There's a great quote from Brian May of the band Queen: "There are two types of riffs in metal. 1) Tony Iommi riffs, and 2) riffs people stole from Tony Iommi!"
@kevinmitchell40182 жыл бұрын
Brian may wasn't too shabby.i think him & iommi were great friends
@robertmccauley7542 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmitchell4018 true! Brian played solo on Sabbath’s When Death Calls.
@kevinbennett2239 Жыл бұрын
So true... as a guitar player since 84
@chriscoote26902 жыл бұрын
Only Sabbath can go from basically inventing thrash metal to the trippiest hippy dippy love tune…all in the same song…
@chutspe2 жыл бұрын
They were dark hippies from gloomy Birmingham instead of flowerpowery hippies from sunny San Francisco.
@mikekeeler63622 жыл бұрын
That's the light and shade that Tony Naomi talks about
@buccanero2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what sub-genre of metal you listen to, if you dig into Black Sabbath catalog, you'll find out that they did it first!
@colinregan72812 жыл бұрын
Bill is incredible on this track, I just love his playing.👏🤟👏👏🤟
@UjjayaEthnoambient2 жыл бұрын
Yeah , I knew this track since 1978 but I was blown away by the mix of drive and subtility of his playing only by hearing it on youtube with the reaction video few month ago.
@eccehomer81822 жыл бұрын
Yeah... not enough love for Bill in the comment section. He was totally monster on this track. As good as Tony's riffs are, it's Bill's drumming that makes this track.
@neillenet2912 жыл бұрын
Tony Iommi is the gold standard for hard rock/heavy metal guitarists.
@MrShadowofthewind2 жыл бұрын
1000%
@MikeInMD19612 жыл бұрын
I was 14 years old when I bought the album in 1975. I have listened to this song literally a thousand times. So cool for you both to have discovered it. Peace!
@sbuzzer2 жыл бұрын
And I was 16
@BCBeyer61 Жыл бұрын
As with a Love that never dies, Sabbath Classics never die.
@tmex95882 жыл бұрын
This comes from the album, Sabotage, which is IMO one of their best records. Check out Megalomania, The Thrill of it All or The Writ. Better yet, just react to the entire album lol. You won’t be disappointed 🤘🏼
@jeffmcvey16652 жыл бұрын
THRILL OF IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@brucedickinson122 жыл бұрын
the writ classic
@walkingwounded38242 жыл бұрын
Hole In The Sky! Heck, all of it!
@lantzkeefer62 жыл бұрын
It might be my favorite to be honest, Megalomania is another awesome song,every song is great and Ozzy's vocal performance is so good.
@judowrestlerka2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mickduvall16622 жыл бұрын
Sabotage is such a great album. This song, Hole in the Sky, Megalomania, The Writ,..... Wonderful.
@KevinQ19892 жыл бұрын
The Thrill of it All
@pastorofmuppets222 жыл бұрын
@@KevinQ1989 my personal favorite.And would be a good one for them to cover...as it has some theology
@jamesgreaves50582 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite songs. So musical! Goes from dark and heavy to light and happy at the end. Like going through hell and ending up in heaven. So great! Love Sabbath 4 ever.
@kenhewitt73572 жыл бұрын
The whole album is a work of genius!
@robertperrotto8702 жыл бұрын
Sori's face as the band switches from Speed Metal to Hippy love sounds was priceless
@TheSmittenman2 жыл бұрын
What is speed metal????????? lol
@robertperrotto8702 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmittenman en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_metal
@UjjayaEthnoambient2 жыл бұрын
B.I.L.L W.A.R.D !!!!
@glpf5 Жыл бұрын
OOOF those drum fills! Thanks for the video.
