Virtual Influencers Are Out of Hand

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@theox8313
@theox8313 7 ай бұрын
I can't help but laugh at the fact Noonoouri was described as a teen but she's run by a bunch of old dudes who proceeded to make her music video very sexual lmao
@EliaHerreraT
@EliaHerreraT 7 ай бұрын
It’s pretty accurate for any “teen girl” form of entertainment tho, lmao.
@theox8313
@theox8313 7 ай бұрын
@@EliaHerreraT it's not even the whole "teen girl" aesthetic it's the fact it's a bunch of just grown men working on this project and her music video, photos, and ect are just sexual. I find that to be very odd...
@rosary_omen
@rosary_omen 7 ай бұрын
I don't wanna imagine their search history. Feels creepy with a bunch of men making a young woman character that looks like a Bratz doll
@nullskey8370
@nullskey8370 7 ай бұрын
yeah why are they so adamant about the teen angle....
@wrendoesnothing
@wrendoesnothing 7 ай бұрын
@@nullskey8370 because with VR girls, they can get away with sexualizing them 🥰😍 at least that's my theory. which, i agree, gross.
@the20somethingGrandma
@the20somethingGrandma 7 ай бұрын
Noonouri sounds like they wanted her to have a European accent but they couldn't decide what country they wanted her to be from so they just did all of them
@NinjaPiParadox
@NinjaPiParadox 7 ай бұрын
It sounds like an intentionally unflattering impression of what middle aged dudes think young pop stars sound like. Its so bad it almost feels like a joke.
@BabyChao
@BabyChao 7 ай бұрын
She sounds and reminds me alot of Cherry from Studio Killers but creepy... I don't like it 😱
@_Funaroma
@_Funaroma 7 ай бұрын
@@BabyChaothey definitely took “inspiration” from her
@thebigdork8030
@thebigdork8030 12 күн бұрын
Euro vision's chosen one
@inrodu_1027
@inrodu_1027 7 ай бұрын
the fact that noonoowhatever is specifically made to be a TEEN influencer, but those bearded, full grown men are specifically **choosing** to give her sexy outfits...not even virtual teen girls are safe from being sexualized by adults
@Naokarma
@Naokarma 6 ай бұрын
I like how you say "not even virtual teen girls are safe" as if they're not by far the most likely to be sexualized by adults.
@konamiku58
@konamiku58 6 ай бұрын
virtual teen girls are the least safe unfortunately
@emofried
@emofried 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@konamiku58i think women irl are the least safe from sexualization
@bethanychatman9531
@bethanychatman9531 4 ай бұрын
​@@Naokarmanah, real life girls and women are sexualized more and can actually be gurt because they're people.
@coreycarries6325
@coreycarries6325 4 ай бұрын
Okay but they don’t exist? They’re not real? They are indeed the men behind them?
@kaitlynnelson2139
@kaitlynnelson2139 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone else find it icky that one of the “personality traits” this fake teenage girl made by a group of old men has is keeping her house clean 😐
@goneawayxx
@goneawayxx 4 ай бұрын
I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE THAT.....
@username-mk4qv
@username-mk4qv 4 ай бұрын
Doesn’t surprise me. Why wouldn’t the dirty old men who insist on making all virtual servants female, also be p3dophiles in addition to being misogynists? Lol
@TheJeannag
@TheJeannag 7 ай бұрын
The fact that we had Vocaloids decades ago that looked better, had decent animation, and had banger tunes (that I still sometimes find myself singing) - and yet a company in this day and age cannot create something better is wild
@-_CaM_-
@-_CaM_- 7 ай бұрын
+ vocaloids song are made by the community itself (since people can buy the voicebank and use them) And the fact that a community can make better stuff than those Company (for exemple animation, models,...) make me laugh so hard
@TheJeannag
@TheJeannag 7 ай бұрын
@@-_CaM_- Right?! It's like how fan edits, fan art, and fan animations continue to be better than some of the stuff we see on screen X'D
@-_CaM_-
@-_CaM_- 7 ай бұрын
@@TheJeannag that's true ngl X)
@anglepsycho
@anglepsycho 7 ай бұрын
And one of them got remade and looks almost definitely human. Teto, that is, she looks stunning now and is no longer a shitpost of a joke.
@tomoritakamatsu
@tomoritakamatsu 7 ай бұрын
even some of the lowest quality utau voicebanks would appeal to me more than whatever these ai singers are😭
@bethabugaboo
@bethabugaboo 7 ай бұрын
I think its important that the concept of virtual artists can be done correctly, just not like this. I think the best example is Gorillaz. The "Band" is completely fictional, but they have real people behind it. They have a singer/songwriter and an animator. No one is losing jobs over this virtual band , but the ideas and vision can still be expressed.
@TheDJBunch
@TheDJBunch 7 ай бұрын
Hey, random question but do you know the name of the song Jarvis is using in the background of the ad read he does?
@scaredgirlplaysfnaf
@scaredgirlplaysfnaf 7 ай бұрын
There’s a group with the same virtual artist concept, studio killers, which Nonoorui (or however u spell it- I really do not care lol) seems to be HIGHLY influenced by. The aesthetic, the voice, the character herself, the instrumental. It’s all there.
@3lixir0fD3ath
@3lixir0fD3ath 7 ай бұрын
@@TheDJBunch I got you man it’s Canals by Joakim Karud
@eggyonline5308
@eggyonline5308 7 ай бұрын
@@scaredgirlplaysfnaf​I’m so glad someone else said this I thought I was losing it 😭 like is dominos not just straight up ripping off ode to the bouncer by studio killers ???
@Dahk
@Dahk 7 ай бұрын
Nothing will ever top Yameii
@foxgender
@foxgender 7 ай бұрын
I find it really interesting how virtual influencers are considered so creepy or weird or dystopian, when we've had other examples like Hatsune Miku and Gorillaz for so long. I think the difference between these two and the rest is that there's inherent humanness behind them; versus how Noonunori and Lechat are so, so, corporate feeling. You can't see any thoughts or feelings or intent behind them other than profit. Hatsune Miku is a vocaloid program, which makes her essentially an instrument, and that leaves a ton of opportunity for emotion to be behind the music you create with her. I know a lot less about Gorillaz, but to my knowledge they're essentially just mascots, with real people behind them?idk, if someone with more knowledge could reply to this that'd be awesome! My point is ... the lack of humanness seems to be what makes these virtual influencers so weird. Uncanny valley, almost.
