Don't Buy THIS Small Rig Battery For CANON Cameras

[@mikaelholz]

It's hard to find creators who "step back" and goes "hmm, actually this wasn't that great". Thanks for the video, saved me from going cheap!

[@KJ-yq5gm]

I totally agree

[@dannubt]

let's do the math, canon 80$ almost 2:30h of video shooting, smallrig 2x40$=80$ almost 4h of shooting. if it's the only problem "working time" with smallrig, and other problems don't appear during exploitation, I don't think the batteries are bad

[@JaredHoyman]

Its not always cost, but value and the value comes in when shooting events and not having to change out batteries as frequent in fear of missing a moment. That could cost a lot more than the difference in battery price. I will keep one as a backup when I'm in a pinch though because the usb-c can come in handy.

[@ccjh0806]

LOL STUPID NOBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT STUPID SHIT TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO BUY SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU CANT EVEN GET AROUND HOW TO USE THEM LOLLLL😂

[@WeeBurnip-lz3fr]

The point is they're sold under false pretences. Ie, the capacity is not what's stated by the manufacturer.

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

@@JaredHoyman Value? 50% of the cost for 80% of the power...that is great value.

[@Rothgor]

Hi. I picked this battery up earlier this year so this video raised my curiosity. I tested the SmallRig battery immediately after fully charging it in a Canon charger. At ~500mA constant current discharge (I think this is reasonable) over about 3.5-4 hours I was able to get 2053mAh (compared to 2400mAH claimed on the label). Now, I wanted to compare this to a Canon LP-E6NH so I took one of those I've had maybe 1.5 years and tested it at the same ~500mA. The result was 1886mAh (less than the SmallRig! and the 2130mAh rating on the label). Result: The Canon battery delivered ~89% of rated and the Smallrig ~86% of rated. I'd say subjectively that this is fine for me. Disclaimer: This does not account for different discharge curves at higher currents, but for just photos (not video) overall current draw shouldn't be too high. Additional tests at 1A-3A current could help reveal more too but I don't have the resistors on hand for those tests.

[@diggermolly5927]

Thanks for being honest with us and giving the truth about your purchase and trial use. I wish more you tubers had the same ethical standards. Please continue to make more mistakes so that we may learn!!!

[@neostephens8980]

Well, I would say, since it's almost half the price of the Canon battery, you basically come out the same (it's not like you paid the same or more as an OEM battery) IJS. But to each their own.

[@JaredHoyman]

I looked at it that way. I also looked at it from a production standpoint and an extra 30min on a battery can save you time from swapping out batteries or missing a shot at an event like a wedding.

[@atlasbesikniyo8753]

The USB-C option on the battery would be useful to use in older cameras that don't support direct charging via their usb port.

[@NagraVideo]

yes, my small rig battery is also running about the same compared to canon. canon batteries last a long time. I have one which came with canon 30d in 2007 and one in 5d mkiii in 2012 , still going strong. My after market BM battery's 5 years old and getting about 60% less shots than canon on my new R6 mkii.

[@openskyphotography]

What's appealing about this, however, is for things like backpacking for landscape photographers. If for whatever reason my batteries drain faster than usual, and I don't have enough (really cold weather, extra time shooting, etc., at high elevations), to have a battery I can charge just a bit in such situations is huge. Even if it has half the juice the Canon battery does, it would be a godsend. So for situations like that, I think it'd be worth it.

[@Loftikaz]

it's very rare to see a KZbinr tell truth about gear and not be a sellout to sponsors. keep it up

[@spyder000069]

I pick up a 3rd party battery for messing around. This way I can abuse it and leave it sit charged and not care about the degredation over time. I can deep cycle it, let it get hot, etc. Then I have oem batteries for anything I don't want to take a chance on.

[@dylanwang8613]

Thanks for making this video. Looks like no third party batteries are better than the original one.

