Video Game Customers Wanting Unreasonable Deals - #CUPodcast

A discussion of customers wanting unreasonable deals and video game supply and demand.
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[@MetalJesusRocks]

This is how it works for anything collectable: 70s Kenner Star Wars figures, rare coins, old vinyl records, KISS merchandise from the 70s, exotic sports cars... 1st edition books...whatever. Welcome to the free market and Economics 101

[@mrpokemon8778]

+MetalJesusRocks its sad how true it is for old metal records, especially for first press

[@ORANGESPARKY]

+MetalJesusRocks Sweet, love your vids MJR.

[@theheat510]

+mrpokemon8778 if you think prices for old metal records are bad, try looking at the prices for rare R&B records

[@LOZKULLKID]

OMG!!!!! its metaljesusrocks, is what a fanboy/girl would say.....Me.....OMFG ITS FREAGIN METAL JESUS ROCKS AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[@MDiPietro16]

+MetalJesusRocks the messiah has spoken

[@CameronJohnson]

I dig the Gamechasers, but I always cringe when they go into a retail store and make lowball offers on games. What's worse, is the owner feels obligated to accept the offer, because their store is on the show.

[@MichaelTermini]

There is nothing wrong with making a offer. I do agree though that some owners might feel forced to.

[@Pewpewpew182]

I agree with you 100%. They are funny to watch but they lowball way to often. I'd love to see an episode where the store manager says "Nope!"

[@FakYuhGoogel]

+Cameron Johnson (Atma Weapon Band) See it like that: Shop owners give them a good price so the shop can be shown in the episodes and a relatively big audience sees it and knows about it. They'll get more customers that way, so the deal works for both sides.

[@CameronJohnson]

This might be true, but it will be misleading to potential customers, with them assuming they will get the same sort of deal.

[@CameronJohnson]

+OutstandingOshawott2 And don't get me wrong, I never miss an episode of the Gamechasers. They seem like legit hardworking guys and I love the show. But coming from someone who has worked retail in the collectible market as well as being a collector myself, I'm very careful not to lowball.

[@Revocane]

"People like to ask about customer situations." To be honest, the vast majority of videos that made me interested and even subscribe for this podcast is the stories Ian has working at Luna. Pat has good ones as well from swap meets and whatnot but these by far are probably the most interesting discussions you guys have, in my opinion. Not to mention entertaining.

[@SuperHandyman100]

+Revocane I subscribed to the podcast because of the stories of people being complete asses, whether it's at Luna, or to Pat or that stalker story, I love a good laugh, people being asses and getting karma really makes me smile

[@AmandaRogersarock1988]

Hey Ian, This isn't just video game collectors, it's a mass disconnect is going on in every industry with consumers. We live in an entitled society through and through. Everyone wants to buy everything now for the lowest dollar amount possible, yet want to own more. I think it's part status symbol for people, and part that they get a high from getting a deal. Don't get me started on people who want to collect for something, then become internet know-it-alls because they looked up a few prices on ebay. A lot of people forget that collectors tend to live and breathe that passion. The band-wagoners can't quite decide what their passion is; therefore, follow the diehards in hopes of catching the same wind. For example, unless he has them hiding, Pat doesn't also collect guitars, paintings, sports collectables, etc. I'm sure he HAS other hobbies and we have seen him collect some toys and comics, but it's not to the same extent. Pat doesn't collect everything in every hobby he has, and knows his own boundaries and goals within that collection. People forget that the collectors that love something love everything surrounding it and would whether or not the price was $5.00 or $50.00, and will be there long after those high prices fade. They were also there collecting before the bandwagoner's, hence the deals they found. If a person can't afford their hobby, start piece by piece, and be happy with what you have! If you can't afford the game, emulate it and save up and budget for it.

[@airvillainOG]

I love how Ian just tells it how it is. Sometimes people are clueless. Seeing "new" people just expect deals, hook ups, and everything handed to them. You have to put the work in! I wish I could walk into the store. Hopefully one day. I would never expect a deal, I just love looking at sweet NES/SNES games!

[@joelsinn9302]

As an older collector, restarting after a sell off, I'm appalled to see the way new collectors act. sure, I remember the days when you could find games for $1 at garage sales, but even then games were more at stores. you can't beg for deals from someone trying to make a living. if people are looking for good deals, they just need to do a little looking, my current collection is valued at over 3 times what I've paid for it. you just have to know where to look.

