Visa debate rages on, we get called the "woke right"??

[@chucknorris6640]

I am from a immigrant family I am 100% against the H1-B visa, we have enough Americans that can fill the jobs

[@Morlouda]

I agree. And I am both. My mom’s family has been here since the 1850s. My dad is an immigrant from Italy. Both the coal miners on my moms side and my dad who came here and worked 80 hours / week already sacrificed a lot for me and my children to live an American life, but what is an American life if we have to continue working 80 hours / week? Every generation will have to continue working like this?

[@Doomseer]

You're very smart because you're actually thinking about your children and your children's children's future.

[@Ravi-rl8tt]

Well, we don't want this great country looking like Venezuela. If you fled that failed country, at least don't try to turn this country into what you tried so hard to flee. We don't have enough Americans who can fill these jobs. My dad's friend has had a data architect role open at Amazon for 6-8 years and hasn't found anyone remotely qualified yet.

[@wizardoz3339]

But the Americans don’t have enough skills … stop H1B visas then see the American Multinationals falling

[@johncalla2151]

I'm a software engineer. Have been for 25 years. Elon is absolutely full of crap and he knows it.

[@ajayyyy]

Same here

[@NephaiX]

How is he full of crap? I'm curious. I'm not well educated about what is happening with this issue but I want to hear from people with skin in the game.

[@gauravbasu98]

Copium

[@flynnoflenniken7402]

@@NephaiX Also, I'm an American IT worker. I have skin in the game. This directly affects me.

[@arizonabay6231]

@@johncalla2151 i don’t get it. What did he do or not do?

[@rickysulimowicz4158]

Just because Musk likes working 80 hours a week most people don’t and that’s not a good standard to set

[@MajesticLawnGnome]

Musk working 😂 you mean playing diablo 4 guy acts busy but it’s hardworking underlings keeping the lights on!

[@niccage6375]

The last time elon wrote a single piece of code, Bill Clinton was still president

[@acornsucks2111]

@@MajesticLawnGnome Musk has forgotten more than you will ever know. You can't shine his shoes.

[@mendoza4789]

It's an abusive mindset 🤬

[@ajayyyy]

Exactly 💯. I would work 80 hours too if my salary was billions.

[@rflett5797]

Red Eagle Politics put it perfectly that these "immigrants", be it H1B or otherwise, view the U.S. simply as an economic zone, not as a country and culture to assimilate into. Elon and Vivek seem to have fallen into the same mindset and they should both stick to their original obejective of reducing government waste and not using their bully pulpits to push other unrelated issues.

[@verscarii3238]

It's kinda funny that the first time the US Right actually gives a group of migrants power they immediately try to force through more migration. Vivek just permanently ruined his presidential aspirations, he just proved all the people that didn't trust him correct.

[@Blitler88]

Usually with these “immigrants” they end up sending a lot of the money they accrue back home to India or wherever they came from as well.

[@TaintedTechnicalTips]

America is both a country and an economic zone, and forget about how your government turned the countries of the immigrants into economic zones, let them show us what it feels like for them to have their own culture denigrated by American tourists only there for the McDonalds in their capital city

[@iinred1954]

I don't trust them with DOGE anymore tbh

[@matpk]

@@iinred1954 BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@jl4056]

The 80 hour work week has been tried by Japan, and their birth rate and society is collapsing.

[@avipatel3775]

our birth rates are dropping with 40-hour weeks, so whats ur point?

[@iinred1954]

Not to mention suicide rates.

[@neverstop108]

No one is working 80 hours on h1 and offshore jobs.

[@xisigma]

Yup, corporations consuming people for money and greed.

[@cheesetomeetyou]

@@avipatel3775 it will drop more with that is the point

[@ORIONSTARGATE]

My job was offshored to India due to corporate greed, and my carefully measured productivity was above 150%, with a QA score of 100%. There was absolutely no other reason for me to be replaced other than they wanted cheaper labor. So yea this hits home HARD for me, and MANY others.

[@TheHarshWay]

You got replaced by a better worker. Nothing more.

[@matpk]

BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@ORIONSTARGATE]

@@TheHarshWay nice try.

[@douglasstrother6584]

H-1B visas have been a hot-button issue since the 80's when I was a member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and the American Physical Society (APS). This is a bad start to Trump's 2nd term.

[@patatasboy]

Yes....very very bad start.

[@maggots0007]

Trump isn't the President, Elon is. Besides, Trump stands with Elon.

[@1mol831]

It’s kind of clear musk is a libertarian not a republican

[@tlow1324]

@@1mol831 Libertarian?! Really?! Musk a full blown Globalist like the goods at the WEF!

[@deletenow3276]

​@1mol831 Which is good, but he should want to reform immigration laws.

