Vital's 2023 Enduro MTB Test Session

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@rubenvor
@rubenvor 11 ай бұрын
Impressive how the Specialized Enduro is still up to date against newer bikes. Well designed bike! 🎯
@LB-kg2xh
@LB-kg2xh 11 ай бұрын
2022 comp is on sale for 3800. not many people need more performance than that. I love mine, from dowhill parks to hillside flow trails in AK.
@cberg9480
@cberg9480 11 ай бұрын
@@LB-kg2xh bought one this summer at that price. I a my selling my all-mountain bike because of how well this bike peddles.
@rubenvor
@rubenvor 11 ай бұрын
@@LB-kg2xh 3800!!! that's nice for such a bike. I just bought a used enduro frame on PB for 1400, I guess I should have waited.
@lifebehindbarsonemansstory2189
@lifebehindbarsonemansstory2189 11 ай бұрын
Bought mine 2021 still going strong over 4,000 hard miles if your racing that bike is fast af
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 10 ай бұрын
Except it’s a Specialized bike. Nothing wrong with the bike, but everyone and their Mom has one. So if you’re someone like me, who likes to be different, we tend to stay away from big name brands.
@the510wagon
@the510wagon 10 ай бұрын
This was such a great review & video for me! I'm 191 cms and about 100-105 kgs kitted-up to ride....so to have these talented guys test all-XL bikes, and then talk about bikes in the context of a taller rider, was a bit of a dream. Bike reviews never really talk about XL bikes & riders. Stack height & reach are such a big deal for us tall guys. And the chosen field of bikes was a really good mix of the new designs with high pivots.... and the tried & tested frames. I also appreciate the honesty about some of the things that were not so good - too many reviews are just glowingly positive. Thank you Vital, this one was fantastic.
@Composit.Design
@Composit.Design 2 ай бұрын
Same here - 100kgs and 6'2" and I have a real issue with most trail bikes making me feel super hunched over. This was a dream come true.
@archiebromfield
@archiebromfield 11 ай бұрын
It's so nice to see XL bikes being reviewed! It's hard to find anywhere to get an opinion on XL sized bikes and how they ride or fit. Sick!
@superawesomefuntimego
@superawesomefuntimego 11 ай бұрын
I've been running the Canyon Strive CFR for a few months now and have been blown away with how good it is. Lucked out and nabbed one on sale for $4199, which was nuts for full XTR and Fox Factory kit. Previously had a Propain Tyee and Evil Wreckoning and I feel more at home on the Strive. I am 5'10" and generally ride a Large, but sized down to the M with the strive and it was the right choice, as the bike is LONG. It can get reasonably light as well replacing the heavy alloy bar and wheels with carbon bits (OneUp bar and i9 carbon wheels), it got down to 33.5lbs (without pedals). I also replaced the dropper with a 200mm wolf tooth, as 170mm is not enough. The shapeshifter is slick, although I have accidentally left it engaged on some a fast and rooty tech trail and paid the price (physical beat down), the rear for sure is stiff in that setting (although I funnily enough set a PR). The Deviate for sure looks good to me, but that price tag....ouch.
@BenSch100
@BenSch100 11 ай бұрын
How is the durability of the bike? Any headset creaking or broken parts?
@superawesomefuntimego
@superawesomefuntimego 11 ай бұрын
@@BenSch100 No issues to date, bike has been rock solid other than me breaking a spoke. No bolts have even worked loose in my about 500 miles of riding so far (I check before every ride). I did get a little weird behavior with the shapeshifter at first before I got the pressure set correctly for my weight, but it has been problem free since.
@Wizler71
@Wizler71 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for discussing "size up vs size down". At 5' 10" it's been a confusing issue for me as I consider a new bike in M/L. Depends on the brand or the model or my style or the intended terrain... sheesh! It's a great reminder to test ride any bike I'm serious about buying.
@Bonky-wonky
@Bonky-wonky 11 ай бұрын
This. The same reach can feel quite different on multiple bikes.
