According to legend, Achilles' mother (whom we saw briefly at the movie's beginning) was the sea goddess Thetis. Because of her, he possessed superhuman strength. And when he was a baby she dipped him in the river Styx, which made his body impervious to weapons. The only part that wasn't protected was the heel of one of his feet, where his mother held him when she dipped him in the river. In the West, having such an unexpected weakness is called having an Achilles' Heel.
@jarlnils43510 ай бұрын
The invulnerable part was invented by the romans. In the original version, he was just faster and more skilled than anyone else. But he killed some invulnerable enemies. The guy with the weak spot was Memnon the Aitiopian. And than there was Kyknos from Lykia. Achilles killed Memnon by stabbing his mortal point and he choked Kyknos with the old king's own helmet. Achilles died, because the arrow which hit his ankle, was dipped into the blood of Hydra. Herakles had offered Apollon his poisoned arrows and Apollon gave one to Paris.
@hodarinundu10 ай бұрын
I like how in the movie they have Achilles break the shafts of the arrows that pierce his body, and the only one left is the one in his heel- clever in-universe way to explain how the legend started, even if that was a later invention. @@jarlnils435
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
Actually, in the original Greek's written, it was said that Achilles' left foot (I think it was left) was his weakness, because when Thetis baptized him in the water, grabbing him by his ankle, the whole foot (plus the ankle) remained outside of the water. "Ankle" is a wrong translation.
@alxdava20047 ай бұрын
Legends. Actually he originated from around Tulcea, Romania today. He was a dacian hired by the Greeks to help in the attack against Troy
@andrescastro552010 ай бұрын
That rare film where Sean Bean's character wasn't killed off. The singing at the end of the reaction is the best.
@DarknessIsThePath10 ай бұрын
He died shortly after during the credits, well let us pretend he did cannot break tradition lmao
@DavideMontingelliOfficial10 ай бұрын
And he play the most diehard achean hero of Homer
@BobbaDons10 ай бұрын
@@DavideMontingelliOfficial They missed a great chance on making a sequel "the odyssey" with Sean Bean would have been great.
@Amadeo79010 ай бұрын
41:15 “why are you killing the dead” he wasn’t dead, he was drowning on his own blood. Hector saved him from a death that would have taken a very painful minute.
@joedirt68810 ай бұрын
"If they ever tell my story let them say I walked with giants, men rise and fall like the Winter wheat but these names will never die... Let them say I lived in the time of Hector, tamer of horses...let them say I lived in the time of Achilles..." Odysseus
@GilbertGaylord10 ай бұрын
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@marius43903 ай бұрын
que depresion ver lo bajo que ha caido la humanidad
@DanceySteveYNWA10 ай бұрын
The youngsters getting embarrassed by the sex scenes and trying to say it's Babu who loves seeing it ,again 😂
@lucassmith188610 ай бұрын
Lol they always do that... raeen does it all the time lol
@MissMarchHare10 ай бұрын
Babu is a man of passion who lives his life to the fullest and....like any wise elder, likes to shock and embarrass the youngsters by reminding them he has lived a full life. Youth is wasted on the young.
@Jasmine-iw3wi9 ай бұрын
They don't have such scenes in their films. The most nudity was a woman's back 😂
@august.sunday10 ай бұрын
They applauded Hector playing with his infant son. So wholesome ❤
@pscm944710 ай бұрын
You should show them Alexander (2004)! I'd like to see their reaction when he reaches the end of his trip!
@BobbaDons10 ай бұрын
right!? from Greece to ... well i won't ruin the surprise...
@christos32809 ай бұрын
Well he probably ends up near where our beloved villagers are from haha
@Trazynn10 ай бұрын
Those old men are phenomenal actors. Brian Cox and Brendan Gleeson. They really nailed those kings.
@cavaliothorson775510 ай бұрын
And who could forget the talented Mr. O'Toole?
@SeanSenior-f8b10 ай бұрын
Sean Bean and Brian Cox both worked together on Sharpe.
@billbillinger211710 ай бұрын
Always genuine. Why I love watching these reactions. You guys rock.
@chapmje10 ай бұрын
The reaction here to the story of Achilles thousands of years after the legend was created is exactly the theme of this story and what Achilles was fighting for.
@jedenzet10 ай бұрын
depends what you understand by "legend". Troy was actually found on the western coast of current turkey
@ansibarius463310 ай бұрын
@@jedenzet(S)he speaks about the story of Achilles, not about the existence of Troy itself.
@ryanhampson67310 ай бұрын
@@jedenzet many legends are based on facts. While the legends are probably inflated Troy did exist and with the means that this battle probably happened. There very well could have been an actual Achilles that was a great warrior but obviously he wasn’t dipped in a magic river by the gods.
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
@@jedenzet The descrpition that Homer made of Troy did not find corrispondence in the city they found near Smirne, Turkey. Many have proposed that the city of Troy may be found in other places. Someone also hypotesized that it was in Finland.