[@willapanews9761]

I used wasabi brand batteries for a couple years in one of my Nikon cameras and authentic Nikon batteries in my other Nikon camera. When the weather temps get below freezing my Nikon camera with the wasabi brand batteries stops working after being out of my camera bag and in the below freezing temps for about 15 minutes while my Nikon camera using Nikon batteries keeps on taking photos with no problems.

[@chucknorris8704]

I stopped using batteries altogether. I use a dummy battery usb c powered using a 20,000mah power bank to power my R6 for all day use. Works great, and less overheating too.

[@wilismatrix9847]

I think the best solution for power is to use a cage and external PD batteries, that will definitely will last far more than the original battery, only the weight will be a little bit more.

[@satyamgupta847]

Can we use 5d mark 4 batteries in r6 mark 2 ?

[@JaredHoyman]

Yes. It’s the same battery.

[@raredreamfootage]

What about cost per battery life?

[@JaredHoyman]

@@raredreamfootage for some camera it could make sense. Right now for canon r5 II they only accept the new lp-E6p battery to unlock the full features.

[@rayanmattar8821]

Thank you. I was about to buy this product. But you just saved me😅 i will go for a canon one . Thanks again

[@blackbugmedia]

I have the SmallRig LPE6NH battery WITHOUT the USBC port. It lasts just as long as a Canon battery. It comes with a charger that has USB-A and USBC port on it but it’s not a true Power Delivery usb-c, so it charges very slow. Still, it hasn’t let me down yet. I have no idea about the longevity tho. I’ve only had it for couple of months.

[@mvp_kryptonite]

If anyone can Canon can. All my 3rd party batteries are for emergency use and never had to use them in that scenario since OEM are so good

[@nuclear64_]

Yeah I can see that. I bought 2 of these and I love them strictly for on the go charging. When I travel I charge them with a power bank in my backpack and i love them for that. But I would never buy them thinking they are better than the canon ones.

[@jacobleetech]

So the batteries could actually be the claimed size (which I think they probably are) but the battery management circuitry could be much less efficient due to lower quality components (why they can make a profit with $39)

[@wenjiun88]

do your camera get blank screen while photo shooting and can't press anything until you remove battery and put it back in? My R6 mark 2 got that problem. My friend said is because of battery but even original Canon Battery had that issues.

[@JaredHoyman]

Yes. View finder will work but lcd screen is on but black. I would have to tap info several times turn it off and then back on. Sometimes opening the sad card slot while on and shutting would do it too. I wonder if that was a firmware update glitch.

[@wenjiun88]

@@JaredHoyman thanks for replying! you had that problem while using Small Rig Battery or Genuine Canon Battery as well?

[@JaredHoyman]

@@wenjiun88 genuine OEM. Happened after the last firmware update.

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

As long as they're safe to use in the camera, 80% of the charge for 30% of the price (that's exact on Amazon in the UK at time of writing) seems like it's hard to knock, misleading capacity numbers or not.

[@robertbohnaker9898]

Thanks Jared for that clarification. I noticed you talked more about ease of recharging as opposed to actual field use in the initial video. Thanks.😊

[@bruceleonard3096]

I was excited when I head about these batteries but the reviews were terrible. I’ve purchased BM Big Mike) LP E6NH batteries from Amazon for three years. I’ve used them in my R5 and marked the dates. They’ve performed the same as the Canon batteries and are still going strong three years later and are only $26. They act the same as the original as I shoot a lot of wildlife at high fps settings. Thanks for the follow up on these Small Rigs.

[@JaredHoyman]

That's good to know. I'll have to look into those.

[@markwiemels]

Just a heads up. I have seen a number of people make this observation with 3rd party batteries in the past, and some of them have come back and said the battery life of the battery is better after they have used it for a number of weeks. I have no idea why that would be, but I have seen a number of people make this statement. I can't find any information about Lithium batteries getting better after a few charges or anything.

[@JaredHoyman]

I appreciate the comment. I haven't heard that, but now I'm curious how I could test that theory out more scientifically and compare it to a canon battery over time. I like the idea of having a direct usb-c connection to the battery on the go where you could charge it in your car. It hard to go wrong with the price too. Thanks for mentioning this Mark.

