VIC-20 Overload - Penultimate Cartridge, Pentagorat, & Planet X1

[@Wyrdwad]

Wow, Pentagorat is ludicrously impressive. And it's one of my favorite genres, too: isometric adventure! Mad props to the people responsible for that -- it couldn't have been easy to program.

[@DaveCurran]

Great video, pleased you liked my Penultimate Cartridge. Let me know if you have any suggestions for future developments or features I can include.

[@WinrichNaujoks]

Where can I get one?

[@kryode3942]

Now I would get one. If I had a Commodore Vic-20

[@fixman88]

I never had a chance to use a Vic-20, since the first computer I used was a Commodore 64 back in 1985, and I didn't get to to own a C64 until 1994. I might try to get a Vic-20 at some point in the future to see what it was like (my cousin had a C64 BBS in the mid 90s and he showed me a Vic-20 cartridge he had but I don't know if he had a Vic-20 or not). Since 'penultimate' means 'next to last' does that mean you're coming out with another one with even more capabilities? I didn't know it was even technically feasible that a single cartridge could be made that could provide memory expansion, a menu system and a bunch of games all at once!

[@DaveCurran]

There were lots of 'Ultimate' and 'Final' cartridges that then got updated, so you have 'Final Cartridge 5' etc. I was honest from the start. I'll keep tweaking and adding more if I can. It's already on revision 5, so that's 4 more than the first 'Penultimate' cartridge already. I could add more carts, but we struggled to come up with another 30 that were good enough.

[@fixman88]

Dave Curran Ok, looking forward to it. I wish I could help you out but my knowledge of the Vic-20 is severely limited; the C64 was my 80s computer...

[@ShaunDreclin]

7:13 that's actually Pauline, not Peach. Also move over wasd, we've got pl;. now!

[@grasstails9737]

wasd, arrows, ijkl, pl;'

[@tdogger73]

Omega Race was my fave on the Vic-20 growing up, too! Glad to see it included here. You are right, stay bouncing between walls in one dimension is the way to play it!

[@heresmyurl]

"how would you land on jupiter anyway? It is a gas giant." That just has me laughing.

[@cecilrichardson2494]

Well, he's not wrong. Gotta give him at least that much.

[@beachcomberfilms8615]

@@cecilrichardson2494 Actually he is wrong, the Jupiter Lander is a reference to the Jupiter Space Ship in Lost In Space

[@cecilrichardson2494]

@@beachcomberfilms8615 Technically, he's wrong, but also right. He's right about the planet Jupiter itself being a gas giant, and the part where he could be considered wrong would be for missing the reference to the Jupiter Lander spaceship from "Lost In Space".

[@batfan1939]

Jupiter actually does have a solid core.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

theory is that there is SOMe rock there, just not as much as the inner rocky planets or poor PLuto...

[@mjptrapster]

Every time someone says "Commodore VIC20" I always say it in my head the odd way Shatner does in the commercial

[@wiktoreriksson4566]

mjprice The Commodore *VIC* 20

[@kami-kun_va]

Unlike games, it has a real computer keyboard .

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

*DA CHOMMODORE VECH TUENI!*

[@cbmeeks]

Love the devotion to the VIC-20. Really underrated computer.

[@КириллБугулов-ч1ы]

In the post-Soviet space, zx-spectrum 48k and its clones were distributed. Simply beautiful 😀

[@jafizzle95]

Both you and Techmoan have some of the best Outro sequences. Very different, but obviously took effort and planning.

[@TechDeals]

Congrats on 500K subs! Awesome!

[@Tretheperson]

500k subs? more like 1.19 M

[@Michael-wj9pk]

@@Tretheperson times do be different doe.

[@scottbreon9448]

Interesting fact about Star Battle... It was coded by former Nintendo president Satoru Iwata. RIP. Iwata was a huge fan of the early Commodore computers (primarily the PET and Vic-20), and his first computer was a PET

[@Bellthorian]

Such wonderful memories these videos invoke. The Atari 800 was my first computer, I love seeing the Wico Stick again. Those were the best joysticks you could buy back in the day bar none.

