The Horrors of Being a Facebook Moderator | Informer

[@VICE]

Watch more from this series: The Dark Side of Being a Food Delivery Person - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKrFg2Ront1rpsk

[@localratriley4759]

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[@f.b.i2132]

ok

[@ilovexu]

ZAMN

[@SilverMusicAndGaming]

Next on Vice: The Tragedy of Having a Job. Like where tf are you supposed to work then. Just at vice?

[@stacy3]

ok

[@akumu2225]

Becoming a social media moderator is basically losing your faith in humanity just to protect people’s innocence.

[@victoriabryant3078]

Wow. Exactly

[@brandonduffy3497]

That definition really fits.

[@BFNLEO]

You’re right but sadly it’s a lost cause. They are destroying themselves not realizing innocence can’t be protected forever. Honestly though by censoring these things they are just letting people live a lie. Maybe being confronted with some of the atrocities going on out there people might wake the hell up and realize we all need to change and take care of each other instead of being mindlessly distracted all day wasting precious time.

[@daddyjonesco1378]

Hmm, sounds like a police officer’s life as well…

[@LauraLancealot]

@@daddyjonesco1378 LOL surely you're not referring to American police

[@clarence9593]

This is the single most terrifying way I’ve ever seen anybody stay anonymous

[@jasonbraun127]

Just so you know, this isn't his fault. The masks are a part of the "Informer"-series.

[@clarence9593]

@@jasonbraun127 I was not aware of this, just a victim of the algorithm 🙏🙏

[@TheRok]

Whether they use the same masks for other Informer episodes or not, it is almost the perfect mask for this specific episode, especially with the haunting melody in the background. I can't think of a much better way of understanding the gravity of, not just what this ex-moderator is describing in terms of his experiences, but also the gravity of what our world has become ... the kind of world that needs a small army of moderators to moderate traumatizing content on a social network like Facebook.

[@bbyjscx]

😅

[@LinkEX]

@@TheRok "Social network" seems like a euphemism at this point. The shape of our social media we have right now is poison for our psychological health. The frictionless and quick spreading of any content means that any strong emotional outburst will seep into the network, and if it creates an equally strong emotionally response spread like wildfire.

[@markdotinc8371]

Unfortunately the job isn't to protect people. It's to protect Facebook.

[@Mobay18]

The problem is that you need to have moderators, who can handle this kind of stuff. They should profile them better before they hire them and prepare, educate and debrief them. Offer psychological help to give them tools to handle this type of job, the same way homicide detectives have.

[@bobbyb3543]

Well said

[@memezoffuckery3207]

“Dangerous freedom is more preferable then peaceful slavery” There will always be bad people on the internet, you’re an Orwellianist if you advocate for private invasion.

[@bruhmin3thememe111]

@@memezoffuckery3207 Yet the government fits exactly well into your "George Orwell" depiction.

[@markdotinc8371]

@@memezoffuckery3207 that's not Orwellian

[@krazykittykat759]

Content moderators are the jobs that everyone doesn't want to do, but the world needs. Mad respect to all the moderators out there.

[@Mster_J]

I’d like to try it. I’ve seen some of the worst gore videos out there which include adults, children, and even animals such as dogs and cats being butchered and tortured in the worst ways possible, and they’ve never phased me. But I can understand how others can be affected by such things

[@krazykittykat759]

@@Mster_J I've also been exposed to content like that too, good luck if you ever get a content moderation job.

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

social media itself causes PTSD. It's toxic nonsense and a huge distraction. Gen Z and every generation after is a lost cause.Get rid of social media, what happened to the good old days where you actually go out and talk to people face to face. This virtual digital world has ruined society. Metaverse and whatever this AI, VR crap is, will only make things worse.

[@katapapp8957]

To be honest, this job NEEDS to do by some kind of AI. I understand that AI can be dangerous (for example in the film industry ect.) but this job NEED to be done by AI in the future.

[@elizabethferguson7002]

​@@Mster_Jdoesn't phase you? That speaks volumes as to the condition of your heart and soul. So sad!!!

[@geoseason5800]

I can't even imagine being a person who sees all the darkest sides of humanity every single day!!! My respect to these moderators for having such a stable psyche...

[@Vacu1m]

ik bro

[@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech]

Imagine living in it, American prisons force you live among the darkest people in society. They put you in the worst environment, you come back traumatized and they ensure you have a criminal record. No wonder the majority of convicts reoffend. Like does it make sense to lock up a non-violent offender for selling weed so he can live among rapists, murderers, robbers, serial killers, etc? I've met tons of kids who went in on something petty like this and came out harden criminals.

[@plontest]

bro are u 30 yrs old

[@elbob17]

No respect for anyone at Facebook. If you haven't noticed, they're the bad guys.

[@johannesvalentino1650]

@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech but for my perspective, it is better in USA Prison than my country. They're the worst of the worst in SEA region. Especially Thailand and Indonesia.

[@Random_entity34]

"We stay dirty so that the world can stay clean." It has different meaning here but it still applies.

[@wladynoszhighlights5989]

I don´t think he is "dirty", he isn´t doing anything bad, he just filters dirty things.

[@emperoremyhriv4968]

Stay clean ? You people are so naive . No one is innocent at all in this life.

[@annihilator5494]

@@emperoremyhriv4968 True but some are dirtier then others.

[@emperoremyhriv4968]

@@annihilator5494 I agree

[@stepgames7698]

"That's the mission..."

[@majorkramer]

He has an excellent vocabulary for explaining his experiences.

[@aben7810]

very well spoken indeed

[@aldrinmercado3475]

Well this show normally use a different person to hide the speaker background so he may actually be Caucasian for all we know. Plus speaking habits and vocabulary will be changed as well. They may have altered what he actually said for security purposes

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

He will be identified by that

[@infinity1726]

South Asian, most likely Indian (skin tone of hands & legs). Indians are generally well educated in English, especially if they are those who manage to reach the US & work for Facebook. Ofcourse he could also be the son of an indian family who left india for US.

[@tlomofficial]

I was thinking they hire someone to read a transcript of what the actual person said in the interview, and this person we see on screen is just for the benefit of the casual viewer

[@caitie1478]

My cousin is a KZbin moderator. She has some crazy stories and she’s completely desensitized to gore, violence, SA and so much more. She’s told me just the tip of the ice burg of the things she’s seen and just listening to that made me feel sick. She finally had to quit a couple years ago because she saw something so horrible, she described it as the most torturous and gruesome things she’s seen. She’s been in therapy and she’s doing better.

[@Julie-cy2bs]

How did she become a moderator

[@nineplustentwentyone26]

That is so scary and I wish her all the best. I hope that she is able to heal and become stronger despite all the horrors she witnessed

[@dequasont1063]

if she got desensitized to all that stuff but got traumatized by one video I cant even imagine what it was

[@biancaenera2500]

Why should you be desensitized (psycological apathy)? In case she is not a good moderator, she better do something else.

[@Twitch_Moderator]

There is no such thing as desensitized to traumatic events. Your brain shuts down certain perceptions, reactions and function to allow you to cope without shock. It is disturbing.

[@fielynn7393]

Even as a regular person who's surfing on the internet, I seen dozens of terrifying pictures and videos and just the idea that I would have to watch them for 8 hours a day, every day. Is just...

[@entropino9928]

So you get to watch it without needing to go on some sort of chase to find it. Pretty cool

[@turkelafandiyev]

That's not how it works. Most of those 8 hours you receive reports from reps and dems reporting each other for nothing.

[@gustav275]

most of the images arent horrible lol

[@Donnie-ys7vr]

@@gustav275 oh kudos you then for not finding it horrible. Do you want a pat?

[@quandale0074]

@@gustav275 until that falls on you

[@longDFellow]

it's extremely sad that he has to protect his identity over this. Facebook is a disgusting company.

[@claudiug2232]

Zucky would like to know ur adress ;)

[@arunkurian9367]

And yet idiots use his platform

[@claudiug2232]

@@arunkurian9367 Please,teach us some wisdom...

[@lordyoav7836]

@@claudiug2232 ok

[@thedragonofthewest5789]

@@claudiug2232 he already knows his adress ;)

[@sashaspano588]

Mark Zuckerberg should spend a day as a Facebook moderator and see how he feels about his previous statements downplaying the trauma that these moderators experience.

[@FrenchFriesStephanny]

Second this.

[@evo2542]

He would have to spend longer than a day doing this kind of thing. Seemed every few weeks something crazy would come up, and over time it just grew more overwhealming.

[@JenBabyJen]

At this point that robot wouldn’t feel a thing

[@wellnotme9354]

@serbian nationalist Oh yeah, I'd love to get paid to see people barbecue dogs alive, and people getting their heads cut off. It seems fair to work at a dead-end job where I see horrors that haunt my dreams; Every. Single. Fucking. Day. Meanwhile some creep who made a platform made off of profiting on people's information denies my claims of being traumatized.

[@mikechansw748]

@@wellnotme9354 That reptillian’s gonna reptillian

[@TheMarkoPoloProgram]

As someone who has purposefully stumbled upon snuff videos, suicide videos and death videos, I can understand this guy’s frustrations. It really is traumatizing stuff and once you see it, you can’t unsee it. It sticks with you. You start questioning reality, whether there is a life after death, if hell is on Earth. I can’t imagine having to do this for 40 hours a week.

