Exploring the Horrors of the Minecraft Community

[@VisualVenture]

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[@frenchfries216]

Watched them all!

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

nice, been watching since july

[@Mai.Calico]

shill

[@onepunchman6165]

​@So Id well, money is money

[@XdekHckr]

6:30 So can morgan & morgan win censorship case in minecraft for us? Just hire them dude, otherwise I won't believe you 🤣🤣

[@The_Horizon]

Appreciate that you covered antip2w! The more people know about pay to win, the less effective those servers are.

[@VisualVenture]

Keep doing what you do! 🙏🏽

[@electronicvan7226]

Common Horizon W

[@thewizard_11]

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[@NaraSherko]

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[@LavaCreeperPeople]

You

[@Third7Plays]

8:13 context aside Schlatt has a dope evil laugh lol

[@Purtzle]

Glad the darker side of Minecraft is getting more awareness, but I hope everyone can agree that the "golden age" of Minecraft was one of the best eras of the internet. Amazing soundtrack too.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Yup, unforgettable and S tier soundtrack. Take a listen to the sonic mania, thunder force iv and persona 5 OST as well

[@gutembergsouza2885]

Bshheu❤😂😅😂😊😊

[@muff1nat0r]

i love minecraft but c418 is practically carrying the entire nostalgia factor for old minecraft.

[@pixilmon]

@@muff1nat0r yes

[@angelicaph483]

I remember Lachlan's songs and the "Don't mine at night" Ahh the good old days

[@MarioDarkboom]

really hurt watching the part with Sky, I viewed him as a hero when I was younger, even after he slowly faded out I believed him to be a good guy and had no clue about this whole thing about him until now.

[@Ashwinisthecool]

I see I never heard about Sky but I feel sorry

[@Th_exclamation_mark_s_Guy]

I used to hate Minecraft when I was really young but after one fun video in Minecraft it made me like it. A few years later and I still like it. It's very hard to not to get nostalgia, especially when it comes from minecraft

[@itxr]

agreed

[@nezzled]

Honestly I think I've always liked it, from the first time I played it. I was also at an age where I sort of just expected to like it, which was hilarious considering I actually did. Now I've been playing for almost 9 years.

[@Da.Liar-Pig]

Even tho I never get to play minecraft on pc and also in moblie I still get nostalgic over the videos from SB737 and some other youtubers

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

It’s not good anymore, sorry

[@Minecraft-ob8vy]

WDC ITS A FLOP GAME WEIRDO

[@demondoggo2768]

Thesis: " Notch is an incel " Evidence: He was negative about a rough break up Yeah I don't know about this one chief.

[@Sillimant_]

nobody knows what incel means anymore. it's just another toothless and meaningless insult, like fascist and nazi

[@sivanhedoesstuff]

yeah that one really seems like a stretch

[@ddddzzzz5426]

You can't have badthink anymore in the reddit world

[@Efsaaneh]

funny thing, microsoft cut ties with him because of his right wing views, he's simply being censored. But nobody wants to admit it because it's textbook fascism and they're "the good guys"

[@AyoubAbida-y6o]

he is a incel cry about it

[@thedaggonator]

The internet is like a city. If you know your way around, and you avoid the wrong people; you'll be fine.

[@momo-jg6dr]

how do you know or sure?🤔

[@shinobix8393]

@@momo-jg6dr hes right u fr jus dumb

[@Joshua21136]

Yeah, and that city's got a HUGE septic system (the dark web)

[@moonylime]

@@Joshua21136so the internet's just online NYC?

[@user-spino]

The city has alot of night clubs Daycares Backalleys (the dark web) Etc

[@Moofshire]

I wouldnt call Notch an incel. Incels are people who cant even get laid, let alone get married and have a kid. I just think it was Notch venting his sadness and displeasure with the divorce. Its common for men and women to do that. As i said before, an incel is an 'involuntary celibate' or a person who feels they are not attractive and take their anger out on the women who reject them. Notch is quite the opposite. Unlike incels, Notch actually got a woman and a kid. Something incels cannot do.

[@alexm.6533]

Not all incels take it out on the women who reject them.

[@ThePharaqh]

Love to see HellCastle & Tylerrr participating in masterpieces like this!

[@dabled3]

Same i didn’t expect to see him in one of this guys video’s

[@WaldoWheresReal]

I legit pogfaced when he mentioned he was the special guest lol

[@tarnex]

I write something like this very rarely. This video is extremelly well made, I really love the atmosphere, use of effects and how you covered up everything about the dark side of minecraft. I can't really explain it but this type of videos are just perfect. Keep this amazing work up cuz you earned a new sub.

[@VisualVenture]

Thank you my friend it’s an honor 🙏🏽

[@fewsnow]

As someone who played minecraft for about a decade now these issues have been around for a long time now, but with the ever increase of the popularity of youtube theres bound to be more evil that comes along with the good of the community. Great minidoc as always VV

[@VisualVenture]

Appreciate you 🙏

[@Mikooooooooocoooooooooooooooo]

@@VisualVenture we appreciate you for bring awareness to these sorts of terrible things :D

[@NightmareRex6]

add one more v

[@ThreeTrees475]

Why should notch be an incel? Losing a wife and being sad doesn't make you an incel.

[@keagaming9837]

Yeah! I don't think he is as bad of a person as people say he is! He is still kinda bad and he did do some bad things but this video is blowing it way out of proportion!

