Visual recoil on Hand Cannons and the "perfect" Stability stat to hit

[@CoolGuyGames]

Console people. Your fight is with field of view. Huge difference is what input and FoV you are at. If you are getting a new console. 60 frames + a FoV slider WILL BE a night and day difference. There are basically 3 total subfamilies now. 140s and 120 sharing the same stability ( universal) and then 180s. The 120s all have low inherent stability.

[@monkyyy]

fov slider is gonna be on all consoles right?

[@CoolGuyGames]

From the looks, only the new ones

[@de14jabs]

@@CoolGuyGames that sets a disadvantage if they plan on doing inter generational cross play. Not everyone can afford to spend that kind of money when work and pay is already limited. Correct me if I’m wrong Mr Cool. Keep up the good content/ work I don’t have the time nor patience for 👍

[@NatDoa]

@@monkyyy no, only the new ones get it as only the new gen consoles have processing power for different FOVs

[@thatguyfrominvincible]

@@monkyyy only next gen

[@benknudsen670]

Yoo the beard is dope man! Also a test I’ve been waiting for!

[@gabrielsuda851]

Hey cool guy, I just wanted to thank you for all of your tips and info. My pvp experience has dramatically increased as far as skill and just trying new things and having fun go, and I owe that in part to your greatly informative videos, as well as your level headedness. Your philosophy on gaming has had a huge and positive impact on me, and I can’t thank you enough for that. I’m doing awesome because you’re awesome- so thank you!!

[@phezter]

Ton of work. Results are much appreciated!

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

If there's anyone on the internet that I would unquestionably trust with weapon performance information, it's Steven Seagal. Thank you for your analysis Steven.

[@CoolGuyGames]

Nobody beats me in the kitchen

[@Omni00]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS YES PLEASE AND THANK YOU

[@hitman6773]

You look like your in the witness protection program. 😂

[@lolgisticalofficer233]

I feel like Coolguy would quote the episode of The Simpsons where they were put into witness protection too much, and make the people trying to help him really mad.

[@walkeronegaming]

this level of detail and how you explain it for regular people to understand is why i subscribe and support the channel. looks like you're feeling yourself again which is good to see

[@gamerprodigy107]

Im going to share this video man! It was very informative and i loved it. Good job!

[@GloverGaming3]

In not really sure that I understood/absorbed everything you were saying, but I do appreciate the amount of work this took you. That's why I love watching your videos. I know that you're not just making things up, and that you've actually got the prof to back up what you're saying

[@axxicution]

Cool guy will you please make a video on high caliber rounds? And how it works on different archetypes and against unflinching perks?

[@MatthewGaither]

You are a scholar and a gentleman for this CoolGuy. I know it was a ton of work and we appreciate it.

[@LittleShySky]

Visual Recoil is the best thing to use to perfect your aim tbh. Go to a location and start deciding whether you need to aim higher or lower, It's all about the recoil pattern.

[@PapiSensei331]

Dude I got a Better Devils with max stability, rangefinder, & explosive payload. It is the most controllable and accurate hand cannon I've ever played with.

[@estusaddict6365]

*Laughs in max stability austringer with rangefinder*

[@simeoncheshmedjiev-shraik4719]

You crazy dude... how much effort have gone into this video alone... unbelievable. Hats off to you, my guy.

[@minimelegend]

My 2 Favourite Dire Promise's Steadyhand, High Cal, Overflow, Rangefinder, Stability MW - 50 Range, 68 Stability Steadyhand, RR, Opening Shot, Rangefinder, Range MW - 59 Range, 68 Stability

[@joemurray]

Wondering if there was a follow up to see if it is exactly 67 or 68 :) thanks always loved this video

[@Kiwaloayo]

thanks coolguy, i wanted to actually know this for a while now and I'm very very very glad to see it's you uploading this.

[@tristan4790]

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[@virendragarg4083]

I got scared for a sec then my heart rate went back down

[@exoticbutters4L]

Same bro

[@ShadowDestiny]

very interesting info, thanks!

[@EvasiveEvo]

love how thorough you are man, its absurd.

[@Joe-tq2rh]

Thanks bud, I really like the you paint a complete picture of everything you you speak on. It's very impressive

[@enloeeagle7258]

You're a mad man for working all of this out!

[@ehkoin]

So happy to see this. Stability on hand cannons has been such a mystery for so long.