[@ghionbezie]

Sad world man

[@S_o__S_i_c_k]

Purposefully stumbled? How does that work

[@Mrstormy_9]

@@S_o__S_i_c_khe was probably curious

[@Jim26D]

I've maybe watched 3 extreme videos and I wish I never watched them. I'm an older military guy and it's just not right

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

@@S_o__S_i_c_k if you, like me, an HR pro, the hell-hole of human life and interest can take you to despicable things, especially during background check

[@s.mcqueen8149]

I always thought Facebook automatically flagged inappropriate videos. This is very disturbing.

[@liak.6778]

I don't think any of the social media platforms automatically flag inappropriate content. It is either labeled that way by the creator at the time of publishing or it gets reported as inappropriate, explicit, etc.

[@hampstar]

@@liak.6778 i dono man i upload a gucci bag or anything with a brand and its almost instantly flagged even if i dont type the word

[@JangoBango18]

They do, but the algorithms don't always catch everything.

[@Tcake88]

so is the guy in the interview the guy posting all these inappropriate videos?

[@yutudelickzolonskyyballs7146]

Eveb YT cant delete all my comment , lel

[@lexichanel1]

Just him saying “barbecuing dogs alive” is a sentence that will be burned into my brain forever… I can’t imagine actually seeing it.

[@JohnSmith-dg3rd]

And thats not even worst you can see.

[@zaklaj]

@@JohnSmith-dg3rd dynamite on boy...

[@havilavi472]

@@zaklaj woah

[@JohnSmith-dg3rd]

@@o0o0o0o0o0. Ehm, this comment section is not a competition who has seen more cruelty. We all know you guys are so damn tough.

[@titanblood8210]

That stuff is popular in areas of China, some of the people there believe that pain makes the meat taste better. Disgusting.

[@Mastibear]

this was a real eye opener, never thought about this.

[@smokinpot]

Just a few days ago I was thinking of what youtube moderators have to see.. so much gore and porn

[@Mastibear]

@UC-hdFzoR34Kkmzz-9KvqWLA proud of u, save the doggies

[@iwantlee9510]

@@smokinpot Dude, porn is probably the least horrible thing they watch, based on what this guy said...

[@smokinpot]

@@iwantlee9510 I know I don’t care about porn and stuff like that but I couldn’t sit there all day and watch gore

[@randy2.0kitt]

Yeah but it don’t change anything. The more you know the more you regret knowing

[@faithwise8856]

It sounds like being a 911 operator for the entire internet community. I couldn't do it.

[@Danny_from21444]

I could if I was on marijuana

[@PichuElric]

Not even that lol. They're powerless to stop anything or do anything. They can only ban people from that site

[@SplintersInTime]

Yep.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@Danny_from21444 wtf no, that would not make it easier

[@DecentraLife]

This man's monologue is a very good testimony to how easily people can internalize trauma (physical or mental) without realizing the true long-term impact on health & wellness - evidence of our fragility as people. This is a great interview and he displays great wisdom and profound understanding in his discussion.

[@raven4k998]

pour guy I hope he finds some way to recover and get some relief some how from being a face book moderator

[@MJAY-N7129]

I completely agree. You said this really well and I do hope that he is recovering 🙏🏾 this is quite scary

[@herdrugby11]

Hahahahaha stop it right now

[@piperconnelly8535]

Completely agree - I love your phrasing of your thoughts as well!

[@101franny]

@@herdrugby11 totally with you!! DON’T WATCH ANYTHING EVER AGAIN PEOPLE! If Facebook is that bad, then watch KZbin, oh wait a minute… 🤣

[@BinocularRivalry]

The fact that moderators, risking their mental health in perpetuity, get paid $15/hour to do this is utterly scandalous.

[@sdm1568]

$15/hr is pretty good money in my area.

[@hesh9646]

@@sdm1568 not with a disturbing job like this, it's underpaid

[@lau6438]

That's the average wage for being a soldier.

[@harizu_5182]

Reasonable....a little bit.

[@neilgunns8391]

Are you sure they're not in the Philippines

[@goodhathacker8405]

One of those “someone’s gotta do it” job. Real heroes of society.

[@ayamaysar5764]

Agree

[@DuBstep115]

No one has to do it tbh

[@blasianking4827]

@@DuBstep115 Not really. AI could mitigate some moderation but at this current time I don't think we really have a way for AI to accurately moderate content on its own, and it could cause a whole load of issues. Human moderators are a necessary evil, and I think the controversy around the job can be lessened if people knew what it was and there was more transparency. Sites like Facebook should clearly state the types of content they will see, pay good amounts, and offer benefits like free mental healthcare by professionals. That way people are more aware of what the jobs entail.

[@DuBstep115]

@@blasianking4827 No one has to moderate, it's a decision they have chosen but it's not necessary.

[@blasianking4827]

@@DuBstep115 There has to be moderation, it's just a matter of who. Currently, it doesn't look like we can just have AI moderation.

[@Dani_1012]

THIS is the job that AI needs to take over, not the ones that people actually enjoy

[@prankest7440]

I agree but that unfortunately won’t happen yet until it’s perfected enough

[@gezza18]

@@prankest7440actually AI would be perfect for this job. It can remove a majority of gore and pornography content. Then have someone to review it if they repost

[@Gamingswole121]

The complexity of neural networks involved in A.I should only be used for extreme information processing at a quantum level. This job should be for no one and all forms social media should be shutdown.

[@gezza18]

@@Gamingswole121 Yeah in what utopian world is that ever to happen

[@Igor_054]

jobs that people actually enjoy? lol

[@yungmacro3801]

Listening to this guy talk makes me realize how stunted i am from unrestricted omegle, liveleak, bestgore, etc content when i was younger

[@123s453e56a6l]

a different age

[@mrbowlingcrazy]

@@123s453e56a6l ync, seegore, etc.. all keep the goods coming

[@Volkhala]

Easy money

[@sirgianthammer4717]

Don’t forget efukt

[@EirikXL]

It's true, sometimes it feels like my reality is different from everybody else, what I've seen... it makes everyone's joy seem so distant.

[@wuttheactual6323]

They really had to give him the creppyest mask ever

[@burningmatch09]

Still better than Zuckerberg's real face. And less creepy at that.

[@CEOofSleep]

@@burningmatch09 doesn't count, it's a lizard pretending to be human

[@outriderjuno9371]

don't they all get this one

[@scheezy]

I normally don't correct people but it's "creepiest". Your comment just makes you sound foolish and I know you're trying to make a point. You should probably edit it.

[@wuttheactual6323]

@@scheezy sorry I don't have good grammar 😂 it's just something I'm not good at you can atleast understand it sook

[@JustChillingOnTattoine]

The question is, does facebook alert the authorities if the moderators see content that could possibly relate to crimes though? Or they delete the evidence?..

[@cynthiaalltheway6655]

For real !!!? I was wondering the same fucking thing!! What if they rlly deleted sum piece of evidence of some murder ?! Who knows

[@bim2013]

They Just delete it from the public it's still somewhere on the servers

[@justbruh1823]

On my moderation job, we alert the authorities, I assume facebook would do also

[@ado4224]

Some poeple in my contry filmed as they beat a guy to death and they went to prison. Don't know who contacted the police though.

[@justbruh1823]

@Abraham Velez I can't say the company name because i'm still working for them but let say it's a big gaming company where you can send messages, videos, audio messages and pictures

[@whitneymiller3809]

When he said he thought "PTSD was just people being useless" it made me burst out laughing, but also struck a nerve. I grew with 2 alcoholic parents, and one of them had the same view. Needless to say talking to them(especially my mother that had that view)about anything was like talking to a brick wall.

[@torkaumbra1826]

Yeah it struck my nerve too

[@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj]

So your alcoholic parents caused your ptsd and then they deny it😮

[@whitneymiller3809]

@@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj Mother denies any wrong doing way more than my father. One day my therapist confronted her when I was 17 and my mom just said "ok well I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing" which was the closest form of accepting any wrong doing.

[@Hotsauceonmy]

Definitely never thought about how a social media moderator’s job is literally to sift through the most vile content on the internet

[@kurtangusofficial]

8 hours a day, five days a week

[@tdg710]

Yeah, can't have people telling the truth about what the government and corporations like Vice are doing to the population. That's bad.

[@92GreyBlue]

You feeling sorry for the socialist censors?

[@pdsmooth]

poor little pedophiles..it just breaks my heart that these cowardly liars have it so tough.

[@Unknown-xg3ct]

As someone who loves to watch stuff like this. It would be the perfect job for me

[@Robidub]

People are sick. The hardest thing isn’t seeing the violence it’s realizing that there are thousands and thousands of people that are capable gruesome horrible acts and for many places in the world it’s common place.

[@RO-in9qe]

Mostly Brazil/ south America

[@maho8326]

@Akhenaton belive me there is a hell. It is so hot there even the sun would scare it.

[@electricpurple4112]

@@RO-in9qe You really think this, and not that it's in North America right under your nose? INTERESTING

[@RO-in9qe]

@@electricpurple4112 why? Are you Chopping people up in your basement?

[@thedarkplague1475]

@@RO-in9qe what does that have to do with anything? The point is things like this happened everyday. The west isn’t an exception to things like this.

[@cizia69]

"I missed a nipple or an ISIS flag" Facebook's idiotic policy in one statement

[@ethan20559]

cherry picking at its finest. it takes dedication to only hear that one line i guess

[@ASAPJermz]

@@ethan20559 Facts, he's unknowingly spewing logical fallacies 😂🗣

[@cizia69]

@@ASAPJermz Not a logical fallacy here; I wasn't making any argument or reasoning, but pinpointing how ridiculous these puritan policies can sound when opposed to real evils. You are thus unknowingly using this expression.