[@Solaris_0]

Ever since I was a kid I wanted Minecraft but my parents didn’t allow it. I begged them for so many days but then eventually gave up. But nowadays seeing how much hurt that it could have done to me as a kid I’m somewhat glad that my parents didn’t allow me. I watched Minecraft videos all the time when they were starting to get to their peak and remembered being so jealous of all the friends that they had made on there but now, seeing how many friends they truly had and how many “friends” that they manipulated to stay really puts a perspective on things. Not everything is a fine line between good and evil and sometimes it’s hard to see what’s good and what’s not online especially when people have facades that they turn to for virtual innocence. I’m so glad you covered this topic because to be honest I wanna go back to those days of mostly good people and just laughs, cool mods, and transparent content.

[@Treeckoboi1]

W for your parents dude.

[@trolluspogus4732]

You missed out dude

[@Treeckoboi1]

@@trolluspogus4732 no

[@trolluspogus4732]

@@Treeckoboi1 he did bro, please show respect. God bless you!!

[@Treeckoboi1]

@@trolluspogus4732 thank you but what I meant is that he wouldn't have missed out so much by playing terraria.

[@shadowyogi3921]

Saying Notch is an incel is such a giant stretch

[@Sillimant_]

anything to slander him. nothing new

[@keagaming9837]

Yeah! I used to think Notch was bad but now I don't think he is as bad. Don't get me wrong he still did some bad things but this video is overeggagerating a lot!

[@AlfonsoR-kx5ik]

I've been a massive fan of Minecraft since I think 2013, so basically 10 years ago, 2 years after its full release, but seeing minecraft turn into something very messed up honestly made me lose my respect. The report system, and most notably the stans because I was thinking they're the main reason why Minecraft's reputation is being destroyed by these intoxicated people. They're everywhere, even on Twitter where there's so many of them. They have the power and audacity to trend anything on Twitter that's related to Minecraft, such as the DreamSMP for example which they are mostly super obsessed with. For example, Dream, Tommyinnit, and more Minecraft content creators. And let's not forget that they can cancel them for the ridiculous reasons you could ever possibly imagine. Dream has been canceled countless times. If Minecraft was a truly improvement change to literally prevent these types of things from happening, then they need to respond to their community, but they still turn on a blind eye. Even though I'm excited for the Minecraft 1.20 Trails And Tales update, we still have to be cautious and aware of what Minecraft's doing.

[@NatsMinecraft1]

So true

[@anextremelycreativeusernam1367]

Bro Just play modded 1.12.2 or 1.7.10 those communities are about half the reason i play the game anymore.

[@googleoogle]

wasnt he "cancelled" because of underage grooming allegations? that's not the most ridiculous reason imaginable by far.

[@lightofthefire8171]

Ah yes, trending things on Twitter. Truly the most heinous crime.

[@robotratsrb2152]

dream actually has some good reasons to be cancelled but pretty much everyone else is totally unwarranted

[@seasorablue]

i used to be super into the dsmp and while i fell out naturally and not due to whatever drama stuff, the stans are CRAZY. theres plenty of friendly people but theres also complete wackos that go wayyy over the top.

[@max-abobea]

I don't understand the notch being an incel part, he said that she wanted a normal life and that's it

[@TheOneTrueMar]

It's one of the least toxic post-divorce messages I've ever read. Unless I'm missing something, he did appear to portray himself in negative light. Not his ex. How is that incel behavior?

[@patriciaszabo8015]

​@@TheOneTrueMarHe had somewhat anti-feminist tweet, but who know what happened exactly with him around gamergate.

[@cooler5827]

​@@patriciaszabo8015Yeah, but I don't really think having an anti-feminist tweet is really "incel" behavior. I'm not trying to be rude about this, I'm just saying that calling him an incel in this video was kinda a stretch.

[@khaozcat]

Everything said in this video is why I stopped playing public Minecraft servers. Toxicity, pay to win, account stealing are not what I want to deal with, so I either play singleplayer or on smaller SMPs that people I know are hosting.

[@kernsanders3973]

The start of why notch wanted to sell minecraft is completely incorrect. In fact its linked to one of the darkest parts of minecraft that Notch wanted to address, the private servers built to scam/pay2win players. a lot of these private servers were raking in decent money. Mojang put out new Terms of Services to combat this toxic part of minecraft, so you can see why there was massive efforts to ramp up the backlash, people making big money dont want to let go of that. He was tired of it because of the massive backlash for putting out new legal terms of services for exactly these private servers. It was at this point he made that tweet. Not because he just wanted to make prototypes. Notch stepped away from Minecraft dev and gave that to Jeb while he worked on prototypes, by the time Notch sold he hasnt worked on minecraft for years. I played a few of them and they just that, a bunch of prototype. Also that incel part was horrific speculation, Notch is a billionaire who threw lavish huge parties in his hollywood mansion with celebrities attending regularly. That is about as far from incel as anyone can get, he needed no effort to get laid. He traveled and visited the biggest party islands out there. I'm sure if you ever have a look at Notch's inbox, you will see tons of women wanting to worm themselves into his life.

[@ReXiRa787]

Throwing huge parties whilst also feeling the most alone he's ever been lol

[@dimitrifake53]

​@ReXiRa787 There difference is there are people who are there for you or people there for your parties and your money.

[@opticteadrop]

​@@ReXiRa787This is bullshit, he later tweeted his words were misunderstood. Of coursez the followup tweet got barely any attention because eocial media promotes toxicity. That basically happened with all his "controversial" tweets - he later clarifies something or apologises, but barely anyone knows about that. That's why the whole "downfall of Notch" is bullshit

[@oooooba8343]

​@@dimitrifake53thats irrelevant

[@dimitrifake53]

@@oooooba8343 You're irrelevant.

