Vince Russo - "Only nerds watch wrestling"

[@cutiemarshall6502]

The problem is that you just can`t respect it anymore. These wrestlers are making double the salaries of a few years ago for working once a week and still they look like they have never seen the gym.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@cutiemarshall6502 which ones also that was the case the past century today they work more than those guys not mentioning the roids their entire careers what's not to respect

[@TheOldMPClub]

Why exactly do some of you care so much about being physique police? It be one thing you were trying to get laid with a wrestler but it seems like an odd thing to focus on. Or is this some weird nerd fixation that muscle mass makes you tough.

[@TioJones-lm1zi]

We need guys with characters, catchphrases and big personalities. Finn Balors size isn't the problem the problem is they don't have a character. We have to keep in mind that we are in a different time. Where a dance on Tik Tok will get more views than one match on raw or dynamite. Peoples attention is on other things now. Don't care if your small just have a character be badass.

[@crazyrr144]

Their look is their character too

[@Hunkzilla]

Most people dont seem to realise that Smackdown failing FOX has major implications for Pro Wrestling as a whole. FOX is free to air and the best they could do was like 2 Million viewers . That showed the state wrestling industry is in . Wrestling has gone back to the 1970s when it was a niche sport back then.

[@danielburger1775]

Far more people watched wrestling in the 70s than do today.

[@rebelmango2141]

How was it failing their contract expired and Fox couldn't afford the money to keep. It's mainstream what are you talking about

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@danielburger1775That's simply false and the opposite but okay

[@DiversityJackson]

To be fair, wrestling had its ups and downs with mainstream television viewership way before wwe went on fox. "No Holds Barred" didn't light up the box office and wrestling was at it's peak in 1989, everyone remembers "ready to rumble" and how it completely bombed as an epic failure in 2000. Even present day attempts to broadcast a wrestling themed show have struggled. Look at "wrestling with death": didn't last a season. While the Starz show "heels" didn't last 3 seasons. Last but not least, "young rock" also didn't last beyond 3 seasons. Wrestling is just hard to successfully market beyond the 90s boom.

[@bb-gc2tx]

@@rebelmango2141 i laugh when dave lagreca says we are in the middle of a wrestling boom . he lives in the wrestling bubble the general public has no clue who most of todays wrestlers are

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

Just finished the McMahon doc. The lack of any Russo mention during the Attitude episode really pissed me off.

[@DiversityJackson]

At this stage in his life, I'm sure russo wouldn't want his name mentioned on anything tied to McMahon.

[@sjdhgydhfyrn1023]

LOL @ the username "BurgerQueenDoudrop."

[@elijahingram8520]

Good glad they left him Out

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

@@elijahingram8520 I bet during your school days you were always the last one picked for sports.

[@elijahingram8520]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop Lmaoo aww you mad?

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

For me the fans are the most pressing issue in modern wrestling. Even if I liked the current product I wouldn't dream of going to a show because I don't want to be associated with those weirdos.

[@rebelmango2141]

It just sounds you have a caricature

[@bb-gc2tx]

@@rebelmango2141 i wouldnt take my kids anywhere near an aew show most of those fans look like they could be on to catch a predator 🤣

[@rebelmango2141]

@@bb-gc2tx I wouldn't argue with you there

[@PeteyPirahna77]

Blaming the fans is just a scapegoat for people who don't want to admit the show sucks.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@PeteyPirahna77 it doesn't bur true

[@gregsullivan5267]

Vince is right! All the cool kids left the party at around 2002 and they are not coming back! Sad.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@gregsullivan5267 they are seeing how they're selling out shows after the pandemic

[@korsakovpodcast]

well said, it's true.... it's damn true

[@rebelmango2141]

@@korsakovpodcast it's not it's simply not

[@rebelmango2141]

@@gregsullivan5267 He's not right and they are coming back

[@lamelmazerouno9332]

They are not creating new fan's like they did in the past. Now you have old fans coming back or die hard fans, children, that's it.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@lamelmazerouno9332 are the children not new fans also selling out arenas sounds like new fans

[@geneanthony3421]

Young people want their own thing. They don't want to watch what their parents watched most of the time. Wrestling is just done. Odds are it will never get younger fans.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@geneanthony3421 even tho WWE is doing pretty well young people over 18

[@TheOldMPClub]

I think they are, they are just only keeping the ones who act like the internet nerd as they get older as they get bored with it once they figure it out. Rebelmango has commented all over this video gullibly believing WWE's pr spins make them actually mainstream despite no real serious presence there. Geneantony on the other hand is spouting the same old rhetoric about how kids want their own. This has been a regular spreader since the earlier days of the internet and is one of the major reasons 2000s, 2010s and 2020s kids are far more ignorant of the past than previews generations.

