I Filed For Bankruptcy After Lularoe And Now Work 2 Jobs

Jill Domme (@jilliandommejewels) was one of 80,000 retailers who joined LuLaRoe. Consumed by early success, she is now paying off $39,000 in debt by driving GrubHub as her second job.
LuLaRoe, a multi-billion dollar company that skyrocketed to success by attracting an army of women to sell their colorful patterned clothes is now facing numerous lawsuits calling the company a “pyramid scheme.”
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Why I Left LuLaRoe and Started Driving For GrubHub

[@rosyjavier1158]

Hideous clothes. I don’t know how they sell so much.

[@woodsjaelyn4225]

Rosy Javier army wives have a hideous fashion taste

[@heathercameron1485]

They don't. Most of the purchases are from actual sellers. Most sellers end up with tonnes of ugly inventory they can't get rid of and often it gets sold onto other sellers when they go out of business.

[@2Sparrows4aFarthing]

Heather Cameron exactly! Lularoe could give a rats ass if you sell stuff on to your customers, Lularoe already got your money 💰 the LLR representative (use term loosely here) is Lularoes target market.

[@christinetran491]

@@woodsjaelyn4225 🤣🤣🤣I can verify that for sure

[@janbonne]

Makes me suspect wether that money was made thru sales or recruiting

[@tayr679]

She’s the friend you’re constantly dodging because they’re always selling something new

[@sableann4255]

yep, this is my neighbor

[@Itsunclegabby]

@@sableann4255 Time to move.

[@Shadoefax760]

That ain't a friend lol

[@kirstin1000]

She's my mom XD

[@muffintop420]

I have an old friend that has recently been consumed by the Arbonne cult. Now all she does is irritate everyone by trying to sell us stuff. It's just awful, I'm like of you need money I'll just give you money stop being a salesman instead of our friend!

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

In MLMs, YOU are the customer. You're not a "consultant/partner".

[@VA-jf5pb]

Very well said

[@ambercotton3260]

Yes EXACTLY what I was gonna say!

[@StefSoleil]

I felt bad for her until I found out she's now selling for two more MLMs. Come on now.

[@Bigchychill]

These ppl can’t get enough then they are addicted to the lifestyle of group think and belonging so they tend to just go right back to another MLM

[@DoeDonDoe]

That is crazy! This girl needs serious therapy.

[@NatschoNotorious]

Yup, she apparently never felt bad for the people she helped to exploit, aka her downline, until it was her own turn. Ugh.

[@doncagape5409]

She's now selling an mlm/pyramid scheme jewelry.

[@Droid5767]

@@doncagape5409 Woah what!

[@Untameduniverse00]

They literally look like clown clothes

[@valuecalc]

JasmineB_ , right. They're hideous.

[@tammyluu8708]

Facts 😂

[@durante-no10]

Don't do the clowns dirty like that

[@jensivers2079]

That's the perfect description of these clothes. Who would buy them and for so much money too?

[@allaboutbeebo4092]

JasmineB_ LMAOO

[@msstarlight4770]

What I've noticed, in all these 'poor me, I fell for a pyramid scam' videos, is that not one of these women mention feeling bad for all the other women that they personally conned & used to work their way up the financial reward ladder. (Oh WOW! Thanks for all the likes, I really appreciate it!)

[@pinkpink-kb6dl]

Although I think the cult like attitude of the mlm makes it so those girls rlly do believe what they're saying to others. I think most were just delusioned and didnt know what they were dragging others into. At least by being in these type videos they're raising more awareness than they probably could just locally

[@msstarlight4770]

@@pinkpink-kb6dl You make good points. Thanks.

[@rori6122]

Preach

[@grannygoes7882]

No one made them buy the clothes.

[@msstarlight4770]

@@grannygoes7882 hi, I'm not sure what you meant in your comment, when you say 'them', who are you referring to?

[@thew0rdsmyth]

I can get over her joining the pyramid scheme. But not paying taxes and quiting a decent job to professionally shop when you were addicted to shopping? That's where she lost me.

[@laurastrong2768]

The Wordsmith I thought I was the only one who noticed that too. She was addicted to shopping - got into a pyramid scheme Where her income is based on her selling & buying products. It’s the same as someone addicted to caffeine working at a coffee shop

[@shammydammy2610]

@@laurastrong2768 No, I noticed it. She found a 'job' to feed her shopping addiction.

[@melissar593]

I noticed as well. Considering her past it was a very unwise decision to take on a job that was basically shopping when she had a shopping addiction.

[@brett8460]

When she said she had to take out loans to buy more inventory, I was like, "Girl..."

[@kg8849]

MLMs aren’t pyramid schemes. 🙄 Please learn the difference between the two bc they are significant. One is illegal, the other is not.

[@powderblue2565]

As a someone who works in fashion, I must say these clothes are a crime against our industry

[@lorimontijo5184]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ericnelson9100]

Agree, remember there's a reason why they were not sold in stores. Like all pyramids they have subpar products that would never sell in a conventional way.

[@kimberlyoldschool]

And they know it, too. I buy clothes second-hand off Mercari, and every seller correctly lists the brand name in the offer EXCEPT those selling Lularoe - they’ll put other brands in the listing and then you only see the actual brand name in the photos. 😡

[@cindy5605]

And soo ugly.

[@rimpidas7489]

I was literally just thinking the same when she held up that big ugly printed dress 😭

[@tommoss5824]

She doesn’t even realize that she paid for her own cruise ... “put the money back into the business..”?! So you got tens of thousands of dollars of clothes on hand ???

[@222o-u3t]

They're encouraged to do this by their uplines.... because how else are they gonna earn their coin? Eventually, you run out of Facebook friends and family to market to - so you rely on your lackeys buying shit from the company (where you get a bigger % commission off the purchase from bigger packages) to earn $, it's far more lucrative. Therefore, the reps themselves are the company's biggest customers.

[@sarahstauffer1]

If the said company believes so much in their products, they would send it to you first, you send them their cut when it sells. Consignment like deal where the seller(the one interacting with the customers) pays for the product as it sells.. Or return it in a postage paid box provided by wholesaler.. But what's the point, if every bit of money you make goes to buying more stuff that may not sell.. You should get a FULL REFUND on crap that didn't sell..

