Virgil Roberts on Helping Suge Knight Get a Cut of Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby"

[@catfishvega3728]

Mr. Virgil Roberts has been one of the most informative interviews Vlad has done. Well spoken and a legitimate mover and shaker in the music business. More like him please.

[@micah9676]

People seem to forget that Vlad is interviewing a man with a JD from Harvard Law. Virgil better know how to conduct himself.

[@ProjectDystopia]

Mr. Roberts is so full of wisdom & life experience it's almost overwhelming, thanks Vlad for his oral history.

[@Likerholicz]

Pause

[@Bklyn988]

when reading the first line of your post i thought it said Mr. Roberts is so full of shit. 😂

[@newme1887]

VIRGIL STAYED IN LAWYER MODE ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT SUGE KNIGHT LOL

[@wmurray003]

He doesn't %^&@ around.... no loose ends bih!

[@jermalecassell6239]

more interviews with stuff that matters to hip hop like these homie the business side I digg this 100% game

[@danielrobinson9270]

Jermale Cassell Exactly! my feelings as well

[@Gunnar.J]

Vlad, WHY have you never interviewed the Ice Man himself? Get Vanilla Ice on!

[@Tearde61]

He heard you

[@guccigucci5002]

glad to see something new instead of 10000x vids of all these diff people talking about the repetitive shit about tupacs muder

[@caliking2x]

Adam K The pac shit is interesting, plus the biopic just came out so it makes sense. Majority of the interviews were nwa themed when their movie came out.

[@williefaulker]

Adam K right it got old after the first week of interviews

[@REDD_BLITZ]

Dick Griffey wasn't too pleased when Suge decided in going with Jimmy Iovine to further establish DEATH ROW RECORDS. Imagine DEATH ROW stayed under SOLAR? It would've given the label a whole 'nother legacy.

[@CBoogieLA]

Yep sold out to the man.

[@darrylnelson05]

Suge getting 25 percent? Chocolate got robbed again.

[@darnelldaughtrey3646]

Chocolate caught the bad end,he got greased.

[@ethanrobertson3008]

So Chocolate 100k got broken down immediately by Suge.

[@skepchica]

Most managers get 30%. The man got nothing, I'm sure he was happy to kick Suge over a portion because he was getting nothing. Attorneys charge that much too.

[@Gcssdvnkloiutesc]

That’s a typical management fee. Chocolate didn’t have the resources to get his publishing from ice.

[@mobeus84]

Chocalate aint do shit to make a dime cuz. They used chocolate for the rip

[@NOVMBER]

Man this is a dope interview Vlad. I love listening to an interview and being able to learn something from it - especially in regards to the music industry. I'm a music producer and I read a book in the past titled "Everything You Need To Know About The Music Business", so all of this makes sense to me. The only problem with the music industry is that it's one of the most rapidly changing industries. You can read the latest a edition of a book and it can be heavily outdated within a few weeks. Thanks for posting.

[@IcebergSlim03]

I remember him. He's in the welcome to death row documentary.

[@hellolkitty3933]

💜 Hearing the stories like watching a movie I can picture everything

[@PharaohLawLess1]

HelloLKitty Fa real

[@CJFilms1001]

This was a great interview... Please get Mr Roberts back on.

[@wmurray003]

Virgil is shattering all of the legends surrounding the Deathrow Era....

[@whatwhat3432523]

Suge Knights legacy as brilliant man that shook the music industry is destroyed. He only bullied his way in, guys like this did all the real work and thinking.

[@TheeDuhscientist]

wtf? This guy looks like the gangster older brother of the singer Babyface!

[@ThePrintButlercom]

LMAO!!!!!!!.....

[@divine1son]

I never comment. I was thinking the same thing LMAO!!

[@kingsavage5832]

Matt Jones Lmfaaaaaaaooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@drewali7]

Matt Jones he's never keeping secrets!!