[@tylerhatch8962]

Elon, we reject your corporate globalist vision.

[@Robc210]

What are you talking about Elon wants to hire foreign workers to pay them less why he is advocating for that visa crap

[@matpk]

BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP

[@Ravi-rl8tt]

Us 90s liberals don't. You guys barely won with our help. You owe us some thanks.

[@donnieblanko]

​@matpk Yes! Because it was STILL a better decision than to have voted for Comrade Kamala

[@CrusaderMuscle]

Agree. Musk mental state looks like it can turn volatile. I still predict an eventual breakup with Trump. Eventually the egos will collide.

[@DesignerDeveloper]

Good point 👉

[@Jwats96]

Hope so. Never liked Musk and I hated watching the right kiss his ass the last 6 months

[@huckleberryfinn8795]

These people are regarded. They basically want an open border. They are the woke.

[@plasmawarper5837]

Its antiWhitism

[@tylerhatch8962]

If by "woke" you mean that I choose the interests of the American people over the interests of billionaires then yes, I am woke. If you mean woke as in trans "rights" and socialism then no, not woke at all.

[@iinred1954]

They will whatever label to try to shame people. Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.

[@BlueSunnySky17]

I never really liked Elon Musk, I was happy he supported Trump but I was afraid of them becoming too close

[@matpk]

BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉😂

[@BlueSunnySky17]

@ thank god we got trump to be president again 🤠👏🏼

[@croqsieur]

@@matpk yeah I’m really glad we didn’t get cackling Kamala

[@bradyb2233]

It’s crazy he is saying people want handouts meanwhile his companies, literally all of them, would not exist without government handouts

[@AustrianPainter14]

Silicon Valley would not exist without government handouts and protectionism.

[@iinred1954]

Not to mention that $35 trillion in debt. Where did that money go ?

[@jonathansanchez8802]

Wake up people, it’s working class versus capital owning class. Has been for the longest time.

[@Wack373]

People in silicon valley do hard work with passion, okay? Some of us like working hard and building things. I’m compensated with $990k a year by the “capital owning class” 🙄

[@marcob2137]

Yet you people voted in a billionaire and his multi-billionaire, richest man in the world master.... 💅

[@goldspartan4858]

We're not gonna buy into cringe communism.

[@AustrianPainter14]

This isn’t working glass It’s software engineer

[@Straga_Severa]

People are amazed when they vote for one of two capitalist parties and get anti-worker ideas from them. Like, what did you expect? The fact that one of the capitalist parties is better than another does not mean that you won't be forced into 80hr working weeks.

[@shitpostingdragon2370]

Elon and the tech right need the budlight treatment.

[@frequencyreport]

Elon and Vivek are new Americans, they are looking out for immigrants. Why the hell is it so much to ask to look out for our own ppl?

[@Milesobrian]

Left hand right should be on the same side.When it comes to work visas and student visas, we should be protectionist.This is a labor question not ideological as in gay marriage.

[@TheoHawk316]

What shocks me the most is how people who claim to be for the working class are pro-immigration. Immigration hurts the working class the most!

[@elijahjarobi]

​@TheoHawk316theres nuance to the situation. The actual purpose is to steal the best amd brightest from other countries. This really does improve the economy. It only becomes bad when its abused.

[@Doomseer]

Nah the left are too busy pointing the finger and laughing at the infighting of the right to actually stand up and fight along side us for the working class. All they care about are their political sound-bites.. 😐

[@TheMediatorOfChaos]

Really glad you’re on the right side of this one, so many people are putting money before country.

[@nicb5557]

Because that's what makes a country grow

[@bienspasser9054]

How does wanting less engineers is on the side of the country?

[@yourdreams2440]

@@bienspasser9054 Number of engineers stay the same, difference is more of them are Indian and paid less.

[@DMAN590]

@@nicb5557 I wish you knew how sick of a perspective that is. I guess you must be real happy with all the "growth" aka Inflation our country has gone through the past few years and beyond?

[@AustrianPainter14]

@nicb5557 What does that even mean?

[@jdenoe69]

Repeal Hart-Celler, repeal Simpson-Mazzoli, and build the Wall!!! No more! The inn is full!

[@AustrianPainter14]

None of it will happen

[@plasmawarper5837]

Outlaw antiWhitism and affirmarive action

[@Dottor_J]

They showed their true colors. All I hear from guys like Trump, Vivek and Elon is "I don't care about the people, I need more indentured servants or my plantation will lose money". At least they caused an awakening of class consciousness in the right.

[@anonanon3112]

The big problem is letting in low skill, low integration labor. Nobody who's dealt with generic Indian tech workers has ever been impressed by the output, just the low cost.

