Victoria 3 1.8 Migration Is BROKEN! (and I used it to build a HORRIBLE country!)

[@OneProudBavarian]

You will be oppressed and you will LOVE it!

[@mrnobody-unowen]

Unamerican Activity 😡

[@tonysoprano..-]

Make another RP series and my life is yours

[@Potential-idiot]

When will victoria tweeks update be out?

[@derekskelton4187]

@@mrnobody-unowen And yet it might as well be a government run by McCarthy

[@efulmer8675]

This seems rather on the nose lol.

[@Meanietube]

This actually makes sense if the SoL in the home country is worse than in target country even with discrimination considered

[@therealcnado]

I’d actually argue this is more historically accurate to ignore discrimination factors

[@Antimonum]

This is historical. Most migrants were discriminated against, even west European like Irish and Italian.

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Well, they were doing even worse in their honeland so there is that xd

[@DonPedroman]

Even Germans faced discrimination at some point

[@vortex_1336]

I would say "second class citizens" is more accurate. The US was never an ethnostate.

[@macizogalaico]

not for lack of trying...​@@vortex_1336

[@Alexander-z6x]

That fully depends on timeperiod, area and culture you came from.

[@Chummbo]

This is the type of Vic 3 content I love

[@cantalope6980]

Penguin 👀

[@Txaba77ongame]

chum, what a bout a video like this but actually midmaxing every single thing. Like making a powerblock so u can get migration trait

[@kenneth5355]

@@Chummbo maybe stop using the 1.1bn cluckbait 💀

[@vihankrishna9644]

chummanomics bois

[@duphasdan]

Chumm is getting ideas. I hope he tries this, but by building tall as Macau or Luxembourg. See how many people he can stuff in a one province nation.

[@xyzlucifer786]

Should have gone for industry banned for the insane buff for the aristocrat investment pool contribution and because it adds to the hellscape xD

[@astrono_mologist]

"How do I turn you racist?" -OPB to Karl Marx

[@Hotasianchick]

OPB when he finds out what Marx thought about the Chinese, Indians, Blacks and Jews:

[@theorixlux]

Ah yes, Anatolia... Otherwise called southern Serbia

[@idontlikerome2744]

Well rightful serbian clay

[@XXLPIakat]

I can't believe you remade modern day America.

[@PoopsackJackson]

The US is one of those vicky natons that's just too much fun to go extreme with. I loved my luddite no migration anarchist isolationist US. we all starved but we got to look cool while doing it

[@edgeman1135]

At this point any new patch is more likely than not to break migration once again.

[@Maric18]

more historical immigration patterns though irish and italians were hated

[@Gulitize]

500h and I didn't know you needed a traderoute, always thought I just needed an interest in the region.

[@singuto]

Why did nobody tell me you meeded trade routes to get mass migration. I feel so dumb, thx for the info

[@akittycat2448]

The most entertaining part was seeing how Alaska kept changing its name for unknown reasons

[@HanakoSeishin]

Alyaska is a transliteration of its Russian name Аляска, and it's silly to have it in the game, seeing how the common English spelling Alaska is just a different transliteration of the same name. What next, a regime change is gonna change it to Aliaska to signify how a proponent of a yet another transliteration system came to power? BTW, this y/i doesn't actually stand for a separate sound (and that's why it's not present in the common English spelling), and instead for the preceding L being soft, which means for a consonant to be pronounced _as if_ followed by an /i/ sound, but in Russian consonants can have this pronunciation without actually being followed by an /i/. American American company was hilarious though.

[@SamuelLavoie]

Encounter that bug, too. I was playing Canada and got mass migration from India, and all these people were discriminated against and starving. Backward.

[@tonglu3699]

Trudeau, is that you?

[@justjesse4276]

@@tonglu3699 my exact thought lmao

[@r.lr.l]

I mean is it a bug if it mimicks real life lol

[@SuperExplosivegames]

​@r.lr.l my thoughts exactly! I didn't even know it was a bug until I heard from the community it was

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

When I played as the EIC, I constantly kept getting Balkan and Circassian mass migrations to my southern states. Turns out the discrimination right now is also bricked for some people or not modeled correctly. You have the Ottomans committing genocide level atrocities against Balkan ethnic groups because of the Jizya tax modifier and their acceptance rating.

[@RealPeoplePerson]

Seemed silly and unrealistic until I was reminded of the millions of migrant workers going to the Gulf states to enter what's essentially slavery. 😔

[@fidmid]

Played Finland and formed Scandinavia while still being a vassal of Russia. Shit was cash, had over 100 million people live there and got all the advantages of russian market while getting all the cheap labor necessary

[@duphasdan]

I would like to see something like this, but as Luxembourg built tall. Or even as Macau and take in a metric ton of people from China when the usual revolts happen.

[@floridaman4073]

Just did this but as Argentina. Ended up with Catholic-Sunni-Hindi dominated state.