[@ex1rt]

"Notch could be an incel" *2 words after* "He got married..."

[@Skullgal0]

He MIGHT be one, also incels become incels after girl breaks their heart

[@WitherSnow]

@@Skullgal0 The fact is you don't know what an incel is. Incel is shorthand for involuntary celibate. Celibate: A person who abstains from sexual relations. A person who remains unmarried, especially for religious reasons. So a person who got married and then had a kid is not an Incel. Liberals like to ascribe political positions to Incels and it's really fucking stupid when it happens. Saying someone becomes an incel after someone breaks their heart is comically misinformed! Incels have trouble even getting into relationships in the first place. Dumb, stupid, misinformed!

[@pyxilate]

You didn’t watch past that, did you?

[@eightrightturns7120]

@@pyxilate Probably did some people just dont think about that making it sound really weird.

[@catalysts94]

@@Skullgal0 involuntary celibate, would imply that you can't form romantic and/or sexual relationships

[@Querez8504]

I would like to mention that it does seem like large parts of what you said about MC Java 1.19.1 is untrue or slightly twisted. Signs would never get censored on Java. That only happens on Bedrock, and it had been like that for a long while before Java 1.19.1. Mojang never monitored or planned to monitor the chat. They specifically put a system in place where people could select messages to report, which _then_ Mojang would see. The chat would never be censored, except for their own Realms services, where you can easily turn that setting off for your own Realm with no caveats. Most of the issues which could cause abuse of chat reports were fixed. There are some ways to get around it, but it seems to be a lot more difficult than it initially was. Censorship of "bad words" would largely only happen on Bedrock, and, as I said, it had been happening for a while before Java 1.19.1.

[@bunx2021]

Personally when Tommy (Innit) was on the grill on twitter that's when the colors really shined through for me. I believe that this all roots back to the day Minecraft went live, when Notch left, he was pushed out and that was the first sign of toxicity which was overshadowed by notch's political opinions, from there the people though the community was nice but those same people were like a part of hive mind in which they cannot self reflect on their own action, unknowingly becoming a monster in disguise kinda like that movie "The Thing" where the monster assimilates people without their knowledge becoming something of a mindless slave, except the monster itself was also in the mind that it is human.

[@Vitamin_E]

Can’t wait for this doc visual, currently in class and this will be a great way to relax! Great work as always man keep it up!

[@VisualVenture]

Thank you my friend can’t wait for you to watch it as always 🙏🏽

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@VisualVenture lol

[@simarkarmani4034]

Thank you for protecting my heart and skin! _Do you understand my joke? You're Vitamin E!_

[@Batman_83]

I discovered your channel just a few days ago and I'm happy that I did. You seem very passionate about the videos that you are making and give so much information on each subject. I've now subscribed to your channel. Keep up the awesome content.

[@donnyexoduz3356]

Using Jschlatt as an example for this is HYSTERICAL 💀

[@StarryInkArt]

Ikr lmao 😂 He’s uncancelable

[@HelloIAmAnExist]

Minecraft nerd here with some notes: 1:33 he actually tweeted this as a joke, but after getting the unexpected response he actually agreed which is kinda funny. 3:53 mojang was already under fire for plenty of reasons at around the same time, which made the whole ordeal even more controversial. Also, it's worth mentioning, there was some censorship before already (mostly in bedrock edition if I recall) but it took things to the extreme. 5:03 I've experienced it first hand, and let me tell you, it's BAD. Sometimes I couldn't even tell why I was getting censored (one notable example being "some diamonds" iirc, something COMPLETELY innocent), and almost every other message I sent had to be rephrased multiple times. 7:23 I don't know FOR SURE you're wrong, but I heavily doubt this is the first. The first POPULAR one maybe, but not the overall first recording of any SMP. 8:08 pretty sure he did that as a joke 10:15 when he says often, he means OFTEN. I've had my account stolen once (luckily I was able to get it back with no losses, my dad mostly handled it so I don't remember the specifics), and I've known many others that had the same happen to them. This is not a rare phenomena, it's just another Tuesday. 12:32 millions, give us the respect we deserve >:D 13:42 not a Minecraft related note, but this marketing tactic of getting you to believe there's a sale is really common in any place you can imagine Overall, good job researching this. As someone who doesn't really participate in the Minecraft community (to my knowledge) you sure do know your stuff.

[@freddawson6803]

bro just called a dude who literally had a kid an incel lol

[@elijones1453]

I remember skydoesminecraft from years and years ago. I never kept up on his channel specifically but to this day i never had any idea of what was happening behind closed doors when it comes to him, and it honestly baffles me that these things were going on during the period of my life when all minecraft meant to me was a way to bond with my childhood friends, weather playing or watching the videos. Man how i wish i could go back

[@c8ff]

This will surely be interesting for me, as I have known about minecraft since 2015 and never heard a lot of drama sourrounding the game.

[@keagaming9837]

Have you ever heard of the Dream glow squid drama with the Minecraft mob vote? For me this was when I started to realize that the Minecraft community was toxic! I'm sad that Dream rigged the mob vote! D:

[@invalid_user_handle]

The larger something is, the more likely it is to have controversies surrounding it, and if you consider Minecraft is _the_ most sold game in the world by a pretty large margin, it's no surprise there's so many cases like this. Honestly I'm surprised you haven't covered the elsagate-like mess that is Monster School, what once was an innocent series made by a passionate creator was taken by twisted people and turned into a horrible mockery designed to farm ad revenue.