[@law3344]

🎯

[@simemsayss4395]

Working 80hrs a week is dumb, lights bulbs were invented in 1879, before we only worked in daylight. We work too much...

[@richardt5472]

So disappointed in Elon and Vivek. Just look at Brampton, Ontario in Canada if you want to see where this leads.

[@manonamission2000]

Brampton, Prince Edward Island... have you seen footage of the malls?

[@avipatel3775]

The immigrants that come to Canada are not coming through a H1-B type of program. A lot of are coming to Canada through family ties which leads to massive amounts of people coming.

[@jimpurewal2661]

Those people in Brampton are not H1B engineers. Dumb comparison.

[@manonamission2000]

@@jimpurewal2661 Who said the H1-B program is purely for engineers?? It covers the gamut, including janitors, plumbers, Tim Horton workers.

[@sourabstyles3118]

H-1B's provided by the 'employers' . The applicant cannot get it on its own. It is totally different system how it is being portrayed in social media. The employers verify the applicants before allowing them into USA and 99.9% of H-1B'S are STEM graduates. First have some information first before speaking.

[@Quilt4Joy]

I’m American and I’ve worked many 80 hour weeks. Americans are hard working.

[@1mol831]

But they don’t have to

[@Quilt4Joy]

For some jobs, we Americans do have to work 80 hour weeks. It happens, and Americans do it, but please pay us to do it. My husband worked a lot of overtime. It’s how we were able to purchase our first home. And yes, we are both Americans.

[@nicb5557]

Back then yeah But now with everything going on If you look at the numbers people ain't talking about Gen z are being fired left right and center for not working in the jobs they join Face it Americans now are lazy

[@ORIONSTARGATE]

i truly call absolute bullshit that there are not enough talented Americans. there absolutely are.

[@Ironman374]

I was a truck driver for 8 years. Long story short. I received several unfounded violations. I proved my innocence in court beyond a shadow of a doubt with photographs and I was still forced to pay 1,000 dollars. Got so bad I had to hire a lawyer. He said the state of California (where I live) will target specific groups to generate more revenue to the state through citations. Right now the police are targeting truckers. So I completely lost faith in police and the justice system. Did a complete 180 career change and went through a software engineering program. Graduated in October and familiarizing myself with the coding process before applying for a job, and this H1B shit is now what I'm gonna have to deal with? Good lord, man.

[@iinred1954]

Not enough that will work in slavesque conditions and pay though. That's the problem , greed and bosses wanting a larger piece of the pie for themselves.

[@matpk]

@@Ironman374 BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@Reloading20]

Software engineer here, decade + experience working in big tech. Here's a couple of points to help you sift through the lies: 1. AI has nothing to do with this. Or most issues. 2. There is no shortage of engineers in the US. There is a massive surplus. Computer Science is one of the most popular majors and all tech companies are extremely selective with their hiring because they have hundreds of candidates to filter down for each opening they have. 3. There is no issue with the level talent in the US. There is a reason why companies haven't outsourced all of the jobs over to other countries yet, and it's not because our government is doing a damn thing about it. This all comes down to companies wanting to maintain a massive surplus of talent so that they don't have to raise wages across the board and engage in bidding wars with each other for top talent. This is all hillarious coming from musk especially, because his companies have terrible pay, not even taking to account the awful work culture they have. If he has any problem hiring people at tesla or x, it's because he pays them hundreds of thousands less than other companies do. Anyway thanks for speaking up for this issue and calling out the grifters in this movement. It's so sick to see how many right-wing commentators and politicians have absolutely 0 principles.

[@nitrium6599]

As a fellow engineer I concur. We have plenty of excellent talent right here! This is and always has been a money game.

[@matpk]

@@nitrium6599 BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@Frederick0220]

How did PBD never get arrested and go to prison for his pyramid scheme?

[@clintwestwood1895]

As soon as Trump announced Musk as one of his picks, I had a bad dark feeling creep inside, this just does not Feel right...

[@Doomseer]

Well unfortunately a huge percent of the blame for the fact Trump needed so much help to win such as Elon is because we live in a country where half the freaking population continue to vote for a party that has literally done nothing but bring ruin and chaos. I mean it took absolutely EVERYTHING Trump had just to pull of this victory and as a result he had to make deals with globalists and other bad actors.

[@imortalizer50k]

I appreciate you making the distinction in the country-cap and correctfully attributing it to the Green Card cap and not the H-1B. Indians eat up the H-1B cap time after time and its unfettered. If there was a country cap, that would actually be a good thing! Great analysis DG!

[@1mol831]

Why separate it by country?

