Video Editor Reacts to aespa 에스파 'Savage' MV

[@JordanOrme]

No one: Me: “CcEWaNngGGgaaA” 🙈

[@aj.6880]

Lol but why you say it like that???

[@thelordnaevis4946]

kwang *ga*

[@lauramurillo8006]

Please react to brave girls!!

[@darreldaniel9842]

@@lauramurillo8006 ..................

[@hannijobs]

@@lauramurillo8006 brave girls songs are good but their mv are simple. Maybe it doesn't interests Jordan as an editor.

[@talhaaslam4964]

In black mamba they lost interaction with the nævis because of black mamba, in next level they are on their way to KWANGYA to fight the serpent and save nævis, and in savage they already arrive where black mamba is and are fighting with black mamba and it seems they defeated it but at the end it seems something obscure trapped them.

[@JordanOrme]

Oooooooo love the insight!

[@DepressoMacchiato]

Yeah, I think it's just an apparent victory. Especially that Karina is infected (?) with the mambaness, lol (the reflection engulfed in "smoke" + look at her eyes).

[@Samurollie]

Also, rip naevis

[@talhaaslam4964]

@@DepressoMacchiato yeahh

[@talhaaslam4964]

@@JordanOrme ❤️❤️

[@mahimthakur]

​if aespa makes a MV for league i will leave dota and play league for sure

[@JordanOrme]

😂😂😂

[@sekaishinryakusenda3753]

I-

[@VinyleYourMatcha]

its actually has that kda vibe

[@nicopadua5187]

@@VinyleYourMatcha There should be a concept where aespa and kda go to war against each other but end up being friends at the end.

[@mediumvioletred]

They actually performed in the League of Legends Wild Rift SEA championship ceremony. Does that count? 🤣

[@mohdsyafiq6915]

Basically the best reaction for savage. Since he definitely understand whats going on in the music video and aespa worldwide view. Thank you for great reaction, keep it up

[@JordanOrme]

💜 sorry about KawwAanGGAA

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@astayandablinkisastink9980]

yeah...aespa's mvs would be too confusing for those who are not acquainted with the terminologies and storyline

[@kings_collection]

@@iaterosesfood4388 stop spamming

[@teadora99]

I completely agree with your comments about the dance break portion. I think the editors should have taken some inspiration from how Itzy have done their dance breaks in the past to make the editing look a little more chaotic to make the drop feel satisfying especially after such a cool moment with the winx-like animations of the girls

[@JordanOrme]

Yes!!

[@rinrawrchu]

damn jordan should just edit for SM 😭😭

[@lyphan1569]

Well the choreographer of the song is Kiel Tutin and he also choreographed Blackpink's How You Like That and then he choreographed it for Izty. It's not hard to understand the choreography is the same.

[@starbursting]

@@lyphan1569 that has nothing to do with anything here lol

[@sunshine1965]

@@lyphan1569 talking about the camera work not the choreo

[@vtaeminztime5414]

the structure of the song is soo oddly complex yet satisfying istg sm is surely paving the way for 4th gen idols with its innovative ideas and you sure point out when, where and most importantly HOW the editor has edited the mv even tho the mv just released a few hours ago. Huge respect orme! 👏👏👏👏👏 u were born to be an editor

[@JordanOrme]

💜💜💜

[@ayymayy0104]

When Giselle says "Put deep fake on me" the next shot is duplicates of her with different faces! 1:54

[@PamelaRubel]

I LOVED this part so much. I was so confused by people complaining about that part in the lyrics, since it makes so much sense considering their lore

[@ayymayy0104]

@@PamelaRubel Yeah, having virtual avatars of yourself automatically enables people to create edits and whatnot. And so this line makes sense.

[@michaelalala]

Oh my *gosh*-I just know this one's going to be juicy. I'm still recovering from Savage myself!