[@ss_sunflower5090]

Another dark side of minecraft is the p*d3philia issue. I had never incountered many on roblox, but minecraft was different. They go onto servers to disguise their intent as "making friends", then groom you. I was groomed by one and he even almost made me plan my entire future around him. It's extremely gross. On another server I used to be on, people got banned for it constantly. They manage to get you talking outside if the game through discord, skype, kik, snap, or other social media. Always targetting games with children. Remember to stay safe.

[@SH1N0Z]

I am so sorry that that happened to you.

[@ss_sunflower5090]

@@SH1N0Z thanks

[@SH1N0Z]

@@ss_sunflower5090 no problem ^^

[@AceArata]

So Notch is an incel because... let me check my notes here... he was sad about his divorce and hasnt felt happy since his wife left him? I dunno about that one chief.

[@extenos]

“a swedish video game publisher based in sweden”💀

[@kaylee84243]

Me on my 5th grade English essay:

[@WONDERBOIY]

I can be Canadian and based in India. It's where you work pretty much

[@heroes-of-balkan]

Even at Minecraft's 10th year anniversary, Markus Perrson Notch was not invited to celebration by Microsoft. Even though he created very controversial posts on Twitter, he is still the creator of Minecraft and he deserves a spot in the event. This is disrespectful! Long live Notch.

[@TheReal_MG]

Visual Venture, I wanted to say thanks for making a video on one of the most popular video games (Minecraft). People fail to realize that popular games can be horrible inside. Also I love how the thumbnail says “Digging Deeper” and relates to Minecraft :)

[@VisualVenture]

Absolutely. I acknowledge that there are good and bad sides to everything. I would never encourage anyone to stop playing a game or not going on a specific platform, unless of course it’s PURE evil haha. But yeah Minecraft goes much deeper than what’s on the surface just like most platforms :)

[@simarkarmani4034]

I hope Visual Venture wasn't digging straight down.

[@TheReal_MG]

@@simarkarmani4034 He wasn't

[@zonko]

Thank you for mentioning the P2W problem. I'm not as active in there as before, but I was in the background investigating p2w communities and there is so much darker stuff you can find from the owner's backgrounds. I've been thinking of talking about a story I had where I found an owner connected to a **** ring.

[@CatgirlKazu]

Those asterisks are as sinister as hell. That could mean anything from "the owner had an active FetLife account" to "the community was run by the Yakuza"

[@skyboimc]

it's really cool to hear familiar stories by a channel out of the community, really enjoyed this

[@dumby2175]

I got RATed (remote access token) twice. It's brutal and the people have no humanity. I reaced out to one of them to try to strike a deal that was a win win. He said, and I quote "but I don't want you to win". Everything that Hellcastle (he made the absolute best skyblokc iceberg) said is true and does happen. Please be careful and trust no one. Only go for mods endorsed by multiple large youtubers so you can ensure that you don't get scammed. Also make sure that you make sure that you click the link IN THE DESCRIPTION of the videos and ensure that it's the same link. Also don't verify your microsoft on any discord or anything. If you do get a code, no matter what, even if they say that they're gonna help you with something do not do it. Please like this comment if you see it so it can bring as much awareness to the skyblock community.

[@dissapointingopinions4877]

Calling Notch an incel... then immediately mentioning his marriage and daughter? Did you not proof-read this script? What was even the point in that section?

[@galexian5842]

that was weird ngl

[@Jgamer-jk1bp]