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 11 ай бұрын
If you ride more tight technical trails and focus on cornering you can size down. If you ride fast downhill tracks and want more stability size up. Not that hard to figure out.
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree bro I Need a medium/large bike with short cranks and low standover ✅
@SubversionGarage
@SubversionGarage 11 ай бұрын
If you know what length reach you prefer, then start there. I am also 5’10”, and normally prefer a mid 400mm reach. After trying a few different models in the 450-475mm range, ended up with an S4 Stumpy Evo.
@inseinej1
@inseinej1 11 ай бұрын
Honestly even demoing you're not going to be able to tell awhole lot.
@userbosco
@userbosco 11 ай бұрын
The Trek's chain drop seems to be a legit deficiency. Other reviewers are experiencing the same issue. Shame.
@erraldstyler
@erraldstyler 10 ай бұрын
yeah, its now out for me.
@Cajo22
@Cajo22 10 ай бұрын
Congrats guys! 👏 Bike tests&reviews are getting better and better! Simple and honest opinions…the opposite of Pinkbike that are getting worst, elitist and boring, specially since Levy left and that english guy arrived!! Keep it going…
@mattyoakum7615
@mattyoakum7615 10 ай бұрын
Finally a review for us tall people that ride XL bikes. Love the long format video and the guys doing the review. Very informative too. Great job!
@jacobfurbee5409
@jacobfurbee5409 10 ай бұрын
A review for the lanky lads is appreciated
@robertnijhuis4218
@robertnijhuis4218 10 ай бұрын
To address the deviates linkage longevity concerns, the bikes made to be ridden in Scotland. A few friends of mine have it up in Scotland, the linkage is make to be greases and has loads of protection for the bearings. He’s been running the same bearings for over a year now 🤙
@John-shreds
@John-shreds 11 ай бұрын
The intro is so fun! Not saying you compete with pink bike, but this is much more fun to watch.
@thescandiflick
@thescandiflick 11 ай бұрын
I ride the Mega 275 with 165mm rear and a coil shock , it’s magical
@Gigagoalie
@Gigagoalie 11 ай бұрын
At last a comprehensive review video we can actually get an idea on what these bikes are like to ride and have.
@jamesc6876
@jamesc6876 11 ай бұрын
Agree 100% Need all bikes tested this well
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 11 ай бұрын
Vital usually has the best reviews out of the major media companies
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Glad you all liked the review and our feedback on the bikes! Credit to Logan Brown for editing our ramblings down into a coherent format. I think we had about 3000 hours of us talking by the end of the week@@durrantmiller8810
@richardkovanda7578
@richardkovanda7578 11 ай бұрын
Good to hear you mostly chose Mega, that's exactly why I built one for 3,5 grand back in July and it's fenomenal bike and bargain!
@ccallure
@ccallure 11 ай бұрын
Great video guys! Love the format and feedback from experienced riders. I learned a lot.
@bicycledreams7078
@bicycledreams7078 11 ай бұрын
The thing about sizing down is then the stack is even lower, and you guys were complaining the stack was too low on all but one of the XL bikes already. Then to compensate you have to run a super long steer tube, which shortens the reach even more than you probably want. Give us more 480mm reach XL bikes.
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
🎯Yup, or really tall weird looking handlebars. It's weird out there for tall guys trying to fit on bikes. I take comfort in knowing that other industries are also awful and catering to bigger and smaller customers (like the car industry, which is a much, much, much bigger industry).
@syblackpearl
@syblackpearl 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Charlie! Great analysis of the enduro bikes that you guys tested.
@Coolcmsc
@Coolcmsc 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! It’s a shame you are unable to have the correct size for each of you. It makes it really hard to work out exactly what you guys think. But honesty must come first and you were honest. I’m being honest too. 😊
@kaseykohler1490
@kaseykohler1490 11 ай бұрын
I swear the new sram clutch is still not strong enough. I put the new transmission on my bike and the chain slaps against the derailleur body constantly. Shimano still makes a better clutch system as you can dial it in and rebuild it! Wireless is nice but it’s got me thinking of going back to cables
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
We think that mightve been the reason for the dropped chain, curious if a Shimano clutch would do better or maybe a larger chainring for more chain wrap.