[@Un4gettablewolf]

The same thing works on bows with accuracy. Having a subtle with 100 accuracy feels allot better than one with 95 accuracy. The change may seem little but when using it, it's like having a 100 accuracy passes some sort of threshold. I also seen this with 450 ARs. If you have one with about 80 range, your shots seem to connect very well and it seems like it has a increased aim assist. Anything lower and you really start to feel like it's slipping.

[@GIyphix_]

I concur with that statement on 450 ARs. I’m using Dynamic Sway/Disruption Break Uriels in pvp and it’s range is around 84-86 and it is much more consistent than my other Uriels and Braytech Werewolf

[@Un4gettablewolf]

@@GIyphix_ yep exactly. I have some old ringing nails with 84ish range and for some reason the consistency just goes way up compared to anything with less. My old breytech werewolf has 95 range and it feels unbelievable. Too bad 450s are in a tight spot.. as for 600 ARs, I say anything over 60 range and you can have some very sticky shots. When I look for them I always try to have 60+ range and 60+ stability. I think that's the sweet spot. For hand cannons on console, I try to find some with 70 stability or more. 60 range is good enough but with a 70 stability, you can afford to miss a few shots if they aren't all the best

[@GIyphix_]

@@Un4gettablewolf I honestly suggest trying out Uriels in Crucible. If you have a Dynamic Sway roll and solid range stat. It actually can contend with 600s funnily enough. The only one I struggle with beating out is Summoner and the obviously proc KC Gnaw.

[@Un4gettablewolf]

@@GIyphix_I have quite a few God rolls on the UG but only one has the 80 range threshold. Has a 45 stability but it also comes with dynamic sway and moving target. I hope it works good as I have a big soft spot for 450s. I just wish they were a little more deadly

[@AgentRacerX]

Thanks! I’m on console and I Just switched my austringer barrel to small bore from extended barrel for the first time to try it because of this video. Took the stability from 63-69 and can honestly say that it feels better! Wouldn’t have tried of it wasn’t for this video :)

[@stealthmonkeydc2869]

I was waiting on this one. My main gun is a dire promise with steady hand, RR, Snapshot , elemental capacitor and rage masterwork and its smooth af. Elemental capacitor is definitely a sleeper perk.

[@GIyphix_]

Facts, people need to stop sleepin on it. I have the Seventh Seraph Sidearm with Threat Detector/Elemental Capacitor and when you have on Void... whhooooo, it slaps

[@brettkeegan45]

Yeah I have three dires opening shot range finder snapshot range finder both with stability mw and a snapshot elemental capacitor and a range mw and honestly there all good but the elemental capacitor one feels the best smoothest. It’s very underrated

[@nikolashauzeur7310]

Thank you for your dedication to numbers im obsessed with numbers in the game as well, so your videos are very cool to me! Thank you and stay amazing!!!

[@adamcallaghan2135]

Insane analytics. Great work man. I'm sure you're glad this video is finished and out for everyone.

[@aliencerberus25]

Great content, been watching your content and several others here on KZbin. You guys have improved my game so much from the casual I once was. Got my Unbroken title being my 3rd season in a row pushing for it. Thank you again appreciate your time helping the rest of us out! See you in the new expansion Guardian!

[@InfernoPhilM]

Thank you for your service.

[@RENDAN_iel]

Dude this is so informative thank you!

[@MG-rt1xf]

Ancient gospel should be revisited. With the incoming range buffs, lower ttk values across the board, an incredible perk set, as well as a healthy amount of stability, gospel is set to rule the hand cannon meta. Can’t wait!!!

[@kitanat9944]

Yeah it’s too bad about the sight, I don’t enjoy it, even Frostbolt doesn’t like the sight. If you do though, it definitely is the best energy legendary 140 in my opinion.

[@Ryan83728]

@@kitanat9944 I really dont like it either, smallest red dot possible combined with a large hand cannon model

[@var1ares]

Duuuude this is insane thank you for your hard work and contributions to the community

[@chrisgpz]

Have been looking forward to this video and it definitely delivered. Thanks for the hard work on this one!

[@TobiasBirkebeiner]

This is so good, my man. I appreciate all the hard work that has gone into this. Delicious, detailed, stat heavy, I love it.

[@musecist1]

Thanks for your work! Appreciate it!

[@-gg8342]

Thanks for the breakdown!