[@ASAPJermz]

@@cizia69 Okay guy, let's make statements then make more about how we originally never had any thoughts what so ever 🤣👌🏼

[@synthdave1158]

@@ASAPJermz if "I missed a nipple or an ISIS flag" wakes you up in the middle of the night.... you were probably never cut out for the job to begin with.... yall want to see real evil come to the dark side of the internet where there is no moderator at all.... TOR... have fun

[@ipercalisse579]

I share the story a psychologist told me, illegally, about one of her patient. "They" moved to a place where the rent was low as they had to do this type of job. The company offered the job and the place at the same time, guess why. All the people there worked for the same company and it was... the psychologist couldn't remember the name, she said, like facebook but it is Chinese... well, it was Tik Tok. At a certain point the people in the flat moved out so "they" remained alone for like 2 months. 2 months of watching disturbing content of tik tok all alone. The psychologist told me what they described, violence, rape, porn, suicide, kinks and pedophilia. After 2 months they got rescued by the psychiatric unity as they wanted to take their life. They got suicidal.

[@PichuElric]

Oh god, I can't imagine...

[@2mfours]

oh my god :/

[@michaelstephenvargas8821]

If facebook can do this imagine what TIKTOK would do. That job is suicide.

[@kovam1234]

Well they took that job voluntarily and expected what they would deal with? Same with murder investigators, obviously they know what they are gping to work with and its their reaponsibility to consider if they can handle it. So simple

[@oliwiastanisawska6545]

There is huge amount of disturbing content on tiktok, and tiktok doesn’t seem to care.

[@user-me9vk8df6p]

I can't imagine the trauma that he's getting from all those traumatising videos, im so glad he voiced it out for us to know about this job

[@lazyinbed1387]

It’s definitely made my alcoholism a lot worse and I’ve contemplated certain things. I don’t recommend this job to anyone.

[@512foe]

I seen so many gore vids and other disturbing vids around my 18/17 years old and it didn’t face me of course it’s gruesome but I’m still able to live life without trauma, am I a psychopath ?

[@Banoffeenyx]

@@512foe nah man you're just desensitised. Stop watching that crap.

[@paintbynumbermonalisa4187]

I saw a woman jump in front of a coming subway train in Toronto, Canada around 8pm, I still vividly remember it 18 years ago now, she was just about 20 feet in front of me, it traumatized me so much I couldn't sleep for a couple of months and I was suddenly scared of dark rooms or going into the basement, I would just turn on all the lights during the day and dreaded when nightfall came. I can't imagine how so much much worse this person had it.

[@roningaming716]

@@paintbynumbermonalisa4187 noice

[@haroldharold9042]

When law enforcement officers have to review crime scene images or really disturbing crime videos (crimes against children for instance), they’re not allowed to do it for too long because it’s fucking traumatizing. Why can’t Facebook, a multibillion dollar company, limit the time individual employees spend looking at disturbing content?

[@Karma-zf6su]

Because a company goal will always be: Make more money. Contracting multiple people to do a job that one person alone can do, makes less money. You get the idea.

[@blengdiabloed7335]

well you have actual trained veteran degenerates who actually ventures to deep web like me to find more cursed pictures and you'll basically learn mental block to the point where nothing can scare you. it happens where you become so detached to the reality from this so this is a warning trigger sign.

[@clarkkent1253]

@@blengdiabloed7335 Your emotions became like a staticky Tv signal, the old kind with the bunny ear antenna.

[@Mm-vr9mt]

@@blengdiabloed7335 Dw it's fairly easy to come back just find some harrowing stuff on something you still have attachment to (eg dogs and say the gas chambers) and you should be able to reacclimate in due time (hopefully for the better but it is a gamble)

[@camdt456]

@@blengdiabloed7335 wow watch out guys we got an edgelord over here

[@saikosocial]

Vice: "How many times are you going to invert the colors?" Editor: "Yes"

[@super_1036]

Just their style of editing. I personally liked the timing between them.

[@myathegrandma]

@@super_1036 Me too!

[@moonsvc]

I love cheesesticks

[@OGworry]

@@super_1036 Me too!

[@oneweekproject9190]

it's traumatizing

[@michaelmarin573]

As a former EMT, I can tell you for a fact that PTSD is 100% real.

[@IbrahimShahKhan]

People moderating for KZbin in India have to go through such horrors too. I've had a friend who had to quit his job and has still been suffering from PTSD

[@wouldbabyhitlerkillyou4217]

weak

[@thefakeguest1237]

Damn I feel bad for them

[@savagesock3598]

Well tell your friend that a couple people in a comment section called him a pussy, he'll probably understand.

[@manez9691]

What is moderator ? I don't understand can u explain?

[@sublimeknight1754]

@@manez9691 A moderator is someone who moderates a site. So in the case of youtube and Facebook they look at reported posts and remove them if they go against their guidelines

[@olocippicolo]

Denying someone's mental health issue by saying ''it's a bit overdramatic'' is totally unacceptable. It's even more unacceptable when it's a whole group claiming that something isn't right and you just brush it off.

[@SpaceMissile]

it also doesn't fit because if this stuff wasn't inherently terrible, then why are you censoring them? just let the masses see them. Or are your own content policies being overdramatic?

[@justwriteofficial]

Zuck is not human i guess. He's too odd not able to witness how people affect them mentally.

[@israel1231]

Quit Da hell 😂

[@willian2848]

YES, YES, YES, *YES*

[@thalassaer4137]

@@israel1231 shut it demon

[@kelseyscraftingcornerwcrys3755]

I went to school for social work, and we learned you can get PTSD not only from watching videos, but hearing OTHER people's story and trauma. It was something we are trained to be aware of because we can get trauma from hearing others stories if they are severe.

[@lyledeporiss5937]

I watched a famous-ish video of a horrific act when I was in the 6th grade because my friends put it on and there's not a month of my life that's gone by where I haven't thought about it. I'm in my 20's now and I've seen and had plenty of traumatic things happen to me since then but that video just never goes away

[@ItsNerkEm]

@@lyledeporiss5937 shoot the link

[@lyledeporiss5937]

@@ItsNerkEm Wouldn't do much it's just data

[@cc-ci5dq]

@@lyledeporiss5937 what lmao

[@DerpyDooReviews]

@@cc-ci5dq He made a joke because the other guys said "shoot the link" as in kill it. Though in response to the other guy... The video was from a decade ago, I doubt he has the link or would like to revisit the video to find said link. Probably best to just not watch it.

[@EmersonPUSA]

We've all stumbled across something disturbing on the internet, and if it was disturbing enough it left a sick feeling in your stomach. I couldn't imagine having to feel that way 24/7 until eventually youre so mentally strained and scared that it doesn't effect you immediately, but instead builds up in your head for years and years. I have a new gained respect for these people who have to live life like this just so we dont have to stumble across something so disturbing.

[@yfoog]

If Zuckerberg thinks it’s over dramatic then I’d like to see him do it 8 hours a day every day. I think that would be a great experiment. You up for it Mark?

[@teinkjr]

Most CEO's are borderline sociopaths. They have to be.

[@yfoog]

@@teinkjr agreed

[@tesmat1243]

I think he would get thru pretty easily

[@yfoog]

@@tesmat1243 haha true

[@engineertf2262]

Thank you my fav pokémon

[@Perc1000]

May God help the 4chan moderators, who don't even get paid for their work.

[@ravenwaffle7574]

@@boncoderz1430 better for you to not know about it

[@CatLover69420]

@@ravenwaffle7574 how bad can it be, i think i can handle it

[@evrenbasak6381]

@@boncoderz1430 a forum site. but all kinds of content is free to upload and it is said that fbi track down users there.

[@EsplodingBomb]

There's a reason they're called "Janitors"

[@diab0und]

I used the site for the gore so they must be deleting some seriously fucked up stuff

[@min-stradamus893]

I was a content moderator for 2yrs and it's the worst job ever. I literally had PTSD and have ask for medical help assistance from my company but they didn't allow it. Salute to all content moderators out there.

[@hshshshshshshshshshs]

What app are you moderating?

[@davidfgaga9685]

I start next month but Just for a year or so😅 lets See how i deal with that

[@hshshshshshshshshshs]

@@davidfgaga9685 what app are you moderating?

[@umiismyname4142]

me too with Accenture. the pay is good just my mental isnt

[@The_Quaalude]

​@@davidfgaga9685have you gone insane yet?

[@cloverross1404]

Mad respect to moderators or similar roles online. They’re like our psychological soldiers, shielding us from trauma while being on front lines against human depravity. I don’t understand why Facebook doesn’t just simply admit that there are evil people in the world who post about evil things, and then make it a call to action to fight against it by keeping the content off of the platform so that it remains a safe place, but then to also leverage the resources required to take action on what’s going on in the video.

[@SixBowlSage]

even thinking about "a dog being barbecued alive" puts me in rage.

[@minikaur4993]

Like it should

[@areanaangel8964]

That was the one that stood out to me the most... I'm immersed in community of mental health, self harm and suicide, and see violence and murder on T.V. but that one shocked me

[@masonparis2170]

100%

[@torpedotorben]

Maybe never go to China then..

[@user-oe1sw9rh8b]

@@syndrome9000 that video is famous af and it was a girl in the us she got killed after because of that

[@serroche]

I deleted all my social media a year and a half ago, just stay on YT to share my musical content. Never been happier to do so. It's really nice to recover that feeling of being 'anonimous' again and not being constantly obsessed with other's people fake crap.

