Viddal and Leon's NEW YouTube Boxing Tier List 2023

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[@MysticMarble]

I actually love how straight up leon is, not scared at all to give his genuine thoughts, something many would never do

[@bigboss9662]

They do dirty on Adam s

[@asifsiddique455]

@@bigboss9662 nah

[@yashvardhangupta7398]

Who can possibly scare him?

[@allensastre5891]

i feel like he's too quick sometimes. wants to put bdave in journeyman tier as if 2 fights (1w-1l) tells all. with adam saleh, pretty legit judgement, adam has had a bunch of fights and hasnt amounted to much. bdave has had 2, his debut being against a completely different pineda to the one ksi fought. if that version of pineda turns up he gives ksi more trouble than that fraud fournier. always had a suspicion those wins were bought when he spends more on PEDs than these guys that he fought at pro can earn as part of their purse.

[@anon420098]

Brave until it's time to talk about KSi

[@bonulver]

Leon is so refreshingly harsh with a giant smile on his face! "He needs to hang up the gloves!" just as Sensei is chatting about coming back in! ✨️

[@ohohohoh2448]

Until it's about gib

[@bonulver]

@@ohohohoh2448 I agree with them on that. All the way with the Big G-I-B!

[@JTeeLockedIn]

Sensi a pusi wasn’t he about boxing on his old KZbin vids and now he retiring sooner then Nate Diaz

[@brownguy4785]

IN RIL & WILLS WE TRUST✍🏿

[@Asc11903]

The only people that you can get real info from

[@NeonSpecsCo]

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[@Crapulence1]

@@NeonSpecsCo why u saying that for?

[@rastrafack4336]

In my opinion, I think Walid and Deen deserve to be on the GOAT tier. If we take weight classes aside, they have a lot better boxing skills than many people on the list

[@MysticMarble]

They’re technical ability are by far the best but to be put in goat i feel like they need more fights, when walid rematches and beats deen, hes easily at the top

[@Ilias24.]

Deen not so much neither walid

[@XtoCee]

Biased list, that's why. How is Gib above Saltpapi and in the same category as Jake? Madness!

[@softpianomusic7773]

@@XtoCee salt papi has realistically had 2 actual fights and hes 1-1 in those, his first 2 dont count fucking 2 week swarmz would of beaten them. Gib has had 5 actual fights and is 4-1, his first doesnt count since he fought a blind irish man. this list isnt about whos the most skilled its about who has been the most proven and succesfull.

[@diogomarques554]

There is no real competition in that division, they are definitely the goats there, but dont really stack up as pound to pound since they havent fought anyone considerable imo

[@sneakytacos773]

Definitely needed a tier between has potential and journeyman

[@humayunhassan4591]

Yea definitely

[@thejaded]

What would you name it bro?

[@fusionguava8336]

I hear what they saying about sensei butttt he would’ve put Kenny away but the ref jumped in for no reason then it just went down from there

[@khoualdiafarouk710]

They are just biased to kenny its whatever

[@dust5717]

Why didnt he do it again? If hes that skilled he shouldve knocked kenny down

[@fusionguava8336]

@@dust5717 because the ref was being over protective kinda killed the fight from both sides

[@SuDe-sx7km]

@@dust5717he literally beat kenny. would’ve been a ko if red didn’t help kenny

[@evangingerson1271]

The ref was only overprotective ones Sensai actually spoke about why he didn’t put the pressure on after he is a counter puncher and after that Kenny fought smarter and didn’t go into any counters after that save from the ref

[@bglt2661]

I actually rate Leon for that take on Jake cos no one gives him ratings for setting trends

[@Andy-zi2es]

That something I've always rated about jake like Leon said jake was the first to go into the abyss and take risks

[@3three3]

@@Andy-zi2es Funny thing is KSI says Jakes stuck in an echo chamber when his entire fan base is an echo chamber when it comes to Jake.

[@eyesee1179]

True, barely any/no influencers in their damn mind would fight Tyron Woodley, let alone Tommy Fury and risk everything like Jake Paul.

[@thegoat6116]

the fact that they put sensei at "hang up the gloves" is crazy😤

[@accountnew7030]

I can SLAP UP sensei in the ring and I've been doing boxing for 3 months go and tell your mans that

[@thegoat6116]

@@accountnew7030 delusional

[@manemane4735]

It is because he does not want to fight anymore. Skill wise, he is near the top and they acknowledge that.