[@kofizelim6844]

I'm not first I'm not last but watching this video has been a blast

[@VTJasmine69]

I could've just told you ;-; I never tested it all out number for number but I remember just getting a 150 HC with 68 stability and I knew this was the correct feel for controller. I don't know what's a good stability for 140 or 110/120 but the stability doesn't need to be as high because of the fire rate and the pull back to the center point

[@basoriks9445]

This might be weird for some people to hear but for how helpful this might be, in finding the quote best handcannon, there will still be that one handcannon that might work better for you just based on how you feel with it. And thanks for the information great work 👍

[@MultiMrDrago]

I have an austringer sitting at 95 stability and I have had the best time firing it. It has felt so smooth and crispy and I feel good about dueling in the shortened range handcannons are currently in. I hope to find a close-to-max stability austringer with eye of the storm and rangefinder but for now the 95 stability with opening shot and outlaw has been great.

[@robersk841]

Love ur method for creating vids 👌🏼

[@thetiredoldtiger4711]

Honestly hadn't even thought about FOV being a factor in recoil but when you said it, it made obvious sense that it would of course be a factor. I'm really hoping 60fps and FOV slider will make as big a difference as I hope to hand cannons. By far my favourite weapon type in the game and dropped them largely due to the range nerf. Looking forward to getting back to using one in BL!

[@RenegadeHunter1013]

Well I don’t have enough gameplay to tell but I played on my friends PC a few times with controller, testing out 60 fps and 95 FOV. And handcannons with controllers feel a lot more comfortable. Recoil is still there but it’s not as jumpy so it feels mroe spammable, and plus with the FPS with the aim assist and reticle stickiness controllers get. I think HCs will be very d1 like if not better next gen

[@ThatGuyRjRox17]

Informative as always brother, nice work. 🙏

[@tristancraven3979]

Awesome video, thanks for putting in the extra effort!

[@netrajat]

That is a lot of work! Nice!!! Keep it up!

[@hollowman7027]

I absolutely love my nation of beasts with 87 stability,everything about it is perfect,it's snappy,it's so consistent,recoil is straight af,feels like shooting with hc on mnk and now that 150s and 140s will be merged in beyond light plus it has enough light level to last for 3 seasons,it will be my main hc until hawkmoon drops unless hawkmoon is going to have low stability and hard to use on console like lumina then i'm gonna go back to my beloved nation of beasts. I'm on console and my nation of beasts is sitting at 6k kills in pvp,i got it in season of worth. It's perfect hc in pve and pvp because i also like to use izanagi on any activity and i'm too lazy to change loadout

[@juanwilches9756]

Your work is impecable!! Keep these coming my dude!

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[@immortalcbox8769]

I have an austringer with 69 range and 72 stability, easily the best feeling HC I’ve used. Also have an old fashioned that can get 87 base stability plus slideshot. Basically gives it 100 stability, however the base range is only 40 if I go that route.

[@nicknelson2138]

What a really informative video. Great work 👍

[@Janube]

Hey CoolGuy, you might consider having just a thirty second bit where you have an animation tween showing minimum stability to maximum stability in one fluid scene using the stills that you've taken. I found a lot of this information SUPER useful, but it's hard to synthesize a visual idea of how good stability is from the comparison shots that you have, which are largely taking 150s compared to 140s within a specific stability level, rather than going bottom-up or top-down overall. Just something that would help some people SEE the distinction made by the stability stat a little more clearly.

[@michaelomerzu229]

I have an Austringer with 95 stability. It feel like a 180. It’s amazing.

[@themadhatter9358]

Respect your vids, love them all. Thanks for doing the hard work you do. And nice beard!

[@jamartinoiii]

Hey man, great job on the vid. Hope youre doing well, the community appreciates you and the content you produce.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

Thanks for all your hard work on this CoolGuy, much appreciated :)

[@toodubious654]

Thank you for making this video! cleared so much up for me.

[@ducypoo]

Thanks for the cool vid! Looks like it took a lot of work and time and effort and I appreciate that!

[@ivancalvo7153]

I have a ten paces 90 stability, putting a counterbalance is dope lol!!!, BTW it has moving target and timed payload it feels so good to use, but I hope with this new tweaks finally shine

[@amoralsupport672]

Got a Bottom Dollar with Surplus. Threw a Counterbalance on it and the recoil is non-existent even on controller.

[@jonathanmcguffie7262]

CG - always my go to guy for the hard facts. You’re a legend.

[@theFunkyThumb]

This makes me happy that I kept my max stability austringer. Its always felt amazing

[@nik_mik]

got a dire with steadyhand + ricochet + snapshot + rangefinder a couple weeks ago. thing is a beast as a 150, should be a good 140 too hopefully🤞🏽

[@common_cross]

Super helpful, thank you!