@BenSch100
@BenSch100 11 ай бұрын
Great comprehensive test! Funny that you would size down on most bikes! Nice shredding! 🤟
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 10 ай бұрын
Probably cause they're planning on throwing it around more since it's an enduro, and it's easier to make a smaller bike feel bigger than vice versa.
@AndreasHafenscher
@AndreasHafenscher 10 ай бұрын
Thanx. That video helps a lot. I’ll buy the Rode. Thanks
@angelfalcon2452
@angelfalcon2452 6 ай бұрын
Im about buying the canyon but im 2m and idk if it is too small for me 😅😅
@tim__sadler
@tim__sadler 11 ай бұрын
What would make sense would be a test of the 2023 EDR bikes the teams ran (in the closest public available spec) - maybe the top five at the end of the season?
@eric_msf
@eric_msf 11 ай бұрын
Totally in love of Mega, true do it all machine
@chrismade123
@chrismade123 11 ай бұрын
all are very good, id go for the one that has most space in triangle
@wallyedmonds8199
@wallyedmonds8199 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@krispykruzer
@krispykruzer 7 ай бұрын
No commencal ?
@nickfragedakis5511
@nickfragedakis5511 11 ай бұрын
I love that Nukeproof pre-wraps their bikes. I don't know why this isn't an Industry standard. Every company should do this. When spending $5K minimum on a bike anyone would want it protected.
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
Such an underrated detail they really did a good job with. Would love to see more companies do the same rather than the usual bits of coverage here and there.
@Eric.V.
@Eric.V. 11 ай бұрын
That rear end on the Intense 😮😳
@jordanmackay3568
@jordanmackay3568 11 ай бұрын
Currently on a kenevo SL S4 at 6ft 2. I feel like 485 reach just isn't enough for me so I'm getting an S5. 35mm stem and 40mm rise bars plus I'm going to bump up the front tavel to 180 to match the over stroked rear. Race bike for next year
@ernst_42
@ernst_42 11 ай бұрын
could you find out the reason for the chaindrop? did you find a fix for it?
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
We had such a limited time during our test we weren't able to get too into the weeds sleuthing possible causes or solutions, but I'd love to know myself. According to Trek, derailments can be due to the lower guide wheel being out of alignment from the factory and adding a 2mm spacer to the ISCG tabs can fix it. We weren't aware of that possible remedy during the test so we can't say if that fix works, but it'd be great if it did. Kinda crazy to be dropping chains with so many chain retention doodads involved (narrow/wide ring, two chainguides, clutch derailleur, idlers to correct chain growth, etc). We also think the clutch on the AXS Transmission derailleur was basically gone by the end of the test, which obviously isn't ideal for chain retention.
@preston5577
@preston5577 11 ай бұрын
Curious as to what pants you guys are wearing? I’m also 6’3 and struggle to find pants that cover the ankles for mtb
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
Two of us were wearing the Fox Ranger pants, Lear was wearing Rennen I believe. Another great option are the Troy Lee Skyline pants, they have a little more length than the Fox.
@waynephilbert
@waynephilbert 10 ай бұрын
Dharco make long pants, and you can get extensions to sew onto the legs if required. I'm 34+" inseam and they fit very well.
@Mavo1989
@Mavo1989 10 ай бұрын
its the ohlins suspension, really needed to have a commencal in this mix with there new enduro
@jameswhiteley3095
@jameswhiteley3095 10 ай бұрын
@vitalMTB Can you give me the height and weight of the riders. Do they usually ride XL bikes?
@1brenmaster
@1brenmaster 11 ай бұрын
You haven't lived until you try a Mega paired with the fast coil. Trek definitely have chain problems with that bike.
@jimrose470
@jimrose470 8 ай бұрын
Really like the video and commentary, one suggestion is to ease up on the slow Mo. It would be nice for reference to see what some of these shots and clips look like in real time, not just all in slow mo.
