Couple key things I found while conducting these interviews: Brennan does admit that there was an offer of sort from Yamaha of engines to replace so damaged ones he had along with an opportunity to test the bike at Goat Farm. Burkeen states that the AMA rules relating to a claim will only penalize another party if they counter claim a bike to interfere or if a rider is directly threatened by the claimed party. Negotiating a deal to receive some level of support in return for dropping a claim is NOT against the rules. Brennan also admits that he actually doesn't know if his bike sponsor / dealer was threatened by Yamaha, it was assumed. Cotter and Burkeen speak very highly of dealing with Brennan and his handling of the situation. Cotter and Burkeen both speak about the engine builder trying to be involved a decent bit. Cotter and Burkeen both state that they were told his parents "weren't around" and in retrospective they both wish they would've asked further on this. Both admit to not realizing that Brennan was under 18 in the moment. Burkeen states he didn't deny the kid the ability to make the claim without his parents around as he didn't want to run down the clock and risk the kid not being able to make the claim against the bike. He absolutely didn't want to interfere with the process and have it look like the AMA / MX Sports would deny a legitimate bike claim. Cotter, Burkeen, and Deegan all match up with a much shorter time line for the conversation with Brennan in the office. Their versions of Deegan's questions all match Brennan's.
@MrMcGuck2 жыл бұрын
The haters don’t want the facts they just want their version based on who they like. It’s sad but political thought processes have creeped into motocross minds.
@MrMcGuck2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely well written, you laid out all the facts and I believe it was balanced and unbiased.
@wfodavid2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha (McCarty) have a rather lengthy reputation over the years....
@Aegeus1482 жыл бұрын
Was there an AMA official present in the room with Brian and Brennan when the claim was brought up? I mean this seems simple the kid claimed a bike per the rules so why didn't he get it? Doesn't matter if claiming a bike is frowned upon or some sort of unwritten rule. Written rules > unwritten rules.
@MrMcGuck2 жыл бұрын
@@Aegeus148 he rescinded the claim to the bike so he didn’t get it. It’s been alleged that offers were made to him by Yamaha to not take the bike and also alleged that threats were made by Yamaha to his dealership and sponsors.
@bobbybishop56622 жыл бұрын
If nothing else comes out of this situation one thing is made as clear as it could be. The playing field is not level. The factory teams are in a position to compete on equipment that a large portion of families could not even have access to even if they had the money to . That's really a situation that needs to stop.
@randal3122 Жыл бұрын
totally agree. it seems like they need tighter spec rules that keep the bikes a lot closer to stock
@benbradshawjr2856 Жыл бұрын
I agree..what about totally stock bikes on the playing field..
@benbradshawjr2856 Жыл бұрын
No mods no nothing.the ama should make a rule on a totally stock production bike that anyone can buy from the showroom floor.no modifacations no nothing.all race the mass produced bikes.be a whole diff world.
@benbradshawjr2856 Жыл бұрын
I agree....kid steppin up to grab that bike "followin the rules"he knew deegans were cheating..why would he try...yamaha blackmailed that kid.he should get a good lawyer
@randal3122 Жыл бұрын
@@benbradshawjr2856 ya its like the one sport where you could do that because the stock bikes are so good. it would definitely be cool if they did that
@paulhockman55112 жыл бұрын
The claim was done correctly and fair. When the first conversation happened in any way other than yes or no as a response about the claim, money and politics won out. The Deegans fame and Star Yamaha and US Yamaha used their power to crush it. Shame on them. Riders is the B class with full factory bikes. It has always been this way but truly pathetic.
@jamescutting5432 жыл бұрын
What’s with questioning the kid so much. He followed the rule and paid up, shouldn’t have been any questions asked. He could have stripped the motor and shared secrets with his engine builder, built his own engines to the same spec, sold it on or just kept it for himself. If it’s his bike he should be able to do what he wants with it... Who is behind the claim also shouldn’t matter, this rule exists to keep amateur racing honest. The kid should have been able to claim the bike even if he was sponsored by another manufacturer
@kylebeach23162 жыл бұрын
Know you just said what alot of people don't want too happen if star sold haidens bike that had some pro parts in it then Schofield will be the next cheater and it'll get out of control from their and loretta Lynn's will loose its popularity because everyone will be running cheater bikes in every single class
@eric6rock2 жыл бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 that's what happens when you bring unobtainium in 250B. Star Yamaha is at Fault and Also Brian Deegan of not knowing the rule. Also the mobster way they dealt with Schofield is a Immediate investigation for sure.
@chrism87442 жыл бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 it's already like that lmao nobody is running a stock bike there even in the stock classes
@howardwest27072 жыл бұрын
Actually can't make them to exact specs as that would break patent laws which I guarantee Yamaha has in place already. He could learn from them but to make a replica and then sell it as his engineering would land him in a huge law suit.
@jordanemede2 жыл бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 no one said the bike was illegal. He wasn't cheating they just had a 50,000 bike and the rule is there for that exact reason so it's too bad the big guy won out on this one. Brennan should be riding a star bike as we speak doing whatever he pleases with it. Too bad it happened how it did.
