Virtual Influencers Are Out of Hand

[@the20somethingGrandma]

Noonouri sounds like they wanted her to have a European accent but they couldn't decide what country they wanted her to be from so they just did all of them

[@NinjaPiParadox]

It sounds like an intentionally unflattering impression of what middle aged dudes think young pop stars sound like. Its so bad it almost feels like a joke.

[@BabyChao]

She sounds and reminds me alot of Cherry from Studio Killers but creepy... I don't like it 😱

[@_Funaroma]

@@BabyChaothey definitely took “inspiration” from her

[@thebigdork8030]

Euro vision's chosen one

[@LuchaLLibro]

That's gotta be what's happening under the surface: It's mashing all of its vocal samples it's accumulated from god knows how many people together *simultaneously* to try and create a vocal identity. But because a jack of all trades is a master of none, they AUDIBLY conflict, they have combined to create a voice that is less than the sum of its parts, and so it tumbles end-over-end directly into the uncanny valley. We are dumping entire moon landings' worth of computer calculations and energy consumption on weird CGI women to sussurate 3'10" nonsense songs at us in accents from countries that don't exist.

[@punxsutawneyphilofficial]

Noonouri being a "teenage influencer" with a younger body type and sexualized outfits run by grown-ass men gives me a real ick

[@sunshineflicker6120]

VERY THIS! They just want an excuse to make digital models of children wearing "sexy" costumes and doing dances. It's gross not artistic in any way

[@aldranzam3456]

"a woman we can finally have complete control over!!" It's a creep's fantasy.

[@jinx7641]

​@ville__ who cares

[@masterace9543]

​@ville__ur just as sick

[@juicymilk69]

​@@OfficerZlockdoubt

[@TheJeannag]

The fact that we had Vocaloids decades ago that looked better, had decent animation, and had banger tunes (that I still sometimes find myself singing) - and yet a company in this day and age cannot create something better is wild

[@-_CaM_-]

+ vocaloids song are made by the community itself (since people can buy the voicebank and use them) And the fact that a community can make better stuff than those Company (for exemple animation, models,...) make me laugh so hard

[@TheJeannag]

@@-_CaM_- Right?! It's like how fan edits, fan art, and fan animations continue to be better than some of the stuff we see on screen X'D

[@-_CaM_-]

@@TheJeannag that's true ngl X)

[@anglepsycho]

And one of them got remade and looks almost definitely human. Teto, that is, she looks stunning now and is no longer a shitpost of a joke.

[@tomoritakamatsu]

even some of the lowest quality utau voicebanks would appeal to me more than whatever these ai singers are😭

[@inrodu_1027]

the fact that noonoowhatever is specifically made to be a TEEN influencer, but those bearded, full grown men are specifically **choosing** to give her sexy outfits...not even virtual teen girls are safe from being sexualized by adults

[@Naokarma]

I like how you say "not even virtual teen girls are safe" as if they're not by far the most likely to be sexualized by adults.

[@konamiku58]

virtual teen girls are the least safe unfortunately

[@emofried]

⁠@@konamiku58i think women irl are the least safe from sexualization

[@bethanychatman9531]

​@@Naokarmanah, real life girls and women are sexualized more and can actually be gurt because they're people.

[@coreycarries]

Okay but they don’t exist? They’re not real? They are indeed the men behind them?

[@megabyte1302]

Bruh how did they make a fake robot barely legal and STILL sexualize it??? The only good thing that'll come out of this is imagining one of those dudes having to perform the provocative dances and poses in full motion capture in front of his buddies.

[@jeffgoldblum7214]

I hate that these 'AI' 'influencers' are made to look like young people and have aspirational backstories meanwhile the companies behind them are shutting doors to millions of young people trying to break into the industry. They're actually just stealing an image and kicking people to the kerb

[@jeffgoldblum7214]

Especially when they appropriate from black young people like with FN Meka meanwhile these corporations are still 90% white

[@RealElongatedMuskrat]

that's a good point actually. It's so gross.

[@TGVBT640]

very good point my guy

[@sylv512]

welcome to the crushing ennui of late-stage capitalism!

[@ona512]

I think this is what we should see as wrong here. I see too many comments focusing on the fact that the character is young and everyone who is making her is old and that's creepy somehow, God forbid humans age. No, I think we should realize these people who have funds to hire a team are keeping people with no money who are real and young from the industry by making perma-young artists who can make algo-music forever.

[@marqkc]

Artists don't want this, writers don't want this, actors don't want this, and consumers don't want this. The only people in support of blatant cash grabs are the companies behind them and the dumb fools that got played by them.

[@jaokeki]

And the weird old dudes with fetishes for controlling said (teenaged) virtual influencers. ick

[@izzz222]

@@jaokekii love ur pfp

[@enskii26]

I feel like this is for kids, right? If these guys take out Kidz Bop, idgaf. Still weird though

[@jaokeki]

​@@izzz222 thank you!

[@Chinothebad]

Don't forget the dumb fools who like to keep saying this is the future and how nothing will stop it.

[@bethabugaboo]

I think its important that the concept of virtual artists can be done correctly, just not like this. I think the best example is Gorillaz. The "Band" is completely fictional, but they have real people behind it. They have a singer/songwriter and an animator. No one is losing jobs over this virtual band , but the ideas and vision can still be expressed.

[@TheDJBunch]

Hey, random question but do you know the name of the song Jarvis is using in the background of the ad read he does?

[@scaredgirlplaysfnaf]

There’s a group with the same virtual artist concept, studio killers, which Nonoorui (or however u spell it- I really do not care lol) seems to be HIGHLY influenced by. The aesthetic, the voice, the character herself, the instrumental. It’s all there.

[@yrfavtina]

@@TheDJBunch I got you man it’s Canals by Joakim Karud

[@eggyonline5308]

@@scaredgirlplaysfnaf​I’m so glad someone else said this I thought I was losing it 😭 like is dominos not just straight up ripping off ode to the bouncer by studio killers ???