@ssjj9584
@ssjj9584 8 ай бұрын
Dario setup is money
@MarioXcore1
@MarioXcore1 11 ай бұрын
now I'm sad big bear is closed
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Us too
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 10 ай бұрын
I'd still take my 2021 Pivot Mach 6 (full 27.5) over any bike that has been released since. Perfect for park days!
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 Ай бұрын
No Norco’s?
@bryanwells3425
@bryanwells3425 5 ай бұрын
filling them hoops with water in the lake XD
@307.William
@307.William 11 ай бұрын
Still love my 21 patrol 🤷🏽‍♂️
@elslanedog1264
@elslanedog1264 11 ай бұрын
Lewis Buchanan got rid of his Slash after two weeks because he couldn’t get the chain to stay on. Seems like a systemic problem and not just a one off. Serious QC oversight in trying to rush the bike out and damaging the reputation of what was one of the best enduro bikes available. Could we even see a product recall in the near future?
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
We tried adding more chain tension like Lewis did to try and solve the problem with no luck. We’ve been told that the incorrect number of spacers were installed from the factory behind the MRP chainguide. We didnt have time to try it during the test but an additional 2mm of spacing from the iscg tabs seems to be the solution. Hopefully thats an easy and effective long term solution for those who have already bought one!
@travelpackgamerz
@travelpackgamerz 11 ай бұрын
Those bike expansive in my country can buy a car, I just own cheap Polygon Siskiu D7 and consider expansive in my country Malaysia.
@krabo83
@krabo83 11 ай бұрын
the mega has 160 in the rear according to nukeproof.
@tomnutting3836
@tomnutting3836 11 ай бұрын
Mega 290s have 160mm 275/297 and you get 165mm
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Yup our bad, Jonny said 170 in the voiceover but we corrected in the video by noting the 160mm travel in a text box. With 6 bikes on test and different travel numbers for different models in the manufacter's lineup, it's a lot of stats to keep track of!
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 5 ай бұрын
Apparently, it comes in at 162mm when measured
@hannesnohl8627
@hannesnohl8627 11 ай бұрын
Why is there a factory shock on your Canyon?
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Great question. The short answer is that's what Canyon shipped us. It's confusing because in the voice over Jonny says the bike has a Performance Elite shock (which is an all black shock), but in the video clip the bike clearly has the Factory shock with a Kashima shaft. The complete bike from Canyon really does come stock with the all black Performance Elite shock, but because the only difference between those two shocks is the color of the shaft, we didn't worry about it too much in our review. If you buy the bike, I believe it will arrive with an all black Performance Elite shock, and that was the point Jonny was trying to emphasize.
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
I think it had to do with the recent update Fox put out for the Float X2 to correct the reliability issues theyve been having. Canyon either threw an updated shock on for us so we wouldnt have any issues, or they swapped their inventory for updated shocks and received Factory shocks in return.
@wallyedmonds8199
@wallyedmonds8199 11 ай бұрын
I’m leaning towards the Canyon
@johnconnolly2815
@johnconnolly2815 11 ай бұрын
no Nomad nor HD6?
@yousafkhanbikes
@yousafkhanbikes 10 ай бұрын
Where’s the nukeproof giga?
@thegibbonisreal
@thegibbonisreal 11 ай бұрын
Charles failed the 180 challenge for the Indian giver.
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
I know, it doesn't count. I'm sorry. Lear pretty much killed me on the 180 challenge
@dyslexiusmaximus
@dyslexiusmaximus 11 ай бұрын
love it when every bike on test is out of my budget 😥
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Mine too! Luckily the best bike is often the one you already have.
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
We also have a budget bike test coming down the pipeline in the coming weeks!
@dyslexiusmaximus
@dyslexiusmaximus 11 ай бұрын
@@JonnySimonetti sweet ✌
@45H4W
@45H4W 10 ай бұрын
Lewis Buchanan binned his Trek due to chain the issues.
