Old vintage tractor..will it run after many years? - Vice Grip Garage EP43

This old Minneapolis Moline M602 tractor has been sitting for a long time. It only makes sense that I go unprepared to work on reviving it after many years. Do you think it will start? This old tractor has lots of character, and sure gives a guy a big fight! It clearly needed an ignition rebuild, but of course, I didn't have all the parts. The updraft carburetor also needs a rebuild. Who do you think will win?
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[@darinsitko998]

This is a fantastic reminder of why I'm addicted to VGG. Even though all of the new content keeps me hooked, I so enjoy the classic episodes like this one. God Bless!

[@matsuyamarockers]

“People are afraid to fail... You’ll never know unless you get out there and try” Warmed my blood pump.

[@ZGryphon]

"blood make-it-happener", surely. :)

[@rev9fan1]

Same here, you mix humor, with ASMR, and a touch of life lessons, and you have a recipe for the greatest youtuber of all time.

[@afella1129]

a guy wasnt prepared for that little speech there at the end

[@bubbie3533]

I know right.

[@zephead843]

Yeah, that hit me where I live too. Derek's doin' the Lord's Work, one sparkolator at a time.

[@Canadiancarguy1987]

@@zephead843 LOL Well said man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Derek is the man !!!

[@jaredfarney675]

A Guy choked up a little bit

[@augustwagner5462]

A guy kinda got hit hard deep down in there by dereks speech.

[@atypical_moto]

I was really looking forward to seeing you make the 3 hour drive home on this bad boy after a good burnout 😋

[@benblake4448]

Omg, I literally lol'ed

[@thisguycalledalex]

I too, am disappointed.

[@kevincrisantemi1891]

I'm A city fella but every summer as a kid id go live out on my aunt's farm in the country...they had a 1948 John Deere tractor(I forget what model...it was big! 😂) still in service and it was the late 80s...first thing I ever learned to drive lol they gave me an old broken briggs and stratton riding mower and a tool set to tinker with....suprised my uncle's when i figured out how to get her running again...took the blades off and all that stuff and used it to get around the farm to do my various chores....she had 18 horses ...fun times!!!!

[@BanCorporateOwnedHouses]

The descriptive whistling gets me every time.

[@stevenlpkr]

My brother had a MM M670. spent quite a lot of time working with and on that beast. He's passed now, and the farm is gone, but seeing these old tractors brings back memories.

[@edzimdahl1158]

Dad's favorite tractor, a MM UB diesel,, one year started loosing coolant, Pa said think it's head gasket, soon as we're done it's rebuild time for that one, of course as soon after done filling silo started fall plowing, after milking one nite thought got enough time to finish that one field, in my hurry didn't top radiator, made one round and it made a pop snap noise,,, and stopped, walked home told pa we unhooked plow dragged it home to the shop,, 2 days later picked up a 1066 with a 5-18 plow, took me 6 months to find a head for the mm ub diesel,,, but Dad kept the mm ub right up till we were done farming, in fact it was the last piece of machinery sold

[@LAactor]

That voiceover at the end was so amazing. Kind of reminds me of that Bear outdoors guy mixed in with a little Bushradical. Where they say some positive words to encourage a guy who's down, down on his luck. Can't believe I waited so long to see this. Revivals will still be my favorite. Even if they don't turn out to be happy endings. Life's like that. Doesn't always work out.

[@thomas7529]

Ah a trip down memory lane. This was the very first video of yours that I watched many moons ago, back when I first started getting into car KZbinrs. It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come.

[@tedstanford2690]

You brought back many memories of me working on my dad's 8 and 9 ford and jubilee . Many times the line from glass bowl to carb would clog up. Thanks for the memories. I am 70 now.

[@chrisjacob1530]

“Your never guna know unless you just try, so get off your butt, get out there and start spinning wrenches” spoken like a good man and a great dad

[@johnnyhernandez7561]

You gave it a valiant effort most people would not have even attempted to tackle on such a huge project, so i give you two thumbs up my brother👍🏽👍🏽

[@MatthewBieri]

Yin & yang, that’s the beauty of life.. Solid episode my cousin, doing me a proud

[@ViceGripGarage]

Thanks Matt - miss all ya'll over there!