I’ve seen several videos talk about the issues about Minecraft and its community, with its conflict and at time outright hostility and aggression towards the developers. I want to have my own take on it. The issue I believe is that people still want to play Minecraft and want more things of it. If Mojang decides not to satisfy player wants, then the community will eventually abandon the game. People are angry not because of entitlement, but because it is clear Mojang needs the community so they do updates, but their updates are not good enough, and it’s leaving the community frustrated. There’s game support, but nothing new or good, isn’t that frustrating? It’s like a toxic relationship. Mojang’s continuous support makes users think they care about them, but their updates are barely exciting anymore; the absolute minimum. They promised more and gave less, people have the right to be pissed. One of the previous update is a pretty good example of this, they were promised fireflies, birch forests and other features. Yet where are they? Oh yeah, in the metaphorical idea trash can because of bogus reasons. If they gave actual and genuine reasons than fine, like the Birch Forests being idea art and they decided they didn’t like how it went so they discarded it. But the reason for the fireflies were stupid, because frogs don’t actually eat them and it’s toxic. Like what??? If that’s a problem that just make it so they can’t eat them???? If ‘safety’ or ‘realism’ was an actual factor than the method to get froglights shouldn’t be added in by their own hypocritical logic. Many times they are being misleading at best, outright lying to their audience at worse. The Mob Vote is the biggest that faces this particular problem in particular, Phantoms at the time looked real cool. The others at the time weren’t that unique as one is basically Minecraft kraken, the other is a weird blob thing and the last is Blaze with beeg shields. People wanted a flying mob that isn’t a bat that only exists for ambience. However due to lack of communication and indirect misleading ideas, the phantoms are one of the most hated mobs to ever exist. The developers drastically underestimated how annoying the mechanics would be and the fanbase suffered for it.(Even if I for one personally feel that it’s irritation level is overrated, there’s an entire dedicated mechanic that allows you to never face them so if you refuse to use it than it’s your fault that you refuse to use it. Not the developers. Don’t give me the ‘oH BUt- buT ExPLOraTION!!?!!’, it’s not a particular difficult mob. Any decent aim with a bow can easily kill the things and if you can’t do that than them very terribly ramming into you give you ample time to destroy them. If you can’t even manage that then play in Peaceful Difficulty, Creative Mode or turn off the feature altogether. By that logic zombies are as annoying as phantoms and should be removed since it ‘forces’ you to sleep and is not difficult but annoying to deal with. Stop being a pussy and stop bitching about a mob that you can literally decide not to face with a click of a button or a single interaction with an object.) Later on, literally every Mob Vote that comes after faces similar expectations and communication issues time and time again. Moreover they exploit the negativity to have sell more and attract attention to the game, that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Back in my point of saying that they are lying at worst, just the previous Mob Vote they stated that ‘don’t be upset! The frogs lost the vote yet got in!!’ while conveniently hiding the fact that that’s because it’s from a Biome Vote not a Mob Vote, of which was stated explicitly to do all biomes eventually. So why did they bring up the frog in the MOB VOTE? To mislead the fandom so that they can placate displeasure. Sure I could give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that maybe they forgot the frog is from the Biome Vote, but with how they are acting? There’s a none zero chance they are intentionally misleading us to reduce the amount of heat they are getting. After all, the implications is that the mobs that lost may come back and that brings positivity so they do have a motive to mislead and trick. If what I think is true, than it shows that they have no intention of listening and would rather lie and scam than actually appease the fanbase that allows their game to remain relevant. As to who I think it’s at fault for this toxicity? To your surprise I would say both actually. Everyone has a fault on this endeavour. Mojang set high expectations for updates when they released bangers like the ocean overhaul, the villager overhaul and Nether overhaul. Thus the community loving the new content expects the same amount of quality and quantity each time. Disaster strike when the Caves And Cliffs update came, expectations weren’t met and the people were pissed. They had the right to do so, they supported the game for its good and meticulous development. However this negative attitude affected Mojang for the worse, now criminally afraid of failing expectations they became low key. The upcoming updates showing little stuff, only things they already made and dare not to promise much. This then lead to a dissatisfied community that further feeds into a loop of anger and resentment. With their poor communication and refusal to address several concerns, the spread of frustration and hostility is honestly warranted. Mojang is probably the pinnacle of ‘failing from success’, they did too well and placed unfair and difficult expectations and pressure on themselves by the community that loved their work. The Mob Vote drama of last year is the ultimate climax of that frustration, frustration that the developers practically ignored and pretended don’t exist. Letting it quietly die off instead of putting actual effort in resolving it. With all these issues and problems, I’m not surprised that the community is becoming increasingly toxic. Who wouldn’t when your beloved franchise is being given the minimum treatment that it deserves? That the once daring and extravagant developers now ‘traumatised’ by the backlash no longer willing to do big things anymore? People love Minecraft, some are even obsessed with it. That’s why so much toxicity and anger exists, because people want the things they like to progress and become better. Something that’s becoming increasingly lacklustre as time progresses. This is compounded by expectations that I do feel is outright not fair, the most current victim of misplaced expectations being the Vault Key item. People placed extreme expectations on that item and are disappointed when it… unlocks a vault. Sure the loot is underwhelming but considering it isn’t meant for late game I don’t see much of the issue except perhaps hoping for something unique. They are seriously people out there expecting a key to open a whole dimension, like sure that would be cool but there’s nothing remotely implied that it’ll do anything on that scale. Thus leading to disappointment when expectations aren’t met when they shouldn’t be such expectations to begin with. The content inadequacy is further augmented by the plentiful mods that exists on Minecraft, which for the people states that if they could do it why can’t the developers? While it is not the best comparison, I do feel like there’s some fair arguments to be made for it. Game development is different from mod development, but they aren’t completely segmented from one another. Yes some mods added things using preexisting content and mechanics, but there are plenty that introduce a whole slew of things. Like you can’t tell me that the Create mod uses only elements from the base game? Coding and programming mods while can’t be directly scaled to triple A game development isn’t a purely unfair comparison. Just like games, mods do still have considerations and the same issues that normal developers go through. Thinking how to implement stuff without braking others, which item fits into the theme? What mechanic may introduce something new and exciting. Or better yet, troubleshooting. Yes the developers have to be more considerable about these conditions and mod creators have greater freedom and looser restrictions, but that’s expected. Of course it’s harder for actual game developers, but it’s also expected. Like you are seriously telling me that a developers of the BESTSELLING GAME IN HUMAN HISTORY is unable to implement all 3 mobs that some rando could do in a basement? Are you telling me that they absolutely couldn’t work out how to implement all of those mobs in? Despite someone else being able to do so within moments of their announcement? At the end, is there a way out of this? I don’t know. It’s a cycle of expectations and failures that perpetuates itself. Telling Mojang to ‘do better’ while fair is also not conducive but faulting the fandom isn’t fair either. In any case, it’s a lose lose situation for everyone.

[@None]

In playing this game for over 10 years I’ve seen entire organized crime rings in this game who carry out various cyber crimes. This game has a huge amount of money to be made in various forms. From Minecraft servers to rare accounts its possible to make hundreds of thousands on this game alone. Minecraft is probably the single most culturally significant video game in history and with something as big and open ended as the game nobody could predict anything.