[@Danirey02]

Stephanie McMahon has a lil lesbian crush on the active women wrestlers like Cora Jade and Roxanne and Stephanie always hated the Bella twins which is why everyone loves Stephanie so much

[@travisford6663]

100% right on The money, Mr. Vince Russo, wrestling fans are geeks and nerds! Didn’t used to be that way, but that’s all it is now! And they all live their mom basement and probably Will for the rest of their lives

[@rebelmango2141]

@@travisford6663 have you seen a wrestling fan or a crowd recently cause they aren't from what I'm seeing on WWE also this is a wrestling channel what does that make his audience so I would say this applies more for his audience Vince just being an old man like always

[@geneanthony3421]

I grew up in the 80s and wrestling fans were mocked back than as well. Russo takes a niche period in wrestling and acts like that's the norm. Wrestling was mocked when I was in grade school and that was during the 80s boom.

[@razorramon7573]

​@@rebelmango2141People like you shouldn't be allowed to talk.

[@Hunkzilla]

Its been like this ever since Survivor series 2011 when the smarky fans attempted to hijack the show by crying out for Zack Ryder throughout the night . Nobody took them seriously until Wrestlenania. 28 after Daniel Bryan got destroyed by Sheamus in 20 seconds and then they proceeded to hijack the show throughout the night chanting Daniel Bryan's name. That was when the smarkys outnumbered the casuals in the live audience . The same smarkys would disgrace themselves by chanting "Husky Harris " during Bray Wyatt's debut and they also chanted "Seksual Chocolate " at world heavyweight champ Mark Henry when word got out that Henry was a bigger ratings draw than Christian . Lets face it ,there is a huge discrepancy between how certain wrestlers are over with the live audience and the fact that the same wrestlers draw low nunbers for tv ratings ,PPV buys and House Shows despite being over with the live audience. I think Vince McMahon realised to his horror that the smarkys now outnumbered casuals in the live audience and he had been catering to them by pushing Daniel Bryan ,CM Punk etc even though those wrestlers werent PPV and tv ratings draws hence why business eventually went down Vince was forced to rely on Brock Lesnar,Goldberg ,Bobby Lashley ,Undertaker etc during the latter stages of the dreaded 2010s just to boost PPV and tv ratings . Some of those smarkys were so arrogant they demanded that Mr Mahon should feed Goldberg to Kevin Owens ,Bray Wyatt and Dolph Ziggler . That should tell you how arrogant those smarky fans became . THere is no doubt they drove off the last of the casual fans .

[@rebelmango2141]

It's not been like 2011 for a while now especially without Vince PG was overall bad. Have you seen the ratings CM Punk draws today it's mainstream. That's Vince just liking big guys and nostalgia Taker and Goldberg wasn't a disaster. It's not arrogance but knowing the old man won't last long instead invest in the young and build them up it's this that led to WCW going down relying on the old

[@GregOGrady84]

I stopped watching after the 2 royal rumbles in 14 and 15 wen they ruined both royal rumbles coz Daniel Bryan didnt win

[@rebelmango2141]

@@GregOGrady84 I mean Roman was universally disliked

[@GregOGrady84]

@@rebelmango2141 It was the same the year before on Batistas comeback these people need to learn that its not real

[@rebelmango2141]

@@GregOGrady84 it's not about thinking it's real when people criticize something in a show do they think it's real

[@alanchamberlain9902]

Wrestling isn’t believable anymore Bianca losing to Iyo, Bron Breaker losing to Sami Zayn and Sami fighting for the title. Where are all the bodies gone? You wanna watch wrestling and see very strong and fit men/women whatever your into. It’s too PG too no edge or storylines through out the show. The entrances and lack of pyro is awful. HHH just pushes the wrong people. He’s a mark and all the NXT people he pushes sucks. Beautiful women always draw money, they sacked Mandy Rose 🤦‍♂️ and got rid of Eva Marie.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@alanchamberlain9902 there's plenty of storylines. Eva couldn't wrestle to save her life or do promos what go back to women are eye candy and guys do roids this is McMahon logic. Which NXT people the ones overalso Michaels is responsible for that

[@elite_artist351]

Right, because we wanted to see individuals who are pumped up on steroids. Yeah buddy, I would say given the reaction the smaller guys are getting, you are in the minority!