[@0730bcorm]

When “getting into” I think emulation is a great step to test various games you may want and it may turn you away from paying 200 bucks for earthbound

[@grzlygmr]

I plan on buying Earthbound virtually for my 3ds or Wii U

[@jbfarley]

​@@johnnyace2287 earthbound, over it

[@ButteredToast32]

I can agree with this immensely. I'd love to cut a deal with customers that come into our game store looking for expensive stuff, but I'm not in charge of prices and they're non-negotiable. The only time you're getting a discount is if it's Black Friday or something like that.

[@TheArceusftw]

That's why i go by emulation.(Because I'm somewhat of a penniless loser.)

[@TheArceusftw]

Rick Stasner The Only Retro Console i own is a N64... and I don't think the Gameboy player supports Flash carts.

[@TheArceusftw]

Rick Stasner I know...

[@TUnit959]

+Rick Stasner Everdrives are expensive as is.

[@RaithSienar]

+Wheels8504 "So much wrong with emulation it's not even funny" Translation "I haven't used an emulator ever, I am just going by what people who sell retro games tell me."

[@RaithSienar]

Rick Stasner Somebody sounds like a pleb. Granted you just admitted to maining a laptop so clearly you are a pleb. You DO know they make USB SNES amd NES controllers right?

[@RealNoNikName]

I've been collecting for the Genesis and while yes while I typically don't like paying more than $10 for game I know it is also unrealistic. it's up to the collector to seek out deals like I do whether it be bidding on them on eBay or simply getting lucky at a flee market. And yes there has been a few times where I had to pay high prices for my games but that's just how the market is and either I pay or not get them.

[@jayvictus80]

The market became ridiculous when some lady put her Nintendo on ebay auction and ended up selling for over $10g's due to a Stadium Events cart. The bad part was the news articles & media kept stressing the "Nintendo" & "$10g's" part and didn't stress about the game. Goes to show that people don't read things or listen fully.

[@HQLBvideo]

Everyone needs a friend like Ian... A guy that is cut and dry, straight to the point and doesn't take shit from anyone. I bet he walks in to car dealerships and just owns those salesman that try to screw you over. Hahahaha! Love the show fellas keep it up!

[@JetScreamer_YT]

I have found some Japanese counterparts to North American games about half price. I know someone in Japan, and he sent me Mario Kart, Super Mario All Stars, and Super Mario World for $30. here makes a little for his trouble, and I got the games I loved in the day, English friendly enough, but with small differences. I also will buy lots, take what I want, and flip them. sometimes, I've made a profit. If I go to the store for something, I expect to pay retail. they did the scouting for me. It has been tested. Instant gratification has a price. It's convenience. How do you expect this store to survive if they don't add money to pay a lease, keep lights on, pay people, etc. Do beware of rip offs. Don't bitch when the price is fair. Finding the best deals involves leg work, networking, and patience. you have to be willing to give deals to get deals over time. Reputation is king. I don't insanly pick up anything, I wish I had the disposable cash. It may be slower, but at the moment I have enough games to last me a long time. so, why hurry? It has taken three years to get where I am. I have 14 systems, mostly from flipping lots, and trades. however, I have a small bookcase of games. Nothing like these guys. The thrill of the hunt is half my fun. playing is the other half. Enjoy collecting, don't stress more time trying to get games. Play the ones you have. if you finish one, or don't like it, try to trade. Hobbies are fun, and are for letting stress. In these days, many SD Carts are coming out. You can play everything, and you decide what you want a hard copy of. Above all have a blast, meet people, and Don't Panic.

[@torloni13]

Like the old sayind: "Friends are friends and business is business." If you are my friend, you'll be glad to pay me and help my business.

[@theswapmeetflea]

"Or Tell them to go to Fleamarkets " - Pat 2015 😁👍

[@awesomecat7737]

Hey. Thanks to both of you and your podcast I picked up a copy of Super Mario Bros. 3 from the Nintendo e-store. I remember playing it and watching it being played at a friends house when I was really young. My parents did not get us a console until the SNES. Since I had enough I also got a copy of Lost Levels. Thank you to Ian. Your talking about people playing games and how that is important - I don't feel pressured to have to go out and find an NES or SNES but that it is okay to download games onto the wiiU. I am loving it on the wiiU. I have the pro controller which is great. So I fear you won't be getting any emails from me about deals. :-D I love my WiiU and my New 3ds xl. Many thanks. :-)

[@MarsGundam]

That's the thing with collecting now, everyone wants those games they saw being played on KZbin. The old Marios, Zeldas and Squaresoft RPGs are limited and will command a high price and will not be going down anytime soon. I was in a classic game/record store last week and overheard a girl talking about getting every Zelda title because she liked watching Game Grumps play it. Then when she saw the price they wanted for Majora's Mask in box she nearly flipped her shit. They wanted 89.99 for it and it was still sealed and in perfect condition. I almost wanted to tell her that's how game chasing goes, but I didn't want to be a dick.