[@allluckyseven]

The Vic-20 has no sprites? That's actually truly amazing. Considering the games that were made for it. Well, no hardware sprites, that is. EDIT: Oh, man, all that work to make a C64 ending screen and Patreon just changed their logo!

[@herrfriberger5]

8:43 As you already know, there is certainly no need for any "sprites" to get smooth or fluid motion, only a decently fast CPU with direct access to video RAM. (As far as I know, many archade machines of the time had no "sprite" hardware either.) Color collisions due to character based graphics is another matter.

[@EricAtRandom]

Another quick comment: I spent HOURS playing Shamus on the Atari 400. It was more like Montezuma's Revenge than like Robotron. It had goals and potions and stuff along with various maze-like levels (I believe there was even an accessible map). I'd suggest digging up some instructions and giving it a go. It was quite fun, and I haven't seen it in decades!

[@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408]

The worst that I remember about the Vic-20 was those damn expander cartridges. Some games required EXACTLY the 8K cartridge, so if you only had the 16K then you couldn't use it. The 16K was actually quite useless, I didn't have a single game that needed it. The 8K would have been very nice to have, I had a bunch of games I could never play that needed it.

[@justme002]

That joystick was the one we all fought over when I was a kid with our 8-bit Atari systems. My mom claimed it as her's, but I often snuck playing on it myself. One of the best joysticks I've ever used.

[@bredmond812]

This episode was almost like an AVGN episode, that is, after the Nerd took something to help him relax.

[@Crazy-qi1gw]

That is exactly what I thought when I watched this. I mean, with 40 games, it's almost like the Action 52 episode.

[@kuzadupa185]

Alot of somethings

[@ajddavid452]

He's the After Therapy Commodore Nerd

[@kwc0435]

@@basilflute I'm pretty sure they have actually met before too😳

[@ajddavid452]

@@RockProductionsYT Don't forgot the Roll N Rocker so he could drink Rolling Rock on the Roll N Rocker

[@optimumamoeba3308]

Great video, the Vic was my first computer too. I was the envy of my friends here in the U.K. as they all had Sinclair ZX-81's. The Jeff Minter game at 11:21 is definitely Grid Runner, it was the first "proper game" I had for my Vic-20.

[@tonybrice7942]

Actually, it's Matrix. The sequel to Gridrunner. It needed 8k memory to run it whereas Gridrunner was unexpanded. I think the game was called AMC in the US, hence the confusion.

[@AndersEngerJensen]

Ah.. the Vic20. Was envious of my two friends who had one each back in the mid 80s. We played some of the games on that cartridge, most with some errors loading since they only had tape decks with poorly copied tapes. ^_^ Cool credits screen... appropriate to use the Vic20 for this here. :D

[@kryode3942]

It's something isn't it?

[@Chaos89P]

Still defaulted to the C64 for the last two lines, though.

[@CarsandCats]

My VIC-20 with a tape drive and a 300 baud modem was the first thing I ever got online with. I switched to an Atari 800XL with a 1200 baud modem a few months last, what a difference. Still, the VIC-20 was special and BBS's were new and exciting.

[@catfishkempster]

This was my first computer, also and I loved it, despite being originally disappointed that I didn't get an Atari computer. Omega Race was one my favourite games on my Vic 20 (also having got it and the Vic 20 at the same time). Indeed, the original arcade game was a vector graphics based game.

[@mmoore385]

Thank you for your videos. I spent my youth with the entire gauntlet of Commodore Computers starting with the VIC-20, then the 64, the 128, (even side stepping and stumbling with the Plus 4, the Commodore 16, and the 128D) before I made the leap into the PC realm. Your videos take me back to a simpler time...Thank You Again

[@reznov885]

Does anyone else hear the 18000 hz sound coming from this video at points

[@acedude112]

Yeah, usually when the camera is further back and he's talking behind the desk. @ 1:10 for example.