@pastorofmuppets222 жыл бұрын
As far as Tony Iommi's influence on the music map...he drew from Django Reinhard.When Tony lost his fingertips in the machine accident,his boss gave him a book of music written by Django who was also missing partial fingers.So he realized he could still play.Which led to detuning and his famous sound.Guitarists come from a lot of different masters.Percussion is different.Literally every percussionist comes from the school of Buddy Rich.A Sabbath song you haven't covered and happens to be my personal favorite is:The thrill of it all
@Nissardpertugiu2 жыл бұрын
actually as drummer , which were also melodist and arrangers back then comparing to what it is now , myself too, i think there s a whole library that got left in metal today. Ian Paice , Carmine Appice , Bill Ward , Cozy Powell etc... They defined things and they created things , they tried everything they could in 70's but if you go back, Mitch mitchell , Ginger , Keith , you go back to Baby Dodds , Chick webb , Papa Jo jones, Philty Jo Jones, Gene Krupa , Lionel Hampton, Buddy rich , Sonny Payne , Joe Morello , Max Roach , Art Blakey , Kenny Clare, Kenny Clark , Elvin Jones, Tony Williams , Louie bellson ( 1st Double bass !), and others double kick players early on such Dave black , Sam Woodyard , Rufus Speedy Jones , Ed shaughnessy ... And the funk dudes too , Purdie , Jabo , Clyde Stubberfield.. And the early fusion stuff , that was parralel to Sabbath and stuff ( and with Purple , Bonzo , etc... they liked that too ), influential to metal ,Mahavishnu orchestra , Cobham , alphonse Mouzon ...
@rupenkesenci8081 Жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa considered Iron Man a masterpiece. Tony Iommi is a genius. Hendrix may be the greatest guitarist. But nobody can touch Iommi's riff. Forget zeppelin or purple. Black Sabbath was a complete package
@andrewgarin24862 жыл бұрын
The first note starts in 'G'. I was 13 in 1983 and bought this cassette. When I first heard it I was just shocked at how awesome it sounded....don't forget about "Hole in the Sky" on the same album!....Omega all the way!!!
@liminal_entity13312 жыл бұрын
About the metal "family tree" thing: there is a documentary called Metal: A Headbangers Journey directed by Sam Dunn that heavily features such a graphic, made by Dunn himself. It charts the history of most of the major sub-genres of metal, from the beginnings with Black Sabbath all the way to the mid 2000's when the film was made with Lamb of God and company, with all of the many branches in between. If you've never seen the doc before, I highly recommend it.
@mikephillips88102 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed that's great, and the shows he's done since featuring a separate sub genre of metal each episode.
@crucify402 жыл бұрын
Yes I was thinking about that Doc when Sori was asking about a family tree. I also think the quote that Vin was referring to about someone saying they recycle Iommi riffs is in that Doc too. It's from a Rob Zombie quote in that film.
@petrilampela2 жыл бұрын
A Headbangers Journey is great but it almost feels like a trailer to "Metal Evolution" that's also by Dunn and as Mike said it discusses different sub-genres of metal in 13 episodes. I'd highly recommend to watch it.
@normantompkins12522 жыл бұрын
Its a good watch
@barriehull70762 жыл бұрын
Brian May of Queen considers him "the true father of heavy metal",[80] Eddie Van Halen stated that "without Tony, heavy metal wouldn't exist. He is the creator of heavy!"[80] and James Hetfield of Metallica, who was profoundly influenced by Iommi, defines him "The king of the heavy riff".[81] Rob Halford, vocalist for Judas Priest, when filling in for Ozzy Osbourne during an August 2004 concert in Philadelphia, introduced Iommi to the audience as "The man who invented the heavy metal riff".[82] Michael Amott of Carcass and Arch Enemy considers Iommi his "guitar hero"[83] and the world's greatest guitarist "because he invented the heavy tone and evil riff".[84] According to Lamb of God singer Randy Blythe, "Iommi is the reason heavy metal exists".[83] HP Newquist of the National Guitar Museum stated that "His guitar playing has defined the sound of heavy metal for more than four decades, and he has influenced countless thousands-if not millions-of players."[85] He has been credited as the forerunner of other styles: Martin Popoff defines him "the godfather of stoner rock";[86] Jeff Kitts and Brad Tolinski of Guitar World assert that "grunge, goth, thrash, industrial, death, doom... whatever. None of it would exist without Tony Iommi".[87] According to Hawaii Public Radio: "it is hard to imagine Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam or Alice in Chains without Black Sabbath, and without Tony Iommi. Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Metallica, Slayer, Pantera and essentially every metal band can be traced to the musical framework found in Iommi compositions".[88] Many notable musicians count Iommi as a major influence on their own playing; some of them include Jeff Hanneman (Slayer), Dimebag Darrell (Pantera),[89] Slash (Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver),[90] Scott Ian (Anthrax),[91] Zakk Wylde (Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society),[92] Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine),[93] Billy Corgan (The Smashing Pumpkins),[94] Kim Thayil (Soundgarden),[95] and Nick Oliveri (Kyuss, Queens of the Stone Age).[96] Jerry Cantrell of Alice in Chains was strongly influenced by Iommi's dark bendings, which he uses often.[97] Andy LaRocque of King Diamond said that the clean guitar part of "Sleepless Nights" from the Conspiracy album is inspired by Iommi's playing on Never Say Die!.[98]
@jaernihiltheus78172 жыл бұрын
IIRC scott ian also is on record saying his top 5 albums are the first 5 albums of black sabbath ("black sabbath" to "sabbath bloody sabbath")
@mojobag012 жыл бұрын
The reason no one else sounds like Iommi is that they don't have the jazz chops that come from studying Joe Pass, Django Reinhardt or Wes Montgomery.