[@JordanOrme]

RIGHT

[@agungdarmawan7882]

Ikr

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@shortietown]

I can just tell that jordan's just gonna be amazed by the graphics and animation before i actually watch him react

[@JordanOrme]

A prophet

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@Blink-wq6dm]

@@iaterosesfood4388 u good

[@ponds7177]

I really like the camera movement at 3:15. I missed it on my first viewing, but now that I’m watching it again it’s easier to notice the snake-like movement of the camera (mimicking the cgi snake) as it gets closer to the girls. Pretty neat! Also, thanks for the insightful videos, as always. ⭐️

[@JordanOrme]

TRUEEE

[@noname-yx6dh]

@@JordanOrme VOTE FOR AESPA, PLEASE!! 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYHHaWpmbp6Aoq8 Artist Of The Year!! 🙏

[@mahimthakur]

this MV is on the next level

[@JordanOrme]

FACTS

[@mahimthakur]

@@JordanOrme this mv every time i hear it gimme gimme now gimme gimme now more more and one more time again

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@farttrumpet]

@@iaterosesfood4388 U again-

[@ajreyes1262]

The 'panicked netizens' posts is about how the aes are disconnected, kinda like yesterday when facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp went down, everyone posted on twitter And KWANGYA is not where the ae lives. They live in FLAT, that's why we see at the end of Black Mamba ep 1 that the aes don't know what KWANGYA is and Naevis explained it to them that it's 'beyond FLAT' and she's the only one who can open a portal called P.O.S(Port of Soul) for them to go to KWANGYA

[@JordanOrme]

Great insight thanks for the correction!

[@ajreyes1262]

@@JordanOrme thanks! I love your reaction videos! 😊

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@anamariabertot8870]

There's a theory that says that NCT lives in KWANGYA or they have the hability to get in to it.

[@terbiumboii]

They already mention that the phenomenon when they were disconnected from their aes is called SYNKOUT. And I think the phenomenon when they enter the virtual world is called SYNKDIVE which is one of their album version

[@breadsmile]

That navis we love you was kind of cringey but yeah overall I love the song and the mv, aespa is definitely something that we needed in kpop the whole album is a bop

[@aespa9149]

For me its funny HAHAHAHAH

[@dreamer4475]

I thought it was just me who thought that😂

[@breadsmile]

@@dreamer4475 a lot of people is using that to hate on the song but in the performance video it's not that noticeable like in the mv so it's not a big deal

[@dreamer4475]

@@breadsmile really? Are haters gonna nitpick every little things they can just to drag AESPA? They srsly need to get a life.

[@jamesle7237]

no, to me it was iconic

[@sweetpsycho8075]

Me just a Kpop fan realized that aespa is the first SM girlgroup that can ... rap. Love watching MVs with Jordan!!

[@andjelad9433]

YEAH, their gg rapline is the best in SM

[@le4689]

WAIT THERE'S NO RAPLINE IN GIRLS GENERATION!?!?? 😭

[@canciondeamorparaolga]

@@le4689 hyoyeon cant rap jaxdjsfdj

[@tleeai]

Go check out f(x) and Amber

[@marwakassem1600]

The dance therapy for this one's gonna be wild

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@KlTRA]

Love me some wild dance therapy

[@JordanOrme]

Can we get this video to 500 likes before it premieres? 👀

[@honzy.__.4730]

Could you please make a next reaction to Iz*one, thank you very much

[@brendabalana3644]

Jordan please react to some J-POP music videos pleaseeeee

[@divyasharma8474]

Goal's done

[@mer411]

AND CAN YOU FINALLY REACT TO JENNIE 'SOLO' FROM BLACKPINK PLSS 💖

[@eugiedvillaco211]

please make reaction on key's BAD LOVE PLS. THANK YOU

[@zrencos]

The bridge part really sounds like a prayer to naevis and i cant get it out of my mind T_T

[@Mku-JJ1if]

Makes sense cause some one pointed out Nævis sacrificed themselves for æspa to give them P.O.S

[@iamveryontheway]

The "naevis, We love U" sounds awkward when I sing it alone😭

[@JordanOrme]

😂😂😂

[@Moonlight_night345]

Wdym? In naevis we trust! 🤣🤣

[@ff-pj9qf]

Naevis is jesus or sumn?😭

[@iamveryontheway]

@@ff-pj9qf what - 😭😭

[@Moonlight_night345]

@@ff-pj9qf naevis is our Savior!