[@markwiemels]

@@JaredHoyman I think to do it really scientifically would involve abusing the camera by running long videos over and over, which would probably end up giving you some hot/stuck pixel issues. If you just brought one into the rotation and used it for a month, then compared when it was new to one month old, it would probably be enough. Just keeping it under the Amazon return window. Could even buy a new Canon and SmallRig, and test them both new and in a month.

[@JaredHoyman]

@@markwiemels that's not a bad idea.

[@Eric-kl7mg]

Honestly speaking, the batteries with USBC still overrun cannon ones if they support 2A as input current value. For directly plugging in Cannon R6, the USBC input has to be 5V3A, requiring a power bank to support the voltage and current values. However, in my experiences the majority of power banks cannot support these values though they claim they can. Ones that do support these values are relatively expensive. As a sport filmmaker, third-party ones are still ideal options since the continuous shots do not need to be very long allowing me to change batteries when the operating one is dying. (Just some personal opinions)

[@maf11300]

It figures. When you add the charging in the battery there is less space for battery. The same would be true if Canon did the same unless using a different type of battery cell. Thar being said, Smallrig should state the proper power rating.

[@vasiliss3597]

I'd be quite surprised if Canon was to implement the USB-C charging at their batteries. USB-C charging addition means that in the same size of battery, part of it would be used for the charging circuit. Thus, less space for the cells which equals less capacity.

[@JaredHoyman]

You’re probably right about compromising cells. I have 3rd party chargers that are usb-c that charge my canon oem batteries just fine on the go in my car. Worst case you charge through your camera via usb-c.

[@FinalConsensus]

Just watched your initial review on it 😅 glad I saw this

[@broti]

8 to 9 houses a day... wow, tough! 👍

[@JaredHoyman]

5 a day is where I usually limit it with my calendar, but i had a few agents contact me directly, and all 8 happen to be in town. Like they say..."make hay while the sun is up"

[@joncothranphotography9375]

I really had my hopes up for that battery for travel. This would have been a great solution for a problem that I found while researching African safaris. Many guide services only offer USB charging in your tent and this would have been a good solution. Thanks!

[@JaredHoyman]

You can still buy and use it but your battery life will not be as good as a canon oem version. The compromise is quick access to usb charging.

[@joncothranphotography9375]

@@JaredHoyman Yeah. I was thinking that, should I get to go on safari, I would get them. It's better to have less power than no power...

[@cooloox]

I use a brand called Jupio. They work just the same as the Canon batteries (charge in the Canon charger, charge in-camera and show the battery level on the camera). They seem to last 'at least as long' for photography, and in Australia at least, they're half the price of the Canon batteries.

[@lengt001]

USB-C option in the Canon Battery would be nice. One than can charge them in the field with a powerbank. Tnx for this video.

[@Michael_Anthony05]

When it comes to cages and video heads they make awesome stuff,

[@JaredHoyman]

I agree!

[@shawnlabranche6852]

Thank you for testing it. Now I know to stay with the Canon batteries. Even though I had some third party batteries from my 60D days 😅.

[@stubones]

I bought the Neewer LP-6NH 3 battery plus charger pack. I'd rather do that once a year than fork out £300 every 2 years for OEM.

[@joseacarrasm]

Great 👍 to know that you retest the battery. Maybe for the sake of helping others maybe you could add a comment to your other video linking to this one.

[@JaredHoyman]

Good point!