[@Dahk]

Nothing will ever top Yameii

[@foxgender]

I find it really interesting how virtual influencers are considered so creepy or weird or dystopian, when we've had other examples like Hatsune Miku and Gorillaz for so long. I think the difference between these two and the rest is that there's inherent humanness behind them; versus how Noonunori and Lechat are so, so, corporate feeling. You can't see any thoughts or feelings or intent behind them other than profit. Hatsune Miku is a vocaloid program, which makes her essentially an instrument, and that leaves a ton of opportunity for emotion to be behind the music you create with her. I know a lot less about Gorillaz, but to my knowledge they're essentially just mascots, with real people behind them?idk, if someone with more knowledge could reply to this that'd be awesome! My point is ... the lack of humanness seems to be what makes these virtual influencers so weird. Uncanny valley, almost.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

The Gorillaz characters are not just mascots, they're characters with backstories and personalities. Trust me, the lore is insane

[@Maukiki2]

@@sophitiaofhyrulemurdoc makes door pregnant by humping it

[@buupy]

whit Gorillaz, like the reply above, they are not just a mascot of the band, they are portrait as the band in its entirely, each one has a name and their own personality and backstory and how they got to the band they also have their own relationship whit themselves and the creators always show us those dynamics in video clips (and they used to have cartoon shorts years ago), so they aren't just there and existing in the same place to be a visual for the song also another thing, is that in each album you see the characters changing in some way, like we do, they don't stay whit the same clothes and overall same appearance forever a good example is the character Noddle, on the first release we see her as a little girl and as the other songs albums are released, you see that shes growing up, and we see her go from a little kid to a teenager to an young adult and you also see her personality and aesthetics changing and how her attitude towards the other members changed as she grew up whit them and you can also notice on the other members that they had aged too so they aren't just there, they have much more going on in and out of the screen

[@buupy]

also just to add to my own reply cus it was getting too long, lmao i think one of the biggest differences between Gorillaz and Miku vs these ai virtual singers whatever is that even though we see Miku and Gorillaz as the ones dancing and singing the song, you know that there is a person behind them who made the song and animated everything whit Miku, we know about how different people arrange her tone, we know the name of said artist, and that there is a huge effort being made behind every live performance, and it's not ignored by the fandom whit Gorillaz, we know who is the vocalist, we know hes the one whoe created everything and that he is 2Ds voice (the character who is the vocalist) we see the actual people from the band on live performances, we know that there's a whole team behind it, animating it while whit those ai singer the companies try to tell us that they are human like and they r the ones singing and dancing by themselves and kinda of trying to completely brush the fact that there is a whole team working behind the scenes so its not a revolutionary instrument that can be used to anyone to create any song that their heart desires like Miku or a passionate project made by a group of people that has a deep history and connection whit its fans like Gorillaz its just companies copying each other trying to show a character who has the same characteristics every time (virtual singer and dancer, whole plot is "im virtual and youre human :(", songs are very similar, dont really have a personality, bland background, colerful hair and basic clothes, only do anythingrelated to current trends, i could go on forever) and always saying its a "revolutionary! never seen before!" when its just,,,a random 3d model dancing on the screen and they also, unlike Miku and Gorillaz, completely ignore the human work that goes behind everything, we dont even know who is the voice or writers behind those ai characters exactly (i think there was a company that straight up scammed and stole an artist work for one of the ai singers) thats what cuts it for everyone, is just companies trying to push the ai thing to try to be big in an easy and fast way, showing how easily human work can be replaced and overshadowed by a machine

[@bvabildtrup]

Gorillaz was initially sort of a satire of the boybands and girl-groups at the turn of the century (I think), but really it's just a Damon Albarn solo-project with cool art, lore and concept to it. It's funny that what Gorillaz was a reaction to, like Back street boys, Nsync, Britney Spears, Spicegirls etc. those groups are like Mozart and Beethoven compared to something like that Noonoo abomination.

[@gothicmuffinofdoom]

Being a 3D artist by trade, it was so funny seeing all these new virtual characters, they look a lot like the character projects your start doing as a student before you learn all the rules of anatomy or stylization. The look kind of human, but not really. Thanks for taking one for the team Jarvis. This feels like all businesspeople and no artists.

[@icephoenix174]

As a hobbyist beginning 3D artist, I feel personally attacked. But I also agree lol

[@kaemincha]

Definitely feels like tech bros stepping onto CGI artists turf without actually employing anyone from the field

[@pajamaramayt]

I can’t believe you let Drew walk all the way back to Florida by himself. Smh

[@cdadamly]

No one could keep up with Drew!

[@frogie3119]

@@cdadamlyBut what if someone tries to take advantage of him!?!? 😢

[@NoveleHell]

what was jarvis gonna do catch up and stop him he was just a blur

[@harperthegreat]

@@cdadamly BY A MILE!

[@AdaireKrickets]

He didn't! Drew moonwalked back

[@AdrianWoodUK]

I spoke personally to LeChat earlier and asked what her hobbies were. She said "As a Learning Language Model, I don't have hobbies, but here are some popular hobbies", and proceeded to list 12 different activities including "stamp collecting", "watching movies", and "stamp collecting".

[@imanijohnson1340]

RIVETING~

[@Squeep1]

All the kids today are into stamp collecting, not to be confused with stamp collecting which is also very popular among them kids nowadays

[@ohliveeahy]

@@Squeep1 I agree! my friends are always mixing the two up. It's honestly really simple, stamp collecting is when you get stamps for a collection and stamp collecting is when you find stamps to collect!

[@starlightkid49]

hope shes enjoying stamp collecting!

[@slendyfia_9497]

Wait, has she included stamp collecting (i can't read, sorry😔)?? It's like, so popular nowadays

[@remem95]

Old men: *make sexualized teen character* Also old men: *make her say* "My creators are great hard working artists with keen eyes and a vision"

[@abbycantrell1369]

If she ends up failing, they could always try to claim that she's an allegory for the predatory music industry and that she was actually a social statement this whole time, lol 😂

[@Quaila]

This! They are so pathetic!!!

[@sylv512]

hatsune miku was the original “virtual influencer” and nobody can take that away from us

[@sylv512]

also what’s sexualized about it exactly? i haven’t looked at the character a lot but if they did the models like they do fortnite characters i’m gonna be kinda weirded out *edit:* ok yeah i see it now

[@JayFolipurba]

They showed the 40 year-old dude mocapping the teen girl character. And now all the sexy dance moves she does have lost all appeal

[@Historyofstitchery]

(On the one girl being a model) As someone who is forced to learn about the bizarre antics of the fashion industry for my major. Major fashion houses and brands are trying SO hard to make nft clothing, the metaverse, and stuff like this a huge thing. They want to appeal to the youths(TM), and also be on the cutting edge of fashion. I want to work in history and/or costuming and my life choices have brought me to seeing Roblox characters wearing Ralph Lauren and Gucci. Somebody sedate me.

[@grrbarking]

ohh that's super interesting! I mean its hell but I've never thought about metaverse clothes. Oh my god as if digital purchases weren't bad enough already in virtual games

[@NathanTruby]

The CGI one broke the first rule of Vtubing and virtual 'girlfriends': Dont break the immersion.