@lect0n72 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard from multiple sources when Brennen, Derek & Brennens dad, went to Matt Walker’s Pitt & met with Donnie Luce he said two very interesting things; *1.)* _”there’s technology in the motor we don’t want released to the public”_ *2.)* you won’t be able to service this motor…not even to he will _[points at motor builder Derek Harris]_ …what I’m hearing is the engine’s got something along the lines of Electronically-Controlled Valves which operate independently from a camshaft & require timing set up from a Laptop using specialized proprietary software (which would be totally unattainable for Brennen & Derek). Beyond that, Moto 3 was a throw-away moto for Haiden, which, In my opinion makes it a good time to test the feasibility of a prototype system… & _Electronic Valve Control _ is technology which already exists, Honda’s _iVTEC_ system utilizes Electronic Valve Control, the advantage being that you could have Variable Valve Timing which could be continuously variable (with system’s like Honda’s Standard VTEC, you’re limited to a _REGULAR_ cam lobe half & a _VTEC_ cam lobe half…there’s no more, no less & nothing in between, so it would offer superior versatility in the valve timing department, & the camshaft would be a bare _dummy_ camshaft with no lobes (so lower rotating mass therefore greater acceleration). The bad Press on Yamaha from this is going to be unrecoverable…the only way they can make this right is for Brennen to be on a _Monster Energy/Star Racing/Yamaha_ in 2023
@Shawn-ts4jw Жыл бұрын
lol, you need to earn a sponsor, and that kid ain't good enough
@vitalmx2 жыл бұрын
It's a lot to unpack but check out all the interviews to really unravel this story. Intro 00:00 - 06:17 Brennan Schofield 06:18 - 44:09 Tim Cotter (MX Sports) 44:10 - 1:20:00 Mike Burkeen (AMA) 1:20:01 - 2:04:49 Brian Deegan 2:04:50 - 2:08:36
@_Vicarious2 жыл бұрын
Of course Brian was too gutless to give an interview. He gives a short, dishonest statement, tucks his tail and runs. He is the epitome of a narcissist and just a cashed up bogan.
@justingill52562 жыл бұрын
Tim Cotter is definitely not telling the truth
@straighttimestirrups2 жыл бұрын
Tim Cotton should resign/be fired from MX SPORTS Immediately! Whoever the Yamaha guy is needs to be fired immediately! Brennan should be provided with bikes and support from Yamaha as long as he desires to ride and absolutely be given Haiden’s bike with a sealed engine that will be maintained by Yamaha in-house!
@SuperLowVoltage2 жыл бұрын
@Vitalmx, I have a question. Tim Cotter conversed with Derek and Derek was quite vocal and firm. Why would Derek need to be so argumentative if Tim Cotter was helpful? Tim Cotter glosses over this.
@kungfu2toe4 ай бұрын
23:38
@jamesanthony36912 жыл бұрын
The only positive I can take from this mega cluster is that it does seem like the AMA tried to do all the right things & it’s obvious that Yamaha had a race bike at Loretta’s that they shouldn’t have been there & they were going to do anything necessary to keep that bike in their possession to include destroying a kids dream while putting hardships on a family when he did all the right things & followed all the rules.. it’s also very disappointing Brian Deegan didn’t do more to keep this poor kid from being ruined by Politics & Corporate Bureaucracy which is something I thought the Metal Mulisha was founded & stood for.. Travis Pastrana said it best, “Who’s The Real Sellout”.. I hope the Deegans use their Influence, Platform, & Connections to right this wrong & help make sure this kids name is restored & he gets a fair shot for a decent ride!! The Dealership that sponsored Brennan is a spineless little weasel. To go & threaten the kid to drop his Claim for the Bike than you go & drop his sponsorship after blackmailing him is such a Coward thing to do!! This is why less & less people are into motocross. The crazy expense it takes to be mid pack competitive, the politics, the corruption, the bullying of small teams, riders, & mechanics, etc.. it’s really become a rigged corporate shit show!! Seems to get worse every single year!!
@josephmiller80052 жыл бұрын
AMA needs to step in and do something about Star making threats to his sponsor so he would drop it because they ended up dropping him anyway after he did it and if Brian was a big of a moto man as he says he would help this kid out you figure Brian would understand stand why this kid wants this bike he was the same way at his age
@tomasvernia93502 жыл бұрын
That kid had it out for Haiden. I just read a couple of messages he sent Haiden, this kid is nothing but a punk. This deal at Loretta's he had planned for awhile just to get at Haiden. I also think his mechanic was in on this just to get his hands on the bike. Yeah the rule is there but to begin with he had never read the rule book, until his dad told him about the rule and to read the rule book.
@devo74282 жыл бұрын
@@tomasvernia9350 thats all been disproven already mate. The messages were fake.
@andrewdynes53002 жыл бұрын
The "AMA" (Burkeen) screwed up big time by not keeping the claimer anonymous and letting Deegan confront him.
@denniswilder30142 жыл бұрын
Brennan did it to himself.he was gonna put in the claim at Loretta it was a publicity stunt to get back at deegan.the kid said that yamaha was gonna pull the franchise and that could not and would not happen to much red tape to go thru on a multi franchise dealer.they sell bikes sleds side by sides and marine dealership of yamaha products.then he thru Matt walker under the bus and also by saying his motors keep blowing up throws his motor builder under the bus.and now the kid has a go fund me page.
@ghpjerry2 жыл бұрын
EDIT: Brennan respecting his Sponsors request, was stand up, but for the Sponsor to drop him afterwards is cowardice and BS! That dealer needs to feel what it feels like to be betrayed, do not buy a damn thing from that dealer. This is less of an interview & more of Michael doing as he does, loves to listen to himself talk. You are truly a lover of the sport & have great connections, but man c'mon, let someone speak their own words, every question you had was "Leading" and not in good form for an interviewer. Brennan is getting a bad rap from this and should sue. Any man interrogating a child that is his childs competitor is not ok, never, without formers parents being present, punk move by Big B! Pushing around a child. Nice. Yamaha has lost a lifelong customer from this.
@Justahobbyoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention any body else outside of racing would win a lawsuit like this. Lawyers would salivate about a case like this. Put people under oath and see what is.
@Justahobbyoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
This interviewer sucks obviously sounds like dealership was told holding off on pulling bikes because this would be a slam dunk lawsuit with pulling the bikes of the dealership claim to vital mx is true that they dodnt pull their bikes. This kid would've never said it unless it was true at the moment of dealership of it wasn't stayed by the dealership
@evanburke42692 жыл бұрын
He brought negative attention. Right or wrong he’s more risk than reward
@evanburke42692 жыл бұрын
@@Justahobbyoutdoors wrong. The moment Brennan said he was not pressured to back down he forfeited all opportunities
@howardwest27072 жыл бұрын
@@Justahobbyoutdoors i am prettt sure if there is a contract between Brennan and his sponsor there are outs for the sponsor if the person they are sponsoring does something detrimental to their business. Sponsors often drop their clients for things that are not illegal but bring bad press to their sponsors and their clients. Prime examples are Kyle Larson and also a WoO driver who lost his ride and sponsors for cheating with a out of spec frame. Tyler Walker is another but what he was supposedly doing was illegal related to drug use. So guarantee the sponsor and their business are better protected than any client they may have. He gave them bad press to include claiming Yamaha strong armed his sponsors business which was a lie.
@njmxjunkie31282 жыл бұрын
I think more People should be using this rule to Their advantage. For many reasons. One it would really level the playing field and force these guys to be better riders. Two Over time if enough people claim bikes it would eventually bring the costs down On bike and aftermarket oarts
@rico80892 жыл бұрын
MXJunkie I agree 👍🏼 and it's supposed to be amateur racing, there should only be Limited D, C, B & A classes no Mod classes, that way it would be about the talent and determination of the rider not the pocketbook of the parents. 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
@njmxjunkie31282 жыл бұрын
@@rico8089 facts
@tommypetrie212 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more bike claiming!!! Wouldn't that keep things in check!
@markanthonysugino57422 жыл бұрын
You will see it in the next Loretta Lyn trust me..
@hastymxb2 жыл бұрын
drama fiend
@peaceprayer5952 жыл бұрын
more kids with bags full of money I say!!!
@leccross2 жыл бұрын
@@peaceprayer595 for sure 😂😂😂😂
@kendoi6282 жыл бұрын
MX screwed the pouch and so did Yamaha. Our world is in a spinning out of control ...lack of truth and honesty...we need to be able to call each other out. This is more of the same of the big guy stepping on the little guy...if you have power your right...thats soooo du cked up.....
@adamrobbins20912 жыл бұрын
Might is right. Rules for thee not for me.
@vintage302 жыл бұрын
Yup we the people with money don’t agree with you therefore you will be canceled. Bunch of bs…
@jpslayermayor92932 жыл бұрын
How the world goes around unfortunately, that's why they thought they could (and to this point have succeeded) get away with intimidating and stopping the bike claim to Brennan.
@worm8692 жыл бұрын
Would you rather have a star bike that you can’t ride? Or a Yamaha support deal to carry you through the rest of your career 🤔. Pretty tough decision to put your kid through… I know my parents would have chosen the Yamaha deal over the bike any day!
@kendoi6282 жыл бұрын
@@jpslayermayor9293 The kid is a very mature and well spoken, really impressed.
@xafbxmoto2692 жыл бұрын
Get factory teams out of amateur racing for good. This is pay to play at this point.
@harryballs62642 жыл бұрын
Exactly !!
@kylebeach23162 жыл бұрын
Then what would be the point too even go too lorettas then 🤔 alot of kids go too loretta Lynn's because they want too get into a factory team and get a factory ride. Take that out and boom loretta Lynn's will not be as popular because it won't be worth the trip and money.
@xafbxmoto2692 жыл бұрын
@@adamheichel7066 This.
@Dave-tn3eo2 жыл бұрын
And thats what the kid was doing haha he sucked so he needed to buy a bike and still would have sucked
@zwtvchannel2 жыл бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 read the comment again 🤦♂️ how on earth did you read the comment, process it then write something completely different? Kids race at Loretta’s to get onto a factory team. Not to race against a factory team. There’s a difference…
@terryfonz46032 жыл бұрын
I think the AMA needed to step up and tell parties involved to take a hike! Brennan claimed goes back to his trailer and AMA should have told everyone else go away it’s none of your businesss including Haiden and Brian it’s not their business it’s not their bike!!! MX sports has no business this is an AMA deal alone!!! If Mx sports wanted to prohibit or get involved they need to be threatened they won’t promote an ama race again! AMA needed to throw their weight around if they running AMA rules they wear the pants!
@Tuckerfranciss2 жыл бұрын
right! it's not the deegans bike, they literally have nothing to do with it besides haiden riding it.
@shawnshaulis6012 жыл бұрын
Haiden still had a race 4 a championship in morning can't just take his bike.
@doglover136_2 жыл бұрын
haiden wasn’t involved
@jordanemede2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnshaulis601 that was all set up did you not listen to the interview? The bike would be sealed and handed over to Brennan after haidens moto. It was legal and they fvcked him
@shawnshaulis6012 жыл бұрын
@@jordanemede unwritten rule don't claim other people's bikes! That's why nobody new protocol, because u just don't do it. Plus on a mental note how does that not distract you or piss you off before the biggest race of your life. Spent months on setup!!
@npage.2 жыл бұрын
Why is the promoter guy calling himself an official
@HarborEdwin2 жыл бұрын
I have a Question: Per Mike Burkeen interview 1:31:45 why did Tim Cotter ask Brennan's engine builder to stay outside because he was not Brennan's Guardian, yet Tim Cotter says in his interview 53:20 he thought Brennan to be 18? Separating out Brennan's adult companion, was probably not the wisest choice, do you not agree?
@foghornleghorn85362 жыл бұрын
Rich people will always come out on top, it's the way they designed the system.
@peaceprayer5952 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael. You're the only one who has the facts straight on this epic drama obviously created by Star and Yamaha representatives.
@motowrld2 жыл бұрын
Bruhhh! The screenshot at the end got me so weak. Someone really screenshot this kids snap story and sent it to Brian who had them saved.. lmaoo wonder if it was extra motivation. Entertaining as it gets. Legendary story in motocross. Best of luck to both racers!