[@meanmarine24]

The problem is that different current draws give different total mAh counts depending on the cell design. Two different "1500mAh" cells may both give 1500mAh total when drained at 0.1amps, but when that is ramped up to a 1-2 amps, it may be only 900mAh for one and 1400mAh for the other. Camera batteries are unfortunately designed right at the edge of their drain/heat rates, which is great for high capacity in a small package, but then when you go beyond simple photo shooting it falls apart in performance. Comparing a Canon 1865mAh 7.2V battery vs a racing drone 1800mAh 7.4V Li-Po battery, the capacity is roughly the same, but the racing drone battery is rated for a higher current draw. Way higher. It could power 20 cameras concurrently and not break a sweat. I tested a EOS 550D on the battery current draw; It idles at about 0.15A(1-2W) and records video at 0.7A(5-6W). This is appropriate for those small canon batteries. On the other hand, my Blackmagic Pocket 4K draws easily 3A (20W) or more from those LP-E6N batteries, even when not shooting video. This is IMO 3x more than what is appropriate. The batteries totally overheat and shut down during operation. They can't work properly in cold. They don't work in sun. They don't last even remotely their full capacity compared to in a lower draining camera like a normal Canon DSLR. This is bad product design; it's canon LP-E6N compatible in size, but not in usage. To use the Canon batteries with my Pocket 4K, i have to swap between them every 5-10min so they can cool down and stabilize their resistance. So these Smallrig LP-E6NH batteries have even less current drain ability than an original canon battery, yes, but maybe in some cameras with lower current draw that's just fine. Given that even a Canon LP-E6N is under spec'ed for blackmagic Pocket, i think that's a consideration for any battery. It's still a good product, in the right application. Though the manufacturer should state this limitation. If you look at www.lygte-info.dk, the guy has a ton of tests of batteries that really shows the different total capacities at different current draws.

[@gfxmaniac]

Usb circuit probably takes 20% of space in Smallrig battery. So it has smaller cells. And smaller capacity.

[@ethanchonfont8144]

Is your smallrig battery are 2000mAh too like the canon one ?

[@JaredHoyman]

I ended up returning them. I believe they were rated around 2400 but did not reflect that in real world performance.

[@alancongratssoonyoullhead5273]

By the way, where are you located

[@JaredHoyman]

Green Bay WI

[@DimaFadeev]

Thank you too much! Great review! If just 20% difference - not so bad result. Thanks again 😊🙏

[@Dstonephoto]

Batteries are a funny business. All you’re seeing is the outside and not the internals. These third party batteries have their place as backups (so long as they don’t cross a specific pricing threshold). I think powerbanks and other power supplies offer a better value. It’s too bad we can’t rig up Eneloops as reliable power supplies. Remember when Canon offered AA battery trays on their grips and then killed it? Nikon is even worse on the front of third party batteries as theyll go full IDF on camera internals.

[@mattkolf12]

Love it. Thanks for the info!

[@Michael_Anthony05]

Good video, I am never convinced when it comes to third party batteries, they are never as good as the OEM battery. always stick to the manufactures battery. They can also damage your camera as well. be careful. Thanks for making a heads up video. I own 8 of the canon LPE6NH batteries. I will pay the $79 dollars from B&H. The USB charging got me excited as well. To good to be true. I cant trust Third party batteries. Try shooting with 40 FPS and it will probably fail on you.

[@cooloox]

I have found Jupio batteries to basically perform identically for stills (I don't shoot video, so can't comment) and cost half the price of Canon batteries. I've used them alongside Canon batteries for years.

[@dentReviews]

usb c, 80% of the charge for half the price? I'd say that still worth it. You could buy two for the price of one cannon battery, and end up with essentially 160% of one canon battery. sure you may have to change batteries one time, but you have the flexibility and they're not large. but I do think they should be more careful with their advertising

[@fatgrouch]

Anyone who has tried a third party LP-E6 in the past 10 years can tell you the mAh number on non-Canon batteries is never accurate. The SmallRig battery is less than half the price of the Canon LPE6NH in Australia, some people may find it useful to have two less power batteries for the price of one. The USB-C charging can also be useful for some people.

[@justallmedia]

I wish they had designed the USB charge port to fit onto the battery like a dummy battery then we we'd have something interesting.

[@JaredHoyman]

With the newer RF camera you don’t need dummy batteries anymore. R6 2 and R7 stay full powered on through usbc now.

