I agree but it’s still a very respectable product in comparison to other airlines.
@magnustan84110 ай бұрын
Either Singapore SIN-JFK or Starlux would be awesome! Would love to hear about your experiences on the longest flight on earth and probably the airline with the most potential on earth.
@delta_cosmic10 ай бұрын
the reason why people love virgin atlantic (a rather good but not perfect airline) so much is because of how bad british airways is.
@theobent394210 ай бұрын
I really disagree on the very popular BA is bad opinion. New club suite is very good, food is usually excellent, crew are amazing and friendly, and BA economy (long-haul) is pretty damn good as well.
@pennybaxter410 ай бұрын
@@theobent3942 I stopped flying ba years ago they have crammed those new club suites in “ virgin a330 neo upper class ( the exact same product as delta one A330 neos ) are far better than any ba product. plus the clubhouse at Heathrow makes the galleries and Concorde lounge look shameful . Not forgetting the free chauffeur with virgin and private check in area it’s hassle free “ it’s not perfect every flight but it out ways ba .
@briantitchener482910 ай бұрын
I've found BA to be good to be honest. No complaints each time I've flown with them. Criticisms of BA are overblown in my opinion. People jump on the bandwagon.
@ukdavepianoman9 ай бұрын
BA were not very good for quite a few years...but during last 2 years or so they are really turning things around. New Club World is great, FAs are excellent, the food is now really good. Also good loyalty programme with some great holiday deals.
@pennybaxter49 ай бұрын
Virgin is still a no brainier for me . upper class on the a330 neo is great and is the exact same product as delta one on there a330 neos plus the clubhouse is far better than any ba lounge at LHR plus a chauffeur to and from the airport to your home “ with a dedicated check-in “ It’s easy “ crew are friendly .
@ZackYounguk10 ай бұрын
I would say Virgin business is more of a leisure business, not a ‘real’ business. It would impress the economy traveller who is treating themselves, but leave anyone else used to flying in premium class left hanging for something more.
@charlesjay881810 ай бұрын
I agree, their fleet and route network is small and their code sharing agreements with other airlines are not that great
@DogScreenTV10 ай бұрын
I feel the a330 Neo is pretty good, apart from that the rest of their fleet is rubbish
@gobbsmacked977710 ай бұрын
Across all their platforms, Virgin reminds me of something out of an 'Austin Powers' movie . . . enough with the red and purple!
@Goldchain65310 ай бұрын
Back in 2000 they actually had Austin powers on a Boeing 747 for a period of time
@4liter10 ай бұрын
Guaranteed business class product on a newer plane for less than $3500 round trip. (JFK LHR JFK) Way better setup than rolling the dice with a much older fleet at twice the price with delta, united, etc
@dennislin79394 ай бұрын
Great review Coby! One question though…the seats do NOT look like they are lie flat. Could you tell us as bit more about sleeping in different positions on the angled bed? Thanks
@DJTHINKER10 ай бұрын
I flew it yesterday and I completely agree! The hard product has clearly not stood the test of time. It’s literally falling apart!
@LNYT-Aviation10 ай бұрын
Very nice tripreport Coby! I’d love you to review my home airline (AirFrance)! Can’t wait for more :D
@benpman115 ай бұрын
I’m not 100% but I’m pretty sure if you ask they’ll provide pajamas, that was my experience, weren’t provided unless you asked!
@thevirgintraveller10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you on the IFE, I'm flying Delta in 2 weeks to ATL, it will be interesting to compare the two carriers content. I guess the crew make the experience, on my last flight from MIA to LHR in Upper Class, the crew couldn't of worked harder if they tried, they were catering to a particular demanding cabin.
@bradcolby362410 ай бұрын
The Costco hoodie may have something to do with your experience 😊
@IshaanKerurАй бұрын
I think you should make a Starlux biz video. We all have seen SQ24/23 biz and Air France’s
@jeffnay33869 ай бұрын
Please review United Polaris on a transatlantic flight. I'd love to see your review and be able to compare it to the others you've done.
@whitneywastesaway10 ай бұрын
This was my experience as well! Great video
@vin3458110 ай бұрын
Great trip report! Would personally like to see your take on Singapore Airlines' business class (feels overrated too) If you're looking for a somewhat underrated but really great product I strongly recommend ANA's The Room on majority of their 777-300ERs.
@marcwenger942410 ай бұрын
Love the Costco hoodie. Where did you get it?