[@noelnamoca20]

another reaction video from my fav editor

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@fluffymarshmallow2881]

I'm still waiting for this one person not cringing when getting to the "Navis we love you" part😂

[@deisyrmz4375]

That part is stuck in my head the whole day 😅

[@yuangu5549]

@@deisyrmz4375 YASS, ME TOO, I RLLY LIKE THAT MY NAEVIS WE LOVE YOU PARTT

[@hh-jy1ld]

Ya I don’t mind it 😂

[@lauravanessarodrigueznaran1909]

1:31 nope, that's Karina's avatar, but, the "evil smoke" it's because her ae (avatar) is corrupted/contaminated with the Black Mamba

[@fatimafayelabiste8709]

@@136_bangtan9 kwangya is a place like other dimension. Naevis is an entity that saved the girls' Ae from the Black mamba

[@tylerpham22]

Fatima Faye Prosia Labiste Also naevis is the one who open P.O.S. (Port of Soul) to portal the aes or the aespa girls to other dimensions such as Kwangya.

[@shwlluu]

I love it when Jordan reacts to aespa🖤 Thank you..

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@Karina-rk5cp]

I've never waited for a premiere for a reaction video before but I AM EXCITED FOR THIS ONE!

[@JordanOrme]

WOOO

[@iaterosesfood4388]

*giselle and karina gave birth to lisa before the black mamba split and armyism blinkism war.*

[@Sara24127]

yes i was waiting for ur reaction thank u jordan for making me happy 💜

[@JordanOrme]

Anything I can do to help!

[@yunastar17]

Whenever a new Aespa video comes out, all I think about the 💵💵💵💵. The visual effects for their videos are well done, and I can't help but wonder how much it costs to do all the CGI stuff in the editing phase.

[@pcbusby]

Right? When black mamba dropped, I felt so poor just watching it. The editing alone probably costs an arm and a leg

[@annebrytt]

iiiiii loooove aespa so much!! i bought all 3 versions of their album last week!!

[@markitandD.O.it1]

hearing your comments makes me even more proud of æspa, since i'm an SM Stan i'm so happy æspa is here in the Kpop world 😍

[@totydely-br5014]

NAEVIS "Butterfly that appears in all mv's", SACRIFICED ITSELF😭 and as it was shown in the MV, they thought they defeated the black mamba and suddenly released a "what?" which is when that amoeba appears telling us that it was the black mamba who won this battle. SM just came to SMCU and explain in one more ep and in the next comebacks about what's going to happen and probably ae-Karina can be used by bm p to harm the other ae-aespas, one thing is unquestionable, the vocals are every time more insane, 😍😍👏👏, it's crazy that I love so much. kisses from Brazil. 😍😍👏👏👏👏👏👏💕😍.......

[@wheeinthepooh3906]

Nice theory! I also think they were trapped by the black mamba in the end

[@gpalominaiii8]

Brasil ta em todo canto ta doido kkjjjj

[@콩국슈-r5o]

Very very proud Korean right here 👍🏻🖐🏻 Idc if it is a bad review I am already proud that K-pop came here

[@JordanOrme]

💜💜💜

[@cyburia]

omg you're so fast... cant wait to see your reaction on this.. the mv is seriously insane

[@staychellin5905]

it's so cool to watch reaction vids from different ppl of the industry.. your comments were much more about aspects of the MV than the song itself and I love that I could notice a lot of details that i missed before!! even your theories about the storyline are really nice 👌🔥 thank u man!

[@stevendave8804]

In this MV, the eye is the one who took them in the “hallucination quest”. Then it was naevis who helped them and break this hallucination and made them “synk dive” to where that eye is (in the bridge part). Hence, “My naevis we love u” 😇

[@Mku-JJ1if]

This makes sense cause i knew this was their hallucination quest. My victory my synk dive line makes sense to me now

[@user-uh4xu8hn9g]

I always wait for your reaction. It’s different from others and interesting to watch

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@fiestaham]

totally agree

[@ArrenHidalgo]

The whole essence of the group is that they have this Avatar, Experience, and Aspect. So far I'm enjoying SM's theme even if it doesn't relate that much to their overall thing.

[@eoljjangiee]

We all know we’re waiting for Jordan to react to Girls

[@freakofbooks]

I’ve seen this MV so many times, but this is my first time seeing this reaction (I’ve seen your other ones and love them lol)! That theory you said makes a loooot of sense!

[@divyasharma8474]

How do you make your videos so fast yet such good quality like wow

[@JordanOrme]

I try reallllyyy hard haha

[@mochinh]

So much planning put into making an MV. My favourite parts were the chorus with that really cool dance move at 4:27 & just the head movement plus awesome camera work at 8:02. Those were amazing!