[@benyang2427]

Disagree with Vivek...ever heard of this thing called Bollywood? Being a "cool" good looking person is highly valued around the world albeit in different ways depending on the culture/country. High beauty & social standards with regards to pop culture references are valued universally....not sure how this is a "uniquely degenerate" way of thinking exclusive to the US. Bringing in foreign talent is also a terrible idea right now seeing how the economy is at it's worst....

[@geminislayer3013]

sounds a lot like DEI but instead of race we are judging based off where you are from

[@SmoothGravy]

It's not even close, but it must be nice to be so simple.

[@sourabstyles3118]

Nowhere near that. H-1B's provided by the 'employers' . The applicant cannot get it on its own. It is totally different system how it is being portrayed in social media. The employers verify the applicants before allowing them into USA and 99.9% of H-1B'S are STEM graduates not truckers or anything else.

[@theresaward118]

LOST MYPAST 2 JOBS WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION TO NON ENGLISH SPEAKING

[@cbiii9327]

If you want Sanjay from Calcutta to work for you….because Chad from Macon GA, who Graduated from Georgia Tech with a Masters in Computer Engineering costs too much….and doesn’t want to work 79 hrs a week…..AND Sanjay is essentially your Indentured Servant.. Just say that….. These guys are an effing joke at this point. JFC MAN…

[@elim4129]

Wow, you just described me. I got that masters from GATech. Had to train some people named Sanjay in my career. You're spot on. A like from me.

[@DarthAndrex]

This whole debate is very eye-opening, to say the least.

[@marcob2137]

Sweetie, if it took you this long to see the obvious.....

[@Al_Street_612]

It’s Make America Great Again, not Make Elon Musk Richer Again.

[@matpk]

BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@ProfoundKrab]

If only you realized that before November

[@sandman9601]

When they call you "woke" you know that label hurt.

[@ronaldspencer547]

The engineering jobs for Americans began to dry up in 1995, about 5 years after the H1-b was created.

[@andrewwomble2722]

Trump needs to clarify that when he says America first, he doesn't necessarily mean Americans first.

[@jomckellan]

Just be honest, I agree. I'm either a citizen of a nation or an employee of the East India Company.

[@jwr2904]

Billionaires stick together

[@marcob2137]

It means, billionaires first, sweetie.

[@Bred-vz2py]

The fact that people actually think that a whole billionaire will care about their plight is both funny and pathetic.

[@matpk]

@@jomckellan BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@kristin4840]

My daughter graduated from Cambridge (US citizen). She wanted to work in Europe bc of her focus of study. The company she worked for told her they would get their lawyer to get her a visa. They dangled this in front of her for well over a year and had her doing the work of 4 people and then suddenly told her they wouldn’t get her a visa bc it was too expensive. She literally ended up in the hospital in London bc of the stress of it all and I had to fly over and get her bc she was too sick to travel alone. Hanging a visa over someone’s head is just a way to extort them

[@DianaNezi]

Elon is so funny "We need to be number one!! we need to beat China!!" Meanwhile, he does most of his business in China with Xi's blessing.

[@Fedko3037]

Other western countries get tons of vacation, pregnancy, and holiday time off. We work our butts off!

[@marcob2137]

That's what you people called socialism.

[@januarysson5633]

@@marcob2137 “You people”?

[@levacarvalho]

Americans are richer tho

[@GotrumpGousa]

We need to hire Americans

[@Bones08_02]

We need to drop the prices of education. Most American can't afford to get the education they need to qualify for these jobs

[@AustrianPainter14]

@Bones08_02 Why do you people keep spamming this meme? There are millions of tech workers already. So many are unemployed because they keep getting passed over for dots.

[@cheesetomeetyou]

@@Bones08_02 that isn't how it works. More competition is why barrier to entries go higher. More people with degrees will only devalue the degree and end up increasing the barrier to entry further i.e. needing higher and higher and higher and higher education for the same jobs

[@Bones08_02]

@@cheesetomeetyou I see your point. I'm not really familiar with all this I just thought what I posted but I didn't think of it the way you explained it. Indeed this is a fucked up situation all around

[@matpk]

BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@marcusantoninus1838]

If your first thing to say when coming into office is how you can help a foreigner, you have no place in an administration.

[@TruSciencePro]

Trump needs to come out and give a statement about this.

[@avipatel3775]

Already did

[@januarysson5633]

He did and pretty much sided with Elon. 😓

[@Basedzoomerr]

He did he’s elons lap dog

[@kate2create738]

A publication was made from a newspaper, but personally I want it from his mouth.

[@matpk]

@@kate2create738 BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@Alpha_fitz]

The reason those countries do better is because they are miserable their living circumstances are terrible and they're willing to do anything to get a better standard of living

[@patatasboy]

Hi DG...i am with you when we were fighting for Trump/Vivek/Elon. I am still with you now fighting against Elon/Vivek.