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

The parasocial aspect is what attracts people

[@NathanTruby]

@@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet for many of them, it's also the thought that they might have a chance with them too

[@Lucifersfursona]

“Humans are naturally evolving towards a more ultimate, superior human being, and we think we can use technology to help-“ what in the eugenics batman

[@Lucifersfursona]

Le Chat They named her either 2005 memespeak “the chat” or French “the cat” which like. If a cat girl vtuber with a human being attached to it calls themselves “le chat” I can find that a little funny but if it’s what y’all named ur for profit AI oc... idk abt all that

[@Lucifersfursona]

I don’t like. I’m possibly just old by being an adult at all but I’m gonna be 30 pretty soon and I don’t like how severe the baby face is, I don’t like that instead of figuring out how to not exploit teenagers brands are just creating ethically dubious semi fictional teenagers

[@hornitako7006]

Armored Core 6 plot belike

[@ResidentMilf]

Also, not how evolution works. It isn't directed toward some ultimate goal, it's adaptive. What is considered "superior" is completely dependent on environment.

[@rat3015]

​@@davidhetherman8127i feel like you stopped reading their comment at baby face

[@canningtuna]

tell me why they could have made noonoouri (who of course must be in as many sexy bathing suits as possible) ANY age and they chose to make her a teenager

[@xxvskrunkle]

LIKE EWW 🤮

[@mokonarose01]

That's all I was thinking about watching the clips. Why is she a TEENAGER💀

[@notthedoctor1789]

I also think it's weird that a bunch of dudes when with making the avatar/model female when the whole team is made of men.

[@matheusvitors.9842]

I'd guess because she is supposed to appeal to teenagers

[@gremlinwc8996]

That's like how roblox specified that their projected dating app would be for people 17+. Like ik dating ages vary from place to place and there's statutory laws, but as an American company they could've easily just made it 18, but they went with leaving it as 17+, so now there's room for p3d0ph1l1a that could've easily been avoided. Like they go out of their way to make it creepy

[@seyebye]

i really don't understand what these companies are misrepresenting actual successful virtual influencers...? like. hatsune miku is extremely successful for a reason. that reason being that she is not an entity for a Corporation to control, and instead a TOOL that EVERYONE CAN CONTROL because the company has created her *for the literal purpose of being a voice bank.* the corporation created a voice bank (with the source being a real actual human being who was paid handsomely and adequately credited) and then sold that voice bank as a product for other musicians to use. hatsune miku is so successful because she came with a brand identity tied to a product and people loved her (made-up) personality and her (made-up) voice so much that they decided to build off of it, and then created a whole beautiful and expansive universe where the world is hers. virtual influencers can only ever truly succeed if these companies making these shoddy gimmicks actually pay attention to consumers and their behavior instead of just trying to shove these influencers in to where literal babies scrolling through tiktok can see them and fit them alongside the game ads that they usually see.

[@jenelaina5665]

See you can see that insight but that's because your be all end all first and foremost motivation ain't profit.

[@capybaraenthusiast5164]

What Hastune Miku and Gorillaz have in common is that the fictional persona used are really just the tools to drive the individual's artistry. But back to Miku/Vocaloid, we see how these digital pop stars *actually* go global when the company understands the value within it are the real people behind it all. The concerts, the games, the merchandise, etc etc. these all highlight and give credit to the actual people who made songs using miku and/or other vocaloid. They've made an uplifting and welcoming community with their product where everyone just wants to *create* at the end of the day. But all these corporations think is "hey we could make a cute 3d girl dance and sing too, lets make our own and we'll rich by the afternoon!"

[@risingsuperstarfrost3096]

As a lifelong vocaloid fan, Hatsune Miku is also an entity for a corporation to control. The average user won't run into issues but Crpyton owns the rights to her image.

[@ducklikeachicken]

"world is hers" i saw that hehehehe

[@sho.thatsit]

Miku my queen

[@slvergle4697]

This feels like the people who bullied anime and vocaloid fans in highschool growing up, now trying to capitalize off of those same concepts, but they still think anime and vocaloid fans are lame and stupid so instead of taking inspiration from those things they just make infinitely shittier versions of them

[@audengranger]

"if only we had Taylor Swift that could change quicker. we'd be making millions if she didn't need so many wardrobes" i'm a theatrical wardrobe supervisor and that is like. that's genuinely what the director seems to think when i'm struggling to speed up a costume quickchange backstage

[@radiophobia1974]

it's bizarre that this is even a thing considering people have been doing this for years. gorillaz started in the 90's, studio killers since the 2010's, and vocaloid has been a thing since like 2004??? like the virtual band thing has existed for a WHILE.

[@decap_dan3991]

There's even a virtual Black Metal band, Belzebubs. Who are based on a webcomic.

[@oomomomee]

kim pfp my beloved

[@ishathakor]

to be fair being an artist with a virtual avatar and being an INFLUENCER with a virtual avatar are very different things. like with the artists they just wanna make art without making their actual face (and voice in some cases) part of their public image. influencers literally run on selling their own image??

[@nari5161]

Studio Killers! No one talks about Cherry when this stuff comes up

[@mundanepants]

It's tech bros. If they're not taking credit for inventing trains, they're busy taking credit for all the other things that already exist in more functional forms

[@nicky55]

I hate the language that article has, it's not a human, it isn't cleaning its house, it's all lies. Also making her look young, officially a teenager then sexualizing her is so gross. Not to mention removing humans out of the equation, this whole thing is disgusting

[@imanijohnson1340]

And I HATE that so many of these are lazy versions of established characters. I INSTANTLY get “n3ko” from Aryark’s Cytus from LeChat, and StudioKillers vibes from Noona It’s all cheap knockoffs of successful characters that are juuuus “underground” enough they think no one will notice -___-

[@Naokarma]

@@imanijohnson1340 You're honestly going way farther than these companies even went. Pretty sure they just went "What's popular with those animes your grandkids watch? What's that? Teenage girls with cat ears? Well, if you say so."

[@LJCG777]

​@@imanijohnson1340 really I was really preocupied by the thumbnail thinking StudioKillers had dipped this low after these years

[@RadeonVega64]

​@@imanijohnson1340HOLY HELL CYTUS MENTIONED

[@rayveewrites6268]

I'm pretty sure "an artificial character with a human soul" is the plot to multiple horror stories.

[@anglepsycho]

Megaman did so much better. Fuck this Nonoori character, throw in Alia or Layer and bam. Money, good bodies, and especially good character plots.

[@rafaelmarkos4489]

Multiple SCPs are basically this

[@theReincarnate]

Also the plot of fnaf

[@itsthejavavoid]

@@theReincarnate and ddlc

[@Riley-vy5qm]

​@@itsthejavavoidAnd that MEGAN movie!