[@glenholmgren1218]

IrishStew That is success - gettin’ shut runnin’ is just gravy, eh. Cheers from yer inbred, mouth breathin’ cousins From CANADA 🇨🇦

[@PlanetMojo]

I just reworked my 51 Ferguson. I did a 12-volt conversion but otherwise had all of the same problems. Rebuilt the carb, cleared a clogged fuel line, replaced a leaky sediment bowl, etc. They sure are sweet once you have them dialed-in and running though 😊

[@safetymikeengland]

I love VGG and I love MM tractors. This might be my favorite VGG episode ever.

[@gilbertnowak5770]

My Dad used to say "If you don't fail, your not doing anything"

[@forwarddrive4066]

I like that. Simple but yet true👍

[@austin-1973]

My dad always says ''don't do nothin don't do nothin wrong.''

[@gilbertnowak5770]

@@austin-1973With that attitude I would NEVER get anything done in My shop!!!!

[@vf19blue]

There is another saying I flick my daughter when she has got the shits with something that didn't work out well the first attempt. " A master has failed more times than you have tried"

[@johnnyhernandez7561]

My dad used to tell us kids, nothing ventured nothing gained You have to fall to learn how to get back up again, and God knows i have fallen plenty of times, but Thank God He's Always been there to pick me back up and try it all over again😁😁🙏🙏🙏

[@fredclements6843]

I don't know about everyone else on here I love to see a MASTER at work!👍

[@DD3512B0Y]

Love the end speech mate, very true. Good vid

[@ViceGripGarage]

Thanks Mike

[@Shovel1978]

Loved this. My father taught me how to use a clutch on my Grandfather's old Ford tractor out in one of his pastures in Eastern Washington when I was about 10. Have had a soft spot for old tractors ever since.

[@anthonyhengst2908]

My Grandfather had an M602 it ran ok but it always sputtered some especially on cold damp days. Uncle Gary was a mechanic and he couldn't completely get it either. I remember him cutting a rubber glove to cover the distributor cap. Once it really warmed up, it was great.

[@drewshepard8002]

Oh man. That speech at the end. Got me off my butt in an instant.

[@ViceGripGarage]

excellent!

[@allfamilyimportanddomestic8508]

Love these old tractors got no use for one but buying one tomorrow was my pops an ol 52 Ford

[@bravo2aviation]

You need to start selling shirts that say “well I’ll be dipped”

[@marccres6619]

I will take 2 dozen of them please

[@kameronstout4847]

10/10 would definitely buy

[@jfv65]

Yep, a guy would but that.

[@staind288]

And the back say, yep, she's factory!

[@jamescollins8873]

Hey, I 2nd,3rd, and 68th this suggestion. Would have 69th also... but would have got a blown rod or something apparently... sign me up for 36.8 of them.

[@camperjack2620]

Way I was taught, you use about 1/4 to 1/3 third throttle, no choke, spin it over and as it spins, pull choke out, it will fire a couple times and you push it in half way to let it start, then idle it down. Of course, you are in the middle of a rescue mission and having other issues. Loving watching you work. Everybody has different tricks, I am appreciating watching.. I had a Minnie Mo, a great beast. It was very reliable.

[@Monster404ftp]

Love this. It reminds me of my great grandpa's old 1950 Minneapolis-Moline model U tractor.

[@mistered9435]

My 1953 MM UB gasser had the same trouble. Your fuel line needs to be primed. Loosen your gas cap and maybe crack the line fitting at the carb. It will stay primed until you run it out of gas again

[@justinstearns9723]

It’s gravity fed. It should fill itself with no issue on that alone. It’s clear he’s got either a blockage in the line or the float needle isn’t working right.

[@mistered9435]

Justin Stearns Mine did this with new fuel line, sediment bowl, and a rebuilt tsx67 carb. There was no blockage. If it ran out of gas, it acted just like a vapor lock, and gas would not flow from the sediment bowl to the carb until I loosened the new gas cap and the fuel line fitting at the carb. Then, gas would flow and fill the carb bowl to the proper level. I tightened the fitting and gas cap, and everything worked properly for months until I ran it out of gas again. Rinse and repeat.

[@justinstearns9723]

Mister Ed Huh. I’ve never ran into that with my Farmalls or my Oliver. I doubt it’s just an MM thing, but I can’t say I’ve seen that happen, unless the gas cap vent was bad or something.