[@rebelmango2141]

@@elite_artist351 notice how few pars away ever since roids stopped being encouraged no more Eddie situations I agree

[@glitchmind4889]

Majority of the people getting pushed are just not it and people with actual talent get held down. plenty of examples rn of that happening

[@rebelmango2141]

@@glitchmind4889 which ones let's see if those happier to be under Vince

[@genarogilormino2139]

Pro wrestling is simply affraid of tackling current issues in society that people might identify with 😂because they are hot controversial topics 😂😂..Dr. Chris and Vince are 💯 correct. Wrestling doesn't want to be edgy anymore 😂

[@rebelmango2141]

@@genarogilormino2139 knowing what Vince considers edgy that's good

[@AiresLA]

I can tell ya that in Europe that surely is the case, since they don't give us a legit way to keep up with things without resorting to pirate websites that publish the episodes. We only get PLEs on time through the Network.

[@rebelmango2141]

They post the episodes on their channel WWE does it

[@AiresLA]

​@@rebelmango2141Not in their entirety. Watching snippets isn't the same. You know it isn't.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@AiresLA They post the entire episodes of Raw and Smackdown after the snippets NXT is the only one they don't do it for

[@AiresLA]

​@@rebelmango2141 How do I travel to your universe in which that happens? Because WWE of my universe 6867X doesn't do that at all.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@AiresLA in this one cause they literally do on their KZbin

[@99Maddux]

This is good stuff, guys. Keep up the good work.

[@rebelmango2141]

What good work sounding like boomers

[@DiversityJackson]

​@@rebelmango2141Boomer or not, wrestling is definitely not on the same page with mainstream society. "Young Rock", "Wrestling with Death", "Heels" are all shows that tried to resonate with mainstream television viewers and failed epically.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@DiversityJackson Sure but I would argue just the premise wasn't good like most people don't care about Dwayne's childhood unless you're a big fan and the second just by the synopsis doesn't sound interesting Heels seems to have been a success however they went over budget and I admit it was made more for a specific audience like most people don't know what the term means plus wrestling movies or TV shows just don't do well generally even back then like the Hogan cartoon and other movies at the time some might say the wrestler but that tried to be Rocky leaning more on the drama outside the ring sorry if this came too long

[@1984Joby]

Yeah if wrestling is lame and nerdy then only nerdy people will watch it. Pretty simple...

[@Ratmann8436]

Nerds watch Star Wars.

[@outlaw_86]

And today’s wrestling 🫵😂

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@outlaw_86yeah that's why it's booming and mainstream

[@txmetalhead82xk]

And Star Trek 👍🏼

[@tyyrreekk9005]

​@@rebelmango2141Star Wars or wrestling?

[@rebelmango2141]

@@tyyrreekk9005 Mostly wrestling

[@Toni-x4y2n]

I likes wrestling a long time ago now is a joke

[@hollywoodseanhendrix]

So True

[@genarogilormino2139]

Wrestling nerds/ geeks/ marks are brainwashed masses😂

[@rebelmango2141]

@@genarogilormino2139 brainwashed for what being entertained?

[@TheOldMPClub]

Human society is built on brainwashed masses. We have governments, schools, and internet reviewers because of them.

[@Danirey02]

@@rebelmango2141don’t forget the tribalism it’s cringe

[@rebelmango2141]

@@Danirey02 yeah I forgot about that why can't people just enjoy things

[@Danirey02]

@@rebelmango2141 exactly

[@MELISSASOLLARS]

Casual fans probably just watch wrestlemania that's it

[@zn2qo]

I love these 3. They tell it like it really is. Most wrestling fans are pimple faced goofy virgins

[@OFFTHECUFFRADIO]

You clearly don't go outside. I went to Raw and it was different crowds of people. Alot of beautiful women go to these events

[@rebelmango2141]

@@zn2qo no they don't only show how out of touch they are yes when I watch WWE I see exactly that 🙄

[@rebelmango2141]

@@OFFTHECUFFRADIO also they're commenting on a wrestling show what does that make them

[@President_Shin]

Facts

[@travisford6663]

What is EC three close his eyes when he talks like basically he’s got him close, but his eyes are rolling underneath? It’s a little strange. I mean he’s a little strange. He’s cool but he’s a little strange. He’s the over Man cuz he’s over MAN!!!!