[@ActuallyYoda69]

Being honest, after Polar I haven't really seen anyone talk about these "virtual idols" at all. These companies are trying so hard yet nobody cares anymore. Everyone loved making fun of Polar, but after that was done people just moved on. People prefer VTubers, because they actually have personality, they aren't corporate products, so people just don't want these "Virtual Idols" right now.

[@Appl3beesBoneless]

watching jarvis repeat "The cat" Over and over again is so funny to me for no reason

[@viviantompkins7925]

“It doesn’t make the song good if it gets stuck in your head” The clearest evidence of this for me is that “Toxic Gossip Train” gets stuck in my head so easily

[@vanessawalker6666]

I think about that song every few days and I hate that lol

[@anglepsycho]

​@@vanessawalker6666Toxic Gossip Train? Is that the one from the female child rapist?

[@jommisalami]

"The rumors look like facts if you don't mind the gaps" No way I should remember that after hearing it twice from a couple of memes

[@ggundercover3681]

​@@jommisalami"I'm not a groomer, just a loser"

[@georgehenry1104]

@@vanessawalker6666how’re you doin three weeks later

[@A.N._ONyme]

I think that when LeChat was made by the most uncreative people on the planet all they could think to name their catgirl was "cat but woman" but they couldn't reasonably call her "pussy" so they switched it to french, realized that "chatte" has the exact same issue, could no be bothered to look for an alternative and just went with the masculine. And voilà they named their virtual egirl the same as famous french laundry detergent brand Le Chat

[@camille8231]

Fuck I didn't think of that, it's been a while since i heard the brand Lechat. I would have been funny if they didn't check and wanted a "classy" feeling for switching to french and named her "La chatte" french Twitter would be having a blast 😭

[@wrightcember]

@@camille8231to be fair, the french love that shit, but hot damn would it be awkward lmao

[@baintreachas]

literally could've just called her "la gata" which... ok CAN be used like "hottie" but not necessarily, and never "pussy"

[@sylv512]

@@camille8231LMAO would’ve been funny as shit i’m a french student but i’ve done research on my free time about why we don’t use « la chatte »

[@gabiluch87]

That makes a lot of sense... Very unoriginal

[@mothmansuperfan7513]

Gorillaz did the virtual band thing much better than these half-hearted cash grabs could ever go

[@juderiley2248]

Right??? Also the article claims Noonori is Warner's first not real artist, but that's not true?? Didn't they sign Gorillaz at some point?

[@sigmasigmaboy47]

Exactly 😭

[@shutupsoph528]

YESSS😭

[@DongerDayz]

Gorillaz doesn't make money though.

[@ennuibarbie]

@@DongerDayz Uh No lmao? They make millions.

[@croaklikeatoad4384]

Why’d they make Noonouri a “teenager” then dress her like that?? It’s still creepy if she isn’t real, it’s almost worse because it’s adults puppeteering a half naked doll child

[@masterplusmargarita]

I'm a big fan of vtubers, and a big part of the fun of that fandom is treating them like they're real. Breaking kayfabe in vtuber chats and comment sections is pretty taboo, and it's really entertaining to collectively act like these are actual anime girls. It's silly, but it makes me happy, and that's all I want out of it. The difference is that when I say something like "Man, Ceres Fauna's really funny!" I'm not actually talking about Fauna, I'm talking about the performer who's playing Fauna. Fauna's just a 3d model, she's not funny, she doesn't have a personality - there's a talented woman behind that. If that person got fired tomorrow and was replaced by a different performer with the same model, I wouldn't keep watching Fauna, I'd go seek out whatever her performer was doing, because that's the reason I'm actually watching. The character's incidental. This is an attempt to get rid of the person, to make the character the center, and it just can't work. People don't care about a personality with no personality. Feeling the presence of a human, even if hidden behind several layers of CG and kayfabe, is what makes this stuff worthwhile. This is if a vtuber was just a 3d model sitting there. No one wants this.

[@Fandom_Maniac]

we got miku, gorillaz, and other good virtual artists we do NOT need virtual influencers please and thank you :) edit: okay miku is an instrument, not an artist herself, she's just a voicebank made for others to use for songs and stuff sorry for the mix up

[@vfl0werswife]

real. MIKU DID IT BETTERRRRRRRR

[@mokonarose01]

Also vtubers, but I guess that's too human for these companies

[@Fandom_Maniac]

@@mokonarose01 oh yeah I forgot about them

[@18puppies91]

Have you seen how well produced CodeMikos tech is? Yet this is what news companies show, as this is where they receive money.

[@GarfieldPhone]

I'm sure there's room for independent folks to create characters to be fictional influencers. I've had ideas for stuff like that. Rather than being tech bro shit, it could be fun fiction.

[@Scrimmified]

It really astounds me how BAD all these ai influencers look. There's so many independent vtubers with 3d models they commissioned off twitter and tracking software they learned how to use off free youtube tutorials and the movement comes out way smoother than this. Teenagers were learning how to rig and animate character mmd dance videos a decade ago. I guess it's because they couldn't hire anyone worth their salt in the industry for such a stupid bullshit project.

[@bedi3983]

they werent willing to pay anyone worth their salt

[@mundanepants]

​@@bedi3983what kills me though is that they were willing to pay tech bros probably entirely too much for what the end product is actually worth. But they aren't willing to pay artists for something that's actually valuable and good.

[@swordkitty]

LeChat looks like a worse version of Talking Angela tbh

[@brook_angel]

​@ville__thanks for the free report ❤

[@overevaluated]

@ville__ EVERYBODY STOP MAKING FUN OF THEM WE GOT A WARNING

[@ChimeraGirl_]

Something about a teenage CGI girl actually being a bunch of middle aged men bothers me... lol

[@comyuse9103]

its just the internet we were promised in the 90s!

[@Eebers]

Yes i was hoping jarvis would bring this up. They can do whatever they want with this character and she cannot consent to any of it. Much like how meka was created by a white guy, he can portray this person however he wants

[@ChimeraGirl_]

@@Eebers Yeah...I think you hit the nail on the head there! Icky.

[@cupids_favourite_aro4578]

Yeah, and the very skimpy outfits are a bit🤢

[@ButWhy-te5xj]

A teenage girl wearing a trech coat

[@sydneykochan2388]

i came across this semi-virtual group called plave and at first i thought it was one of those completely fake animated character bands but apparently they’re real guys (and all of them are great singers) and they wear those suits that track your movement and they do activities real time so you’re seeing these anime characters that are making totally natural human movements and it was craaazyyyyy

[@ennuibarbie]

For me the only 3 "virtual" artist that work as a concept are The Gorillaz, Studio Killers, and Miku Hatsune. I don't group KDA in that because that shit is a AD by a video game company. The reason Miku works is because her "character" is made by the community. The compnay had nothing to do with her other than putting her on a CD as a mascot for the software.