[@dddtrump]

She mentions sales....but those sales numbers at least half is out of her own pocket. How much was actual profit in the bank every month??? Her wild claims of 10k 20k a month in sales doesnt mean shit when it amounts to 2I in actual profit. And then that profit goes to buy more trash clothes so she can buy her "free" cruise. Lolololol

[@NeccoWecco]

@@anniemacleod It's an addiction

[@underthestars4710]

Judging by her instagram it looks like she hasn’t learned very much...

[@ImpetuousPorkus]

AryaLondonGonzales I’m starting to think she’s a collector of debt and pyramid schemes....

[@noemoneytoya8758]

What’s her instagram?

[@underthestars4710]

Noe Montoya it’s in the description of the video

[@RA984U]

Her followers are fake too...how sad.

[@leahv5892]

It’s Jill Domme 03 and you’re right. She’s selling jewelry now. Another MLM scam. Very sad.

[@BMarie774]

This woman is currently selling more MLM crap. She's not a victim. She's naive. I repeat, she's NOT a victim. She gets herself in these situations by being naive, foolish, and immature. She needs to grow the hell up.

[@valuecalc]

Brianna Gordy , some folks don't learn.

[@jaredgarrison8721]

Brianna Gordy, not to mention extremely gullible.

[@blakestollman8080]

How do you know shes selling more mlm?

[@sarahstauffer1]

Wish jewelry? If she could manage her money better, it could work. But I don't know why people don't just buy directly from wish lol

[@c.a.s1900]

Whaaaattttt 😂😂😂😂

[@jennings992]

working for grub hub isnt much better than working for lularoe. companies like grub hub, lyft, uber give you cash in your pocket, it seems reasonable for awhile. Then your car breaks or needs maintenance because you are driving around so much. Then you realize that all the money you have been making is going to go back into your car. You are actually making less than minimum wage.

[@michaelhart7282]

Stin yeah it should be a side hustle, I was actually thinking about doing it but I’d save money

[@cp_digital]

ALOT of Lyft/Uber/GrubHub drivers just rent cars through Hertz, etc. You can rent a car for a week for like $300. In a big city, you can cover that cost in 4 days doing deliveries or dropping people off via Uber/Lyft. The other 3 days is profit. I know a few people that are doing this

[@sahildhaliwal5831]

#1 ON TRENDING personal insurance will not protect you if it comes out that you're driving rental cars for commercial use, and you can't register for commercial insurance on a car you don't own.

[@jennings992]

@@donkazoid how long have you been working for them?

[@faizalf119]

Go get a bloody cheap Honda and stop using the uber/lyft profit for booze and other unnecessary stuff.

[@cyoohoos]

I’m donating the last 40 pieces of inventory....you are sitting in front of MOUNDS of clothes

[@amad8466]

How do we know which part was shot when?

[@LilyR____________13]

cyoohoos she also said she was addicted to shopping. The mounds of clothes are probably hers.

[@LynnAgain83]

Right?!?! I couldn't imagine having that much clothing! Jeezus

[@nowaylaowai204]

@@LilyR____________13 Yes, I was thinking the stuff she's sitting in front of is her own personal stuff.

[@nowaylaowai204]

@@LynnAgain83 I moved to China a little over a year ago and I have only bought maybe a couple pairs of shorts and a couple t-shirts, and a couple of tanks in that time. I did well in picking out what to pack, and I'm proud that for someone who really likes to shop, I've not purchased a bunch of clothing or knick-knacky stuff. When I come home, I plan to do a closet clean out and just stick with quality stuff that I LOVE, as opposed to a closet stuffed with "bargains I couldn't pass up" that I hardly ever wear.

[@SwimSweetie100]

She should go into legitimate sales. She’d make a killing

[@Menagerie_K]

I'm not sure if she really made a killing because it appears she bought a lot of the stuff her self ie the clothes in the background but she didn't pay for the shit that wasn't inventory such as her vehicle. However, if she truly sold a bunch of stuff to someone other than her self... she should get into pharmaceutical sales... those bonuses you get to keep. They'd also take out taxes so she wouldn't have to work at Grub Hub at the end of a good sales year.

[@noeytindol5529]

Sales is usually pretty sexist. Men tend to do the best since they are hired to the well paying jobs. Women usually end up in a call center unless they are very beautiful.

[@RainyRunningRiver]

She dosnt have the skills or background.

[@ingracebyfaith]

@@noeytindol5529 there are _plenty_ of ugly women in sales... that comment "sales is usually pretty sexist" demonstrates you know nothing about sales or careers or business development _or what sexist even means_ .... have you even ever had a job to pay to keep a roof over your head?

[@noeytindol5529]

@@ingracebyfaith Somehow I think I know more than you in this regard. Do a little research.

[@princessofarchetypes3870]

Maybe there needs to be a 12 Step Program for people addicted to MLMs.

[@Isabella-xu3pl]

"I wouldn't see my friends, I would barley leave my apartment. I thought I was living the life." How does that add up??

[@mywalterego9248]

"How my bad decisions hurt me, and why it's someone else's fault"

[@amkali24]

Classic narcissism

[@brassbelle4528]

Every American’s current mentality these days...

[@r.cadena716]

THIS- she was actually very successful with LuluRose- surprisingly. All she had to do was not spend irresponsibly and paid her taxes

[@AkanniEnt]

You were addicted to shopping and filed Bankruptcy twice at the age of 34 maybe you should do some serious soul searching it's you and no one else accept and take responsibility for your actions.

[@candycane1686]

D W thanks for the advice dad

[@2Sparrows4aFarthing]

If there were any damn decent jobs out there that paid a living wage with some benefits maybe half the country wouldn’t get sucked in by these MLM shysters.

[@haveityourwayatbktoday]

I thought all of those clothes piled behind her when they were interviewing her was her leftover inventory... then at the end she took one little bag left of lularoe stuff to goodwill... it seems obvious she is still struggling with a shopping addiction :(

[@mOnika-pt6vk]

@@2Sparrows4aFarthing In order to get one of those decent jobs, you have to invest in your education. Now, I don't neccessary mean college. I wish more people would go to Technical Schools, but I'm aware that they aren't for everyone.