[@lubesEquipment]

I've seen that problem on the 60s Molines.

[@rightwing2287]

Sounds right. I thought maybe a rotten fuel line with a pin hole leak causing it not to prime but you're probably right

[@callenjohnson81]

Guy is hilarious... plays like a dope but he's overflowed with mechanical knowledge

[@Rideca74]

😁👍🏻

[@WatchWesWork]

Nothing I have has spark or brakes. But they've got plenty of oil leaks!

[@ViceGripGarage]

Haha.. i hear ya

[@mutationbuilder3446]

If you have good equipment and its not leaking oil then its not running

[@ViceGripGarage]

🤣🤣

[@andyreid7274]

If it aint leakin theres no oil in it!

[@tomschweikert9537]

@@andyreid7274 are we talkin about harleys or triumphs?

[@randyfox6747]

I love them old tractors, miss being back home and driving my dads old 1940 Farmall A

[@CharlieB195]

Back in the 70s my brother in law had a U model, a 602 and a 670. The 602 had a 5” stroke so he did a 6” stroke kit on it. Made it close to 70hp like the 670. All three were propane. I ran them a couple years. Had some great times doing the farming thing.

[@georgeklavins1175]

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it. " W. C. Fields

[@FeArhsma21]

I really like what you said at the end of the video, that was pretty amazing! God Bless you my Friend...

[@ViceGripGarage]

Thank you 👍👍

[@Timberland1963]

I chuckled when he said get out there and start spinning wrenches. I'm in Edmonton, Canada and it's minus 30 C outside right now and I don't think I can spin a wrench fast enough to stay warm. Much better to stay inside and watch a few more of these older episodes and avoid the frostbite situation.

[@thomasrivest5843]

I had a 1958 Ford work master it was great. Aways started. one time it sat for 6 months and it was -30 degrees jumped up on it and it started right away. They made good stuff back in the day

[@CustomDigitalTopFuel]

Wearing a CASE ballcap while working on an old Moline :) Irony at it's finest or is it?

[@ViceGripGarage]

😉😉😉

[@jamiemorgan4146]

Maximus Decimus Meridius ...maybe you just figured out the problem ! These old girls can get mighty jealous !

[@ckmudmowers140]

Jamie Morgan yes sir🙏🏽😂

[@colinkrueger3320]

mid episode: "a guy should never stand next to a tractor while starting it" end of the episode: *funnels 2 stroke into the carb and cranks on it

[@infoanorexic]

'e's gonna have a problem trying to start an old sidewinder John Deere then

[@vimsi]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 great comment

[@button-puncher]

LOL! And I'm guessing many guys did it in the past considering the ignition key was sticking out the side by the carb. File this under why women live longer than men.

[@reallyjustrandom1230]

I don't know much about cars or tractors but I love watching people work and them and love your video's you keep me interested and love the sense of humor!

[@stevemitchell238]

You got to love when someong cross threads a plug hole runs them in any way!

[@shorebilly7063]

Didn’t know a guy knows his way around the agricultural equipments. She’s factory

[@stevesimpson9347]

He's as handy as a pair of Vice Grips !! 😎

[@keithhurd3]

Just Mint, right?

[@zephead843]

If it's got sparkolators and a whirligig, Derek will get her goin'.

[@TedBishop1]

pronounced FACT-TREE HAHA

[@dickjohnson1158]

That’s why a feller’s got a service truck

[@grantfletcher3265]

"Auto eject clamps " Love it !!!

[@JCPaintGuy]

“Get off your butt, get out there, and start spinning wrenches.” That’s great, Derek!! I love getting out in my shop and getting dirty. I introduced that to my boys at a young age, and they both decided to go to tech school. One is an aircraft mechanic and the other is an HVAC tech. We love trades work at our house - guys like us will always have a job!! Thanks for all the great content, totally enjoying your channel!!

[@kirk467]

The M670 is what I ran when I was 15 years old working with the farmers here in the Louisiana rice fields! It was diesel!