[@AiLoveAidoru]

don't forget Kizuna Ai, and Hololive a few years later.

[@axuwu6939]

As a vocaloid fan, these virtual influencers make part of my soul evaporate every time I see them Like, this is the exact opposite of everything vocaloid is and represents. Vocaloid is about increasing potential for human creativity! It enhances the human part! And these virtual influencers? It erases EVERYTHING that makes creativity creative, it takes all the humanity and soul out of it, it turns art into nothing more than a product for the sake of getting money. I hope they never succeed because I don’t want to live in a world where art exists only for the profits, not for the fact that it’s an inherent part of the human soul to enjoy creating and creations

[@Vampress09]

How does vocaloid enhances the human aspect? I know nothing about them so I am intrigued.

[@Red-jl1qr]

​@@Vampress09 That's what I'm wondering, like no one acknowledges the humans behind vocaloid. This is just vocaloid but without the well designed characters and banger music

[@spontaneouslycombusted7664]

​@Vampress0923 vocaloid is a voice synthesizer most popular for the hatsune miku voicebank, anyone can use it to make music so, its very human in that actual people write the music and its not a huge company trying to make money, its millions of people using it to make their own original songs (sorry if my description's kinda weird)

[@Red-jl1qr]

@@spontaneouslycombusted7664 ok, so it's not ai or anything, it's a whole different thing

[@6Shots_ofEspresso]

⁠​⁠@@spontaneouslycombusted7664that and i feel like the fact that miku changes with each song she sings is similar to how real people experience different emotions. shes not just constantly happy or sad or longing, her personality is fluid

[@apt_get]

On the Japanese-speaking internet, we are really used to seeing virtual singers like KAF acquire very dedicated fans. I think the difference is that KAF is portrayed by a single human being and the producers of her songs are platformed about as much as KAF itself. It bothers me that these “virtual influencers” are all about minimizing the individual. I think that’s what makes them feel so inauthentic- it’s a bunch of dudes pretending to be a girl. It’s not a girl using a character for anonymity or creative flexibility.

[@_yeahyeah]

omg i love kaf!!! she has a vocaloid-like character too (kafu)

[@liananoelle]

jarvis is slowly but surely migrating to the metaverse

[@noobbrosif]

It’s so funny that the “bad fake French accent that everybody will make fun of you for” ended up pronouncing Lechat correctly and I think that really says something about the French language

[@ObsidianNebula00]

I love how every time one of these comes out we get all these "is this the future of music?" articles, as though it's brand new and not something that's already failed to catch on several times before

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Miku was created 15+ years ago and Gorillaz is even older, so all the articles acting like these virtual influencers are a completely new thing instead of shameless copies of better things is wild

[@trashkuun]

Studio Killers is a great example of good virtual CGI styled music videos and design. The thing is there are REAL PEOPLE behind those characters.

[@Charuchii]

Speaking of Studio Killers, Noonouri is definitely based on Cherry. The voice and look is ripped straight off. I feel a lot of the visual style is just ripped from Studio Killers and just turned into full 3D

[@oddlem]

I was gonna say the exact same thing!! I have no idea why these dudes don't take the same direction, studio killers put heart in their music/characters and it shows

[@cassafrassarole]

That's exactly what I came to chat to look for as soon as I saw and heard her@@Charuchii

[@lepidosiren_paradoxa]

yesss i thought abt them iimmediately lol she's clearly a ripoff of cherry and they also seem to be trying to copy their music's style as well

[@gwennorthcutt421]

as soon as i heard her voice with the vocal fry i was like oh, this is the cherry studio killers we have at home :/

[@lennon6582]

Shocker these middle aged dudes chose to pose a teenage character provocatively in a revealing swimsuit.

[@Phosypha]

I can't believe they managed to make an AI generated voice that sounds like it smokes a pack a day! The innovation in this sector is POPPING OFF!!!!!

[@Jacob-Sophia]

And sounds like a mix between a Japanese accent, and Icelandic accent, and a slurring concussion.

[@saraelizabeth589]

Can we give a moment to appreciate Jarvis's hair? I feel like it looks healthier every time he makes a video

[@Fluff_Noodles]

It truly is.

[@qyvoz]

As a massive vocaloid fan everything about these "virtual AI influencers" is just so. Frustrating to me. The thing that's really killing me here is how in the vogue article talking about Noonoouri, the way they talk about making her voice sounds almost like the process of making a vocalsynth voicebank. It's kinda feels like they're trying to make their own vocalsynth software, and act like it's this ~crazy new thing~ that's never been done before when the first vocaloids were released in 2004. And those voicebanks still hold up to this day. I could probably rant about why vocaloid and vocasynths in general are better in every way forever tbh.

[@kaylynvandermerwe]

I'm so worried these "AI artists" are young-coded or straight up called a teenager and is actually being controlled by an adult, just think about how many human influencer take advantage of and groom their very young fans, this is just another gateway for that especially with far less accountability because there's no obvious face or person tied to it

[@jaokeki]

I agree, it's super icky. It's like new wave pedophilia

[@blondbraid7986]

@@jaokeki Exactly, and it's made worse when they try to treat their characters like real people and give the illusion that it's a person who chose to dress and pose sexy for themselves and not a waifu designed by and for creepy middle-aged men.

[@Quaila]

YES it's extremely troubling, normalizing a very exploitative model of behavior for young people to expect from adults!

[@DeathnoteBB]

“Young-coded” 💀

[@grrbarking]

@@DeathnoteBB RIGHT lmao I had to reread this comment. I hate how tiktok has ruined so much important terminology

[@TheOffensiveSenses]

I think the voice isn't pure AI voice, but an AI voice filter and the guy's own accent is coming through. This feels a lot more like the kind of artifacts you get from a filter than it does from purely generated voice. I'm more concerned about why she sounds sad all the time. When she says "I am made by humans for humans" she sounds like she's being imprisoned with the sole purpose of giving people pleasure in a Black Mirror type situation.

[@wendyheatherwood]

I was wondering why the accent was shifting like that, because I've never heard an AI voice with such an inconsistent accent before. A filter does make more sense.

[@dand1253]

Yeah, real... _ANATOMY_ vibes. An inanimate structure cursed with a pallid shadow-life by humanity.