@CobyExplores10 ай бұрын
Costco haha
@andrepflugbeil171110 ай бұрын
@@CobyExploresno way!! A Costco hoodie at Costco??? Wow. 🤪
@lirycmil10 ай бұрын
I've flown both aisle and in the center section. Aisle seats are pretty good but the seats in the center section are just awkward when you're traveling by yourself seated next to a stranger. The divider between the 2 seats feels "broken" as it only closes halfway, leaving you to see your seatmate's thigh when you're in the bed position!! OK I get the half doors to the aisle but in between seats? Just seems like poor design or cost cutting maybe?? It just looks and feels wrong. Even in older generation of business class with minimal to no privacy, there is at least a center console or large armrest/table between you and your seat mate....so only your upper body "lack privacy". But here you're literally shoulder to shoulder with a stranger and then head to head when you lay down...
@well-blazeredman618710 ай бұрын
Good review. That rooftop terrace: not exactly Changi's Jewel is it?
@GeorgeKershaw-iv6xb10 ай бұрын
Would love to aee you review China Southern business class. I truly believe that they are going to be the next major player in world airline travel. Buy are they up to it? I hope so as I'm booked with them in September! 😂
@pablorubio82879 ай бұрын
"In that gorgeous Virgin livery, she looks brand spanking new" bro knew what he was doing with those words
@eternalfxcts6 ай бұрын
LOL
@ulrichschenk820210 ай бұрын
Honestly: The title is a bit clickbaity. I can't remember that Virgin is known for its outstanding Business class. From you video I would say it's a pretty decent product with ups and downs. Don't get me wrong, Emirates or other similar Airlines do it better but Virgin gets you from A to B well rested
@Elliasp-xx7mb10 ай бұрын
9:01 omg ! Just saw you can move your ears 🤣😂🤣
@andrepflugbeil171110 ай бұрын
I suggest to try Qatar. Service quality might vary, but it’s quite nice in general.
@alrightydave10 ай бұрын
Gonna be flying virgin’s premium economy this summer and the 350/787 for the first time to India
@colinrenfrew4810 ай бұрын
The Virgin brand and it’s contents needs a makeover. Most passengers want a good service, and don’t care about the cool factor the airline tries to present.
@Aurora-p7r10 ай бұрын
Yeah those pink purple lights are draining. Nice review tho!
@composimple36410 ай бұрын
Flew virgin last year in May from Shanghai to London in 787, impressive service, but I do think they fed too much alcohol to the guests. A guy had at least 7-8 drinks sitting near me (as you may know about the lack of privacy on its 787 business class) started harassing people. The flight attendant had to try to tie him down into the seat with seat belt. Also by the time the plane landed he didn’t forget to throw up.😂😂😂😂😂
@aaasingh10 ай бұрын
same exact thing happened on my 787 flight from IAD-LHR. it was scary.
@PorterHouse-Steak2 ай бұрын
Flight Attendants offer, but you can say no 🤷🏽♂️
@composimple3642 ай бұрын
@@PorterHouse-Steak Right 😂 crew should limit drinks they serve within a certain period of time tho
@thebaseballcow202410 ай бұрын
Never been on virgin but this changed my opinion from “really want to try them out” to second guessing myself (due to price and expectations being lowered)
@PorterHouse-Steak2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn’t totally alter my desire to try something new based on a complaining KZbinr. I’ve flown Virgin UpperClass and I was absolutely DELIGHTED by the crew. Food was soOo good and that goes a long way. Hard product is not the greatest but the service more than makes up for it. Don’t miss out on a great aviation experience!
@r12004rewy10 ай бұрын
Believe it or not it doesn't actually rain in London every day although this year so far has been a tad wet, but that aside, Virgin used to be very good and would offer a unique product but now unfortunately they are pretty average for a $10,000 fight that looked grim, the lighting should certainly be changed once cruising altitude has been reached, I would of been pretty dissapointed with that flight.
@RandomLifeProductions10 ай бұрын
Here is the thing you can ask for pyjamas if you want them on virgin.
@elliebeep2710 ай бұрын
I really enjoy flying VS upper class.. shrug!
@guillodean9 ай бұрын
Reeled in by the clickbait title here... I think you were unlucky with the crew - I've always found Virgin crew to be at least good. One thing I noticed that wasn't mentioned was the wear and tear / quality of the seat and surrounding bits. Like the A350 I flew on to LAX last year - the same actual aircraft I think - it was wearing very badly for such a new (to them) aircraft. Neither this or the 787 biz seat have much storage or privacy but I prefer the 787 for sleeping as it's less claustrophobic and closed in.
@donjuce7 ай бұрын
I think most flight attendants goof off on most us and European airlines. I would never pay for business or first class, I do not see the value in it.
@msaylorBTC100M10 ай бұрын
you dont fly Virgin... you use Virgin miles to book partner airlines like ANA
@simonm99643 ай бұрын
Ditch the Costco hoodie next time, perhaps that was the issue ;)
@glorfindel1710 ай бұрын
“Stolen from Virgin Atlantic”, I have a set at home ☺️
@brian4029 ай бұрын
🙄Stolen Sir?