@racingwrld2 жыл бұрын
the other one wont get anywhere if hes that insecure on others
@motowrld2 жыл бұрын
@@racingwrld trash talk happens in every sport
@racingwrld2 жыл бұрын
@@motowrld purposely crashing into someone is not trashtalk, he hated haiden and he couldve went straight went he went wide but he obviously went for haiden and crashed into him, brennan has nothing to lose, haiden has, and brennan knows that, i feel like brennan is like a little psychotic, hes not normal.
@Suckitupbuttercup4072 жыл бұрын
@@racingwrld what😂 it’s a kid mad🤷🏼♂️ I’ve seen Haiden at world minis in 2015 kick the crap out his bike and storm off cause it blew up
@onthegasapparel77172 жыл бұрын
I figure if I comment here maybe it will reach out... Amateur motocross should be about the best product manufacturers can provide to amateur racing without any modifications other than suspension valving to fine tune for the rider. Take karting for example, Louis Hamilton raced with a locked stock motor like every one else. Talent and hard work is what drove him to success. That principle should be applied to motocross. This allows for equal racing throughout amateur levels. Money is almost out of the equation. Talent and work ethic would be the ultimate differentiator between racers.
@zooted54432 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Matt Walker threatening to beat the engine builder.
@ricksmith76592 жыл бұрын
It's all so disgusting
@venicebeachsportsnetwork66772 жыл бұрын
Matt said the engine builder was loitering in his pit and wouldn't leave
@SuperLowVoltage2 жыл бұрын
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Brendan says THEY were invited to come in and sit down, and talk it out.
@SuperLowVoltage2 жыл бұрын
*Brennan
@SuperLowVoltage2 жыл бұрын
*Brennan
@yoda68zac112 жыл бұрын
Said to Brian "as long as you're professional" Brian then says "I want to ask them why". At that point he should have been told no you can't talk to him then Brian. That's not a legitimate question under this rule
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
100% the fact that they put him in a room with Brennan is a disgrace
@wyatt57122 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter too much but you should see Brennans comments made towards haiden during races before Loretta’s
@Shawn-ts4jw2 жыл бұрын
Really? Anyone can ask anyone why they want to do something. Does not mean the person must respond.
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
@@Shawn-ts4jw being put into a room with a minor without his parents there to intimidate him? That’s not just asking him a question that’s bullying . Brian doesn’t own that bike , even if he did the kids was within the rules , paid the money . He shouldn’t have anything to do with it and definitely should be allowed to confront the kid in a formal setting .
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
@@wyatt5712 you’re right , it doesn’t matter
@GreanBicycles2 жыл бұрын
preparing the youth for their future..the big guys screw the little guys..get used to it
@adamrobbins20912 жыл бұрын
Yep
@paulrash88612 жыл бұрын
Damn straight bro.
@vonrunner2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this story has blown up this much. I also can't believe people are blowing up Brennan, the Deegans, AMA, or Tim Cotter. From what is coming out it seems they didn't do anything wrong (of course it's easy to look back and pick apart little things, but overall they all handled the situation well considering the circumstances). To me it seems the most questionable events occurred with Matt Walker and the motor builder. Sounds like they were both too aggressive at different points in the event which neither of them should have been involved with. Obviously if Yamaha threatened a dealer license that's a big deal, but we'll probably never hear if that actually happened or not. Also interesting is the social media posts shown in this video from Brennan... it does appear he may have had some more underlying motivation than what he has lead on. Definitely doesn't make his claim of the bike wrong or invalid, just a bit more interesting haha.
@andrewdynes53002 жыл бұрын
Burkeen (AMA) screwed up the worst by not keeping Brennan anonymous, and letting Deegan confront him
@katelyntuohyfans2 жыл бұрын
Brennan said himself that he doesn't know if his bike sponsor / yamaha dealer was threatened by Yamaha, it was assumed by Cooksey Media, by Brennan himself. So many parts of this mess are mostly assumed.
@elevated-apparel2 жыл бұрын
Your not go say this when your sponsorship is on the line. trust that.
@obiron20992 жыл бұрын
If the dealer weren't threatened, they wouldn't have called Schofield.
@slynn51382 жыл бұрын
@@obiron2099 sure they would have, it was casting a negative shadow on the dealership and they wanted nothing to do with it. Chris the dealership’s owner released a statement that at no point did anyone from Yamaha Motorcycle Corporation contact them regarding the issue.
@garethcrothers79892 жыл бұрын
Get Brendan a new sponsor deal!
@voodootele2 жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention, as he did in the other video that Hayden and his buddies followed him back to his camper from the AMA building, and hung around his camper in an intimidating way.
@lit5492 жыл бұрын
Have you not seen the post that Brennan had made talking shit to Haiden, leading up to Lorettas?? Id have done the same thing as Haiden.
@superdirty63312 жыл бұрын
@@lit549 athletes talk shit to each other all of the time. They then usually battle in their respective sport and that’s it or it carry’s on to the next event. They don’t then go on to wait by a team bus to intimidate or follow them to their hotel room and stand glaring in the hallways. Your point is irrelevant anyways because it was after Schofield made the claim so he was trying to find out who he was and intimidate. He’s probably the one who reported who the sponsor was which is ultimately what got them their way.
@lit5492 жыл бұрын
@@superdirty6331 ahhh, so you have no problem with some random kid making this "claim", after its proven that he was just a butthurt kid thats jealous of Haiden?? Seems rational..and also, do talk shit if you cant deal with the consequences!
@Rips4Days2 жыл бұрын
Your telling me a 16 year old kid was scaring someone? What soft fucking planet do you live on
@richhomiemo67062 жыл бұрын
@@superdirty6331 there's a point where talking shit gets taken to far respectfully from what brennan said to haiden if that was me i woulda fucked him up you can talk shit but to a certain extent
@mulliganracingmulliganraci68082 жыл бұрын
Brendan should have kept the star bike because from what I heard dealership took his Yamahas away sad to hear Yamaha would do that
@KeenPotato2 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to get this kid a bike now. Shame on Yamaha for trying to make this go away. That bike should be his..
