The AMD Athlon was my first AMD CPU ever. In 2001 I upgraded from a p3 450 MHz to an AMD Athlon running at a whopping 1.4 GHz, it had more than 3 times the CPU performance, it was an amazing CPU that could beat the lower end pentium4's.
@REPOMAN247227 жыл бұрын
in 2001 I upgraded from a p1 166mhz to an Athlon 1300.
@Slinkoguy7 жыл бұрын
I did exactly the same, except that i had a 1200 and overclocked it to 1400. Good times, it slayed Max Payne. That P3 450 was a CS 1.6 beast though.
@ondrejbrandejsky55926 жыл бұрын
Slinkoguy p3 at only 450 can run cs?
@jamezxh7 жыл бұрын
I love your Dedication to Retro Builds . Good Video and fantastic job bro .
@sedrosken8313 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I find it interesting that you're benchmarking a Katmai PIII. I guess this is a more *fair* comparison given both machines are running their L2 cache at half-speed, but Katmai's SSE implementation left much to be desired (each 128-bit op is broken into two 64-bit ops, cutting effective speed in half compared to later uarch's) and unlike early K7 which had a lot of headroom, Katmai was hitting a clockspeed wall due to the 250nm process shared by the Deschutes PII. Though I guess both are limited by their hard-wired half-speed divider on their L2 cache -- K7 classic kinda cheated to hit higher clocks by shifting to a one-third divider for the L2 for as I recall the 800MHz model and onward, leading to an interesting situation where the 700MHz Athlon can usually beat the 800 since the L2 is clocked higher. I also wonder about whether someone could possibly make new goldfinger devices. They don't look incredibly complex, I bet the most uncommon part there is the connector that fits onto the card-edge on the top of the Athlon.
@Storm_.6 жыл бұрын
The heatsink on the Athlon is pure geek beauty =)
@Rouxenator7 жыл бұрын
Cool video, and great to see Phil giving some input. Keep it up.
@HistoryVM7 жыл бұрын
It's a good video comparison. I like it. However, I would suggest a screenshot of those benchmark result layed on top of the video to see the numbers. It's kind of hard to see it especially on software like SiSoft Sandra. Otherwise good job. =)
@Aranimda5 жыл бұрын
Intel Pentium Tree (No offense, I'm Dutch as well. It is great that you make your vids in English to allow for a worldwide public to understand them.)
@victorbart5 жыл бұрын
I'm TREEggered by this comment!
@FirstLast-we8cb5 жыл бұрын
He speaks English better than most! :-)
@Dosgamert7 жыл бұрын
Nice endcards Victor! Love it!
@soylentgreenb7 жыл бұрын
I would like to caution against socket A. Back in the day, it was easy to find power supplies with >30A on the 5V rail. Modern ATX PCs don't use 5V as much and a 1000 W ATX PSU can't necessarily run the socket A system, because it might only be 20A on the 5V rail. You've got to be a bit careful with socket A. Socket 478 is easier.
@ambigousBarrel6 жыл бұрын
I can relate there, had a nightmare trying to find a PSU for my Socket A machine! :)
@microphonology28303 жыл бұрын
My gaming computer is a Pentium iii 1400Mhz Tualatin aka The King I have a Qdi Legend Advance 10T motherboard and 1.5Gb Ram and a 120Gb SSD.... runs on 1575Mhz stable Windows Xp Sp3 Boottime 16 Sec from power on to Desktop Graphics card currently a Geforce 7800Gs 256Mb Fallout3 runs smoothly Antialasing 4 Anisotropic filter 6 1024x768
@nashcomp3 жыл бұрын
You have a good agp card bro
2 жыл бұрын
Good, god
@tarekmahmudbhuiyan73687 жыл бұрын
Feeling very nostalgic at the moment man. Thanks for reminding me my childhood.
@zyrgle7 жыл бұрын
Athlon was preferred by gamers, but I use what I can get... and that's usually a Pentium III, a 3Dfx Voodoo3 3000, a 512mb stick of Kingston RAM, a WDC 7200rpm 40gb HD, and a Sound Blaster. 440BX chipset motherboards don't fall off of trees around here, so I use Intel 815E or Via Apollo Pro 133A ones... like the Asus P3V4X. Thunderbird versus Tualatin next? ;)
@davidjohnson81227 жыл бұрын
zyrgle doodoo
@simonriddick7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Takes me back to when I was building pc's and benchmarking in 1999 2000.