[@AkanniEnt]

@@mOnika-pt6vk exactly invest in yourself is what I always say

[@Armando_Brown32]

I’d love to know the number of vehicles that had a Lularoe decals at the time of repossession.

[@almightybeanchild]

That's cold bruh

[@Nicholas-f5]

9/10

[@h.r.9563]

Any MLM sticker

[@crookedchaos253]

Darth Max if you are making that kind of money pay cash omg like what

[@davidcox3076]

@@crookedchaos253 Suspect that the MLMs pushed them to buy the most expensive vehicle they could. Have to make the hunbot lifestyle look attractive to the new recruits.

[@phoebegodiva-adeniyi5315]

How do you make $150K living in Portland, in an apartment & don’t have $40k left. I think there is some pivotal deets missing.

[@shutupsavannah2195]

MLMs always tell people to reinvest profits into more and more inventory. You can see some of those unsold clothes behind her when she’s talking

[@phoebegodiva-adeniyi5315]

shutupsavannah That would reduce her “taxable” income which was noted as $150K. Taxable income is the number you use after expense deductions like inventory & things of that nature.

[@shutupsavannah2195]

Phoebe Felice I mean, based on how much financial literacy she seems to have, I’m not sure if she factored all of that in? Not sure tho

[@phoebegodiva-adeniyi5315]

Thomas Moll FALSE, that is not how it works. Especially if you own a business, you deduct the cost of what you buy, you sell it...your difference is your profit. She’s a business owner & has two ways to earn income in this case. NEXT?

[@lamingtongirl123]

Phoebe Felice it shouldn’t be that difficult to keep track of that I really think she was buying shit she didn’t need or maybe she’s just stupid like you said

[@ashleyclayborn9004]

Is she involved in ANOTHER mlm? Plunder Jewelry according to the bio/her insta?

[@jeanniemaximus]

Yeup thats mlm! I saw it on, " looks like a mlm but okay" or reddit or something....

[@ladyv5655]

Sadly, mlm people are similar to drugs addicts. Unless they get proper treatment and education, they just go on trading one addiction for another.

[@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165]

@@ladyv5655 Ah, man. fr?

[@vanessakoh8329]

@@ladyv5655 hey I think you are right. Actually, Most opinions that I read here are pretty much on who's to blame etc (I mean everyone has their right to their opinion too). Yours is rather insightful. Actually, Courtney Harwood who was on Vice as well; used to be a consultant for lularoe mentioned on another KZbin video that she has been seeing a therapist and has been moving out of a seemingly cult mentality

[@bradc7882]

Creepy stalker...

[@omeemodesigns]

I’m just baffled that anyone managed to sell so many hideous clothes. I’ve visited their site out of curiosity and man, terrible designs. They must be really good at marketing because the product ain’t it.

[@StephenSatire]

She said she has so many people that love her, but no one told her this was a bad idea? Is her support group just as gullible?

[@StreakyBaconMan]

Often women without much of a support group or social network are the ones that will fall into this type of shit, and then their social network and support groups become full of people also involved in the scheme. They make it seem like they are this tight-nit community that all have each others backs and it's really appealing to those who don't have that in their life.

[@TheSameYellowToy]

MLMs, just like cults, often prey on people who don't have a good (or any) social support group. Lonely people or people who don't have healthy relationships are a prime target for them. MLMs and cults will "love bomb" you when you're new. Suddenly, you're surrounded by tons of new friends who compliment you nonstop, believe in you, and love you so much! ...Only this "friendship" and "love" is very conditional. If you start questioning the MLM/cult or leave, all of your new "friends" will mock you and/or shun you. MLMs and cults also try to isolate their members from any opposing viewpoints. Only the MLM/cult is right. Anyone who does not support the company/cult is automatically wrong. People who don't support it are all negative, stupid, misinformed, haters, jealous, toxic, awful, or even evil people who don't want you to succeed, so you need to cut them out of your life! Your friends and family who think you're making a mistake by being part of this, and trying to talk you out of it, are all just a bunch of dumb negative haters who are only going to bring you down, they don't actually care about you like we in the MLM/cult do! And even if an MLM doesn't explicitly tell you to cut off your loved ones...their sales tactics are an indirect way to cut them off. Constantly spamming your friends and family with sales pitches on social media and turning every social interaction with them into a potential sale is eventually going to drive everyone who doesn't want to get involved with the MLM away from you...which helps solidify the echo chamber.

[@livamber202]

You can’t tell people like that

[@lkofie6670]

Right...plus whose responsibility is it to tell her otherwise, especially when she was high off "success"? I'm willing to bet had they told her, she would've accused them of being jealous or a bunch of skeptics.

[@SEOdork4hire]

It takes a real friend to tell you you suck. It's just too easy to smile and nod

[@BeeCharma]

She's on 2 different MLMs right now as of today. Some people just never learn. Filed bankruptcy two times and shes STILL out here doing the same old stuff. 🤦‍♀️I really hope she figures life out and does better.

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

You can't fix stupid. Some people will never learn.

[@morganirvine2327]

She'll be on bankruptcy #3 before 40 that's horrifying

[@shaw7598]

She’s on her path to the Darwin Award

[@cp_digital]

I want Portland Oregon white women problems... "I was just laying in bed, I had no makeup on and that's when I knew my life was over" 😂😂😂

[@AkanniEnt]

Oh boy I tell you her life seemed so hard boy oh boy the struggle got real for her 🤣🤣

[@Powertuber1000]

Portland Oregon is a hellhole of neo-Marxist anarchists.

[@ccarter509]

Lmao right

[@issatruther1031]

PowerTuber 3.0 that’s the whole world bro, it’s just that Portland is the type of place you can show your true self. Assholes are everywhere. Just like cho’mo’s (fam,friends,and strangers)

[@ProductionsHabby]

I'd love to have black male problems. Oh wait, I'd probably be dead.