@OblivionGate2 жыл бұрын
England rules heavy metal and rock music... Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, Queen, Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Saxon, Rolling Stones... The list goes on 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@eccehomer81822 жыл бұрын
4:16 Listen to those drums! Bill out-Bonhams Bonham!
@revylokesh17832 жыл бұрын
Now do the Sepultura cover of that song. It'll blow your mind!
@kleberfernando10992 жыл бұрын
Bônus track of the album roots.... very colossal cover
@justthefacts93742 жыл бұрын
SABOTAGE ‼️‼️HARD ROCKS HOLY GRAIL ‼️‼️
@85dirtyd2 жыл бұрын
This song literally is thrash metal except like 10 yrs ahead of time😂💪🏽 Sabbath are the kings of metal period
@ejohnson38376 ай бұрын
The transition in this song is the CALM after the storm.
@joeallegra5562 жыл бұрын
Vin, we had to discover music. Tape trading, record stores, concerts and word of mouth. You never heard that song on radio. Unless a college Station played albums after Midnight. Rare!
@sumonjamal16532 жыл бұрын
The talent of guitarist Tony Iommi pretty much broke all the obstacles and rules to create the whole genre of heavy metal music in the 70's (and early 80's... Every sub-genre took something from Black Sabbath... Classic Heavy metal ( Judas Priest, Saxon, Queensryche)... thrash & speed metal (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth) ... power metal (Helloween, Dragonforce, Manowar) ... black metal (Venom, Celtic Frost, Emperor)... death metal (Obituary, Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse)... Industrial rock/metal (Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Filter) ... hardcore/grindcore/metalcore (Hatebreed, Napalm Death, All Shall Perish) ... funk rock/nu metal (Faith No More, Primus, KoRn)
@LuisDHern2 жыл бұрын
Stoner Metal too!
@richardworton45972 жыл бұрын
Bill Ward is a drumming God
@ericwyatt36462 жыл бұрын
My aunt introduced me to this album in 1980 when I was 8. Been listening to it since.
@vinniegorman83212 жыл бұрын
An absolute masterpiece. Every piece of instrumentation in this song is truly awe-inspiring!
@jackjohnson75832 жыл бұрын
You nee to do a bit of finger/ sleeping village / warning from their 1st album
@jaimegomez84502 жыл бұрын
Iommi is Sabbath.... Sabbath is Iommi. Master of Riffs.
@Wretchildstonerdoom2 жыл бұрын
Sabbath is rooted is blues and jazz their use of lower tunings and tempo changes along with adding layers of moods and colors to the music is what makes them living legends . Tony put it best when he said “ the beautiful and quiet parts make the heavy parts more impactful . Tony Iommi is the reason I started playing guitar . Sabbath have so many credits to their pioneering music awesome to think about when you realize Tony grew up listening to the shadows .
@iancarlton5310 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic song. So original. Imagine what teenage buggers like me thought when this first came out. Loved it then and still love it 50ish years later. And Bill’s drums! And then the complete change in sound and tempo. Brilliant.