@kacpreusz99115 жыл бұрын
*WHY DOES THE PENTIUM 3 HAVE AN AMD FAN?*
@victorbart5 жыл бұрын
:D
@traxxasftw2 жыл бұрын
I personally use both AMD and Intel, with favorites in both camps. I am very grateful that AMD stepped in to compete. We the consumers benefit from this, after all, in the end. Athlons were often cheaper primarily due to their arrival into the CPU game later than Intel, which was already well funded and established as THE go-to brand name. Having a lot to prove, AMD really stepped up their game with the Athlon. Sometimes, they even outdid Intel. They were the first to 1Ghz for example (if memory serves.) AMD also had some cool offers. I was able to get an Athlon before release and below retail pricing with the AMD partners program (plus free swag) because I worked for Best Buy. I always thought this was so cool of them to do this for retail workers. I loved them both, but AMD really won me over on the customer appreciation side of things. Performance-wise, AMD and Intel were neck and neck back and forth many times. Sometimes, this was due to software optimizations favoring one or the other. But when it came to value, Athlon was bang for the buck the winner hands down time and again. Take the Pentium 4s, for example. Netburst was buggy and ran hot, plus there was the added expense (and assorted issues) of RDRAM for Intel exclusive platforms. Even when competitive, the Intel winners were typically not intended. The best values involved aftermarket motherboards, better cooling solutions, and overclocking (like the 300a for example.) Nowadays, you cannot go wrong with either solution, however, I lean in AMD's favor in light of value and performance. There are also potential issues with Specter/Ghost which impact Intel more.
@AxiomofDiscord7 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a AMD fan on the Intel chip.
@BigJoshGaming7 жыл бұрын
You are quickly becoming my favorite KZbinr.
@vonhapen17 жыл бұрын
That beard... :D Great video, especially the side by side benchmarks.
@lightdark287 жыл бұрын
the Athlon and PIII were generally pretty competitive depending on the version (Katmai < Slot A < Coppermine < Tbird < Tualatin) the main problem with the Athlons is the cooling, as the chip is significantly hotter and more power hungry than the PIII The other, lesser problem are the chipsets, VIA's chipsets were not that great compared to Intel's , although the AMD "Irongate" chipset for Slot A wasn't bad.
@Erik.Lundberg7 жыл бұрын
lightdark28 Coppermine was faster in some situations but not generally faster. "For content creation applications and games (in most cases), the 1GHz Pentium III is faster than the 1GHz Athlon. Whether this is because specific SSE optimizations or because of the full speed on-die L2 cache of the Pentium III depends on the particular game and/or application, but for the most part the Pentium III will come out on top. Things change once you enter the professional graphics arena, where the Athlon completely dominates provided that it is paired up with a KX133 motherboard." www.anandtech.com/show/500
@JunkieXXLde7 жыл бұрын
VIA's chipsets weren't that great, but they where decent enough to have a stable system. And you are right AMDs downside was (is) the powerdraw but back than this didn't matter. Standard cooling kept them in normal thermal range. What bothers me is that noone seems to point out to the costs: This comes out of memory but i think my colleque payed 850 for his PIII 600 back then while i paid around 300 for my K7 550 (+25 for a goldfingerdevice 700Mhz overclock). Back then Intel was no option for my limited buget.
@sebastianrenners574111 ай бұрын
Hello, why is the slower Katmai 600MHz FSB 100 used and not the Katmai 600MHz with a FSB of 133MHz?
@PatientXero60710 ай бұрын
Because FSB doesn't matter when it comes to the PIII Katmai. Both are still held back with the 1/2 speed 512KB L2 cache.
@sebastianrenners574110 ай бұрын
@@PatientXero607exciting So you think that the FSB 100MHz version is as fast as the FSB 133MHz version? There won't be any differences there?
@lemagreengreen6 жыл бұрын
Loved my Athlon 650. back then, great time in PC history with such rapid performance increases in this period and of course affordable high performance 3D accelerators too.. gaming was great back then.