@indorider3 ай бұрын
I have been waiting to hear Tim Cotter's viewpoint and kudos to you to getting the people imvolved to speak on this. I feel for Tim for being villified for doing his job and following the rules as they are written.
@Jorgem10102 жыл бұрын
If AMA doesn’t do anything about this they are enabling this behavior. They need to take action on the bullies. Proof power is everything. Not everyone has the luck of being born to greatness or born knowing people. This kid just has a dream to ride a factory bike. Ends up being it was an unobtanium 😂
@traveler1422 жыл бұрын
No One was Bullied, that was a two faced Lie... listen to Brennen's Trainer... it was the Engine Builder behind the claim and he went through Brennen and Deegan to attempt to get it... knowledge is power... go get some.
@tripleeathletics Жыл бұрын
“I don’t recall when he left, But he did leave…” Thanks for helping us clear that up Sir…
@toddmatson41792 жыл бұрын
Tim Cotter is not a Rules official...He works for the promoter..
@joed92692 жыл бұрын
ya ... but he helps write the rules but doesn't know them
@matthewcornell50772 жыл бұрын
Seems like in this interview, the mechanic was involved even if it wasn't going to be fully for himself...(they were planning this claim since march but his dad went to get water for a pressure in the 30 mins they have to make the claim?? and the engine guy happens to be there with a golf cart but waits outside, also the screenshot shows they did not like deegans), but also on the other side seems yamaha did try and get the kid to stop the claim and did talk to his sponsor and even after withdrawing probably still influenced the dealer to drop him.
@MARCHOFTHESAS2 жыл бұрын
How was it in ama official possession if he had it ??? Does he think he is an official or
@extremedf532 жыл бұрын
Right on
@roblilt73592 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion, it feels like this was an unfortunate situation getting blown out of proportion at this point, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I find it hard to believe Yamaha would risk the negative press of actually denying a dealer product just because they sponsor a rider who claimed a factory bike. Now the bike sponsor pulling their sponsorship in the aftermath does muddy it for sure. It can look from the outside that Yamaha is the one who told them to drop him, but equally they may have dropped him thinking this claim situation is bad press. The fact they have made sure to tell Brennan not to name them makes me lean to the latter, which coincidentally is even worse press.
@whippetcanister42782 жыл бұрын
idk how u find it hard to believe when it actually happened, i thought it was bs too until they pulled the sponsorship even after the kid took back the claim. i don’t wanna believe it, but it’s true. won’t ever catch me on a yami after this, sucks bc i always thought they made the best bikes but i’m not supporting a company that does shady shit like that, this whole thing is messed up and it falls on yamaha and the deegans
@splmagician22 жыл бұрын
@@whippetcanister4278 how can you say it happened ? Multiple people have insisted no one ever pulled those strings. From listening to all story’s it just seems like the shop owner was at lorrettas already and did that all on his own.
@michaelmorton67812 жыл бұрын
Is Cotter an AMA official? 58 minutes into this video cotter says he’s an AMA official and put the bike in his trailer
@elevated-apparel2 жыл бұрын
Right I though I was the only one that heard that. So if it went in his trailer then I wouldn't want it either cuz he would of let Deegan and star bring a bike in late at night and Swap the parts.
@goldsbym2 жыл бұрын
Cotter sounds like he is trying to patronize the kid Brennan, which makes me think Cotter must have made a few mistakes with this whole situation.
@Thecorlees2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how serious and big this all got
@ricksmith76592 жыл бұрын
It needs to go viral in the MX community. Call out how fake the Deegans are and how corrupt the manufacturers are.
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the kid was bullied ….. disgraceful . I think he exposed what star really was running . The fact they were so defensive about it says all you need to know .
@therawlifefamily2 жыл бұрын
I don't think star was in the wrong with their bike but they handled the whole situation wrong because they clearly did not want to lose the bike no matter what
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
@@therawlifefamily why didn’t they want to lose the bike ? They said in their own words that they didn’t want the engine to be pulled apart by anyone . It may or may not have been illegal that’s not the point . They bullied a 17 year old kid who was well within his rights to do what he did . Pretty extreme lengths to go to if they just had an amateur spec engine in that bike
@MARCHOFTHESAS2 жыл бұрын
@@Ozfreerider_adventures I think it’s more on yamaha corp as well for pulling the whole sponsor stunt
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
@@MARCHOFTHESAS well Deegan was in there interrogating the kid so it was obviously more than just yamaha
@Ozfreerider_adventures2 жыл бұрын
@@therawlifefamily I wonder what Deegan would say if another parent took his son into a room without him there and asked him questions . My guess is he’d lose his shit over it
@bradmaxkristie2 жыл бұрын
the kid should have the bike!! period.
@advanceddiesel77662 жыл бұрын
Excellent job coordinating these interviews. I watched this video with a friend of mine and we had just a few questions on the matter. If we could ask Tim Cotter a few questions, these would be them. #1. It seems that you continually spoke in hypothetical terms while referring to the claiming rule. How many times have you personally been an intricate part of the claiming rule and how many times. Second part of this question… Do people that claim bikes typically know how many races, classes the bike is registered to participate in that day, weekend, etc.? #2. After all the interactions you had with Derek, how is it possible you can’t remember his name? It would seem elementary to retain this information, especially because I’d assume there has been a lot of “water cooler talk” about this, post situation. #3. Not knowing whose name was on the check, not knowing the rule book, simply forgetting key details, so many red flags. Moving forward, do you feel business ethics and processes need to be reviewed? I’m sorry, but my friend that watched this with me has been a phycologist for over 15 years now…. He seems to think Tim is not being fully inclusive or transparent. Just his humble opinion from a grainy YT video.