[@drakebeber9579]

reznov885 Thank god you two heard it too! I thought I was going crazy!

[@Request_2_PANic]

CRT displays made a high pitch sound when active, so that may be it, such as the TV that's next to him when it's heard.

[@KimberKat]

It's caused by the TV. CRTs often produce that tone, though it's typically most notable on startup.

[@Dazlidorne]

He does that to keep annoying kids from watching his videos as they are the only ones that can hear high frequencies. j/k

[@be236]

I've got a Commodore VIC-20, need to take it out and play with it when I have some free time... ah... the good old times when I got this as a kid... so fun to learn BASIC.

[@hangemhighhilton]

"Ok well I'm not gonna make you sit here for the entire thing, so let's skip ahead." "NOOOOOOO!"

[@JGreen-le8xx]

Very cool expander cartridge. I had a VIC20 as my first pc and also a Wico Command joystick just like yours. Was great to see you give the little computer that could some love. Great episode.

[@ej_tech]

For those who hear the very high frequency noise, I used my Realtek HD audio manager and dropped the 16 khz part of the EQ to negative.

[@HashanGayasri]

Nearly gave me a headache.

[@doorwhisperer]

This is how I cured my Tinnitus

[@zachreddy]

Woo, Commodore stuff! This is awesome! I started with a C64 when I was a kid, but I had some friends with an old Vic 20 and a bunch of cartridge games. It's great seeing what the little beige Pre-64 was capable of.

[@ubuntuforever]

Great video as always. It would be nice to see a complete version of Planet X1, but I know you are very limited on time, so I totally understand. Very impressive graphics for a VIC-20.

[@The8BitGuy]

On the bright side... I'm remaking the game for the Commodore 64, only I'm calling it Planet X2.

[@brandonhakki5665]

why up load so late in the night

[@tmotom]

Planet X1... WITH TWO PLANETS!

[@kryode3942]

The 8-Bit Guy So that's why I saw Planet X2 in that SD Card!

[@Altronic-]

The 8-Bit Guy where on your website is planet x1 (I’m looking for it on my phone)

[@shawnlajambe4206]

Omg, you just brought back so many hundreds of hours memories. Thank you!

[@deividhere]

Aaaaahhhh, my ears :c That high frequency sound when you talk over the turned on CRT TV xD Cool video, by the way

[@BOYTLeRoyJenkins]

Holy childhood flashbacks!!! Especially Choplifter. I remember playing that game for HOURS if not DAYS on end.

[@Bro3256Films]

7:12 That's Pauline not Peach :L

[@Bro3256Films]

True, but thats Paulines Modern Design, Pauline had a pink Dress in the original Arcade version of Donkey Kong, so no this isn't peach

[@Connie_TinuityError]

+BroFilms I got VERY offended when he said that. Like he isn't even close to being right!

[@AntiChangeling]

Interestingly enough it looks exactly like Peach in this version, with the blonde hair and big dress, unlike the original Arcade version.

[@Bro3256Films]

AntiChangeling what it boils down to is what's official and that's Pauline, I think even the NES manual mentions its Pauline

[@IllidanS4]

He said the characters weren't called like that back then.

[@rwebbsgt]

the C64 was the very first computer that I ever used way back in the early 80's and "Rat Race" was the game that I played on it, the computer belonged to my uncle so I had limited access to it, I really miss those days.

[@sarsattacks]

When you take into account of inflation, these systems were so freaking expensive

[@classicvideogamers925]

Just got the Penultimate Cartridge from the UK today. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for showing us a review of it. I probably wouldn't have known about it without seeing your video!

[@Iliek]

Ah, back in the days where loading screens had loading screens.

[@MikesTek]

wow, that really shows what my old vic was capable of. I would have freaked out at either game when I was a kid. From what i can see the ram expanded is well worth the price of the cartridge, and the games are just a bonus. Thank you for reviewing this.

