Virtual Pinball 2021- Suggestions and Experiences

[@crennyw]

You've done some great work here. Getting all the software worked out is a monster of a task, and the quality of your cabinets looks great too. Massive props!

[@KongsRUs]

hell yea, thanks for the shout out bro! Super killer build, definitely something I may aspire to in the future to dive more into vpin.

[@shyrix]

ngl, vic is a huge inspriation for my build. last august when he showcased it, i was like if im gonna do it, im doing it like his. and now i am. slightly smaller scale to start but all the same bells and whistles.

[@advgym]

VIP is a God! Thanks for all you've done and all you continue to do! - The Atari Cab Newb from IG

[@dominickolas]

Nice Job! Looks like fun! I'm glad you made it just the way you wanted it.

[@allensagelessarcades7105]

One heck of a build Vic VP. Keep on Rocking!!

[@Cargo_Bay]

I’m glad you give the advice of doing one table at a time. I quickly realized that downloading them in bulk was going to drive me crazy, so I made sure to download ONE at a time (2 or 3 if there are edits/mods of the table), and test them out. Then, I find a back-glass I like to attach it to, and move it to the main folder(s). But I don’t want 300 table. I’m gonna prolly tap out around 30 tables, and that’s including FX3 content.

[@soggykid5580]

Yeah 30-50 tables is a good amount. I am also picky on the look of the table…if it doesn’t look good I don’t want it in the lineup. All the new tables coming out are really nice looking though. We are spoiled to have vpw etc

[@kirkhilles523]

I would agree on the EM tables. I watched a video on an old one and how all of the parts worked and the beauty is in that mechanical process. I'm glad that people have been able to recreate and "save" those tables, but I would compare having a virtual version of it being like having a quartz digital watch vs a complex wind-up watch. Code can simplify the mechanical elements into just a handful lines of code and you can't re-create that experience.

[@billywright6107]

Big up for mentioning Bee, he's out here sharing like Vu, including the Mrs. one of like maybe 20 dudes I trust in this hobby.

[@arepa13]

Amazing build bro keep up the great work

[@wmx99]

I agree I'm not a fan of EM tables but I make an exception for the Christmas Vacation one :) The audio in it is hilarious.

[@wmx99]

You can setup your launch script with an alt launcher for the pup packs so it won't show duplicates in pinup menu. That way you can have just one table shown and when you go into it, have the normal launch option with pup pack, or move over one to use the alt launcher to use just B2S. Another advantage to that is you can keep all the files where they should be too. I used to move my B2S files to a different folder if there was a pup pack for it.

[@Vic_VP]

Oh nah I just use the vpalias so I have a nopup table and original table. Much easier IMO

[@wmx99]

@@Vic_VP right I’m just saying if you didn’t want duplicates, that’s also an easy option to do. Only two lines of script to add to the table and a modification to the launch script.

[@Vic_VP]

That's cool but sounds complicated lol. Either way works out tho 👍

[@wmx99]

@@Vic_VP Thats the nice thing about vpins and the community projects; you can fine tune whatever way you like.

[@EliEli-wb7hg]

Vic, great build!!! Qled will definitely help with darker blacks. Keep it coming!

[@Vic_VP]

def wanna try it! contemplating that or the 43inch 120hz 4k asus

[@TomWoodsAmp]

Great video appreciate all your work and time putting it together. 7 to 10 years ago I built around nine machines with three screen setup and wide body cabs. I have been thinking about getting back into it to build 4K and also add Quest VR to visual pinball in an all-in-one cabinet. This has really helped motivate me to get started on that and would highly suggest you take a look at the quest VR. Cheers

[@ThatGeekDude]

43:22 secret forbidden stuff right there in front of us 😀 Great vid btw, it makes me wanna go on with my build instead of watching other builds on yt 👍

[@Vic_VP]

Lmao

[@trennsayer]

Hey Vic, found your video, saw it was long but gave it ago as I'm trying to learn about the VPIN space, cudos to you, the info you gave was easy to absorb and think about for a newbie in the VPIN learning journey well done, actually very well done. I live in Australia looking to learn about what you are doing and clearly passionate about. Your table looks great, I was interested in your comments about not cutting cost corners at the cost of compromising performance. I absolutely have that view. Well done again, I hope you will be OK if I reach out again, I've subscribed so very interested in your next video(s)

[@Vic_VP]

Hey Trenn! Most Def bud I'm always available for questions. I'm currently building a duplicate of my cab so stay tuned. I post a lot on Instagram as well ;)

[@nerdbit84]

Great video, congrats on your build

[@mcpot1988]

Nice build! And i like the way you went thru your findings and liking during the process. Got 2 questions. Is the world cup vpx table aswell? Have only found vp9. Fx3 & fx2. Is that thru steam and cabinet mode or is there other ways?