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 6 ай бұрын
The Gorillaz characters are not just mascots, they're characters with backstories and personalities. Trust me, the lore is insane
@Maukiki2
@Maukiki2 6 ай бұрын
@@sophitiaofhyrulemurdoc makes door pregnant by humping it
@buupy
@buupy 6 ай бұрын
whit Gorillaz, like the reply above, they are not just a mascot of the band, they are portrait as the band in its entirely, each one has a name and their own personality and backstory and how they got to the band they also have their own relationship whit themselves and the creators always show us those dynamics in video clips (and they used to have cartoon shorts years ago), so they aren't just there and existing in the same place to be a visual for the song also another thing, is that in each album you see the characters changing in some way, like we do, they don't stay whit the same clothes and overall same appearance forever a good example is the character Noddle, on the first release we see her as a little girl and as the other songs albums are released, you see that shes growing up, and we see her go from a little kid to a teenager to an young adult and you also see her personality and aesthetics changing and how her attitude towards the other members changed as she grew up whit them and you can also notice on the other members that they had aged too so they aren't just there, they have much more going on in and out of the screen
@buupy
@buupy 6 ай бұрын
also just to add to my own reply cus it was getting too long, lmao i think one of the biggest differences between Gorillaz and Miku vs these ai virtual singers whatever is that even though we see Miku and Gorillaz as the ones dancing and singing the song, you know that there is a person behind them who made the song and animated everything whit Miku, we know about how different people arrange her tone, we know the name of said artist, and that there is a huge effort being made behind every live performance, and it's not ignored by the fandom whit Gorillaz, we know who is the vocalist, we know hes the one whoe created everything and that he is 2Ds voice (the character who is the vocalist) we see the actual people from the band on live performances, we know that there's a whole team behind it, animating it while whit those ai singer the companies try to tell us that they are human like and they r the ones singing and dancing by themselves and kinda of trying to completely brush the fact that there is a whole team working behind the scenes so its not a revolutionary instrument that can be used to anyone to create any song that their heart desires like Miku or a passionate project made by a group of people that has a deep history and connection whit its fans like Gorillaz its just companies copying each other trying to show a character who has the same characteristics every time (virtual singer and dancer, whole plot is "im virtual and youre human :(", songs are very similar, dont really have a personality, bland background, colerful hair and basic clothes, only do anythingrelated to current trends, i could go on forever) and always saying its a "revolutionary! never seen before!" when its just,,,a random 3d model dancing on the screen and they also, unlike Miku and Gorillaz, completely ignore the human work that goes behind everything, we dont even know who is the voice or writers behind those ai characters exactly (i think there was a company that straight up scammed and stole an artist work for one of the ai singers) thats what cuts it for everyone, is just companies trying to push the ai thing to try to be big in an easy and fast way, showing how easily human work can be replaced and overshadowed by a machine
@bvabildtrup
@bvabildtrup 5 ай бұрын
Gorillaz was initially sort of a satire of the boybands and girl-groups at the turn of the century (I think), but really it's just a Damon Albarn solo-project with cool art, lore and concept to it. It's funny that what Gorillaz was a reaction to, like Back street boys, Nsync, Britney Spears, Spicegirls etc. those groups are like Mozart and Beethoven compared to something like that Noonoo abomination.
@apt_get
@apt_get 7 ай бұрын
On the Japanese-speaking internet, we are really used to seeing virtual singers like KAF acquire very dedicated fans. I think the difference is that KAF is portrayed by a single human being and the producers of her songs are platformed about as much as KAF itself. It bothers me that these “virtual influencers” are all about minimizing the individual. I think that’s what makes them feel so inauthentic- it’s a bunch of dudes pretending to be a girl. It’s not a girl using a character for anonymity or creative flexibility.
@_yeahyeah
@_yeahyeah 4 ай бұрын
omg i love kaf!!! she has a vocaloid-like character too (kafu)
@punxsutawneyphilofficial
@punxsutawneyphilofficial 7 ай бұрын
Noonouri being a "teenage influencer" with a younger body type and sexualized outfits run by grown-ass men gives me a real ick
@sunshineflicker6120
@sunshineflicker6120 7 ай бұрын
VERY THIS! They just want an excuse to make digital models of children wearing "sexy" costumes and doing dances. It's gross not artistic in any way
@aldranzam3456
@aldranzam3456 7 ай бұрын
"a woman we can finally have complete control over!!" It's a creep's fantasy.
@jinx7641
@jinx7641 7 ай бұрын
​@ville__ who cares
@masterace9543
@masterace9543 7 ай бұрын
​@@ville__ur just as sick
@juicymilk69
@juicymilk69 7 ай бұрын
​@@OfficerZlockdoubt
@marqkc
@marqkc 7 ай бұрын
Artists don't want this, writers don't want this, actors don't want this, and consumers don't want this. The only people in support of blatant cash grabs are the companies behind them and the dumb fools that got played by them.
@jaokeki
@jaokeki 7 ай бұрын
And the weird old dudes with fetishes for controlling said (teenaged) virtual influencers. ick
@izzz222
@izzz222 7 ай бұрын
@@jaokekii love ur pfp
@enskii26
@enskii26 7 ай бұрын
I feel like this is for kids, right? If these guys take out Kidz Bop, idgaf. Still weird though
@jaokeki
@jaokeki 7 ай бұрын
​@@izzz222 thank you!
@gothicmuffinofdoom
@gothicmuffinofdoom 7 ай бұрын
Being a 3D artist by trade, it was so funny seeing all these new virtual characters, they look a lot like the character projects your start doing as a student before you learn all the rules of anatomy or stylization. The look kind of human, but not really. Thanks for taking one for the team Jarvis. This feels like all businesspeople and no artists.
@icephoenix174
@icephoenix174 5 ай бұрын
As a hobbyist beginning 3D artist, I feel personally attacked. But I also agree lol
@kaemincha
@kaemincha 4 ай бұрын
Definitely feels like tech bros stepping onto CGI artists turf without actually employing anyone from the field
@rasurin
@rasurin 4 ай бұрын
That's precisely what it is, it's tech bros with their weird ass hate for creatives everywhere and trying to cut them out of the profits
@megabyte1302
@megabyte1302 7 ай бұрын
Bruh how did they make a fake robot barely legal and STILL sexualize it??? The only good thing that'll come out of this is imagining one of those dudes having to perform the provocative dances and poses in full motion capture in front of his buddies.
@AdrianWoodUK
@AdrianWoodUK 7 ай бұрын
I spoke personally to LeChat earlier and asked what her hobbies were. She said "As a Learning Language Model, I don't have hobbies, but here are some popular hobbies", and proceeded to list 12 different activities including "stamp collecting", "watching movies", and "stamp collecting".
@imanijohnson1340
@imanijohnson1340 7 ай бұрын
RIVETING~
@Squeep1
@Squeep1 7 ай бұрын
All the kids today are into stamp collecting, not to be confused with stamp collecting which is also very popular among them kids nowadays
@ohliveeahy
@ohliveeahy 7 ай бұрын
@@Squeep1 I agree! my friends are always mixing the two up. It's honestly really simple, stamp collecting is when you get stamps for a collection and stamp collecting is when you find stamps to collect!
@starlightkid49
@starlightkid49 6 ай бұрын
hope shes enjoying stamp collecting!
@slendyfia_9497
@slendyfia_9497 6 ай бұрын
Wait, has she included stamp collecting (i can't read, sorry😔)?? It's like, so popular nowadays
@jeffgoldblum7214
@jeffgoldblum7214 7 ай бұрын
I hate that these 'AI' 'influencers' are made to look like young people and have aspirational backstories meanwhile the companies behind them are shutting doors to millions of young people trying to break into the industry. They're actually just stealing an image and kicking people to the kerb
@jeffgoldblum7214
@jeffgoldblum7214 7 ай бұрын
Especially when they appropriate from black young people like with FN Meka meanwhile these corporations are still 90% white
@RealElongatedMuskrat
@RealElongatedMuskrat 7 ай бұрын
that's a good point actually. It's so gross.
@TGVBT640
@TGVBT640 6 ай бұрын
very good point my guy
@sylv256
@sylv256 6 ай бұрын
welcome to the crushing ennui of late-stage capitalism!
@ona512
@ona512 5 ай бұрын
I think this is what we should see as wrong here. I see too many comments focusing on the fact that the character is young and everyone who is making her is old and that's creepy somehow, God forbid humans age. No, I think we should realize these people who have funds to hire a team are keeping people with no money who are real and young from the industry by making perma-young artists who can make algo-music forever.
@Historyofstitchery
@Historyofstitchery 7 ай бұрын
(On the one girl being a model) As someone who is forced to learn about the bizarre antics of the fashion industry for my major. Major fashion houses and brands are trying SO hard to make nft clothing, the metaverse, and stuff like this a huge thing. They want to appeal to the youths(TM), and also be on the cutting edge of fashion. I want to work in history and/or costuming and my life choices have brought me to seeing Roblox characters wearing Ralph Lauren and Gucci. Somebody sedate me.