@Ironclad17 Жыл бұрын
A great time for PC enthusiasts, and it's looking like we might see a return to such competition now.
@commodore128d67 жыл бұрын
Ironic, that the P3 has an AMD fan :D
@ccanaves4 жыл бұрын
You have to enable Super Bypass mode on the BIOS of the K7 Pro
@3DfxAslinger7 жыл бұрын
I have a PIII 550 Katmai here that runs with 616 MHz (112MHz FSB) and a Cache latency of 1 without problems. It has become a new thermal paste. Also with the standard VCore of 2.00V. The 600 Katmai has 2.05V. I would say, that the L2 Cache of the cpu is the problem. Also check the latency of the l2 cache with the tool Wcpul2. How fast (ns) are the cache modules of your 600 Katmai?
@dyter4247 жыл бұрын
Will you make a full build with the Athlon? Something like a 1999 dreambuild.
@djuroue7 жыл бұрын
i just played "clive barker's undying" on my intel celeron tualatin 1200mhz with 3dfx voodoo3 3000 and enjoyed the whole night. long live retro gaming!
@chriswilson93317 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Cool videos man! Really enjoying them.
@davidjohnson81227 жыл бұрын
Chris Wilson intro shows a bobblehead
@magnigallo48557 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@lenamatoi7 жыл бұрын
WOW GREAT VIDEO!
@ArturBernardoMallmann7 жыл бұрын
It started much further in time. We had one old k5 in middle of 90s, and was a direct competitor for the pentium's.
@rickross28387 жыл бұрын
good times, i started with a k6. :)
@soylentgreenb7 жыл бұрын
+Artur Bernardo Mallman The K5 was -not- a good match for the pentium. edit: I'm sorry, I think the 5x86 and k5 have melded into one processor in my mind over the years. The K5 was very fast for its clock speed in integer-heavy code, but as soon as you booted up quake or some other FPU heavy game the pentium edged it out; not nearly as badly as I seemed to remember (I was probably thinking AMD 5x86).
@1967KID7 жыл бұрын
love it you took me to the good gaming days q2 w00t nice video I still got all my voodoo video cards.
@pt83336 жыл бұрын
I remember overclocking my P3 700 Mhz too 133 FSB. It was running at over 900 Mhz. The cpu fans were loud as a starting jet. All combined with the Asus Geforce V6800 and a beautiful 19” Belinea monitor.
@deviceatt26056 жыл бұрын
imperial.shredded.pilot Right I was excited when baytail aka Xeon based Pentium was realsed but AMD basically killed it with black edition being the same performance vs efficiency for fractional cost.
@Neffeps5 жыл бұрын
kinda late but I used to run my Celeron 466 at a 100 MHz FSB, which gave it about a 700 MHz clock. It ran loud as shit but was way faster than the usual 466 MHz, especially in XP.
@blastshieldaddiction7 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your videos I now have to build a AMD retro build. love your shows!
@medallish7 жыл бұрын
I had that Thermaltake cooler! Damn, I really miss my old 650MHz K7 :(
@DiggOlive7 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see some of the game footage comparison in real time, at least a few seconds.
@Vara913916 жыл бұрын
I prefer AMD Athlon XP with Voodoo 5. Pentium 3 with Voodoo 4. Pentium 2 with Voodoo 3. P1 with Voodoo 2.
@larsenmats7 жыл бұрын
The Intel Pentium III 600MHz Katmai was the highest clocked Katmai CPU from Intel I seem to remember. I actually had one of these and seem to remember I too had bad overclocking luck with it. However, the Coppermine changed things alot with regards to overclocking. A PIII 600 Coppermine will easily do 800MHz or more with the right motherboard.
@johannesg84394 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great video, great structure! Keep it going.
@badge_bad32117 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to replace the windows 98 icons???
@stackerliew5 жыл бұрын
You mean the startup splash screen?
@DxDeksor7 жыл бұрын
Did you try the tape method in order to overvolt the P3 ? Also, I know that the Abit BH6 can increase the wait states for the L2 cache. Can't the P3B-F do that ?