@pscm944710 ай бұрын
It's such an important historical event in the western world that we still use these expressions : a "Trojan horse" : meaning a ruse to let something enter somewhere it shouldn't be by disguising it as a gift. The "Achilles heel" of someone : meaning its weakness. It's also worth noting that the legend says that Rome was founded by descendants of the fleeing Trojans that we see at the end ; so in this perspective, we could answer Babu that what is left is the legend of this battle and the eventual creation of Rome.
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
I'm copying a comment you might find interesting. (Aeneas) He went there and was a king amongst the Latins. His successor Romulus founded Rome (with his older brother/twin Remus). Interesting, researches have been made, and it turned out that a very rare DNA syndrome, affecting only men, is quite common in the area of Smirne, (Troy was believed to be in modern Turkey, in the Smirne area) affecting 20% of adult males there. The only other region of the whole World were this rare syndrome is present in significative percentual is the area of the city of Rome (not the all region of Lazio, only the city of Rome and it's surroundings) where it is present in 10% of the male population. This means that, genetically, people from the Troades (as is called the region surrounding Smirne) and Romans are, in fact, genetically related. So Aeneas' legend may be truth.
@dharma166610 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: the man at the end of the movie that Paris hands the sword of Troy to Aeneous goes on his famous Aeneid where he leads the survivors of Troy to a nice fertile land in Italy...his descendants Romulus and Remus would go on the Found the City of Rome, and centuries later Rome would conquer the Greeks, in a way avenging their Trojan ancestors
@jonathonfrazier662210 ай бұрын
Thats just ancient propaganda utilized by the Romans. They are not in actuality descended from Troy, which was in actuality just a city in a vast Hittite Empire that came into political opposition with the Greek Civilization.
@adamnesico10 ай бұрын
@@jonathonfrazier6622not in the hittite empire. In such case, they would have had to figth the entire hittite kingdom. Troy was the capitol of a kingdom vassal to the hittites.
@dharma166610 ай бұрын
@@jonathonfrazier6622 propaganda or not, Roma Invicta
@jonathonfrazier662210 ай бұрын
@@dharma1666 Rome fell underfoot to wild Northern barbarians and may it lie forever below their heel.
@dharma166610 ай бұрын
@@jonathonfrazier6622 and yet they all try to emulate it and be the next Rome, and the empire fell to the Turks in 1453
@camrondirossi324910 ай бұрын
Jason and the argonauts . The classic old one would be good to show them too 😊
@abc123tiktok10 ай бұрын
The Illiad one of the most famous stories ever told. People complain about Troy not being accurate historically or that props were incorrect but that is Hollywood. Its a fictional story that had literal gods fight in the war. The main purpose of Illiad when it was first orated was to teach Greek people about what it means to be Greek and great deeds they can accomplish. Its a story to inspire its people to strive to live up to its heroes.
@abc123tiktok10 ай бұрын
@@adamscott7354 I am very lost. Troy was directed by Wolfgang Petersen, screen play by David Benioff and produced by Wolfgang Petersen,Diana Rathbun, Colin Wilson. So why are you talking about Ridley Scott?
@adamscott735410 ай бұрын
@@abc123tiktok You're right, whoops, my mistake!
@segovax285210 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to see their reaction to 300!
@WinnieTheJew10 ай бұрын
Aman has new glasses! Looking good pal! Let's enjoy the film boys! 🎉
@plundalord244810 ай бұрын
Gotta show them an epic movie like this in a theatre setting. Big screen and surround sound
@alexiaNBC10 ай бұрын
A little context: -Paris became smitten by Helen after the goddess Aphrodite was gifted a golden apple by him over the other Greek Goddesses in the famous Judgement of Paris. Aphrodite rewarded his decision by giving him a woman to love. -Achilles was considered a powerful warrior as his mother dipped him into the mythical river Styx when he was a baby. However, she only dipped him up to his ankles hence how he was brought down by an arrow to his heels. -The war lasted ten years. -This war was written to be a civil war among the Greek Gods with many taking different sides (ex. Poseidon fighting for the Greeks, Aphrodite for the Trojans) -Aeneas who takes the sword of Troy was a central figure who founded the region on the Italian peninsula that would eventually become Rome, which would conquer Greece hundreds of years later.
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
Aeneas did not "found" central Italy. He went there and was a king amongst the Latins. His successor Romulus founded Rome (with his older brother/twin Remus). Interesting, researches have been made, and it turned out that a very rare DNA syndrome, affecting only men, is quite common in the area of Smirne, (Troy was believed to be in modern Turkey, in the Smirne area) affecting 20% of adult males there. The only other region of the whole World were this rare syndrome is present in significative percentual is the area of the city of Rome (not the all region of Lazio, only the city of Rome and it's surroundings) where it is present in 10% of the male population. This means that, genetically, people from the Troades (as is called the region surrounding Smirne) and Romans are, in fact, genetically related. So Aeneas' legend may be truth.
@ebbhead2010 ай бұрын
Achillies doesn't regret killing Hector. The crying was to show Achillies got his humanity back after talking to King Priam. We get a bit of the anger and hate that filled Achillies after Hector killed his cousin ( maybe even his lover to some accounts ) but in the Iliad it has a chapter on Achillies despair and rage after the events. Lets just say, he was dark and not himan anymore after his cousin/lover was slain. King Priam brought that back. The crying at the corpse of Hector shows that. As always to show these stories in full it would have to be a 1-3 part story like LOTR. Its all way bigger than one film could show.