[@MrMartin246]

What is the big deal if the battery capacity turns out to be 20% less and the battery cost 1/2 the price ? That does not make it a bad purchase. If you value the convenience of the USB-C port directly on the battery that should be good. Sure capacity is less than advertised maybe but that is almost always the case with batteries unfortunately. I would not make a big deal about it. As a side note Canon made several versions of the LP-E6 and they have different capacities

[@JaredHoyman]

As long as people are ok with the compromise of less battery for half the price that’s fine. For me and other full time working photographers/videographers I have 8hr shoot days 5 days a week and to have a battery I don’t have to swap out as much is a big deal. This is especially true on the video side of things. For hobbyist and those that don’t shoot long this can be an excellent choice. The motto “Buy nice or buy twice” is a good one to live by.

[@trekkeruss]

In my experience, OEM batteries last longer not only on a single charge, but number of charge cycles as well. I have been disappointed with third-party batteries enough times that I won't consider them anymore. I would rather get know performance from an official battery than gamble that a cheap one might be okay.

[@Zejakov]

Actually wanted to buy this now lol

[@1357media]

Good stuff. Thanks bro

[@alancongratssoonyoullhead5273]

Thanks man❤🙏

[@FQ8]

I have a USB-C portable charger for my phone and thought this was a great idea. I got the Neewer version on Prime Day for $23. I've had pretty good success with their regular ones so I said why not. I was disappointed.

[@JaredHoyman]

I just sent mine back to Amazon. Great concept, but it needs tweaking.

[@garyanderson5609]

Maybe the battery had a problem.But face it you get what you pay for! I use off brand battery's and carry a few backups. But I save a ton of money! We use 5 Canon 1Dx cameras! You have pointed out how much you paid for off brand and cost of the Canon battery.. For the 1Dx the Canon battery is $169-189 each. Off brand is $29-49 So I can buy 6 to 9 for the cost of one Canon battery! Look I keep 2 backs up with me and yes I need to sometimes put it the back up battery in . But think of that! As having been in photography 50 plus years..A third party lens is never as good! Things like auto focus is slower or my of a problem with locking on the subject, maybe lack of sharpness of different F.stops and the lack of contrast. And how long the lens will last! I'm still using a few A.F. Canon lenses from the late 1990's and have taken millions of photos from them! I do thank you for your postings of videos but please cover the subject in all the matter!

[@JaredHoyman]

It’s a very relative topic I’m finding. In the mid size camera like the R6 and R5 the cost difference isnt as vast as your larger bodies like the 1dx. I don’t think this is a horrible battery, but if you want the most out of your camera buy oem. If you need a couple extra for safety measures then 3rd party is a good option.

[@garyanderson5609]

@JaredHoyman I also use a Canon 7d and the Canon battery is over a hundred bucks! Again I got 6 off brand ones for 100.00 and maybe they don't last as long. But... And yes for any major shoot I use the Canon battery's! But here's the important part! My Canon battery's are old real old they are at least 8 years old and out of 11 battery's Canon Only one died! Can't do that with the off brand ones.

[@songhs77]

가격이 캐논 제품에 비해 1/2밖에 되지 않는 장점이 있습니다. 물론 스몰리그 제품에 표기된 용량은 캐논 배터리보다 스몰리그 배터리가 더 높아서 수명이 오래가는 것을 기대할 수 있긴하지만...

[@gregfisher216]

Love that saying !

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

Hmmm...80% of the power for half the price PLUS USB-C charging. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

[@JaredHoyman]

Feedback I have had in the comments is that after a few months the duration of charge has gone down quite a bit.

[@JaredHoyman]

Canon battery got 20% longer recording time than smallrig. You can see the test a little past the 3min marker of this video.

[@wldktz1]

If there is one thing to purchase OEM, it's the batteries!

[@gilgameshuruk2644]

I can buy 3 smallrig batterywhich are $35 on sale and can be recharged while shooting vs 1 Canon Lpe6hn Now redo math with 3 smallrig battery shooting vs 1 canon

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

I bought them due to your recommendation. Off I go to try to cancel.