[@LitFuse230]

thank you for covering the sky situation, as I feel like it’s one of the worst if not the worst situation in the entire community

[@jestyo0o]

dude notch only said "its ok to be white" hes clearly faced some racism for him being white, you're calling him an incel over the fact hes feeling lonely and just wants a purpose in life

[@keagaming9837]

Yeah, I don't think Notch is a very great person but this video is over exaggerating everything he said and did. He isn't as bad of a person as the video implies. Twitter tends to think that being racist towards white people is ok and that if they talk back they are bad.

[@-TJGR]

He's transphobic

[@Izzy_editzzROBLOX]

I always love the wise words at the end it’s not what other ppl do and it’s really cool u should stick with that it’s 1 of my fav parts of the vid

[@HumanTimeCapsule]

So thats the story of Notch? That he sold his shares, became a sadboy who tweeted...something? I feel like theres huge lack of "horror" there

[@highbahamut6188]

he stand up against blm during the fentanyl floid riots so he has all my respect

[@Zero001LP]

Also some other stuff, but y'know.

[@HumanTimeCapsule]

@highbahamut6188 well, if he has the respect of such an ignorant bigot, then he must be pretty cool

[@land3021]

6:17 was half expecting a cave ambience sound from minecraft, since you know...

[@GSFigure]

It's really hard to expect what platform will be discussed about next when it comes to this channel. Always a surprise.

[@_M_643]

I've never been too deep in the minecraft community, mainly just watching videos about the game. I haven't noticed any problems, and I'm keeping it that way. The bigger something is, the harder it is to please everyone.

[@JediPlays0309]

this is a good video :) you didnt fear monger too hard and you just brought the issues to light. you promoted the best of the community and you got tyler to call with you thats amazing! good work!

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Who you

[@jasonchiu272]

I believe that the Minecraft community is large enough to replicate that of society: most people are neutral and are just there to exist and have fun, there are passionate people who both love and hate the game, then there are those small percentages who are toxic but are very loud.

[@Rats-are-cool]

I am glad that these problems are being brought to light! Soon I believe we can hopefully fix the minecraft community.

[@Mandalorian_John.]

Fixing communitys is not Possible

[@am_Nein]

​@@Mandalorian_John.Not fix, but heal.

[@ihaveanewchannle1188]

when pigs fly lol

[@CosmoX102]

its great to see that minecraft has probably still one of the most best fan bases. most of these dark sides were acts of only a few or single person and the cencership incident is now calmed down and nobody cares no more. sill p2w servers and those 0.00001% of fanbases should be punished for what they do

[@eareeff707]

Notch is apparently an incel because he tweeted about his divorce, great content!

[@Zero001LP]

And some other things as far as I'm aware.

[@Zero001LP]

​@@LavaCreeperPeople He's not a doctor or a scientist, just some guy who had a good idea.

[@ThanosIsUglyGD]

Bro the reply sections on this video are getting wild 💀

[@mrgodzillaraptors8632]

@@ThanosIsUglyGD get the popcorn an enjoy

[@littlegamer00]

​@@LavaCreeperPeople ...

[@davefrance4355]

Did you really just call notch an incel? God forbid someone gets sad when their marriage ends

[@Sillimant_]

I'd say the fact he was married said he fucks so he isn't celibate, therefore not an incel what a world

[@J3D1D14H]

Its normal to be sad for a while. It isnt normal to hold on to that grudge for years and blame all women for all your problems (incels)

[@kaylee84243]

Why should other women be disrespected just because of a man’s divorce? Please look over what you just said. I’m not really sure what happened, but it’s no excuse.

[@awsomebot1]

You had a wife and a child and getting divorced made you feel bitter? You might be an involuntary celibate! Learn more on this video written in the shortest time to earn the most $$$

[@papermangd]

@@kaylee84243but Notch didn’t disrespect any women.

[@CyberDevilSec]

Hey man I want to show my gratitude for this channel and your work!❤ I love how you spread this awareness about the freaks hiding in the shadows. As a hobby I like to hack criminals and expose them to the cops and etc. These videos you make also help me to know where to look and wipe out the evil people.🎉

[@pisscow6395]

If its possible can you please report "Keto the Wolf"? They're a zoosadist furry and there's evidence of it everywhere. If not that's alright but I would appreciate it!

[@Looselimbsmcgee]

Honestly even having dated a 22.5 yr old at fresh out of HS 18, and getting older and realizing how bad my ex did manipulate and gaslight me, and more, just because of the life experience and maturity you gain so quickly in those few years of adjusting to adulthood

[@writeeat7364]

I'm sorry you went through that.

[@PhoenixAce]

This is why I have some extreme concerns when I decided to become a Minecraft content creator Thankfully I can see the mistakes of others and keep any awful fans I may get onto a tight leash

[@rekitrelt]

10:30 yes most people that steal accounts use cracking methods like brute-force but what you showed in the clip is leeching, which is finding already stolen credentials uploaded on websites usually in the form of leaks, so most peoples accounts are already stolen and are being used without you knowing just some information, loved the video

[@Br0Hcess]

Favorite part of Minecraft is the music. Nothing could ever ruin it. (Hopefully)

[@CantoniaCustoms]

Microshit ruined it and now I need mods to restore it to playing c418 only

[@-TJGR]

Lena Raine and C418 are real legends, I just wish the musics were implemented better

[@MednaTheFox]

This feels like a WatchMojo list for Minecraft Drama

[@orangeportals]

shits ass, i swear low tier youtubers will do anything for a sponsor deal.