@Samopal.VanoZz Жыл бұрын
Ah.. dream PCs. Early q3 times. I jumped on that train later.
@lacrimfanaccount7 жыл бұрын
The Intel Pentium III is cooled by a AMD fan
@WizardNumberNext7 жыл бұрын
a lot of details are not shown directly to public, but datasheets provide almost all details. EG AMD K6 is equipped with 20KiB PreDecode Instruction Cache, while K7 is equipped with 24KiB. While K6 PreDecode Intruction Cache is released to public, K7 PreDecode Instruction Cache is not released to public and it took a lot of research to find out size of it. Same goes to ChipSets. AMD750 have a lot of features, which are not widely known and even wikipedia comes short of information. AMD750 is just cut down version of AMD760. AMD750 was a way to push Athlon to market.
@chip1gray5 жыл бұрын
I am glad im, not the only one cable tieing his fans to Pentium 3 coolers
@pantzman6 жыл бұрын
The Athlon was great, but it was impossible to find a PC with other then Intel CPU because of Intels iron grip monopoly.
@eduardoavila6466 жыл бұрын
Robert Jensen It depends on what country you live. Here im brazil amds were like colds, everywere! The pentium 3s were too rare, and a bit more pricy.
@SpicyBloodBean Жыл бұрын
I am curious if you used a Katmi or coppermine Pentium 3 as both were available at 600mhz in slot 1 configuration
@Protoking Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking but what PIII? I have a 600Mhz Katmai and I know it’s worse than Coopermine at nearly all programs but my mind must know. Also the Athlon also had a slot cpu that came first slot a I believe
@Protoking Жыл бұрын
It was a Katmai I can’t believe I missed him say 512kb L2 in the vid
@SUCRA3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, thanks, nice head shot! =D
@JohnAmanar7 жыл бұрын
Nice test! Great video! ^_^
@charonunderground85967 жыл бұрын
I have Athlon 550Mhz in Slot A. Very good processor. At that time AMD kicked ass Intel
@victorbart7 жыл бұрын
Nice! will probably also run at 700mhz :D
@McElgerTV7 жыл бұрын
Ohh my if i have back in my life this times when i was young adult playing all that great games. Now games isn't feel the same like then (at least not all).
@mdd19634 жыл бұрын
I had a Slot A Athlon 650, and, a a Coppermine P3-600A oc'd to 828 MHz... (the Coppermines were faster, but, the older P2/P3 processors were indeed manhandled by the Athlon.
@andychicago82953 жыл бұрын
Slot CPUs were the best!
@nicholaswilliams11977 жыл бұрын
I see that AMD fan on the Intel cooler, you naughty man you!
@REALSlutHunter5 жыл бұрын
This episode was sponsored by Binford, for Al Borland Clone xD
@feliperocco80527 жыл бұрын
Good video, Hugs from Chile. My nick in the TPU forum is deflipe
@SahnouneKhaled6 жыл бұрын
the pentium 3 600 Mhz was my first PC ever
@zaphodb7775 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... wonder just how fast he could have pushed that Athlon on stock voltage.
@FirstLast-we8cb5 жыл бұрын
Good video, even better beard.
@georgez88597 жыл бұрын
Very good, Thanks for Sharing
@D3monL3A17 жыл бұрын
can you do a video of the fastest p3 vs the fastest equivalent athlon
@connchri6 жыл бұрын
Cyrix MII Forever!!!!!!!!!
@FatalityOCC5 жыл бұрын
I wonder, which one will be faster IPIII Coppermine 700 or Athlon 700 ?
@pishia11045 жыл бұрын
The Coppermine core enabled the PIII to outperform the early Athlons clock for clock. The Thunderbird Athlons then came and outperformed Coppermine Pentium IIIs.
@Erik.Lundberg4 ай бұрын
@@pishia1104 Read the Anandtech "Intel Pentium III E "Coppermine" (Slot-1)" review. In the final words they say: " Overall, the Athlon is still the faster chip on a clock for clock basis. It is also the cheaper chip on a clock for clock basis."