[@serroche]

@@MattBrain9336 But that's the point. You always gonna have an 'excuse' to not delete your social media accounts. Trust me, the people who cares about you will eventually contact you even if you don't have FB or Instagram. Same way goes for you, when you truly care about someone you either call him/her or go straight and pay a visit, right? A lame FB post or message is not the same, just saying.

[@SinCityRaider81]

Same brother I am in a better place I live in the real world now.

[@habitspinkrabbits4452]

same. and yeah, definitely. Not documenting my experiences has allowed me to well, experience them on a much deeper level. As well as define my happiness for myself, without thousands of other lives to compare against. People are always so shocked, when I tell them I don't use social media except KZbin, as if I'm somehow dysfunctional. ironic, that many of them put the fun in dysfunction.

[@thesimplechiclife]

Agreed!!!! I have Facebook for one reason and one only and that’s to sell household items I no longer need. Otherwise I don’t even log in. I have KZbin and Instagram for a business/hobby/creative outlet. I don’t even scroll. And my mental health is so much better than it ever has been!

[@RonLarhz]

KZbin IS social media.

[@cjn0]

Few seconds in and he basically explained the internet

[@TheDexsword]

I wanted to say yes but no you dont get showered with c*hild porn, murder, s*cide content that are really graphic everytime you go to your internet spaces. We gotta do this as a job, everytime we go there we have a high chance seeing fcked up things.

[@powertothesheeple5422]

@@TheDexsword I would have thought that by now they would have programs to automatically eliminate the extremely crazy stuff like that but I guess it's much harder to do that than to program them for text moderating.

[@Redomic]

@@TheDexsword Mainstream social media is highly moderated. Try going even slightly astray and stuff like this becomes common place.

[@Mike-xz4ec]

@@TheDexsword links?

[@TheDexsword]

@@powertothesheeple5422 Well they do but the system need to be keep trained, and me and for a lot of people those are our jobs

[@juancelop]

I've watched these series for long and i feel like the team should cover their skin up to prevent allegations. I feel thankful they had the gut to come up and expose to us the dark world but i've always been afraid for their safety.

[@BrittanyMichelle4]

Right? I mean God for bid they have some equipment , camera or w.e..computer,stuff like that.. technology ! , made to scope out someone's skin and gets their DNA Scary

[@A_78939]

It’s up to the individual. If you notice, the very dangerous ones wear all hoodies and long sleeves.

[@juancelop]

@@A_78939 Just noticed, thanks! But minimal to no "Visual Information/Clue" is always better than what is being filmed at the moment. Better safe than sorry.

[@sayastrathebusker757]

I have complained that I wish social media hired more moderators, this really makes me pause and think. Guy is doing thankless work. Thanks dude.

[@Atlasmauri]

As a previous FB content moderator, I have seen people watching kids getting raped and they fell down crying and screaming hysterically in shock to what they have seen, I myself was treating content that was mainly focused on suicide and self-harming and faced many content where I was totally frozen that I couldn't think straight to click on the correct decision based on what the policy is providing. When you're treating these contents you have to consider the details and the caption so you can make what it seems the right decision, therefore it will maintain your accuracy percentage, otherwise it will drop and the accuracy bonus will disappear from your salary. So you have to force yourself to look carefully at what you're treating no matter what's in it and beware of what's the right decision.

[@JazukaiX]

Guarantee nobody likes you if youre the type asking for more moderation online

[@mariaholic9211]

@@Atlasmauri Jesus Christ, that's fucked...

[@brotherhoodofsteelsoldier1356]

@@JazukaiX ditto mate, ditto

[@LanceJohn]

Now, if you can find a youtube person that does the same job

[@JohnCrichton]

Same issue that went on with this. It's being kept under wraps how badly these people are having to deal with all this stuff. Sure they go into the job thinking they can handle it and all that stuff but they don't realize until it's too late what they're actually doing to themselves. It's very sad and Facebook 100% knows exactly what they were doing to these people.

[@veryconfused9768]

Yh

[@TheDexsword]

@@JohnCrichton probably man the problem is there is lack of jobs opening for other kind of jobs and these jobs seems to be always there so me and a lot people took it.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@TheDexsword I wasn't questioning anybody that took the job? I was questioning Facebook for not being honest with people about the repercussions of seeing traumatic footage. Maybe you can handle it maybe someone else can't. That's not the point and they knew that when they started hiring people. That's why they're getting sued to holy hell.

[@Mashburn007]

Man those early days of KZbin had all sorts of scary stuff

[@raedae480]

I worked as a moderator for fb with this guy. Not sure who he is but I’m pretty sure we worked at the same location as there were only 2 locations in the US. Everything he is saying is true. Not only was the content traumatizing but it was an unsafe environment to work in. Towards the end of the project they hired armed security to watch the parking lot and buildings because people would show up harassing the workers asking “is this fb building” or trying to get in the building without a badge. We had something called wellness but you were in penalized for using more than 45 mins a week even though he seen someone die or a child being molested. We were desensitized to a lot of things being shown. There was a guy who died on the job from a heart attack and they called the ambulance and clocked him out and acted like nothing had happened. It wasn’t a good environment to be in emotionally. The pay was great and they pretty much gave away money so I think that’s why a lot of people stayed. We recently got paid our settlement money after waiting almost 2 years.

[@seethruyou255]

hope ur doing okay..

[@hoesmad3568]

protecting the people by sacrificing yourself 🙏🙏🙏 i dont use facebook but i appreciate your work

[@casualtake1497]

Is it six figure job? I kinda want to try lol

[@imdagoat18]

@@casualtake1497 They make 44k a year.

[@casualtake1497]

@@imdagoat18 thats smaller than i expected

[@disco_disaster]

They should make, “the horrors of working in pharmacy” It wouldn’t be messed up like this, but you do feel a similar helplessness.

[@ummkulthummukhlis8698]

If you’ve worked in a pharmacy and you can give us the info then contact them! I’ve wanted to know how it is being in a pharmacy

[@FruityHachi]

it’s strange how some people cannot empathize until they’re put in the same position

[@livequality4578]

Who would want to work for FB...they're the bastion of politically correct censorship of free-speech

[@ethereal5867]

I know right

[@kria9119]

I find it a bit harder to feel for him after hearing his opinion on PTSD prior to working for Facebook. Entitled attitude and clearly oblivious

[@aabracadavra]

@@kria9119 This. I had the same experience when I heard him say that. There's certain things in life that I simply cannot come to terms with, and some of those are snobbism and intellectuals who think their personal reality is universal, therefore everything that doesn't apply to them is irrelevant and futile.

[@crimsonbear1776]

@@livequality4578 FB is a conglomerate of fake news and alt-right boomers. We have a very different idea of what that website is right now.

[@immortalasirpa8117]

As a female court reporter in the US, I've worn waterproof makeup my whole career. Lawsuits are never fun, but even doing civil work, my job includes capturing some seriously sad and horrifying testimony word-for-word. Where everyone in the room is crying--witnesses, attorneys--but since I can't lift my hands from my machine, the tears just wash down my face. I try not to work on too many wrongful death cases in a row. *They haunt you.* Especially when they involve kids.

[@raysplace6548]

Jesus.. That's gotta be brutal.. I could never do it..

[@raygun8807]

Just damn.. I just never thought about it. I’m sorry

[@TheSeamJimi]

my god. i do feel though that your work is just so important, and demands a powerful heart. i hope at the very least this helps.

[@Naallaa]

It's hard to believe your feelings if you're still working that job you must be enjoying it. The fact you get up and get ready go do job day after day for months, years says a lot about you. We know narcissist/ Sociopath fake emotions, actions & their words...

[@rascal_rae]

*hugs*

[@Sv63s]

Huge shout out to all the moderators making the sacrifices we can't handle, I know I won't be able to understand you're a pain but thank you for everything (Edit: I have started a war)

[@brettalexander220]

bow to crnsorship

[@iputapipebombintoyourmailb6210]

I screenshot your pfp

[@Sv63s]

@@iputapipebombintoyourmailb6210 good cause I screeenshotted it to

[@Seema98709]

True

[@brettalexander220]

@@Sv63s i screenshotted your username, just want to know who im against when big brother goes 1984

[@Ensky695]

MUCH RESPECT TO THIS MAN AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SACRIFICING THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. LORD PLEASE TAKE THIS MANS PAIN AWAY.

[@foodlover1288]

We need to stop using toxic platforms and expose evil. Censoring it wont help at all.

[@reapthewhirlwind6915]

Should be more than 7 minutes. Make a whole doc about this.

[@joosttoepoel4715]

Yes!

[@yakivpopavich]

He claims he has PTSD from seeing dicks and dead bodies on the internet, lmao.

[@jewelscoop3570]

@@yakivpopavich well its that, but constantly non stop for hours and hours watching people being killed in gruesome manners. Youd get fucked up for doing that 8 hours a day 5 days a week or more for years.

[@J-Blitz]

There is one called „the cleaners“. Truly shocking stuff that’s happens in the background

[@williehortons2492]

@@clicheguevara5282 I'm going to say, option B. for that one.

[@Styxhexenhammer666]

Having to work for Zuckerborg must suck.

[@ownleywunlord9638]

How do you claim 666 and bash him. He's part of the same

[@LeMeccerino]

oh hey razorfist

[@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316]

@@ownleywunlord9638 yup, these sicko people are everywhere now.. I see them all over youtube, cult people who act like Satanism is harmless and deny its background or what it really represents

[@ticktockbam]

Is the pay even that good

[@vincentsavoca5575]

STYX STRIKES WITH RANDOM COMMENTS AGAIN!