[@Hdly216]

Because he did...

[@aycreates7788]

@@manemane4735 then why was their second option "journeyman"

[@Saiken93]

The only opinion I trust 🥇

[@Murtazakhan1_]

FACTS

[@eyad5773]

fr

[@lukass3533]

And wade

[@keatonward7693]

@@lukass3533no

[@beamingkun]

Fuck no

[@ronnyday6294]

“Anthony Taylor is there Moses tryna lead them to the promise land” I’m dead😂😂

[@aharonmoyal4905]

The issue with the way the tiers are named is that they all level up in skill level but journeyman is kind of a seperate category not measured by skill. Of course Adam Saleh is better than BDAVE, but the way the tier list is built its gonna mislead a lot of people into thinking that he's ranked lower in terms of skill

[@Smokey348]

yeah, i have seen a lot of journeyman that are solid boxers with like 100 losses or smth. They should have also put in a category thats called ''solid fighter''

[@ljthethird37]

I wish people would just rank the fighters from worst to best instead of worrying about the category names

[@mrlegkick91]

That's wayyy harder than using categories

[@wizardsyndicate5505]

@@mrlegkick91nah working in the mines is hard. That’s just being lazy and not wanting to hurt feelings

[@mrlegkick91]

@Wizard Syndicate lol I don't think they give a f about feelings. It's just a lot more complex to rank everyone like that categories just makes more sense. Maybe they could rank them within the categories. That would be interesting

[@fatdingo8251]

@@wizardsyndicate5505Do not look at this guy’s comment history ^

[@Notorious224]

if we talking skill it is 1st - KSI 2nd - Jake 3rd - AT 4th - Gib 5th - Nunez

[@westonlittle1149]

Faze sensei did beat Kenny. They just gave it to Kenny because of bad judges.

[@AwesomeMan2696]

@@hthomas-vj8cw nah you're missing the point - sensei never did boxing fights he did MMA and Karate.. dude is not a BOXER. This dude Sensei doesn't even take boxing seriously he's never done a legit camp. Even when he fought Kenny he admitted to only having sparred a few boxing rounds and mainly teaching Karate in his Dojo.

[@ghostx3321]

Bare in mind sensei would’ve had kenny on the floor 1st round if the ref didn’t jump in to protect kenny straight away.

[@TAVZZ]

“Hang up the gloves” is so disrespectful 😂😂😂😂😭😭

[@mr.buttsniff1404]

putting jarvis in has potential but blueface in almost there is crazy

[@MysticMarble]

Cmon leon you said how is slim 5-0 fighting people on their debut , same goes for ksi and he got put in goat tier

[@ethanwiles1798]

i agree, since his return hes fought a skinny mexican kid, swarmz who only had 2 weeks experience when he fought jj, temper who got knocked out by slim, and the joe fournier which resulted a no contest, no credible opponents and now hes picking at jakes opponents

[@filipbrcko]

love this two. they are the most honest and RILLEST guys in here. they say what they think. and i love it. so much respect

[@AlexRodriguez-zt1jk]

There’s no way sensei should be at the bottom. I feel like he goes easy on these guys when sparring and fighting. The Kenny fight was clearly a robbery as well.

[@Karim12-1]

yeah but he said in an interview that he will never box again and just retire from martial arts and do other things, but if he was still active he will demolish everyone in this list imo

[@brandonadam7167]

Did you not hear their reasoning to why they put Sensei there? They're totally right. Sensei would be a great teacher for the rest of the influencers. His attitude towards fighting also isn't there. The dude doesn't have any intentions of fighting and he's already been there and done that in his own pro-fighting career. Hang up the gloves is plausible, no shots are being thrown at his skills or anything.

[@ashtonpeppard3663]

​@@breloumhe beat kenny

[@ashtonpeppard3663]

@@breloum he was gonna knock him out but the ref stopped him

[@jancyvargheese5351]

True. He went easy mode on kenny. We never seen sensei at his best giving it his all. He is definitely at the top in this scene

[@eddiebarton4319]

Putting sensei in bottom tier is criminal

[@aarond9563]

BDave feels like a journeyman if I’ve ever seen one. Fr no disrespect at all. It just feels like he’s really not on smoke.

[@yennox5338]

He is on smoke but he's just here to participate as Leon said, don't know many dudes that would take a mystery opponent like Pineda and still perform well.