@grrbarking
@grrbarking 6 ай бұрын
ohh that's super interesting! I mean its hell but I've never thought about metaverse clothes. Oh my god as if digital purchases weren't bad enough already in virtual games
@audendum
@audendum 7 ай бұрын
"if only we had Taylor Swift that could change quicker. we'd be making millions if she didn't need so many wardrobes" i'm a theatrical wardrobe supervisor and that is like. that's genuinely what the director seems to think when i'm struggling to speed up a costume quickchange backstage
@magibear357
@magibear357 7 ай бұрын
i really don't understand what these companies are misrepresenting actual successful virtual influencers...? like. hatsune miku is extremely successful for a reason. that reason being that she is not an entity for a Corporation to control, and instead a TOOL that EVERYONE CAN CONTROL because the company has created her *for the literal purpose of being a voice bank.* the corporation created a voice bank (with the source being a real actual human being who was paid handsomely and adequately credited) and then sold that voice bank as a product for other musicians to use. hatsune miku is so successful because she came with a brand identity tied to a product and people loved her (made-up) personality and her (made-up) voice so much that they decided to build off of it, and then created a whole beautiful and expansive universe where the world is hers. virtual influencers can only ever truly succeed if these companies making these shoddy gimmicks actually pay attention to consumers and their behavior instead of just trying to shove these influencers in to where literal babies scrolling through tiktok can see them and fit them alongside the game ads that they usually see.
@jenelaina5665
@jenelaina5665 7 ай бұрын
See you can see that insight but that's because your be all end all first and foremost motivation ain't profit.
@capybaraenthusiast5164
@capybaraenthusiast5164 7 ай бұрын
What Hastune Miku and Gorillaz have in common is that the fictional persona used are really just the tools to drive the individual's artistry. But back to Miku/Vocaloid, we see how these digital pop stars *actually* go global when the company understands the value within it are the real people behind it all. The concerts, the games, the merchandise, etc etc. these all highlight and give credit to the actual people who made songs using miku and/or other vocaloid. They've made an uplifting and welcoming community with their product where everyone just wants to *create* at the end of the day. But all these corporations think is "hey we could make a cute 3d girl dance and sing too, lets make our own and we'll rich by the afternoon!"
@risingsuperstarfrost3096
@risingsuperstarfrost3096 7 ай бұрын
As a lifelong vocaloid fan, Hatsune Miku is also an entity for a corporation to control. The average user won't run into issues but Crpyton owns the rights to her image.
@ducklikeachicken
@ducklikeachicken 7 ай бұрын
"world is hers" i saw that hehehehe
@jadelee0591
@jadelee0591 7 ай бұрын
polar is a gimmick of a corporate plant, miku is an art movement despite the fact that she is also a product. polar, le chat and the rest like them, will NEVER be miku.
@remem95
@remem95 7 ай бұрын
Old men: *make sexualized teen character* Also old men: *make her say* "My creators are great hard working artists with keen eyes and a vision"
@abbycantrell1369
@abbycantrell1369 7 ай бұрын
If she ends up failing, they could always try to claim that she's an allegory for the predatory music industry and that she was actually a social statement this whole time, lol 😂
@Quaila
@Quaila 7 ай бұрын
This! They are so pathetic!!!
@sylv256
@sylv256 6 ай бұрын
hatsune miku was the original “virtual influencer” and nobody can take that away from us
@sylv256
@sylv256 6 ай бұрын
also what’s sexualized about it exactly? i haven’t looked at the character a lot but if they did the models like they do fortnite characters i’m gonna be kinda weirded out *edit:* ok yeah i see it now
@JayFolipurba
@JayFolipurba 6 ай бұрын
They showed the 40 year-old dude mocapping the teen girl character. And now all the sexy dance moves she does have lost all appeal
@GotInterest
@GotInterest 7 ай бұрын
what kills me is that there are already successful virtual musical acts. Gorillaz, K/DA, Studio Killerz. None of these musical acts show the actual artists behind them as the face. You could even argue that Miku falls into this category (despite her and other vocaloids being more akin to musical instruments, they are marketed like idols and Miku does have her own music videos and has toured before). The reason why all of these work and are successful is because the focus is on the music. These guys are tech bros. They want to sell technology, not music, but are still trying to market in the music industry. There is a fundamental mismatch here.
@SlantedSpines
@SlantedSpines 7 ай бұрын
It’s uncomfortable for me that a bunch of guys created this “sexy” “teen” pop star that they can manipulate to do whatever they want…
@pajamaramayt
@pajamaramayt 7 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you let Drew walk all the way back to Florida by himself. Smh
@cdadamly
@cdadamly 7 ай бұрын
No one could keep up with Drew!
@frogie3119
@frogie3119 7 ай бұрын
@@cdadamlyBut what if someone tries to take advantage of him!?!? 😢
@NovelBurger
@NovelBurger 7 ай бұрын
what was jarvis gonna do catch up and stop him he was just a blur
@harperthegreat
@harperthegreat 7 ай бұрын
@@cdadamly BY A MILE!
@AdaireKrickets
@AdaireKrickets 7 ай бұрын
He didn't! Drew moonwalked back
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 7 ай бұрын
“Humans are naturally evolving towards a more ultimate, superior human being, and we think we can use technology to help-“ what in the eugenics batman
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 7 ай бұрын
Le Chat They named her either 2005 memespeak “the chat” or French “the cat” which like. If a cat girl vtuber with a human being attached to it calls themselves “le chat” I can find that a little funny but if it’s what y’all named ur for profit AI oc... idk abt all that
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 7 ай бұрын
I don’t like. I’m possibly just old by being an adult at all but I’m gonna be 30 pretty soon and I don’t like how severe the baby face is, I don’t like that instead of figuring out how to not exploit teenagers brands are just creating ethically dubious semi fictional teenagers
@hornitako7006
@hornitako7006 7 ай бұрын
Armored Core 6 plot belike
@ResidentMilf
@ResidentMilf 7 ай бұрын
Also, not how evolution works. It isn't directed toward some ultimate goal, it's adaptive. What is considered "superior" is completely dependent on environment.
@rat3015
@rat3015 7 ай бұрын
​@@davidhetherman8127i feel like you stopped reading their comment at baby face
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby 6 ай бұрын
The CGI one broke the first rule of Vtubing and virtual 'girlfriends': Dont break the immersion.
@rott3n-
@rott3n- 7 ай бұрын
i wrote an essay about virtual artists, just like gorillaz, studiokillers and hatsune miku, and they're great artists with amazing music. The difference between these artists and metaverse avatars like noonoouri its that there are real artists behind the avatars, not an ai voice (the case of hatsune miku is different bc she is a voice bank, but her songs are created by skilled producers, and her concerts almost always have a full orchestra with her)
@axolirvin971
@axolirvin971 Ай бұрын
Also, the voice actors that did the voices for vocoloids are celebrated by fans and talked about by name.
@radiophobia1974
@radiophobia1974 7 ай бұрын
it's bizarre that this is even a thing considering people have been doing this for years. gorillaz started in the 90's, studio killers since the 2010's, and vocaloid has been a thing since like 2004??? like the virtual band thing has existed for a WHILE.
@decap_dan3991
@decap_dan3991 7 ай бұрын
There's even a virtual Black Metal band, Belzebubs. Who are based on a webcomic.
@meiruez
@meiruez 7 ай бұрын
kim pfp my beloved
@ishathakor
@ishathakor 7 ай бұрын
to be fair being an artist with a virtual avatar and being an INFLUENCER with a virtual avatar are very different things. like with the artists they just wanna make art without making their actual face (and voice in some cases) part of their public image. influencers literally run on selling their own image??