@michaelwilder99389 ай бұрын
Lover? Tf?
@ebbhead209 ай бұрын
@@michaelwilder9938 theres a few historians that don't go with the cousin story. The guy was his lover acording to some.. . Makes sense as back then most men had sex with other men. And formed deeper relationships with other men. Women was sort of the second choice after a man. Also thr whole gay and lesbian thinh seem to start in greece. All pottery that had gay acts on them was 90% of the time sure to come from Greece. They definitely have the oldest stories about homosexuality. They even have an island named after the act dont they... 😏
@michaelwilder99389 ай бұрын
@@ebbhead20 Weird that I never knew that, thanks for the information! Haha
@chimrichulds10 ай бұрын
Really good choice of movie. It was so interesting seeing someone exposed to the Iliad for the first time.
@MissMarchHare10 ай бұрын
And through them Achilles is remembered again...and will be for another 2000 yrs
@chimrichulds10 ай бұрын
Personally, I would have chosen a life of peace on a beach in the Greek Isles, but that wouldn't have made a very good story.@@MissMarchHare
@michaelandcarina_personal10 ай бұрын
And thousands of years later, tribal villages in India and city boys from America like me still know the name Achilles😮
@bms201010 ай бұрын
Only because of this movie and our feet.
@michaelandcarina_personal8 ай бұрын
@@bms2010 Homer has entered the chat
@seraph675810 ай бұрын
As a little boy these were my favorite kinds of stories to read. Very cool seeing it depicted in some way.
@ryanhampson67310 ай бұрын
According to the myth Achilles was dipped into the River Styx and that made him nearly invincible, but when his mother Thetis dipped him into the water she held him by his heel and that part was never put into the water and so that was his weak spot. Even today 2,500 years later in the western world we can refer to someone’s weakness as their “Achilles heel”
@fosterbennington640510 ай бұрын
Babu’s song at the end is a very interesting one. Those who know why will know, and those who do not will not
@sebastiendoquin91810 ай бұрын
Homer's "romanticised" account of the Trojan War has had a major impact on European history. For example, in medicine we talk about "Achilles' heel", and when we describe a trap as a "Trojan horse" even this term is used in computing! Troy did exist (during the Bronze Age) and we suspect that the city was attacked and burnt. From France
@Valkyraw10 ай бұрын
Troy has nothing to do with Europe though, its Anatolian and belongs to turkish history.
@MissMarchHare10 ай бұрын
@@Valkyrawturkey did not exist at the time. It is Greek history.
@economieliberale518910 ай бұрын
@@Valkyraw This is absolutely not Turkish history, it is the history of European Greek civilization. Turkish history begins in 1476 with Islam, what precedes this year is European history.
@cavaliothorson775510 ай бұрын
I'm truly excited for these 3 to be experiencing such an epic tale.
@michaelwilder99389 ай бұрын
So glad you guys watched this one, was a favorite of mine growing up
@SLAPERZZ110 ай бұрын
Achilles was a legend, remembered throughout the ages for what he did. Unmatched in skill and war, he was the man
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
53:20 Babu Bhai is always very emphatetic. I like him.
@alexhunt848610 ай бұрын
Finally! I have been waiting for them to react to this film for some time now. I'm quite happy with the results
@SethBarbrickАй бұрын
Well that war isn't completely forgotten, the Iliad is still around, the Iliad, Odeasy and Bible are the only 3 books that survived the first dark age and the Bible is the only one to survive the Flood
@saladspinner320010 ай бұрын
Can I say, those glasses look awesome! Also, I've been following these gentlemen's reactions for quite some time, and I've come to believe that the sandal-genre is their favorite type of movies. Always a pleasure!
@DebzLife10 ай бұрын
Missed Aman. Looks like He got new glasses? They suit his look!
@michaelnewman746810 ай бұрын
Ooh, it's you again. They didn't post a reaction to Spider-Man. Apparently I was wrong. It looks like they post a random movie first, and only then from Patreon. 😃
@DebzLife10 ай бұрын
@@michaelnewman7468 they'll post it soon I'm sure
@highlandergunn924010 ай бұрын
I really liked the song at the end. Very True
@natmanprime429510 ай бұрын
great stuff lads, enjoyed the song at the end
@MrSmithla10 ай бұрын
That the movie shows the Greek commanders having different motives is attested in the story. Troy was a wealthy trading city with well-made walls. However this fight happened in actual History, it was on a much smaller scale. Greece was relatively sparsely populated and didn’t have much fertile soil. Neither side could have or support the numbers shown. The truth at the heart of this story is, most likely, a simple smash-and-grab operation that went afoul. The Greeks wanted to expand their trading network and saw rich Troy as ripe for the picking. What the Greeks lacked, though, was proper siege equipment. They had no way to breach Troy’s walls. This is the story of, most probably, a very long and mostly boring siege. The Greeks laid waste to the surrounding areas then sat down to wait Troy’s surrender. It seems like some sort of trickery may have been used to get Greeks inside the city.
