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LONG-TERM REVIEW - Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper vs. Stumpjumper Comp Alloy

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Vital MTB

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@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
Video Contents 0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Downhill Performance 2:36 - Climbing Performance 3:14 - Geometry 4:12 - Suspension Performance 5:23 - Suspension Setup 7:08 - Put a Bigger Fork On It? 8:27 - Fork Performance 9:47 - Drivetrain SRAM AXS vs NX 11:41 - Carbon vs Alloy Wheel Durability 13:28 - Carbon vs Alloy Frame Durability 14:35 - Is the S-Works Worth $9,800? 15:15 - Is the Alloy Comp Worth $3,400?
@iangoodwin1839
@iangoodwin1839 3 жыл бұрын
I have an s3 comp alloy and it’s amazing. I’m a teenager who worked for 8 months to save up for it and it’s a bike I’ll likely have for 5-10 years. For most people who aren’t racing or a professional biker, there’s nothing wrong with the comp alloy.
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
way to go, working and saving up for a rad bike!
@rolux4853
@rolux4853 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for getting such an awesome bike at that young age man! You got yourself a pretty decent job if you where able to buy such a bike after that relatively short amount of time.
@AORNova
@AORNova 3 жыл бұрын
Have a M (S2) 2019 Enduro Comp. Essentially a 2021 Stumpjumper but with enduro travel at 170-180mm. A beast and the sensitivity and kinematics are still excellent. Good choice with the Alloy Stumpy.. frames made by Merida in the Taiwan factory are bombproof as heck. You'll have it for years to come.
@nope929
@nope929 3 жыл бұрын
How did you find it in stock? Cause I'm in a similar scenario, except I can't spend my money on the bike I want which is the same Stumpy comp or base alloy
@axellindell7098
@axellindell7098 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitalmtb i am going to save for 1,5 years more so i can get The trek slash 9.7
@kangsterizer
@kangsterizer 3 жыл бұрын
review is honest and complete, a rare thing, great stuff!
@mtbcanyon4108
@mtbcanyon4108 3 жыл бұрын
Ya
@darkwhite82
@darkwhite82 3 жыл бұрын
I love how a $3K bike is "budget".
@HollyBoni
@HollyBoni 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you're new to mountain biking?
@101picofarad
@101picofarad 3 жыл бұрын
Realy normal bike starts from 3k. Luxury bike - from 5..6k. new trail bike cheaper than 3k have a lot of stupid moments that may solve by later upgrade, but... later upgrade spend much more money.
@Diqed
@Diqed 3 жыл бұрын
The average mountain biker must be incredibly gullible, the amount they pay for their bikes. Seems like a good time to be a push bike manufacturer, profits must be off the charts
@rcg9573
@rcg9573 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he’s just not a gullible fool easily parted from his money. If you think $3K for a bicycle )a bicycle) is a budget bike you’re one of those gullible fools, who has bought into the industry’s nonsensical pricing in recent years. My MTB is a Trek aluminum that cost $490. $490 and yet I manage to pass clowns on $3K to $10K high zoot Enve tricked out MTB’s all the time. If all those $$$ bought serious performance gains it should be almost impossible for me to pass any of them on my sub $500 bike, yet it happens every ride. Regardless of the sport there will always be a good sized collection of consumer goofball types out there thinking they can purchase their performance. You see it in cycling, golf, skiing, sailing, tennis, etc…. I regularly see morons that can’t hit a golf ball straight 150 yards to save their life playing with $5K sets of clubs. I can’t tell you the number of clowns I see out on the road on $7K+ Specialized Tarmac’s with high zoot Zipp or Enve Carbon wheels, who ride and climb at a snails pace up moderate grades. It’s actually funny passing them because they thought by simply cracking open their wallet it would by magic make them much faster, which of course it never does. Lots of gullible consumer poser types out there, but it’s hard to pose going uphill. Just saying. 😆
@HollyBoni
@HollyBoni 3 жыл бұрын
@@rcg9573Personally I didn't buy an "expensive" MTB to be faster. I don't care how fast I am at all (seriously, not at all). I bought one because to me higher end equipment feels nicer to use. I know some people don't care about that at all, and that's perfectly fine as well. No one is forcing me to ride, I'm out there to have a good time, and nicer equipment can help with that (again, that's just me). Maybe I'm a fool, great. I could spend my money on worse things than a bike. 🙂 And no, I'm not rich (not that there is a problem with being rich), I saved up for a long time. And of course I absolutely love my bike, it motivates me to go out and ride. What if someone is into cars and spends tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands on restoring an old car for example, instead of buying a new one that's cheaper, faster, has more comfort features etc. Is that dumb? To me it's not, because that old car probably has some kind of "magic" in the eyes of the owner. A nice bike can do the same thing for certain people (on top of being nicer to use). Nothing wrong with that IMO
@BrianVaughn
@BrianVaughn 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this format. I think the middle ground build always end up being the best option.