[@mathiasacholi4148]

I just like to hear and learn from a person full of knowledge and wisdom like mr. Virgil Robert Vlad your the best hands down

[@stephanieyoung7678]

This Guy! He was never there .... but just heard!

[@1tmproductions]

I get what he is saying. He probably was sitting there when the story came out laughing shaking his head like "That Ole Sugar Bear". Suge probably heard him saying their plan to present the evidence to EMI and if they didn't they would sue. He probably told Suge that there would be no way of them winning the case. Suge seems like the kind of guy, knowing that information, that would then round up some guys on some mob stuff to go see Ice, knowing that the guys around him as well as Vanilla Ice and his guys wouldn't know any better. So after making him sign the letter, and this man working behind the scenes to bring the money in, it would make it seem like Suge's was the mobster that shook him down. One thing Suge did though is understand how to align himself with smart, professional people.

[@tawandatawanda8388]

I'm waiting for the Monica lewinsky and Donald Trump interviews Vladimir.

[@mexia23]

if you watched Welcome to Death Row doc you know about this.

[@bwaters735]

mexia23 great doc

[@thecoach11]

W for Virgil and Chocolate

[@holierthan]

Couldn't find any evidence of Vanilla Ice saying Suge had him hung outside the balcony...

[@GodGirlP]

Type In " Suge Knight Made Vanilla Ice Very Scared."

[@maaczka]

because he never said that.

[@johnm994]

Why is everyone so quick to just believe Chocolate? If he was such a great song writer, how come he never wrote another good song?

[@deredevil3415]

Stupid ass nigga did you not just hear the man say they sued the record label with proof he wrote the song? Along with other songs on the album. And before vanilla ice was signed they gave Johnson credit for the music he did. The big record label thought they could get away with not paying him and they had to pay him back. If you think the court system and judges were just “quick to believe” him and not have him provide proof then you’re a fuckin idiot. But if I explained it well enough to you and now you understand and change your stance then I apologize

[@crazyworld2570]

One hit wonder

[@johnsmith_treeler9031]

​@deredevil3415 you never answered the question.

[@AI-Consultant]

he didn't need to, you get all that money and you start doing drugs, no?

[@CBoogieLA]

Chocolate wrote for a gang of people. You don't know Westcoast hip hop b

[@quique7764]

So essentially Suge was the goodguy albeit he was still motivated by personal gain.

[@yeahisaidit5633]

Yep chocolate from Dallas Texas to be exact!

[@legendsofhollywu6517]

Organized General Mista Choc's a good dude

[@kent1391]

I'm surprised Vlad didn't somehow try to steer the conversation towards Tupac..... did you ever meet Tupac? have you ever heard anything about him?..... GTFOH!!!!

[@micah9676]

Virgil has a JD from Harvard. Not sure if any of those BS tactics would work.

[@mikefongquee9645]

Man! They sure know how to rob these artists!!!

[@jnprather]

Virgil mentions an early copy that had Mario's name on it. Has anyone ever independently verified this, or track this release out? That's huge, if true, but I can't find any info on it other than Virgil mentioning it second hand.

[@mcnasty4207]

So Vanilla stole Chocolate's song?

[@ruthweeks4796]

And chocolate and vanilla ice stole David Bowie and queens song.

[@legendsofhollywu6517]

Vanilla always stealing from chocolate. Atleast the last 400 years.

[@DoronBond]

@@legendsofhollywu6517 bruh maaannn🤣🤣🤣🤣 2022 and I’m just now knowing about this story

[@ThePrintButlercom]

Tommy Quon......not Chung

[@BleuEye]

I tend to believe Vanilla Ice...😮

[@F30586]

I tell these fucking kids...Stay in school, get a good education, college degree. End up being in a position like this man, million dollar deals with just one phone call. Having connections all over the country, able to make things happen stat.

[@ultimatetruthteller4169]

The newest Vlad interview with Vanilla Ice sent me here. 11/23

[@ReallyStrongGuy]

Smart man. Sounds like the initial deal was to secure the relationship so they could get the money owed from Van Ice, whether he made another record, or not.