@praevasc429910 ай бұрын
Well, in Homer's story, the siege is indeed described as having taken ten years. Even if it's a poetic exaggeration, it must have been in popular consciousness and in the legends as a very long siege, so in reality it was likely much longer than how it was depicted in the movie.
@MrSmithla10 ай бұрын
@@praevasc4299 From my understanding, we only have the one burnt layer of the ruins of Troy that supports a possible conquest. The burnt layer seemed to cover the entire city, so it’s unlikely to have been a fire started inside the city by accident. The problem with even the 10 year figure given in the story is that it doesn’t jibe with what we know of hoplite warfare. Hoplites weren’t professional soldiers. Technically, they’re militia, including even the famed Spartans. The usual style of hoplite combat would be a group of hoplites from one city-state would shoulder their spears and tramp over a mountain or through a pass and try to knock the heads off their neighbors. Battles and armies were rather small and, regardless of how the campaign was going, both sides would march home almost like a whistle had been blown. The hoplites would hang up their kit and out the men would go to the fields for the harvest. No Greek City-State mounted anything like a continuous siege for a single year, much less a decade. There would be no way to supply them, their own city would starve and until, roughly, the American Civil War (fought on both sides by professional, paid, full-time soldiers) sieges were always more difficult for the besiegers than the besieged if, like Troy, the city possessed well built walls and had laid in food. Now, I have heard one theory that the Greeks then may have borrowed a page out of Sparta’s playbook in the Peloponnesian War: they’d besiege Troy as long as they could within one year, sail home to harvest, then sow, then load back up for another go. The Spartans in this way besieged Athens for years at a time but marched home over winter. Far more likely to have been ten limited sieges than one long one.
@MrSmithla10 ай бұрын
Further, the notion that the siege was periodical, starting and ending at almost prescribed times, would support more the idea that the Trojans rather naively thought the Greeks gone one day after 10 straight years of a siege. It seems to me the whole horse ruse would have stood a better chance to work if leaving it corresponded to the time of year the Trojans were accustomed to seeing the Greeks leave. The trick, then, wouldn’t so much be the horse as the apparent withdrawal of the Greek forces.
@kékédesplages-d6d10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the song.
@GregorioGrasselli19729 ай бұрын
"There could be someone inside the horse". It took 3 seconds to understand it!
@GuardianGrarl10 ай бұрын
As a Greek, am so happy those three lived to see this adaptation of Illiad and Achilles, one of the oldest fictional powerhouses !!
@gerardoespinoza43355 ай бұрын
The point of Thetis telling Achilles about him dying involves a prophecy. Thetis was a beautiful goddess that made Poseidon and Zeus fight each other for her, but if she ever had a child with anyone, that kid would be stronger than his father. So, she was forced to marry a mortal man. The other part of the prophecy says that he would have to make a choice, to either live a happy and long life but forgotten or going to Troy and have his name remembered for centuries but dying there. That is why it’s said that Thetis tried to make him invulnerable in the river Styx, the river that separates the land of the living from the dead.
@tommilota579210 ай бұрын
while are we at greeks.. show them Alexander (2004), im sure that will be interesting
@pscm944710 ай бұрын
Yep! I'd like to see their reaction when he reaches the end of his trip 😉
@jarlnils43510 ай бұрын
I still wonder why nobody does a reaction to Alexander. One of my favourite movies. Spread the love for the Syntagma and the Phalangites! Zeus be with us!
@martijnvanvelsen631310 ай бұрын
Achilles was nearly invulnerable because he was dipped in the River Styx, the river in the Underwold, by his mother as a child. But she was holding him by the tendon in one of his heels (the Achilles tendon) and that was only place that he was vulnerable. So when Paris shot him in his heel, the great warrior died.
@Tryler_10 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a different color font someday :)
@samslucock994010 ай бұрын
I know this was posted a week ago but I just think it's worth mentioning to them that despite this being a modern film, it was based on historical facts and that although it happened over a thousand years ago, it was one of the biggest wars in history, and that achilles is known as one of the greatest warriors that ever lived, I think that changes perspective of the movie
@cubic20112 ай бұрын
Troy is a masterpiece.
@danbowes10 ай бұрын
Time rules everything. Babu is 100% a great elder. Awesome episode!!!
@deepsky29974 ай бұрын
When the Trojans are fleeing, Paris asks a boy his name and he answers that it is Aeneas. Aeneas is a very important character in Greek and Roman mythology. He was the son of Anchises, a Trojan prince, and the goddess Aphrodite for the Greeks, Venus for the Romans. When Troy fell he managed to flee with his father and son and reached southern Italy. He was an ancestor of Romulus and Remus, the founding brothers of Rome, and his adventures were narrated by the Roman poet Virgil in The Aeneid. Tradition said that the family of Julius Caesar himself descended from Aeneas and, therefore, from the goddess Venus. The ending of the film greatly sweetens that of the legend. Most of the Trojan survivors were enslaved or killed, including the women of the royal family and Hector's son.