@bclyne
@bclyne 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I've gone with the Expert build on both my Roubaix and Stumpjumper and I like the better components and can tell the difference from the entry-level comp but don't think I necessarily need the tip-top of the line S works. One day if the extra 4k doesn't hurt the bank account, maybe I'll consider it but I am so happy with my Experts and glad I spent that little bit more.
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 3 жыл бұрын
The interview reflected my impression on today's Specialized, which I have been riding for decades now. For a hell lot of money (comp alloy) you get a decent bike with cheap/mediocre components (SRAM NX) and so-so performance. Nothing to brag about or be proud off, but it gets you there. For an insane amount of money you get a bike that is in the top league and rides like a dream. Anything below an insane amount of money leads to a lot of compromises that make you think about moving to other brands. To help you with this decision, Specialized now raised the prices even higher with U$ 11.000 for the Stumpjumper S-Works. And that is still a bargain compared to the new Epic S-Works at an astronomical U$15.000 (!). Only hardcore Specialized enthusiasts are welcome there. Thanks, but no thanks. Unless I am a sponsored rider.
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 10 ай бұрын
Yep...and honestly this review came off very snobby and elitist. Atleast now the bikes are mostly marked down significantly since the covid boom is over. A stumpjumper comp carbon is 40% off right now, showing just how grossly overpriced these were to begin with.
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 10 ай бұрын
@@wvjeepguy8178 Shows the profit margins of the local bike shops. 😅
@GrantBlankenship
@GrantBlankenship 2 жыл бұрын
I know you didn't mean "trundle" as a superlative for the metal bike, but given how that's the verb that best describes my riding style, you literally sold me. Also key were "comfort", "cruise" and "friends"
@stickintheleg9153
@stickintheleg9153 2 жыл бұрын
99% of our time spent riding is 'trundling' with friends. Stoked that it spoke to you!
@GrantBlankenship
@GrantBlankenship 2 жыл бұрын
@@stickintheleg9153 a few months into abusing the comp alloy, I can say my overall speed has remained constant. Existentially and statistically, like over years of data it turns out, I am a "singlespeed." The comfort and traction on that bike is amazing though.
@rekamniar
@rekamniar 3 жыл бұрын
u just made me rethink the carbon vs alloy debate. great review guys
@stickintheleg9153
@stickintheleg9153 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RNicknackpaddywhack
@RNicknackpaddywhack 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder what an intermediate rider would notice between the two bikes. He is clearly a very good rider. Would the common buyer know and appreciate the differences?
@willchart1
@willchart1 3 жыл бұрын
Great question
@richardseller3733
@richardseller3733 3 жыл бұрын
This is top notch review, definitely appreciate the honesty and candor. Keep up the great work and solid reviews.
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 3 жыл бұрын
I just spent $8k on a Mach 6. My buddy just a little over $3k on a Meta AM. We ride down the same trails, we go just as fast, and there's nothing my bike can do that his can't. Value and worth aren't the same for everyone. Was it worth the extra $5k? To me, yeah, it was, but I could certainly see how most people think it's a complete waste of money. I'm not into cars, so I'd rather have a Civic with $50k in the glove compartment, instead of a Porsche or something like that. A sports car fan might think the opposite. Same thing with watches. I'll take a Swiss Army watch over a Rolex cause I'm just not a watch guy ... but bikes? That's my thing, it's what I'm into and to me it's worth every penny.
@Danachd
@Danachd 3 жыл бұрын
I completely get this. The term "budget" is subjective to what someone can afford or justify. And also what something is compared to...I have a kona process, a 3k bike, and I love it. I could I get a more expensive bike, but I just can't justify it. My 3k bike is awesome, it rips and looks good. So, I suppose we should ride what we can afford and justify spending money on..
@101picofarad
@101picofarad 3 жыл бұрын
To use sportcar you must go to special track. To take adrenalin from stumpjumper sworks - simple out from house and ride in any direction!