[@terilynjackson2786]

I remember watching those people on Periscope and feeling like I was missing something. Some nights there would be 5 - 6 of them live streaming their "sales" and they'd be so amp'd over those ugly overpriced clothes, and each person would have at least 20 people watching and buying and they were excited too! Those live streams were strangely fascinating because the clothes were so ugly and unimpressive but everyone was so excited about them and they would sale out! I sent a message to a couple of the sellers asking about the company and were they really making big bucks pushing those overpriced Wal-Mart looking clothes. Both were very dismissive in their responses like if you're not buying something they didn't want to talk. I watched a few more times because again, it was fascinating! Like a cult were people were being brainwashed into believing those ugly clothes were the shizzle, fascinating! Oh, and the male sellers were really hilarious! There was one who streamed from a super messy overcrowded bedroom that he'd turned into his personal LLR warehouse. He acted like those awful stretch pants were dipped in gold and he couldn't contain his excitement.

[@marcyfox9508]

ppl wore those clothes, and I had to see it-I am the real victim

[@sammythestripper]

Terilyn Jackson hAaaa!

[@candacegutherie]

@@marcyfox9508 yes my eyes may never unsee this hideous attire from here and thrift stores and old moms

[@melissadurante1450]

These are fat lady clothes

[@carlrosa1130]

The problem I have with this issue is that the woman in the video (Jill Domme) was more than willing to sell, recruit and push something on other women that made her uncomfortable to start with. And although she learned it was a mistake...she kept it going.

[@Ryan-xk1of]

$150,000+ sales a year... $80-$100 a night delivering food. This lady needs to take a step back and look at the costs of doing business. I mean someone who sells real estate might do 3 million in sales a year but that doesn’t mean they make 3 million dollars salary.

[@mahbubali5502]

I go Ireland

[@Starry_Skye22]

I just reallly wish this girl would of learned but shes still selling beachbody..GIRL YOU LOST $ BC THATS HOW MLMS ARE SET UP. ALL OF THEM 👏

[@jeannineterese1037]

The clothes are overpriced & ugly. This is what happens when people buy a brand name.

[@fairlyvague82]

They really are. I’ve not seen anything I’d ever wear from this company and I’ve watched a lot of these videos now.

[@firebenderkitty313]

I've heard the quality is shit too. You can buy better clothes at Walmart.

[@fairlyvague82]

Firebenderkitty3 Lol Ikr Anna O’brian’s review with the littles holes mismatched seam at the crotch making a V shape kills me every time! 😂

[@millennialfalcon8958]

Two bankruptcies due to shopping too much and not paying your taxes. *Gif of Gia Gunn saying "what privilege"*

[@antoniov3477]

Landed like fresh tilapia.. no seriously, here’s the fish you ordered.. bwahaha

[@marlo8528]

Aww, sis has a money management problem. She needs a personal finance class.

[@marlo8528]

@SweetPhantom But she said that she had a shopping addiction before she started Lularoe, and that's the reason she filed Chap 7 bankruptcy the first time. Her mismanagement of money started before this MLM.

[@ProductionsHabby]

She has a few problems if you actually watched. None of us should have to pay these taxes. The government stands at your door and knocks for their share anytime you make a cent.

[@marlo8528]

@@ProductionsHabby I'm sure you enjoy roads, fire departments, police departments, the military, etc. Taxes pay for these things. She wasn't paying for anything, hence the car repo. Taxes were the least of her problems.

[@LM-eu8yr]

@@ProductionsHabby Dont use public schools, paved roads, libraries, police or fire services. All paid for by the American taxpayer.

[@kg8849]

She needs business class!

[@maximumdigital-9252]

Wait she’s one of the few who made money, so first off, she scammed a LOT of people. Then she blew it. So she’s just awful with money. This isn’t a victim.

[@slimydick23]

she didn't actually manufacture the substandard clothing

[@maximumdigital-9252]

slimydick23 no, but to make that money she did more than sell clothes, she recruited others to become sellers, and 99% of them lost money. Promised they'd get rich then found out nobody wants them.

[@Morbious0620]

Lol this is why I delete anyone selling this kinda crap on fb

[@issatruther1031]

Someone get her a therapist and a money manager 😩🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Sis needs help. I can’t even list all the shit wrong there

[@m0L3ify]

She's not a failure. These companies are so predatory. They need to be outlawed.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

She is. Because is is selling/shilling ANOTHER jewelry MLM currently.

[@amad8466]

They HAVE been outlawed. Trump and Co. are CRIMINALS and they've lifted every bit of regulation we've ever had about this.

[@amad8466]

@@ImNotaRussianBot Hatin the player instead of the game.

[@Orange56222]

Mary's Mother I mean we can blame both

[@GillyFromPhilly]

$25k a month in income and $48k in tax debt? Not claiming LLR is innocent, but she made her own poor personal finance decisions.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

All MLMs are selling you a dream. Not giving you a job. If you're 34 and having to file bankruptsy because of your shopping habit, you need help. Otherwise you're gonna be 44 and not have anywhere to live but you will have 65 pair of shoes.

[@ShuvaiAprilzw]

I just want to take a moment to appreciate mums out there, they really are the best.

[@minimalistinlife]

Just file for bancrupcy agin and again? Lessons learned?

[@jimmynickelz]

Worked for Tr......ah nevermind.

[@crimsonhalo13]

Maybe she read The Art of the Deal.

[@davidwicklin9943]

@@crimsonhalo13 Maybe she did. Donald Trump filed four Chapter 11 reorganization bankruptcies between 1991 and 2009 on his various businesses. He never did a personal bankruptcy or a Chapter 7 like Robert Kiyosaki did.

[@bradc7882]

@@jimmynickelz Trump never filled for personal bankruptcy...and it's weird how obsessed you are.. TDS level 4?

[@bradc7882]

@@jimmynickelz You heard one word and went from there, even though you have no idea what you're talking about.

[@janetrojas8939]

how this people make thousands and thousands of dollars and don’t pay their debts, you can literally send 30k to pay off your car, your mortgage

[@jamesni4498]

"You're On Beans and Rice, Rice and Beans and Let's Clean this mess up"--Dave Ramsey

[@davidhanson6234]

James Ni Dave all day! “Live like no one else, so you can live and give like no one else.” -Dave Ramsey

[@merd3]

...So this is the second time she went bankrupt due to a shopping addiction and this fool's out there selling for two more MLMs. No one can help her.