[@MendezOnBoxing]

9:55 Leon: "Ugh hang up the gloves, how dare you!" then proceeds to make a face of disgust hahaha love it.

[@Bengolstar300]

Nah Leon actually talks hella facts, I love how realistic he is but still manages to be kind for such a savage, excellent content chaps

[@crisxbxldie]

BLESSED ME WITH A VIDEO COMING BACK FROM SCHOOL 😭🙏

[@Shanlahsial]

Amazing content guys

[@Tony-xm4cc]

Sensei could probably beat the entire crossover goats list aside from MAYBE Jake

[@RDCCryptic]

Next boxing tier list you guys should base the boxers off of their pure boxing skills and not because of your personal opinion on them.

[@IcyAgent]

thats what they did

[@HimK22]

@@IcyAgent blueface at nearly there?!?!!!

[@IcyAgent]

@HimK the only people that I could see beating him in has potential are deji kenny jarvis and maybe leveon. So why would he not be in nearly there. he's had multiple fights never lost, all wins are by ko and people think it's a 50/50 fight for him and slim so by that logic him and slim should be on the same level.

[@HimK22]

@@IcyAgent yeah i could see him winning due to his natural advantages and awkward fighting style

[@Notorious224]

if they did pure boxing skills KSI is on top for sure. salt papi and jake were exposed so id say they are more closer to each other at around #2

[@SoySaucing]

I love how u can both make valid points to eachother and make sense lol

[@reubz5k214]

I like how unbiased you guys are

[@jjblack175]

Biased* u mean

[@cozy.elfenomenooooo]

​@@jjblack175 fr

[@AJ-tm8cg]

Pineda

[@jesusbaeza1584]

They put gib at goat… biased af

[@wespicedmemes]

@@jesusbaeza1584 y’all just don’t like gib but he’s up there. He definitely better than those names on nearly there besides maybe papi. Maybe.

[@arod4539]

Love that shirt Leon!!✝️❤️

[@mannyy91]

Leon never ever talks shit this guy spits facts with everything he says 😭

[@kaws3076]

How does Logan keep making top of the list with ZERO wins is insane

[@mregg771]

i swear, these guys were on some different horeshit, logan and nunes almost there like wth, and gib on the same level as jake and ksi lol gib will be slept within 2-3 rounds with them, putting jarvis in has potential and blueface in nearly there lol, and how tf is slim still at nearly there, hez undefeated in this scene, has to be the goats

[@ronnienaldo7101]

I mean, both fights with KSI could’ve gone either way.

[@ckmortanya]

it’s cause he’s fighting the harder competition. if he carried on boxing he would rack up wins

[@Wafrie01]

His first fight was ksi my guy. Then went straight to floyd. If you put him in there with slim or temper or zanetti he’s knocking them out

[@ioakimantonis4687]

Great list kept it real like always

[@SoySaucing]

At least we know this duo will always be straight up

[@rodgerashish9781]

Leon is funny as hell🤣🤣🤣🤣 he is danm straight to his point. What a savage guy 🤣🤣🤣

[@Chefpeepee1]

Gib is underrated, I’m glad he’s up there with the Goats 🐐

[@SoySaucing]

One things thats guarenteed is yall are gonna keep it ril

[@Inzain1336]

Leon straight cooking misfts while Viddal smoothly tries to move on lmao

[@offical_ceska.1735]

20:44 Big Leon for speakin facts

[@solarboogie5653]

adam should be way higher

[@4Rango]

this is why i rate these 2 always keep it real no matter what aint no yes men

[@farhaanahmed8924]

There should be a category between Nearly There and Goats. For people like Slim, Gib etc.

[@SoySaucing]

Damm sensei in hang up the gloves, makes sense tho

[@virtualrob7360]

I don’t agree with the sensei decision but the rest is fair.

[@Yxsufyt]

tbf sensei did want to hang uo the gloves after the kenny fight, but yh he has one of the goats

[@Ilias24.]

​@@Yxsufyt he more of kickboxer tbh He would destroy everyone in Kickboxing match

[@Hdly216]

​@@Ilias24.yea but this is about boxing

[@IcyAgent]

i mean sensei agrees with the decision

[@Ilias24.]

@@Hdly216 ok

[@BomberBlair]

AND WE BACK

[@oCapo42]

man ik gib has had a good run in the scene but u cant put him in the same tier as Jake.