@Jonofthejungle26
@Jonofthejungle26 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2019 comp alloy in March 2019 and the bike has seen it’s fair share of big hits and bad landings and it is still going like a trooper. I’ve replaced every bearing on the bike at least once due to wear and riding in all conditions, all year round and like you said, the wheels are only good as long as you look after them. The one bad thing about this bike is that single discipline focus. It is a bike that is designed to make trail riding super fun which it absolutely nailed, but when it gets into DH bike territory, there are no upgrades that are going to make it handle well and within its comfort zone like a modern enduro bike will. For the majority of my rides, the upgrades I have added over the years keep it right up there with my mates on 180mm enduro bike but like I said, there’s a point (like 8ft drops into a footy rock garden) where the bike quickly finds its limits and ejects you from the driving seat. Great review guys, really good to see this comparison, particularly with the bike I own. 🤘🏼
@jlj547
@jlj547 2 жыл бұрын
The 2019 and 2021 are very different bikes. You would not want to send the new one off of 8ft drops you will destroy it pretty quickly. I would say that the evo version is the bike to have if your riding those kind of trails.
@yoondaman316
@yoondaman316 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I had my eye on the alloy Stumpjumper. I would have liked to see a Deore build in lieu of the cheaper Sram stuff, but the $800 jump to the Comp model doesn't seem so big because of the carbon frame and better parts. I hope to see more reviews like this in the future. Great job, and thank you!
@tomas2810
@tomas2810 3 жыл бұрын
Go with the Comp Carbon. I'm glad I did.
@JamesRobertMTB
@JamesRobertMTB 3 жыл бұрын
The prices of new bikes is insane!!! I understand that the demand is currently through the roof. But those that have been riding mountain bikes for years are suffering as a result!
@ryanhom3006
@ryanhom3006 3 жыл бұрын
The price of used bikes is even worse
@richardgonzalez6583
@richardgonzalez6583 3 жыл бұрын
I have been riding bikes over 30 Years I have never seen mtb cost more than a used car insane a bike doesn't make you a good rider a rider makes any bike good trust me
@ryanhom3006
@ryanhom3006 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardgonzalez6583 well to be fair I could never bash as hard on a Walmart bike as I do on my way too expensive long travel toy
@allenjanes5976
@allenjanes5976 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I've always felt the same about any brand of MTB. A gx drive train with ultimate or factory suspension and a nice rear hub makes the best purchase
@REB4444
@REB4444 Жыл бұрын
6:45 So if you put the high-end suspension on the Aluminum, is it worth having the very expensive carbon frame if you are not a professional racer and just a regular mountain biker? I'm starting to come to that conclusion after seeing other brands come out with the aluminum version of the carbon, like the Ripley AF that is actually more capable than the carbon downhill. My last 3 bikes have been carbon and will probably be that way from now on, but if I were a young mountain biker just starting out, I'd definitely go aluminum with bikes like this.
@hro52518
@hro52518 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Awesome to see this post a week from when I bought mine. I picked the Comp Alloy since it has good components for my intended use and the price of entry wasn't astronomical compared to other bikes. The weight is noticeable when climbing but I'm hoping as things wear out (drivetrain, and wheels) I can upgrade in the right places to bring the weight down a bit. Very cool bike for the price.
@MtbRN2MD
@MtbRN2MD 3 жыл бұрын
The most difference i noticed was changing the crankset. That took tons of weight off. I upgraded to GX
@hro52518
@hro52518 3 жыл бұрын
@@MtbRN2MD Awesome glad to hear that. DId you upgrade for weight savings or just to have a nicer crank? thanks for the recommendation
@hro52518
@hro52518 3 жыл бұрын
Also was it the alloy GX cranks or carbon?
@Whitehawkvisionfilms
@Whitehawkvisionfilms 3 жыл бұрын
This might be the most comprehensive and honest review I have ever seen! God Bless y'all! Have y'all done one on the Specialized Enduros? Please do if not. I will go look for it now
@briAction
@briAction 3 жыл бұрын
I have a base model 2021 stumpy alloy, it's my first bike in 5 years and my first fs bike. Maybe 100 miles on it so far. After a basic setup and walkthrough with the dealer, I was basically able to just go ride and enjoy it and gradually learn how to tune the suspension and gearset. It's 1k less than the comp, definitely a compromise on suspension parts and the brakes, but it's still an amazing bike to me to get into grown up mtb's with a lot of room for future upgrades and it gets the job done. My last bike was a GT Outpost, so this is a huge step up, like orders of magnitude, though the gt was way lighter and quicker on gravel/tarmac. I do wish it were a bit faster just about everywhere, but it's a really satisfying bike to just get out, learn and be able to hang where hardtails might have trouble, as long as you're okay with just chilling and not being the fastest rider out there. Hopefully this is helpful to someone if 3400 is a scary price, 2500 is definitely a bit easier to swallow, especially if you are just building up a set of gear to go with it :) lots of learning and upgrading in the future 😎 Great and fair review, the alloy stumpjumpers are great for what they are, but for almost 10k personally I'd step towards a Pivot or Santa Cruz.