@stevenkilleen8149
@stevenkilleen8149 11 ай бұрын
Mega should be tested with rockshox
@mtbandoutdoorfunwej2771
@mtbandoutdoorfunwej2771 9 ай бұрын
gIANT rEIGN ALL THE WAY
@ToysRUsKid_Critter
@ToysRUsKid_Critter 11 ай бұрын
Anything from Pole
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 10 ай бұрын
Every bike is overpriced. The end
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 11 ай бұрын
Ride the bike you have. Just be a better rider. It is much cheaper than supporting the bloated bike industry.
@Michael_11
@Michael_11 11 ай бұрын
Why include the Enduro when it's now a 3 year old bike with a new one rumoured just around the corner.
@michaelgoodwin593
@michaelgoodwin593 11 ай бұрын
Because its excellent and considered a benchmark, even now.
@Michael_11
@Michael_11 11 ай бұрын
@@michaelgoodwin593 try telling it's seat tube angle, just think as good as it might be something that hasn't already been reviewed to death might be nice to see.
@michaelgoodwin593
@michaelgoodwin593 11 ай бұрын
@@Michael_11 Big deal, the anti squat is so good the seat angle is irrelevant. Whole point is it set the standard for all bikes in the last 4 years or so and its still relevant now. Probably still will be in another 4 years.
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Great question! Short answer: that's what Specialized shipped us. We specifically asked them if they had a newer/later/greater bike like the Stumpy Evo that they'd like us to test instead, but they said the Enduro is their 170mm bike and it's still a solid bike 3 years later and we tended to agree. We can't wait to get our hands on the new under-the-bb Enduro that's rumored to be coming out sometime, but until then this bike is what Specialized has in this travel bracket. Some of our testers didn't like the slack seat angle, I happened to like it.
@Michael_11
@Michael_11 11 ай бұрын
@@charliesponsel5091 Thanks for the answer but why not go to a different brand when Specialized don't have anything new to offer and plenty of others do.
@bubbastard
@bubbastard 11 ай бұрын
The new Slash is a lemon, they all drop chains, every single ride. Pretty poor product development from Trek, do better.
@dgw6448
@dgw6448 10 ай бұрын
I feel like this can be fixed pretty easily. It's a failure in a small accessory to the bike. Like saying a faulty dropper post makes a whole bike a lemon. I think they'll resolve it & everything will be fine
@bubbastard
@bubbastard 10 ай бұрын
Maybe, still Trek should never allowed this bike out the door to consumers as it is. That's very damning in my eyes, but not that surprising. Treks had a lot of poor bikes over the years.
@nathanmester5570
@nathanmester5570 10 ай бұрын
I disagree I have a new gen 6 and I’ve put it through hell without dropping a chain, form your own opinion don’t take someone else’s
@bubbastard
@bubbastard 10 ай бұрын
@@nathanmester5570 Yeah I have formed my own opinion thanks
@TheCureThatKillz
@TheCureThatKillz 10 ай бұрын
I have a new Slash and I’ve never dropped a chain one single time
@Bonky-wonky
@Bonky-wonky 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Nukeproof would suit a lot of people.. let’s hope they will find an investor and continue making great bikes for great prices!
@tomnutting3836
@tomnutting3836 11 ай бұрын
I ride one and it’s an absolutely legendary bike! They’ll survive, the products and following are too good not to
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 11 ай бұрын
The are ending North American operations. Vitus too.
@joehoeper3941
@joehoeper3941 11 ай бұрын
I believe it's "nuclear proof"
@jonathanhowson6420
@jonathanhowson6420 10 ай бұрын
great bikes, but the bearings are poor and custom to the frame
@gary431
@gary431 4 ай бұрын
This didn't age the way we would have liked😢.
@collinmcballin
@collinmcballin 10 ай бұрын
I'm such a sucker for the Deviate. Freaking bike is incredible! 13 months on it now and I've yet to go on a ride I'm not impressed like day one. We'll done team!
@overweightbadger
@overweightbadger 11 ай бұрын
Mega is one of the best bikes I've ever had for do it all, mullet with the extra 5mm on a coil has so much rear grip and it's so playful just picks up off of any little lip you find on a trail, climbs really well as well! Hopefully they sort their cash issues out and carry on as I'll be gutted if they go also their wheels are the only wheels I've had that haven't died on an Alps trip!