@nari5161
@nari5161 7 ай бұрын
Studio Killers! No one talks about Cherry when this stuff comes up
@mundanepants
@mundanepants 7 ай бұрын
It's tech bros. If they're not taking credit for inventing trains, they're busy taking credit for all the other things that already exist in more functional forms
@canningtuna
@canningtuna 7 ай бұрын
tell me why they could have made noonoouri (who of course must be in as many sexy bathing suits as possible) ANY age and they chose to make her a teenager
@xxvskrunkle
@xxvskrunkle 7 ай бұрын
LIKE EWW 🤮
@mokonarose01
@mokonarose01 7 ай бұрын
That's all I was thinking about watching the clips. Why is she a TEENAGER💀
@notthedoctor1789
@notthedoctor1789 7 ай бұрын
I also think it's weird that a bunch of dudes when with making the avatar/model female when the whole team is made of men.
@matheusvitors.9842
@matheusvitors.9842 7 ай бұрын
I'd guess because she is supposed to appeal to teenagers
@gremlinwc8996
@gremlinwc8996 7 ай бұрын
That's like how roblox specified that their projected dating app would be for people 17+. Like ik dating ages vary from place to place and there's statutory laws, but as an American company they could've easily just made it 18, but they went with leaving it as 17+, so now there's room for p3d0ph1l1a that could've easily been avoided. Like they go out of their way to make it creepy
@ActuallyYoda69
@ActuallyYoda69 6 ай бұрын
Being honest, after Polar I haven't really seen anyone talk about these "virtual idols" at all. These companies are trying so hard yet nobody cares anymore. Everyone loved making fun of Polar, but after that was done people just moved on. People prefer VTubers, because they actually have personality, they aren't corporate products, so people just don't want these "Virtual Idols" right now.
@spacecatnnabell
@spacecatnnabell 7 ай бұрын
watching jarvis repeat "The cat" Over and over again is so funny to me for no reason
@nicky55
@nicky55 7 ай бұрын
I hate the language that article has, it's not a human, it isn't cleaning its house, it's all lies. Also making her look young, officially a teenager then sexualizing her is so gross. Not to mention removing humans out of the equation, this whole thing is disgusting
@imanijohnson1340
@imanijohnson1340 7 ай бұрын
And I HATE that so many of these are lazy versions of established characters. I INSTANTLY get “n3ko” from Aryark’s Cytus from LeChat, and StudioKillers vibes from Noona It’s all cheap knockoffs of successful characters that are juuuus “underground” enough they think no one will notice -___-
@Naokarma
@Naokarma 6 ай бұрын
@@imanijohnson1340 You're honestly going way farther than these companies even went. Pretty sure they just went "What's popular with those animes your grandkids watch? What's that? Teenage girls with cat ears? Well, if you say so."
@LJCG777
@LJCG777 Ай бұрын
​@@imanijohnson1340 really I was really preocupied by the thumbnail thinking StudioKillers had dipped this low after these years
@ChimeraGirl_
@ChimeraGirl_ 7 ай бұрын
Something about a teenage CGI girl actually being a bunch of middle aged men bothers me... lol
@comyuse9103
@comyuse9103 7 ай бұрын
its just the internet we were promised in the 90s!
@Eebers
@Eebers 7 ай бұрын
Yes i was hoping jarvis would bring this up. They can do whatever they want with this character and she cannot consent to any of it. Much like how meka was created by a white guy, he can portray this person however he wants
@ChimeraGirl_
@ChimeraGirl_ 7 ай бұрын
@@Eebers Yeah...I think you hit the nail on the head there! Icky.
@cupids_favourite_aro4578
@cupids_favourite_aro4578 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, and the very skimpy outfits are a bit🤢
@ButWhy-te5xj
@ButWhy-te5xj 6 ай бұрын
A teenage girl wearing a trech coat
@ennuibarbie
@ennuibarbie 7 ай бұрын
For me the only 3 "virtual" artist that work as a concept are The Gorillaz, Studio Killers, and Miku Hatsune. I don't group KDA in that because that shit is a AD by a video game company. The reason Miku works is because her "character" is made by the community. The compnay had nothing to do with her other than putting her on a CD as a mascot for the software.
@AiLoveAidoru
@AiLoveAidoru 6 ай бұрын
don't forget Kizuna Ai, and Hololive a few years later.
@saraelizabeth589
@saraelizabeth589 7 ай бұрын
Can we give a moment to appreciate Jarvis's hair? I feel like it looks healthier every time he makes a video
@Fluff_Noodles
@Fluff_Noodles 7 ай бұрын
It truly is.
@Fandom_Maniac
@Fandom_Maniac 7 ай бұрын
we got miku, gorillaz, and other good virtual artists we do NOT need virtual influencers please and thank you :) edit: okay miku is an instrument, not an artist herself, she's just a voicebank made for others to use for songs and stuff sorry for the mix up
@vfl0werswife
@vfl0werswife 7 ай бұрын
real. MIKU DID IT BETTERRRRRRRR
@mokonarose01
@mokonarose01 7 ай бұрын
Also vtubers, but I guess that's too human for these companies
@Fandom_Maniac
@Fandom_Maniac 7 ай бұрын
@@mokonarose01 oh yeah I forgot about them
@18puppies91
@18puppies91 7 ай бұрын
Have you seen how well produced CodeMikos tech is? Yet this is what news companies show, as this is where they receive money.
@GarfieldPhone
@GarfieldPhone 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure there's room for independent folks to create characters to be fictional influencers. I've had ideas for stuff like that. Rather than being tech bro shit, it could be fun fiction.
@viviantompkins7925
@viviantompkins7925 7 ай бұрын
“It doesn’t make the song good if it gets stuck in your head” The clearest evidence of this for me is that “Toxic Gossip Train” gets stuck in my head so easily
@vanessawalker6666
@vanessawalker6666 7 ай бұрын
I think about that song every few days and I hate that lol
@anglepsycho
@anglepsycho 7 ай бұрын
​@@vanessawalker6666Toxic Gossip Train? Is that the one from the female child rapist?
@jommisalami
@jommisalami 6 ай бұрын
"The rumors look like facts if you don't mind the gaps" No way I should remember that after hearing it twice from a couple of memes
@ggundercover3681
@ggundercover3681 6 ай бұрын
​@@jommisalami"I'm not a groomer, just a loser"
@georgehenry1104
@georgehenry1104 6 ай бұрын
@@vanessawalker6666how’re you doin three weeks later
@masterplusmargarita
@masterplusmargarita 4 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of vtubers, and a big part of the fun of that fandom is treating them like they're real. Breaking kayfabe in vtuber chats and comment sections is pretty taboo, and it's really entertaining to collectively act like these are actual anime girls. It's silly, but it makes me happy, and that's all I want out of it. The difference is that when I say something like "Man, Ceres Fauna's really funny!" I'm not actually talking about Fauna, I'm talking about the performer who's playing Fauna. Fauna's just a 3d model, she's not funny, she doesn't have a personality - there's a talented woman behind that. If that person got fired tomorrow and was replaced by a different performer with the same model, I wouldn't keep watching Fauna, I'd go seek out whatever her performer was doing, because that's the reason I'm actually watching. The character's incidental. This is an attempt to get rid of the person, to make the character the center, and it just can't work. People don't care about a personality with no personality. Feeling the presence of a human, even if hidden behind several layers of CG and kayfabe, is what makes this stuff worthwhile. This is if a vtuber was just a 3d model sitting there. No one wants this.