@Hardworkpays209
@Hardworkpays209 3 жыл бұрын
I also got a base stumpy and I can’t complain it hasn’t let me down
@briAction
@briAction 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardworkpays209 I actually ended up replacing the rear shock with a custom super deluxe haha
@tomas2810
@tomas2810 3 жыл бұрын
The SJ Comp Carbon would have been a better/closer comparison to the SJ Comp Alloy. It's the same carbon frame and geo as the S-Works and would have been closer components wise (SRAM NX vs. Shimano SLX), and $800 price difference. I've had the SJ Comp Carbon for about 2 months and love it. Coming from a 2014 SJ alloy. S-Works is a whole different level of bike and likely rider. Great review and like the format.
@jorgebremer1227
@jorgebremer1227 3 жыл бұрын
I had the luck to get my hands on a S4 Expert, killer build for the price, $10k bike raw carbon paintjob on a $5k bike, bike can do EVERYTHING, climbs super well even on open and glides through the downs, looking forward to buying some carbon rims, great review !
@TJIzzy
@TJIzzy 3 жыл бұрын
But a dirt bike will be more fun for the price
@pault2417
@pault2417 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Think one reason I went with the Comp Carbon, light great frame with the SLX build which i feel was a better build for sure over the Sram alloy build.
@oscarhiemstra3940
@oscarhiemstra3940 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the comp aloy and I don have any Problems with the shifting
@monstermini225
@monstermini225 4 ай бұрын
I built probably on of the sickest Stumpy alloy, started with the base model on sale, then replace nearly every component. Came in a few thousand less than the sworks. I went lyrik ultimate (150mm) in the front and Super deluxe ultimate with HBO in the rear. Completely changes the game on climbs , decents, thru berms etc. Went axs gx converson kit for wireless better shifting. Swapped the crappy tektro brakes for 4 piston hayes dominion front and rear. Nobl t37 carbon wheels with I9 hubs. Result is a S-works killer and basically a slight shorter travel Evo.
@shadyss96
@shadyss96 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a 21 Stumpjumper Expert and have to agree with your shifting experience. I have yet to get the bike to shift correctly myself. Mostly no-shifts to double-shifts but common enough to really mess up your flow. I also ended up adding the larger vol. spacer to the rear and ended up setting the BB on the high side and it made a huge difference in the climbing.
@Foxtrot2312
@Foxtrot2312 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a Comp Alloy in April and I've put almost 300 miles on it so far. Its been great! Where were the riding sections filmed? The look like so much fun!
@CWBmtb
@CWBmtb 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best bike review I've ever watched
@vwmk5gtiblk
@vwmk5gtiblk 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this. More plz. 🤙
@Wieber84
@Wieber84 3 жыл бұрын
Props for picking the stumpy for this kind of comparison especially since the alloy uses a different suspension layout was very informative
@101picofarad
@101picofarad 3 жыл бұрын
And... this is short track versions about 130mm.
@mb7762
@mb7762 3 жыл бұрын
My 21 sworks is the best bike i ever owned/rode can do it all
@superawesomefuntimego
@superawesomefuntimego 3 жыл бұрын
I think the comp carbon is the sweet spot currently. $800 more than the comp alloy, but you get a carbon frame with swat and slightly better SLX 7100 series components vs the NX drivetrain and G2 R brakes.
@saddleweary9709
@saddleweary9709 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at one today but the shop was so busy I didn't get many details. If you don't mind, tell me how you like the dropper post, and the rear shock adjustability. And how much does it weigh. I was a little concerned about the storage compartment making the frame weak. $4200 seems high for low/med specs to me. The other one was the $2400 alloy with sram sx , x fusion rear, rockshox silver forks which I've never heard of but I was thinking could be upgraded later. I went to get a wheel and was told it's looking like two year wait on upgrades. Anyway, thanks for your time.
@superawesomefuntimego
@superawesomefuntimego 3 жыл бұрын
@@saddleweary9709 I do have the comp carbon and with better wheels and new carbon bar it weighs in at 29lbs. The DPS shock is fine once I got it set up to my liking adding a .8 volume reducer. Even the rhythm fork is solid although I had to add 3 tokens to help it from bottoming. The xfusion dropper performs well, no issues yet. I would not be worried about the storage weakening the frame, Specialized uses that on the EVO and Enduro which are made to take a beating. If you wanted to start with the cheapest alloy build and upgrade parts later, the parts are out there, you just might be a little patient and may need to look around to find what you need and accept that they likely will not discounted.