[@TheFordguy85]

A feller’s gonna win some, and he’s gonna lose some... main thing is to keep on snippin’ and snaggin’ til a guy gets ‘er done

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

I remember driving an MM on my Baba's Farm in the early 1970s. I was about 12 yrs old and got it stuck pretty good along a Slough. I loved the Hand Clutch it had, compared to the Foot Clutch of the McCormick

[@johnjones4825]

A trick that works for me (never tried it with an up-draught carb, but it should work) when you can't be bothered to remove the air cleaner to put some juice in the throat (or if its fuel injection), hold a fuel soaked rag in front of the air inlet of the filter...

[@thablue2g]

One thing I love is that through all the laughs I still learn something else every time. I'm planning on going to school to be a diesel mechanic next year. My day will be split between high school and the diesel mechanics school

[@tomtheplummer7322]

Rule #1. Never check a diesel compression by sticking a finger over an injector or glow plug hole. You’ll lose at least up to the first knuckle of a phalange. 😳

[@SR-gt350]

I like his ballast resistor he had hanging around the lightening maker

[@jeremyunderwood3512]

Anyone else say "heeyaaaa" everytime when crackin bolts loose or reefin on something like a guy?

[@timostrom5710]

i do that on top of the "errrr, click" ave torque wrench sound.

[@tomcleghorn4005]

Yep a fella is starting too go back in old videos! Love it

[@marvincarter870]

Sometimes things just don't want to comeback and go to work. Derek you gave it a good shot and nothing to be ashamed of for sure.

[@briangill6219]

Swap out that steel line between the carb and the sediment bowl? They tend to get crusty....

[@aussiezx3017]

i was thinking same thing way he didn't think of this he seem crap in bowl but didn't check the line why he should know crap would ran the line over the years. i bit cheese off he gave up this so easy he need go back check fuel line i bet it fire up my clean the carb again as crap from line draw back in.

[@neilmurphy845]

@@aussiezx3017 And he didn't pull off the pipe I don't think he knows anything about tractors or at least there air filters which is just oil .

[@outtatime.4607]

Finally got to watch this video. Your words at the end were a great reminder to keep trying! I enjoy all your videos but that really resonates! Thanks for making great content!

[@cherylmartin4050]

My Uncle Bob had a '65 Rolls Royce silver cloud had twin carbs and points. I cut my teeth on setting points with feeler gauge and ear tuning. Pretty cool seeing the distributor in action.

[@domingogarcia4953]

oh man cant wait till this drops

[@evhexrc1765]

Can’t wait to see you race dirt oval in the Monza! When will you do that?

[@ViceGripGarage]

Race is tomorrow! .. vid..... month maybe?

[@evhexrc1765]

Awesome! Good luck and be safe in the old thing. Looking forward to watching you win!

[@forwarddrive4066]

@@ViceGripGarage most definitely be watching the Monza run dirt track. That's my thing. 👍🏁

[@scotttilbert8141]

I love the pause to take a gander at all those chainsaws stacked up.

[@deanwhitaker5211]

Derek you tickle me every time when your putting things together and you say you use old lawn mower oil or old lawn mower gas that’s been setting for a couple of years lol. God Bless my friend keep up the good work 👍👍

[@rdmccun]

"cut my finger all the way to my hip bone" LOL!

[@VRCM_Skywarn_XUSA]

When I was a kid... I didn't draw tractors. 🚜🌾 I drove them...and repaired them. You're supposed to shoot the can covering the exhaust in the air as you start it up. 🔥💥💨

[@OpasJDGarage]

1/2” 9/16” & 5/8” - so comforting, fella always had about 12 duplicates of those sizes.

[@mycontinental3611]

Grew up,In Hugo Minnesota.Had an Oliver 77 Tractor. And an Ford Tractor Those were the days.

[@LukeTheJoker]

What a beautiful old girl, wonderful to hear it run.

[@Krisb193]

Cant believe i havent found your channel before. Greetings from a Fellow Minnesota Motor Head. Even get some tractors too. MM is a GREAT tractor. I have a friend from high school that still uses a lot of Minneapolis Molines on their farm today!

[@ViceGripGarage]

that's awesome, keeping history alive

[@duncan4358]

This guy always brings a chuckle to this old Pa. guy. Thanks for the videos and keep me coming.

[@raymundbrown2644]

had a 445 with hydro-static drive that I rebuilt in Ag Tech class back in the 70's. At that time, it was one of the fastest tractors on the road. Loved that one...

