Violin practice tips for adult beginners

[@williamzheng5918]

Don't always start at the beginning! Even for this nice video! 0:08 1. Take notes: create entry points for revisiting 0:41 2. Don't always start at the beginning. (but how not to? see next two points) 1:03 3. Dissect the music piece into parts and sections (mapping), make it easier to memorize and enable different practice starting point. 2:07 4. Identify problem spots. Observe the mistakes, mark them to create a list of practice spots. 3:46 5. Find the cause of the problems: a left-hand or right-hand problem? 4:29 6. Fix the problems: isolation. To test your solution, use the 5-times rule.

[@danielibnz]

Funny. I spent most of my life using methodologies for quality, regarding incidents. Problem determination, Isolation and Fix. Root Cause Analysis. 5-Why's, 6Sigma, Zero Defects, ITIL, etc... First time I see something similar applied to a musical instrument learning. Glad to see it though, very glad. Thanks for sharing

[@EvieReddingWrites]

Thanks so much for this. I'm an adult beginner, and your videos have been a lifesaver

[@RedDesertViolin]

You're welcome! Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad the videos help.

[@danielgliege]

You are definitely brutal ! I'll repeat it 5 times over. I'll say it slowly 5 times then repeat it faster 5 times ..YOU ARE BRUTAL! ..Darned if each of every your suggested singular techniques are improving my overall musicianship AND violin fiddle style playing. THANKYOU VERY MUCH. REGARDS, Daniel. Peace, Love, Joy, & Ease be with you & your 2 legged & 4 leggedfamily. ❤

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thank you, Daniel! I'll take "brutal" as a compliment! Thanks for the well wishes. I appreciate it. Keep up the good work...sounds like you are on a good streak!

[@robinduong949]

Thank you for making this video! I'm an adult violin beginner and I'm glad that you address issues that are specific to folks like me.

[@RedDesertViolin]

You are welcome! There are TONS of adult beginners doing amazing things! There is a great facebook group of adult violin beginners......if you do facebook you might try to find that.

[@foxxiewyldfyre]

Thank you so much for your Videos! I refer to them often. My Daughter is seven and this year had the opportunity to start Suzuki Violin. the teacher told us it helps the kids in the parents are in class so I decided to learn to play also. your help is invaluable. thank you SO much!!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Your teacher was correct. So proud of you for taking the challenge! Keep it up!

[@BaderAlbadrany502]

foxxie wyldfyre she is amazing!

[@markallen9041]

Being an adult beginner and a "practice" cheater, I love the carburetor analogy! Thanks for all your time and effort with your videos I really have gleaned lots of little gems from them. Very thoughtful and helpful

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks for the nod, Mark Allen. I appreciate the feedback

[@RedDesertFiddle]

Mark, thanks for the feedback! It makes me realize it's helping! Hooray!

[@raymond4u100]

I like the starting in the middle part

[@RedDesertViolin]

YES, Raymond! Start learning that skill now! Too many of my students cannot start in the middle to save their life. Learning to do that saves SO much time....and it makes us engage our brain in a different way other than "muscle memory". Keep up your GREAT work.

[@aspenx1304]

Great points!!! Nailed it all !!!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Good! Thanks for the feedback!

[@lisztomaniacenid]

I'm an adult beginner too and was just learning/practicing for 4 months. All of your videos are great! Thank you so much! 😊

[@RedDesertViolin]

Cool! Yay for adult beginners! If you need organized, systematic instruction, come check out my lessons at www.reddesertviolin.com! Hope to see you there!

[@a.wal19]

thank you for this video and others.....are very useful... i am an adult beginner 58 aged....

[@pattyyancey5617]

angelo walter br. How is it going?

[@ogstopper]

As a typical bloke, I rarely follow instructions, just get going and make it work. That isn't a helpful trait when learning to play violin. THIS really *is* great advice. Thank you so much.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hey, your approach CAN be effective if you temper it with a little structure! Embrace your inner juggernaut!

[@ogstopper]

@@RedDesertViolin 😂🤣😂 How I wish you were in the UK.

[@banjiddle]

Had to watch this again. I’m trying to undue mistakes that my previous teacher didn’t notice to teach the proper way. We just moved on. Thank you Lora!

[@RedDesertViolin]

ARgh. WE ALL have unfortunate gaps and mistakes along the way. But, we move onwards and upwards!

[@declairelegenou]

Your tips even help me, a Suzuki "parent" for helping my son playing. Thanks!!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks, Le Genou! And bless you for being a coach to your child! It's a wonderful relationship building activity!

[@rubaabdul7931]

I like the way you speak.. .persuasive.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks! (maybe I should become a car salesperson.....)

[@rubaabdul7931]

Red Desert Violin whatever you want as long as you don't leave us ❤🎻

[@1memo1717]

Great. THANK you it helped lots 🌹

[@RedDesertViolin]

M rashed, you have been commenting on my channel for awhile now. That means you are COMMITTED! Bravo to you! keep it up...you can do it!

[@banjiddle]

Good advice! Thanks

[@desireesingleton2615]

Great Advice!