[@morbidchid]

Chocolate made a record for Death Row. But he needed three ghost writers to complete it because the dude was a liar and a fraud. They released the album but NOT on the Death Row label.

[@ReallyStrongGuy]

morbidchid Hmmm. Was that money really owed to him?

[@morbidchid]

No. As Tommy Quon, Ice's manager put it, "everything had already been taken care of. This was not a legal issue. This was a street thing."

[@ReallyStrongGuy]

OK. Thank you. Don't remember hearing that. Sounds like the "talk" with Van Ice was the catalyst for the "business" part of the deal getting done with no resistance... Cold shit right there.

[@easyDoes1T85]

is this the dude who held Vanilla's other leg when they had him upside down over a balcony?

[@GodGirlP]

😭🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BrxRck]

This dudes a black mobster lol

[@2.T00T]

BrxRck a mobster that doesn't have to pull a gun nor knife.

[@darrylnelson05]

He's a Black Businessman

[@CBoogieLA]

Legal Eagle

[@amandad6104]

His story probably isn't accurate about Ice lol

[@andrewallace2137]

Dont get mad about your favorite rappers fraudulent past.

[@damitbobby6677]

When this guy lies he looks to his left constantly.

[@b.a3595]

Saw that too.

[@dannydaniel1234]

A smorgasbord of crooks...

[@Raider2Pac]

So like always vanilla stole from chocolate

[@PharaohLawLess1]

Raider2Pac Brilliant! Lol. Good 1 my brotha!

[@Anonymous8317]

Suge by other people as witnesses have said he tried to intimidate people, etc. It might be fiction but it doesn’t “sound” like it’s probably fiction. Who knows

[@ethanrobertson3008]

If it wasn't fiction why did Virgil say that he and Dick still had to sue EMI to get Chocolate publishing? This is why Virgil said he doesn't believe the story of Suge hanging Vanilla Ice over the balcony and making him sign over publishing. And years ago I remember watching a interview Vanilla Ice did admitting that it never occurred.

[@crimdolla3248]

Get Kev Mac next

[@jtcindahaus]

Chocolate wrote for Vanilla

[@C-Lyfe85]

in the words of Chuck D regarding vanilla ice. "if hip-hop has to have an Elvis, I want to own it". Culture vultures get taxed, no sympathy.

[@jordonvazquez7620]

He looks like Jermaine Jackson.

[@Shinobi33]

So he basically helped steal Vanilla Ice's money for songs Mario Chocolate Johnson never helped write. Great job Virgil 👏 . 🤡

[@CBoogieLA]

Chocolate wrote it. Pay attention

[@Shinobi33]

@@CBoogieLA he did not. Ice wrote that when he was 16 years old. Knight just found a guy that worked with him and beat him up to say Vanilla Ice stole his song.

[@Bigand788]

Mob james said chocolate had nothing to do with the song

[@ajjo-ni8mw]

Thought queen & 4 Bowie made all the money from ice ice baby

[@strauqq1]

Interesting!

[@lozenmczapor4771]

Ths Virgil from the wwf Million dollar man?

[@mrkneel5760]

Okay! Good to know

[@mickobrien3156]

The Vanilla Ice story is totally overblown. Vanilla Ice was not properly giving credit to the co-writer, a guy named Chocolate (and that's a hint they were once together... his stage name is opposite Vanilla Ice's... of course they wrote it together). Although Chocolate claims he was the sole writer of the lyrics to Ice Ice Baby. Anyway... Suge did NOT just randomly decide to muscle Vanilla Ice and rob him of his royalties. That's the bs story Vanilla Ice perpetuated (to cover for stealing credit Chocolate). In another Vlad interview... Mob James (Death Row leg-breaker/goon) screws this story up. Because he says Chocolate did not write the song. But in yet another interview, Mob James said he really doesn't know if he did or didn't write the song. Additionally, another Death Row goon claims Mob James wasn't even present during the infamous hotel meeting. If Suge had just randomly stolen Vanilla Ice's royalties through intimidation/extortion... It would be so easy for Vanilla Ice to just hire lawyers and get it back. And Suge would've known attempting to force someone to pay him something they truly own would never work. If Suge did just steal Vanilla Ice's credit, why would Suge stop with just him? He'd steal from many other artists, too. But he didn't. Because it's dumb, wouldn't work, and never happened. Vanilla Ice knew he was stealing. And that's why he caved and signed and never attempted to get anything back.