@CyrilRizzolacyrix7 жыл бұрын
yes on this date i have a Pentium 3 the War betwen AMD And intel continue now in 2017.today ryzen AMD against Intel i7
@michaeldavis94227 жыл бұрын
Is that the coppermine variant of the Pentium 3? Intel closed the gap between P3 and AMD with that version.
@3DfxAslinger7 жыл бұрын
No, it's the fastest Katmai Core. On the end of the 250 nm process.
@Erik.Lundberg7 жыл бұрын
Michael Davis Then after a while AMD released Thunderbird to beat Intel again.
@stoffe99k7 жыл бұрын
What music is this? Catchyy
@ivanalvian71577 жыл бұрын
I have a slim pc amd phenom x4 quad-core power supply240 watt and my 4gb ram mempuyai little problem I have difficulty choosing vga card for my pc please help me
@ondrejbrandejsky55926 жыл бұрын
ivan alvian gt 1030
@icupid697 жыл бұрын
What's a scusi card?
@zeroangelmk17 жыл бұрын
It allows you to use hard drive that have a SCSI bus (which allows for faster data transfer than IDE hard drives of the day)
@madmax20697 жыл бұрын
zeroangelmk1 I think he is poking fun on how he pronounces SCSI. I wouldn't have said scoosi
@Erik.Lundberg3 жыл бұрын
Is Super Bypass activated on the AMD system?
@warrax1113 жыл бұрын
Slot 1 option is better. The reason is, you find it easier, cheaper. You can use Pentium II with unlocked multiplier in it, and underclock it to 266 Mhz or even lower. You can use Slotket adapter, and use socket 370 Pentium III, including Tualatins. You can get 1.4 Ghz, and overclock it to 1.5 + Ghz. So you have much more flexibile platform. Also, Intel chipset is more stable, and more compatible overall. AMD had problems at beginning, including with drivers. Now it's better, because drivers are matured. But in 1999, situation was much worse. This chipset problems lasted till KT400 basically, but KT266A was already "fair". Problematic were ones up to KT133 (without A). Note to mention, that in times, when first Athlons came out, there was no Pentium III 600 Mhz, only 550. 600Mhz version came out in August. So AMD had advantage of better performance, with 600 Mhz Athlon first 3 months. Also, Pentium III have almost half TDP. It's MUCH better to take Pentium III, cause it get less hot, draw less power... and overall, you can use smaller/quiter cooler on it, also thanks to better temperatures, usually lasts longer... which is very improtant factor for retro components. I would take Slot 1 system over Slot A, anyday, it has much more advantages.
@microphonology28303 жыл бұрын
Yes the king is the best choice... 66 to 150Mhz Fsb 693 to 1575Mhz I play fallout3 on my Tualatin 1400 @1575 with a Geforce 7800Gs 256Mb
@warrax1113 жыл бұрын
@@microphonology2830 Actually, you can go 133 Mhz to ~1700Mhz (I can overclock Tualatin till 1700). 133 Mhz is 66FSB x2. You can switch Processor easily on Slot 1, basicaly like RAM. So you can underclock it to Pentium II 400, which has unlocked multiplier, and downclock it to 2x multiplier, and lower FSB to 66. You can even disable L2 Cache, so you'll get basically "Covington" Celeron 133 Mhz. :) It should equal about Pentium 133 MMX on Intel TX 430 chipset and with 512 KB cache, in terms of performance.
@microphonology28303 жыл бұрын
@@warrax111 i have a qdi Legend advance 10T s370 board... with pc-133 sdram... over 150mhz fsb the System Crashs
@microphonology28303 жыл бұрын
@@warrax111 with a old slot1 motherboard i have no agp3.0 4x support 🤷♂️
@warrax1113 жыл бұрын
@@microphonology2830 I've tested it on QDI SynetiX 5EP, s370. I've tested it on 1.3 Ghz Celeron Tualatin, which has 100 FSB. I could go up to 132 Mhz, don't know why, on 133 it even doesnt post (maybe some protection on Celeron, to overclock it this way?). At 130x13, it was around 1700 Mhz. I think Celeron at 1.7 Ghz, should outperform Pentium III at 1.4 Ghz, as it has only 256 Kb cache, instead 512kb cache. In games around win98 era, 256kb cache is enough and differance from 512kb version is not very big. I have also QDI Legend advance, but 10E version. Which should be very similiar. As far as I know, it doesnt have overclocking in 1mhz steps, so there is only jumper setting, for 133 and next step is 150 Mhz? I don't remember it, and I am lazy to take out that mb and check it out. Maybe, on SynectiX 5EP , you would be able to find max FSB, around 144-145 Mhz, than Pentium III Tualatin would be around 1.5 Ghz, and could be faster from 1.7 Ghz Celeron.