@ashley43722 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I tell yt *DON'T RECCOMEND THIS CHANNEL* ...It just keeps popping up 😂
@crucify402 жыл бұрын
You should do the next song after this Megalomania. It's even better.
@brucebolduc45682 жыл бұрын
Omg dude. That was such an incredible analogy ! Couldn't agree more!!!!
@nettman429 ай бұрын
This is the best song by Black Sabbath ever! The energy is driven by the "devils" tritone, great guitar and drum.
@dconley1964 Жыл бұрын
All 4 of the band members grew up on American Blues. It's in everything they play.
@Blaze_1961 Жыл бұрын
Awww! @ 6:50 you held your hand out for him to take your hand and all you got was a high five. LOL You handled it well.
@markrobirds79842 жыл бұрын
He's the Big Bang of the Metal Guitar Universe. One of Tony's most famous riffs even became a Hip Hop song.
@johncrawford43022 жыл бұрын
back in the day all they played was paranoid and iron man thats all , you had to find college stations to hear any other sabbath songs
@terrylandess60722 жыл бұрын
I was a junior in high school when this released. While I played bass in the school jazz band you can bet I was getting my Geezer groove on.
@dreamwarrior522 жыл бұрын
Love your reactions.I was 18 when I first heard the 1st black Sabbath album. 60 years ago. Changed my whole musical direction . From a baby metal fan. Keep up the good reactions. Love n peace
@brettweinberg28392 жыл бұрын
This song is the best reminder that Sabbatth blows the doors off Led Zepplin. And MJ is light years better than Lebron.
@ejohnson38372 жыл бұрын
Sabbath at their FUCKING BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
@realscience9482 жыл бұрын
Megalomania…..is the best song on the album! Talk about a song that started metal!
@matforsbon Жыл бұрын
Vin's reaction and commenting to this song is F,, the best Learn People!
@larrydavis98462 жыл бұрын
Wow ...wow!wow! Wow! NO JOKE ...This is one of the best reactions I've seen! This is how music brings different cultures and different people of different backgrounds together! Out of all the reactions that I watch probably thousands last year this is in my top three! Ever
@kiillabytez Жыл бұрын
Still the Kings of Metal! Song NEVER gets old. Sabotage is one bad-assed album!
@fredalbrecht9862 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was 10 year's old when this came out but, I set a standard for Generation's to come.
@AngelofSunday2 жыл бұрын
The very first time I heard this song I was entering the Ozzy with opening guest Metallica at the age of 12. This song and that show changed my whole life!!!!
@AndyMmusic2 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to this in my lonely teenage bedroom and feel wistful about the lyrics!
@timmorin23042 жыл бұрын
Discovered this one late. Great job as usual. Sori is a Goddess.
@tiagorabelo30662 жыл бұрын
tony iommi is my favorite guitar player
@jasonpool95302 жыл бұрын
It was a group tony bill ozzy geezer they did it together
@glennkirchens79702 жыл бұрын
Tony stated recently in an interview that he has "hundreds of unused riffs". Rob Zombie sez: Tony Iommi wrote every riff there was to write, and everything that came after was just a derivative of it in some way, shape or form.
@Frank752882 жыл бұрын
Never heard this before , loved it
@danebakiss2 жыл бұрын
People say that because his chopped fingers, the sound that he (Tommy Iommi) performed was the essence of heavy metal. Hits riffs are incomparable and from that heavy metal came. It is unanimous.
@milanpetkovic19902 жыл бұрын
The song makes an incredible transformation at about the 6:08 mark - the heavy bass line guitar leaves, the drums soften up and acoustic guitars come in. Ozzy sings the outro much more gently than the previous verses, which he had been belting out with his traditional fervor. *It’s almost as if the band had gotten tired of being Black Sabbath and decided to be Led Zeppelin for a few bars instead.* - Genius
@RCullis472 жыл бұрын
I was on board with Sabbath since the release of their debut album. A revelation. They blew my mind. Nothing more heavy at the time. They continued to blow my mind all the way into the Dio era. So many musical influences infused into their music. Iommi is the god of riffs. He and Sabbath are the roots of the metal family tree. Their music influences me to this day. You are right Vin. My first quality brand new guitar I bought from a lot of lawn mowing was a 1974 Gibson SG Standard. All because of Tony Iommi. I wanted to sound as crunchy/heavy/greazy as Iommi.