@cnm2219872 жыл бұрын
Brian Deegan, If you had that child cornered in a room, at all.? If Star Yamaha had anything to do with forcing the person that claimed the said motorcycle to back out or lose any portion of that person’s sponsorship. The Deegan’s and or Star Yamaha are liable for this and should/can be sued for damages. Brian, you have royally messed this situation. I’ll comment more after I get Mr. Deegan’s rebuttal.
@dougie7302 жыл бұрын
What damages?
@zonapainter2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Brian really cares what you have to say.
@cnm2219872 жыл бұрын
@@dougie730 Such as losing a sponsorship.
@cnm2219872 жыл бұрын
@@zonapainter Lol, Brian most likely couldn’t care less about my comments. I just wanted to express my thoughts and my support for the person that did everything by the rules and was royally screwed. This situation reinforces the fact that if a person/company has enough money they can just ignore the rules.
@goldsbym2 жыл бұрын
You will be waiting a long time. 😆
@williamfoster5112 жыл бұрын
The the real person comes out when put to the test..Matt Walker....( just and old bully)
@josephmiller80052 жыл бұрын
Yea and AMA should do something about him
@tommypetrie212 жыл бұрын
Typical big guy squishes little guy. Lots of people with blood on their hands here.
@JamesSmith-so8zy2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t an interview this is an interrogation
@Andrew-zd1rn2 жыл бұрын
100% a lot of leading the witness, if I was a lawyer I would of objected to most of these questions...lol
@FANLESS2 жыл бұрын
This is like a gnarly deposition.
@billybills2 жыл бұрын
Lawyer: Now is that how you understood the rule in the rulebook to read? Defendant: Yes. Lawyer: Mmm-hmm... And is that when Mr. Deegan said you could rail his daughter if you would rescind the claim? Defendant: Yes, and they said I could get 2 crate motors!
@travbowers58732 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the Tim guy is the one that got the sponsor involved?
@gricasmoto37452 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who say listen each side than find the truth somewhere In the middle instead saying I know the truth because I heard from somebody who knows somebody b.s.
@neilrowe1192 жыл бұрын
Young Man was very cogent and respectful. Respect to him.
@stephenwilson10122 жыл бұрын
I'm a big boy I don't need my dad 10 min later - they didn't treat me like a kid I'm just a kid. A yamaha support rider trying to claim a yamaha factory bike, I thought this would go better....
@SeanWilliams-jf6bg Жыл бұрын
Is not part of the rule you must race the class? So can a 50 + rider claim a 65cc bike?
@mikebruce60372 жыл бұрын
Brian Deegan tries to be father of the year in each video. And its easy to look that way when you have those resources. But I have always felt that the dude slithers instead of walks.
@TVLON2 жыл бұрын
💯
@AAAskeet2 жыл бұрын
:51 f Cotter.Anybody can be the kid's agent to discuss the claim.Pushing the builder out was shady.
@xafbxmoto2692 жыл бұрын
The way he was saying he came in aggressive was shady too. Like he had to get that out there multiple times.
@buckydoedowner90402 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, you been stirring this pot harder than anyone. lol
@easternsaxon78202 жыл бұрын
Good for business. More views= more money.
@markmcmahen94422 жыл бұрын
Michael enough with the commercials! Great interview though, thanks
@phil96342 жыл бұрын
Funny how the people in charge won’t talk to the engine builder because he is not the parent. But every yamaha dealer/Rep/ dealer can ask them why, what’s your intensions? That’s BS. IT SHOULD BE BRENDAN AND AMA. The END. Yamaha should not have been able to talk to BRENDAN TELL AFTER BRENDAN GETS THE BIKE AND IF HE WANTED TO TALK TO THEM. Why should the trainer and sponser be telling him not to do this. Lol. Sounds like lawsuit coming. Poor kid.
@shawnrucker4412 жыл бұрын
If nobody from Yamaha or the trainer did not call the sponsor then how did they even know about the claim ?
@deanharris93312 жыл бұрын
I bet Mitch Payton gave the kid $17,000 to go and claim the bike 🤣
@brandoncioli69792 жыл бұрын
Take the name degan, and star racing out of it. You spend thousands and thousands of dollars on suspension parts, a few thousand dollars on a mod motor(like all top amateur kids families do) not to mention the hrs tuning and getting the bike ready, and it turns out to be the baddest bike on the property. Another guy decides to use a loop hole rule to buy your bike for about half of what you really have in it. How would y’all really react
@parkersgarage42162 жыл бұрын
A rule is a rule bud, that rule is to make it fair for everybody. That rule makes it so it isn't pay to play. Fuck your feelings, you shouldn't have that caliber of bike at that event knowing that RULE exists. Sorry pal
@Jone5y2 жыл бұрын
I hope Brennan enjoys a 9 to 5
@zee.___moose9412 жыл бұрын
I assume the dealership is Rallye motoplex. Did some digging and why would he not blow them out? If someone took my bikes back and basically said f you I would blow them the hell out. The bridge was burnt the second they took the bikes back
@mx2strokes2502 жыл бұрын
He had 17k to buy deegans bike, then a week later when his sponsor wants their bikes back he's talking about his parents trying to work something out to get him a bike, and his friends are offeering him bikes to ride, what happened to the 17k, surely he can just buy a new bike
@xmarkedx Жыл бұрын
He slips up and says my parents are going to buy me a bike...if you had the 17k that you were going to use wouldnt you buy your own bike?
@MrAZGUNNER2 жыл бұрын
They really screwed the kid over. Doesn’t the rule say if they don’t turn it over they get DQ. And ban for so long
@jackrobertson78882 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to any of these interviews?
@Shawn-ts4jw2 жыл бұрын
Well, if they guy pulls the claim and takes his money back that's good reason not to give the bike to him.