[@homersams9015]

Most of the time they just want to play it, not own the cartridge so they should emulate instead.

[@MarsGundam]

TheBrainScratcher Lol, no way, the way modern companies are turning out half assed or broken games it's nice to be able to go back and play games that were finished when they were shipped.

[@gamerguy425]

+MarsGundam 89.99 for a SEALED zelda game? I don't know jack shit about n64 prices but that sounds like a deal to me...

[@MarsGundam]

***** Yeah, I thought it was good, if I were interested in N64 games I might have bought it. They had quite a few N64 games in box, StarFox 64 for the same price.

[@timf7413]

Yeah, it's only marginally more than you would have paid for that game at original retail back in the day.

[@crazymike8057]

Ian was cool to me when I picked up some games before at Lunar (this was over 5 years ago), I told him about how I just got a Nintendo 64 and bought some controllers off Amazon and was waiting for them in the mail. I basically tried getting 10 cheap games and he told me they weren't very good, old sports stuff like NFL Blitz, Quarterback Club and Kobe Bryant Courtside (multiplayer stuff), but after he recommended some cool games the total was like $60 when I thought I was intending to pay $25. He gave me a discount and I was happy, he's a good guy.

[@CecilTheDarkKnight234]

I'm just going to be blunt here I worked at a good-will for five years 2006-2011 and you wouldn't believe the amount of retro games/hardware that was donated over time. While working there I got a Nes, Snes, SMS, Sega CD model 2, 32x, 3d0, Atari 2600, intellivision, and slew of games for every system up the 5th gen. I got lucky when I started to collect games back then. I'm actually happy that I didn't have to pay these prices back when I was collecting games back then. However times have changed, I still go the good-will I used to work at and they are saying they don't even get in N64/Ps1/Dreamcast hardware or games anymore. Ian and Pat have stated countless times, this is a collectors market now and if you don't have money to get into this hobby, well your shit out of luck.

[@imluvinyourmum]

The guy on the left is exactly like the manager I had when I worked at EB games, I can totally see him arguing with kids and weirdo's at the counter but doing it well haha

[@DigitalxxxFr34k]

This is how i plan out when I go to mom and pop shops and even pawn shops when i go game hunting I never expect to pay full price unless i only walk out with 1 or 2 games, and what i normally do is i always check out a store first before i make my first purchase from them. Phase one, I check out the store, I look for some main stream titles, castlevanias, marios, final fantasys, zeldas , and so on, the titles every one wants non the less, even if i already have the titles, I make a list in my head of prices and i go home and check price charting and ebay, if they are AT ebay prices or 5% under or more I alway come back in. Phase 2, I try to always find at least 3 or more titles I want in my collection n pull up a calculator, add them together and take 25%, 20% and 15% off the final price ( not including tax )and put those 3 numbers in my head. Phase 3, Go up to the counter and haggle, (make sure you have cash its easier to haggle if you say you have cash), and I'll say will you let me take these off your hands for "the 25% off price" and ill go down the line of the 3 numbers I have in my head, 95% of the time I can always get them for the 15% off price, some times I get lucky and get them for the 25% off price, its hit or miss. What also helps a lot too is if you bring in trade in's of titles you don't want anymore or happen to pick up at a thrift store or flea market cheap, one store near me gives me 50% value trade it on top of 25% off purchase when i buy 3 or more games. always leave with a stack lol

[@williamburgoon1834]

pats face when he said crhawa trigger and I found that camera change funny

[@Maneras03]

This is how anything worth getting works I don’t collect video games but I like hitting garage sales and flea markets for cheap tools, sometimes you might but find somebody that wants to get rid of everything and strike a couple deals.