[@hellohi1445]

Jake is in a different level to KSI too but there’s no way KSI isn’t crossover GOAT.

[@MysticMarble]

@@hellohi1445 As a crossover boxer he’s not a goat, as an influencer maybe

[@hellohi1445]

@@MysticMarble yeh that’s the point lmao. In terms of influencers he’s the goat. Well In the goat category. Behind jake.

[@Joe-rr8ls]

Big up for the honest takes but labels were horror (might need to run this one back) 😂

[@Blkarican]

aint no way Bdave and jarvis in the same category

[@Shanlahsial]

Vidal & Leon should be misfits press holders and commentators

[@jainee4507]

Been waiting for you two to upload since elbowgate.

[@VieuxRN2]

Whatever the top is that Leon has, I need that 🔥

[@whatever0000]

Bro Sensei at the bottom of the tier list is crazy.

[@JohnnyKalan]

I peeped the new training program you got, Leon 👀

[@bitchdectectors2670]

Damn sensei in put the gloves down? that's wild

[@whxskevin]

One of the best tier list for yt boxing, how straight forward Leon was is perfect

[@kylejohnson4615]

Sensei is hang up the gloves is CRAZY

[@AwesomeMan2696]

Viddal and Wills are always hating on Sensei - it's kinda crazy. At most times they seemt to like him, but they don't seem to like him much when it comes to these boxing lists, they always shit on him.

[@henzen468]

Good tier list I think y’all were just missing a tier category or two, one between nearly there and has potential and one between journeyman and has potential

[@dontatme951]

100%

[@lsd-rickb-1728]

Reel n Wheels back at it again

[@ArtetaOut1]

These two really have you thinking

[@gibseeey7889]

Controversial one but I agree with the sensei opinion. He is immensely talented but 30 years old, getting married, works more than full time and has talked at length about wanting to move into an analyst role. Hes got nothing left to prove

[@olajiklyeditz9434]

Do a tier list with pro boxers

[@GodEmperor_]

This is the real tier list.

[@boxinglife000]

Love how Leon agreeing with Vidal saying KZbinrs fighting legends is ruining yt boxing, but Leon supported and trained deji to fight Floyd. Hypocrite.

[@darion3780]

facts fr

[@Washekk2712]

ngl next you gotta have more tiers, there should be another tier between has potential and journeyman

[@CodyMcConnell1]

You need ONE more tier, in between has potential and nearly there

[@IcyAgent]

yeah i think kenny deji wassabi and jarvis would go better in that tier

[@SamDaMan22]

Sensi put away Kenny but for some reason got saved from a standing 8 when usual should of had the chance to try to get the ko

[@jorensupenieks9996]

Sensei nearly there

[@simpleton36]

I feel like if Jake fought Tommy the first or second time they were supposed to, it would’ve been catastrophic for Jake. Probably would’ve gotten knocked out

[@jaxingoff6245]

This isn't talked about enough. Jake is LUCKY Tommy pulled out those two times

[@Andy-zi2es]

​@JaxingOff why would it be talked about,as if it was Jake's fault, It was obvious jake didn't have the best odds as tommy is a volume puncher were Jake's at most will throw 3 punches but hats off to jake for taking the risk

[@romztt8768]

How can you put Logan Paul in nearly there when he has never won a fight and hasn’t fought in over 2 years and then put Sensei at the bottom who arguably beat King Kenny, who you put in “has potential”?

[@scoobydoing9039]

so many fighters are scared to fight Logan, even Nate Diaz wants to fight Jake more than Logan.

[@yrnflipper8512]

first list i completely agree with

[@stellad7315]

Can't believe how unbias the discussion around KSI and Jake Paul was as most time it's all political. But this video kept it factual not emotional.

[@ethanwiles1798]

fax, every ksi fight since his return have all been fights where he should sleep them within 2 rounds

[@standup1233]

These man always do adam saleh dirty. Hes right up there with dean. Should be has potential at least

[@UltimateN.]