@MrAZGUNNER2 жыл бұрын
They forced him to stop his claim dummies
@byroncrews37582 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest the motor builder had a lot more involved than he likes to lead on seems like they're trying to be the victims now you should have known if you go at the most superstar in your sport it's not going to be pretty not saying he was wrong or right you just got to be willing to accept the consequences that comes along with it and that might be losing a sponsor the sponsor didn't like it maybe you should have thought a little bit harder about it instead of listening to the engine builder because I believe he had a lot to do with it
@jordanharris5013 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 10 months late on this but this 100%. The engine builder cost this kid everything all because of his selfish reasons. He had to know at least some of the risks involved and still risked the kids career. He should have the bike tho 100% still or Yamaha could have paid them not to take it. Right or wrong technically speaking doesn't matter. The kid got fucked cause of him. I don't know why other people aren't coming to this conclusion.
@Brandon-kh7me2 жыл бұрын
He should of not backed out he lost his bike sponsor anyway and now he should sue. The tactics they used would of made me dead set on going through with the deal and when I was retaliated against I would of been in court getting alot more. I would have stood my ground to the end no matter the out come. I also think that 1 AMA offical should be assigned to the person making the claim to make sure no pressure is applied from other team.
@fuckucatchme1000rr2 жыл бұрын
Presenter throwing hardball questions at the kid and total softball questions to this Tom Cotter guy who is clearly lying. Why sir did you have a private meeting with the kid and Brian Deegan? What in the rule book states Brian Deegan has a right to cross examine a minor based on a clear rule? What role did you have in threatening the kids sponsor? Why are you skipping the second meeting where you continued to threaten the family? That was a trash interview bro, you’re clearly biased towards Tim Cotter.
@cryptotroll12322 жыл бұрын
Classic Brian Deegan, calls the kid dirty for wanting to do a monetized youtube video about the bike, when he himself has the biggest monetized channel in the sport. Whats dirty is blackmailing a 17 year old out of his sponsorships. I sure wish the kid would have gone thru with it and revealed why Star could not let that bike be claimed.
@racingwrld2 жыл бұрын
Brennan hated Haiden, he was already talking shit about Haiden before the race at Southwick then crashed into Haiden at Southwick and talked shit about Haiden after Southwick kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaSzpGOomNmNgtU
@justingill52562 жыл бұрын
Lol defamed from KZbin he defamed himself
@p2o8wer2 жыл бұрын
The kid should’ve went through with it because they were going to yank his sponsees to begin with. Atleast he would have a badass bike.
@Shawn-ts4jw2 жыл бұрын
When did he call him dirty? Who blackmailed him? His own sponsors?
@cryptotroll12322 жыл бұрын
@@Shawn-ts4jw watch the Deegans recent lorettas video. At the end Brian talks about the situation. He plays it off like its no big deal and the kid was just trying to make a buck off their family. Calls were made to the kids sponsors thru the yamaha channels that could be considered a form of blackmail that forced him to rescind his claim.
@SeanWilliams-jf6bg Жыл бұрын
Is not part of the rule you must race the class? So can a 50 + rider claim a 65cc bike?
@seancrowley47102 жыл бұрын
Where were all of the Deegan cameras when this went down? 😂 Lot of naïve people in these comments that have no comprehension of how the sport (or the world, for that matter) really works. The little guy gets squeezed and the big guy gets away with it. Rules for thee, not for me. Maybe don’t put a $70k bike with proprietary technology in an amateur race…this is what ruins the sport at an amateur level.
@ricksmith76592 жыл бұрын
Well said
@jordanemede2 жыл бұрын
Rules for thee and not for me! In a post COVID world this is DEAD ON brother!
@christophervillarreal85656 ай бұрын
💯
@chupacabraracing1812 жыл бұрын
Matt walker, Brian deegan, TC, Yamaha are all guilty of punking a kid out of using an ama rule. Plain and simple. Totally disgusting
@michaelharold13662 жыл бұрын
You can’t go through life thinking there are no consequences to your actions. He absolutely can claim the bike, but all the people that he depends on doesn’t have to like it.
@jeffreymoran62342 жыл бұрын
You know why they did that too the kid?
@christoph95872 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!! The kid shoulda just stayed in his lane. Yep...he can claim a bike. But good luck dealing with all the bs that goes along with it. Props... he now has no ride due to being dropped lmfao!!! Props to Brennan for that one. Lesson learned the hard way.
@chupacabraracing1812 жыл бұрын
@@christoph9587 definitely one of the dumbest takes on this situation that I've seen. Congratulations on that I guess
@chupacabraracing1812 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharold1366 they don't have to like it, but it's a fkn AMA rule so they have to sit there quietly and not like it while ama handles it. No reason for anyone to talk to Brennan after he claimed the bike other than ama officials, which neither walker, deegan, TC, or Yamaha are apart of. It's the facts jack.
@doctodd67552 жыл бұрын
Too bad they can’t make a claim anonymously directly wit the AMA especially if it’s a factory team. To protect the amateur riders from the powers that be
@jennifersprague85852 жыл бұрын
Why would you “claim” something anonymously youd be caught very quickly considering you have to use the bike..🤣
@pendulum19972 жыл бұрын
@@jennifersprague8585 so you can’t be bullied and threatened whilst the claim is ongoing, once the bike is yours then it’s not a problem.
@marksvideochannel35922 жыл бұрын
That's a really good idea. The AMA should take that on board.
@rockyfortenberry58452 жыл бұрын
@@jennifersprague8585 you can have the bike taken to a shop or anywhere behind a curtain really an swap plastics and that's that. the rider does not have to ride the bike that same day or at said event. the rider can take it home and do what they want with it.
@peaceprayer5952 жыл бұрын
that makes no sense..sorry.
@daveb412 жыл бұрын
Let’s face it, the whole thing is a complete cluster
@vitalmx2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is. As we stated at the top of this video, when this many people get involved…stuff gets mixed up and can get miss-communicated, miss-understood or miss-handled very quickly.
