Smash Ultimate Tournament - Big D (Dedede) Vs. Locus (Dr. Mario) BoBC3 SSBU Losers Top 12

[@mitigatedrisk4264]

3 to 1 makes this sound much less close than it actually was.

[@cronasan6931]

That tornado man real shame too

[@moonstruck6591]

Lmao, "That Up B can't confirm into the ledge"

[@StretchDub]

Im confused...Why didn't Dedede snap to the ledge in that instance?

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[@JuiceExtraction]

Favorite Commentator Quote in Ultimate so far: “He gave him a taste of his own medicine, literally.”

[@ne7912]

What about the one at 1:16 "This character definitely has the sauce"

[@0utrunner237]

“That Up B to ledge is not always a confirm.” Realest thing I’ve heard about Doc so far 😞

[@MelvinStFleur]

😂😂

[@cyber895]

As a doc main, there were so many times I was hoping he'd throw out an f-smash read or up-b out-of-shield. Still some solid plays, though the Dedede player had good spacing.

[@gabrielnunez8504]

cyber895 the D3 was the best D3 in Smash 4, just a fun fact

[@cyber895]

@Gabe Noose Thanks I appreciate the info. Also feel like I've played him online before because of how good some Dedede players are.

[@23dancerdude]

Gabe Noose girthquake?

[@23dancerdude]

Doc main here as well, and I feel ya on this one, also for me I usually utilize utilt a fair amount and I don’t think Locus used it once, we gotta push this doc meta

[@gabrielnunez8504]

23dancerdude girthquake admitted himself Big D was better than him in smash 4, but girthquake is IMO the most stylish DDD

[@pride6438]

these characters are so much more fun to watch than some top tiers damn

[@knack3381]

Absolutely! Mario/Doc combos are actually insane, and Gordo combos w/ Dedede is some of the most fun stuff in the game

[@inbisibleful]

Cap

[@limepie3801]

I know right? So much more interesting than the 7,000th Lucina/Wolf player

[@grotto185]

@@inbisibleful why do you think it's a cap

[@shadismaili8448]

@@grotto185 he just a sephiroth d-rider

[@gaerbaer1348]

Such a heartbreaker of an ending. Definitely would have wanted to see a game 5 with these two players

[@Erix963]

Yeah but too bad his recovery sucks they really need to buff it

[@PengyDraws]

@@Erix963 Nah, having played against doc I can say that he's sorta like little mac - he dominates on stage so you need to balance him out by making either his advantage or disadvantage terrible, which they did a little bit of.

[@limepie3801]

@@PengyDraws I dunno, for having a much worse recovery, he's also significantly less oppressive than regular Mario. There's a reason many consider him bottom tier while Mario gets high tier.

[@PengyDraws]

@@limepie3801 I didn't know Mario gets high tier, but after seeing locus vs duwang I get what you're saying. However I think if doc gets a recovery buff it shouldn't be too good.

[@JunkoEnoshimadie]

If they buff docs recovery he'd be a legit character

[@afoose]

his recovery really isnt that bad. his upb out of shield is worth the trade off. I would rather have him run faster and increase his air drift. if his pill had a higher velocity/frame data he could zone out swords/disjoints better which is doc's main problem

[@tylerwilson1024]

I thought making Doc more heavy and increasing his power would be a nice pay off

[@sprucetree7996]

Locus could've recovered from a lot of these situation but chooses the wrong option. Last stock he could've recovered high with down b and then jump up b to ledge.

[@afoose]

@@tylerwilson1024 making him more heavy would just make him get comboed easier

[@tylerwilson1024]

@@afoose I figured it'll help with his survivability, making it harder to launch him off stage and harder to kill.

[@enthymeme4856]

DEDEDE THAT'S THE NAME YOU SHOULD KNOW

[@MFM-gv2dp]

DEDEDE HES THE STAR OF THE SHOW

[@Goggleman7]

@@MFM-gv2dp HE'LL HOLLER AND HOOT, HE'LL GIVE KIRBY THE BOOT

[@MFM-gv2dp]

@@Goggleman7 DEDEDE IS THE ONE!

[@_anthrizzle890]

Gross

[@MatildaMcbaggins]

and he also has the best recovery for a heavy and shakes the screen on every attack while simultaneously doing 30% with with one gordo

[@Bryan-ce6bo]

3:24 WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUU JESUS DUDE

[@joeljohnson4073]

Well done Big D, massive fan here!!