[@ryotech11]

Is Ian a T-Rex? lmao

[@thepokekid01]

I can understand if a person just wants to play chrono trigger or something like that, but if that is the case... buy the rerelease on DS, on the virtual console, or many of the several places you can find that game. Some JLN or licensed game that will never be re-released again, I can understand, but the games mentioned in the example are all ones you can rebuy, (Plus there is always emulation on those limbo license games)

[@Agamemnon2]

+thepokekid01 Agreed, you could buy a DS and a copy of Chrono Trigger for it for less than what the SNES version sells for (seen it selling between 60 and 100 euros on SNES and the DS version is around 30-50 plus another 30ish for a system). With that game, it specifically seems that the cheapest way to play it off an original cart or disc is to learn Japanese, the Super Famicom version seems to be cheapest by far.

[@TruExtentChannel]

4:45 I can atest to this statement. Even if I took forever looking through the games (sorry, I get carried away sometimes...) I was helped by whoever was in the store, be it Ian or one of the other guys. I found some good choices, got future recommendations, got advice on hardware fixes and held fun conversations. With that said, it's probably also good that the prices are where they are, else I would just have a field day and walk out of the store with everything; the high prices help to limit my choices and search for hidden gems.

[@GamingFromFinland]

"I like driving. Driving is very nice, especially with a nice car, so I have decided to own a new Bentley. However, I don't like to pay as much as others." Seems logical.

[@SmarkAngel]

I don't do business for people who ask for a "Reasonable Price" up front. It's ALWAYS a lowball offer.

[@skabcat242]

This makes me glad I collected years ago before things got out of hand.

[@MainlySpoons]

I started collecting for the SNES recently and have only bought my games at a retro store

[@Asquaredgamereviews]

So let me tell a story about Ian being an all around cool dude. My wife and I used to work at a farmers market down in Pacific Beach close to the other luna location so once a month on sunday we would go in and buy games and chat up Ian or any of the other great employees there. Normally its pretty slow on sundays but one sunday we came in to a packed house and Ian is there we talk he tells us he is stressin because he doesnt have change. Luckily we had a money box in our van so we ran back grabbed it and gave him change. So I had some trade value he gave me extra ten percent on it he didnt have to and I didnt expect it. So moral is be nice and good shit happens.

[@Jeffmetal42]

It's that damn Loch Ness Monsta!!! He always come around asking fuh tree fiddy. I said ,"Damnit monstah, don't come round here askin fa no tree fiddy." My wife gave him a dollah, she was so scared. Now he gone come back and expect more.

[@flyingerasehead]

+Jeffmetal 42 I thought he'd go away if I gave him a dollar.

[@Jeffmetal42]

+flyingerasehead course not, he gonna come back and expect you have more.

[@justkeepitoriginal]

Fleemarket madness!

[@Mario_N64]

I have a mint, working Vectrex, that I got for Christmas 1983. I almost gave it away in the early 90s. Ridiculous offers are so annoying that you just end up keeping the item.

[@dirtykazoo2465]

I got lucky flipping once. Found a factory sealed Super Mario Bros. 2 in a thrift shop for $3-4 (can't remember which ATM) and sold it on ebay for about $240. Otherwise anything I find is either priced the same as or over what they are worth to sell. It's cool to find something I want for what it's worth and not have to pay shipping, but the flip market just doesn't exist anymore where I am.

[@HyperFuze]

While watching The Nintendo Quest, the guy went into retail retro stores and was wanting to get many games in bulk for 50 cents and $1 each. Sorry buddy, but if I am the store owner I don't care that you're going for a complete NES set. You are going to pay what I put on the sticker.

[@gzeusone6532]

+Hyper Fuze Or at very least something close to sticker.

[@ShopkeepMike]

+Hyper Fuze Exactly! Little off topic, but I didn't like that movie. To me, all it's going to do is create more hype and mislead people into thinking that they can build a full set in only a MONTH. The movie should just be renamed "How to spend thousands of dollars in only 30 days"

[@HyperFuze]

+GZEUS ONE Yeah maybe a slight discount. I'm not selling $10+ games for a buck each

[@SuperHandyman100]

+Declaritive I'm still working on my NES collection, and what is a full NES set, you have to take a lot into consideration, what is a complete collection to someone, do they only want to complete the official games licensed by Nintendo? Are they gonna add imports like Europe Only Releases, or just stick with North America, do they wanna add the unlicenced, the homebrews that are still being made and putting on carts today? Do you count bootlegs? What about unreleased games that are leaked and then put on a reproduction cartridge?

[@subzero8679]

Not if it's a ridiculous price. I'd laugh in your face.