[@sashanoel8766]

Can we talk about how great of a speaker this man is? He explained his daily work, experience, trauma with great eloquence, nuance, perspective and self-awareness. That’s a lot for someone to be able to do after suffering that kind of daily mental trauma.

[@sondre7501]

@youreliving alie really?

[@HardstylePete]

@youreliving alie If that was the case, they would make it more clear I believe. "To protect the informants identify...." but I don't see this on the video.

[@DonovanAenslaed]

Yeah I definitely noticed how eloquent and well spoken he is in this interview. Moreover, he's an active body language user, even his gestures participate in recalling such impactful experiences...

[@MXC-hc7jm]

He isn't

[@PhiHung-cu3sv]

In every social platform, there are people who do the "mod" work and I'm one of them. I used to work as a moderator for facebook and most recently TikTok and trust me when I say what you see on TikTok, Facebook is 10-20% of what we see everyday, there are many disturbing contents people posting online. I once worked at Vietnam and Thailand for a couple of months and we have a choice of policy allow us to inform the police indirectly to check someone who is hurting themselves on the video. The job is terrifying and I had to quit after 3 years because it was affecting my mental health so badly

[@eclogitetack]

I’m honestly scarred just hearing that they “barbecue dogs”. I can’t and don’t want to imagine having to see this on a daily basis

[@kiara6237]

same! creepy as hell

[@TheRandompaint]

Idk if it weird but it bothers me more than the murders

[@mr.ditkovich6379]

CHINA, nothing weird for them

[@MsDeongi]

You heard murder first but key in on dogs 👀😂

[@Sader2]

People barbecue animals daily.

[@Trabsx]

I feel like part of this issue is people do not realize how truly messed up the world is, and how dirty each and everyone of us humans are. Innocence is one of the strongest illusions we all play with.

[@Idellphany]

Exactly

[@DeathsSON213]

Humans are mostly delusional by nature I'd say.

[@yeshacroe9354]

Even as a child i was not innocent, like i pulled a girl's hair just cause im envious. I would always make sure my chocolates in the refrigerator is for mine only, i won't share that many to others which is greedy of me.

[@brittanycosta5257]

We can thrive to improve the way we treat others.

[@marticus1642]

I disagree, Believe me I’ve seen some of the most disgusting and traumatizing videos on social media and in real life however despite how horrible and disgusting these acts I’ve seen were. I still believe in good in people because I’ve seen plenty of selfless acts of humanity and kindness and innocence

[@sheezy2526]

“There are no beautiful surfaces without a terrible depth” - Friedrich Nietzsche

[@karendegenerous8044]

That was a reflection on his own life, and you adding it on here is a reflection of your life.

[@phantom-xb6wv]

Fredick shitzsche

[@TimSzabo]

makes no sense lmao - Me, Myself, and I

[@eeeooo4908]

I don't see what beauty exists that could justify murder, torture, rape etc. And that nihilist was a loser.

[@Aiyan777]

Love this quote! Life is such a dichotomy and yin and yang of all things. Prior to the military; I was unfazed and untainted and I've learned that all of the ugly experiences I've seen made me a deeper soul.

[@matiassartorio2371]

This series is some of the most eye opening news I’ve ever seen. Please keep it up.

[@AlmostReady504]

two questions needing to be addressed: 1) what is a moderators range of pay 2) do they EVER contact authorities

[@ShinmegamiPersona]

44k a year

[@CaPuGinoXD]

@@ShinmegamiPersona lmao that would mean ur in poverty in my country

[@anonymousraccoonchild1953]

That’s pretty good, I’d never do something that damaging to myself for that money tho

[@anonymousraccoonchild1953]

@KaPuGinoXD wait what country do u live in?!

[@gmar7836]

YES!! Authorities should always be contacted to go after these evil pricks. I’m in connection with a law enforcement officer that goes after animal abusers

[@SwtorSateleShanFan]

I love the fact that facebook deletes all that stuff without reporting it to the local authorities. Good job! Keep it up!

[@pizzapastasosoyumyum3450]

I think it’s privacy’s policy

[@pizzapastasosoyumyum3450]

But I was wishing these moderators would secretly tip off the police

[@zacapoo]

@@pizzapastasosoyumyum3450 CP being protected by a privacy policy is truly despicable

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

@@pizzapastasosoyumyum3450 Yup!

[@porkfriedrice1530]

I think they have an agreement with law enforcement.. remember the black kids that kidnapped that kid and put it on FB live.. I think they helped find their locations through their apps/phones with law enforcement. There’s no way you can post a murder to Facebook and assume the FBI won’t find out ASAP

[@khazms]

This makes me realize why so many posts I've reported were never removed. It's because these guys are so desensitized, the thing that I reported is just not that bad compared to what they usually see, but again the fact is, it was bad, it's just that these guys are used to seeing so much worse that it's nothing in comparison, so they did nothing.

[@zhenyucai8688]

No, you're probably just sensitive. I've never seen bad posts on FB(not counting when they get hacked), these guys do a good job.

[@khazms]

@@zhenyucai8688 No one agrees with you.

[@mintyfresh4855]

@@khazms lmao

[@khazms]

@Jay Alexander No, but that's oddly specific, as if you're projecting? Sus

[@zhenyucai8688]

@@khazms No one agrees with me? Lol what a flat out delusional statement. Anyways I don't need people to agree, I need you to show me evidence of these horrible posts you're screeching about.

[@mahounotenshi]

as someone that got through extreme graphic "content" for some years, that sh-t literally rott our brains. i couldn't ever imagine myself working as a moderator of social media, my mind wouldn't take it. when he said we lost hope I DEFINITELY FELT IT. it's a necessary work? yeah, but it's hard asf to have enough mental health to see stuff like this everyday so you can pay the bills.

[@halgaucher6730]

“Can’t get PTSD unless directly harmed” uh a lot of torture methods are just exposing someone to horrific images and sound.

[@clover2340]

not only that, you can get PTSD simply by witnessing something happening to. someone or helping them (cops and medics get ptsd too from what they see)

[@raysboomboomroom4800]

pigs squealing in the bg at this job would be borderline

[@cupofjoe1788]

What are you talking about images and sounds are not torture

[@raysboomboomroom4800]

@@cupofjoe1788 I think anything that makes you uncomfortable for long enough could be considered. You could probably even torture yourself not an expert but then again the brain isn't the most predictable thing is it? This proves that this man thought it was the contrary also and changed his mind in retrospect. Only one way to find out clearly.

[@zakifahmidwiputra8773]

yeah I agree with u remember when Vietnam war, US army using the sound of praying for the death and a lot of screaming and that make vietcong have a nightmare just because they hear that sound I think that called operation wandering soul I think

[@mrdasilver]

One of my cousins works as a social media moderator. Although he couldn't disclose the details of his job, he did tell me what his job interview was like: The interviewer asked him what the worst thing he had ever witnessed was, to which he revealed he had witnessed a man commit suicide . Then the interviewer asked him what the worst thing he had ever seen on the internet was. I'll spare anyone reading this from the details. Suffice it to say my cousin got the job. And he told me every single person in his department is either severely depressed or dealing with serious cases of PTSD, or both. It's a really tough job, one that I don't think I could ever do, at least not without compromising my mental health. I sincerely thank everyone sitting behind a screen keeping children, teenagers, and sensitive people like myself, safe from the horrors of real life posted on the internet. You are all heroes in my book.

[@Timoraegi]

I remember as a kid, watching a video on Facebook before it was deleted, of a person slicing the neck of a hostage (edit: Mexican drug cartel kills woman, it was real)- That video traumatised my 12 year old me and at 24 years old I still have this hyper sensitivity at the bottom of my neck and at clavicle area that makes me extremely uncomfortable. I can't imagine what these people would go through

[@CarlJohnson-po9lj]

Lmaoo that’s reality king. But to say that the video still affects you 12 years later? I mean sure.

[@Timoraegi]

@@CarlJohnson-po9lj It's calmed down a lot but when I'm in an uncomfortable situation it starts bothering me again- Probably looks weird to people since I'm a pretty big guy. Childhood traumas last lifetimes man.

[@icedcoffeecapricorn]

@@CarlJohnson-po9lj You think just like Zuckerburg.

[@victoriawhite4512]

@Arlene Adedeji yeah why tf did they show that to us as middle schoolers?? or at least they did at my school. literally showing us footage of people dying. messed up.

[@alexbreen316]

@@CarlJohnson-po9lj So edgy

[@NoobAmerican]

I got friends who work as moderators in twitch. They have 3-4 psychiatrists on-site to help out with the stuff they moderate and the amount of porn/gore/murders they see is just unbelievable.

[@kellynkarr]

I like this human. I really hope he's doing well

[@tobybartlett]

He seems like a very smart and nice guy.

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

Lol, "I saw stuff in the internet". Try deploying to Iraq and picking up dead bodies and bits of children. Nice try guy.

[@achievehigher26]

@@NOTSOSLIMJIM ur rly comparing trauma? How shallow

[@tako2963]

@@NOTSOSLIMJIM just because people did have to go through that as well in Iraq doesn't invalidate the struggles that either of them may be going through having to see these horrible things on the daily. To have the deficiency of intelligence to assume that stating another person's issues should invalidate this person is just insane. Nice try though guy.