[@robinsonkyn]

Wow, that took me back! My favorite games were always the Scott Addams games. I would use lots of taped together typewriter paper and use an electrical outlet cover to draw perfectly shaped rooms and then label where each direction lead. Just used a pencil to trace the outlet hole for each room to keep me from drawing them too quickly and eventually too large requiring more of my Mother's typewriter paper lol. I also agree that some game programmers are either lackadaisical or too rushed by the companies in which they work wanting to get something out for Christmas. Prime example would be the Atari 2600's PacMan vs. Ms. PacMan. I learned to program on my Vic20 and just fell in love with computers in general. I owned the Vic20, the Plus4, the 64/128 combo Commadore and a couple of Amigas throughout the years. Love your videos, I'll be a subscriber.

[@davidboling3245]

Ah, my first computer, Vic20. Brings back memories. Couldn't afford an Apple II, or even other game system back then. The only way I got the Vic20 is I told my Dad, who never spent more than $25 on my christmas present, that I wanted the Vic20, or nothing. I said it would be a great learning tool, which it was. Spent many hours learning to program, and all it's capabilties, even hooking up a modem and connecting to the Compuserve service, which was unbelievably expensive, and didn't accomplish much, in any case. Ha! Thanks for the video, Greatly enjoyed!

[@Myyraman]

I’m bummed they didn’t add Pitfall.

[@iwanttocomplain]

The damsel in distress from Donkey Kong is named Pauline, which is my also my mum's name. I was given a Vic20 with about 15 games on cartridge (aged 5-6) which were nearly all text adventures, also Radar Rat Race which was decent. I didn't take it seriously because I wanted a Spectrum but then I got one and it broke after playing Jet Pak once and programming it to repeat a word. But then I got a Master System and everything was ok. I enjoyed the video on this channel restoring the Vic20 from what could have been a car repair shop. I like how these machines were so robust and practical for actual real life businesses. I doubt any businesses used Spectrums.

[@OtakuWeebster]

*guns and screaming* = i sleep *8 bit guy posted a video* = i woke

[@ThePCKid11]

OtakuWeebster! *20 minutes long* = a s c e n d e d

[@kryode3942]

*Features my music* = life goal achieved

[@danangelosabas2610]

REAL SHIT???

[@kryode3942]

If you're talking about me then yeah, check the end of the video.

[@rumeru905]

real shit?

[@buncho888]

If you haven't played Serpentine on cartridge you're missing out on one of the best Vic 20 games. Superb gameplay, very slick to play.

[@Breakbeats92.5]

It never ceases to amaze me just how much gaming has evolved in my lifetime.

[@mattmaddux]

The Omega Race arcade IS vector based and it’s GORGEOUS! I only just saw it for the first time last year at my local arcade where they’ve got a cocktail version of it (shoutout to 1984 Arcade in Springfield, MO!). It’s honestly become my favorite arcade game. The motion is smooth and I just love the way well made vector graphics look.

[@JemMawson]

The prices in 1980 and what the equivalent cost is in 2017: * $2000 ~ $6,295 * $440 ~ $1,385 * $399 ~ $1,256 * $299 ~ $941 All of these machines are incredibly more expensive than a modern console. We had it tough!

[@peterlamont647]

Ya, but COL was much lower. People had way more disposable income back then.

[@billant2]

True, in the booming 80's :)

[@ZappoB]

Red flashing "THIS NEVER HAPPENS!" - nice reminiscence to a very nice BBC series. I love it! :D (the sound of this scene came directly to my mind)

[@skye5637]

cool video 8 bit guy

[@skye5637]

Lolz

[@cbrstar7145]

The VIC20 was also my first computer. My Father bought it at a garage sale to shut me up wanting a new computer. This was the late 80's so there was already 386 computers and NES's out there. My Vic 20 had the cassette tape drive, and it felt like it took at least 30 mins just to load up Pong! When I eventually found some cartridge games for the VIC20 that loaded instantly and had better graphics it felt like a god send. But at least the VIC20 did teach me basic computing.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

I was born in 2000, so I wasn't around for this era, but I have a certain fondness for the VIC-20. I think it's cool. I also really like its younger and much more powerful brother, the C64.