@croaklikeatoad4384
@croaklikeatoad4384 7 ай бұрын
Why’d they make Noonouri a “teenager” then dress her like that?? It’s still creepy if she isn’t real, it’s almost worse because it’s adults puppeteering a half naked doll child
@A.N._ONyme
@A.N._ONyme 7 ай бұрын
I think that when LeChat was made by the most uncreative people on the planet all they could think to name their catgirl was "cat but woman" but they couldn't reasonably call her "pussy" so they switched it to french, realized that "chatte" has the exact same issue, could no be bothered to look for an alternative and just went with the masculine. And voilà they named their virtual egirl the same as famous french laundry detergent brand Le Chat
@camille8231
@camille8231 7 ай бұрын
Fuck I didn't think of that, it's been a while since i heard the brand Lechat. I would have been funny if they didn't check and wanted a "classy" feeling for switching to french and named her "La chatte" french Twitter would be having a blast 😭
@wrightcember
@wrightcember 6 ай бұрын
@@camille8231to be fair, the french love that shit, but hot damn would it be awkward lmao
@baintreachas
@baintreachas 6 ай бұрын
literally could've just called her "la gata" which... ok CAN be used like "hottie" but not necessarily, and never "pussy"
@sylv256
@sylv256 6 ай бұрын
@@camille8231LMAO would’ve been funny as shit i’m a french student but i’ve done research on my free time about why we don’t use « la chatte »
@rayveewrites6268
@rayveewrites6268 7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure "an artificial character with a human soul" is the plot to multiple horror stories.
@anglepsycho
@anglepsycho 7 ай бұрын
Megaman did so much better. Fuck this Nonoori character, throw in Alia or Layer and bam. Money, good bodies, and especially good character plots.
@rafaelmarkos4489
@rafaelmarkos4489 4 ай бұрын
Multiple SCPs are basically this
@theReincarnate
@theReincarnate 3 ай бұрын
Also the plot of fnaf
@sydneykochan2388
@sydneykochan2388 7 ай бұрын
i came across this semi-virtual group called plave and at first i thought it was one of those completely fake animated character bands but apparently they’re real guys (and all of them are great singers) and they wear those suits that track your movement and they do activities real time so you’re seeing these anime characters that are making totally natural human movements and it was craaazyyyyy
@ObsidianNebula00
@ObsidianNebula00 7 ай бұрын
I love how every time one of these comes out we get all these "is this the future of music?" articles, as though it's brand new and not something that's already failed to catch on several times before
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 6 ай бұрын
Miku was created 15+ years ago and Gorillaz is even older, so all the articles acting like these virtual influencers are a completely new thing instead of shameless copies of better things is wild
@Scrimmified
@Scrimmified 7 ай бұрын
It really astounds me how BAD all these ai influencers look. There's so many independent vtubers with 3d models they commissioned off twitter and tracking software they learned how to use off free youtube tutorials and the movement comes out way smoother than this. Teenagers were learning how to rig and animate character mmd dance videos a decade ago. I guess it's because they couldn't hire anyone worth their salt in the industry for such a stupid bullshit project.
@bedi3983
@bedi3983 7 ай бұрын
they werent willing to pay anyone worth their salt
@mundanepants
@mundanepants 7 ай бұрын
​@@bedi3983what kills me though is that they were willing to pay tech bros probably entirely too much for what the end product is actually worth. But they aren't willing to pay artists for something that's actually valuable and good.
@swordkitty
@swordkitty 7 ай бұрын
LeChat looks like a worse version of Talking Angela tbh
@brook_angel
@brook_angel 7 ай бұрын
​@@ville__thanks for the free report ❤
@overevaluated
@overevaluated 7 ай бұрын
@@ville__ EVERYBODY STOP MAKING FUN OF THEM WE GOT A WARNING
@kaylynvandermerwe
@kaylynvandermerwe 7 ай бұрын
I'm so worried these "AI artists" are young-coded or straight up called a teenager and is actually being controlled by an adult, just think about how many human influencer take advantage of and groom their very young fans, this is just another gateway for that especially with far less accountability because there's no obvious face or person tied to it
@jaokeki
@jaokeki 7 ай бұрын
I agree, it's super icky. It's like new wave pedophilia
@blondbraid7986
@blondbraid7986 7 ай бұрын
@@jaokeki Exactly, and it's made worse when they try to treat their characters like real people and give the illusion that it's a person who chose to dress and pose sexy for themselves and not a waifu designed by and for creepy middle-aged men.
@Quaila
@Quaila 7 ай бұрын
YES it's extremely troubling, normalizing a very exploitative model of behavior for young people to expect from adults!
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 7 ай бұрын
“Young-coded” 💀
@grrbarking
@grrbarking 6 ай бұрын
@@DeathnoteBB RIGHT lmao I had to reread this comment. I hate how tiktok has ruined so much important terminology
@noobbrosif
@noobbrosif 6 ай бұрын
It’s so funny that the “bad fake French accent that everybody will make fun of you for” ended up pronouncing Lechat correctly and I think that really says something about the French language
@Lauren-nf9fm
@Lauren-nf9fm 7 ай бұрын
It's weird that they keep framing these characters as both teenage girls with lives and interests, but also as a product for humans to "use" (and even make the characters describe themselves that way). Compare/contrast with Hatsune Miku always being framed as just a fun little guy who lives in your computer.
@axuwu6939
@axuwu6939 7 ай бұрын
As a vocaloid fan, these virtual influencers make part of my soul evaporate every time I see them Like, this is the exact opposite of everything vocaloid is and represents. Vocaloid is about increasing potential for human creativity! It enhances the human part! And these virtual influencers? It erases EVERYTHING that makes creativity creative, it takes all the humanity and soul out of it, it turns art into nothing more than a product for the sake of getting money. I hope they never succeed because I don’t want to live in a world where art exists only for the profits, not for the fact that it’s an inherent part of the human soul to enjoy creating and creations
@Vampress09
@Vampress09 7 ай бұрын
How does vocaloid enhances the human aspect? I know nothing about them so I am intrigued.
@Red-jl1qr
@Red-jl1qr 7 ай бұрын
​@@Vampress09 That's what I'm wondering, like no one acknowledges the humans behind vocaloid. This is just vocaloid but without the well designed characters and banger music
@spontaneouslycombusted7664
@spontaneouslycombusted7664 7 ай бұрын
​@Vampress0923 vocaloid is a voice synthesizer most popular for the hatsune miku voicebank, anyone can use it to make music so, its very human in that actual people write the music and its not a huge company trying to make money, its millions of people using it to make their own original songs (sorry if my description's kinda weird)
@Red-jl1qr
@Red-jl1qr 7 ай бұрын
@@spontaneouslycombusted7664 ok, so it's not ai or anything, it's a whole different thing
@6Shots_ofEspresso
@6Shots_ofEspresso 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@spontaneouslycombusted7664that and i feel like the fact that miku changes with each song she sings is similar to how real people experience different emotions. shes not just constantly happy or sad or longing, her personality is fluid
@aviothic.
@aviothic. 7 ай бұрын
As someone who’s french Canadian, hearing the way Jarvis pronounces “LeChat” like that might be the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. I’m also a little confused as to why her name is “LeChat” instead of “LaChatte” considering she is female, but maybe there’s an explanation? 😭
@ftseo
@ftseo 7 ай бұрын
une chatte is slang for a vagina in some french speaking countries.
@1e1001
@1e1001 7 ай бұрын
was wondering the same thing, my guess is it either makes it more "obviously french" or like easier to pronounce for not french people (nice one)
@EclipseINF
@EclipseINF 7 ай бұрын
there is an explanation, they are putting in minimal effort to get quick cash
@Rictavio27
@Rictavio27 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@Blissful_Melody
@Blissful_Melody 7 ай бұрын
my only suggestion is a non french speakers named her who dont get the concept of fem and masc pronouns on anything that isnt a human being. my other guess is they saw something like chat noir and figured oh... chat means cat !!!
@Gloom-Rot
@Gloom-Rot 7 ай бұрын
The visual of having a semi-realistic body with mocap animation then this giant cartoonist bobble head with no refined detail, expression or features is just bizarre...