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

@@achievehigher26 I'm say the guy was literally saying he has PTSD from looking at the internet.....

[@ModernSouthernBelle]

No one should do this in 8 hour shifts. Facebook is truly evil. They need to hire thousands of people part time and restrict the amount of time someone can stay in this role.

[@eddie9753]

right

[@mleecthulhu]

Yes it IS evil...i got rid of mine on NYE 2015...never been back. Dont even miss it. AT ALL.

[@brettalexander220]

the only power they will have in their lives is silencing and censoring. Sad really.

[@bdrummmm]

@@brettalexander220 I’m confused….isn’t everyone (the liberals) mad at Facebook for not censoring enough stuff like Twitter does

[@Frozo-nt2ky]

He doesn’t have to do it lmao

[@JennWatson]

I’m traumatized by listening to him being traumatized by disturbing online filth

[@kiarrakiarra7269]

When you watch the entire video, you realize the real disturbing online filth isn't the content he evaluated, it was the management and ceo of the company he worked for.

[@blocksarefun1]

@@kiarrakiarra7269 where do i get the jobb

[@sarah06324]

Made me nauseous tbh.

[@boorave]

Same

[@user-vg5zx4lx8m]

@@blocksarefun1 you don't.

[@awguitarroom8033]

There's far more evil in the world than anybody can ever imagine. This is why you need to just take care of your loved ones and keep a tight circle of people around you

[@jas_bataille]

This person is so damn articulate, to see someone this smart having to go to the extreme of accepting a job like this really makes me sad :(

[@NormallyImKim]

Fr. Makes me worry at what things are coming to.

[@j.b.3502]

Its what he gets for signing up to censor peoples freedom of speech

[@j.b.3502]

@@ArcXDZ Unless you can say where I said murder is somehow freedom of speech you have a sub 3 digit IQ

[@YukariAkiyama]

@@j.b.3502 I like how you insult someone’s IQ but you don’t use grammar while insulting ArcXDZ.

[@j.b.3502]

@@YukariAkiyama Still doesn't invalidate my point.

[@therivercake871]

These people aren’t just filtering abuse, they’re living in it. This is horrific.

[@markharrington5826]

No its not , nothing socking about this at all Its your real world and eliminating some of this is only ever covering up the truth , real truths which although hidden are very much in existence and where you as nations live in dream world thinking you are all madly in love with each other not even knowing 1/10 of this , with governments refusing to address or do anything at all or listen and leaving you open targets Wake up to the real world pal Its erosion of peoples speech internationally What is your problem with this other you cant deal with your world Its a world which you as human beings and leaders created on your very own Covering this up with no end of lies or pretending or removing some of what people are doing or saying is only making that situation worse Sooner or later you will come across this if not on the net but in real life whether you or anyone else likes this or not No point in pretending then as by that stage its too late This is what it often takes to shake the world and the very leaders whom you elect into reality and also exposes just how many lies and cover ups your very own leaders are up too Would you prefer not to know then suddenly come across situation thinking , " Oh nice person, met this person on facebook " Face book profile says, nicey , nicey , because other comments removed by community standards and then you have knify , knify in back because that is all they are doing Hiding it , concealing real ID, giving you the great pretender story and with a government that's applaud , applaud , vote as back in power yah , we are doing a splendid job When actually all they have done is make you a walking talking target That is what your animals and those in charge of these social platforms who make mega amounts of money have done with you thinking , "Ooooh the world is lovely jubilee , I'm so in love , I'm so in love , whoo hoo , hoo , boo, hoo , hoo " Those are my views on this Very sorry but , butter, but , but, but No !! You need to be exposed to some of this and your governments want a kick up the backside in fact in some cases they want shooting over what they have done with communications, IT in general with its implications inclusive business , with the rest of their hoity toity and garbage in these positions complete with pack of lies that you so , so believe May be then you will work out what a pile of rubbish you do have in controlling seats

[@KM41867]

@@markharrington5826 Might need to go back to school with this grammar.

[@markharrington5826]

@@KM41867 My grammar by the way is bad at present because I am both tired and highly annoyed and you coming back with that shitty comment instead of being straight hasnt made anything any better at all or even attempted to throw some light on what should be done and how possibly to even begin sorting these issues out Not that you could !! The typical type that never solves anything at all can only ever pick a holes in someone grammar not ever knowing anything or very little about any of this Gutless as usual !!

[@KM41867]

​@@markharrington5826 My comments need not shed any light on anything whatsoever, though it did so on the poor grammar. And to assert that I couldn't contribute to the discussion possible solutions to the video's problem, simply because you're "tired and highly annoyed" and clearly an ignorant, says a lot about you, your arrogance, and quite possibly, your intellectual capacity. Furthermore, to highlight the glaring grammatical issues within your comment is not to equate with lacking the capacity to formulate my own argument. So, again, I'd advise dialing back on the arrogance. Oh, and "gutless", what an intriguing insult. Though really, it holds no validity any longer (if it ever did to begin with), in the fact that I've now formulated my own argument against you.

[@neffy8850]

@@markharrington5826 Bro good job, you’re pretty understandable in English and all you gotta do is keep practicing. You will have it down in no time. 💯👍🏽

[@jawetty3273]

meanwhile discords mods: HEY! you cant post memes in general chat !!!

[@constan6064]

true lol

[@becauseiambatman2019]

in serious servers and stuff, there are very disturbing videos and stuff as well.

[@imnotsus7914]

@@becauseiambatman2019 fr

[@amenra6042]

Discord is a much more dangerous place and I have seen first hand as an admin. There are - Images of different gore - Redrooms - Suicide videos from streams like YT that got taken down - IP loggers/phishing links - People doxing personal info of another (address, personal social media, full name, etc) - Every type of p*rn you could come up with, from hent*i to straight up physical abuse Thus this is why server rules are paramount to protecting users, otherwise your server becomes a minefield for traumatic imagery.

[@imnotsus7914]

@@amenra6042 fr bruh I got a invite from a neo nazi server I thought it was a troll server or smth but lil did I know

[@solshine747]

I don't know which is sadder, the content itself or the trauma these people went through to review it and remove it so others were not traumatized by it. I had a similar experience working call center for a company contracted from Airbnb. I noticed right away that it was affecting me on an emotional level and everyone else that worked there. I was fortunate I never had to take some really bad calls I had heard about from others. No one there seemed to be addressing the mental and emotional toll the job was having on people. Instead you were corrected on your response to it like it was you that was doing something wrong. We weren't getting paid much money for what we were being asked to deal with. We were not being forewarned thoroughly on what we may have to deal with. I think anyone running a business needs to step down periodically and do any job and every job they're asking their employees to do so that they truly understand.

[@rossrobbins7707]

CW: suicide, violence I've had PTSD since I was 15 years old. A friend and I found a kid from our high school shortly after he shot himself. I stared into the place where his face should have been, and in that moment I felt a horrible, grim darkness wash over me. In that moment didn't know he had done it to himself, so I was partly thinking it could be just about to happen to me. That experience lasted moments, less than a minute, and it changed the course of my entire life. I developed nightmares, panic attacks, depression, anxiety, and started using hard drugs to cope with the symptoms. I share all this because I truly wish people would practice compassion and empathy. What this guy went through (and what I have gone through) has nothing to do with being weak. Trauma can change how your brain functions. It can take over your life. Therapy, medication, and healing over time have helped me stay alive. Please just be there for the people you love.

[@shonenjumpmagneto]

I have PTSD too man. Not TikTok or Tumblr PTSD either lmao. Shits in writing. Sorry you saw that & for what it did to you but it's a part of our reality. Choose to find the goodness in it too. I feel bad for those who live in blissful ignorance.

[@rossrobbins7707]

@@shonenjumpmagneto Yeah, it's a struggle for sure. I'm taking a class next week to get certified as a peer support specialist. That way I'll be able to get a job where I can use my experience to help others going through the same struggle. I've used my writing in the same way, to give this pain meaning and spin it into a positive.

[@alanakasem1723]

oh my...hope you doing better now...

[@redjuice02]

I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I went through traumatizing events for a long period of time as a child and it definitely changes you. Telling survivors of trauma (ANY trauma) to "get over it" is not helpful and is actually damaging as it makes the survivor feel weak or like there is something wrong with them. Support is what survivors need. Not guilt.

[@shonenjumpmagneto]

@@rossrobbins7707 that's wonderful brah keep on keeping on I've considered similar careers. PS: Good luck! Hope it went well.

[@Mewwiee1]

"Barbequing a Dog alive" i've experienced that and the dog begging for help just traumatized me.

[@yeetymissesfeety6443]

when he said that i felt physically sick... the dog doesn't know whats going on...

[@ThatNgaxx]

i've seen worst, i saw someone getting shot with a shotgun, i was like 10 so i don't really remember it well, but yeah.

[@dagdbot83]

@@ThatNgaxx Jesus Christ

[@Mewwiee1]

@@ThatNgaxx woah

[@ginaisthequeen]

@@ThatNgaxx i would be more upset seeing a dog die over a person tbh

[@ahmedoji9608]

I still remember an Indonesian going live on Facebook, saying that he was trying to commit a suicide, and he would actually hold back if he was seeing many nice comments, basically trying to get support from many people so that he felt there was another reason to live. In the end, during the live session, people were saying horrible things like "Go do it," "you are meant to die," "If you believe in God and religion, you will not have a thought of committing suicide," and the lists are still going on. Eventually, he ended up his life, and at that time I just questioned the whole meaning of humanity. I can imagine how hard it is as a social media moderator even seeing much much more horrible things than what I have witnessed. It is not "just a job" that merely clicks a button when something violates, it eats your heart and mind as well

[@Biblestudies658]

I hate it so much and I get so mad at these kind of stories. I just can't express it

[@Biblestudies658]

@@ahmedoji9608 Agreed. I don't even have Facebook. It's probably the same with tiktok, instagram, twitch and twitter as well. I really hope those suicidal people get help.