[@avipatel3775]

Trump supports it too, so ig you should be fighting against him as well.

[@sourabstyles3118]

Trump just supported it😂😂

[@matpk]

@@avipatel3775 BUT YOU ALL VOTED FOR President ELON AND VP TRUMP YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR 🎉

[@mitch6962]

The thing to understand is there is a hierarchy of ideals. Meritocracy is good, but only within the framework of nation first.

[@ORIONSTARGATE]

WORKING 80 HRS A WEEK IS NOT RIGHT FOR ANYONE - AMERICAN OR NOT.

[@tubularbill]

Totally agree. Screw the GDP. We need to protect Americans.

[@Dayvid85-s4o]

The h1b system needs to stay away from other jobs like truckers

[@manonamission2000]

too late... that's been a thing for the past several years

[@jomckellan]

There are H1Bs in every industry nowadays. Companies love their indentured servants.

[@sourabstyles3118]

H-1B's provided by the 'employers' . The applicant cannot get it on its own. It is totally different system how it is being portrayed today. The employers verify the applicants before allowing them into USA and 99.9% of H-1B'S are STEM graduates not truckers or anything else.

[@almightypain1307]

Indians are in tech..

[@The_Darkest_Black_Pill]

Tyson Chicken is an excellent example of how immigrant visas really work... they love using H-1B and H-2B employees at their new super facility, the one that they built after closing 4 other processing plants and citing "falling demand" in order to immediately lay off all the Americans who were employed in the positions that were relocated for foreigners. One town lost 1/8th of it's total jobs due to that. They're proud of it, they say soo right on their company website! It's all about the cheap servants and the WOTC.

[@DR_927]

1.6billion Indian and 1.4billion Chinese, need to stop this

[@1mol831]

😂

[@Wack373]

What do you mean “stop”?

[@jomckellan]

@@Wack373 I guess he means nukes or a bio weapon?

[@Blitler88]

@@jomckellan Based

[@avipatel3775]

What exactly are we stopping?

[@ORIONSTARGATE]

billionaires lose touch with reality.

[@racheljohara91]

Guys, (insert description of O-1 visa) is why you should be fine with H1B visas and want more of them. If you think it's corrupt you're, you guessed it, rrrrrrracist.

[@kate2create738]

Good summary.

[@marcusantoninus1838]

The r word has lost all significance.

[@Anonymous-lf9ct]

Can we get a list of companies that offshore/bring in H1Bs? We need to prioritize American-owned and run businesses.

[@iinred1954]

This. If Americans really want this to stop. They need to boycott all companies that do this. Putting your trust in to the government to do anything like this is amazingly stupid. Especially knowing they want this and are supremely corrupt.

[@saranggawane4719]

Amazon, Meta, Cognizant, Ernst Young, Microsoft, Apple and Infosys. Please try replacing these companies, I’m curious how you do that.

[@willf3556]

STEM degrees were considered to be one of the last safe degrees you could get to secure a job in this changing economy. It is now under attack along with the others.

[@2joof]

lovin the coverage on this, keep it up brotha

[@theresaward118]

READ THE EXACT PROBLEM IN CANADA AND SEVERAL YEARS THE CANADIAN NATIVE POPULATION NO MORE INDIA IN CANADA THE INDIA ARE OVER POPULATION OF FOREIGN INDIA COMING IN CANADA NATIVE CANADIAN DEMAND NO MORE

[@hihowareyouhihowareyou4500]

Most Indians in Canada are not on H-1B visas so that’s not fair comparison

[@sourabstyles3118]

H-1B's provided by the 'employers' . The applicant cannot get it on its own. It is totally different system how it is being portrayed in social media. The employers verify the applicants before allowing them into USA and 99.9% of H-1B'S are STEM graduates. First have some information first before speaking.

[@optimal8155]

Elon and Vivek want to import the Indian caste system.

[@RK-ox2zp]

Elon can take Tesla to India since they have all the brains 🥴🥴🥴

[@zilefn9212]

Musk just tweeted it's both necessary and easy to fix H-1B - raise financial threshold and set annual maintenance cost for H-1Bs so they become more expensive than domestic labor. Scott Adams just tweeted this is fantastic - the whole issue got aired, openly and passionately discussed and compromised on by all sides, in a week or so. Steve Turley agrees and says the best thing is this was all done transparently and online, entirely without any input from the legacy media, who were rendered impotent spectators on the sidelines. Adams and Turley are right, in my view.

[@acornsucks2111]

Much ado about nothing.