[@almostliterally593]

TheBcoolGuy i was born in 1995. My favorite classic system is the Atari 7800. Im glad to see other young people into this stuff

[@scottbreon9448]

I also like the C64's younger and more powerful brother, The Amiga 500

[@daveonvr2192]

Thanks - brought back some great memories. Seeing that Pentagorat tape remained me when I attempted to convert the Sinclair Spectrum game, Atic Atac, on my Vic-20. I think I mapped all the graphics pretty accurately, even get the loader working but got stumped at the actual gameplay (a minor issue...lol). My other attempt was building an assembler as machine-code was the only way to build performant software and was a pain to convert into all the ASCII codes. Yep - never finished that either...but my career in IT started then I've done pretty well out of it. Back to the Penulimate Cartridge, it reminded me quite how much time I spent on Radar Rat Race - I was stupidly good at it and knew all the routes to go for maximum score. Wonderful :-)

[@thedisastrousduo8649]

I'm just saying, YOU HAVE 500K SUBS!!!!

[@chainreaction8977]

Two years later, close to one million. Damn there's a lot of us nostalgic nerds...

[@torchiest]

Very cool! The Vic-20 was also my first computer, and I cut my teeth programming on it, so it holds a special place in my heart. Looking forward to your full-blown comprehensive video on it.

[@burningflurber]

oof that crt whine!

[@dcfuksurmom]

usually caused by an issue with the high voltage supply, it isn't supposed to be that intense

[@dcfuksurmom]

@Asami Kato a small amount of wine is normal, and can typically be ignored, if its excessive there is something wrong

[@video99couk]

Great selection of games there, most I've never seen. The VIC-20 I bought in 1981 still works. I did blow up a 6522 once but that was my fault. What a robust machine, much better than most of the competition at the time. The floppy drives however were much less reliable, but I have a working one of those too. The Plus/4 machines I owned later were more troublesome.

[@ProfessorYana]

3:35 - "THIS NEVER HAPPENS" Is that an H2G2 reference I spy?

[@robertmay7700]

I bought a 16 meg. memory cartridge and the i/p a word processing program from an electronics magazine. It took me and my kids most of a weekend. We all took shifts inputting the machine language code 8 hex-decimal bits per line w. a checksum @ the end. It worked and the most important thing I learned from it was it was absolutely necessary to have an 80 character wide screen! My next computer was a Commodore B128 bought on sale and including a monitor, a double disk drive, a printer and five software programs including a word-processor, a spread-sheet, a data-base & others that I don't recall just now. That computer could connect to an Olympia Electronic Typwriter to produce high quality o/p. I would be interested in seeing a discussion of the Commodore B128 computer in future.

[@Fiddlesticks86]

5:22 "This virgin" 😂 Love your videos though ✌😇

[@stevesloan7132]

Yes. Omega Race was a vector graphics game in the arcades. I dropped a lot of quarters into that one. Loved it.

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

The man even programs retrogames, this guy is real, unlike manchildren on youtube complaining about everything with a wall of games in the background never to be played.

[@KentuckyRanger]

@ 11:38 O,M,G! The Vic-20 was my first computer, and Omega Race was the first game I had on it! I went to school to study computer repair, and the C-64 was the computer choice they had. Love going down memory lane with your videos!

[@joseraphaelmartinez1280]

Anyone else who hears a high-pitched sound whenever the vic 20 is running?

[@dcfuksurmom]

its coming from the tv, old tv sets are notorious for doing that but its usually not that intense.

[@DanTDMJace]

It's the TV he's using

[@nightbladeRFD]

Nice to see Omega Race mentioned, my first cartridge for the Vic 20 as well 8-Bit Guy, and Choplifter for the C64.. Damn I'm getting old, these games are ancient.