@saddleweary9709
@saddleweary9709 3 жыл бұрын
@@superawesomefuntimego Thank you so much. I believe I'm going to go get it. I was trying to upgrade a 19 gt sensor but it's been rough, so now I'll just go part at a time, maybe go coil on the gt for my very rooty local trail and the stumpjumper for the foothill trails I go to about four hours away. You've been a great help, now I feel better about it. Later my friend
@aaronthewhiz3160
@aaronthewhiz3160 3 жыл бұрын
Wow where are those trails at 6:30?
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
Femrite's Patrol near Boise, Idaho
@richchin5163
@richchin5163 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and format.
@ryanroe7
@ryanroe7 3 жыл бұрын
Love this review format. Very informative and detailed.
@konos3951
@konos3951 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, great review! I'm actually going to be ordering a 2023 (2022?) Stumpy next week but I'm struggling with the Comp Carbon and the Comp Alloy. Its an $1800CDN difference and the only reason I can think of to get the carbon version would be the weight savings which from what I could find online is about a 2lbs difference (30ishlbs [could only find the Expert weight] vs 33lbs). SLX on carbon vs NX on the alloy and the venerable Shimano MT800 vs SRAM DUB. A bit about me: 6'1, 210lbs, definitely just a 2 day a week/weekend warrior - no racing. Lots of technical climbs and I swear there's more climbs than descents. The descents aren't very long either - no mountains here in Northern Ontario, Canada. I would classify most of my riding as technical single track/hiking trails with lots of rock. Any thoughts on if its worth it to spring for the carbon version?
@Montblanc1986
@Montblanc1986 3 жыл бұрын
I have all price ranges of bikes, expensive light weight bikes are amazing and the parts are amazing but the geometry needs to suit you well or its never going to really be a dream rig.
@marcieg9456
@marcieg9456 3 жыл бұрын
I have that alloy comp and I'm really happy with it minus the drivetrain like you said the NX is lacking big time and I'm constantly having shifting issues.
@wesdizz6297
@wesdizz6297 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. It rides amazing! I did improve shifting by messing with the b-gap adjustment, but it's still lacking. I'll probably upgrade it to GX soon.
@Bpf1893
@Bpf1893 3 жыл бұрын
Upgrade to the GX derailleur and shifter, makes a huge difference for the money.
@Vanadium
@Vanadium 3 жыл бұрын
Well I have the GX AXS and I also have shifting issues + lost Tension. Nothing is perfect!
@jlj547
@jlj547 3 жыл бұрын
Mine doesn't maybe I am just lucky.
@oscarhiemstra3940
@oscarhiemstra3940 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlj547 mine two
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 3 жыл бұрын
The " best " bike is the one YOU love the most and "fun", is ultimately subjective .
@The_Mustang_Den
@The_Mustang_Den 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a blast on my 2007 Specialized FSR XC Comp after 15 years. Upgraded brakes and crankset. Still going strong … I’m no pro though.
@livinlarge1247
@livinlarge1247 2 жыл бұрын
Where is that you tested them: Lake Tahoe? I like the info on the shocks. Good video.
@ronniekaftal1729
@ronniekaftal1729 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! How hard or expensive it would be to put proper aluminum wheels on spesh comp bikes? From a company that produces one of the best carbon wheels you would expect more which makes it even more annoying
@brian53301
@brian53301 8 ай бұрын
I have the 2022 alloy comp. And he was right about the NX drivetrain. I bought a GX shifter and derailer. And will upgrade the crank later shifting fine now. I’m still mad I spent 4 grand on a bike. Looking at new ones now you can get a carbon comp for the same price I spent on alloy.
@dennisneufeld9263
@dennisneufeld9263 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! More videos like this, please! Top spec vs bottom spec. Would love to see the Trek Slash or Rocky Altitude reviewed like this. Great job!