[@jimf2399]

Part of the love for the hobby is the hunt. If I could just walk into a store and by all the games I wanted for dirt cheap it wouldn't be the same. Same reason I don't emulate. If I really want a game right now, I'll support my local shops and pay their price. Last week I found Symphony of the Night for $2 and Mario Sunshine and Phantasy Star Online for $3 each. I was super happy to add them to my collection for that price because I earned it in a sense. Especially after almost missing SOTN in a stack of CDs.

[@jimf2399]

*buy

[@98167]

good monologue Ian. Pat thanks for making the screen whole of "Ian" going on about people undermining the cost of a game. I always curious of how "Small" or "Big" the studios was? I thought it was about 7 x 3 studio? like how Ian hit his elbow on the door knob. "Holy Shit, there's 2 doors back there"? lol. Great series & great store Ian "Luna Video Games" on Newport Ave!

[@RETROMANIAToronto]

I own a video game store myself n I get a lot of new collectors like that the worse is when they as for a common ass Mario Duck Hunt I tell them $10 they get all shocked like n tell me y should be $1 or $2 then they ask for popular games n get more shocked when they hear $20+ n expect me 2 give them less cause they think cause its old it has to be cheap

[@omerhasa]

I love these vids

[@WendeXTX]

I think it at times is hard to gauge the value of games now. This is clear when looking on ebay when you see lots of buy-it-nows for a game and no one is buying them. Looking online I'm surprised that the going for price for early release games like Smash Melee on Gamecube or Crash 1 on ps1 make higher prices than i expected on auctions, especially for how common they are

[@traviswright456]

Now chrono is going for $1,000 cib. Harder and harder to find.

[@Frostydez69]

Keep it real 🙌🏽 "its not my problem"

[@Cacti88]

sold my Sunset Riders for almost nothing at a garage sale a few years back ugh!

[@DrewberTravels]

I found a final fantasy mystic quest sealed in the box at a garage sale for a buck. Yea... I immediately went and sold it online.

[@turnerlarson12]

Holy shit! Just checked ebay for Sunset Riders. When the hell did this game get so expensive?! I had no idea! Better take care of my copy!

[@samurailv1]

+Turner Larson Simon Greedwell, the Jew got ahold of all of that game's copies!

[@majorramsey3k]

Most people do not have a clue anymore how economics work. Supply and demand.

[@Manoau2002]

If a nintendo game (SNES, Genesis, N64 etc.) sells for a certain price on ebay I except to pay a price close to that amount from a local store. Where I have a bit of a problem with stores charging ebay prices is with stuff that is not as common and not as collectable. (Ex. Commodore computer stuff, Vectrex etc.) For example a local store had a few Vectrex games and a system someone brought in. I bought the system but the store wouldn't cut me a deal on the games. I live in an area with a small population where I am mostly likely either the only Vectrex collector or one of a very few. It would be very difficult for the store to sell those games - they will most likely hold up space on their shelves for years to come.

[@MrElijahMurray]

At my local game store (at least it was until it closed down last month), they charged about $30 more than Ebay charges for each game. How'd you like a copy of Super Mario and Duck Hunt for $35? At least that's what it would be if they ever had a copy - only 15 million copies of Golf and occasionally a cartridge of Donkey Kong Jr. Math. These people should be fucking grateful for this store.

[@donskiver]

I still have my copy of chrono trigger signed by THE Nobou Uematsu. Had the game since I was 13 and got it signed at a convention when I was 33.

[@KesorodaBlk]

3:05 Little Samson, factory sealed for about $30,000.00, VS finding a sealed copy for the bargain price of 500.00. yeah, okay, dude. This is up there right as I'm typing this!

[@rapaladude]

You could say I'm late to restart my snes collection, but through thieves, bad weather, and bad luck in general, I've lost my collection 3 or 4 times. The thing is, I pretty much only want games that I played when I was a kid. Dkc series, mario world 1 & 2, ect.. They're fun games at reasonable prices, and personally, I have never seen a dck cart that I wouldn't pay the price tag for, those are priceless games that represent a priceless time in my life. I've since gotten quite a few of the ones I had when I was a kid but the elusive Boogerman... Great times... I think that's what the collecting should be about, no matter what you're collecting, it should be fun and enjoyable, not a cutthroat race to the finish.

[@sergiovalencia3031]

The prices are high because of ebay and amazon they started buying all the retro game inventory for pennies on the dollar to dry up the supply and that drove up the prices

[@theghastlygamer5326]

Example. My store sales nes one controller for $75. The value on that as of posting this is $28. Online you can get nes , 2 controllers, and two games for $60

[@Dannyfr33sh]

There u go Ian, don't you let those opportunist get over on you!!