[@williambremner9022]

A Canadian guy living in Singapore sure pulls a ton of joy from your vids. Loved that little thought at the end today. Thanks so much. Raisin' a cold snack to ya brother!

[@dcw1540]

Glade I found your channel.farmed.all my life have 17 old tractors you are right up my alley.thanks again

[@mitchelkane2641]

I love Minneapolis Molines grew up watching them

[@AC-pm7sn]

"A feller can never have enough chainsaws" that killed me lmao

[@staind288]

Yeah it hit hard when he showed about 150 of the same make and model on 2 huge shelves lmao

[@rickscott4114]

You got to have a backup

[@justinstearns9723]

He ain’t wrong.. I keep 4 in my truck at all times 😂

[@staind288]

@@justinstearns9723 😲

[@justinstearns9723]

Gotta have one to get the one unpinched that you pinched trying to get the other one unpinched. Aside from that you’ve got a 75% chance that at least one will start.

[@danm2422]

Quality wiring job on that rig lmfao!

[@watsisbuttndo829]

How can an item have so few wires and so many botched repairs?

[@Roberto-oi7lm]

How about a 90 degree elbow, some mounting flanges and a bit of welding to make an adapter for a generic side draft carb or even a 180 bend for a simple down draft carb? It would take some fiddling and a re-design of the throttle/choke linkages, but it would work if a guy were really determined to get the old girl running again.

[@randr10]

On those old Marvel Schebler carbs, there's not much to replace on them anyway. I bought a new one for my Massey because it was cheaper than getting a kit, but I ended up with a second tractor and it needed a carb as well, except that one was seized right up from having been filled with water for a few years. I took my original carb from the other tractor and boiled it in lemon juice off a tip I got online. That thing came out looking brand new and worked just as well as the new one did when I bought it. Lemon juice ate up all the varnish and gum as well as the rust, and no parts needed replacement. No float sticking, no running rough under power starving for fuel. It just went. That started out as my parts tractor but it ended up being overall in better mechanical shape so I swapped all the good stuff over to it and ran that one instead.

[@randr10]

Forgot to mention, smelled like lemonade every time I started it up after that too lol.

[@rooster0290]

I would like to hear what happened with the Moline M602, from the son of a MM collector! Your red service truck got me! I spent countless hrs in my dads red ~1957 1 ton Ford service truck, Straight 6 with enough room to stand between the fender wells and the engine! VGG Family has great content! I stumbled on your channel a few yrs ago, then got too busy. Reconnected a few wks ago and got hooked and subscribed right now. This vid is very nostalgic to me. Born and raised in Minnesota (almost ND), my dad started collecting and restoring Moline tractors in the late 70’s when I was 10. I spent countless hours wrenching and tinkering with him, going on road trips to extract MMs from tree rows, sheds, you know the deal. He’s still hard at it. My first engine he let me wrench on was a ‘20s - ‘30s gas powered one cylinder kick start Maytag washing machine motor. After that outboards, lawnmowers, snowmobiles and cars.

[@brandonlink6568]

I had never heard of Minneapolis Moline before this video so I had to do some digging. Their factory was off of Minnehaha & Lake and there used to be a huge rail yard with a train turntable right next to it on Hiawatha. The turntable was removed in the early 50s, their factory was knocked down for a strip mall in the mid 70s, the sprawling railyard shrank over the decades until it disappeared entirely in the 90s. Now it's all retail shops and just a single rail line, but I'm sure the neighbors prefer it that way, I couldn't imagine living next to a rail yard in the age of steam. If I ever find myself in need of a tractor I'll be looking for an old MM.

[@billnboo4u]

you know a guy might look up that pretty little blonde girl that fixes them knows more than a guy thinks

[@timostrom5710]

dude! i said the same thing! i watch her sometimes. she isn't quite as funny as vicegrip, but she really knows her tractors.

[@poweredbyford87]

What channel is that?

[@mwgrc]

Your right, the ol generator has shellac and rust in gas tank from sitting for three years so I got some rusticator 3000 from Harbor freight so I need to get out there and turn some wrenches, thanks for the pep talk

[@VAHOSS]

In my world, that style carb is called an updraft. Intake manifold leaks and valve leaks will make them near impossible to get running

[@chris-thumper7205]

Love this! You can actually "smell" this video. Brings back good memories.