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! we did review the slash and the altitude. different style to this, but same great info - slash vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJWskHaOeJqUq80 rocky vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHfVn51_j8alY6M
@PoppoBikes
@PoppoBikes 2 жыл бұрын
Wait the comp drivetrain is weak. I also thought I heard the rear shock was a weak point also. Did I misunderstand
@Phonophobia
@Phonophobia 3 жыл бұрын
As a bike mechanic, let me tell you one thing: If you have the NX derailleur, just ride it for a month until the spring is shot and upgrade to GX. The few pennies are reeeeaaaally worth it for a upgrade imo. PS: I always see Adam Brayton using grips as binoculars when the outro starts
@freeddsan29
@freeddsan29 3 жыл бұрын
It's for that's Shimano is the king
@DM-hw4cr
@DM-hw4cr 3 жыл бұрын
Yep the crazy part is at the GX is like 10 or $15 more than the NX
@Bpf1893
@Bpf1893 3 жыл бұрын
Best upgrade you can do. The GX works perfectly
@benv7670
@benv7670 3 жыл бұрын
Anything else on the drivetrain you’d recommend upgrading? That’s really helpful
@31acruz
@31acruz 3 жыл бұрын
Many reviewers have said that the old design felt more 'plush' and smooth compared to the new design with the flex chain stays. Did you find that to be the case ?
@stonewp
@stonewp 3 жыл бұрын
I Demo’d a horstless version in Pisgah and the rear suspension felt wooden and dead to me. I prefer the 130-140mm travel of the standard Stumpjumper compared to the 150-160mm of the Evo, but the suspension feeling was a non-starter for me.
@31acruz
@31acruz 3 жыл бұрын
@@stonewp Thank you
@timwatters
@timwatters 3 жыл бұрын
What gloves are you riding with? It looks as if they have some kind of wrist support cuff. Do you have a link for them?
@cth978
@cth978 3 жыл бұрын
I have a comp and have been upgrading it. Have a Fox 36 fork and a dpx2 going on it soon.
@benv7670
@benv7670 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I’ve been looking everywhere for this info. I have the comp alloy, obviously with the 34 Rhythms…so the 36s will go on without affecting the geometry too much??
@cth978
@cth978 3 жыл бұрын
@@benv7670 I bought a 36 with 160mm travel and dropped it down to 150mm with a new air shaft. I think specialized only recommends 10mm travel increase in the front so it won’t mess with the geometry much at all. Took it out for a test yesterday at the bike park and it rode and handles amazingly.
@clintondavies8098
@clintondavies8098 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review how was the sram brakes on both bikes? 🤔
@Drogos79
@Drogos79 3 жыл бұрын
got the comp alloy in less ugly color option. your thoughts on tires? worth doing tubeless conversion or better just get new tires while at it. looking to have 2 sets...one lighter for my boring midwest trails and one for real mountain trails
@bobbyt7444
@bobbyt7444 3 жыл бұрын
"I've never touched a nipple on it."
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
quote of the video for sure.
@Goblin1823
@Goblin1823 2 жыл бұрын
Hi... I'm about to buy Stumpjumper Comp Alloy or Orbea Occam H20 LT, need some advise witch route need to go...
@YuichiTamaki
@YuichiTamaki 3 жыл бұрын
Holy s**t i was looking for this a few days ago! Thank you a lot!
@1969Escobar
@1969Escobar 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, cheers
@letsgo_inc
@letsgo_inc 3 жыл бұрын
Specialized makes great frames but for $3400, NX is wild. Go find yourself a Vitus Escarpe with Deore, a Z2 fork, carbon front triangle and save yourself $1k
@diamondbracelette
@diamondbracelette 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have NX on a 2018 $1k hardtail and am annoyed with it for even that price point lol. NX anywhere near 3k is a nope
@nebnollock5198
@nebnollock5198 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a vitus mythique VRX and I completely agree, that Z2 is bloody amazing, it's basically a beefed up 34 factory without the adjustment but at an amazing price I'd actually rather have a Z2 than a 34 factory because of the stiffness advantage, I'm not to concerned with weight
@letsgo_inc
@letsgo_inc 3 жыл бұрын
@@nebnollock5198 Yeah I am also a fan of the Z2 over the 34. I intend to get one for my hardtail. That Mythique is a seriously nice package but I can't find one lol
@nebnollock5198
@nebnollock5198 3 жыл бұрын
@@letsgo_inc tell me about it, I was trying for months to get it - missing two stock shipments but on the third one I managed to snag one, it sold out 7 mins after I got the stock alert
@letsgo_inc
@letsgo_inc 3 жыл бұрын
@@nebnollock5198 yeah I gave up. I'm low-key hoping they update it soon as it looks like j won't be buying anything for a while.
@michaelbulygin8306
@michaelbulygin8306 2 жыл бұрын
What is your height? Did you try S3? I am 178.5cm and feel comfortable on my S4 (chosen based on the Specialized website recommendations)
@nl3712
@nl3712 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review of the stumpjumper models
@_PJB_
@_PJB_ 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you! Just a bit of advice on future videos. When you say this one where that one, very confusing. Just name the product. Much simpler for your viewers, especially if they get interrupted and they’re trying to follow along.