Looking back i don't know what Viddal and Leon were smoking putting Nunes and Logan in nearly there😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lumeesk7985]

Kenny a journey man bruh

[@IcyAgent]

just no

[@amaan.7879]

Adam Saleh should be potential he been bout for time

[@jaesall3519]

Logan beating blueface is a crazy statement

[@Pocketdrip]

10:29 promised land😂😂😂Leon is too funny man

[@1x.edoliver]

Bro said AT is their Moses 😂😂😂😂😭

[@teamxloadin3128]

Respect to Leon for keeping it real

[@Kryptboxing]

How is Adam saleh a journey man

[@jancyvargheese5351]

Adam Saleh is an experienced amateur, and was gonna become pro before his boxing licence was taken off due to street fights. He is nearly at the top

[@primitivehorde537]

That jmx vs logan fight

[@redhatguy3]

The best podcast

[@SoySaucing]

Yall are sleeping on leveon bro, went all round with uriah, easily smacked up jmx, knocked out AP, hes nearly there and gives anyone issues

[@otaku--szn5464]

Wills wearing Holstrength God is Great

[@kingdavey3210]

I agree with the tier list a 100% of the way you lot explained it but the only thing i disagree is Gib being way too overrated

[@ferociousfish2826]

The breakdown better ngl

[@dodong_insane675]

keeping it real, then putting gib at GOATS by beating mcbroom twice whos on should retire category😂

[@tonyflores3630]

DEJi is a journey man😂

[@TheIceMurder2]

You don't know what a journey man is then.

[@yener_1399]

I have always said the same thing Leon said about JJ and Jake

[@AlexRight]

Both are big time power punchers, so really it’s just whoever lands first, and JJ looks significantly faster, but gets caught a lot more. I think if it’s at 180lbs JJ wins though. I’ve never understood why people seem to think Jake is levels above, his Woodley win is all he’s really got going for him, which granted, is still impressive.

[@sk-ng4sp]

​@@AlexRight anderson silva beats ksi on points in my opinion. And you will see the levels once he fights tommy coz I 100% know that jake is levels above ksi. And you will know it after the tommy fight coz I see tommy stopping ksi under 4 rounds.

[@Andy-zi2es]

​@@AlexRight I think you are basing this off jj recent performances where he looked really good against novice fighter that are not on his level. If we are being honest jj hasn't had a good fight since logan. That why people rate jake alot because he's gone through more adversity and fought harder fight that actually tested him.

[@AlexRight]

@@sk-ng4sp Silva was a worse fight that Woolley, his output was more, but the guy was zero threat to Jake. Jake was always going to win that fight lol, also KSI probably KO’s silva.

[@sk-ng4sp]

@@AlexRight I thought that silva wasn't as good as he in jake fight compared to how he was during his fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr was because Jake's power. Even in tommy fight you could see that tommy was fighting on Backfoot due Jake's threat to throw powerful 1-2 combos in which he avoided and outclassed jake... woodley was not harder fight than silva and woodley would easily ko fournier under 3 rounds and the ksi vs woodley fight is 51-49 in favor of woodley coz ksis chin ain't that great...both woodley and ksi have potential to knockout one another but it all depends on timing and accuracy in which woodley wins that.

[@surinderchana2]

RIL & WILLS is the best

[@hamzamalhi2477]

Lol, the Adam disrespect was crazy. Deen got dropped by walid 3 times, and Adam did not.

[@iNotoriousAJ]

I wish Logan had more of the killer instinct like Jake, could have been very entertaining to see him do more of the influencer fights :D

[@daebak7370]

He has more natural boxing skills than jake

[@ryan4152]

logan would lose to alot of boxer in his weight class right now just cause he looks good built doesn't mean anything he would get destroyed by leveons bell and beat by jmx blueface papi slim at

[@daebak7370]

@@ryan4152 he would beat everyone on that list except leveon bell

[@OiBlake]

Should’ve had Tempo Arts mannn

[@sub-j6077]

Please do the womens tier list and include the ones from creator clash as well

[@Wafrie01]

Fuck that lol

[@yennox5338]

Bro how is Leon so unintentionally funny?

[@E2JMusic]

This is the only valid list. A trainer who’s had pro bouts and a current pro boxer who’s ranked. They understand the scene too. Everyone else except for Sensei? I can’t agree with their opinion.

[@ladmma2]

Respect for putting Gibber at the top 🫡

[@dudududududu4513]

Calling Adam Saleh a journeyman is crazy, just because he isn’t Walid’s level doesn’t mean he isn’t good.

[@raynorbarnes4713]

The thumbnail tier list is in shambles 💀

[@stellad7315]

100 tier list, wills keep it straight only issue was with GIB he is nearly there tier.

[@lust123]

gib goes in nearly there

[@SamDaMan22]

Started tripping from the jump bdave and Adam are many levels apart with Adam on top