[@RDTheAwesome]

Atleast she is persistent and diligent in paying off her debts. She has a strong work ethic.

[@SuvrathHegde]

Nope, she's into another MLM. Sorry to break it to you.

[@peachykitten7204]

She's not paying off her debts she's filing bankruptcy so she can have them erased. She did the same thing before. That's not a strong work ethic, that's being immature enough to spend money you don't have and then not paying it back.

[@carolinegallegos_]

Filing bankruptcy is the opposite of being “persistent and diligent in paying off debts”. It’s crying to the courts to have them erased for you instead of paying them off.

[@jnunyabizio5169]

Bankruptcy twice? Ok. That's where I stopped listening.

[@aw4417]

Poor girl! She had to get a real job🥺

[@morganirvine2327]

🤭 she's now on a jewelry mlm (if you go to her Instagram in the video description) and never learned her lesson

[@gianna5642]

I've never heard of that company and the clothes are a cross between 80s/90s 🤮

[@latinaalma1947]

SO good you are out of it. You sound like you have your head on straight about what happened and why. You WILL be able to rebuild from where you are now. Just keep going in the positive direction you are going and five years will be done. You will by then be able to take this experience into the rest of your life in a GOOD way. Don't feel ashamed, you are one of many manywho get conned and played. I had a family member who got mixed up in a different MLM scheme. She was actually a RN. She had had a baby and put on weight and she very much wanted to lose the weight. She began selling a shake product etc. marketed by a MLM copany. She worked out and dieted and did start losing weight. The company is expert at manipulation, how to play on the desperation of women, their insecurities and dreams. Between signing up new sellers and gradually losing weight she felt better about herself..no one knew HOW low her self esteem must have been. Her husband tried to tell her how much DEBT she was actually getting into (buying and stockpiling the product herself) . The company did events like those you describe and told her to be successful she needed to LOOK successful. She went out and bought a sports car she couldnot afford, posted her workouts online, videos of herself getting manicures and pedicures, her car purchase, her trips. and pampering she said she paid for from her marketing profits (NO). She started working double nursing shifts all weekend , working out hard during the week and saying she no longer needed to work during the week and now had time at home (bec she worked her RN job all weekend long). She generally acted like someone addicted to her diet, those shakes, her weight loss program, the con patter spun out by that company, etc. After she racked up many thousands in debt her husband tried again to convince her to give it up because the kids were suffering from the loss of her attention. Instead of seeing the light she kicked him out. She wouldn't listen to her own parents who tried to tell her her increasingly out of control behavior was hurting everyone, herself more than anyone. After a bit over a year she had racked up over $60,000 in debt, she went to a company event out of town and KILLED herself. She must have felt so ashamed of what she had gotten herself into, the mess she had made of her lovely life.She must not have understood that no matter how bad things are , suicide is a permanent "solution" to what is really only a temporary problem. I am so glad YOU are wiser and you have survived just about the worst re your cancer and KNOW that you are oh so very lucky to have survived. That gives you the strength to see your way out. You WILL get it done and you will have a happy life. You have many decades ahead of you and this will turn out to have just been a blip in the road. I so wish SHE had seen that! MLM companies can be DANGEROUS and addictive. It can all end very very badly as it did for my family...so anyone contemplating doing that for any company, PLEASE reconsider. There is no short cut to wealth (except for founders of these companies). Years ago programs like " 60 Minutes" would do exposes on things like this. Women who had fallen for such schemes would have come out of the woodwork and there would have been action taken often including Congressional hearings. These days Congresspeople care nothing about the losses to individuals and families...they are only counting the political donations of lobbyists who represent groups of these companies. I am ASHAMED of what America has become in this regard...one scheme after another to profit on dreams of ordinary citizens and zero governmental protection. ZERO!

[@bonniewillson7364]

So sorry for your loss. Thank you for telling your story .Hope it helps others considering an mlm. My own daughter needs to get out of an abusive relationship but will need to support her 2small children. She was thinking about getting into one of these.

[@maltinamaltina2665]

She has plenty of issues, but she doesn't seem like a horrible person, so I would bet she does have friends/family and at least one trustworthy person told her it was a terrible idea, but she didn't listen. Plus there's always Google. Remember, one of the first thing MLM people do is warn you that 'so-called friends and family will be jealous of your opportunity or not understand it, and warn you against it - don't listen, this is a chance in a lifetime etc'. The problem is, she's vulnerable plus she's not very smart, and she just has no impulse control. Hard to believe, but she is still involved in MLMs. It's amazing how many people do exactly what she has done, and join other MLMs hoping to pay off debts that came out of the first scheme. The predatory MLM 'huns' love desperate victims of other MLMs: "Oh, hun, Lularoe is awful, you're so lucky you got out of it... I'm in a great business, much better than Lularoe, you will be a boss babe in no time..."

[@rhayvenj]

Out of curiosity, I tried to look her up on social media. Glad she is doing well so it seems on the surface. She still has that loveable can do attitude and she lost almost 100 lbs! Only sad thing is that she is still in the MLM culture. :/ MLMs are like a drug, it's hard for folks to leave it alone. Hopefully though she won't endure the dramas she had with LuLaNO.

[@dgossipgirl]

You were making 10k dollars a month and didn't use it to pay on your car ? What the hell did she do with all this money ?

[@morganirvine2327]

More lulaeroe crap

[@Natas_Nico08518]

I just hope she’s paying taxes for her GrubHub gig. I don’t think they do that for you.

[@Nicholas-f5]

They do keep your tips though.

[@daynasafranek7807]

The fact that people were pushed to keep buying the clothes that were moldy and disgusting and sales were not a priority should be a sign for anyone in a pyramid scheme. She is lucky she ended up with 40 pieces of clothing only. I have seen some people with thousands of dollars they spent on that clothing that people don’t want because it’s horrible quality.

[@Scorpiogirl_1029]

Once your in an MLM, the spiral starts and doesn't stop even after you leave. She's 34 and yet, she didn't learn her lesson the 1st time from what happened with LuLaRoe. So, she decided, "let me join 2 more MLMs & exploit more people for my money fix". C'mon now Jill, do better.