@ScarlettM10 ай бұрын
10:17 - Hector should have dropped Helen on a closest beach and left her there and sailed home, pretending that nothing happened.
@DarknessIsThePath10 ай бұрын
Honestly, in the movie anyway, Agamemnon wouldn't have cared, he would have convinced his brother that the Trojans betrayed him nonetheless because his entire goal was to take over all Greek states.
@MissMarchHare10 ай бұрын
The coins on the eyes are to pay Charon (the ferryman of the underworld) to carry the spirit of the dead to his place of eternal rest.
@drstitchemup464610 ай бұрын
I hope they watch the 300 movies i can already hear babu THIS IS BABU/SPARTA!!!
@bradbutler023710 ай бұрын
love you guys!
@SchwuffelLP10 ай бұрын
Here a Movie Suggestion: "Alexander Revisited Cut" It's great you guys watched Troy first, because in Alexander there are quite some hints to Achilles and Troy.
@jarlnils43510 ай бұрын
Zeus be with us!
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
When the camera panned out it showed the only arrow in Achilles was in his ankle/heel, this is where our legend for why that body part is called the Achilles Heel and also its meaning of a massive hidden weakness comes from
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
Because he was the greatest Greek warrior but he was ironically killed by the weakest Trojan
@marygifford937910 ай бұрын
In case you don't know, and no one else has said, Troy was located near where modern day Canakkale, Turkey is.
@bigw7257 ай бұрын
it’s ironic that he compared them to ants at the beginning, because the legend holds that that the myrmidons were created from ants
@susah13510 ай бұрын
Achilles had a lot in common with Gatot Kaca, both were very strong with a fatal weak point.
@bobbiepahl350020 күн бұрын
Love watching this movie with babu with my brother s and babu🙏❤️
@MissMarchHare10 ай бұрын
I'd like to see them react to 300 & Alexander. I love ancient greek history
@mdgarciasa10 ай бұрын
The history of this ancient war was passed orally from generation to generation, until it was recorded in an epic poem by Homer. This then became the foundational myth of European civilization for millenia to come.
@ryanwight911610 ай бұрын
Was there ever a sequel movie to this focusing on the Odyssey?
@rosshall647510 ай бұрын
unfortunately no. I would have loved watching Sean Bean galivant around the Aegean.
@praevasc429910 ай бұрын
That would be very difficult to do. The entire point of this movie was to render the story in a realistic, historical way, without any obvious supernatural elements. In a way of "what real events could the myths have been based upon?" But that would be very difficult with the Odyssey, as the supernatural elements and mythical creatures feature a key role there. Without them it would be just a boring ship ride back home.
@thegreen250410 ай бұрын
@@praevasc4299interestingly though everything else was terrible the game Assassins Creed Oddesey did a decent enough job of doing this. Polyphemus was a large guy missing an eye for example
@condatis617510 ай бұрын
Cold Mountain (2003) starring Jude Law was based on the Odyssey, as was O Brother Where art Thou (2000) directed by the Coen Brothers. Both good movies. Though i have to say its probably impossible to shoot Homer's Odyssey in satisfying way; the beauty of the writing could be done justice to by the likes of terence Malick, for example, but that sort of tone would jar with the magical/fantasy subject matter. Harry Potter meets Tree of Life anyone? No, it's like putting chocolate sauce on sea food imo.
@kiraflash459610 ай бұрын
There’s an old movie with Kirk Douglas as Odysseus.
@user-jf4if6vx9e10 ай бұрын
another great one !