[@AdamRawlyk]

Ayo, meh boi visual venture brought on meh other boi hellcastle! This is gonna be a good video :0

[@LightReaper0]

The fact he’s promoting car insurance on a Minecraft documentary. Is hilarious.

[@michaelsasylum]

There's been dozens of high profile minecraft youtubers that turned out to be predators and abusers, and hundreds more minor ones and server operators.

[@johnlime1469]

Act 1. Wait no that's sad! Notch's family and life fell apart! And he's slowly slipping into incel community rabbit hole. Someone's gotta get him a friend. Valve, hire him. HIRE HIM! We all know how much effort you put into minimum viable products, hence literally all of your games feel fun to play, which he is an absolute prodigy at it. Act 2. Disable SINGLEPLAYER? WHAT? WHY? THAT'S SO UNNECESSARY! Act 4: Custom Minecraft maps back in 2011 used to have a community that just wanted to build and share their maps. If these rats are so rampant in simple maps, this will disencourage making connections with your friends, which is, or was, a huge strength that Kickstart so SO many trends. I still remember the VERY first Hunger Games map with the epic final battle between AntVenom and Captainsparklez (when did the rivalry stop and how did Dream's entrance affect them?). Act 5: _s k y d o e s m i n e c r a f t_

[@Mineoutain]

Don’t forget the servers that got banned illegal content and classified information. The number of people who were involved in that was something else!

[@awsomebot1]

"Notch is an incel (involuntary celibate) who was married and had a child." What? Was this script written by an AI?

[@mvslice]

Inceldom isn't just virginity: it's broken men who think women can , and have a duty, to fix them. They're just sad/pathetic men who refuse to grow

[@Elro_o]

Not gonna lie , i was expecting more from this video .

[@cubicinfinity2]

I downvoted it.

[@cubicinfinity2]

Just, because it focuses on things it didn't need to. I'd rather just be upset with Microsoft.

[@imselfaware419]

@@cubicinfinity2 Then you missed the point of the video

[@JayDee-c8f]

​@@cubicinfinity2 are you some kind of jury or just forgot this isn't Reddit?

[@cubicinfinity2]

@@JayDee-c8f Hehe. Probably.

[@RaspberryClout]

Always glad to see people spreading awareness of the darkside of Minecraft. Unfortunately, as people who have been involved in the darkside, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The real darkness within the community goes far down the rabbithole

[@worldcollapse]

"Notch is an incel" I'm dying 😂😂😂

[@augustinecabello2185]

One slight correction: the profanity filters are only on Bedrock edition. Java edition only bans you for illegal/harmful/abusive messages. Of course I still don't agree with the system because of how exploitable it is.

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

The reminder that Jschlatt pulling a entire genocide against a chunk of dream's stanbase out of his twitch.. That was the best gift for 2021 christmas for me

[@natycrap]

You forgot to mention the mental abuse that goes into MAKING Minecraft "Let's Start a vote, so players can have fun OUTSIDE of the game" they said "GRRRRRRR LETS ATTACK THE DEVS" we said

[@cc0d]

i have been playing minecraft since i was 6 years old. The Minecraft community can be horrible sometimes. Thanks for addressing this.

[@Tangologic0]

the one thing many rich people have in common is being lonely or depression. When Markus Persson(Notch) had a family, he had a purpose in life... when he didn't, he had nothing. Instead of improving his life, getting into shape or striving for a higher goal, he decided to lay around like a bum. Yes, his wife left him, but he still brought a child into the world. He didn't lose anything. He lacked accomplishment and masculine energy. Yes, you can say his big accomplishment was the Birth of Minecraft, but also his daughter, not to compare those two. His life would be a lot better if he would work on his body and not his feelings.

[@StxnceUK]

In my opinion, this video is 20 minutes of overedited surface level knowledge that portrays itself to be some deep, thought provoking dive into the subject. Pretty dissapointing that most of the talking points dont really offer any form of original perspective or analysis beyond "x thing was bad".

[@tenryuu]

Interesting look into the dark side of the Minecraft community, though I am a little disappointed that there wasn't any mention of some of the more horrific Dream fanart, especially the ones where he becomes a human chair.

[@denialman2808]

@@dedenine3042Why do you want the link?

[@dimitrifake53]

You can make these videos for infinit time, every community has a shit bucket.

[@finn_bee_]

It’s more disgusting how people hate on innocent dream fans who are just enjoying a youtuber’s content.

[@TheTotallyRandomGuy]

Man, 2013-2018 really was the golden years for Minecraft. Sad to see what it’s become, I sure hope it doesn’t get worse, and that Microsoft fixes their stupid mistakes.

[@infamousgrieferpopbob]

2012-2016*

[@StarryInkArt]

Agreed 😢

[@comedylad8938]

I'm glad you've actually covered the flaws of the Minecraft community and how a margin of the playerbase consists of either toxic losers or weirdos... the more something is adapted to the masses, the more creeps & 4chan lurkers you may come across. In fact, I'd like to propose the idea of showcasing how much of a jagged, double-edged sword the UNDERTALE community is, given how it's easy to stumble on hot garbage as it is to find neat ideas, from the success of Jakei to the rise & fall of Camila Cuevas, to Toby's reasons to fear the loud minority of the fandom's... 'interests' and generally the huge history behind UNDERTALE AUs. The UNDERTALE community is a HUGE rabbit hole that many people tend to underlook due to whispers from other people saying only purely negative or (VERY RARELY) purely positive light...