[@fuyingbro]

Jupiter Lander you have 3 controls if I remember correctly you have left and right thrusters and the vertical thrust is I believe controlled by the f keys since it had soft thrust and hard thrust. It was a hard game but freaking fun.

[@MaxQuagliotto]

I remember this game like it was yesterday. You had to give enough thrust to get the thrust-meter stop in the small yellow region to get bonus points when you landed.

[@BuckeyeStormsProductions]

Yeah, the game was really fun. I saw that and waves of nostalgia flooded over me. I wish he had spent a little more time on it.

[@CanuckGod]

On an entirely different note, as David pointed out, you can't land on 'land' on Jupiter, though the closest you could come to that would be landing in the metallic hydrogen ocean further down, though how dense it is I wouldn't know, so I'm not sure whether your spacecraft-lander-thingamajig would sink or float in it, though it might get ripped apart in the extremely windy atmosphere long before that point...

[@peterlamont647]

It didn't have an apple touch screen, so he couldn't figure it out...

[@peterbustin8604]

I was 16 when I got a 2nd hand Vic 20 for xmas, togethers wi th a cartridge called 'Ghost' with additional BASIC commands, like renumber, very useful but unstable. Those were back in 1984. Those were the days !

[@ultraviper1884]

16:51 OHGOD what is that squealing?!

[@dcfuksurmom]

its coming from the tv, old tvs are bad about that but its usually not that intense, likely the high voltage is a bit off.

[@tomharrison9280]

@@dcfuksurmom it's actually since it tends to be very loud on camera, in another video he mentions that he normally removes it but can't actually hear it anymore because of his age

[@patrickphelps3011]

My dad bought us a Vic 20 and a 64 back in the 80’s. He made a cartridge box with switches so if we wanted to play a game we’d just have to flip the switch and the game would load. At school we had a n Apple II and really wanted one of those but your videos have shown me how awesome the Commodore computer actually was. He had gotten a summer olympics game. Played the heck out that. It used to play the National Anthem when you won the gold. Awesome sounds and graphics.

[@donvito1973]

I was a C64 owner and always thought the Vic20 was vastly inferior.. Just the 22 column text on bootup put me off. But these games really show off the power of the CPU. Any chance of a teardown of the penultimate cartridge? It'd be nice to see inside.. especially alongside a super-expander cartridge.

[@DaveCurran]

There are photos inside the production version here: www.thefuturewas8bit.com/shop/commodore/pu-vic20.html, and photos and more info on the development versions on my blog: blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/search?q=penultimate

[@donvito1973]

Thanks mate.. I'll probably have to spend the evening reading your blog now :-).. Nice PCB. I like the mixture of retro and contemporary with GAL and microcontroller, through-hole and SMD.

[@SpearM3064]

It *was* inferior, compared to the Commodore 64. That's why it never really achieved any success outside the games and hobbyist market segments. On the other hand, it actually ran somewhat faster (by about 20%, actually), which is one of the reasons that software sprites, such as those used in the official Donkey Kong port, were so viable.

[@lwvmobile]

Well, the Vic20 came out several years BEFORE the C64, so what would you expect. Even if they overlapped on the store shelves, the C64 was designed to be a superior unit to the Vic20. Its just too bad though that they didn't find a way to put a 6502 chip in the C64 for backwards compatibility of sorts. Perhaps it would have been impossible, or just driven the costs up too much to do so.

[@btipton]

Great episode! Vic20 was my first machine, too. I had Rat Race, Jupiter Lander, and Gorf in my collection.

[@acertainshape]

Love your videos. Are you aware the Pat the NES Punk did a segment on your video game labels on his podcast? He and Ian did not approve.

[@konversion]

acertainshape yeah, that was the first time I had to thumbs down one of their videos. they seemed to be looking for a scapegoat.

[@acertainshape]

I think David had every right to do that, but they compared it to vintage comic books, where if a cover is replaced the value is lost. I think that is a bad analogy and a bit too precious about basically worthless (relatively speaking) pieces of plastic. David did not make labels for a rare Earthbound prototype cart. I guess Pat and Ian's point was that the video encouraged forgery. I was not convinced.