[@Vic_VP]

Yes world cup soccer is vpx. Vp9 is old I don't have any of that on my pins. Fx3 and fx2 isn't steam, yes cabinet mode unlocked...

[@mcpot1988]

@@Vic_VP oK! did not found world cup when i searched before. Now i found the VPX for it. looks so much nicer. I got FX3 thru steam and nailbuster have a guide to add those so got curios how you have done it :) thanks for the answer!

[@wurly1100]

Glad to see my Flintstones pup pack made your pup packs playlist. And the pupshapes version too!

[@leodonnelly5427]

I love Flintstones table. Great job.

[@rodneyfitzgerald7392]

with your backglass stutter check to see if your have a game mode to your tv you should use it for all TVS GAME MODE gets rid of in put lag

[@Vic_VP]

Turned out to be a puppack thing. I dl a lower resolution version

[@KRIS__B]

OMF AMAZING WORK.I ENVY 💪💪💪💪 I have 2 questions, a request 1. Could you direct me where I can find the most, the newest 1080-4k DMD tables etc (I have a lot of tables but these are very old VP8,9 old FP tables)? 2. Same as above but 1080-4k pop packs tables The fact that I do not have the Pinball table yet because I am in the process of building the Arcade Machine, but after it is finished, I will start building the Pinball and for now the Arcade cabinet will be done for the pinball and more ;)

[@Vic_VP]

Vpuniverse is the best site Followed by vpforums I only use those 2 sites

[@KRIS__B]

@@Vic_VP Thank you. I knew it, I knew it, but I forgot: P Honorable Pages.

[@tdtrecordsmusic]

Cool stuff. Nice setup !! Thnx 4 the tour I got into VP9 years ago. Also was finding that the tables needed to be customized. Lucky if they worked. A b8ch to get playing decent. My trick was to go through the editor and just glance. Typically, I found duplicate art. Code was jumping all over the place & referring to non-existing items. eeekkkk . I just started deleting stuff and commenting out code(making sure everything still worked) until it ran good. I think it took 6 months to do 10 games. I grew up with 4 real tables in the garage, so if a virtual game lags there is no way I will play it. F that

[@molarmedic]

Having a lock down bar would add a more "real" look as well. and give you more room for your hands while playing. Also add coin door with working mechs.

[@Vic_VP]

Yea lock down would have been custom sized I didn't see a need for.coin mech / door. But I'm sure a customer would want one haha

[@molarmedic]

@Krntz Vods what is it I am buying?? As far as know I am not buying anything pinball related except from A1Up? I questioned about his builds...and if I DID buy from him.. it would only be the cabinet. So please Do NOT JUDGE ME. I am good and smart enough to know not to hurt the community, and I can do my own Vpinball programming. I just do not have the tools to build my own cabinet.

[@andycharger]

Great video. I am just about to start my own Virtual Pinball journey and would like to ask, the solenoids.....Are they linked to your button presses for the flippers and how realistic is the feedback through the table if they are? Thanks in advance man!

[@Vic_VP]

Thanks bud, solenoids r mapped via a ledwiz and sainsmart board and that then talks to doflinx. Doflinx tells the board when to activate the solenoid. Feedback is as real as it gets but that depends on the solenoid you get. Cheap solenoids don't cut it / don't thump like a real flipper

[@BillBene67]

I enjoy all of your videos.. Always great content. If I'm being honest, this thing looks gorgeous but I'd love to see a regular lockdown bar since they're not expensive and they'd look so nice on your machine asthetics wise

[@Vic_VP]

Appreciate it bud, it would have had to been a custom lock down bar then as my width isn't a standard wide body cab size

[@greghornbacher8079]

Great Looking Machine! I like your headboard setup. do you build them?. I would be interested in buying one. do you have your playfield monitor mounted flush with the glass? or you have it lowered a little from the playfield glass? couldn't tell from the video. thanks

[@Vic_VP]

Hey bud yes I have big plans to do this full time My PF is flush against glass

[@greghornbacher8079]

@@Vic_VP Cool! keep me posted when you start in business Thanks

[@Vic_VP]

@@greghornbacher8079 Def be sure to follow and subscribe. I'll always be posting vids and announcing it

[@TampaTec]

45:56 looks like the real deal, I have that real pin it's my favorite.