[@mistermacgray]

I'm a vintage McCulloch chainsaw guy, think he would ever get rid of any of those old macs? Man that made me jump out of my seat seeing all of those just stacked on the shelf.

[@KeepingItKeith]

It has a really soft "I'm gonna strip and ruin your head" feel. 😂😂

[@ViceGripGarage]

🤣🤣😱

[@adambassador7727]

There's wisdom in those final words - you're doing the goodly works. Nicely done. Keep on keeping on!

[@Mighty-Quinn]

We have a M602 Diesel, and there were only about 1700 of those made. Doesn't run right now, but we are looking at overhauling it soon.

[@gwarfle]

I would hazard a guess that the bad feeling that you had when trying to remove the spark plug was actually the socket dragging against the head. Need a very thin wall plug wrench for many old tractors!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Some beautiful tractors in that barn @ViseGripGarage

[@chasiu75]

You sure can hit a guy in the feels at the end.

[@fambam1666]

Love the channel. I was born in Minneapolis This channel brings some memories. Got aunts uncles cousins in deluth, Litchfeild, Dassel mn. Thanks for videos. D. From Ca

[@ericallred9289]

Beat on like a cabin screen door ! Those old marvel schlieber carbs , thier is a good reason for that large knob on the main jet ! I lost a good tap in the bottom of one on a 58 Oliver 550 once, most of that stuff on a tractor (factory stuff) like fuel , oil pressure gauge tachometer is not completely needed maybe

[@Onewheelordeal]

Gotta love a rig that puts the rad cap directly upwind of a guys face

[@Dailmuchachin]

I had an old CASE tractor for awhile awhile ago . It was a nice old unit having been manufactured in 1955 though It was unreliable with the starting and running. Eventually, I went whole hog with a new carb and despised the price but there really isn't any way I would have been happy otherwise as it went like new afterward and was worth it. Seemed like it quit using fuel afterward instead of gulping tank after tank so that was good. Hard to say if there is another workaround considering the updraft thing. I suppose a propane carb is about as much as I had to give for a new Offenhauser 1bbl or whatever it was. It was a long time ago but I will bet I could have bought 2 four barrel Holleys at the time, but I didn't figure they would work upside down to draft correctly. Been years since I thought about that.

[@jmequineservices4766]

Those glass bowl pet cocked can plug up some. Jet a little compressed air to back flush them. However the will get bad enough to require changing out sometime. Who’d think gravity fuel could be so complicated?

[@wiserman100]

The no water in the RADiater is good because it'll warm up quicker without all that water.

[@superhet7281]

This feller really enjoyed the ending. Great cinematography.... and great advice! ....never heard of Minneapolis Moline before....I guess maybe they weren’t popular here on the Right Coast....

[@paulcalkins9031]

Old tractor find is definitely my favorite to watch

[@franksgarage8551]

Even a tractor! Yup! I love the old iron. Got a couple 50’s machines here, i enjoy firing up the old stuff.

[@scotthendrickson9693]

Never be scared of failure it turns into strengths and knowledge

[@MrJackanand]

Can so relate. Done this countless times on ancient tractors. Although mine had a lot more cursing involvement.

[@kevinpaul5605]

I used to have a G900 she was a hunk of iron. Good old tractor

[@42lookc]

Thanks for the pep talk at the end , Brother. You can't win 'em all. God Bless... PS: If she's still there, go back and take the gas cap off and blow compressed air back up through the fuel line into the fuel tank. I'll bet the line's clogged. I had that different times with old gassers.

[@tomlippincott4752]

Retired and not a sales rep but watching you have an issue with that sparkulator reminded me of when I was wrenching for a living, we came across a can of Kroil, probably out of your price range but that stuff works harder than you do. I never promote anything but if you are going to keep playing in rusty relics you should get some of this shit it works! 👍👍👍

[@ViceGripGarage]

Thanks Tom

[@normanhunt2484]

I’ve never seen someone add so much humor to a project. Your knowledge is awesome but I have to keep backing up the video cuz I’m laughing so hard. Thank you for your great videos. I believe we are two brothers from another mother. Peace my friend.