[@Basedzoomerr]

Elon was forced to cave his original position was literally mass legal immigration we aren’t gonna forgive and forget on this the mask is off maga was a scam trump drastically under performed his promises his first term and it’s clear he’s gonna do the same thing this term we aren’t going along with this anymore we will get the nationalism we voted for or we will abandon trump

[@kate2create738]

I really wish this is a matter that is purely settled, the issue I have now is how both Elon and Vivek exposed their real thoughts of us and it’s ugly. This has made me question if we can trust them if they think of us so lowly after all the support we gave them. Would have been better if this proposal came first, but no it was demeaning our culture, calling us lazy, not intelligent enough, and we don’t have enough skills to fill in the jobs. Down to accusing us of being woke right, propping up the left to stick that label onto us after the years of abuse we’ve gotten from that ideology. And of course down to the race card. Typical. They are no better than the left, actually the left at least were honest coming up to the election. So I deem them more cowards at this point.

[@iinred1954]

When need to see how much China and India have bribed people to hire their people into these positions. We know China pays Joe Biden for shit like this.

[@marcusantoninus1838]

Not settled. You can't think America is a sports team, and has foundational errors in its culture, and get away with it. Immigration has been the Crack coke of politicians for the past 60 years, if you think suddenly the system won't be abused, that is beyond naive.

[@Frederick0220]

Totally agree. 80 hours a week is insane. Causes major stress, high blood pressure, and depression

[@tjphoenix1908]

These immigrants are leaving a bad taste in my mouth....

[@elhombredeoro955]

Stop blowing them!!! Duhhh!!!

[@avipatel3775]

@@elhombredeoro955 🤣

[@jre2775]

We need an overhaul of our immigration that empowers enforcement officials, simplifies the process and put Americans FIRST.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

I do agree with Vivek that our culture needs massive overhauling in academics and we idolize the wrong things as our priorities are warped, however that does not mean we must import replacements. If India is so brilliant then how come their technology pales in comparison to ours and their overall sanitation is 3rd world in status? Why is it we lead the world in space and ocean exploration? Although our universities have become a trash heap, they are still the most elite on the global stage and the majority of the world's top scientists are Americans, so there is that.

[@neverstop108]

You do know that a lot of what is achieved in US is because of immigrants, right? And coming to India, India gained independence only 75 years ago and were left with lot of problems by the British - the loot, the improper partition, killing literacy, creating religious rifts etc. Still India is doing a lot better what people expected us to do. Even now US doesn't leave a chance to either stunt our development or backstab us by supporting our enemies from behind.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Yes some of Americas achievements have been inspired or advanced with the help of immigrants as Albert Einstein comes to mind, however EVERY advanced civilization progresses through the ages with trade, internal uplift and natural migration, however Indians did not help us win the space race and advance the microchip, sorry dude. Also, blaming the white man is a old tired excuse which carries zero weight. Every nation or people have been brutalized to some degree in history however that is no excuse for today. Japan had two atomic bombs dropped on then but where are they now? Germany lost both World Wars yet has one of the most reboust economies in the world. Saudi Arabia has been meddled with by most former colonial powers yet are a major player on the world stage. Blaming others is about as ridiculous as blaming the current state of Great Britain due to the enslavement and fall of the Roman Empire. Again America's fate does and will not depend on importing Indians or any other groups. If those groups were so great on a massive scale their economies and societies would be reflective of such.

[@Oo_Shade_oO]

We call it, 🦅AMERICA 🗽 FIRST! 🇺🇸

[@duglife2230]

"Sorry kid, America First wasn't part of the deal."

[@avipatel3775]

bro he hasn't even been inaugurated yet 🤣 stop jumping to conclusions before they even have a chance to shine. this is exactly what Democrats want and will point out later in the years to point out "incompetency". all this bickering over small issues will lead to nowhere.

[@Doomseer]

Trump hasn't even taken office yet, don't you think we should wait and see what he does before swallowing the doomer pill. You people are so reactionary it's absolutely insane, now if Trump does uncap the H1B1 visas then by all means stage a revolt but until then let's wait.

[@Jasmin-n1n]

I can't believe Trump is allowing this to happen with Elon.!!!!! 😠😠.

[@1mol831]

Trump is in fact a billionaire too

[@ajayyyy]

Trump said he agrees with this shit too

[@jeffreysmith9837]

​@@ajayyyyElon is walking back his stance and Trump hasn't made any statement. Unless you blindly believe the NYPost

[@sourabstyles3118]

​@@jeffreysmith9837just check his truth social post.

[@jeffreysmith9837]

@sourabstyles3118 there is nothing there. A screenshot of a pro-America Elon tweet is not a clear stance on anything. Trump has not made any statement yet. He should, but he hasn't.