[@mellow_mallow]

Not only does she _sound_ sad, she also kind of _looks_ sad, just because of the way they sculpted her face I think? It's a great package deal

[@guhraysee]

yeah it just sounds like they’ve used auto tune on a guy’s actual real voice to sound like a girl 🥴 ick

[@0.-.0]

It's not one guy behind the whole thing lol. They say in the video that that is a filter on a real human voice, tho. She sounds sad all the time because that's how they made her sound, though... that's how art works.

[@Impiness]

It's like they took Cherry from the Studio Killers and stripped off all the personality from her, then gave her the blandest wardrobe known to Man (⁠─⁠.⁠─⁠|⁠|⁠） The reason these virtual influencers fail is they're made to be appealing to as many people as possible, and thus appeal to almost no one. They have no real character or personality to latch onto. Just an amalgamation of various popular, pleasant traits and interests. Compare this Murdoc from The Gorillaz. Murdoc is as far from marketable as you could possibly be. He's a chain-smoking horndog with terrible hygiene. He's selfish, greedy, and a literal demon-worshipper. Yet, people love him. He's got tons of fans. He feels like a real person and not the product of a focus group.

[@morganorwhatever]

Also Murdoc wasn’t made intentionally sexy to make money for Gorillaz. These virtual influencers, mainly the female ones, are obviously honeypots

[@Impiness]

@@morganorwhatever What!? Have you not seen that Motorola ad or Rock Tha House mv? That man *obviously* is a Honeypot lol

[@morganorwhatever]

Fair enough lol. Although I’d still argue that’s far from the main appeal of Gorillaz, especially since in universe, Murdoc is the band leader. Of course he’s going to put himself front and centre most of the time

[@PepperIsSalty]

The thing is, with Gorillaz they play into the fact that the band isn't real and the members are fleshed out. These influencers that they're trying to make lack self-awareness, and they're trying to rely on looks instead of world building. The people behind things like Noonoouri don't seem to get that this isn't the best way to go with this kinda thing, or they're too money hungry to care.

[@imanijohnson1340]

He feels like a CHARACTER not a real person dear god I’d hate if he was real 🤣

[@luckfoser]

another thing about virtual influencers is that virtual characters (admittedly thinking about vocaloid, but also gorillaz and stuff) are both like extremely high quality and successful in a largely handmade way that requires a lot of labor and love

[@-11.35]

I put this on as a funny little video to get some creative work done to and instead I just sat there for about two minutes, coffee cup in hands, pressed against my forehead, eyes closed, and died inside with every word of Lechat's interview.

[@googleoogle]

I think the worst thing is how much they WANT to minimize the presence of human involvement. Like obviously there has to be human involvement at every stage of development and production of these "influencers" but we are all supposed to pretend that there isn't. I feel like the vocaloid that people enjoy is where the people behind it are emphasized.

[@ghosty5417]

As a visual artist being threatened by generative AI, I appreciate Jarvis talking about this. It's really taken a toll on me recently and this was really a breath of fresh air, thanks for genuinely criticizing these practices in front of a bigger audience and spreading awareness.

[@mellow_mallow]

Haven't got there in the video yet, but I'm glad he's on our side. It honestly doesn't feel to me like what they've made is even AI- it's not any more intelligent than those pigeons that learn to press buttons. It's like a blender that just spins until the result is good enough. Sorry I'm kinda salty at ai lol

[@AzureRT456]

There's still people out there who enjoy actual art being made, so don't worry about AI shit and just focus on what you love to do. AI-generated content won't replace human-created content that's for sure

[@ciciamanda.]

@@AzureRT456 even if it won't entirely replace human made art it is a rather serious copyright infringement issue that isn't being taken as seriously as it should. Luckily there are some large steps being taken, like the lawsuit against OpenAI by a group of authors, including George RR Martin.* It's also worth mentioning that a lot of jobs in art are definitely at risk, such as graphic design. Why, as a huge company, would you pay for a logo when AI can generate one? it's a slippery slope *(part of the lawsuit states "At the heart of these algorithms is systemic theft on a massive scale" which i think sums it up pretty well. The OpenAI side claims that the generated content is inherently transformative and therefore fair use)

[@berkeleyisonline160]

​@@ciciamanda.u can dislike ai but stricter copyright laws won't fix the issue. and i think ppl assume that "ai = bad" is the end of the argument when it's just a tool. the ppl trying to take advantage of it to screw people over are the problem

[@chuckmcluckin6082]

​@@berkeleyisonline160Then what's the solution, smart guy?

[@oliverpalomera9657]

One of the things I really like about Hatsune Miku is the fact that the community is the one that writes a story for her. She doesn't have a background, we're the ones that create one for her and I think that shows the humanity behind all of her character.

[@pinkdarkman]

Yes I love that the artist's own self comes through with Miku. Like, Rolling Girl Miku is a completely different character from World is Mine Miku and that's completely fine because she's an instrument that allows those artists to create music. There's no pretend characterization with Miku. We all understand she's a blank slate who can represent anyone.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

That's why there's no Vocaloid anime, they don't want to give her an official personality so fans can imagine her as whatever they want her to be

[@Lauren-nf9fm]

It's weird that they keep framing these characters as both teenage girls with lives and interests, but also as a product for humans to "use" (and even make the characters describe themselves that way). Compare/contrast with Hatsune Miku always being framed as just a fun little guy who lives in your computer.

[@redfrog1628]

That part in the end you're talking about is 100% correct. The sad part is a LOT of people think if you post your art on the internet, then other people are allowed to steal it and make profit. I personally might not ever sell my art until like it gets really good, but I know a lot of other artists' jobs and livelihoods are gonna be affected and I hate it. Also, if an artist is reading this and you do digital art, look up glazing. I think that's what it's called, it's to help fight against our art being used for training data.

[@kaitlynnelson2139]

Does anyone else find it icky that one of the “personality traits” this fake teenage girl made by a group of old men has is keeping her house clean 😐

[@goneawayxx]

I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE THAT.....

[@username-mk4qv]

Doesn’t surprise me. Why wouldn’t the dirty old men who insist on making all virtual servants female, also be p3dophiles in addition to being misogynists? Lol

[@Ssdgg8]

N the outfits

[@kel.sharpe]

Ew I hate this so much. I recently saw one of these virtual influencers promoting a fashion brand and they were "modeling" with actual human beings wearing the same clothes :/

[@LethalLemonLime]

​@ville__reported

[@dampsocc]

​@ville__ yo what

[@InsecurArties]

whatd they say?​@@LethalLemonLime

[@InsecurArties]

​@@dampsoccWhatd they say?

[@1k4zr]

​@InsecurArties press ville's @ and js look at the stuff they've got on community tab 💀

[@JuniperJadePR]

The first time I heard of Noouri was in a local newspaper's paid puff piece. It's hilarious how companies claim that they can't afford to pay their employees proper wages/benefits but throw money at this garbage.