@garyroberts3505 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vin & Sori, You are correct to frame Toni Iommi as the Godfather of Heavy Metal, but in case you didn't know played everything you have heard after a bad accident ( in which he lost the tips of two of the fingers on his Right hand), and had to learn to play all over again. He thought he would never play again, then a friend turned him on to listen to Django Reinhardt (a jazz guitarist), and toni thought he's good, but so what. Then the friend told him that he had also lost part of his hand in a fire - and learned how to play again. This gave toni the inspiration to play again as well as his jazz influence. Thanks for Your reviews, Gary
@PeterMcCracken-n3g10 ай бұрын
Let me help you out Vin my man. People don't understand the origin of Metal and who was there doing it for us. Tony was the man who made me want to learn guitar, full stop.
@victorstefanovsky69022 жыл бұрын
One of the best Sabbath songs (out of so many) and Ozzy’s best vocals. He stopped singing this song long ago. It is the ultimate metal song in times when the term metal did not exist. Sabotage is my favorite Ozzy album.
@Jmb19852 жыл бұрын
React to "After Forever" by Black Sabbath
@mikenastasi8927 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Black Sabbath song.
@crucify402 жыл бұрын
Sori: Black Sabbath writes cute songs.
@FreeMTrider2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@johnabbott2572 жыл бұрын
That's other worldly.
@aaronmartinez5029 Жыл бұрын
Blows my mind that Black Sabbath recorded the heaviest music that’s 50 years old. 😮
@spottss Жыл бұрын
Only younger people think this as if no one had a kind before 2000! Most things of quality have already been in existence on one form or another way before you and others were around. The technology had improved but the blueprint was already in existence
@sumonjamal16532 жыл бұрын
I know the original Black Sabbath and Sabbath w/ Ronnie James Dio got most of the love... but Tony Iommi kept Black Sabbath going after 1983 w/ different members. Those later records were never appreciated because the original Black Sabbath was such a monolithic entity... any other form of the band was apparently unacceptable. I still say that some of Tony Iommi's best work came out in the 80's and early 90's, long after Ozzy was gone... They had the technology to capture his guitar sound w/ clarity, so we got great songs like 'The Shining' ... 'Headless cross' ... 'Anno Mundi' ... 'Jerusalem' ... 'When death calls' ... 'Zero the hero' ... 'I witness'... 'Computer god'... Granted, Iommi was no longer a 'ground breaking' guitarist in that era, but he was still a force of nature in heavy metal/hard rock 🤘🤘🔥🔥
@kevinsteadman72152 жыл бұрын
There is no sabbath after ozzy simple
@SCOOBYPALOOZA2 жыл бұрын
This Song Is Dope. The Sabotage Album Is My Favorite Black Sabbath Album And So Underrated.
@normantompkins12522 жыл бұрын
Black Sabbath - thrill of it all
@ZalMoxis2 жыл бұрын
Sabotage is their true peak album.... what a truly great guitar sound.... once again they swung their songs that is the difference.
@tonyperez39202 жыл бұрын
Bless you Vin.
@bennypagesaunders68952 жыл бұрын
Utterly inspirational record.
@jfender80232 жыл бұрын
I remember Iommi talking once how he was influenced by Carlos Santana which most of his nylon or dreadnaught breakdowns and many of his riffs have that tinge
@alanbrown74122 жыл бұрын
Hi Vin Hi Sori. Another great reaction and discussion guys... What a brilliant track from one of my favourite bands ...who were so misunderstood when I was in my teens. I had many discussions with my fellow Church members who were not happy with my musical taste...so I recited and discussed lyrics from songs such as After Forever , Lord of this World...and their opinion changed a bit 👍✌️🤘 I was 18years old when Sabotage came out...I had all the previous brilliant albums..but when I first heard the pounding bass...and guitar from the riffmeister..it blew me away 👍. Looking forward to your next reaction. Take care, stay safe. Peace and love from Liverpool UK 👍✌️🤘☮️✝️
@roybatty995511 ай бұрын
This is Oz Era Sabbath at the height of their super powers. Great choice.