[@Vic_VP]

Thanks dude! Gotta give it to the 4k display for the realism

[@TampaTec]

@@Vic_VP I have 2 real pins but still play virtual pinball. Virtual pinball is great because if you have limited space you can still enjoy all the greatest pinball machines at the fraction of the cost and no maintenance.

[@DetroitLove]

Don't forget to make a backup of your image periodically so that you always have a good backup. You will always be making changes I recommend having more than one backup. But these should be full backups not incremental backups. The worst thing that could happen is where you lose all that hard work. Back up back up back up

[@Vic_VP]

Yup good point, I do it monthly

[@ruudwester2816]

Great video, and a great pinball machine you have. Got the same issue with the highspeed puppack. It’s a great table, so i hope the’re be a solution in the future.

[@Vic_VP]

glad im not the only one!

[@TNpsellers]

I had one PuP pack stutter so I simply converted all the pup videos in handbrake. Some folks reduce from 1080 to 720 that have the issue - I actually went to 480. Not much of a difference in appearance and packs play like butter.

[@Vic_VP]

@@TNpsellers ima have to research h this handbrake u speak of !

[@TNpsellers]

Oh, and I do all my packs the same to ensure smooth performance - no issues at all. I am not real big on them and prefer the original look of the table but folks like to see them. I keep a copy with regular backglass as well

[@TNpsellers]

@@Vic_VP It is very easy to use. While i use Handbrake a great deal for a multitude if video tasks (it is powerful) it is very simple to do the above tasks. After installing handbrake simply drag your video file to the app screen, select your resolution in the list on the right, enter “save as” filename and let it rip. You can queue multiple files and ket them all process while you do other things. The longest part of process is going through the Pup media folders to get all the vids. Take care

[@jonseeley8263]

so did you use glass or lexan or polycarbonite for the play field glass ???? looks like you just used some alum angle for the edges around glass ???

[@Vic_VP]

Plexi, customers can request glass but it will be an additional cost. Yes angled aluminum but it's not like home depot kind. Mine has a polished silver/ stainless steel finish. I have a guy that can make custom sized side rails... but stock pinball rails will not work as my cab is a little bit longer than stock.again customers can request real pin side rails but it will be additional cost

[@justimagine2403]

You can do these cheaper but get a nice playfield with a gulp nice graphics card. I load them all from the desktop... a bunch of extension cords and nice buttons and the keyboard. It is fine and I don't break the bank. Graphics cards are the WORST. Mine which I got pretty cheap is now listed on Amazon for $700+ what? Have fun. Awesome table! I play these when I want to wake up and do work. They are VERY stimulating. I can't play and go to bed for instance...

[@zesuperdimi]

i saw you have troubles with the getaway puppack, check in vpx video preferences , fps limiter/vsync and maximum pre rendered frames should be set to 1 not 0 , maybe that could fix your issue

[@Vic_VP]

I'll give it a go, many ppl suggest downscaling or running handbrake

[@zesuperdimi]

@@Vic_VP i've worked on this puppack ;)

[@davidlambert5008]

Nice i made mine too 3/4 2k playfield my only problem is the lockdown bar i went with the angle aluminium like you but the edges are too sharp how did you fix that ?

[@Vic_VP]

Used a polishing brush a smoothed it out to a round corner Amazon also sells a corner protector if you don't like that idea

[@jrami223]

Thats HUGE lol but dope I love when people do there own work and show it awesome job

[@MATT-qu3xp]

Hi I enjoyed your vid. cab looks great. I had the video stutter you have on getaway I resized the media using nailbusters program to 720p and works ok. might be worth doing. Its quick and easy to run. Also are your frame corners sharp without lockdown bar? If so I got around that by using flight case corners if you check out my vids you can see they dont look to bad and have a nice rounded corner.

[@Vic_VP]

Thanks for the tips, I will try that My corners are not sharp, I actually used a bench polisher to round out the corners :)

[@MATT-qu3xp]

@@Vic_VP Perfect, mine were sharp as a knife.

[@mosquitos777]

Great info and video

[@general23cmp]

Have you checked your frame rate with this setup on 4K? Graphics settings maxed? Trying to decide on a graphics card.