@bmw_rninety_scrambler6916
@bmw_rninety_scrambler6916 10 ай бұрын
100% I have a mega but I have an alloy frame because idk how much I trust carbon 😂 but yeah I absolutely love my bike. completely eats up steep and face rough sections. Always outrunning my mates on the fast trails
@ed3829
@ed3829 6 ай бұрын
Mega 297 owner here. Love it. Damn, though. The company is over and warranty is too
@francisdee9955
@francisdee9955 11 ай бұрын
riding a mega with an ext coil shock and a zeb. its a monster
@alexptdmg
@alexptdmg 11 ай бұрын
Love my Claymore, and as far a reliability, it s been close to a year and haven't done bearings yet. Johnny knows what i ride!
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
Thats awesome to hear it's been worry-free considering what it costs!
@justinlillie8281
@justinlillie8281 11 ай бұрын
Good to include the Enduro as it is still relevant and available.
@hudsonlucier7646
@hudsonlucier7646 11 ай бұрын
the chain drop lives on! This bike will have a refresh within two years to fix it I think it's time to hold off until that is done.
@julianrime8544
@julianrime8544 11 ай бұрын
I'm 6'2 but some of these larges are getting too long even for me. 475mm reach is the sweet spot for me but hey I'm not that big of a tech guy
@tomnutting3836
@tomnutting3836 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m 6’6 and on a 505 reach, I had a 520 reach and it was way too long to be any fun or have any real control and accuracy
@brucehumphries6889
@brucehumphries6889 3 ай бұрын
Really like how you guys weren’t afraid to change the bars if needed. Some of the short travel/XC shootouts could learn a thing or two about this. Don’t just say you’d think the bike would handle better with a longer stem, change it and let us all know.
@jerridstory2531
@jerridstory2531 Ай бұрын
lol xc guys can’t change bars
@yodecaf
@yodecaf 11 ай бұрын
Watched the whole thing! You guys have a good repoire and discuss alot of relevant things. I would have liked to see 2021s "winner" be put up as a control bike. It just helps keep it in perspective.
@JonnySimonetti
@JonnySimonetti 11 ай бұрын
Thats a great idea, I think we’ll try to do that for the next one or pick our favorite enduro bike of the year to include.
@bogdangrigorbranding
@bogdangrigorbranding 11 ай бұрын
Yes, mega test ! Had both the Enduro (S4) and the Nukeproof (XL). Insane ammount of performance for (now used) amazing value. The enduro is suuuper potent and the nukeproof is the same but insanely good on climbs and very playful. Nice jov VitalMTB!
@bogdangrigorbranding
@bogdangrigorbranding 11 ай бұрын
yep, hurts to see a brand like that die because of other biz money issues...@@pebbleinspector
@liamwadman2828
@liamwadman2828 11 ай бұрын
The deviate's got grease ports on the idler and frame bearings - so if you stay on top of that, you can ideally need to the invasive /expensive bearing maintenance less (I own a highlander).
@jpezman1
@jpezman1 11 ай бұрын
Where's the other big dogs like the SB160, Mega Tower and Firebird ex. ? Id love to see comparison to these bikes also
@Samson-ej5sp
@Samson-ej5sp 6 ай бұрын
I know the video was good but was missing a good chunk of bikes
@lifebehindbarsonemansstory2189
@lifebehindbarsonemansstory2189 11 ай бұрын
Don’t matter how fast the bike is if the chain falls off in race 🤬
@AlgerianAce
@AlgerianAce 5 ай бұрын
Vital MTB, I know its too much to ask, but there is a lot of Urban rider out there. When i used to live in Algeria, there were no bike parks. And any bike we bought used to break very fast under urban environments. It would be cool if you could review which bikes perform best jumping stairs, flat drops constantly… Thanks.