[@shalifi7774]

word. My copy of Final Fantasy 3 was stolen. And I sold my copy of Secret of Mana for a little over $100 on eBay back when I needed some cash

[@I_NEED_MONEY_]

Man...I feel you but I have been to my local game store and have been like "this goes consistently for $80 on eBay, can I get $20?" and the answer is always "oh, people pay a bunch for a game they remember as a kid, you can't go by eBay". So, fuck that shit Ian.

[@chrishesotian1364]

im pretty cozy with my collection of about 30 snes games. when i picked up the system, the game i got with it was Turn and Burn: No Fly Zone. its a great combat flight sim that i bought on a gamble and it turned out to be my favorite of the genre! :D

[@AizensPlan]

Chrono Trigger? $80 dollars? Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Sexacutioner]

Been collecting before it became trendy. My rule is its only worth what I'm willing to pay. I rarely buy from stores anymore and go to garage sales. way better prices and it feels way more satisfying finding a diamond in the rough.

[@97Retrogamenerd]

Hey Ian, I am new to NES collecting. Hook up a listener and give me these 3 games for cheap. Online is a rediculous price, looking for you to give me a reasonable price. I'm looking for Bonk's Adventure Duck tales 2 Nintendo World Championships 1990

[@stevenclark5173]

+97Retrogamenerd Lol I have a boxed copy of Ducktales 2 just sitting packed up in my dad's place. Maybe I should try to sell that thing sometime.

[@97Retrogamenerd]

+Steven Clark sell to me for $10. online prices are rediculous.

[@SuperHandyman100]

+97Retrogamenerd I lost it at NWC

[@emobassist]

Ian seemed a lot more chill back in the day I guess Luna really has made him extra salty over the years

[@jbfarley]

He also had a lot of personal problems, health and deaths

[@VVhistory]

true Ian. just Chrono trigger costs over 100$ in any store. thats the problem with new "collectors" they dont know value and thats an issue because you will never find Chrono trigger for 5$.

[@turbografx7]

The thing I have noticed with newer collectors gripping about prices is the ridiculous craigslist ads they make. Stop cluttering up craigslist with ads, acting like your a good guy and people should sell you games for next to nothing because it's a moral issue!!!

[@StefLeRef]

People like to give remasters/remakes a hard time but honestly,when i lost all my SNES games they are what really helped me out to own games i really liked as a kid for cheap. I'll gladly play my superior Chrono Trigger DS copy while others pays ridiculous prices for the original. :)

[@ImSquiggs]

Well put Ian. I am sick of all these people telling me "oh it's just inflated right now, it's not really worth that much" for all major titles. The last time I remember talking about this was Mega Man. You really think demand for something like Mega Man is just going to drop off one day? Everyone wants Mega Man in their collection (except Pat apparently, haha), that's why it costs what it does.

[@TheDarkHighlander]

Thing i find annoying is that people get these games on Ebay for the going rate with the intention of selling them off again at 40% or above the price they paid for regardless of how overpriced it may seem.

[@johnschultz239]

I hope you guys get an online storefront up and running. I miss shopping at luna. I shopped there all the time when I was stationed at camp pendleton

[@ProjectTony]

I got chrono trigger for the PS1 bundled with final fantasy 4 for $44. It may not be the original version with better loading times but it was way more affordable compared to $80.

[@milesdoodling1054]

Ah cool you got the retro amiibos

[@SmarkAngel]

Yep. There no phrase that makes me ignore a buyer more than when they email me asking for a "Reasonable" price. It ALWAYS means you're a cheapass.

[@Aeonterbor]

I've just finished training up the R.O.B Amiibo I'm going to send into the #CUPodcast so expect to see a little buddy in your mailbox sometime.

[@James-gc3ii]

Americans should be thankful they can just walk into a retail store and buy NES/SNES games from a guy like Ian. Being in a small country, I have to buy everything online and it sucks majorly. I'd love to be able to just waltz into a shop that sells stuff like that. If I want anything older than PS2, I have to find it online and pay crazy shipping!

[@nekad2000]

"If you go to a retail setting, you're going to pay more than if you find it dirt cheap"

[@MakeAGameWithMe]

do you have a website for your store?

[@THECH0SEN0NE82]

miss the days of being able to walk into a used game store and finding most games i wanted at SUPER CHEAP prices.. its pretty depressing actually.