[@squiddycheese7399]

That DeDeDe radiates a strong energy.

[@patrickward7412]

He has a big D

[@GamerDan89]

This Dr. Mario was so much more on point. Damn!

[@grambottle033]

Really good commentary on this match!

[@limepie3801]

This was such an awesome set, two really cool characters.

[@hungrybird2196]

I haven’t seen dedede’s down special once... As a dedede main I try an use it more (usually as a last resort)

[@dacrazypenguin7562]

Trust me, U and D smash for DDD is wayyyy better, though u can't use it in the air

[@dacrazypenguin7562]

Plus bairs for DDD is incredibly good

[@Gnarfledarf]

Down B hits below ledge and has a few frames of super armor, so it's a good mixup.

[@fireandworms]

@@dacrazypenguin7562 D smash is pretty weak even when partially charged. Down B doesn't have a sour spot and has armor, and you can reverse it if the opponent rolls from ledge if necessary. You can even jump while charging it to hit in the air. It's not better than U smash, they have different purposes, but it's generally better than D smash.

[@Ejaezy]

The pill to the down b was a nice finish.

[@dr_rl123]

RISE UP DOC MAINS

[@Codruxismdmxjsojfdndsk]

Dr. RL123 yes, we shall rise up!

[@yowhazsuphomes]

3:25 how come dedede did not grab the edge?

[@axelbrum2654]

if you up b and aim down with the left stick it doesn't grab the ledge, you can surprise and kill people with this but only works once per match xd

[@jeffersonian4]

Ah, tragic. Locus looked good, but too many full hop aerials, which usually led to him getting stuffed in the face by D's hammer. Also would've liked to see more upsmashes. haha, I also love how hands down everyone, commentators included, is cheering for Locus. I think Big D's own mother was cheering for Locus lol

[@zerosubscriberswithoutsubs7542]

jeffersonian4 Though, i gotta say, the Doc might be one of the characters with most use for full hop aerials, because of the weird way his Nair works.

[@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia]

No reason not to down-throw > up-smash with Doc at 0.

[@drewsnider7352]

Luigi Linguine I didn't see big d on the ground too often, his neutral was mostly back air Duly noted tho

[@HibernatingBears]

How did that up B @3:26 not grab ledge? It looked like it was sliding against the platform which I thought it meant it's 100% guaranteed to hold onto the ledge?

[@kingdedede5570]

hold down to up b past ledge. it works with every character

[@SaltymanGaming]

I don't know why Locus keeps going for Down Throw to single Up Air at low percents. It's really strict but you can do a fastfall up air into regrab or just go for a tornado. It does more damage and sends opponents pretty far away even at 0%, I usually do up throw tornado and followup with pills.

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Double up air does not combo at low precents

[@Freefork]

14:48 Why I dropped Doc.

[@michleliopold7460]

Oh

[@Freefork]

@@michleliopold7460 Dear.

[@zacedx]

cuz you suck

[@Freefork]

@@zacedx And I'll continue to be bad with I character I don't enjoy. Thank you very much!

[@mastrheartsxiii]

I really like these announcers. Way less annoying or chatty than some

[@Doobie_AdamsSSB]

I just feel like, personally, that if I was good enough to compete with Dr. Mario, I would want to know how good I could be with a better character?! Just me?

[@James-pb8xu]

What's better, a better character, or a better character connection?

[@elcomediante9132]

Dr.Mario has one of the best meteor smash on the game..... Still never used.

[@brothadrknes4760]

“He has no armor” yea no I’ve lost to king dedede because when it hit him coming down from his up special he ate the hit and then just hit me like nothing happened

[@enthymeme4856]

Maybe it lost to his hitbox. Definitely has no armor. A roy juggled the ever living shit outta me when I tried to up b onto stage lol

[@brothadrknes4760]

TeaL he definitely doesn’t, I wrote this comment shortly after a loss I was salty about

[@troncho1385]

BrothaDrknes dedede player here it has armor when he rises

[@Whobilly]

shocked at that ending

[@Polo9794]

Huuuge respect to that Dr. Mario player

[@carrier2823]

Polo9794 have you never heard of locus? He was a god in 4

[@how8955]

The one thing Im not a fan of is how Locus uses down tilt instead of dash, but i dont play in tourneys so what do i know

[@Do_What1]

Did I miss something? When did locus start playing doc

[@sprucetree7996]

Most smash 4 Ryu mains have moved on from Ryu

[@Do_What1]

@@sprucetree7996 I knew he dropped ryu but I had no idea he went to doc. It's kinda random I think

[@sirkfctho]

sexy legs He played Doc in 4

[@PanTF]

This Doc is amazing.