[@poisonouswolves4384]

that sounds terrible those sorts of people are horrible if they tell somebody to go die

[@edenredeemed]

Social media has caused so much damage. It's horrible that people said that to him and it's also horrible he reached out to strangers online for this.

[@ahmedoji9608]

@@edenredeemed exactly. The victim actually had his whole life torn apart when he got divorced and he could tell none of his problems to his friends and relatives. Bad choice that he decided to escape to FB for his problems just to get even much more harshly bullied. This is the sad reality of post-modern society indeed

[@carterscustomrods]

Right in the beginning... "I never really believed in PTSD. I thought it was people being useless." This is the reality for so many with PTSD. I've been through many traumatic experiences... yet one that wasn't the most traumatic (by and far) was the one that got me. If you have PTSD, it will never go away. You can improve, but if it is a situational trigger, you can never go into that situation again. So for anyone that doesn't believe in it. . . Then I hope you make it your entire life not believing in it. But know this... you are one bad experience away from knowing what it is.

[@clevergirl6041]

I've seen so much traumatic stuff and I have insane PTSD but like you said it's that one thing that cascades everything.. I watched a guy walk up to a group of people in front of a drug house and explain to a crowd of people that he had $150 and that he needed an eight ball 🤦🏽 in that moment, a weird obscure dude we were all Leary of, came up behind him and hit him in the head with a crowbar, cracked his head open, his brains fell out, he was screaming for his mother, had a seizure and passed right there, the dude just bent down & rifled his pockets, found the money and walked up to the same drug dealer that the dude was talking to and bought the eight ball and turned around and looked at 12 or 13 people and just grunted and walked away 😶Sirens lit up the silence so fast! everybody standing there was stunned and I think about it every single day 😭 we were in a high crime area only blocks from the county hospital in the fire department.. an old lady in the window saw what happened and called 911 I was with my friend who only had one leg... He screamed a scream I will never forget, then he turned & started hobbling away quickly down the street, crying, he was traumatized and that was just as bad.. it was so heartbreaking and it really catapulted me into sobriety for a short period of time! Unfortunately it would be many years later before I got sober.. 11 years now ❤️

[@awesomeirlable]

@@clevergirl6041 What a horrible experience. I hope you’ve since been receiving the support that you need

[@oliwiastanisawska6545]

PTSD is very serious and people that don’t believe in its existing I hope will stay this way.

[@angel10101]

right like ok glad you get it now i guess

[@_gonna_renew_my_sinew]

Once I heard that my sympathy went out the door. Still listened and found the speaker very intriguing but karma will always prove itself & never forget an address. Hopefully he was hit hard by his own ptsd experience, it’s the only way he can learn. How disgusting and dangerous his original way of thinking was. I truly deeply dislike ppl like that. Who are you to invalidate something just bc YOU don’t personally deal with it. Unreal. Probably shouldn’t say this but oh well if this haunts him forever. Willful ignorance should be punished.

[@FigureAlchemist]

This was a real eye opener. Never liked facebook, always found it creepy how people I knew would show up in my contacts, even though the only personal information I submitted was my name. No desire to go back to that awful website...

[@faldiraka579]

its the same as any other social media platforms anyways

[@SpaceMissile]

@@faldiraka579 yeah, for real. Google (youtube's owner) probably knows more about us than facebook ever could. edit: still, screw facebook. lol

[@SpaceMissile]

@Cal I notice 100% different ads when we watch KZbin on my gf's account.

[@xijinpingsupremeleader5259]

@@SpaceMissile vibrator and dating app ads imagine lmao

[@SpaceMissile]

@@xijinpingsupremeleader5259 plus a lot of 👭 stuff; idk what's up

[@nuller87]

The most cruel thing you can imagine in your head, is out there on the internet somewhere. It's honestly a scary world, cause our world is slowly turning into online medie, social media, facebook, instagram etc. Especially the young generations are vulnerable as they feel the need to be perfect, thinking their social life is based on the amount of likes their facebook posts get, and more and more young children and teenagers are suffering from anxiety and depression. It's honestly terrefying how the world will look when it's heading straight down the drain as is now.

[@px8]

@facethief Alright big man, beacause we should show young people dogs being burnt alive, ye ok

[@mikayari185]

@@px8 coming from a guy whose only video has misogyny encompassing half its entirety

[@px8]

@@mikayari185 where, and thanks for the view :> edit just rewatched and it's a joke within the games community that the people who use that skin are more often than not really annoying, toxic, and loud, but yea, still quite surprised you were bothered enough to watch a whole rubbish video lol

[@mikaylaguiang2458]

@facethief Edgy teen boy has entered the chat.

[@iwantlee9510]

@facethief the sht Id like to do to you would make those moderators vomit.

[@lemagreengreen]

I think Facebook probably just needs to be removed at this point.

[@jamesfranko1568]

that'll just hurt millions of small businesses

[@lemagreengreen]

@@jamesfranko1568 Yeah, imagine if they had to get websites. It'd be like in the times before 2006 - basically the dark ages.

[@deenad3562]

And YT?..and IG?...

[@mindlessgreen]

Facebook is not the problem. We are a fucked up species.

[@chitobuerano5049]

@@mindlessgreen ...yes we are the fucking problem,,not some social media,,people are responsible for what they put on the net..😏

[@anxietypancake7384]

i always believed the moderation was done by bots. This is very eye opening

[@aaa-hq3ki]

4chan users: 'You guys are getting paid?"

[@BigMisterApple]

Unironically something that crossed my mind as well

[@beyblademan1234567]

Someone gets it

[@adolphboinko5298]

This

[@freedom8383]

kek this

[@takemywordforit4128]

Right? Like dude, I LOOK for this stuff.

[@improcrastinating8063]

This seems like a perfect use case for machine learning to replace humans doing this work. Or at least to greatly reduce the amount of human oversight.

[@johnpaul5241]

It's more complicated than you think it is.

[@Valyona7025]

@@improcrastinating8063 True. It's a measure that's already in place, and with the stuff they've already caught in their net, they can legitimately just fine-tune what measures they already have taken by going over it with a comb basically. It's doable. They just don't care. It's cheaper, less time consuming in the eyes of management to just get slave-wage people to do it instead. Thinking it's completely inconsequential.

[@bearoyay]

@@improcrastinating8063 Have you considered the side effects of machine-learning to be used for moderation? There are many things that can be explicit without sex, Violent without being graphic, and mentally disturbing without being able to be categorized. How do we train machines to take down content that, we deem harmful, and also have that same system not take unjustly and automatic actions against content and individuals that didnt upload anything agaist TOS? If you might, head these examples: An act of people dancing in bikini's gets taken down as the system confuses it for porn A educational video including raw meat and processing gets taken down for confusing violence An animation of fictional content which includes abstract surrealism is taken down for possibly both of the above reasons And what of content that purley states nothing but information? Someone making an address of murder publicly Someone revealing legally secret information Someone giving unproven information to cause distress an panic. How are things like this automated and taken down?

[@jaqueton3212]

@@improcrastinating8063 Well, KZbin is kinda fucked up thanks to the copyright management of the AI. Imagine what mistakes could happen if you let a robot manage sensitive content.

[@FlarGarg]

despite all the chit-chat it`s very hard for a computer to see a picture and define, is that a pornography or is it a Fidel Castro eats a banana. It is even harder to do on a large scale. Some companies like Apple are going to go trough a hash-comparing route. This will not get them far, as it`s relatively easy to have two absolutely unrelated separate harmless images having same hash, if you know the logic and the mechanism (math, basically) behind it. We`re quite far away from the time when computer would be close enough of even doing an educated guess of what`s actually depicted on the picture, rather than seeing some specific patterns that statistically is averaged about a specific item or theme. It is for now physically impossible to have large and un-biased enough base of "samples" to do full prediction.

[@guilt0825]

These jobs are also being offered here in the Philippines with very low pay considering the mental damage that employees will experience. I guess they really consider mental health and their employees as a joke

[@erlinacobrado7947]

This needs lobbyist and unionists to put an act to law.

[@nonenone2669]

Well, theres an easy solution for this..dont do that job. There, problem solved. Now businuesses like facebook have to find another way to moderate content that doesnt involve traumatizing people.

[@erlinacobrado7947]

@@nonenone2669 they're just gonna look for someone else on the labor market, in which many people are educated but with no jobs. Someone will always be found to be hired to do degrading, even inhumane labor, simply because of poverty, amongst many other social factors. If you don't take the well-paid job you applied or were recruited for, someone else will. The same is true for badly paid ones. Collective action and labour unions are necessary.

[@TheOuroborosisbroken]

@@nonenone2669 well, if the alternative is going hungry or not making rent or being unable to support your children, the option of "just not doing it" becomes fantasy. If the labor pool is huge and the offers are scarce you do what you have to do to survive. The change needs to come from the top down not otherwise

[@serendipity-1907]

@@nonenone2669 not everyone has that luxury of choice, it's either a shitty dangerous job, or starve

[@Augmental_Art]

Former content moderator here and while my team focused strictly on political content, we worked shoulder to shoulder with the guys who handled the "obsene" side of a certain social media corporation. The stuff people post is insane and it wasn't uncommon for us to come across the worst of the Internet on an hourly basis. I dont know what the corporate big wigs do with the content we flag for them, i can assume it gets sent to some government body that handles it from there, but damm. Seen some people actually break down and cry those first few weeks just due to the sheer inhumanity in some of the images we come across. Left that job a few years ago but some of this stuff just bakes into your mind forever man.