[@Reliccontent]

2:16 so you called him a incel because he’s rightfully unhappy about divorce his words weren’t even that harsh

[@Micecheese]

12:29 is the only side that'd get me to buy in if i had the huge spare money to just throw fun in the moment but passed out months in at most

[@Red_Foxx]

I really enjoyed this channel but i dont think you did enough “digging” pun intended and showing all the facts and i feel like there was mostly there was mostly one side of the argument for notch

[@rafaelcarmona415]

i got my account banned not only from minecraft but from the whole website on microsoft and i can’t use that email, and it’s crazy how i didn’t do anything and never got reasons or never got unbanned, i hate you microsoft.

[@pingufangoofyahh4098]

0:02 Club penguin: Am i a joke to you?

[@Brydav_Massbear]

It disappoints me how my favorite game is the nesting ground for such opportunistic crooks. Then again, if something becomes big enough, it is bound to attract a few parasites.

[@ZetQo]

9:32 - Minecraft's Criminal Underworld Jokes on you, I dont know how to install mods!

[@keagaming9837]

Good video! I've been a Minecraft player for 8 years now. For a long time I didn't think the Minecraft community was very toxic or bad but in recent years I've started to really notice the toxicity! It was also when I left the left and the inners of the Minecraft community that I realized how toxic it really was! I think all of the Dream controversies really showed how toxic Minecraft players can be. I don't think some parts are as bad as the video says, but yeah overall this is pretty accurate! The sky and argo situations need to be talked a whole lot more in the community, there are more evil people than this video suggests. Honestly, a lot of the Minecraft community's toxicity and bad things especially on Reddit and Twitter are just because those places are filled with toxic woke people just in general and that's the nature of those platforms. I understand the hate of the mob votes and all, but yeah now that I play Minecraft without being as active in the Minecraft community I see how toxic things are! D: I love Minecraft, I wish the community wasn't so bad! Not everyone is toxic and bad, but the most toxic and mentally unstable people are the most noticeable! D:

[@Khbzs]

Mf called notch an incel because he misses ex wife.

[@The-pe7mq]

Doesn't even make sense, he has a child

[@SlappoLS]

Fr this guy got no respect 🤣

[@menjolno]

It is just a joke 😒😒

[@trees7878]

@@menjolno what do you mean a joke? you're saying all of his videos are a joke or what?

[@27op0qks]

​@@menjolnojokes are supposed to be funny

[@mrkaram4447]

Your style is just different.. I love this channel man!

[@kyudomo]

A lot of the things covered are really informative, while I'm not a fan of Notch after what he said on twitter, I don't think you covered WHY he sold minecraft with enough detail. The reason for him selling his share was because Mojang and him pushed new EULA changes (end user license agreement, basically the document server owners have to agree to before hosting their minecraft servers). These changes (should've) removed P2W systems that sell in-game items for money. But the community harassed him non-stop and eventually led to that negative POV and selling his share to microsoft

[@cuh-mila]

bro visual venture is my fav youtube channel i stg the quality and positivity is on another level 🙏🙏

[@stormhought]

Said Notch was an incel, Provided no reason why he was.

[@Sillimant_]

what else is new

[@BillyBasd]

A rat is a *type* of malware. Rat = Remote Access Toolkit Think malevolent remote desktop or help desk software. Once a RAT is installed on your computer with admin/root access, the controller of the RAT can do anything on your internet connected computer.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

This is one reason I never save passwords to my computer. And Notch is a great guy.

[@keagaming9837]

Yeah! I don't think Notch is nearly as bad as the video says he is. He isn't exactly great but I don't think he is an incel. He has his problems but Twitter is taking this too far.

[@JackDL2058]

As a part of this community, I hate pay to win games. Im not sure what it was called, but there was a server that forced you to pay to enter it. On switch, joining new servers is a strange process of ip adresses and other stuff (my friend plays switch), which means that a switch player could spend hours getting onto a server just to be forced to pay €20 to even play anything.

[@RicardoPaw99]

It is a shame minecraft isnt really the same anymore

[@28_futaba]

Wdym

[@RicardoPaw99]

@@28_futaba it will never really (and never has felt) feel the same as it did when I was younger, it (to me, at least) will never compare to playing pocket edition on my mom’s tablet or old xbox 360 edition on my dad’s xbox the game is heading in a different direction now

[@StarryInkArt]

Agreed.

[@xman8908]

@@RicardoPaw99 No isn't because you not a kid anymore and the game doesn't feel new. You probably have beaten the game many times over and know everything about the game and still play it. That's why it isn't the game isn't the same.

[@estheriel_1423]

I primarily play minecraft for nostalgia, and playing on home servers, and also play before 1.19. I kind of miss the old minecraft... Hopefully people will do more about this...

[@markpark69]

Amazing content as always, thank you for bringing these issues about Minecraft to light, Visual Venture. I have been watching your whole Darkest Internet Documentaries series and I feel rather enlightened, please keep it up!

[@VisualVenture]

Appreciate you 🙏🏽 and thank you for taking the time to watch them

[@markpark69]

@@VisualVenture You're welcome, your content is amazing and worthy of attention, cheers 👍

[@Jakelikesthedrums]

You should check out the toxicity behind crystal pvp. There's all kinds of bad stuff like ddossing, doxxing, and swatting.

[@WendigoRin]

Notch deserved better, in-fact he still does. I wonder how things could have gone if he never "sold his soul."