[@thecaptain2281]

To be fair, Pat is a bit of a copyright/patent hardcoreist. He doesn't see fair-use the way he's really suppose to. Nothing Dave did in that video was unlawful in any way.

[@konversion]

acertainshape oh, he absolutely does. it's HIS property and he wants it to look nice in HIS collection. I understand Pat's and Ian's opinions regarding counterfitting but, if someone is gonna be a piece of trash, they would have learned restoring without the help of David.

[@Geraki0n]

I primarily disagreed with Pat and Ian on that one, but I do specifically recall them saying "do whatever you want with your own stuff". They're just concerned as collectors and retailers that it's going to propagate forgeries and make the hobby that much harder.

[@cacheman]

14:35 Shamus is one of those games I remember from my childhood, playing it on the C64. It wasn't a smash hit or anything, but I've never forgotten it completely.

[@Chordonblue]

Shamus I and II were stunning on the Atari 8-bit. Definitely one of my favorites.

[@jrk1]

yayy 1080p upload! Wonder did you get a new computer?

[@elliott.a9787]

Jarukrit Sripaploen Me: looks through videos Also Me: crap, I need to buy a new computer 1080p is the new thing! New camera? Nah, I need a NEW COMPUTER not monitor or camera

[@peterlamont647]

LOL I see what you did there.....

[@dj_paultuk7052]

Wow, i remembered alot of those games. The VIC-20 was also my very first computer when i was 10. It was a big hit in the UK. Everyone at school had one !.

[@jippalippa]

Hello; a question for david and the rest of the community. What program would a standard office worker use at around 1986, on a commodore 64 computer, for word processing and basic accounting? I'll explain it better: I have a commodore 64 with a cassette drive and an authentic vhs camera from the day and I'm planning on shooting an emulation of what a typing experience on a commodore 64 would have been. That said i need a cheap program that can be found on cassette on ebay. I'd love to use floppies but a C64 floppy drive costs quite a lot, and i can't afford to spend much money on this project. I still need a display, though; is there a fairly cheap model which is also easy to find? Thanks you all.

[@georgemaragos2378]

Hi not sure account pure double entry accounting, but there was a spreadsheet called unicalc I was able to use unicalc at my job keeping track of a weeks production in a electrical factory of about 200 different stock items, just load each file for week ending For word processing, its hard but there are text editors like easy script or easy write The there was say in cartrige form magic deck Otherwise you run the geos desktop and use the apps For database you had superbase While not quite off topic , the Amiga was much better for business apps PS i had about 5 years worth of payslips and overtime on a unicalc spread sheet regards george

[@jippalippa]

Thanks George. Any suggestion on a monitor (from the 80s) which is FAIRLY cheap and easy to find? On ebay or used shops. Thanks.

[@mvl71]

For a C64? You'll be wanting the Commodore 1702. Virtually indestructible and it matches the bread bin perfectly. Very good picture too. Prices range from a buck and a half to over $150 but they all do the same thing so go for the cheapest working one.

[@EngineeringVignettes]

Oddly enough, I am pretty sure Omega Race was the first cartridge game I got for my VIC20. The majority of software was on cassette tape and that took some patience and understanding to work.. not something a young teenager (myself) would have. Really strong memories here. Thanks for the nostalgia. - Eddy

[@spugintrntl]

"In this episode-" *EAR PIERCING WHINE*

[@superangrybrit]

Vic20 series is prolly my favourite. Good stuff. I hada C64 and a Datasette when I was younger.

[@Calthecool]

9:20 Get recked haters.

[@Dazlidorne]

The way to experience Batlezone was in the arcades! It had a sight that you put your head against and two joysticks that you could make your tank go left and right, forward and reverse. It was almost like a military combat simulator at the time. I dropped a huge amount of quarters on this game back in the 80's!

[@pj2yyy2]

Isn't the girl in Donkey Kong Pauline, and not Princess Toadstool (Peach)?