@luckfoser
@luckfoser 7 ай бұрын
another thing about virtual influencers is that virtual characters (admittedly thinking about vocaloid, but also gorillaz and stuff) are both like extremely high quality and successful in a largely handmade way that requires a lot of labor and love
@TheOffensiveSenses
@TheOffensiveSenses 7 ай бұрын
I think the voice isn't pure AI voice, but an AI voice filter and the guy's own accent is coming through. This feels a lot more like the kind of artifacts you get from a filter than it does from purely generated voice. I'm more concerned about why she sounds sad all the time. When she says "I am made by humans for humans" she sounds like she's being imprisoned with the sole purpose of giving people pleasure in a Black Mirror type situation.
@wendyheatherwood
@wendyheatherwood 7 ай бұрын
I was wondering why the accent was shifting like that, because I've never heard an AI voice with such an inconsistent accent before. A filter does make more sense.
@dand1253
@dand1253 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, real... _ANATOMY_ vibes. An inanimate structure cursed with a pallid shadow-life by humanity.
@mellow_mallow
@mellow_mallow 7 ай бұрын
Not only does she _sound_ sad, she also kind of _looks_ sad, just because of the way they sculpted her face I think? It's a great package deal
@guhraysee
@guhraysee 7 ай бұрын
yeah it just sounds like they’ve used auto tune on a guy’s actual real voice to sound like a girl 🥴 ick
@0.-.0
@0.-.0 7 ай бұрын
It's not one guy behind the whole thing lol. They say in the video that that is a filter on a real human voice, tho. She sounds sad all the time because that's how they made her sound, though... that's how art works.
@mothmansuperfan7513
@mothmansuperfan7513 7 ай бұрын
Gorillaz did the virtual band thing much better than these half-hearted cash grabs could ever go
@juderiley2248
@juderiley2248 7 ай бұрын
Right??? Also the article claims Noonori is Warner's first not real artist, but that's not true?? Didn't they sign Gorillaz at some point?
@fantasia3974
@fantasia3974 7 ай бұрын
Exactly 😭
@shutupsoph528
@shutupsoph528 7 ай бұрын
YESSS😭
@DongerDayz
@DongerDayz 7 ай бұрын
Gorillaz doesn't make money though.
@ennuibarbie
@ennuibarbie 7 ай бұрын
@@DongerDayz Uh No lmao? They make millions.
@tundranone8366
@tundranone8366 7 ай бұрын
Can we please talk a lot more as a society about how all this lame crap they're pretending is AI isn't even AI? When actual artificial intelligence drops, you'll KNOW. This crap is just machine learning. It's been around for a long time. It's taken a big step forward, but that's it. It's not AI. They just wanted to call it that because it sounds cool, and EVERYONE went for it, thereby ruining our chance to differentiate actual AI when it comes out. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
@spinecho609
@spinecho609 6 ай бұрын
Yep, it's not AI. But it's also not Machine Learning either it's humans writing and doing mocap!
@Impiness
@Impiness 7 ай бұрын
It's like they took Cherry from the Studio Killers and stripped off all the personality from her, then gave her the blandest wardrobe known to Man (⁠─⁠.⁠─⁠|⁠|⁠) The reason these virtual influencers fail is they're made to be appealing to as many people as possible, and thus appeal to almost no one. They have no real character or personality to latch onto. Just an amalgamation of various popular, pleasant traits and interests. Compare this Murdoc from The Gorillaz. Murdoc is as far from marketable as you could possibly be. He's a chain-smoking horndog with terrible hygiene. He's selfish, greedy, and a literal demon-worshipper. Yet, people love him. He's got tons of fans. He feels like a real person and not the product of a focus group.
@morganorwhatever
@morganorwhatever 7 ай бұрын
Also Murdoc wasn’t made intentionally sexy to make money for Gorillaz. These virtual influencers, mainly the female ones, are obviously honeypots
@Impiness
@Impiness 7 ай бұрын
@@morganorwhatever What!? Have you not seen that Motorola ad or Rock Tha House mv? That man *obviously* is a Honeypot lol
@morganorwhatever
@morganorwhatever 7 ай бұрын
Fair enough lol. Although I’d still argue that’s far from the main appeal of Gorillaz, especially since in universe, Murdoc is the band leader. Of course he’s going to put himself front and centre most of the time
@PepperIsSalty
@PepperIsSalty 7 ай бұрын
The thing is, with Gorillaz they play into the fact that the band isn't real and the members are fleshed out. These influencers that they're trying to make lack self-awareness, and they're trying to rely on looks instead of world building. The people behind things like Noonoouri don't seem to get that this isn't the best way to go with this kinda thing, or they're too money hungry to care.
@imanijohnson1340
@imanijohnson1340 7 ай бұрын
He feels like a CHARACTER not a real person dear god I’d hate if he was real 🤣
@lennon6582
@lennon6582 7 ай бұрын
Shocker these middle aged dudes chose to pose a teenage character provocatively in a revealing swimsuit.
@deconyus3412
@deconyus3412 7 ай бұрын
A.I. in this context should stand for Artificial Influencer.
@cyro6900
@cyro6900 6 ай бұрын
they dont know the power of hatsune miku
@trashkuun
@trashkuun 7 ай бұрын
Studio Killers is a great example of good virtual CGI styled music videos and design. The thing is there are REAL PEOPLE behind those characters.
@Charuchii
@Charuchii 7 ай бұрын
Speaking of Studio Killers, Noonouri is definitely based on Cherry. The voice and look is ripped straight off. I feel a lot of the visual style is just ripped from Studio Killers and just turned into full 3D
@oddlem
@oddlem 7 ай бұрын
I was gonna say the exact same thing!! I have no idea why these dudes don't take the same direction, studio killers put heart in their music/characters and it shows
@cassafrassarole
@cassafrassarole 7 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I came to chat to look for as soon as I saw and heard her@@Charuchii
@nikpltnk
@nikpltnk 7 ай бұрын
yesss i thought abt them iimmediately lol she's clearly a ripoff of cherry and they also seem to be trying to copy their music's style as well
@gwennorthcutt421
@gwennorthcutt421 7 ай бұрын
as soon as i heard her voice with the vocal fry i was like oh, this is the cherry studio killers we have at home :/
@Phosypha
@Phosypha 7 ай бұрын
I can't believe they managed to make an AI generated voice that sounds like it smokes a pack a day! The innovation in this sector is POPPING OFF!!!!!
@Jacob-Sophia
@Jacob-Sophia 7 ай бұрын
And sounds like a mix between a Japanese accent, and Icelandic accent, and a slurring concussion.
@qyvoz
@qyvoz 7 ай бұрын
As a massive vocaloid fan everything about these "virtual AI influencers" is just so. Frustrating to me. The thing that's really killing me here is how in the vogue article talking about Noonoouri, the way they talk about making her voice sounds almost like the process of making a vocalsynth voicebank. It's kinda feels like they're trying to make their own vocalsynth software, and act like it's this ~crazy new thing~ that's never been done before when the first vocaloids were released in 2004. And those voicebanks still hold up to this day. I could probably rant about why vocaloid and vocasynths in general are better in every way forever tbh.
@opheliasgh0st
@opheliasgh0st 7 ай бұрын
We’re slowly being deconditioned to be okay with AI generated garbage like switching a dog from an old food to a new food by slowly mixing the old with the new food in the bowl. You can tell thats what they’re doing because they keep trying REALLY hard to reiterate the fact that “at least this part was made by a human”. It’s unsettling, creepy, and overall just objectively not good or entertaining. People need to stop trying to replace artists (and other jobs) with computers and people need to stop just being okay with it.
@ghosty5417
@ghosty5417 7 ай бұрын
As a visual artist being threatened by generative AI, I appreciate Jarvis talking about this. It's really taken a toll on me recently and this was really a breath of fresh air, thanks for genuinely criticizing these practices in front of a bigger audience and spreading awareness.