[@资深老司机-u1r]

Will debt slavery better contribute to the hellscape?

[@aephos.overwatch]

Yes

[@MatthewZzzz0]

I remember seeing a video where they made the United States with Yankee and African American primary cultures awhile back. Would that make integrating African states quicker?

[@RiverHorse01]

Oh my god, theres a lens to see if a state is integrated? I've been clicking through each state to see if its integrated or not...

[@Alexander-z6x]

You forgot professional army to liberate the chinese, so they can migrate too

[@Daniel-sj2hq]

I’ve run into the issue of during a usa run i literally couldn’t outbuild the population coming in to the point i have an sol of 12 that has literally been the same level from about 1840 and a population of 50 million and gdp of 40 million in 1863

[@Bretonic]

It would be lovely to see this same run on the new 1.8.3 patch, just to compare.

[@pikachuf0dder937]

Oh a nice historical USA game, cool

[@KnownNiche1999]

This should be incentivised in the game. Every government did it at the time. Instead we have a game where doing thigs that even in the 21st century are highly controversial os not only politically possible but overpowered, because it is a 21st century liberalism simulator in the Victorian era

[@donaldpetersen2382]

I have 5 mil just sitting in Texas and I don't even own the Mexican part XD

[@nikodaemon]

Did he used any graphical mods here? the paper map looks a bit nicer

[@bobwinters5572]

The new assimilation has some annoyances. Full acceptance pops don't get assimilated and all pops only get assimilated into pops that have the same heritage group.

[@KissatenYoba]

bad for performance, good for realism

[@bobwinters5572]

@@KissatenYoba Not entirely realistic. Middle eastern Christian populations were not uncommon as migrants to the new world in the 19th century. They assimilated into the majority/dominant population even faster than large groups of Europeans who were numerous enough to form ghettos.

[@justinallen2408]

​@bobwinters5572 you're taking one instance and saying it's this over and over again which is simply wrong.

[@Braddiamond]

What mods are you using for the map?

[@Alexander_the_Greatest]

I think secret police might be a bit broken...

[@yaldabaoth2]

Importing slaves ❌ Having slaves import themselves ✅

[@scorpioneldar]

Thats not a bug. that is the intent of the new deign. IRL the Irish were heavily discriminated in the US. the Chinese even in the 1920's were arrested simply for being in public in California during the Flu pandemic. and they still migrated here in droves. Italians Especially Sicilian Italians were treated as bad or worse that "native blacks" when they migrated. none of that stops people from coming over. life in America was Believed to be so much better that even with the rampant discrimination it was worth coming here anyway. Discrimination still has an impact. namely lowering the effective SOL a Pop checks when they move. but then again. most moving pops are already discriminated against. like say Albanians in the ottoman empire or Poles in Russia. your hell scape may treat an Albanian protestant better than the ottomans do. so it makes perfect sense that they would move especially if there was better economic opportunity there. people don't just move to receive favorable treatment from government they move to build a better life. a rising tide lifts all boats. if the economic conditions are good enough it is entirely possible for someone to receive a better life despite discrimination after moving from a place where they were favored by the government. people can and have literally sold themselves into slavery just to get here. Now that is a rather extreme example and I wouldn't call that a rational decision. but it does illustrate the point. Discrimination or lack there of has little to do with migration patterns. (actually discrimination tends to spike against whatever group migrates fast enough for the population change to be noticed. if anything mass migration increases discrimination something the new neighbors new grudges event captures. if a bit poorly.)

[@vxrw]

Enjoyed the slight hover over "Arrange Accident" there

[@nuncasaberas5926]

Down with the eagle and up with the cross I guess.

[@dcoff479]

What is the map mod you used?

[@walyus9389]

IWY - NAVY Papermap

[@Chriskr23]

Love your vids❤

[@IronWolf123]

You just made 2024 America

[@alcidestavares9565]

You just made the actual USA in the Vic3

[@idontlikerome2744]

American American Company oh yes classic, coming from EU4 famous "English England", "Castilian Castile", "Russian Russia" same creators and all Got to wonder how this timeline would go into the 21st century and if this America would endure

[@RubberToeYT]

What a wild playthrough

[@winspyy]

American's in 2016 be like: 10:41

[@dipsers]

OPB demonstrating the upcoming four years of policies after the election 😬

[@wscheets1600]

im already midway into slavery usa build. cant wait to see what we did different. commenting b4 watching!

[@Nahletmecookbro]

So this is what happen if Adam hilt become president

[@steppedonmyglasses]

Why there is 100k Korean immigrants in my German Empire?

[@barlmax4095]

historically accurate America

[@James-rm7sr]

It doesn't feel right to keep down the abolitionists.

[@elliottprehn6342]

Who’s gonna tell him this is how it happened

[@Lombwolf]

Lore accurate USA

[@diegomolina4767]

Did you forget Hawaii?😢

[@JohnDoe-yz5wh]

What map mod is he using?