[@skepchica]

Thank you. Signing over royalties to a stranger then doing nothing makes NO sense. Being presented with undeniable evidence and signing then knowing you had no argument does. Use your head.

[@ericg3065]

Thanks bro people are so stupid. Just do your research and you'll see who's telling the truth.

[@someoneelse293]

35 comments only? vlad falling off

[@rilynjohnson3297]

They aint urban legends wen it come to Suge the dude is in prison for murder he also pretty much admitted to injecting Eazy with Aids

[@barfyman-dm6zx]

Nelson Mandela is looking good!

[@ThePrintButlercom]

Vanilla Ice sold 15 Million records on "To The Extreme"

[@morbidchid]

He actually sold 28 million copies. If you count all the digital downloads, it's up to 160 million. I personally don't.

[@ThePrintButlercom]

nope....15 million...I was close to Tommy (Ice's Manager) & various producers who worked on the Album/CD....here's your proof: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Extreme

[@morbidchid]

Awesome that you worked with Quon and producers. Which ones? Khayree? DeShay? Earthquake? Darryll Williams? Would love to hear some more about that. The record reached 10 million copies in 1991. In 1992, it had reached 11 million copies. In 1998, it had reached 15 million copies. People kept buying it. When Ice releases his album 'Platinum Underground', he mentions on wax that the album has now reached 28 million copies sold. People shouldn't really use Wikipedia as a source. People also dismiss WORLDWIDE sales when talking about To the Extreme. That album was no. 1 all over Asia and Europe.

[@morbidchid]

also, when did you work with them? Before or after To the Extreme? Vlad should interview you next! :)

[@ThePrintButlercom]

Darryl & his partner Wayne Stalling...... I don't know why Wayne's name isn't on the credits....I also worked with Quake as well......and Tommy on other projects..... I know Deshay also.......lol.....you're funny.....interview me next.... but i sent you the link....it says 15 million right there......and I saw the plaques that Darryll & Wayne received.....I was there homey....I arrived in Texas a few months too late to make the project.......but i was there when all the lawsuits hit......I know the stories first hand.....I saw the checks they received after the lawsuit was settled......any more questions??

[@moniquemoore3655]

HILARY JOHNSON BILL CLINTON WOMAN I ORALED I LIKE? YE ? NA

[@prolly2stoned420]

I'm tryna see Troy ave on here

[@Snoozy235]

Gangsta

[@JimmyJames10-k7v]

Who ?

[@stormblessedj]

Virgin Roberts

[@magicsinglez]

Has a white person ever wrote a song? This all might be news to the college graduate prodigies working for the record companies who really write the songs. See, the execs have learned we’re racist. We prefer spending money on performers who are just like us. Why no one over 35 can somehow ever write a song. . Or whatever age it is people stop buying music. That, or all these artist somehow become worse songwriters, terrible songwriters, when they get old. 15, you’re comparable to Beethoven. . . 35. . .after spending 20 years, not only mastering performance, but spending 20 years writing songs. . You’re no good anymore at writing songs.

[@morbidchid]

Chocolate was a liar and a fraud. When Chocolate worked on his own album with Death Row, he needed three ghost writers!

[@papi_sativa]

His voice is awful so difficult to listen to I'm so sorry lol

[@nightthrasher69]

FEAR IS POWER

[@AI-Consultant]

kinda makes sense, since after that vanilla ice really never wrote any more hits ironically.