[@danielomar9712]

Even the models feel so souless , it has the corporate flavour to it

[@i_eat_nintendo_cartriges_lmao]

THANK YOU for mentioning the AI art epidemic!!!!!!!! as a young artist, it's great to see people bringing awareness to it and it gives me hope for the future :)

[@aviothic.]

As someone who’s french Canadian, hearing the way Jarvis pronounces “LeChat” like that might be the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. I’m also a little confused as to why her name is “LeChat” instead of “LaChatte” considering she is female, but maybe there’s an explanation? 😭

[@ftseo]

une chatte is slang for a vagina in some french speaking countries.

[@1e1001]

was wondering the same thing, my guess is it either makes it more "obviously french" or like easier to pronounce for not french people (nice one)

[@ecliiipsssse]

there is an explanation, they are putting in minimal effort to get quick cash

[@Rictavio27]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@prxngsicle]

my only suggestion is a non french speakers named her who dont get the concept of fem and masc pronouns on anything that isnt a human being. my other guess is they saw something like chat noir and figured oh... chat means cat !!!

[@tibbytobby]

i can’t wait for jarvis to become a virtual influencer

[@Sparrow6359]

omg me neither @jarvis make this happen

[@toastonmitchell2636]

JARV-AI

[@leiathrix]

Man virtual influencers getting souls left and right, I wish I had one too

[@iamjustkiwi]

Hard to get one when all the influencers are claiming them for themselves 😤

[@sillyguy_5559]

I had like four, they were stolen by the AI influencers I now have zero and am a flower

[@Heartstrs]

Same

[@gremlinwc8996]

It's a real good time for people to sell their souls to devils, the devils take those souls and sell them to virtual influencers and along the way people who sell their souls like me get a pretty penny for it.

[@o0Scarrow0o]

As a redhead I can only steal the souls of others to try and fill the void but I can dream of having my own

[@onyxtay7246]

There are some fantastic artists out there who can make a computer generated voice sound like it's almost human. It takes a lot of skill. But these companies don't want to pay people like that, because artists actually care about the shit they create.

[@the.downward.spiral]

12:36 THATS POPIPO😭😭 u can’t copy the concept of a virtual idol, the design of the most popular virtual idol, AND the dance moves and expect people not to notice 😭🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@GotInterest]

what kills me is that there are already successful virtual musical acts. Gorillaz, K/DA, Studio Killerz. None of these musical acts show the actual artists behind them as the face. You could even argue that Miku falls into this category (despite her and other vocaloids being more akin to musical instruments, they are marketed like idols and Miku does have her own music videos and has toured before). The reason why all of these work and are successful is because the focus is on the music. These guys are tech bros. They want to sell technology, not music, but are still trying to market in the music industry. There is a fundamental mismatch here.

[@ShockedLogic]

theese corporations really did just completely miss the different appeals of Miku and Gorillaz and just saw "cartoon singer = money" and not the massive community vibe of Vocaloid or story telling music videos of Gorillaz

[@yann6109]

I love how those AI creatures are shown as something revolutionary and better than real, human artists, meanwhile they need the whole crew of musicians, dancers, animators, designers etc. to work in any way

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Right!? It either costs just as much, or more than, hiring a human singer. Just hire a singer and you don't have to jump through all these stupid hoops. Hell, hire a singer who also knows music theory and you can pump out tons of songs faster and easier! I hate this planet sometimes.

[@Lifes_a_Willow]

honestly i think that a lot of these (music) companies see not just dollar signs but someone who can work nonstop 24/7,touring and producing albums...they wouldn't need any rest physically or mentally, so that's just racking in the cash. but genuinely feel like chatgpt and AI(things like that) are really gonna ruin/stunt creativity and realism.

[@ep1csw4g]

there's this virtual kpop boy group called PLAVE and i think they're the closest to what a future with virtual music artists could be like and it's funny because there are still real people behind the members at the end of the day i think companies need to realize no one actually wants "ai" musicians 😭

[@multinsomnia5455]

I love PLAVE!!!

[@Zoemi_.l]

It's funny to see how Noonoouri makes compliments about the people behind the project, when it's someone who doesn't exist and the compliments are made by the same people behind the project. Literally a pat on the back for themselves.

[@415-k1ub]

In Nounouri's case, it's fine if the team behind her wants to be transparent, since these "AI" artists tend to hide the existence of their team and try way too hard to pretend that the "AI" is doing everything. However, the team have to be properly credited instead of just appearing as nameless staff in a behind-the-scenes video. What these corporate suits don't understand about the virtual idol scene is that loyal fans do care about the humans behind it and will follow their favourite human music producers, illustrators, cover artists and other creators within the community. Honestly, I would've been more interested in Nounouri if her team didn't make their sexualised idol a teenager. It pretty much shows that they only care about generating maximum profit.

[@vulpesrocktails918]

Right? Like- I'm not a fan of any Vocaloids, I'm a fan of the real people who use their voicebanks.

[@SlantedSpines]

It’s uncomfortable for me that a bunch of guys created this “sexy” “teen” pop star that they can manipulate to do whatever they want…

[@ellafreya_29]

I like how they market these singers like they are the first kpop virtual idols like there aren't multiple already that at least involve a few ai members or aspects (aespa, mave, plave)

[@Gloom-Rot]

The visual of having a semi-realistic body with mocap animation then this giant cartoonist bobble head with no refined detail, expression or features is just bizarre...

[@strawbuniies]

This is all just so fascinating. Virtual artists HAVE existed but trying to make one just to hop on that cashflow train is so ?? Miku's popularity rose from the ability to make music in a voice that wasn't your own, but Miku's; a voice synthesizer. So many people embraced and delved into that form of creation that she's become this presence and an idol for creativity. The magic behind her is that she's a love letter from various musicians and a means of self-expression ( look at the Pokemon collab she has right now! ) whereas Noonoouri is created with the intent to profit from what's big.- vocaloid, v-tubers, etc. It's wild that the magic behind it all was so willingly dropped to promote this character 😭

[@TannerOfTheNorth]

The thing with the AI sounding bad is that it VERY clearly is using a Laura Bailey (Rise, Persona 4) voice bank, which she has gone on record saying she does NOT CONDONE and does not want to be used. It sounds exactly like Laura Bailey with a slight accent twang added.

[@abigaill]

Every video with these virtual influencers unlocks a new ick for me and today it's based around talking about them like they're real, thank you very much, I hate it

[@FlorSilvestre12]

I really don't like how all these female virtual artists are modeled as bobbleheads with twig skinny bodies while FN Meka has mostly realistic human proportions.