@MrM0nKey79
@MrM0nKey79 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately only had the basic StumpJumper Alloy available locally in South Africa. Ended up getting the Evo Comp, just because that's all that was in stock after a year of lockdown. Bit more than my intended budget, but I am getting out on the trails a lot more than my old XC bike :)
@tombaker3081
@tombaker3081 Ай бұрын
What about the Pro version?
@eugenedowning4805
@eugenedowning4805 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my 2016 Stumpy FSR Comp Alloy 650b new for $2,200 and absolutely love it. Shoot I've still got my 2008 Stumpy FSR Comp Alloy 26" and have a great time with it too, bought it new for $2,000.
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 2 жыл бұрын
My 2013 Stumpy Elite 29er weighs 30 lbs. packed with tools, water bottle, frame pump, and spare... and it is alloy. It is 130/130 with a FOX Evolution fork and the rear is Fox Float/Brain. I smoke guys on these new geos on the climbs and trails oriented stuff. I live in rolling terrain and LLS goes being jammed down our throats isn't better for most of the terrain in the USA. I run 2 tokens in my fork.
@marios136
@marios136 3 жыл бұрын
Are these working gloves youre riding with?
@eliasdanieli5461
@eliasdanieli5461 3 жыл бұрын
Great content and as always great riding!
@nunyobizkneez
@nunyobizkneez 3 жыл бұрын
100000% agree on value of both bikes. WAY OVERPRICED, build an expert (when frames are available) and save thousands. Not surprised with Specialized though. Good options out there on direct-to-consumer bikes though for the price.
@ambushell5778
@ambushell5778 3 жыл бұрын
NX Eagle would work a lot better if Sram could figure out how to keep the B limit screw from moving on its own. Haven't had to adjust that once on my XT der since I installed it more than 14 months ago
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 жыл бұрын
Buy an X01 bolt. SRAM knows this.
@31acruz
@31acruz 3 жыл бұрын
how come you said nothing about the fact it has the old horse link system and only the carbon gets the new design?
@nicolaghinassi1345
@nicolaghinassi1345 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am also considering the purchase of the stumpjumper comp alloy. I am 178cm tall, what size do you recommend based on your experience? thank you very much in advance.
@zmcmcv5733
@zmcmcv5733 2 жыл бұрын
Test the S3 and S4 before you buy them and see which one is better
@FreakShowExcess10
@FreakShowExcess10 3 жыл бұрын
The Rhythm 34 may be Fox's entry level fork, but Fox doesn't make entry level products.
@Carl_Donaldson
@Carl_Donaldson Жыл бұрын
178cm / 5’10” s3 or s4?
@xophere
@xophere 3 жыл бұрын
Was it really not possible to get same geo bikes for this test?
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
the alloy and the carbon do not have the same geometry or suspension, yet they are both Stumpjumpers.
@94CSPmiata
@94CSPmiata 3 жыл бұрын
New to watching your channel's reviews and I have to say the most detailed and proper feedback around. I find most reviews are "this new bike rips". This is part by part, good and bad, and where the they stand and fall behind. Love the format.
@brianmartindale2221
@brianmartindale2221 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Great comparision from a riding perspective.
@mizanurrehmanmiah2802
@mizanurrehmanmiah2802 3 жыл бұрын
Which country were you riding in?
@TRATAL82
@TRATAL82 3 жыл бұрын
Can u atleast compare the low budget model?
@99jerseyboy
@99jerseyboy 3 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't have the little dingus. It's dingus-less!" 😂😂😂
@kevinjunghans788
@kevinjunghans788 2 жыл бұрын
What about the pro comp carbon
@kevinjunghans788
@kevinjunghans788 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the difference between the that one and the s works
@Dingodilemna
@Dingodilemna Жыл бұрын
That's sick that you tested them in Boise. first few clips I was like that looks like Bogus, then one I was like oh thats Shayne's loop lmao.
@jasong5321
@jasong5321 Жыл бұрын
Great video. You got a new subscription.
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 2 жыл бұрын
That does it . Goin out in bying me a Stumpjupmer. No one can stop me, not even spell check
@Mam_2854
@Mam_2854 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is awesome!