@AISirClasses Жыл бұрын
can you change that clip where AMD label fan shown. Alease put some white sticker over the AMD L,
@bartjuhhh64166 жыл бұрын
hoi victor ik heb 2 dozen van moederborden vol met hardware gekocht voor 10 euro en ik heb daar een 3d fx microHISCORE pci kaart liggen heb je misschien intresse
@victorbart6 жыл бұрын
stuur even bericht op facebook!
6 жыл бұрын
Cirix Baby!.
@soylentgreenb7 жыл бұрын
You're not going to get a battle between AMD and Intel on performance. AMD is mostly catching up to Intel and Intel doesn't have any means to seriously improve their performance. It's just going to affect price.
@D_2_da_K877 жыл бұрын
soylentgreenb you understand that these chips are from a day when amd was actually better than Intel right? amd was running it with the athlon x64 so much so that Intel had to resort to bribing oem manufacturers to use the Pentium chips.
@donaldtrumpet41117 жыл бұрын
ryzen is not beating intel in every single benchmark but on some they are absolutely obliterating team blue. clearly this is just the start of AMDs optimization
@soylentgreenb7 жыл бұрын
You understand that I'm responding to his comments about ryzen, right?
@soylentgreenb7 жыл бұрын
Ryzen isn't seriously outclassing intels octacores at anything except price. SMT is slightly better on ryzen and single core IPC worse at same clock. Intel isn't holding back some massive performance reserve. You're going to see the same 5-10% from "i7 8700k" that we've seen each time.
@Erik.Lundberg7 жыл бұрын
In the end of 1999 the situation was different. AMD had much faster CPU:s compared to Intel.
@msnhuvi187 жыл бұрын
nice...!!!!!
@GreekSIMRACING7 жыл бұрын
i want my Voodoo Banshee back!!!!
@si46327 жыл бұрын
no no the voodoo 2 in sli
@ilikeanalpoopoo34417 жыл бұрын
i still have that card laying around with a ghetto cooler on top xD
@fscSimonetti7 жыл бұрын
nice pena que aqui no Brasil e raro achar essas peças
@victorbart7 жыл бұрын
sim, eu tenho muita sorte de encontrá-lo ainda aqui na Holanda. Mas mesmo Athlons slot A são raras
@fscSimonetti7 жыл бұрын
sim muito legal parabéns pelo seu trabalho e excelente canal aqui ate mobos boas pro socket 478 são raras eu to agora com um athlon xp 2600+ e uma 6600gt com 1.5gb corsair xms quem sabe um projeto com intel 486 mais adiante
@OrbitalSP27 жыл бұрын
no mercado livre acha fácil. Comprei alguns combos antigos lá bem baratos. P3 e P4 tem aos montes. Cpus da amd slot 1 devem ter bem menos.
@fscSimonetti7 жыл бұрын
mas no caso esse athlon e bem raro pois se não me engano ainda ele é slot a estou meio em duvida se faço minha coleção mas de vez em quando compro algo no caso to aprendendo a manutenção pq dai facilita pra comprar as peças
@infinityretro69107 жыл бұрын
надо было на ядре copermine
@mperu997 жыл бұрын
So maybe AMD should have went back to their roots and ask, what did we do back then to gain ahead.. to make Ryzen gain ahead.
@hellowalkman45067 жыл бұрын
mperu99 ryzen is alright. there are still software side issues as it is new
@mperu997 жыл бұрын
Oh i get that.. I have been a AMD fan since the AM486 days, but i have ran intel and cyrix and via as well. , but as i came to price/performance, and my pocketbook, AMD was the way to go. I have never been one who had to have the TOP of the line right away.. so I am just trying to get a feel if going from my current FX8350 to A Ryzen 1700 or 1700x or 1800x worth it..