@yanniszaxaro2 ай бұрын
Achilles Appears in The Iliad First Appearance (Book 1): Achilles first appears in the opening of The Iliad during a dispute with Agamemnon over the war prize Briseis. Agamemnon demands Briseis as compensation for losing his own prize, Chryseis, causing Achilles to withdraw from battle in a fit of rage, leading to his famous wrath that defines the epic. Achilles Withdraws from Battle (Books 1-9): Throughout much of the first half of The Iliad, Achilles is absent from combat as he sulks in his tent, nursing his anger over Agamemnon's insult. This withdrawal has a devastating effect on the Greek army, as Achilles is their best warrior. Patroclus' Death (Book 16): Achilles' close companion and best friend, Patroclus, begs Achilles to return to battle. Achilles allows Patroclus to wear his armor and lead the Myrmidons into battle in his place. However, Patroclus is killed by Hector, which becomes the turning point for Achilles' reentry into the war. Achilles' Grief and Return to Battle (Books 18-19): When Achilles learns of Patroclus' death, he is overcome with grief and anger. His sorrow is so intense that his mother, the goddess Thetis, comes to comfort him and provides him with new armor, crafted by the god Hephaestus. Achilles then reconciles with Agamemnon and vows to return to the battlefield to avenge Patroclus. Achilles vs. Hector (Book 22): In one of the most famous scenes of the epic, Achilles confronts Hector outside the walls of Troy. After a dramatic chase around the city, Achilles kills Hector and desecrates his body by dragging it behind his chariot. Achilles and Priam (Book 24) After Hector’s death, Achilles continues to dishonor Hector’s body by refusing to give it back to the Trojans for burial. In Book 24, the gods intervene, and Priam, the king of Troy and Hector’s father, comes to Achilles’ tent to beg for the return of his son’s body. This is a significant moment in the epic for both Achilles and Priam. Priam appeals to Achilles’ humanity by reminding him of his own father, Peleus, who will never see his son return from war. Overcome with empathy and grief, Achilles finally relents, showing a rare moment of compassion. He agrees to return Hector's body, and the two men share a meal in a deeply moving scene that highlights the shared sorrow and humanity between enemies. This moment shows Achilles’ ability to step beyond the cycle of violence and vengeance. Achilles in the Underworld (The Odyssey, Book 11) In The Odyssey, during Odysseus' journey to the Underworld, he meets the spirit of Achilles. In stark contrast to his glory in life, Achilles laments his fate, telling Odysseus that he would rather be a poor servant alive than a king among the dead. This conversation highlights the tragedy of Achilles' short life and brings out a crucial theme in Homeric literature: the fleeting nature of glory and the bitterness of death. Achilles says: "Do not try to console me for death, glorious Odysseus. I would rather follow the plow as thrall to another man, one with no land allotted to him and not much to live on, than be a king over all the perished dead." This moment is important because it reflects Achilles’ changing perspective on heroism and glory after death. In life, Achilles fought for eternal honor, but in death, he recognizes the value of life over fame. Achilles’ God-like Rage in the River (Book 21) In Book 21, Achilles fights with an almost divine fury, slaughtering Trojans as he seeks revenge for Patroclus' death. He chases the Trojans into the river Scamander, where he becomes an unstoppable force. His killing spree causes the river to become clogged with bodies, angering the river god Xanthos (Scamander), who rises against him. Achilles fights the river god in a remarkable sequence of events that shows his near-divine power. Xanthos threatens to drown Achilles, but the gods intervene. Hera sends Hephaestus, who uses fire to dry up the river, allowing Achilles to continue his rampage. This scene emphasizes Achilles' superhuman strength and his wrath that borders on god-like destruction. It also shows the consequences of unchecked rage, as even nature itself rebels against Achilles’ bloodlust. The Names of Those Killed by Achilles During The Iliad, Achilles kills many Trojan soldiers, both named and unnamed. Here is a list of some key figures Achilles personally slays: Hector - The greatest warrior of the Trojans and a key figure, slain in their climactic duel outside the walls of Troy. Lycaon - A son of Priam, killed by Achilles when he begged for his life. Asteropaios - A Trojan ally and river warrior who fought Achilles bravely but was ultimately killed. Polydorus - The youngest son of Priam, whom Achilles kills in battle. Tenes - The ruler of Tenedos, killed by Achilles at an earlier point in the Trojan War. Twelve Trojan captives - Achilles sacrifices twelve Trojan youths at Patroclus' funeral pyre in a brutal act of revenge. Achilles' rampage is only stopped by divine intervention and ultimately by his meeting with Priam, where his humanity is restored briefly before his eventual fate is sealed.
@Sean1224810 ай бұрын
Should of told them a little about the myth and history but not go into details to spoil it.
@praevasc429910 ай бұрын
Especially as there are many historical easter eggs they completely missed. Paris gives his sword to Aeneas, saying that as long as someone holds that sword his people will survive, and Romans considered Aeneas to be a distant ancestor of their first king, Romulus. Also, according to the myth, Achilles has been submerged in a magical liquid as a baby and that gave him magical protection from weapons, but as he was held by his ankles, his ankles were exempt from the magical protection, and this magical protection is broken in the myth by having been shot in his ankle. In the movie, he is of course killed by arrows through his chest, but he manages to pull them all out before dying, and when others discover his body, he only has one arrow sticking out of his ankle, which might have been the source of this legend.
@basseon10 ай бұрын
That's the major flaw of this channel: no context whatsoever is given.
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
@@basseon It is a double-edged sword, in this way we also get their *pure* reactions without any outside influences.
@basseon10 ай бұрын
@@dingus6317 They should know what is historical and mythical. That kind of thing which doesn’t take away whatever a pure reaction is. They’re sometimes struggling to understand things we take for granted.
@debbylou572910 ай бұрын
So happy they aren’t in a theater with me
@erikagholston661010 ай бұрын
To this day we still know the name of Achilles.
@Jagdish655710 ай бұрын
It seems that we are going to war movies and we will see 300 Spartans very soon.
@arijitmoitra101810 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Lawrence of Arabia and Ben-Hur and Japanese horror.
@katerinapatiniotis559810 ай бұрын
This movie is based on true historic events. The Trojan war started in 1227 BC between the Greeks and the Trojans. It lasted for ten years. It ended on the 6th of June 1218 BC. This war is celebrated in the Iliad, the epic book, written by the ancient Greek poet Homer.