@WinterGameplays
@WinterGameplays 3 жыл бұрын
the "budget" one is actually almost a high end bike here in Brazil xD and i dont want to play tough but i can do a lot with the budget bike in this video
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
our $2,000 MTB group review - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoS8qIeiqc1kpcU our $2,500 MTB group review - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJezlHVqf8alb9k
@livinlarge1247
@livinlarge1247 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mags for mine: broken spokes, repeat...done. I do not jump it or ride it too hard, but I tour it bikepacking, and at 210 pounds plus a 25 pound backpack and some extra tools & water...well...I guess the spokes break.
@moritzkung2025
@moritzkung2025 3 жыл бұрын
But then the point is if the 6000 extra is worth the tiny benefit you get from it. For many people this is a lot of money for a bike and can be personalized after a while with prefrence upgrades which still will be way cheaper
@letsmap
@letsmap Жыл бұрын
When did the sj comp alloy go from $3400 to its current price at $4000?!? Ridiculous pricing….
@harrycockroft9659
@harrycockroft9659 3 жыл бұрын
How much does the comp alloy weigh
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
our size larges, no pedals - comp alloy 33 pounds / 14.9kg, sworks 26.13 pounds / 11.8kg
@Mulli9anStew
@Mulli9anStew 3 жыл бұрын
What are the names of the trails you are riding here?
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
some are off-road moto trails in the idaho city area and the trails in the boise foothills are trail 4 and fermite's patrol
@MrFroggy29
@MrFroggy29 2 жыл бұрын
Long term ok, but how many ?
@mrsmartypants_1
@mrsmartypants_1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m under the impression there are significant amount of fatigue fractures on S-Works frames after a couple years of hard riding.
@sleepwalkinpyro
@sleepwalkinpyro 3 жыл бұрын
Um okay.
@mikeloamzzz9593
@mikeloamzzz9593 3 жыл бұрын
This one. This one. This one. Differentiate. Give them a name please
@stickintheleg9153
@stickintheleg9153 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, you are right. We'll make an effort to be more clear in future discussions.
@emilg3314
@emilg3314 3 жыл бұрын
It's insane to call a 3400 USD bike budget. There is a lower model with Rockshox 35 fork and x-fusion shock; that's the budget one...
@vitalmtb
@vitalmtb 3 жыл бұрын
A fair critisim. We actually explain the reasons why we did not use the base, alloy model in our full review: www.vitalmtb.com/features/Specialized-Stumpjumper-S-Works-Vs-Stumpjumper-Comp-Alloy,3109
@onlyfoolriding8223
@onlyfoolriding8223 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. 99.99% of people can't even push a 1k bike to the limit. It's PURE marketing. But people can spend their money however they want. If you like it, you like it.
@CaBdosdos
@CaBdosdos 3 жыл бұрын
I have two high end Pivots and an Alloy Trek fuel ex with medium trim. I reach for my Trek more than the other two lol. I'll probably sell the Pivots down the road and now I know what I care the most about in a bike.
@rouxenophobe
@rouxenophobe Жыл бұрын
Can we stop calling thing that are >$3,000 budget!
@kevinpunter7960
@kevinpunter7960 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is an S-Works 29, my wife has a Comp 27.5 ... both a great bikes but the S-Works just does everything better.
@noonster55
@noonster55 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad you have to call a $3400.00 bike a budget bike...
@youngstadan4999
@youngstadan4999 8 ай бұрын
Im still riding an 07 stumpy its got 140 mil of plush fox suss, everythings hope and top end sram. Its lasted me years couple small paint chips. Still a very good bike for most stuff. Its just the wheels , bigger wheels just make it easier. Its the only thing makimg me want to upgrade, looking at a a stumpy evo thats what my heart says keep it spesh, still got a 2000 rockhopper fsr in good condition thats stilll a good bike for eatinb the miles. My mind saying get a scott ransom 920 and then i can do it all on one bike pretty well
@MavHunter20XX
@MavHunter20XX 3 жыл бұрын
budget is when I buy used/ obsolete parts from eBay. I still run 26" tires
@alexandrosvoulgarakis4355
@alexandrosvoulgarakis4355 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.. helped a lot :)
@bradymoritz
@bradymoritz 3 жыл бұрын
What's the reviewer/rider's weight?
@stickintheleg9153
@stickintheleg9153 3 жыл бұрын
150 lbs
@dannyboy8183
@dannyboy8183 3 жыл бұрын
Bucks vr bang yes I can tell you with my stumpy I’m at a happy middle my bike it’s a 2020 comp carbon 27.5 cost $4500 I replace the cranks X01 sram cockpit one up it makes a big difference next will be some nice carbon wheels and a happy middle 3.0 🤘🏾🤘🏾😊
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