@hellowalkman45067 жыл бұрын
mperu99 totally !!
@bloxyman227 жыл бұрын
+mperu99 How is it not ahead when the 1800x beats or matches the 1000+ dollar cpu from intel that it directly competes with?? Or even better the 325 dollar 1700 does that as well when overclocked. Of course it will do worse in quad core games just like how the 6900k is slower as well and that is in games optimized around intel core cpus while also being crippled by a bug in windows 10 scheduler. Things will change drastically once these issues are solved and next year we might actually see a few games that run better on the ryzen than even the 7700k. Either way makes no sense to even really compare it with the 7600/7700k anyways, since that is what the ryzen r5 is supposed to compete with.
@IceDaemon7 жыл бұрын
nice show down :)
@markarca63605 жыл бұрын
The only drawback with AMD Athlon at that time is that they generate more heat than Intel CPUs.
@melvd34845 жыл бұрын
The Pentium III's advantage was also the rockstable BX-Chipset on many Mainboards. The new Athlon had some trouble with some chipsets and also was more sensitive with cheap PSUs. But the Athlon was great. I loved how it kicked the PIII's ass. ;)
@lolomo57874 жыл бұрын
@@melvd3484 this is true. I have the same p3 600mhz intel and a athlon 500 back then. The athlon 500 kicks the p3 600mhz in the ass in terms of performance. The only drawback on amd is the insane heating issues.
@warrax1113 жыл бұрын
@@melvd3484 That is completly true. I would opted for Pentium III system. I opted for AMD k6-2 500mhz super socket 7 system, and man, we had so many problems (with chipset drivers, some games and programs refused to go, lots of crashes). Cooling was easier on Pentium, it was like 30 W TDP vs 50 W TDP. BX440 chipset was rock stable, one of the most compatible and stable system. We had also lots of crashes here and than, or crashes into systtem from games... terrible decision to go with early VIA chipsets. If I know so much as today, I would for sure put everything into BX440 motherboard, even though they were most expensive, and rather use little slower Pentium III CPU. Instead of AMD k6-2 500mhz, we could go for Celeron300A with good BX440 motherboard, and overclock it to 450 mhz. That would in FPU intensive application much faster than 500 Mhz amd k6-2. Celerons were already cheap in 1999, so it was much better option. We could also upgrade to Slot 1 Pentium III later, while because of that stupid super socket motherboard, we could not upgrade , AMD k6-2 500 Mhz was basicaly highest. Very bad decision. Intel was better option in that time, stability is more, than 10% speed. Now, for retro computer, it is still advantage... more stable,and more compatible, and also, very little heat (around 30W), also cheaper. No, Athlon is not winner, in my eyes, but Intel.
@salvadorguerrero22575 жыл бұрын
You should have used the i815 chipset to run de benchmarks, i440 is not recommendable for P III
@FatalityOCC5 жыл бұрын
For the Katmai and Coppermine 100FSB it is best
@Protoking11 ай бұрын
i810 No AGP slot on any boards that use that chipset.
@salvadorguerrero225711 ай бұрын
@@Protoking Yup I was wrong back then, it had to be an i815, i820 or a VIA Apollo Pro 133
@si46327 жыл бұрын
i had a k6-2 550 with a GeForce ddr and it scored 2500 on 3dmark 2000 not bad for such a shit cpu lol the GeForce was a beast would probably score 5000 with one of them cpus
@pleasedontwatchthese95937 жыл бұрын
Should have done Ryzen vs a 486
@ilikeanalpoopoo34417 жыл бұрын
i love your accent :D its funny
@SUPERBOBESPONJA10006 жыл бұрын
windows 98 SE seems allriii... wait windows xp icons? What?
@KarikM065 жыл бұрын
Unofficial service pack
@Mrhellacat2 жыл бұрын
Epicc
@trashtronics17003 жыл бұрын
All tests with that sort of hardware age I'd say take with grain of salt hardware degradation is a thing
@alejandromoran45902 жыл бұрын
It's a thing, sure... but when it comes to performance it's not noticeable at all
@Protoking11 ай бұрын
If the parts are similar in age that are being compared (and what are you doing if they aren’t?) then there isn’t anything unfair going on.