@waffles100410 ай бұрын
its not confirmed to be true, but it is likely that it happened
@katerinapatiniotis559810 ай бұрын
@@waffles1004 How old are you? 7? I just gave you the dates. Troy's burned ruins exist. Just because you don't read history, you don't have to dismiss others..
@almor244510 ай бұрын
@@katerinapatiniotis5598 There are also stories older than these ruins from Syria that speak of a similar incident. It was the way of the times that stories were taken and modified by others to match similar events. There probably was a Troy destroyed by the Mycenae Greeks but I doubt it happened this way. Have you heard the rumour that the Trojans went on to become a founding part of the Romans?
@waldoman710 ай бұрын
No it's based on a myth about gods and magically invincible warriors, which probably was inspired by a real war. They just edited the magic out. The end product, might have 70% or 2% in common with the real war that maybe probably happened but maybe not.
@katerinapatiniotis559810 ай бұрын
@@almor2445 Do you know geography? Troy is not in Syria. Troy is located in the north western coast of Turkey..at Hisarlik.
@isisatlantis316810 ай бұрын
My favorite epic war movies: Gladiator, 300, Lord of the Rings, Troy
@lipgloss20210 ай бұрын
Well... as they like movies in "historical" times. Why not show them a movie that I think is quite authentic (as the milieu goes): Master and Commander
@almor244510 ай бұрын
I love this movie, not that it is much like Homer's epics but it tells the tale of two sides very well. We don't see the Greeks or Trojans and the good VS bad guys. It's people serving their cultures, their greed and their hearts. Even within one individual we see Paris be a selfish coward but a man very much in love who tries to redeem himself by saving his family, even though they were all put in danger by his own actions. The line dividing Good from Evil runs down the heart of every man.
@patmcgroin691610 ай бұрын
This movie is based on the foundational story of western civilization, The Iliad. Did you guys recognize the actor who played Paris, the boy who stole the queen? Orlando Bloom, who played the elf in Lord of the Rings, the main character from Kingdom of God, the blacksmith from Pirates of the Caribbean? I hated the character of Paris, felt terrible for his poor older brother, Hector, who pays the price for his foolishness, along with the entire city of Troy. And the character of Achilles suffers from hubris, pride. And rage. Something of an anti-hero, who finds some moral redemption in the end with his death.
@patmcgroin691610 ай бұрын
@steiner554 "Nothing...EVERYTHING." Hard not to like Saladin.
@camrondirossi324910 ай бұрын
Yeah paris was a spoilt brat
@adamnesico10 ай бұрын
@@patmcgroin6916Saladin would had never said that in reality.
@patmcgroin691610 ай бұрын
@@adamnesico Let not the truth get in the way of a good story, lol!
@adamnesico10 ай бұрын
@@patmcgroin6916 The story was already good, 0 need of include that stupid lie.
@Valkyraw10 ай бұрын
As Hector has said, no foreign ruler will set foot in Troy, the same way no foreigners will ever take this country from us. The greeks came and tried, but we kicked them back out. The Armenians came and tried, we kicked them back out. Today they cry because we defended ourselves and our country from invaders.
@cidella198510 ай бұрын
I'm suggesting "The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button" 😊 A gabonese woman, living in France. Much love ❤❤❤
@misterPAINMAKER10 ай бұрын
The movie does not show that later they will find Helen and Hector's wife and they will kill them too!
@northeastokwari188910 ай бұрын
Movie suggestion: Malcolm X, O Brother Where Art Thou, Napoleon Dynamite, and to get a true look at America, Smoke Signals.
@PenTheMighty10 ай бұрын
Troy is one of my favourite films and I'm happy you all had a chance to watch some of the Greek Epic Poems! I love this period of history, known as the Bronze Age. It contains so many integral stories of many cultures surrounding the Mediterranean; the story of Moses and the Exodus of the Hebrews searching for the promised land, the story of the fall of Troy (The Iliad), the battle of Khadesh where Egypt fought a war of conquest, the fall of Nineveh and the Assyrian Empire (a particular favorite of mine, very colorful), The rise and fall of the Numidian Pharoahs, the birth of Phoenicia and the horde known as "The Sea Peoples", the myth of Atlantis/Thera and the fall of the Minoans, etc. The Epic Cycles (Greek Founding myths and mythology) are a series of books similar to the Bhagavad Gita. A series of tales, chronologies, lineages, and epic poetry detailing the exploits of ancient Greek heroes. Over time, these merged with morality plays and got mixed with "classical" or Hellenic Greek identity and culture. Unfortunately, we only have the Illiad and the Odyssey in any full version. These stories were sung like songs as poetry and music were considered the same thing to the Greeks. There are many iterations and version of this story (the story of Illios or Troy). This film is based on a book I have re-read since I was a young man, always coming back to it with wonder and awe. I highly recommend watching either "The 10 Commandments" with Charlton Heston or "The Prince of Egypt" an animated film; both surround the events of the Hebrews attaining freedom from Egypt and making the long journey to their homeland. As Babu said about wine and festivals being "colorful", this period of history is one of the most colorful in history. It's shrouded in legend because there are many versions of these stories passed down, rewritten, re-imagined, and even just changed for entertainment value. It's a period we have very little written record of but lots of scientific evidence after years of study. We can only guess and wonder at what this world was like, and are in awe of the stories they told. Cheers to all of you, from a long time subscriber! EDIT: I forgot to mention at the end, with them "going to the hills" as Babu said. The Romans believed that they were descended from the refugees of Troy, who after having many adventures on the Mediterranean sea, ended up landing in Italy and their descendants founded Rome. Key is the old man being held up by the youth as Helen and Paris pass by at the end of the film. The youth is supposed to be Aeneas, the father of the Roman Empire.