[@BlasianBobbi215]

One of the reasons I stopped using Facebook was because a good third of my friends list were friends and family Members selling a myriad of MLM’s. None of them were doing LuLaRoe. It was Herbalife, It works, Younique, even that $5 jewelry thing. I started getting messages about selling/recruitment, eventually getting invites to online streams trying to sell me shit. Then, what started happening was other MLM sellers that were mutual friends with my friend would try adding me, and it eventually got too much of a headache. I don’t like being rude to people, so, I just ditched Facebook.

[@wakeup7874]

Too vague like their are so many u answered questions. Like how did she build her clientele, why did her sales plummet, how did she lose her car? Where did she get the money to initially invest in lulu rue?

[@slimydick23]

it's pretty clear it showed that the clothing was falling apart and it became a big deal that the clothing was crap so her salesmanship couldn't help. As she said she was spending more time defending the quality of the clothes than she was spending actually making sales. Not entirely her fault, she didn't manufacture the clothes.

[@pinkpink-kb6dl]

I would also add bright colors and zig zag/triangle prints were pretty popular around 2012, as years go on they become uglier and uglier to the modern gal lol.

[@pinkpink-kb6dl]

Also she probably lost her car because she couldnt make payments. Yea she was making like 15k a month or whatever, but lula roe pressures its sellers to spend 12k of that on new inventory. So the next month she sells 30k, but they pressure her to spend 25k on inventory. So in the end, the amount of income for the girl at the end in this hypothetical is only 8k. That's probably why she couldnt pay taxes on 30k of profit, because she didnt end up with that 30k.

[@shammydammy2610]

Her sales plummeted when the bad press started on Lularoe, telling the world what a crap company they were. She lost her car because she wasn't smart enough to buy it outright when she had the money to, and couldn't pay the monthly payments on it and it got repo'ed. Judging by her comments, I would say she borrowed the initial investment money or put it on a credit card.

[@tayba1316]

Vice has another video called "why women are quitting lula roe". It will answer alll of that for you. Its a bit longer but its interesting. 😁

[@Kiri68419]

Love how the comment section is not giving her pity and laughing at how she's relapsed into another MLM. Some people you just can't pity, huh?

[@nowaylaowai204]

I feel bad for her. I do. But there is something else going on that needs to be addressed. I can understand behavior like this. It's being in bad relationships, but keeping thinking that the next one is going to be different, and the next one is going to be different, without realizing that maybe you attract bad guys and you need to wonder why you are doing that. I never seem to have bad luck with men, so instead of beating a dead horse, I no longer date. I'm lonely at times, but problem solved. No drama, no wondering if he's cheating, no saying anything nasty or condescending to me. I may figure it out someday, but the older I get, the more I know my odds of meeting the type of man I want shrink considerably. So I don't base my happiness on meeting a cool guy I am attracted to to hang out with. I just live my life doing things that make me happy.

[@carolinegallegos_]

People that refuse to help themselves? Yeah no. No pity.

[@justdoingmything]

I looked her up on insta and she's currently selling jewlery and nail products for two mlm companies... is this even real

[@cobracommander9138]

Goodwill is a scam. The money goes to pay the CEO. Look online and see if you can donate straight to a homeless shelter or battered women's shelter. That way people in need will get the clothes and donations.

[@tmoffatt2411]

Only option she has for bankruptcy this time is chapter 13. Can't wipe that debt clean with 7 again unless 8 years lapsed from the first chapter 7. God Bless her I know that stress will consume you if you let!

[@susandeguia6697]

I caught that myself.

[@roxycodone7853]

Even so, her tax liability is not exempt when she files for bankruptcy. She still will have to pay that $39,000 even when her other debt is discharged.

[@miaomiaou_]

As much as I dislike MLMs I don’t think Lularoe is the one to blame here. She neglected to pay her taxes, and the IRS don’t play Also this is missing so much info. The way the womens’ stories are told in the longer docu is better.

[@larrydav1d]

who would’ve rather spent 9:06 watching her cat madison at 1:11

[@amazingabby25]

Kitty kitty wasn’t interested in her lmao

[@alexbenavidez4500]

Oh my God me lol, I literally came down here to comment her cat was cute

[@elizabethwedge9136]

She lost me then she admitted it was her 2nd bankruptcy before 35 wtf

[@ruzzelladrian907]

LaLularoe’s target victims are low self-esteem women in the suburbs.

[@jappyhoy]

I filed bankruptcy and it saved my family. We weren’t able to afford food. After bankruptcy it saved us $800 a month and our credit has got better the last year. Much better. I’m sorry this happened to you. MLM is my entire upbringing. We grew up in $100k a year but because of MLM we lived off second hand items cause all our money went to the stupid businesses. I hate MLM. So much!

[@awesomekoga7848]

This is the first I’ve heard about this. My cousin sold LulaRoe. She often gave me this brand as a gift. I wear them a lot and love them. My cousin has passed & I have gotten more LulaRoe from her family. I hope she wasn’t ripped off.

[@BlondeHobbit88]

Her entire Instagram page is MLM nonsense. She really didn’t learn her lesson did she?

[@kashabrown2692]

How you make that much money & didn’t pay your taxes🤷🏽‍♀️ I don’t feel sorry for her.

[@Kyp62100]

The 10-25k she “earned” from lularoe is probably her taking out loans to buy all this stock apparel, I wonder how many sales she actually made

[@savannahnanah]

I really admire this woman for doing this documentary. Much love X

[@bsings7928]

A lot of people are saying she’s to blame for the taxes and joining other MLMs, and she is, but this is a product of a disgusting society where money is impossible to keep high and consistent and MLMs are allowed to exist. She should/should’ve known better, and these companies should be illegal. She should’ve been taught how to handle finances responsibly and she clearly wasn’t. She’s responsible for actions but there’s dozens of parts of our system that failed her before she made inevitable money mistakes.

[@photofreak56]

Its a cycle of being both the abused and the abuser. We don't teach people financial literacy in America. If your lucky you'll maybe take a class in it if your in college and its required

[@bsings7928]

@@photofreak56 that and our system is so complicated in hopes othering enough people on lack of understanding alone. And it’s works

[@aoutsky]

She looks like she has a great fashion sense - someone who would never wear, let alone, sell lularoe.