@deletemonsanto4 жыл бұрын
need help call Dr. Green Thumb
@madmax20697 жыл бұрын
scoosi, assus
@Vald77r7 жыл бұрын
Вы бы ещё тетрис протестировали.
@bakla_zhan3 жыл бұрын
Athlon is an excellent processor, which is better than Pentium 3 even with SD-Ram, but it really reveals itself with DDR memory
@user-mm9sh7op2h11 ай бұрын
Gordon Freeman says this guy has no knowledge
@angryhrajecznow6387 жыл бұрын
what? 100 mhz pentium is better than 600mhz amd,really(yes)
@ButterBradb7 жыл бұрын
Angryhrajecz Now ever heard of the Athlon fx?
@ButterBradb7 жыл бұрын
the athlon fx line of cpus you pleb, you don't know much about x86 history from the sound of it
@ubbgn7 жыл бұрын
U know that floating point processor is still a processor?
@Erik.Lundberg7 жыл бұрын
Angryhrajecz Now Maybe read some reviews? Athlon 600 kicks Intel 600:s ass. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-processor,121.html
@ondrejbrandejsky55926 жыл бұрын
i just saw this comment and im crying how big idiot im was 1 year back
@Joyousmicor7 жыл бұрын
Remake that video. Where is hello?! QUICKLY REMAKE VIDEO OR YOU WILL BE BANNED FOR 1 DAY!
@jetpil0t7 жыл бұрын
Why? PC benchmarking for literal hobos.
@davidjohnson81227 жыл бұрын
Jetpil0t bobblehead
@knightraider1103 жыл бұрын
I have been using computers daily for over 25 years and in my opinion Intel has always made the better cpu:s. More stable, more compatible, and less hot. AMD were cheaper, yes.. But cheaper is always a compromise.. AMD cpus had less margins, they run the cpus too hot and i have had more trouble with AMD systems in general.. Intel is the way to go for best performance and stability.
@ivanjeremic39873 жыл бұрын
Ok fanboy just take a chill...
@Promilus19843 жыл бұрын
Oh well, so how new intel performs now? Because my Zen2 is chilling even with all cores loaded with BOINC, I read somewhere new intel reaches 98degC under load... well that's the mythical stability, compatibility and efficiency ;) I guess you missed Pentium 4 completely as well...
@valrond3 жыл бұрын
I have been using computers daily for over 35 years (I started in 1986) and in my opinion AMD has always made the better cpus. I could continue, but you see where this is going.
@knightraider1103 жыл бұрын
@@valrond AMD fanboy..
@TechGamer-pq1gu3 жыл бұрын
AMD and Intel have practically one-upped each other over the years I would recommend either of them depending on the needs of the user. Pentium 3 and Athlon/Athlon XP were neck and Neck of each other but the Athlon 64/X2 would own the Pentium 4/D both in performance and heat as Pentium 4 and the Pentium D ran HOT AF. Then Core2duo\Quad and AM2 Athlon\AM3 Athlon II\AM2Phenom\AM3 Phenom II would go Neck and Neck again one is only slightly better than the other in some scenarios. the Core i series is where Intel would leave AMD in the Dust for Over half a decade until Ryzen came along and now 2021 the role is reversed again as AMD has a slightly faster CPU and uses less power and therefore produces less heat. I have been a computer Tech since 1985 and both companies had their fair share of trouble over the years and both can be unstable and will have issues depending on the combination of your hardware heck Intel has had so many security vulnerabilities now that there is probably more to come this year too so simple answer don't be a fanboy and don't be biased.
@Sonu6667 жыл бұрын
AMD has sucked ass for decades 😂
@ButterBradb7 жыл бұрын
Sonu03785 Amd was faster on almost every bench ._.
@Erik.Lundberg7 жыл бұрын
Sonu03785 "Athlon's superior architecture makes sure that Intel's flagship Pentium III is beat in almost any benchmark." www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-processor,121.html
@joeygreathouse30297 жыл бұрын
"AMD will run circles around that Intel, just go AMD" Best advice I was ever given haha