@g.wilsondh8407
@g.wilsondh8407 11 ай бұрын
Great reviews, I enjoyed every second of this video
@jamlee344
@jamlee344 11 ай бұрын
You need to size down on the Strive. Their sizing is whack. I feel they should have made an XS instead of an XL. It's sick in the medium (large other brands) but i feel the front center would be too long on the xl which is what you were describing. The bike is insane for the money.
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
I agree, based on our experience on the bike I think it's a pretty safe rule to size down one size from what the Canyon sizing chart recommends, i.e. think of the XL as an XXL, think of the large as an XL, etc. I think Jack Moir sized down two sizes when he got on the current Strive in 2022.
@BasicBodThor
@BasicBodThor 11 ай бұрын
Trek has a serious issue with the chain dropping...this is the third channel I've heard that from
@BryanHoefer
@BryanHoefer 11 ай бұрын
It seems like the Trek dropping chains is showing up in more and more ride reviews. I'd guess the chain is coming off between the idler and chainring.
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting to investigate this more. Maybe a gopro mounted to the bike or a high speed camera to see what exactly is happening when the chain is coming off. According to Trek, derailments can be due to the lower guide wheel being out of alignment from the factory and adding a 2mm spacer to the ISCG tabs can fix it. We weren't aware of that possible remedy during the test so we can't say if that fix works, but it'd be great if it did. Kinda crazy to be dropping chains with so many chain retention doodads involved (narrow/wide ring, two chainguides, clutch derailleur, idlers to correct chain growth, etc).
@BryanHoefer
@BryanHoefer 11 ай бұрын
@charliesponsel5091 A lot of the high pivot DH bikes have a surprising amount of chain slack between the idler and the chainring as the suspension compresses. It's easy to see on the Vital slow motion bike abuse videos from the World Cup. I'm assuming something similar is happening here. If there is any misalignment between the idler and the chainring + slack chain = dropped chain. If the chain comes off between the idler and chainring, the tensioner pulley behind the chainring can't do anything.
@boxinggloves87
@boxinggloves87 10 ай бұрын
Nuklearproof duudes 😎🤘 Giga would beat them 😁
@coastqr5123
@coastqr5123 10 ай бұрын
I wanna see the new Propain Tyee 6!
@davea8212
@davea8212 10 ай бұрын
Love this. At 6'4" its great to get larger bikes reviews. Charlie and Lear said they would size down on the Enduro to an S4. Article says they are 6'3". What about Jonny? Would he also size down at 6'4". Stack seems quite low on the S4 for taller riders?
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 10 ай бұрын
Jonny liked the S5. I think in terms of sizing, Jonny liked longer reaches, I liked shorter ones, and Lear was in the middle. I also think Lear was oversprung on the shock when he was riding the Enduro, but he disagrees. Obviously I'm right.
@McLOVIN_456
@McLOVIN_456 11 ай бұрын
I‘m missing a Santa Cruz Nomad here!
@alexford5214
@alexford5214 9 ай бұрын
I see the Sprindex coils in use. Ive found mine to have very little difference between 610-690. Was hoping for more variance
@alexkachlakev7324
@alexkachlakev7324 11 ай бұрын
Question for @charliesponsel5091 …could you expand on the comment you made about being able to get an air spring to behave more linearly than a coil? Seems counterintuitive but the robot seems to know suspension well!
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
Great question. Because air shocks are so inherently progressive, there are air shocks that have been designed with the singleminded goal of making them more linear, to the point that some air shocks almost feel less progressive than a coil shock. The Float X2, the old RS Vivid, and (I think) the new Vivid are great examples of this. Especially on the Float X2 or the old RS Monarch Debonair where you're able to add volume reducers to the negative spring as well as the positive spring, you can make an air shock more linear by adding volume reducers to the negative spring and taking them out of the positive chamber. This will allow you to run very low pressures while achieving the same sag and top end feel, while giving you essentially no bottom out resistance. So that's one potential way to overcome the effects of a frame that's "too progressive." Hope that makes sense.