[@kpimkpim349]

Adhd focus strategy. He's cutting out distractions

[@TheeIdol]

Cocaine. And he tends to lie alot

[@26hypnotica]

Coming from a guy that never had much respect for the industry and just saw it as just another TV show then his comment is hardly surprising. Wrestling is not as great as it used to be but if you are a fan of something and you grew up with it you tend to uphold a love for it, I do not see how that makes fans nerds as such, a fanbase is what keeps any entertainment genre afloat. There are a lot of idiot wrestling fans though who you can tell have not witnessed the glory years and are happy to stan for mediocre these days.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@26hypnotica what some consider glory days can also just be nostalgia playing so I agree with the first part calling it mediocre however is subjective

[@26hypnotica]

@@rebelmango2141 Almost anything is subjective of course however I have lived through several eras of wrestling and the ones that stand out more are from the past and the boom periods of popularity tended to be in those time periods.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@26hypnotica I've also lived through a few and can say it's having a boom now I think that's just nostalgia

[@ts9332]

@@rebelmango2141 This is a boom period compared to what? The WWE's top show doesn't break 2 million views.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@ts9332 compared to the last decade under Vince. Okay there's always ups and downs

[@JAKJacobs]

Vince mcmahon did the same thing for too long

[@alexandru5369]

I hear no lies

[@rebelmango2141]

@@alexandru5369 then you can't hear

[@elijahingram8520]

Like you just bored making videos about anything

[@elijahingram8520]

VR nut up or yk the rest

[@JosephMaronen-s8l]

Damn ec3 is so damn annoying . Dude rolls out of bed and tries to use big words but sounds so damn annoying

[@nathanpreston7993]

Still packing arenas tho idk i went to summerslam had a goodtime and im a casual fan

[@ChrisSchoppe]

Typical Vince Russo always got to talk crap about wrestling and wrestling fans

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

SportsKeeda pays him to review the shows and give his opinion, is he supposed to lie and say he loves it ?

[@WhatIfJojoSiwaWasGay]

People are going to hate him for saying it, but that first 20 seconds is absolutely, 100% true

[@rebelmango2141]

@@WhatIfJojoSiwaWasGay it's not only out of touch

[@coded3604]

Don't insult your followers lol same marks watch Russo brand 247 bro but I agree to a degree. but wwe is mainstream has ever

[@jbbrolic]

Getting kicked off broadcast TV because of steadily tanking ratings makes it more mainstream?

[@jonesbones2857]

By this comment I know your mark and a nerd

[@Hunkzilla]

Vince is merely bemoaning the fact that wrestling as a whole no longer features in the mainstream consciousness .

[@rebelmango2141]

But it does rho​@@Hunkzilla

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@jbbrolic"kicked off" their contract expired and Fox couldn't afford the money necessary to keep it

[@TimothyCaster]

If you are on the Internet talking about pro wrestling, then you are a geek mark.😂 no casual fan watches wrestling podcasts. so you are ALL Nerds!!!

[@SetoKaibaJF]

Chris I’m just a kid from da hood across da krak house feather stone

[@robbymarton74]

🤣😂🤣

[@darianlynch2687]

Hello Mr White Supremacist. Let me guess, you’re favorite wrestler is Hulk Hogan. #SuspectedWhiteSupremacistAlert

[@darianlynch2687]

@@robbymarton74#SuspectedWhiteSupremacistAlert

[@elijahingram8520]

You talk about wrestling being for nerds but you a grown man crying about it

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

He's payed to review it.

[@elijahingram8520]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop and?

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

That's it. It's a job. Is he supposed to lie and say he loves it ? He's giving an opinion not crying.

[@elijahingram8520]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop That’s cool make his money I mean barely hitting viewers as is but he can do whatever he want tbh just like I could say what I want what is it to you though

[@elijahingram8520]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop you the type person that gets off on viagra on the poll matches and stuff it’s cool doe you like what you like

[@MrMegaManFan]

So now we have a KZbin wrestling channel that insults wrestling fans. That's absolutely genius. What's your next move? This is some four dimensional chess. I expect Russo to put on a MAGA hat and tell us lizard people are in charge in your next clip. He might even tell us they're turning the freaking frogs gay.