[@xyzl5248]

On the narrative of "talent shortage" by big techs (with the manpower forecasts by these firms to the Feds), the Trump admin should check and challenge these shortfalls and get them to hire Americans that meet their min job reqts, failing which they should charge in court for lieing to govt on falsified labour shortage. I bet these firms' HR managers will revise the forecast numbers frantically.

[@maseratimitch2024]

I went from not liking Elon, to respecting and appreciating him, to not liking, appreciating, or respecting him. And that was the last straw. Don’t care what he does from here on out. I’m permanently anti-Elon

[@chris3325]

Not only would they like you to work 80 hrs. They will figure a way to keep you from getting overtime. I would be fascinated to see the data on what percentage of salaried employees are being paid within a few dollars of the minimum yearly salary.

[@TheBoyzTurf]

Wow this was a fire take

[@TheEzzyMaster]

If Trump had lost, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. The conversation would be about how many millions of illegal immigrants would get amnesty.

[@jwr2904]

No one cares now, now we know we're truly screwed either way

[@PO-nb8qc]

H1B is limited to 65000 per year. The illegals are unlimited. Some H1B visa are abused but some are not.

[@throwawayaccountwithbigplans]

@@jwr2904 Its a bot. THey leave that comment on every video concerning h1bs

[@Basedzoomerr]

@@PO-nb8qcare you not paying attention Elon and Vivek specifically said they want to dramatically increase the cap on h1b that’s what started this entire debate they literally want mass immigration just “legally” this “lesser of two evils” mindset is destroying America the gop needs to earn our votes not merely be better then Dems that’s not enough we have to stop settling for crappy service from our public servants

[@iinred1954]

​@@throwawayaccountwithbigplansDoesn't mean it's a bot. They could just be trying to get the "word" out or their opinions shown. The post isn't wrong.

[@mastertj99999]

Why force someone to work 16 hours a day when you can just hire two people to work 8 hours a day and not pay overtime...

[@iinred1954]

Or pay them an American wage that is called for with the position.

[@victor________]

These billionaires should perhaps donate some money to technical schools to make it easier for Americans to fill these jobs

[@Jasmin-n1n]

Competition is an OBSESSION to Musk. He is so bad for this country for this Type of Mentality. I pray, Trump sees this!!!! 😳

[@AlwaysWeird-g8k]

That’s DEI employee talk.

[@MakingMoneyGreatAgainNews]

DEI on the right , I never thought that I would see the day.

[@MakingMoneyGreatAgainNews]

It was never about free enterprise for the loomer/bannon crowd - more like racial purity , using American non-whites as a human shield

[@cindyb8504]

I think Musk is already backtracking. Vivek as well…

[@MakingMoneyGreatAgainNews]

@ that is bannon bs . Trump has told everyone to cool it as it proving a distraction and giving the dems who were all but out a huge gift. Trump came down on the side of Elon but Bannon because of pride and maybe jealousy of elon is basically challenging trump's leadership as the head of the MAGA tribe . Very sad indeed. They should have just let Musk flame out on his own . Now Trump is a prideful man and will think that he has to show Bannon, Loomer et al who is boss. Everyone loses . What a distraction with much bigger fish to fry. Looks like Bannon wants to 'burn the MAGA house down' if he does not get his way, and he can't unless he wants to Politically wound trump and publicly undermine his authority

[@KulturKampf777]

Excellent analysis

[@angrychickenyt]

if Trump keeps this up he's losing half his base.

[@Featheryfaith7]

It smells stinky. Oh wait, that is Elon Musk.

[@John-qi9cj]

american citizens first. period

[@charliedallachie3539]

Musk also facilitated the Tech layoffs (first to do it and CEOs followed suit), he also is the first to preach RTO (CEOs follow suit) …Musk is not for the common worker. Just corporate interests Next he’ll say we shouldn’t get any benefits at all, no holidays and ….they’ll follow suit. I used to respect the guy but his views are all over the place and lately not for the middle class workers.

[@BoldandBrash69]

“Woke right” is an oxymoron

[@kate2create738]

The freaking nerve Elon has to be obsessed with why the population is declining yet doesn’t have the brains to compute that it correlates with the standard of living! You can raise a big family working 80 hours a week! You’re lucky to even be able to live, we’re a country not a site for being a revolving factory! He should know better cause this is why three critical Asian countries that have those extreme hours, China, South Korea, and Japan are in a major population collapse. Never want to hear him complain about population decline, ever. We want to FIX our country, not become Asia, we love Asia but we are not Asia, we are AMERICANS. We have the talent, the skills, the brains, and what these elites hate is how we actually just want to be paid for it. Essentially they want to bring back slavery.