[@corvus1374]

You didn't capture Hawaii

[@electricVGC]

historical american gameplay

[@cantalope6980]

Bro just made irl America 🫡

[@taranjk1]

This is just modern day america

[@RockRock-p3v]

Fantastic a modern usa run

[@karstenkunneman5219]

Waiter, waiter! More historical revisionism please!

[@MrSnakenoob]

Mexicans coming in from Canada like Hannibal.

[@user-if9ib2qj7c]

34:10 WTF happeend to abe's arm?

[@alexandredupond1224]

Last game with US I finish my game at 450M pop

[@Meanietube]

Funny concept 😂

[@RemiDobbs]

I see no bug this is just America

[@furkannsb]

it is not a bug, its a feature

[@jaredprather8060]

that's not a bug. its intended

[@jumbomuffin1316]

I literally got the game with all the DLCs after watching people play and regret it. The new suppressing or bolstering is extremely difficult (or bugs) than the older ones I’ve watched. You literally can’t get anything done. After trying 3-4 times, Ludi released a video on Japan so I followed what he did but within 5-6 minutes, my play was significantly different than his. I assume there was an update or something. Might end up quitting and never touching the game

[@derekskelton4187]

Never watch a Ludi video expecting to follow his gameplay. Dude is pretty notorious for using console commands to get content. Tarkusarkusar is generally better for that, but yeah this game is rough for that, because a lot of it is responding to events to get the results you want.

[@achmedaan]

I don't understand how Paradox didn't think it's strange for migrants to move to countries where they're less free and horribly discriminated...

[@Notmyname1593]

It may be strange to you but not unrealistic. People do move to quite horrible places (for them) if it meant they can earn a living.

[@EpicMiniMeatwad]

@@Notmyname1593 There's a lot of things seemingly strange in this game you'd never expect happening, but happens anyway in the real world. Kinda funny.

[@starguy321]

Considering the racism faced by East Asian immigrant workers to the USA, or by guest workers in Europe (notably the Irish in Britain), it actually makes sense for people to move to areas where they’ll face discrimination

[@pauloandrade925]

It makes sense if u can live a lot better. Like i would too

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Imagine if someone is discriminated in their homeland as well and it makes a lot more sense suddenly.

[@croatiaball3038]

Alyaska is the Russian name lol

[@TheGerudan]

So it's basically the US from 2025.

[@BasicLib]

@@TheGerudan no… just… no

[@MackTheKnife106]

I think what you mean is the US of the last four years mate

[@BasicLib]

@@TheGerudan neither of what both of you are saying is even tangentially close to true and your brains are politics melted. The US for most of the past 50 years, and in some regards since its founding has been one of the most progressive places on the planet for millions of people hence its massive population. With very significant exceptions, Native Americans and Black Americans but even they have seen radical changes in the past century in regards to their place in society. And I say this as an immigrant to this country please do not let your politics blind you to the reality of what this country really is, warts and all and how for so many of us, it truly is the best place in the world for us to live in.

[@hunterbrockinton4329]

@@MackTheKnife106 Circus in town?

[@MackTheKnife106]

@@hunterbrockinton4329No. I just don’t think it makes much sense equating a simulation of an interventionist USA that benefits from the chaos it causes over seas economically by way of ‘anarcho tyranny’, to a populist who when in office put citizens of his country before anything, started no wars or coups or foreign campaigns, no money laundering through ‘foreign aid’, had the lowest illegal immigration in the country’s history and had the best diplomatic record of any US president in my lifetime. On top of that then blowing the whistle on the CIA’s plans to invade both Venezuela and Iran. On the other hand… well if you’d like to get in to that, we can.

[@Cix1teen6]

2 views in 43 seconds, bro fell off

[@ІлляВоробченко]

Pov: trump USA

[@BoliceOccifer]

You're supposed to rename yourself John Smith or something before posting that

[@ІлляВоробченко]

@BoliceOccifer ?

[@aephos.overwatch]

Spot on

[@aephos.overwatch]

@@BoliceOccifer Lol

[@goose9515]

POV: Latino vote for trump in 2024 at the highest it's ever been for a republican

[@gebus5633]

"I will build a hellscape." So you will be going communist? Oh yeah, it's Vicky 3 and not a realistic game...

[@donzapatero4808]

As an American, i can definitely see the democrats try something like this in real life.

[@BoliceOccifer]

A Protestant Aristocratic Anglo-Saxon Theocracy? Yeah, sounds on brand for the libs.

[@aephos.overwatch]

It's funny you say that because it was neither them nor Repubs that tried this, but one man came in in 2017 and actually tried, and has said he will try again in 2025. Project '25 is literally this video.

[@Bayonet1809]

@@aephos.overwatch I thought Trump doesn't want immigrants, but this video is the opposite?