[@CarlosXPhone]

People need to chill out. Ok fine, hate Vince Russo, but at least ACKNOWLEDGE he was not wrong. They canceled the whole stable with Joe Gacy and his cult. Its basically what Russo is saying; BANK on what's going on. Rib it on, make rubs on culture that's permeating society now.

[@danielburger1775]

Look at the crowds from any wrestling show during Hulkamania Era or Monday Night Wars Era. It's all normal people. Now look at the crowd from any current WWE or AEW show. Would you want people to think that YOU are just like those people?

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@CarlosXPhoneHe's wrong it's not mainstream

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@HAA2kjust sounds like the complaining of an old man "great spurt"i it's entertainment. Yeah the guy making bank is the problem not Khan pandering to a minority of people with declining viewership and Vince who gave us the PG era that almost was the end

[@rebelmango2141]

​@@danielburger1775Comparing WWE and AEW crowds is quite the reach WWE fans do look normal

[@stevemelnyk7480]

Grandpa Russo looks like a huge, old nerd to me. Certain wrestling promotions are for nerds but not AEW these days. With characters like Cody Rhodes, WWE has become a bit nerdy but otherwise I think that wrestling is heating up again.

[@TheOldMPClub]

Define "nerd". In the sense a lot of us are talking about the whiny know it all who focuses way too much on technical aspects and has an air of superiority because they see themselves as smarter than everybody else and thus can bully others into accepting they are correct. Which to be fair describes a lot of internet dwellers, not just wrestling ones. Now instead maybe you mean nerd in the "likes comics and video games" stereotype. Cody is playing the most generic boyscout video game like hero you can possibly ask for. Saying him a top champ is drawing nerds in that sense is one thing.However i'd argue some of the companies that have done storylines more like a comic book or horror movie have taken more risks than WWE has in years.

[@OFFTHECUFFRADIO]

So who exactly is the "cool" crowd?

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

People who go to sporting events. Not the people who go to comic con.

[@OFFTHECUFFRADIO]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop Those people are also at WWE events so what you are saying?

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

@@OFFTHECUFFRADIO Nah, people who go to NFL and NHL games laugh at wrestling dorks.

[@OFFTHECUFFRADIO]

@@BurgerQueenDoudrop there's nerds at football and hockey games too... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BurgerQueenDoudrop]

@@OFFTHECUFFRADIO Maybe a few but not nearly to the degree of wrestling shows, have you actually seen an AEW crowd ? You can literally smell the bo through the screen.

[@labbaby189]

I prefer it that way. The "we want puppies" audience damn near killed the product as a sport. Subcultures do the best when they stay out the mainstream. All the major companies make enough money to feed themselves and the talent has a lot more freedom, that's all I care about aside from being entertained.

[@TheOldMPClub]

I never understood where this sentiment comes from. Why do you want the fake entertainments show to be like a sport? Why not support the real sport? Do you protest the Harlem Globetrotters for not playing real basketball?

[@jkjk42898]

"Sport" lol

[@rebelmango2141]

These guys are so out of touch and online describing a minority of fans to describe all that's more true about AEW who has empty arenas but there's more casual fans in WWE than hardcore that's why it's mainstream

[@tyyrreekk9005]

I don't think the casuals are watching right now but they were during WrestleMania season that's why the numbers were bigger they left after Rock did but WWE just has a bigger hardcore fan base like a Taylor Swift or whatever even if everybody doesn't listen her music or like her music or whatever she has a big enough fan base to where it dosen't matter she'll still sell out stadiums and dominate the charts and that's what the WWE is today.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@tyyrreekk9005 even when Logan Paul comes

[@TheOldMPClub]

That's VINTAGE internet nerd logic. Pro Wrestlng is still not mainstream. I've also not seen internet nerds believe full sale in pr fluff pieces as much since early 2000s Cartoon Network.

[@rebelmango2141]

@@TheOldMPClub it is mainstream especially WWE

[@tyyrreekk9005]

@@TheOldMPClub That's why I said it didn't matter because their hardcore fanbase is big enough in the U.S and globally to where they can still sell out stadiums and break records.