[@tsktsk1119]

It's interesting because I think a lot of the virtual popstar are meant to be emulating Hatsune Miku but the people behind these virtual idols don't understand that the reason it worked so well is that she didn't exist outside of the art that was produced with her voice - and also it is used in so many different ways in so many different styles by small and big artists alike. Idk it seems like to me people see the popularity of that and go "that would make us a ton of money!" without understanding the concept of it whatsoever

[@andrewgreen6702]

This is like trying to reinvent the wheel, we already have Miku and all the other vocaloid characters, no one wants or needs different fake singers

[@hoodie_gang563]

i loved the part where jarvis said “its goldin time” and johnsoned all over the video

[@iamjustkiwi]

Be careful if you Johnson somewhere you work or you might get called into HR...

[@TrafficPartyHatTest]

I'm surprised he johnsones us for free

[@rott3n-]

i wrote an essay about virtual artists, just like gorillaz, studiokillers and hatsune miku, and they're great artists with amazing music. The difference between these artists and metaverse avatars like noonoouri its that there are real artists behind the avatars, not an ai voice (the case of hatsune miku is different bc she is a voice bank, but her songs are created by skilled producers, and her concerts almost always have a full orchestra with her)

[@axolirvin971]

Also, the voice actors that did the voices for vocoloids are celebrated by fans and talked about by name.

[@ghosthuntermike2592]

13:22 I was mainly listening to the video, then I got an ad with a guy called Patrick Stewart, and I thought for a second: "Oh, that's the guy in the mocap suit for the virtual singer" and then he started talking about refugees.

[@swellatiny]

I feel like this can be done in a fun way, there is a kpop group called Plave which is a "virtual group" but done using motion capture so there is an actual person dancing and singing behind the avatars

[@raythecreator21]

I start to jump and run around with glee whenever jarvis posts

[@randelsbiggestfan]

u r so real i do the same

[@hydromic2518]

Best thing to do!

[@raynb0w6]

real af

[@randelsbiggestfan]

@Alex-zp3kx what the fuck

[@coomesk1d]

This feels so gross to me honestly, it's just taking the shell of art, and taking out every single bit of soul from it until it just resembles art without any actual creative mind behind it, it hurts to see the direction it seems to be going

[@sonderfulsable]

virtual influencers peaked at hatsune miku, its only been downhill from there

[@mctripleA]

And it wasn't even miku, It was the real people editing her voice bank

[@liminal_gender]

As someone who does Vtubing, it's so interesting to see a core idea (a digital avatar used for entertainment purposes) taken to two opposite ends of a spectrum. On one end we have "virtual influencers" which are usually hastily-made poorly-conceptualized digital avatars with no real identity because their entire purpose is to be a product. Any personality given is curated by the people who made the character. From it's inception there is no care or artistry because that's not the intent, the intent is always money. In addition, they fail to connect with the audience they're trying to sell to because they're horrifically out of touch with what kids/teens/young adults like. They don't tap into the culture beyond surface level and stumble. Worse still, they don't research because they don't care. They think that a half-assed attempt is all someone (usually kids) needs to be satisfied. On the other side you have Vtubers: A person using a digital avatar to conceal their identity/express themselves freely. There's almost always a story tied to a Vtuber (they have lore, hobbies, heartfelt social interactions, communities) and most models/characters are so incredibly personal to the person piloting them because they've spent weeks, months or even YEARS conceptualizing them. Making their digital selves as close to their personal taste as possible. Some people even redebut multiple times to get it right because the first tries didn't feel like THEM. (Corporate Vtubers are also part of this idea because they give individual life to the character through their personality, even if they did not create the character they pilot.) That's why Vtubing succeeds while "virtual influencers" fail, there's an authenticity that can't be duplicated. When you have a real person behind the funny anime girl (who can laugh, scream at you, and even be vulnerable) you prefer that to a shady Kaiba Corp situation with 12 sweaty businessmen in a room trying, and failing, to mimic natural human speech for a store-brand Xbox Avatar.

[@imright77]

I think the creators of yameii online (oseanworld and deko) do a really good job with her as a virtual singer/rapper. she's not a real person, she's not voiced by a real person, and her music is kinda in line with the oseanworld universe. she even has fictional friends that sometime are featured (there are also times when deko himself is featured). the only problem I have with her is that english vocaloid can be a bit hard to understand.

[@annikaolsonvlogs]

The way Barbie’s been taking advantage of this concept for YEARS

[@mcwjes]

Having a human soul is a warning. She has captured one now and there's nothing to stop her from stealing another.

[@robin-1127]

The vocaloids walked so AI influencer farms could crawl and die

[@finchfull]

i love your videos so much jarvis. they honestly make me feel more normal for thinking these things are insane 😭 also the "soomsoomzip" bit had me laughing, that was so funny

[@PokeRedstone]

They can’t just keep reinventing miku hastune and insisting they did it first.

[@BigSisterNeko]

The crazy thing is Hastune Miku did all this and MORE. Like she was on the Dave Letterman show in 2014! It’s like they missed the point of Miku and Vocaloids. This will never succeed and I want these companies to burn millions 😂🤣😂🤣

[@mightymeatymech]

this article: this VR 'artist' loves keeping her apartment clean me, an actual human with ADHD and depression, struggling to keep my trailer clean and suffering the mental health effects: 😐😐

[@floralfae16]

On the note of virtual kpop artists, there are whole kpop groups that are exactly that. Mave being an example

[@Idk-uy1me]

Or PLAVE or NAEVIS (NAEVIS is a soloist but still) and that dude from super kind or whatever the group is

[@blake4248]

To be fair tho groups like Plave or Mave are basically just vtubers. Since it's the same person/singer behind the characters with no AI involved at all.

[@moonbubble0526]

I was gonna mention the same thing

[@Idk-uy1me]

@@blake4248 wait, are the influencers in this video v tubers? I don’t know much about v tube so now I’m confused? Why is Jarvis hating on real people? I’m so confused rn, what does Ai mean in the case of this video? Is it voice actors? I’m kinda dumb sorry

[@blake4248]

@@Idk-uy1me no the stuff Jarvis talks about here, like the blue haired girl, definitely have weird ai stuff with them. Her voice is fully ai and not a real person. I was saying it's not fully comparable to virtual kpop idols because their voices aren't ai and it's usually a real person behind the model. I just compared them to vtubers since it's the closest comparison I could think of. The influencers here def don't fit a vtuber description since they're not a real person.

[@cyro6900]

they dont know the power of hatsune miku

[@ggled_]

so, basically, people are trying to re-invent vocaloid, but in a really bad way