@mellow_mallow
@mellow_mallow 7 ай бұрын
Haven't got there in the video yet, but I'm glad he's on our side. It honestly doesn't feel to me like what they've made is even AI- it's not any more intelligent than those pigeons that learn to press buttons. It's like a blender that just spins until the result is good enough. Sorry I'm kinda salty at ai lol
@AzureRT456
@AzureRT456 7 ай бұрын
There's still people out there who enjoy actual art being made, so don't worry about AI shit and just focus on what you love to do. AI-generated content won't replace human-created content that's for sure
@ciciamanda.
@ciciamanda. 7 ай бұрын
@@AzureRT456 even if it won't entirely replace human made art it is a rather serious copyright infringement issue that isn't being taken as seriously as it should. Luckily there are some large steps being taken, like the lawsuit against OpenAI by a group of authors, including George RR Martin.* It's also worth mentioning that a lot of jobs in art are definitely at risk, such as graphic design. Why, as a huge company, would you pay for a logo when AI can generate one? it's a slippery slope *(part of the lawsuit states "At the heart of these algorithms is systemic theft on a massive scale" which i think sums it up pretty well. The OpenAI side claims that the generated content is inherently transformative and therefore fair use)
@berkeleyisonline160
@berkeleyisonline160 7 ай бұрын
​@@ciciamanda.u can dislike ai but stricter copyright laws won't fix the issue. and i think ppl assume that "ai = bad" is the end of the argument when it's just a tool. the ppl trying to take advantage of it to screw people over are the problem
@chuckmcluckin6082
@chuckmcluckin6082 7 ай бұрын
​@@berkeleyisonline160Then what's the solution, smart guy?
@kel.sharpe
@kel.sharpe 7 ай бұрын
Ew I hate this so much. I recently saw one of these virtual influencers promoting a fashion brand and they were "modeling" with actual human beings wearing the same clothes :/
@LethalLemonLime
@LethalLemonLime 7 ай бұрын
​@@ville__reported
@dampsocc
@dampsocc 7 ай бұрын
​@@ville__ yo what
@InsecurArties
@InsecurArties Ай бұрын
whatd they say?​@@LethalLemonLime
@InsecurArties
@InsecurArties Ай бұрын
​@@dampsoccWhatd they say?
@1k4zr
@1k4zr 29 күн бұрын
​@InsecurArties press ville's @ and js look at the stuff they've got on community tab 💀
@ep1csw4g
@ep1csw4g 6 ай бұрын
there's this virtual kpop boy group called PLAVE and i think they're the closest to what a future with virtual music artists could be like and it's funny because there are still real people behind the members at the end of the day i think companies need to realize no one actually wants "ai" musicians 😭
@multinsomnia5455
@multinsomnia5455 6 ай бұрын
I love PLAVE!!!
@MrToasty9000
@MrToasty9000 7 ай бұрын
this reminds me of the last time i watched a fnaf security breach let's play, when i made the observation that the way the animatronics were kept in glass display cases and only let out to sing and dance and sign autographs was like a music label's wet dream. they would LOVE to fully replace human musicians with robots that never need to eat or sleep or be paid fairly.
@oliverpalomera9657
@oliverpalomera9657 7 ай бұрын
One of the things I really like about Hatsune Miku is the fact that the community is the one that writes a story for her. She doesn't have a background, we're the ones that create one for her and I think that shows the humanity behind all of her character.
@pinkdarkboy7127
@pinkdarkboy7127 6 ай бұрын
Yes I love that the artist's own self comes through with Miku. Like, Rolling Girl Miku is a completely different character from World is Mine Miku and that's completely fine because she's an instrument that allows those artists to create music. There's no pretend characterization with Miku. We all understand she's a blank slate who can represent anyone.
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 6 ай бұрын
That's why there's no Vocaloid anime, they don't want to give her an official personality so fans can imagine her as whatever they want her to be
@liananoelle
@liananoelle 7 ай бұрын
jarvis is slowly but surely migrating to the metaverse
@hell0mega
@hell0mega 7 ай бұрын
honestly this stuff actually makes me feel better about being a vtuber lol. i do love the idea of virtual people, ive always loved like Gorillaz and Miku and Studio Killers, but it's almost becoming a niche to be a real and creative virtual character. im sure there are hundreds of people who could sign these contracts and make these companies lots of money but they don't trust individual creatives
@user-rx8mr4hb2r
@user-rx8mr4hb2r 4 ай бұрын
I'm a sex worker and everybody thinks that VR and AI is going to replace cam girls but you can't replace human attention. I'm starting to create custom fantasy character experiences w clients and they seem to really like it bc it's both the imagination and the real world interaction. I think we are underestimating how much we could improve on what AI may do more efficiently but never with that human touch we ultimately will always crave no matter how hard we try to run into AI planet.
@danielomar9712
@danielomar9712 6 ай бұрын
Even the models feel so souless , it has the corporate flavour to it
@googleoogle
@googleoogle 7 ай бұрын
I think the worst thing is how much they WANT to minimize the presence of human involvement. Like obviously there has to be human involvement at every stage of development and production of these "influencers" but we are all supposed to pretend that there isn't. I feel like the vocaloid that people enjoy is where the people behind it are emphasized.
@yann6109
@yann6109 7 ай бұрын
I love how those AI creatures are shown as something revolutionary and better than real, human artists, meanwhile they need the whole crew of musicians, dancers, animators, designers etc. to work in any way
@ChristopherSadlowski
@ChristopherSadlowski 6 ай бұрын
Right!? It either costs just as much, or more than, hiring a human singer. Just hire a singer and you don't have to jump through all these stupid hoops. Hell, hire a singer who also knows music theory and you can pump out tons of songs faster and easier! I hate this planet sometimes.
@redfrog1628
@redfrog1628 7 ай бұрын
That part in the end you're talking about is 100% correct. The sad part is a LOT of people think if you post your art on the internet, then other people are allowed to steal it and make profit. I personally might not ever sell my art until like it gets really good, but I know a lot of other artists' jobs and livelihoods are gonna be affected and I hate it. Also, if an artist is reading this and you do digital art, look up glazing. I think that's what it's called, it's to help fight against our art being used for training data.
@onyxtay7246
@onyxtay7246 6 ай бұрын
There are some fantastic artists out there who can make a computer generated voice sound like it's almost human. It takes a lot of skill. But these companies don't want to pay people like that, because artists actually care about the shit they create.
@tibbytobby
@tibbytobby 7 ай бұрын
i can’t wait for jarvis to become a virtual influencer
@trashrat9365
@trashrat9365 7 ай бұрын
omg me neither @jarvis make this happen
@toastonmitchell2636
@toastonmitchell2636 7 ай бұрын
JARV-AI
@leiathrix
@leiathrix 7 ай бұрын
Man virtual influencers getting souls left and right, I wish I had one too
@iamjustkiwi
@iamjustkiwi 7 ай бұрын
Hard to get one when all the influencers are claiming them for themselves 😤
@sillyguy_5559
@sillyguy_5559 7 ай бұрын
I had like four, they were stolen by the AI influencers I now have zero and am a flower
@Stzrzr
@Stzrzr 7 ай бұрын
Same
@gremlinwc8996
@gremlinwc8996 7 ай бұрын
It's a real good time for people to sell their souls to devils, the devils take those souls and sell them to virtual influencers and along the way people who sell their souls like me get a pretty penny for it.
@o0Scarrow0o
@o0Scarrow0o 7 ай бұрын
As a redhead I can only steal the souls of others to try and fill the void but I can dream of having my own
@PokeRedstone
@PokeRedstone 7 ай бұрын
They can’t just keep reinventing miku hastune and insisting they did it first.