[@kellywahl2551]

Thank you so much for posting this subject. I also thank the man for having the courage to talk about this. He is very well-spoken and he described the experiences perfectly. I spent nine years conducting computer forensic examinations. 95% of them were based on allegations of sexual crimes against children. I located images and videos of children ranging from babies to adolescents being brutalized and then described that was occurring so that no one else in the legal process had to look at what had been found. One of the on-going tortures of doing this job was that I was investigating one predator. He had photos and videos of hundreds or more other predators doing terrible things. I would never know who they were, so catching one was a reminder of the hundreds or thousands that I would not be able to catch. I understand his statement about seeing a nipple and later connecting that a person was attached to it. My mind never shut down and it seemed to be constantly expanding my thoughts in what I believe was an attempt to make sense out of the horrors that I saw. Unfortunately there is no making sense of it and everything lead to deeper trauma. I could not discuss the details of cases at the time. Nor was I willing to unload the horrors of what I saw on others. I felt forced to hold it in. I am probably just regurgitating what this man said at this point, so I will conclude my response. It has been a decade since I stopped doing this work. I have received assistance to get passed this. However, there are some things that I don't think will go away. I don't go very long without images of what I saw or sounds of babies or children screaming in pain pop into my head. My insides feel wrecked and I constantly battle upset stomachs and headaches. I have to avoid any movies or television shows that show someone being victimized, tortured, or scenes of people fearing or begging for their lives. It is difficult to trust other men. I investigated men ranging from college aged to senior citizens, rich and poor, charming and antisocial, and who were from all walks of life including teachers, pastors, police officers, firefighters, and just about any profession in between. What I learned is most pedophiles are men and anyone you know could be one. If I could offer something positive from my experience, it would be to parents. Anyone could be ready to victimize your child. It could be a trusted friend or a grandparent to the child. It is important that we remove all assumptions of trust and see people for their behavior or red flags. It is equally important that we teach our children what to watch for, what to say, and to tell us about any unhealthy behaviors toward them because this often begins as subtle grooming before they are assaulted. Thank you again for this video.

[@valentinanunez3708]

Hello. Please know there are people out here like me who are incredibly thankful for your sacrifice. I can't even begin to conjure up a picture in my head of what those 9 years of hell must've been for you. I hope you find peace soon, very soon, and that you can someday finally leave behind those painful memories. You're one of the many unsong heroes of our world.

[@smartstudyingdoggo9031]

Thank you for your service to us

[@Notaravisen]

As a mum: thank YOU

[@alexarihani2902]

Thank for for why you dis to help protect children

[@sepiajoy2871]

Thank you Kelly for the work and the constant pain you had to undergo to do that. Your sacrifice is one that should never have to be made, but it is because of people like you that the world can become a littler safer. I know that that is small condolence, but I am just so thankful. My heart goes out to you and I really hope you're doing okay. Please seek out help if you haven't already

[@melmelhodgepodge3800]

I think Zuckerberg needs to work a month as a content moderator at his own company.

[@mrjdavidt]

I believe he’s aware of some of that extreme content.

[@metishan-9ol656]

man's a fvcking robot and acts emotionless asf. I don't think he'd be affected in any sort

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

@@mrjdavidt He is, and doesn’t care.

[@N8Bailey]

How about a lifetime as content moderator.

[@ArcanusMagic]

If those mods don't like the work simple write dimissions and search a new job....

[@xFENRISx]

It’s a really eye-opening testimony. Here’s what I find strange: The employee can tell us about self-harm, animal and child abuse, even murders, but they censored the swear words.🤔

[@teethgrinder83]

I don't think strange is the right word, stupid maybe. It's so the vid won't get restricted by YT I'm assuming

[@anthonyfletcher8053]

@@teethgrinder83 it’s 100% for monetization. You can literally SEE dead bodies on other videos from VICE. But showing deaths and describing it are two totally different things.

[@ExTAzY101]

Wasn't censored for me

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

KZbin has strict monetisation. Swearing lessens the quality ads channels get.

[@narxes]

It's the American way.

[@incredibleindigowaters]

I cannot really watch the whole video so I’ve stopped at 2:48.. but it is so true and without conscious awareness (unless one puts in great effort) that we are DIGESTING in more ways than just eating food, swallowing it and that being a nutritive aspect of our lives. What you see stays with you as well as what you hear and touch. Precisely why I have chosen to not continue this video. My heart reaches in a thousand directions for all of the pain felt by others, and it is too much to bare at times. Recognizing that you may not be able to handle the extremism and sheer vastness of the ugly side of all of humanity, is one step in the direction of self awareness. Let’s start practicing care for ourselves.

[@NAConen]

I say this with 100% seriousness: if human beings can get the death penalty for torturing other humans, I believe they should also get it for torturing animals.

[@redjuice02]

YES!!!

[@possesivelittlepisces6031]

you are absolutely right

[@TarotRider-t2m]

Why not give all those posts to crime investigation and put the people doing crimes behind bars.

[@SlammedZero]

Seriously, what he said about seeing dogs being BBQed alive just absolutely shatters any hope I have for this race. It also pushes my thoughts on the limits I have for my own ability for kindness, because there is no telling what kind of Jekyll would come out of me if I saw somebody doing this.

[@michcamaro71]

@@SlammedZero I’m with you on that....

[@restitutororbis1216]

Now we need an interview with Discord Moderators.

[@urgehopes3319]

You need to go to jail for that🤣

[@corsegerspwnd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJXGZGCAgruMd9k typical discord mod

[@zackschilling4376]

@@corsegerspwnd Wheres the fur suit?

[@NatsumiTakanawa]

Discord is so degenerate lol

[@corsegerspwnd]

@@zackschilling4376 his wives boyfriend was getting it steam dried

[@icyburger]

the mask he's wearing has more life than zuckerburgs weird 1000 yard stare

[@RetroPlus]

Zuckerberg has absolutely no idea what he has done to people

[@niteip187]

@@RetroPlus are you sure about that?

[@falopeantube9762]

@@RetroPlus I mean people choses this job sk idk what mark has to do anything wit this lmao

[@anarchyfork2676]

@@falopeantube9762 people choose the job believing mark has their back in this and his support. They come out knowing that it was a lie and that they were exposed to content so graphic it completely changed how they think, what they think and when they think it. Seeing it on screen can be just as bad as seeing it in person, and Mark didn't even take that simple fact into account for his workers.

[@Liam-jx4zb]

Such a disturbing mask could they not have used something less weird

[@pumpkinpatchbaby21]

If you ever see this mate, thank you so, so much for sacrificing your mental health to keep others safe. You’re a hero

[@gabrielmario7098]

not a hard job, unless you are from the crystal generation, that gets offended by everything.

[@SOA_yt]

@@gabrielmario7098 You don't think this would take a toll on your mental health? Even military and war veterans have seen "only death" and they still get fucked up.

[@motivationexquisite]

Unfortunately the job isn't to protect people. It's to protect Facebook.

[@zoe9632]

🙏

[@zoe9632]

@@gabrielmario7098 mate... I guarantee you'd last less than a week!

[@nandor6905]

I feel sorry to every single person, who's Job is this. Huge Respect!

[@xLAPPUINx]

People at insurance companies have some of the worst stories. One woman spoke of a policy to reject everyone first - they knew a lot of people died just because of that.

[@wm1573]

id love to do this i watch gore everyday anyway lol

[@yoshida7547]

@@wm1573 you really have no idea

[@user-Korpan]

you mean "Whose Job" if you're asking "who's job" Hes a character from the bible haha

[@user-Korpan]

@@yoshida7547 he said he watches gore everyday, easily equal to or worse than whats on facebook.

[@TheNefastor]

When the business you're in causes your employees to develop PTSD, your business should be illegal. Same way a company is not allowed to expose its employees to radiation or wild animals without any protection.

[@KuueenKumi]

@sweet heart who said he does? Many people have given up Facebook. It's pretty useless.

[@ducklingscap897]

Well I really want to see that shock on peoples faces when Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram suddenly become illegal. 😅

[@TheNefastor]

​@sweet heart I've never been on any social network. I simply have no interest in what other people eat, and I don't believe you need to see my naked ass on a foreign beach every time I travel. I'm also smart enough to know when I'm being exploited by a giant soulless corporation (which is why I also use ad blockers). I see the game, I see that it is rigged, therefore I play something else. I'm hoping you do too.

[@TheNefastor]

@sweet heart that's debatable. I do consider KZbin commenting to be problematic in many ways, even though it's more like a forum, with threads and moderators. I think my life would be better without it. I looked it up, KZbin is considered a social network though. But it doesn't have the concept of "friends", or any of the BS associated with the Facebooks and Twitters of this world. I'm not sure how I feel about this. Gonna have to meditate on it.

[@noemyemma9035]

A lot of jobs cause PTSD: police, military, paramedics, social workers, firefighters, etc. Its not natural for humans to be exposed to near death experiences for long periods of time but someone needs to do these jobs.

[@solace9184]

“We get dirty, and the world stays clean. That’s the mission.” -Cpt. Price