[@Zezerezz]

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[@codyhouse6436]

Always enjoy your breakdowns! There so through!

[@DudeNoWayGaming]

This was a fantastic video. Thank you for all of the time and dedication it took to make it. I know how much work goes into these and I want you to know we appreciate it. -Moonchild

[@juice3434]

Thank you, this is exactly what I've been looking for.

[@kingkcustoms2216]

These videos are so fucking helpful man not enough you tubers put them up. Great content brother.

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Your videos are so amazing and informative I appreciate these so much I look forward to more of these in the future 🙂

[@jakedinsmore8548]

Cool Guy you're a pretty freakin cool guy. Thanks for all the hard work

[@jasontaylor5704]

Flat out amazing and detailed review brother. Can’t thank you enough for all of the time, effort, and hard work you put into these videos. We all appreciate you. 🏆🏆

[@Slightly_lostboy]

Been waiting all week for this!

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[@dr.doritos9875]

I feel like for range, you should try to shoot for that 60 stat (50 + RF), IMO the stickiness feels amazing from that, tacking on with the stability.

[@drewjackson6403]

dude you are brilliant

[@toyinjr]

i got a 94 stability austringer with opening shot and can't wait to test it out in beyond light

[@LordHojo]

This is the lords work.

[@Juiceair77]

@ 2:42 to skip the ad.

[@richdangelo]

I got a 120 Steady hand from IB, came with steady hand iron grip and stability mw, master worked I hit 68 and it feels the best so far.

[@Pocket_Fox]

I'm curious why you chose to test initial shots instead of muzzle climb. Muzzle climb is what really matters here, although you'd have to completey redo it after 150s became 140s. Stability, rpm, and to a lesser extent recoil direction (for hand cannons anyway) are what determine your muzzle climb. Rpm is a HUGE part of this, so I don't understand why you would be measuring single shots. Fire 3 shots into a wall at max rof (or 4 if you like), then measure the distance between the first and last shot. There'syour muzzle climb. You'll find that different rpm hand cannons need different amounts of stability to support their max rof. Wouldn't this have been much more useful? Side note: 150s got a defacto stability buff when they became 140s. Well, not really. What they got was a muzzle climb buff, because the rof went down while stability stayed the same.

[@thatguyfrominvincible]

when I saw the sneak peak from 8 min on twitter I knew this technical video would be awesome

[@dustin_echoes]

Bruh you went full Fallout. Did you guys go to the prison together or something? Lmao

[@jamese3114]

CG, you’re the best and most wholesome content creator on the platform. Keep up the great work

[@GothGfGG]

I’m on pc on the sticks. Dire with opening shot, elemental and lucky pants gives me MNK recoil control. It’s insane

[@Stumpypigeon]

Look at that goatee! Probably only took a couple hours to get! Good stuff as always though, all the best!

[@estebanmeneses4474]

i have an austringer with 69 stability... and now i know why i always founded much easier to use in comparison with other handcannons i have .... Good video!

[@BoLink]

Nice

[@corujariousa]

That is a lot of hrs of work. Thanks for the video.

[@chrismarsh1425]

Hey man, hows your health going? hope your good! great to see you back love your content :)

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I Love my GMG performance glasses! have had them a while now , I wont play without them , 1 of the best investments I have made for myself in a while

[@Zammle]

There's a stat called Bounce Intensity. Counter balance mods and arrow head brake drastically increase vertical jump movement (which isn't good) but keeps the recoil vertical. You can see all bound intensity stats on Light gg website

[@chillhour6155]

I got an austringer roll that feels so smooth and a joy to shoot, even more so then Rose..yeah

[@mabaj2696]

Been waiting for this one 👍🏾

[@stormshadowoffire]

My rangefinder austringer has 68 stability and 69 (nice) range. I'm hyped to see how it feels in PvP with Beyond Light's HC changes and auto changes.

[@clshields56]

Wow! How much time this must have taken. Thank you

[@gist217]

The man with the cool mustache and beard! Always love ur vids always good useful info!

[@patrickarraes4422]

Great work!

[@fplgregfrost]

Thanks Cool Guy. I might be able to delete 10 out of my 15 dire promise's now. I don't even use hand cannons on console in PvP! Maybe I will now with Series X. Rangefinder is now something I need to decide if I want it or not.

[@georgegmoney8334]

Really appreciate all the time and energy you put into making these. Thanks. Just outta curiosity how long did it take you to make this?

[@jamieblakely4043]

Great vid and love the facial hair youre rocking now