[@krbouier0505]

This morning I woke up and saw everyone uploading reactions. Like first On My Block drops on a Monday and now this MV on a Tuesday. It threw me off, but this song is such a ride. It only took two listens for me to like it. Hope they have a lot of live stages.

[@nublock5000]

I really enjoyed the aespa lore! Thanks for that useful background info! This is such a fire comeback. I really enjoy their concept as well and am so curious to see where they go with it.

[@lilyeliane4696]

2:37 If you don't know about aespa they are basically people 🤷‍♀️ great explanation Jordan 😂😂😂

[@JordanOrme]

🙈🙈🙈

[@faestar6808]

Everyone's reaction when "naevis we love you" comes 😂😂😂😂

[@peteartieda58]

If anyone wants to deep dive in Aespa lore they should also watch SMCU ep.1 there's a lot more storytelling there. I think some of it's events start before or alongside Black Mamba. SMCU ep.1: The aes and the real world living peacefully interconnected. Then Black Mamba breaks through The Flat (where the aes and Naevis reside) to infect them hence why ae-Karina has that dark aura. At the end of it Naevis enlists the aes to confront Black Mamba in Kwangya (a seperate outside location to The Flat). She opens p.o.s (a portal) to Kwangya for them to go in. Black Mamba: The real Aespa now knows of the entity that caused the disruption of their Synk (connection) with the aes. They going to work to find a way to connect with them back and stop the Black Mamba. Next Level: "Naevis calling!" I think at some point while in Kwangya the aes are lost and Naevis now asks the help of real Aespa to find and retrieve them. Savage: As they get closer to Black Mamba in Kwangya they encounter obstacles where they have to be more Savage. In the chorus it's like they're taunting it to get them first before they become stronger. I think at some point Black Mamba got to Naevis as she tries to protect Aespa and that caused her demise. Hence why they're thanking her and her sacrifices. So they're completely just by themselves now. Once they finally find Black Mamba they kill it and we're left with that. My theory: Black Mamba has already infected ae-Karina or it changed the aes while she held them hostage in Kwangya. So there's gonna be an evil vs good self showdown next time. Kinda like EXO and X-EXO.

[@eoljjangiee]

Jordan: Jesus loves you, I love you aespa: My nævis, we love you

[@revelinknation]

0:32 I wasn't expecting that vine to fit so much I'm in tears

[@v_ssi108]

Jordan is getting better at dancing from all these dance therapy 👏👏👏

[@sofiafigueras9154]

The way I understand the sm universe better with jordans 15-second explanations than with sm's 15-minute videos jajajaj 10/10

[@imeve6342]

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR REACTION OMG

[@live7katie]

Every time a big kpop video comes out I look forward to your reaction video! Love that you don't just say "wow" and whatnot, but actually point out amazing editing techniques I wouldn't have noticed.

[@user-dl7zx6xe5g]

Tbh whenever I hear the naevis we love you part, it's either I bust out laughing or I sing it like it's a Christian hymn 😭

[@imtanisha]

its 1.21 am here but I am here to watch ur reaction becoz the mv is bop and I know you are gonna talk abt some cool juicy editing so can't wait to watch

[@oceanid4923]

at first listen i loved it immediately it’s just that the “naevis we love u” threw me off 😭

[@devakibhagwat6146]

Aespa released a camerawork guide for creators (it's basically a performance video for savage, but with their in-house cameramen) I think you'll find it interesting!

[@chaeberryyyy]

already a reaction video 👀 your so quick! also love your videos lol ❤️

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@heyitsme2824]

Gotta say you got a great theory, Jordan! Also yessssss! Been waiting for this! 💖

[@JordanOrme]

💜💜💜

[@Bam-vf1lc]

I’m so happy to find your channel with this aespa mv reaction,,,, and as a multi-Stan I’m now bingeing all the reaction vids 😭 a professional reaction hits different 😭 bro your truly dope

[@littlepenguin1095]

Jordan I love ur reaction ❤❤❤ Ps. The aes live in the flat, kwangya is a "universe" between the real world and the flat!! Other sm artists reference kwangya like kai's mmmhn mv

[@JordanOrme]

💜💜💜

[@extradubu4040]

Ningning and winters vocals arrgg in so addicted😭

[@shuttup_n_kerry_on]

Your theory makes sense! Maybe the reason why the way to defeat the black mamba was to shoot that giant eye, is because the giant eye represents their ae, since eye and ae sound the same. So it’s also symbolic because they’re destroying the eye or ae, meaning that they’re destroying their ae’s. And while it seemed like the solution was so simple, that to destroy the black mamba was to just shoot the giant eye that has been behind their backs this whole time (they’ve been dancing in front of it which I think is also symbolic of how the ae of themselves have always been beside them and even kind of watching over them, which gives the pressure of having that ae perfect self), it is incredibly symbolic and therefore a crucial point of attack.