[@Vic_VP]

Yes I still have my setup and I hit close to 95fps on vpx..but fps isn't as important as the hz on your screen. My TV can only output max 60hz as it's a TV A 3060 or 2070/2080 are still ideal for 3 screen 4k pins

[@t.7380]

How does your random button work? I'm currently using a random playlist, but would love a button that picks and auto launches a table

[@Vic_VP]

hey bud, i dont have a random button nor do i have the random playlist, but from my understanding the random option is only via that playlist

[@t.7380]

@@Vic_VP Thanks for the quick response

[@billywright6107]

BAD ASS VIC

[@GenX_-um2ct]

Would love one in Dark Souls Motif

[@Vic_VP]

I sell them now so I can always make one ;)

[@KilllerPenguins]

Hey Vic_VP. Great video and has really helped out with someone new just getting into it. So much to learn and understand. My question is how can I go about getting FX2 since steam no longer has it available? There are tables I want that didn't transfer to FX3. Pretty much the ones you shared. I tried doing some research and either things weren't so clear or there were some torrent links but you don't know what to trust these days. So hoping you can offer some help on this. Thanks in advance and loving the content so far as a new person!

[@Vic_VP]

Surprised steam doesn't have fx2 anymore 🤔🤔 I'll have to research it

[@Vic_VP]

Looks valid, looks like you'll need to search online for an alternative;)

[@KilllerPenguins]

@@Vic_VP Thanks for taking the time to reply and check. Def a bummer when I found that out. Hard to find things to trust these days, LOL Def some great tables.

[@boboscurse4130]

Total noob here, trying to research. I'm looking at Virtuapin flat-pack widebody cabinet. Inside width is 23.25", which won't fit a 50" TV. I'm confudes.

[@Vic_VP]

Hey bud, I build arcades and pins. No standard flat pack will fit a 50 inch. I custom make arcades 🤘

[@boboscurse4130]

@@Vic_VP Ok. Bummer. It looks like they don't make 46" anymore.

[@Vic_VP]

Nope that's where I come in and sell cabs 🤘

[@MarchosArcade]

Not bad mate , I can relate on some topics , I still would like to get a few more tables I only have about 350 on mine , great video I sub you & another like

[@Vic_VP]

Thanks dude! It's not about the table count for me.... it's more about the actual likelihood you'll be playing those tables. What emulators r you running?

[@MarchosArcade]

@@Vic_VP all mine are vpx I like the original tables , there is a couple tables I'd like to add but yeah out of all the tables I have about 20 I always go back to playing , I just uploaded a few that I have been playing if you'd like to check that out My channel isn't huge just love playing pinball

[@Vic_VP]

Nice yours is like mine then, I'm at like 360 vpx I don't have any of those pre 1980 bells and dings tables... maybe a slight few but not many Ima check it out!

[@MarchosArcade]

@@Vic_VP no probs , cheers bro have a great day

[@THEJIG-IS-UP]

Hey it's the Yo MTV Rap guy

[@Vic_VP]

Wut?

[@edtignor4235]

This TV is 60hz, right? I've been killing myself trying to find a 120hz at a good price. I haven't built mine yet. Considering that the other components are capable, does it make that much difference from 120 to 60hz to justify the extra $300 or so in price?

[@Vic_VP]

See my recent update videos, I have a 50 inch qned now in my build Yes spent the extra money and get 120hz!

[@edtignor4235]

Thanks for the response. I've spent the last month looking at all the creator videos, forums, etc and you have been the most helpful. You give the standard "this will work" solution but then give your real life answers of what you like or would have done differently. I appreciate it!

[@Vic_VP]

@edtignor4235 haha appreciate it 👍🤘 yea experiencing a 60hz and now having 120hz is a huge difference. I'd invest and get that 120hz... but u also need the pc that can output that.

[@50footbrewery]

Is that a custom cabinet? Was it a kit , did you make it or is it a repurposed cabinet?

[@Vic_VP]

Check my other vids, completely custom. I cut the mdf myself. I'm planning to make kits for others

[@GaryStango]

It’s a good review, but it’s definitely not a build and guide. It’s a description of a finished and completely assembled product. A guide would be start to finish, or at least a breakdown showing hardware placement, wiring, internals, and steps taken to install/configure.

[@Vic_VP]

adjusted title :) thanks

[@GaryStango]

@@Vic_VP very nice build though! Are you on the discord?

[@Vic_VP]

@@GaryStango I'm not, never got into discord haha

[@gioser82]

My flipper error line 1 ....what is?? Tanks

[@Vic_VP]

Need more details, what emulator and watt table Only occurs on 1 table or all tables?