[@raymond4u100]

Cool stuff. Thank you

[@RedDesertViolin]

YOU are a great adult student, Raymond!

[@chriss6356]

Thank you for sharing all of this with us!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks for posting!

[@banjiddle]

Thank you! I’m taking notes of your valueable information.

[@banjiddle]

Excellent advice!

[@maggiez8798]

This video really helped me practice effectively. Thank you!

[@RedDesertViolin]

I'm so glad it helped! If you learn any new tips, let me know. I love learning what others discover!

[@Cidnee454]

Great information, thank you! ... I really like the ‘five times rule’ game and am certain it will really help me to improve! 😃

[@RedDesertViolin]

Awesome. Thanks for that feedback. I STILL use the 5x's game on myself!

[@lahkaahau]

yes, thank you, indeed. I can apply this tips for my piano practice as well ;)

[@RedDesertViolin]

Yes you can! Thanks for watching. Keep up the good work!

[@1memo1717]

You are great 😍

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks. I hope you are off to a good start learning violin!

[@jvdiana]

Thanks, great! 👾🎵🎼

[@kristintripp967]

“Not just getting lucky once and moving on.” Ouch, that burns a little. 😅

[@RedDesertViolin]

Sorry....my private students learn that I treat them like professionals....and they learn to roll with comments like that. Take it in stride!

[@kristintripp967]

@@RedDesertViolin , haha, for sure! Great tips, and clearly they are needed! lol

[@danielgliege]

So True !!

[@loveearth262]

Am adult beginner when I start to play violin mt body aching all over especially my left hand neck and shoulder also my right hand thumb. After 1.5 years playing I can use vibrato at the first time I try it every day find the problem and solution for 1 month very exhausted, stress full and almost give up. Right now I come back to fundamental left hand build by finger lifting excercise and realize how stif my sweet and how weak my pink finger😂. I can control my pinky finger but for my sweet I almost die😂. Maybe because am 30's.I wanna give up actually its realy need much double effort when are adult beginner

[@RedDesertViolin]

It is hard to be an adult beginner, BUT MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING IT! You can do it!!! And adults have some advantages: desire, commitment, attention to detail, maturity, conceptualization, discipline. Anyway.....I would suggest a few things to you. 1) try to find a comfortable chinrest and shoulder rest. (that will relieve the neck pain....and do not raise your shoulder! let the shoulder rest do the work for you) 2) Watch my video on "break the thumb squeezing habit in 30 days (I have a feeling that is your primary problem) ......after that, you will be much happier! Good luck!!!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Also, if you want really good lessons for a beginner, check out reddesertviolin.com and check out the Suzuki Violin Book 1 course.

[@kronoscamron7412]

However I come from a guitar background played it for years.... the idea of no frets and difference of neck length gives me headaches.

[@kronoscamron7412]

Also I tend to synchronize the bow with left hand as if I am using a pick... It takes mental effort to seperate the left and the bow hand.

[@RedDesertViolin]

That's funny....when I try to play mandolin or guitar, I try to use the pick like a bow.....I guess that's where the instruments are REALLY different.....because down bow/up bow is not equal to down pick/up pick.

[@joeabstractjoe]

I guess there is nothing free. Always about the money! I went to your link and first thing I saw was an advertisement for lessons.

[@bevnicholson9916]

Lora puts the effort in - she ie entitled to make a living. KZbin also has lots of videos from Lora for free

[@evantheduck6663]

May i ask when playing arpeggios, when my 3rd finger is down, do i also put my 1st and 2nd finger down as well? Do i do this for regular songs as well?

[@loralynstaples5483]

Hi Evan. Gosh, that's debateable. Many teachers instruct their students to use "block fingers", which would require you to put 1 and 2 down when you play 3. This can be a powerful technique IF DONE RIGHT. Full disclosure: I was NEVER taught to block my fingers......and so I use what is called "independent fingers", where i basically put only 1 finger down at a time as a general rule, but there are times when it makes sense to block my fingers (for a finger-twister, or because a certain finger provides an anchor, or a certain finger is recurring between other fingers), and then I break from independent fingers and use block fingers. I have seen multiple problems from students who learned block fingers, they start to get really tangled up in chromatic passages, or fast passages, or, when they need to change "tetrachords", they have problems because they only learned block fingers in 1 tetrachord. (that's just a 4 finger pattern). Another argument against block fingers is: vibrato. A better vibrato results from having 1 finger down at a time. So, block fingers can work, and LOTS of teachers teach it. My advice is to find a teacher who TEACHES block fingers, and compare their arguments with mine.

[@evantheduck6663]

Thank you so much!!! I didn't expect such a long reply :')

[@123jozef]

You would NOT believe the notes I take on your videos. Well, if you knew me you would. I'm sure you've seen my "time only" comments on your videos. ( 1:03) You forgot one rule Lora. #7 STALK MY PAGE AND WATCH MY VIDEOS OVER AND OVER (ad infinitum!!!!)

[@RedDesertViolin]

The best rule of all! (#7) I'm very glad to know you are making use of my videos!

[@tomcattomcat1615]

Write it down already.....!

[@superwatercow201]

You didn't play violin