[@aepeessla]

Omg I was waiting for ur reaction and fe got it this fast 😭🙏👑

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@jmsibi3398]

Sir, I’m respectfully waiting for your reaction on Aespa’s Girls MV. 😁

[@nonetaken3332]

you need to watch the ‘aespa savage camera work guide’ video. i feel like you’ll be really blown away by the camerawork there 😭

[@elenemaria594]

Im saying that u would make kpop idol music vids one day for sure!!! Look at ur hard-working Love from 🇰🇷

[@29af]

Loved the genuine reactions and explanations! You don't need to be crazy for your videos to be interesting--nailed it!

[@29af]

Also love the critiques too! Learning so much about editing and camera work :') PS....would definitely pay for a 101 class on camera work? Just a thought...

[@NoopyP]

Everyone who watched the MV got confused at the "Naevis, we love you" part 😂

[@littleloudme]

The level of your knowledge of aespa concept and story is superb!!

[@فلسطينيهواأحبكم]

aespa really iconic

[@JordanOrme]

Yuuhhh

[@i_am_very_happy798]

Jordan 5 seconds ago: HOw diD ThEy Do ThAt! Literally him explaining the whole camera thing.😂

[@shifashine4196]

Smcu eps 2 has already out🔥

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Aespa's concept is something that I still can't explain, even after almost a year and a half xD I'm probably never going to be able to understand it, because of how complex and confusing it can be for some people, but it's a dope concept :D The fact that you can understand Aespa's concept and storyline and the SM Culture Universe is beyond amazing, and you deserve to be part of the fan club~~

[@robertofelix8237]

Didn't understand the full story behind? Here we go: first of all, this big circle on the background is the portal which the girls arrived at KWANGYA. It was made it by Naevis who had to give her existence to build it (this part of story was showed 3:06). Then we have the Black Mamba attacking every girl: Karina was locked in a glass cage (one more thing: black mamba personalize Karina's ae because she was the person who made a contact with the force... we see this in black mamba MV before of second chorus & in the pool - ep1 'black mamba'); Giselle was mocked in a deep fake version of her to mess with logic; Winter was paralyzed by the smoke; and NingNing was trapped in hateful emoji's algorithm. All girls scapes and finds the central of black mamba: Giselle unlocked the traps, Ningning unlocked the avatars with butterfly password & Winterina join powers to break mamba. The final stage is the EYE of hacking which have the force of the villain. At the end the EYE dies BUT the plot twist is next: some of creepy wave covers the girls. What could be? Another portal to return home or Black Mamba has a plan B?

[@confusedG]

Love his reacts. #obsessed I am obsessed with his videos since 10 days.

[@eye_collects]

8:44 I'm pretty sure the members wore mocap suits to record their ae's dancing. I think I've seen it done in one of their behind the scenes videos on their channel.

[@mayflor2999]

Yes you're right they wore mocap when shooting for ai's

[@XGinnix]

I love them, they get my attention since predebut, i mean- aespa don't have the concept that we can see in many kpop girlgroup (cute or childish concept) they are rude and powerful. Stan aespa😎👌🏻

[@somekpopfan]

5:04 i'm just gonna kindly correct you there. so, the real members live in the real world (obviously), whereas the virtual members live in the FLAT. naevis teleports all of them so then they can be together in kwangya so they can fight the black mamba altogether.

[@doremi_doremo]

It’s so fun listening to Jordan luv the Aespa vids as a MY myself

[@fayaaah208]

"My Naevis we love you" ngl i cringed 😭 Thank you for your sacrifices naevis!!😭🙏🙏🙏

[@yaodevi520]

OMG Your theory explanation gave me goosebumps! What a great interpretation!

[@yidtimothy7906]

I Think in this MV their already arrived at kwangya with help by Nævis through P.O.S and defeated black mamba, but they realize that it just hallucination, and the member got trapped in kwangya.