@howardshepherdson292510 ай бұрын
A great review!
@edward800910 ай бұрын
Love the sweatshirt 👍
@flyboy747uk10 ай бұрын
The 787 is even worse with it's seating configuration and how uncomfortable the seat is. Totally agree with your comments, I flew to Las Vegas in Upper Class a few weeks ago, very average really considering the price.
@johannesbols576 ай бұрын
I don't think your title is clickbait at all. If somebody thinks it's unreasonable to expect good service in Business Class they should just fly steerage and shut up.
@alphamalegold10 ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown
@christuck-n7e9 ай бұрын
you should try the coffin bed seats! they are terrible. no storage, narrow and IFE system that is so old that you expect black and white!! you do get privacy though. agree Virgin is overpriced for it's business class unless you get reward tickets
@JordCA10 ай бұрын
Hmm, good review. Please do not loop the music like that.
@Lmaofunye9910 ай бұрын
Bro stop blaming a350 for that it’s like saying 737 landings are bad just because you were in ryanair
@Dylanmcmahon7810 ай бұрын
Please fly aer Lingus business class
@MPDLR10 ай бұрын
Doing NYC to DELHI this summer. Sadly - just knocked Virgin off my list. I won't pay premium for something that isn't premium. They have a "social area" yet you and your travel partner can barely talk in those seats. They are flying big planes - yet dont serve beef for the environment. Then this video makes excellent points. Ugh. Looks like I'm doing the Doha thing. THANK YOU FOR AN HONEST REAL REVIEW. I don't want "100% perfect" reviews if not warranted. Nor do I want a 100% complain session if not warranted. But you've pointed out REAL issues - things that wouldn't be acceptable at a mid-range chain restaurant. If flyers keep booming seats, they'll get away with it and things will get worse: Just look at America's airlines for a hint of what is to come. Hey, flyers, especially premium flyers - vote with your money. If not - don't complain and be happy with Stouffer's French Bread pizza.
@M158-o3x10 ай бұрын
good content, very annoying voice... You can find far more competitively priced tickets than what you presented
@tomaschaloupka205810 ай бұрын
Very annoying voice !
@맛있는된장찌개10 ай бұрын
Haha omg.... so sharp critics~~
@captn_railaviation10 ай бұрын
Condor is way more terrible than this…
@JayJay-gr8vw3 ай бұрын
Complaints, complaints and more complaints… boring video, I did not finish it.
@christianeduardo110 ай бұрын
Clickbait.
@jcaam809410 ай бұрын
Overrated, according to a youtube blogger? And it's really disgusting to put your smelly socks on a seat shared with others.
@JurivonStolzenberg1410 ай бұрын
Can you imagine how much cheaper and eco friendly would be if less woukd be transported on board and rubbish raken out? If free food woukd be dine as free buffet and rume on board just resting , even toilets use / capacity coukd be reduced . Less weight , less risk , less fuel consumption , more capacity for commercial parcels/ revenue, and more price efficiency. Humans have not evolved much.
@ambgaming969810 ай бұрын
i mean, what did you expect. the a350 itself is super overrated.
@TrapKingz.10 ай бұрын
More like the a380 such an overrated ugly looking plane
@mattbar1510 ай бұрын
Oh I just enter the airbus hater club without notice 😅
@TrapKingz.10 ай бұрын
@@mattbar15 actually airbus>boeing all day any day. In fact the a350 is a beautiful plane. OP is trippen
@LNYT-Aviation10 ай бұрын
No way you just said the A350 is overrated, at least it doesn’t plunge mid flight for no reason, and the JAL516 crash wasn’t due to any A350´s malfunction, plus honestly you can’t say in general that a plane is overrated, it doesn’t make any sense, as it’s the airline’s duty to edit the cabins, and honestly, the A350 is amazing and many airlines use it to replace a330s, b767, and even 777s
@TrapKingz.10 ай бұрын
@@LNYT-Aviation a350 is an amazing plane. Unlike the ugly looking a380 whale
@AidenLegends1010 ай бұрын
Air Canada biz or WestJet biz
@stumbledotcom10 ай бұрын
Pretty much mirrors my experience. I did SFO-LHR-SFO on the 787 prior to the pandemic. High expectations but walked away disappointed and determined never to fly VS again. Clubhouses, both SFO and LHR, were the highlight. The Dreamliner’s old herringbone layout hasn’t been competitive for years. Onboard service was uneven. Food deeply mediocre and small portions. Crew entertained a couple from premium economy (non-revs I’d guess) in the bar area for much of the overnight flight. Frankly I find United Polaris superior in most aspects.