[@sharitastinson109]

This my friends is hustling backwards... you're independent in these businesses per your agreement. Also,its a BUSINESS!!

[@margyrowland]

What can I say, lots of women are terrible with money, and whether it’s a romance scam or this thing, they’re sitting ducks. Ladies, get real and stop believing in BS. Love from Australia 🇦🇺

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

LulaRoe is a messed up company for what they did to these girls. Their business model is destined to fail and I’m surprised they’re even still around. They send you RANDOM inventory. You can’t even pick the stuff you want. If there’s something that’s selling well you just have to keep ordering more and hope you get that one print.

[@angelicdazzle]

Am I the only one who never heard of this company?... 😕

[@Rosecrans27]

she took Drakes lyrics too seriously lol "havent paid my taxes im too turnt up"

[@hellooooo227]

MLMs suck, but this woman's problem is her poor money management skills. Also, who doesn't pay taxes on $150,000 yearly income, and expects to get away with it 😑

[@NunYa953]

Call me heartless but I have no sympathy for people who fell for this scam. You know that whole "if it sounds too good to be true..."

[@dimplesd8931]

How did she make $25k in a month right before LulaRoe started to unravel? I don’t believe she made $25k a month. Lots of other sites explain what it takes to make any money in LulaRoe and this would make her in the top 0.01% if she made $25K

[@toots810usa6]

The patterns on LLR clothes are all hideous!

[@katerij8549]

People that say "oh no I want to stay positive about this" when friends and family bring up the truth is because they are dodging just that. The truth. She dosen't want to face her mistakes and take responsibility for actions.

[@thetruthhurts9220]

The first ring in the beginning had me hella triggered. I thought I got an order lmao

[@prudies.3375]

You know I think all delivery people should not take a picture but a picture and a video. You drop the food off, take a pic and then start recording, show the food being left, get a shot of the house number and walk backwards to the car so they can see the food clearly still there. Then get a shot of the street name and cross street. Then you film yourself driving away. How will anyone be able to say their order didn’t arrive. If they meet you at the door, then start recording before you pull up.

[@sjnclady9068]

Proud to say I never bought a single LulaRoe product. I found their patterns hideous for the most part, and their dresses and tops boxy and shapeless.

[@kcroeder]

Filing for bankruptcy the second time? Dude you need to listen to Dave Ramsey or Graham Stephen !!!

[@kathleensmith8336]

I was addicted to shopping and had to declare bankruptcy. Oooh! LuLaRoe? Buying clothes? Ok, sounds good. Bankruptcy #2. Addicted to alcohol? Don't work as a bartender. Addicted to stuff? Don't work in a thrift store. Etc. Etc. Etc.

[@Pozorrogo]

"Pay your bills first, and your pockets last" - My mom

[@insomnia9999]

Pozorrogo wise mom

[@sableann4255]

I am pounding this into my daughters head!

[@prestonalbritton8243]

Both brilliant and so obvious we should all be doing it!

[@bradc7882]

Stupid...

[@jonsnow4927]

Your mom is a smart lady

[@Jean-qn4fy]

"Addicted to shopping." "Second bankruptcy." Honestly, it sounds like Lularoe was not her only problem. It was just gasoline on an already existing fire.

[@newdarkneoss3985]

39k TAX debt, seems she didnt pay taxes when she earned 15k+ a month. If that is the case then fuck her, no empathy from me. There is nothing worse then someone who stops paying taxes after you get a well paying job, and then crying that you are in debt once it goes down.

[@sapphirexwind]

@@newdarkneoss3985 Yeah, she couldn't have been so dumb not to pay taxes. Even unemployment is taxed!

[@HoneyD109]

MLMs typically prey on women in bad financial situations, in college / stay at home moms, and 99.7% never see any kind of profit.

[@sapphirexwind]

@@HoneyD109 I know of so many better options out there. People need to work online and from home more than ever these days.

[@luvlullaby4062]

lullaroe dose that to you they company forces you to spend and gets u addicted

[@ayzc4164]

I don’t get these women, how can you make $27k+ a month and not have a safety nest?! Omg... I would’ve paid off my car and bought a home.

[@nickkingofearth]

It’s 27k gross sales. So probably half of that net. And then these “consultants” have to “reinvest” in the company and buy more inventory. And of course pay taxes but she didn’t do that lol. But these MLM people like to flash big numbers but what they actually take home is significantly less.

[@georginacat7667]

Safety nest 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tayba1316]

I believe they have another longer video about this company and they encouraged them to look a certain way and to invest money back into company. Then the company had shit quality with their clothes so a lot of them ended up losing money because they had tons of clothes they couldn't sell.

[@lalalarebecca23]

A lot of these girls are brainwashed to “live their best life” So more people would join

[@aamandazittlau5505]

I think it also has to do with the culture of lularoe... they’re taught to push sales on others, but they also get sales pushed on themselves... lularoe intentionally normalizes spending your entire pay check on “wants”

[@Katie-t1b]

I don't understand why they all speak in terms of gross sales and not net. Gross sales mean nothing!

[@Vlad2319]

Litterally fluff. That's all it is. Fluffing the numbers

[@Katie-t1b]

@@Vlad2319 Exactly.

[@ladyv5655]

These MLMS look for people who have little business experience or who are a bit unsophisticated, financially.

[@AndreOutlaw]

I'd like to see the numbers after paying for inventory, paying taxes (which it seems she failed to do), and any other operating cost.

[@Kerrviii]

K exactly!

[@ericafox5098]

Update for anyone new: as of May 2021 she sells Red Aspen nail products and Plunder jewelry, both MLMs. I feel so bad for her. She is exactly the kind of person these awful companies prey on.

[@agnetafelicia5961]

Maybe she just learned to join early lmao Anyways, I hope she gets it one day

[@lukeyarasheski5510]

You're joking right? She is a grown person more than capable of making her own decisions. Just say no doesn't just apply to drugs

[@FluoxetinaBelcher]

Do you also feel bad for the people she continously conning just to get her "fix"?

[@wcolautti]

She’s failed to learn the lesson though.

[@pnwfavmilf05-12]

Wonder if she's read this...