[@Mku-JJ1if]

Upvoted. He seemed to be mistaken about it. The whole MV story line was fighting the hallucination.

[@tyadailydose4863]

Thanks Jordan for the Reaction😍 always love your reaction!

[@wokobee]

hope you will check out Pixy one day, they’re super talented and have beautiful music videos !!

[@eduarda7990]

your reactions are sooo satisfying i love to see it, keep the good work you're amazing !

[@jmsry]

If LoL Worlds theme song had an album, this could be a B-side track.

[@moonshadongg]

OMG finally your reaction!!! I've been waiting this since yesterday^^

[@sshamitha7931]

Loved the reaction! India 💕

[@JordanOrme]

:)

[@celyyne_1793]

ever since i watched jordan, every kpop groups that i stan who has a comeback, i think of him,,,,

[@pencru]

"If you don't know about aespa, they are...basically...people..." - Orme, 2021

[@Hana-gd1vr]

about the shot where winter shoots and karina punches the bullet - karina actually said they had to practice a lot for that shot because her punch kept looking to weak lol so someone on set (not sure if it was a director or someone else) kept showing her how to punch so it would turn out powerful

[@jxgzzy2418]

really love how you breakdown the video (and the others) which is why I've always looked forward to your uploads ^^

[@ms.snowflake9619]

Even im not an editor, I just like to watch this dude reaction to every kpop mv.. idk why, keep it up dude!

[@WiseSmellyLegs]

Their music style is like NCT, but although I like NCT, it really depends on the song or unit, so with NCT music it happened to me many times that their songs were not for me and I felt like it was “too experimental/forced to be experimental”. With Savage it works without any problem for me, but only if I am watching the music video as well. When I listen only to that song on its own, I feel like I am missing something. Like there already should have been some AR in my glasses, when I walk around and listen to that song 😅😅

[@seekerofilm9874]

It's always nice hearing a person like u, an expert commenting their video.

[@joshuahongwife]

I love how jordan also focuses and explains the storyline

[@choerrysgf8306]

9:11 omg its the queen of kwangya Nævis🤩

[@fullsunny2530]

I agree, the dance break could’ve been shot better, everything else was pretty much A+ for me. Thanks for your analysis Jordan 😊

[@lookyam]

You’re the best music video reactor on KZbin

[@jovankaeverlyn426]

9:20 naevis is kwangya's jesus

[@rosieisbored]

honestly thank you for sharing the aespa lore whenever you go over their mvs because i literally never know what's going on

[@Korijira]

Excellent video as always! I especially loved the "lore" analysis. Your theory is super interesting, and I think it makes a lot of sense with that bridge. The lyrics seem to be worshipping the naevis as some sort of Christ-like figure, (even seeing them after the "resurrection") even though the naevis may not really be as well-intentioned as they think. Perhaps something about social media lying to us about how healthy or necessary it is for our lives. As a sidenote, I love that kpop groups have lore now, like they're an Elder Scrolls game or something. It's so extra and ridiculous, yet somehow very charming. I like that it encourages groups to go for a specific and cohesive concept like aespa does, instead of just doing random trends.

[@lolita960]

No hunny. No “Kpop groups” SM groups. I believe it’s always nice to give credits where it’s due. When SM first came out with the idea people kept mocking it and making it seem like it was crazy stuff. Now people are getting on board with it and trying to make it seem like SM hasn’t been a visionary agency for years now. Again, let’s give credits when it’s due.

[@Korijira]

@@lolita960 uh, pretty sure Loona has lore and also isn't an SM group? Unless you can redirect me to a specific group that you believe started it?

[@peteartieda58]

@@Korijira well that's just 1 of the dozen active Kpop groups. From what I know since like BoA or Shinee all SM groups have an overarching concept or lore. While other groups jump from one concept to another per comeback.

[@peteartieda58]

My theory has always been that Black Mamba is the dark aspect of Naevis so there's a possibility Naevis orchestrated everything or that Black Mamba can corrupt Naevis itself and turn her bad.

[@twicepinkvelvet2222]

Sm pretty much created the lore thing in kpop i remember when exo debuted they are "aliens" and they have superpowers ksksksks they also the a villain called "the red force" 🤧

[@armyblinkcatpop5298]

3:23 in that shot can anyone see how ghost blend in with the choreography when the ghost tried to snatch winter and then got a shot of the members doing the next part of that. That must have something to do with the kwangya universe