@tsktsk1119
@tsktsk1119 7 ай бұрын
It's interesting because I think a lot of the virtual popstar are meant to be emulating Hatsune Miku but the people behind these virtual idols don't understand that the reason it worked so well is that she didn't exist outside of the art that was produced with her voice - and also it is used in so many different ways in so many different styles by small and big artists alike. Idk it seems like to me people see the popularity of that and go "that would make us a ton of money!" without understanding the concept of it whatsoever
@415-k1ub
@415-k1ub 7 ай бұрын
In Nounouri's case, it's fine if the team behind her wants to be transparent, since these "AI" artists tend to hide the existence of their team and try way too hard to pretend that the "AI" is doing everything. However, the team have to be properly credited instead of just appearing as nameless staff in a behind-the-scenes video. What these corporate suits don't understand about the virtual idol scene is that loyal fans do care about the humans behind it and will follow their favourite human music producers, illustrators, cover artists and other creators within the community. Honestly, I would've been more interested in Nounouri if her team didn't make their sexualised idol a teenager. It pretty much shows that they only care about generating maximum profit.
@vulpesrocktails918
@vulpesrocktails918 6 ай бұрын
Right? Like- I'm not a fan of any Vocaloids, I'm a fan of the real people who use their voicebanks.
@ShockedLogic
@ShockedLogic 7 ай бұрын
theese corporations really did just completely miss the different appeals of Miku and Gorillaz and just saw "cartoon singer = money" and not the massive community vibe of Vocaloid or story telling music videos of Gorillaz
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 7 ай бұрын
It's like they looked at Gorillaz and Dethklok and went, "Oh sure, we can make that!" and completely missed the point that there's a human element behind both bands that makes them more than just an algorithm designed to make a ton of money.
@artsyblkkid
@artsyblkkid 7 ай бұрын
as a French speaker, Jarvis is 100% saying it right every time
@JuniperJadePR
@JuniperJadePR 7 ай бұрын
The first time I heard of Noouri was in a local newspaper's paid puff piece. It's hilarious how companies claim that they can't afford to pay their employees proper wages/benefits but throw money at this garbage.
@Zoemi_.l
@Zoemi_.l 7 ай бұрын
It's funny to see how Noonoouri makes compliments about the people behind the project, when it's someone who doesn't exist and the compliments are made by the same people behind the project. Literally a pat on the back for themselves.
@izzywolfe3316
@izzywolfe3316 7 ай бұрын
The pictures of the guys with the ai girl just looks like those pics where weebs would photoshop in their anime waifu or favorite pony from mlp and then caption it as if they're pictures with their girlfriends
@AlexDayz
@AlexDayz 7 ай бұрын
AI has just become a buzzword. Warner already has “virtual influencers” in the form of Gorillaz which has real people behind it and it seems they desperately want to recreate that. Also the way they describe how Noonuri’s voice works just sounds like a voice bank similar to Hatsune Miku and other Vocaloids which are 100x better
@TannerOfTheNorth
@TannerOfTheNorth 7 ай бұрын
The thing with the AI sounding bad is that it VERY clearly is using a Laura Bailey (Rise, Persona 4) voice bank, which she has gone on record saying she does NOT CONDONE and does not want to be used. It sounds exactly like Laura Bailey with a slight accent twang added.
@sonderfulsable
@sonderfulsable 7 ай бұрын
virtual influencers peaked at hatsune miku, its only been downhill from there
@mctripleA
@mctripleA 7 ай бұрын
And it wasn't even miku, It was the real people editing her voice bank
@Emma-Lumi
@Emma-Lumi 7 ай бұрын
we already have the absolute best virtual idol, we have for years and years, Hatsune Miku
@kaibruh9985
@kaibruh9985 7 ай бұрын
its crazy that "virtual influencers" are so different from "virtual youtubers"
@rileyray1207
@rileyray1207 7 ай бұрын
I start to jump and run around with glee whenever jarvis posts
@rayzirl
@rayzirl 7 ай бұрын
u r so real i do the same
@hydromic2518
@hydromic2518 7 ай бұрын
Best thing to do!
@raynb0w6
@raynb0w6 7 ай бұрын
real af
@rayzirl
@rayzirl 7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-zp3kx what the fuck
@hoodie_gang563
@hoodie_gang563 7 ай бұрын
i loved the part where jarvis said “its goldin time” and johnsoned all over the video
@iamjustkiwi
@iamjustkiwi 7 ай бұрын
Be careful if you Johnson somewhere you work or you might get called into HR...
@TrafficPartyHatTest
@TrafficPartyHatTest 7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he johnsones us for free
@ellafreya_29
@ellafreya_29 7 ай бұрын
I like how they market these singers like they are the first kpop virtual idols like there aren't multiple already that at least involve a few ai members or aspects (aespa, mave, plave)
@LuciesCafe
@LuciesCafe 7 ай бұрын
Companies are trying so hard to make virtual singers work when they literally have Vocaloid right in their hands😭😭😭
@theox8313
@theox8313 7 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with virtual singers and virtual influencers, the ones with actual living breathing human beings behind it who genuinely loves doing what they do, the problem with these virtual influencers is that it's some soulless company with nothing but money signs in their eyes. On one hand I do hope the technology gets better so virtual singers can have more ways to express themselves and then at the same time I don't because of the consequences that would come from it due to corrupt corporations
@annikaolsonvlogs
@annikaolsonvlogs 7 ай бұрын
The way Barbie’s been taking advantage of this concept for YEARS
@imright77
@imright77 7 ай бұрын
I think the creators of yameii online (oseanworld and deko) do a really good job with her as a virtual singer/rapper. she's not a real person, she's not voiced by a real person, and her music is kinda in line with the oseanworld universe. she even has fictional friends that sometime are featured (there are also times when deko himself is featured). the only problem I have with her is that english vocaloid can be a bit hard to understand.
@finchfull
@finchfull 7 ай бұрын
i love your videos so much jarvis. they honestly make me feel more normal for thinking these things are insane 😭 also the "soomsoomzip" bit had me laughing, that was so funny
@BigSisterNeko
@BigSisterNeko 7 ай бұрын
The crazy thing is Hastune Miku did all this and MORE. Like she was on the Dave Letterman show in 2014! It’s like they missed the point of Miku and Vocaloids. This will never succeed and I want these companies to burn millions 😂🤣😂🤣
@strawbuniies
@strawbuniies 7 ай бұрын
This is all just so fascinating. Virtual artists HAVE existed but trying to make one just to hop on that cashflow train is so ?? Miku's popularity rose from the ability to make music in a voice that wasn't your own, but Miku's; a voice synthesizer. So many people embraced and delved into that form of creation that she's become this presence and an idol for creativity. The magic behind her is that she's a love letter from various musicians and a means of self-expression ( look at the Pokemon collab she has right now! ) whereas Noonoouri is created with the intent to profit from what's big.- vocaloid, v-tubers, etc. It's wild that the magic behind it all was so willingly dropped to promote this character 😭
@MizuhimeLee
@MizuhimeLee 6 ай бұрын
I love how the articles are like treating the hunk of code made by greedy old men like a real person, be you look at pictures of it and it looks like a melted Barbie doll.... Like this whole video about how these men "with all their creativity" made this fake person and dudes couldn't even be bothered to competently 3D model something that even looks like a person
@fnamelname8906
@fnamelname8906 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: Warner Music Group rejected Linkin Park three times. They accepted this AI. Just take the time to fully grasp that concept. The artists who created one of under a hundred albums to go diamond had a harder time getting signed than a corporation and AI.
@wrendoesnothing
@wrendoesnothing 7 ай бұрын
this article: this VR 'artist' loves keeping her apartment clean me, an actual human with ADHD and depression, struggling to keep my trailer clean and suffering the mental health effects: 😐😐
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