[@Bwelrick]

Actually if a game is 80 on eBay and you sell it to them for 50. They would make very little after eBay and PayPal fees. I would sell an 80 dollar game privately to someone for 50 every day of the week.

[@Bwelrick]

Packaging. Postage. eBay fee. PayPal fee. 50 is fair. But not for a retail location of course.

[@JeffCompass]

Game stores won't give you ridiculous deals. People who know jack shit about games at garage sales do. Lol

[@Mokujo]

I will say, it's okay to haggle with the right context clues. If the place is right, and the markup is legitimately very high, and the product is in a certain condition, *and* it's not sold for quite some time, you can respectfully bring the price down. Local game store had a copy of Melee, no box, but in *perfect* condition. $60. The cheapest example I could find online was $40, in worse condition. It had been there for a month, likely turning people off without the case. I know they have to make money- I kindly asked if they'd take 50 and they did. Just know your shit before you start asking for discounts lol

[@dannyzep92]

I found out the hard way. The secondary market for anything is pretty unforgivable, I didn't do my research on some old car parts and got laughed at by 4 or 5 people. Moral of the story do your research and find what you need to get what you want.

[@cj694x2]

I usually buy lots to build my collection and sell off the games that I don't need or want on eBay. I always set my prices right around the lowest you can find on eBay for whatever game it is, but I still get assholes who try and offer me like 2/3 or half the price and want free shipping to boot. I always just ignore them and don't respond to their emails, but I want so badly to tell them just to fuck off.

[@MadameSomnambule]

North American PS1 games tend to be pretty pricey too. Not so much for Japanese titles unless they're rare, from what I've seen.

[@rickyrico80]

Wait, what?! Chrono is $80 in the US? It's € 200 cart only in the Netherlands, 300 for a decend boxed version with the booklet and map poster.

[@duouk2000]

+rickyrico80 That's usually the case. It's generally cheaper to import directly from the states even with their insane shipping prices and import charges.

[@NexusVerbal]

Why do so many people say KRAH-NO Trigger? It's CROW-NO, guys.

[@NexusVerbal]

Karnage Fails NO NIGGA

[@donskiver]

Do you pronounce chronology "crow-nology" or "krawn-ology"? Is it the latter? That's probably why people do that. How about complaining on the pronunciation of "epoch". I hear "eee-pock" from people when it's clearly supposed to be "epic" as in chronological epochs. But in all honesty, who fucking cares? You know what they're talking about when they say it and that's the point of communication so just leave it at that.

[@BenVanatoo]

The Japanese phonetics are クロノ・トリガ "Kurono Toriga" which would translate to "Crow-no Trigger". 👍 English verbiage is irrelevant.

[@jubjub444]

seen a game store selling chronotrigger for $250 (no case included)

[@thatguyontheright1]

It's simple. if you do not want to pay the $80 for a game, shop around, be patient. Look around on Facebook sale groups in your area, and to where you would be willing to travel. Go to yard sales, thrift stores, etc. Ebay is not the only place you can get games. I got Chrono Trigger for $1 a year or two ago at a yard sale. I know it seems wrong to take advantage of people who don't know what they have, but their loss is your gain. It's capitalism and it works. The ones on the Facebook groups who say "I know what I have so don't low ball me" and have everything priced at the highest people are asking for the game, they are doing the same thing.

[@josephbearup4787]

got my copy of Chrono from being a cable guy, seeing a customer with a copy and hooking them up with free HBO. and they said take it . Free but i sold it already. sold my 120+ nes games cause i was broke. and now just getting back into collecting and see the prices are 2× higher then when i sold all my games. just pd $36 for SuperMario Allstars/SuperMario World then $28 for Link to the past. But keep looking cause Scored a PS1 with FF7 and a genesis with CastleVania Bloodlines and Rock&Roll racing for $15 so itll come around

[@cj694x2]

+TGOTR I got Shining Force II complete and in great condition for nothing, because I bought a $100 lot of Genesis games and resold everything but Shining Force II. Got all my money back and an awesome game.

[@josephbearup4787]

+cj694x2 ive been collecting since late 90s (35 yr old now) and have seen first hand the craziness around retro gaming. sold entire collection( toploaders, boxed NES and boxed Rob System, Virtual Boy with 12 of what 14 or 15 games ,Atari Jaguar , Sega Saturn, Dream Cast with 50+ games. all this stuff ill never replace with out spending alot and i know that. but like these guys said im not expecting a deal on games but i will try to talk anyone down especially with retro games. worst they can say is NO

[@cj694x2]

Joseph Bearup I know exactly what you mean, I'm 35 as well and have watched this retro-collecting craze get out of control. I've had large collections of games and now I've sold most everything off. The great thing about eBay is that just about anything is available at any time, as long as you've got the cash. I don't need to own every game I want anymore. If I ever get the craving to play Chrono Trigger again, I can always just pay the $80 on eBay, play it, and then resell it back on eBay to get most of my $80 right back.