@alexkachlakev7324
@alexkachlakev7324 11 ай бұрын
That’s actually really interesting! I didn’t think there was a way to make a shock’s air spring digressive, since like you said, compressing air is an inherently progressive process. So would that partially be down to the ratio of positive to negative air volume that is affecting how linear an air spring is/feels?
@mirkorinozuzuri
@mirkorinozuzuri 11 ай бұрын
I rate the intense tracer! I have owned once since they were released with the ohlins coil at the back. Extremely fun. I race occasionally but otherwise just like those progression days looking for gnarly features. I guess it's not the smoothest at high speed compressions but I don't think it's completely out of place. What it lacks in the compartment it excels in generating speed and playing around on fun side features you might find on the trail. Super low stand over height too. I've got tiny legs and was able to accommodate 175mm drop (adjustable post from 180mm) on size MD which I was quite surprised with :). Pedals well enough too!
@cberg9480
@cberg9480 11 ай бұрын
Love these compassion videosz
@xav_1029
@xav_1029 11 ай бұрын
Funny that every time a reviewer brings up the Slash chain dropping issue, they try to balance it out with “but it’s my fav bike”. Dropping chains is worse than headset routing, small dropper, weird bars and stem, etc.
@rodolforubio1824
@rodolforubio1824 11 ай бұрын
Great review guys thanks for show the things as they are , and simplicity. Jonathon I saw you review test of the status and the stumpy evo , wish one descend better of steep terrain, the status or the Enduro . Thanks for your videos. Cheers
@Tequila628
@Tequila628 11 ай бұрын
As a 186cm (6'2) rider I really appreciate this video. What can you say about Propain Tyee though? True and tested choice? I was looking to buy one.
@aaronburela432
@aaronburela432 11 ай бұрын
Love summit what a dream testing bikes lapping one of the best bike parks
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 11 ай бұрын
It did not suck. Big thanks to Snow Summit and Visit Big Bear for hosting us!
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 11 ай бұрын
STFU is probably going to come out with a chain slap/ chain damper.
@_conrad
@_conrad 11 ай бұрын
no propain 😅
@JIBBING_1980S
@JIBBING_1980S 10 ай бұрын
Look at the price tag..😆 definitely built-up for certain rider with expensive riding skills🎉
@akosyjonathan
@akosyjonathan 10 ай бұрын
May i know how tall are you
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 10 ай бұрын
I'm 6'3", Lear is 6'4", and Jonny is 6'5".
@jerridstory2531
@jerridstory2531 Ай бұрын
This review watches like a good show, I’ve watched it like 3 times now. Good job guys. Wish there could have been an alloy bike in the mix though, Kavens or Madonna v3 maybe
@theprofitmohamhead1268
@theprofitmohamhead1268 11 ай бұрын
Specialized S-WORKS Enduro LTD
@buzztilley4166
@buzztilley4166 3 ай бұрын
What is your recommendation on suspension setup for the mega? Im 6'2 and 85kg...
@iminacoma
@iminacoma 11 ай бұрын
That kook stare is gold
@syblackpearl
@syblackpearl 10 ай бұрын
What handlebar width and rise do you guys use?
@charliesponsel5091
@charliesponsel5091 10 ай бұрын
We were running 40mm and 50mm rise Deity bars cut to 790mm. Riders were 6'3" to 6'5". Loved it.
@letsgo_inc
@letsgo_inc 11 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say a used Specialized Enduro is the weapon of choice for a privateer on a budget. Years later it's still holding up every time it gets re-reviewed.
@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293
@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293 11 ай бұрын
​@@pebbleinspectorbeen riding LTD since 2020 no cracks if you service her!
@T-rick
@T-rick 11 ай бұрын
I'm about to trade my all mountain bike for a used enduro - fingers crossed it treats me well
@LCNismo
@LCNismo 11 ай бұрын
The Walmart brand just like the trek. Both are crap and I don’t understand why people buy used? Broke people problems
@the510wagon
@the510wagon 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's very true. I love to hate Specialized, but results....and dozens of positive reviews don't lie. It's obviously a very, very well designed bike. (stack height is crazy low though...)
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