[@carrier2823]

Pan locus has been a huge player since sm4sh. He played ryu and almost always won

[@sethluna2928]

Miss these matchups in pro smash feels like people don’t play these characters at all anymore 😪

[@aintfalco7968]

never seen those doc combos

[@aintfalco7968]

I actually don't hate his recovery. if you down B and then use your midair jump, the end lag is far shorter. down b is also great for off stage kills. my problem with doc is that i have to get in over and over and over again since he only does like 25 damage each time. where as mario has an easier time getting in, and gets more damage when he does.

[@AmarisLazuli]

@@aintfalco7968 doc kills waaaay earlier tho except if you get laddered by mario

[@aintfalco7968]

Yeah i mained him for the first month or two of the game, it still just feels like I usually kill with back throw or back air, which mario also kills with at not as much later as you'd think.

[@aintfalco7968]

oh for sure. Doc's weakest stat is definitely how exploitable and downright slow his recovery is. I was just trying to point out that a lot of people are just using it wrong by burning their jump before the down b.

[@innertuber4049]

He reminds me of Little Mac. A really good character, but his recovery drops his tier.

[@fumpledink3038]

what a cool set man

[@SammyStoneify]

Is there a reason he wasn't caping the gordos?

[@bigarcana5553]

gordo is jank with reflectors

[@1trevor30]

Uh, cause literally any move can reflect gordos, and moves with lasting hitboxes usually are better at reflecting them cause gordos have wonky ass hitboxes.

[@jimmythecaterpillar]

YAY LEZGO BIG D

[@mrl5476]

VICTORY DEDEDEFINITY

[@pandorawolf8239]

DEDEDESTROYED!

[@zeospark9715]

Yeah the Doc has his strengths alright (one of the best B Down moves in the game) but his recovery game is still bottom tier

[@nuibaba280]

That last sequence is fucking bullshit, buff Doctor Mario, that was just plain unfair.

[@firestorm3k882]

I guess you could call Big D; Big Dedede when he plays King Dedede, lol

[@Quake2815]

BUFF UP B

[@michleliopold7460]

No buff down B

[@TheNadroj10]

Buff his recovery man

[@YounesLayachi]

Amazing down smash

[@sir_smilesalot7589]

this set just makes me so mad because locus clearly outplayed Big D (and this is just me being unbiased as I really don't follow either of these players that much) at almost every neutral exchange, and locus just dies because of Doc Recovery. I can't imagine how frustrated he must have felt after that happened to him. Honestly if they just slightly increased the distance his up B sends him and severely reduced the end lag on his down B I feel like he would be a much better character.

[@lucasm4299]

While Doc is on the ledge, King Dedede can be more aggressive by throwing a Gordon and getting an f smash ready. Also, more up smashes. Good game

[@jermainetalaepa8463]

why locus look like michael cera and mclovin combined

[@SilencerXLR8]

The doc did pretty gud... For a guy who barely grabbed, up b'd, naired, spot dodged, or caped offensively

[@notmalcolmm]

*Girthquake wants to know your location*

[@marksaenz3836]

Locus should stay Ryu

[@afoose]

locus plays with his heart and right now his heart is with Doc

[@9Coronas]

big dedede

[@Snowballsage]

Big d more like big d d d that joke is outdated now that he mains ics

[@MetroDerg]

this dedede pissed me off lmao

[@DeathandGrim2]

He used like maybe 2 side tilts and kept using far gordo instead of close. I was getting so mad lol.

[@Quole1234]

do you not know who Big D is? He was the best dedede in brawl and smash 4 and probably the best in ultimate.

[@succccccccccccccccc2328]

He has to play like this if he wants to win stop complaininnngggg

[@limepie3801]

Gordos are the most essential part of Dedede's game plan, he's trash without them.

[@carjis]

Y’all love Big D? Nah fam, miss me.

[@santijavier965]

They are so bad and with no combos at all lol

[@andresugalde916]

Dunno about Doc but Dedede really isn't a combo character

[@santijavier965]

@@andresugalde916 depends if you know how to really use it