[@VanessaLprincess2010]

I almost joined this company but my husband wasn’t feeling it. Happy I listened :)

[@MsAshley3105]

Right ?!? Like mine would never in a.million years like how did a lot of these women get money from there husband for this?

[@beautifulbeei]

Same 😂

[@carlamolina695]

Good thing, most of the time when you try to warn people from MLMs they get sooo offended

[@austinpatterson9381]

Right for the wrong reasons

[@saininj]

Smart man. He's a keeper.

[@DawnKellyMedia]

Her shopping addiction tranfered over to the MLM business.

[@brookem4904]

Yup that's exactly what I said

[@virginiabluebell2350]

Came here to say this . They got a golden ticket when they recruited her

[@CandaceStevens]

Those are exactly the types of ppl they target... Bored suburban housewives secretly racking up their husbands credit cards shopping on WISH & Amazon... Just like a drug dealer TARGETS addicts. To afford your addiction you start SELLING to other addicts. A company that's slinging cheap clothes needs shopaholics to buy them & turn around & sell them so they can continue to feed their shopping addictions... Sad.. These ppl need REAL therapy & NOT "retail therapy"...

[@shatteredshards8549]

As of July 2021 she's been selling Red Aspen nails and is still doing Plunder, so she has literally been hopping from MLM to MLM since VICE interviewed her. She needs professional help; she clearly has an addictive personality, and in spite of MLMs bankrupting her, she continues to dump money into them.

[@TILLEYJS]

No. She just doesn't want to work.

[@mirandataylor6385]

@@TILLEYJS MLMs are usually more work.

[@ITIsFunnyDamnIT]

My dad was the same way. he went broke and had to file for bankruptcy because he sunk all his money into pyramid schemes. He kept thinking he was going to get rich. Instead he lost well over 200k and went broke had to file bankruptcy. he didn't learn his lesson with the first pyramid scheme and he never learned, he had an addictive personality, exactly the kind of suckers these corrupt companies are looking for

[@alliu6562]

@@mirandataylor6385 Less work is the false promise that MLMs sell you. They tell you about flexible hours, self starting, entrepreneurship, and friendship, all just for a small starting price of hundreds if not thousands of dollars. They specifically prey on people who don’t have a lot of time and want to earn money quick and easy and are easily swept up by people who throw out buzzwords. So both what you and the other person said are true. People join MLMs thinking that they can work less, but in reality, they end up working more.

[@danib712]

So she wasn’t paying taxes...

[@nowaylaowai204]

I don't understand that. How can you NOT set money aside for taxes? If you run your own business, it's four times a year that you pay. So why not set aside money for that?

[@RisesFromFlames]

Yip, the whole story could be boiled down to that. She didn't pay her taxes.

[@Herekittykitty01]

Well, taxation is theft but that’s another story

[@cryptogf]

@@Herekittykitty01 agreed.

[@Zeno7741]

@@Herekittykitty01 How are you going to pay for public services or infrastructure then ? Tax is necessary

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Anyone else feel so much better about their financial decisions right now? Because I do.

[@Thats_MarieHoney]

definitely lmao Thank GOD I have a brain!

[@maliabever9465]

I may not make much at all BUT I am making it work in Southern California and this video made me feel wayyyy better

[@Lunabyrd]

Oh my gosh yes. I'm 26 and currently homeless but at least my only debt is school loans and unexpected medical bills(broke my ankle and didn't have insurance because I couldn't afford it). And my car is paid off. I just can't imagine making that much and not paying off my taxes and other debts as soon as possible. I feel for her but judging from the other comments it doesn't sound like she's learned her lesson.

[@CovertCrow]

Yes. Ive been unhappy with my 36k job for the past 6 months and these movies on lularoe really put this shit in perspective.

[@Lunabyrd]

@Honeysuckle Blossom I agree. I did say that judging from the comments she hasn't learned her lesson, some people just really think mlm's will make them rich, and I guess it does work for a small few but most just get scammed, sadly.

[@GinaMazzola]

"I have a bankruptcy lawyer that I used before" tells you everything you need to know about her life choices.

[@lotusgrl444]

👍😅 bc one hard lesson was apparently not enough

[@Jeminiw1969]

Life choices? Didn’t President Trump declare bankruptcy?

[@lesliaisonsdangereus]

How does she have all her spreadsheets, work an analyst job, and somehow let it slip she needs to pay taxes? I mean, MLM is a scam, but come on woman.

[@natanyaparsons8491]

I was part of an mlm for a bit and they make it known that you need to pay taxes if you made over 600 I believe. She definitely knew.

[@camilahernandez5861]

HawaiianStyle what is MLM?

[@lancsroddl3131]

Camila Hernandez multi level marketing

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

Newdark Neoss I mainly feel bad because she said she had breast cancer a few years back. I’m soft on people who’ve had cancer

[@recklessmermaid]

@@natanyaparsons8491 I saw on a different LLR video that they have tax laws in the states that make it tricky for sudden high earners, because they have to pay taxes quarterly and if you don't, you're fined. but most people don't pay quarterly taxes so they don't know that until its too late.

[@girl123interrupted]

She was flexing about making $150,000 a year but couldn’t pay for a lady to do her quarterly taxes? Huh? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Tamarocker88]

She made 150k total sales a year. She didn't actually earn $150k. Regardless, she's a moron for not having taxes taken out of her earnings.

[@simonejt8060]

I was wondering if the amount she made was her gross or net pay? If it was her net pay she was making a killing in the beginning she probably should’ve made as much as she could,and ran out as soon as it hit the fan. She could’ve paid off the car she got repossessed and had a little bit saved up to pay her taxes. But I guess you just don’t think when you’re in the thick of things. SMH

[@Tamarocker88]

@@simonejt8060 As I already said, she didn't make 150k. She sold 150k worth of product in the first year. Her personal earnings were significantly lower since she had to pay for her inventory of clothes in the first place. She probably made like 30-40k of profit before taxes.

[@simonejt8060]

Tamarocker88 oh ok I see. So she basically made enough to pay her taxes. Smh

[@Tamarocker88]

@@simonejt8060 bingo. That's why pyramid schemes should be avoided. First problem was buying the bait. Second was not paying her taxes. Third was investing in a failing business by taking out a loan.