[@JaredHoyman]

Sorry. Good news is return policy is generous. I may still keep one as a backup in my bag and return the other. Usb-c charging can come in handy in a pinch.

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

@@JaredHoyman it’s all good. It haven’t shipped yet I emailed them right after I saw your video and hopefully they respond tomorrow with a refund.

[@erik.karlsson]

This battery was crap, I lost video footage because the battery died when there should have been 25% left. And I get only around 1000 pics with this, I get over 2000 with Canon's LP-E6NH

[@WeeBurnip-lz3fr]

I have 4, two died completely in a couple of months.

[@NickDixon]

20% less capacity, you say? Gosh it's almost as if a fifth of the Smallrig battery is taken up with USB charging circuitry instead of electrolyte.

[@MilwaukeeMax]

Ya get what ya pay for. That’s why I stay away from cheap equipment.

[@markwinslow1423]

You get what you pay for. At least it has the usbc port

[@JaredHoyman]

Yes, the usb-c connection is handy and this battery can be useful as long as you know its shortcomings.

[@richryanphotography]

so I assume if youre shooting 8 houses in a day, you must not be doing anything but go in shoot everything as is... regardless of what it looks like

[@JaredHoyman]

Correct! I have a list for agents and sellers for prep. I treat them like my kids. You get what you get and you don't throw a fit. I open blinds, turn on all lights, but if there is anything of significance that needs to me moved or changed that is their responsibility. Btw...8 in a daybis rare. Typically 5 and a video walk through is thrown in the mix. Those were all photos and drone photos.

[@richryanphotography]

@@JaredHoyman Thanks for the reply... Great content on your channel. I find that no matter how many times I tell people or send them a prep guide, the homeowners just dont get it... and I find my self on location for an extra 30-45 minutes moving and organizing. Part of that is my type A OCD personality, and it has actually got me alot of business... because agents here I take the time to do it... So now to compensate I just raised my prices.

[@MichaelMacco]

Great experiment! 24.56% Increase btw.

[@JaredHoyman]

I can always count on you for precision. Thanks Mike!

[@adnmultimedia]

I stand corrected lol Hey you tried, right?

[@JaredHoyman]

And that is why 30 day return policies are great 😉

[@VanceWorldTravel]

Please take down your initial video. I almost bought it from that video, and then stumbled upon this one. I almost dismissed it as a "gotcha" video.. you know the negative title and key frame videos that re click bait... thankfully, I still clicked on it. I understand youtube algorithms etc.. but please remove the initial video.

[@JaredHoyman]

I had an update in the description but just added the video of n the front of the description.

[@camerasutra247]

How dare you say that about small rig?😂. Small Rig POLICE on the way. You’re going to get trolled so bad.😂😂😂😂😂 I never buy third-party the only one that I ever did buy third-party batteries from is RAV power. They worked great for about a year, then lost their fizz.

[@JaredHoyman]

😆 I know, right!?! You are well aware being trolled is a right of passage on this platform 😉

[@camerasutra247]

@@JaredHoyman Keeping doing it you will see how it takes your channel in a downward spiral they are vicious

[@lighthouseproduction4807]

BRO If you know you made a bad video DELETE IT! I almost bought it.

[@JaredHoyman]

I took it off. The reason I kept it on is that many people reached out after seeing both videos and said they still went with the small rig because although it was 20% less battery life it was over 50% the price and the usb-c charging option on the go worked for them. It is a very subjective view on a battery and I wanted people to make their own decision. I did decide to make it unlisted and I will probably do a follow up down the line on these types of batteries. Thanks for the comment.

[@joenogueira2801]

so you should delete your video that recommends this product...I had ordered it based on your review....Thanks for nothing! Do your homework before recommending crap!!!!

[@tmc.planelord]

Thank. I’m thinking of buying that thank you. ❤️🙏🫡

[@tmc.planelord]

Got the r6markii on my planespotting the original battery never had a problem with me. But sometimes when I’m transferring I forgot to turn it off. Great contect and info. Thank you again buddy