[@gioser82]

@@Vic_VP now my biggest problem is Pinball X because all the boards work if you try on visual pinball instead Pinball X gives me the already presentation videos they shoot and then gives me the line error on some tables like ironmaiden

[@Vic_VP]

Pinball x is old, go with popper you won't ever look back

[@gioser82]

@@Vic_VP exist giude for install popper....tanks 👍

[@brianguthrie9017]

Vic before you start offering for sale make sure you truly understand your costs. No way you only have $2.5k in materials. You listed 5 things that was way over before you even added in all the ancillary stuff like amplifiers, cables, and toys. Very nice work/

[@Vic_VP]

No sweat I know how to do business ;) Thanks bud!

[@chaigtin259]

@@Vic_VP Would you be able to offer an image of your drive for sale? My use-case is nVidia 3D Vision and VR which is quite different from what you're doing here, but time-wise it'd be very helpful to avoid needing to download so many things to get started.

[@Vic_VP]

@@chaigtin259 vr requires totally different vpx tables. My regular table would not work in vr

[@chaigtin259]

@@Vic_VP Thanks for explaining, now that I have got a few of the VR tables working with Visual Pinball X on an HTC Vive, I see what you mean, it's best to learn the settings for each table and get it set up to your liking, each one is quite different. I like TOTAR and Gone Fishing a lot. I'm wondering if there's a way to use the the Steam Controller's accelerometer as "nudge" instead of mapping to VPX's keyboard input keys, and if there's any way to control its "rumble" motor from VPX? I guess it's early days for the VPVR perhaps someone is already working on this kind of thing...

[@BeatsByMrSmith]

Where did you go to get your vpx files ?

[@Vic_VP]

I'm in a good 5 months of dl all my tables individually Vpuniverse and vpforums is only sites i use Way back use to be vpinball but they closed site

[@BeatsByMrSmith]

Do you have a list of your games or a zip file ?

[@Vic_VP]

For vpin not really as it's always constantly updated

[@jessehorta1512]

Beautiful pin …. Let me know if your selling… it will look great next to my wizard of oz and Willy Wonka pinball machines …

[@Vic_VP]

Yes starting September I will be selling these full time

[@scottlarmore5038]

@@Vic_VP definitely interested in getting one of these if you’re going to make them to this quality and sell them. Will you offer different side art options?

[@RandyWatson80]

What size is that playfield screen?

[@Vic_VP]

50inch pf, 32 bg, 22 dmd

[@peopleschampgarage7869]

Is that 2070 a requirement? Can I get away with a 1660?

[@Vic_VP]

I've put 1660 supers in other builds on my channel, check the other Simpsons build and the Disney build.

[@kiodiekin]

nice

[@Bobby11]

to be fair, at least someone is offering it all in one. sure its older version but it does sound completely ungrateful to trash his work like that

[@Vic_VP]

It's more about giving people a heads up that all in one downloads are a complete waste of time, for vpin its not worth the hassle; I won't get into the whole other issue which is all in one drives are a big no no Nothing in this hobby is all in one easy copy and paste, there's always work to be done. I got several emails about " oh wow you charge a lot... this site is all in one downloads so I'm going to go there." I understand your comment, but take it as more of a heads up/ my opinion and experience. Same with my statement about future pinball :) I didn't state the user's name or link his files either. Downloading 193 gb alone takes time. His file structure and 99% of the files where trash. Take it as me giving people a heads up... tables get updated frequently...s o you might as well sit and download each one 1 by 1 instead of assuming a all in one drive is easy peasy and done. Not to mention how many duplicates where on the file, b2s files not named correctly ect

[@DetroitLove]

I agree future pinball is not worth the time.

[@ShamanNoodles]

It came out sooooo good man I just got my software all together, well on my own journey now Future pinball SUCKS

[@dougtolley741]

You might want real a pinball lockdown bar on that or your palms will be bleeding in a minute.

[@Vic_VP]

Haha no my edges are sanded down and rounded. My pin would require a custom made lock down bar... too expensive

[@justimagine2403]

Yeah, no EM"s. Really nothing before 1980. Haunted House 1981... that is my oldest. Your demos were playing Pinball FX3 demos... not VPX.

[@Vic_VP]

I have all Playlists enabled in my popper attract mode, so it shows vpx, fx2,3

[@locked01]

It is spelled "emulator".

[@Vic_VP]

I don't understand your comment

[@newintowncable]

Too picky this man , this table is so awesome

[@Vic_VP]

Thanks bro!

[@Musha-Fyre]

sorry...I don't like puppacks..I like the old pinball machines..

[@Vic_VP]

That's fine, I'm not big on pup packs either. But I'm also not big on EM machines