[@avipatel3775]

Even with 40-hour weeks, the birth rate in America is dropping significantly. the reason is that both men and women have careers now so its nearly impossible to baby sit or raise kids without sacrificing ur career

[@jaynemurphy8400]

Our culture also enjoys sports and other activities and some believe in academics 24/7. My daughter had attended a competitive high school with mostly Chinese and Korean kids, most 1st gen. She came home feeling disappointed in a grade she'd just received. (It was a 92 or 93). I was confused and said that it was an A and I asked why didn't she feel happy and proud. She told me that it was an "Asian A". I told her that she isn't Asian. She's American. I explained that they additionally take weekend enrichment classes all year long. We play sports and do other things on weekends. Different cultures. Hopefully, the pressure was lessoned.

[@jaynemurphy8400]

Forgot to mention, she's now grown up, a lawyer married to an engineer who was laid off and struggling to find another job.

[@Dominik21926]

80 hours for that salary they want to pay is crazy! Feels like slavery!

[@npc-uk2ew]

Elon and Vivek especially went mask off

[@Krisbcream1]

I’ve been staying pretty neutral on this issue cause I can see this all blowing over as soon as something else hits the news cycle

[@iinred1954]

It isn't "blowing over". This will stay for the rest of Trump's term and can absolutely ravage his popularity among his base.

[@marcusantoninus1838]

This ain't blowing over. Immigration has and will be the number 1 issue in all Western countries. They let the mask slip too far and we see them for what they are. I don't think Elon or vivek can do anything to come back from this.

[@elim4129]

They'll try to divert from this, but I'm sticking to it. Just like Healthcare. We need to stay on both!

[@Marella2024]

I think that you hit the nail on the head. These company can totally hire Americans, they must make profit for the shareholders by any means necessary. So they could care less about native born America workers.

[@tlow1324]

It’s all just hot air. This has been going on since the 1970’s. Same issue, different timeframe.

[@Marella2024]

@tlow1324 So, it's actually not "hot air" if it's an on going issue. You admitted that will your own words.

[@TheWayItWasDomestically]

You are really doing a good job on this topic. I think Trump/Elon should influence Congress to transform the green card h1b/h0b program into strick educational testing program to received citizenship and at the same time, get America schools to teach born-citizens to learn about mechanical hand skills, engineering and business contracts.

[@americansmark]

Steelvw Bannon and Andrew Breitbart had a vision. This isn't it.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

America 1st should not be hard for them to understand and accomplish.

[@THELASTOFTHEX]

No one said that TRUMP was perfect.HOLD THE LINE.

[@Doomseer]

Yeah I think all the people abandoning him before he even takes office shows they were simply looking for an excuse to do just that. How about let's actually wait and see what he does before denouncing the man, seriously people are so unbelievably reactionary nowadays that they'll jump ship the second things start to get a little rocky.

[@theresaward118]

The reporting on CANADIAN natives never use racist word

[@yusted1]

Again. Elon should focus on doge

[@fahrgast237]

You are so right DG! Thank you! Listening intently. BTW Michael Savage has a lot to say about this issue.

[@obscureintruder7807]

Vivek made a crappy comment and started all this. Then Elon came out like a crude 2016 Trump telling maga to "f" themselves. Joe Rogan said his problem with Trump was how unpresidential he was with bashing people. I wonder if Joe Rogan will feel the top adviser to the president should show more restraint. I acted emotional over all this cause I was not political until the tech slobs made me believe. I am sore and I guess a vote is not a voice. but I hate it being reported that there was a debate on the subject like fox news keeps saying. this was shoved down our throat like a bill before Christmas.

[@spacecadet7606]

The tech slobs want you to feel bad and ashamed for fighting for your own voice and what’s best for you at the table. Don’t let them. Any time they start pivoting to calling you lazy, woke right, and low IQ, it’s because you’re right and they are trying oh so hard to stamp this mindset out of the American worker. They’re machine men. Machine men only care about what’s best for the machine.

[@itsNRC]

Do a show with Nick Fuentes, Stew Peters & Zach Hubbard you’d break the internet

[@MohammadHasan-g8m]

Since 1980’s India has created an industry that can supply USA and other western countries with office and managerial needs as their sole structure of their economy. The education system is their to create high skilled migrant worker to replace Americans. If instead of IT, USA required more accountants, bankers then India would reshape their structure. The entire Indian system is to supply mid level employees to the USA. And There are 1.6 billion of them

[@iinred1954]

Yes , globalism and bribery.

[@MUSSOLINIAN]

Ill be the one to say it. People are going to have to learn that you can’t be both a patriot and a capitalist. Either capital rules or the people rule. You can’t have both

[@Fedko3037]

You are correct Ginger!