[@tr1bes]

+cj694x2 You could also buy the Everdrive which is steep but you can played most games at anytime and keeping forever. You don't have to mess with eBay of buying and then reselling. Time and money are precious.

[@ZeromasterVT]

I understand why some games are more pricey, trust me I've been looking for a copy of megaman 5 for years to complete my megaman set for the nes. It's my least favorite in the series and on a good day costs $80, am I willing to pay that much? Hell no but I don't complain when I see it go for that price. I'd rather bide my time and see if I can find it in the wild rather then try to lowball someone who i'm just going to end up insulting and lose that relationship as a buyer. The only time I lowball is when everything in a store is overpriced, I've had to say to a few store owners, "Look, if I wanted to pay ebay buy it now prices with shipping, I'd go to Ebay. I understand you have a business to run but your prices are off" (Keep in mind this only applies to re-sellers that overprice EVERYTHING and know this, there are plenty of game stores and re-sellers that are fair and even willing to work out deals, this is not about them just about the assholes who think they can rip-off anyone to make a quick buck).

[@manvstech3282]

It's all about supply and demand but it does suck when you want a game that you used to own and have to pay twice as much than you did back in the day :/

[@syrup3299]

You know i have this copy of sonic 1 that i got for a DIRTY cheap price and im starting to wonder if i'm gonna keep it or sell it for alot of money...

[@Dankcatvacs]

got my chrono trigger for $8 fast cash pawn shop but those days are gone most pawn shops dont do shit with cart gamse unless they know what they are and want a shit ton for them so nobody brings in new old shit

[@devilmikey00]

Let's be honest if you aren't familiar with this stuff the prices can be shocking. I mean if you're 35 you grew up with the NES onward and were old enough to enjoy all of it. The prices just seem unreasonable to a newbie because this stuff isn't really that old. It's easy to be taken by surprise at how pricey it is. That said you either accept reality and pay the price or bow out of the hobby and look towards re-releases or emulation. The prices being high sucks but you aren't owed a cheaper price because you don't like the reality of it.

[@larryinc64]

For me (I'm 20 - stated in 2009) My limit is $30 for an average game and $60 for a most wanted title (Mario RPG for example) For a game that is out of my range, (Earthbound) I'll just get it on VC or emulator to play it, and hope I eventually find it in GoodWill for $3.

[@redsox258]

i couldn't sell mario sunshine for 20$ offline i was actually really surprised

[@horsermchead2504]

I mean I will try to get a deal if the cart is scuffed but like at max I will ask about like a $1 off

[@RyanMartinez]

Use this next time: "Are you my wife? Are you my close family? No? Then no special deals." I mean, what kind of relationship do these customers think they have with you when they ask these things? lol

[@Slightlyevil]

If it's on ebay for 80 and sells I don't think it should be 80 in store. I usually discount taking into consideration ebay fees and time.

[@JoeyWheelerKaiba]

Collect for a different system that isn't NES or SNES or N64 too. That helps. DS is what I am collecting for personally.

[@blackmagefelix6548]

I would buy all kinds of things from Ian's online store.

[@samh9477]

I just had this happen to me on EBay was selling Skies of Arcadia legends for $52. guy offered $35 I told him no the game is worth more how's $45 he said I don't wanna spend that much on a gc game, I'm like well shit not my problem I'm not giving it away.

[@pxlsicle]

+Sam H 50 is a good deal, too. That game will move at 70 all day.

[@dontegraves5051]

I wouldn't pay it either. I'd just do with out. Gamecube games aren't worth that kind of money to me, save for a select few. It's not unreasonable to move on if you don't want to pay a certain price.

[@benandres9627]

You shouldn't be too annoyed by new collectors or people who have been collecting for awhile but refuse to pay high prices. I have been collecting for awhile now and refuse to spend more than around 10 dollars for a game. Instead I rummage around in goodwills and craigslist finding great deals. It is so much more satisfying than retail stores. retail stores have such a limited supply so their prices are inflated. if every single person would go in and donate their games prices would plummet because retail supply would skyrocket.