@gazwheeldon5952 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourites 🌎💚🌍
@Goldie19772 жыл бұрын
I’d love for you to check out the Sepultura cover of this. Great version of a great song
@vitus332 жыл бұрын
Ummm, excuse me, Tony Iommi is missing TWO fingertips! He is the undisputed (IMO) king.
@andykomar13632 жыл бұрын
The whole album Vin, the thrill of it all, the writ. ...
@zdenkonouzovsky69472 жыл бұрын
Bill Ward 🤘
@tracygordon52712 жыл бұрын
God love ya sori, for wearing a bruins shirt. As far as reactions watch the big bad bruins 1 hour video.
@berduss7149 Жыл бұрын
well . yes Iomi ...but there was Jimmy Page too in that school !!! A little bit like the debate between John Bonahm and Neil peart on who's the best .
@FloatingAnarchy612 жыл бұрын
There were a series of books that came out years ago called Rock Family Trees. It was more about which members of bands went on to join subsequent bands. I don't think there's much argument about Sabbath being the architects of metal especially from a British point of view, Deep Purple could also lay claim but Sabbath got there first. There have been claims that American bands like Blue Cheer and MC5 paved the way, but then again the first classic riff based song was probably You Really Got Me by The Kinks. Tony was in despair after the accident, until someone gave him a Django Reinhardt album, explaining he'd lost two fingers in a fire. So even though Tony was the ultimate riff machine he also loved that light jazzy style you hear in the second part. See also Planet Caravan from Paranoid.
@buddinganarchist2 жыл бұрын
I will say it: the best metal song.
@victorstefanovsky69022 жыл бұрын
Check Megalomania , the next song.
@samuelordaz81352 жыл бұрын
Ésta ROLA lo más HEAVY
@ZombifiedPreacher12 жыл бұрын
Sabotage, Black Sabbaths masterpiece
@metalmark12142 жыл бұрын
Another great song. A symptom of the universe a love that never does, yeeaaahhh🤘 Tony Iommi created riffs that were the foundation of much of the metal that came after.
@vascomunista Жыл бұрын
Black Sabbath is like the Pelé of metal... They did It FIRST
@sidneialmeida121110 ай бұрын
Listen to the band Black Sabbath, CD Never Say Die
@isarforace69012 жыл бұрын
Is the only band thant You can to react and find something great in every songs! Listen to megalomania, under the sun, a national acrobat, hand of doom....etc
@metalmadsen2 жыл бұрын
First true pure metal.
@emmajohansson79642 жыл бұрын
Please react to Ghosts new song "call me little sunshine" 😁
@JuanRamirez-xh3kc2 жыл бұрын
Toni Iommi is THE MAN but if you want to hear a TRUE LEGENDARY WIZARD OF GUITAR who was (is) around at the same time check out the German maestro Uli Jon Roth with the Scorpions, I suggest The Sails of Charon, Vrgin Killer, Dark Lady , HellCat to name but a few,
@UjjayaEthnoambient2 жыл бұрын
IMO Ulrich Rothe is the forefather of neo classic metal, mixing his Hendrix influences with some neo classic licks . The very first to do that was Ritchie Blackmore (see his solo in Burn , reminicent from JS Bach licks) . Malmsteen only make the all thing more obvious.Ulrich Roth has more taste than YM who became repetitive (speed is not all the music) . This said if you listen closely Tommy Iommy also use some classical guitar licks he applied to the track "Black Sabbath" (speed up the concerto of Aranjuez by Narcisso Yepes) . Indeed even in Symptom of the Universe he used some descending two by two scale in the break which a common tradmark of JS Bach music (never used it in the blues-rock genre).
@tomfabozzi63092 жыл бұрын
Almost impossible not to headbang to this riff, isn't it?
@namegoeshereorhere50202 жыл бұрын
Kind of funny how a genre(s) was created because of an accident with a sheet *metal* press.