[@tbb033]

Yes. Apparently she's mayor of the town in the upcoming Mario game on Switch.

[@JohnStrikwerda]

This computer started my life in tech. I have so much nostalgia over this computer.

[@vicr123]

"because it was the first computer I owned." Did you have a Speak and Spell when you were 6? :P

[@ChaseMC215]

The speak and spell isn't really a computer despite having a texus instraments chip in it

[@vicr123]

@@ChaseMC215 Not saying I dispute your claim or anything, but David made a video on why he considers the Speak and Spell to be a computer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKHIlpqAZa9oo6c

[@MoonFox_5989]

If I may say so David, I agree with you on Radar Rat Race being a Ton of Fun. Many an afternoon was spent playing that gem, the only cartridge my family ever owned on the C64. Ahh the memories...

[@TheRaven078]

Great video 8 bit guy. I've never gotten to see games for the VIC-20 so it was nice to know what all the system had. Also the Pentogorat looks good for the system capabilities. The color scheme on it reminds me what some of the Sinclair ZX games look like in other videos I've watched. Thank you.

[@Samuel-ge7im]

Great job 8-Bit Guy, cannot wait for the Vic-20 Review!

[@peterlamont647]

Ya, where he doesn't read the manual and says it doesn't grab his attention/he can't use it 20 times.

[@CommodoreFan64]

I love the VIC20 as it was the first computer in my house unless you count the Intellivision as my dad got it for my older sister, but even at around 3 years old I gravitated to it more then she did, and I can clearly remember playing Tooth Invaders on it, along with PacMan as my father was a big Pacman fan back in the day. :-)

[@blink4252]

Last video with the cassette 8-Bit Guy intro

[@robertmaxa6631]

My brother in-law has a TurboGrafx-16, complete with the original displayer stand. His daughter was kicking his butt, at "Bomberman", at age 5. I bought "Omega race", for my VIC 20, also.

[@Evan420]

Very cool that people are making modern day cartridges for vintage computers!

[@apigeon4192]

These old computers were before my time, so I love watching videos like these. I don't know if I'll ever play any of these games, but seeing how they work and how they compare to other computers is very interesting. Great vid, keep up the good work!

[@RichardServello]

Planet X1 is damn impressive! Nicely done sir!

[@Hiraghm]

Shamus on the Vic-20 was my dad's absolute favorite. No other version, either. Just the vic-20

[@WinrichNaujoks]

It's an awesome game. Technically so well made. I was surprised to hear 8 bit guy didn't know it!

[@fabronfretwell3257]

That was a hard game, I never finished it, but I loved omega race and star trek.

[@MarkTheMorose]

Your first pronunciation of Minter was correct. For some reason, Gridrunner was renamed Attack of the Mutant Camels for the US market, when released by HES (Human Engineered Software) for the VIC,

[@peterlamont647]

Minter? The obvious pronunciation...nah! MYN-TER! That must be it

[@FriedOrange]

Attack of the Mutant Camels was actually the sequel to Gridrunner and both were released by HES in the USA.

[@BoingotheClown]

Yes. Omega Race was originally a vector screen game. Vic Avenger and Omega Race were the two games we used to play in the Vic 20.

[@markpenrice6253]

Oh, and, nice work on Planet X1 there. Looks surprisingly colourful and detailed even though when you step back and think for a moment it's just plain text mode. Interesting and ambitious play style for such an old system too.

[@Roadstar1602]

I used to play Radar Rat Race on the C64 and would have completely forgotten it ever existed if not for your video.

[@vsavoldi]

My Fav video so far just for nostalgia, I had cart plus the super expander, so many hours playing every game you mentioned :)

[@fen4554]

9:35 As a Apple II owner, I couldn't tell you if it was a worthwhile port without hearing the digging sound. The sound design was excellent in our version of Load Runner. The sound of an enemy being consumed by refilling ground has be etched into my brain since I was 5.

[@AtariForeva]

Pentagorat looks like an improved ZX Spectrum game.