@PedroSilvahf10 ай бұрын
More and more i think Babu is quite the ladies man and we did not got the full story
@ebbhead2010 ай бұрын
Do people from india not know Achillies ? If so Achillies heel means nothing to them I guess? Achillies is known on the entire planet and thw saying comes from the legend about how he died. Invincible apart from his heel. This film gives us a better reason for that legend. Hes shot several times but his men only finds one arrow. The one in his ankel. The legend goes that his mother dipped him in the river Styxx to make hom immortal. But by holding him by the ankel there was one spot left dry. She didnt think of turning him over to dip his feet in the river so left him vulnerable to attacks. So hes a goner after Paris shoots an arrow through his foot. Also the battles that we see is part of 10 year war to take Troy. It was a long campaign and the film doesn't really show that. 😏
@Kenneth_James10 ай бұрын
I thought everyone had heard of a Trojan horse
@THEKissMyA3310 ай бұрын
one of my favourite films
@TheNimdude10 ай бұрын
Perfect timing!
@yourguard410 ай бұрын
An ancient story.
@dcrees419010 ай бұрын
Sometimes I'm very confused with your choice of movies.
@yodasdad10 ай бұрын
Harry Potter + Star Wars 7-9 please! 🙏🏽
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
No please not Starwars 7-9, they ruined all that 1-6 built.
@yodasdad10 ай бұрын
@@dingus6317people on the internet have their ‘opinions’ but Babu and Raeen like everything for its own merits. They’re not infected by KZbin toxicity. Plus I was to see them react to Yoda’s appearance in 8. And Babu seeing Babu Frik in 9. 😆
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
@@yodasdad What are the merits in your eyes? They destroyed the entire Skywalker redemption story arc
@yodasdad10 ай бұрын
@@dingus6317 It's ok. I don't get enraged when people like/don't like things different than I do. Nor do I need to waste time trying to convince anyone to change their opinion. Like what you like. Don't waste time hating.
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
@@yodasdad I was simply asking you what you like about the sequels, and you went on a holier-than-thou diatribe, you evidently do have the time.. I am not seeking convincing, I am just genuinely curious about your perspective of what scenes/characters/themes from the sequels appealed to you? To me, they just seemed like a worse version of episodes 4-6..
@theonemrtom10110 ай бұрын
You should Watch The movie Alexander as well, I think they will like it
@hercules09able14 ай бұрын
Aquiles hero of the Greeks, Hector of the Rommans. Troy the Bible of the ancients. Paris the most beautiful city of Europe.
@johns162510 ай бұрын
The time has come to reflect on the super epic journey of great Achilles who must take the Troy away from Hector. Lets see if Brad Pitt has wat it takes to win the heart of golden right, lest something goes wrong! 🙏😇🥰
@glambertini470910 ай бұрын
I love too much Homer to like that movie. Til I'm a child, Ulysse is my favorite so to me, the only redemption quality of this movie is that the Great Ulysse is played by the great Sean Bean, that's about it. And well, it's always nice to see Peter O'Toole (suggestion : Lawrence of Arabia, one of the greatest movie ever made) and Brendan Gleeson (give this man his Oscar !).
@McBlammy10 ай бұрын
Where are these villager dudes from?
@dingus631710 ай бұрын
I think Pakistan or India
@Людмила-ю6й7ъ7 ай бұрын
Собака_это Гекуба_троянская царица,жена царя Приама,от горя превратившаяся в собаку!❤🌹👑
@michaelgohlke716310 ай бұрын
Is it possible, the gentleman once to show Star Trek or Stargate?
@katerinapatiniotis559810 ай бұрын
I'm proud to be Greek and come from Achilles' place. Thessaly.
@akashicrecords96726 ай бұрын
It's clear that the guy in the middle is the smartest one in the room. the others, not so much.
@dmschoice257110 ай бұрын
Very nice reaction idea. Troy isn't just a piece of Western history, it's legendry. Wonderful that the guys got to know it! Through a piece of pop culture, however, but that's fine with me :D What would be next - 300? An Odyssey movie would be great, as a follow up to this, but I cannot remember a good one of more recent production.
@gabrielesolletico654210 ай бұрын
Please! Next movie: Exodus!
@srbrant539110 ай бұрын
I wonder how they'd react to _Plan Nine From Outer Space._
@JTDimino10 ай бұрын
I'e guess that most people watching the movie have to look up some at least some of the words from V's soliloquy in the dictionary.
@Jagdish655710 ай бұрын
Please don't use this filter, colors are too sharp. Great video reaction 😃👍