@daveb412 жыл бұрын
Got to give you credit for the best reporting on this by far, your the first to talk to all the parties involved, seems like there has been a LOT of miss reporting on this as others have only been going on hearsay and one side only. Keep up the good work Micheal. 👍🏻
@wfodavid2 жыл бұрын
@@vitalmx You dont want the big manufacturers/Teams/Mx Sorts to black ball you because they can and will. Then you are Done! They rule the sport NOT the riders.
@cjwright19602 жыл бұрын
According to the rules the kid dropped the $$$, the talking should have stopped then. His money and the rule book should be all the talking that was needed. If there was nothing to hide then Star and Yamaha would have just let it go in accordance with the cash and the rules. I would carry that $17,000 to every track for the rest of my career just to keep them honest.
@78raarons2 жыл бұрын
No shit, I'm glad everyone knows this is an option too..
@MrMcGuck2 жыл бұрын
Can only claim a bike at Loretta’s not every or any amateur race.
@rickybecklund24882 жыл бұрын
@@MrMcGuck exactly ..this was big oversight on Yamaha part but as we just listened engine builder called week in advance asking how this works so he lied he knew well before the race what was gonna happen when he acted like he found out night before ..that lie didn't age well...then Brennan social media post legit talking shit about hayden leading up to this ...no wonder why Brian asked why are you doing this..... Deegans aren't to blame ...the engine builder and Brennan were in on it but hey its a rule ....but this was very well planned and backfired..we all know next year theirs gonna be lots claims at Loretta now lol
@johnh23492 жыл бұрын
@@MrMcGuck dude! What in the world is it with you on every single post, spewing this ignorance? It is literally, every single AMA sanctioned race. As a matter of fact, the price is less for smaller races. 2x is the high water mark and it is only at Lorettas.
@MrMcGuck2 жыл бұрын
@@rickybecklund2488 exactly this was planned in advance
@SYNCROORG2 жыл бұрын
Brennan should get a lawyer and sue the pants off of Yamaha for extortion. Threatening him and his sponsor the way they did is indeed extortion, perhaps even criminal extortion. Yamaha’s lawyers are probably very nervous and very concerned. What they did is the epitome of thuggery and the antithesis of professionalism. It’s a disgrace. Same with what Cotter did. Sue them all, Brennan! They surely deserve it. And the AMA should fine Yamaha and force them to give the bike to Brennan or be banned from racing for a year … like the rule book says.
@danielhamilton13412 жыл бұрын
The bike was up for claim Schofield claimed it and then all the shit and bullying and intimidation started don't want it claimed don't race factory bike in amateurs that's why the rule is there for
@justf122 жыл бұрын
Im so beyond lost. What is meant by "claim", he claimed a bike to use? Like he wanted to buy a new bike on the spot at the biggest race of the year that he has never ridden before just guessing that he'd be able to ride it well, and that bike was actually Keegan's bike provided to Keegan by Yamaha? Is that basically what happened? Since when was this ever a thing??
@xafbxmoto2692 жыл бұрын
@@justf12 The claim rule has been around for decades
@donbrashsux2 жыл бұрын
👍End of story
@justf122 жыл бұрын
@@xafbxmoto269 That seems so crazy, I never knew this was a thing. So why dont people just constantly claim other top ameaturs bikes all the time? Im assuming its looked very down upon? If it was my bike, id be like is this a joke…. my bikes not for sale on craigslist…lol!
@xafbxmoto2692 жыл бұрын
@@justf12 Well it's not their bike it's star Yamahas. Usually it doesn't happen because they're just as worried about getting their bikes claimed. Smaller guys like Brennan don't have 20-30-40-50k builds so he would probably be hyped if someone claimed his bike.
@jconstantine5052 жыл бұрын
Should bring Matt Walker on to see if he is down to really fight someone who paid him?
@evanburke42692 жыл бұрын
Matt isn’t scared to fight man lol I seen Matt fight a drunk fan at washougal max in 03. Matt can scrap
@AAAskeet2 жыл бұрын
@@evanburke4269 he should be so proud
@williams215s92 жыл бұрын
@@evanburke4269 fighting a drunk man something to brag about 🤣
@jconstantine5052 жыл бұрын
@@evanburke4269 must be such a highlight! Even more professional than I could imagine🙄🙄
@Mp-jw1qg2 жыл бұрын
yeah, the second he started verbally attacking the father and made threats, i would have set their entire rig on fire and knocked matts little ass clean out if that was my dad.
@BAYAREAMX2 жыл бұрын
He claimed the bike, he should own the bike. Star racing messed up and do anything they could to prevent the claim from happening.
@tedulmer78802 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right!
@traveler1422 жыл бұрын
any proof of this claim...? I'm guessing not... am I right
@dahigiman41992 жыл бұрын
@@traveler142 obviously haven't listened to the hrs of evidence
@kountatalk2 жыл бұрын
@@traveler142 so cotter, deegan, donnie, matt and the sponsor trying to change brennans decision isnt trying to "prevent" the claim?? What more proof do you need? They themselves admit this
@ryanschulte90402 жыл бұрын
How is it that I have never been to or raced at LL and know more about the claiming rule than Brian Deegan and Tim Cotter?
@tedulmer78802 жыл бұрын
I've raced at LL when you could win as an amateur. That's long gone these days.
@jeffberg95222 жыл бұрын
Brian Deegan has threaded to claim bikes in the past so he knows the rule. He’s just stupid.
@levonstilson90322 жыл бұрын
There is a reason they didn’t want it claimed. The reason is because they were running stuff that this rule was intended to prevent them from running.
@traveler1422 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki, Honda, Gas Gas, KTM etc. all do the same shit... they are protecting their investment in technology... in the end Yamaha probably told the kid to fuck off... the kid fucked off...
@NorthRiverRidge2 жыл бұрын
More than likely. If not, they could of followed the rule, went home with $17k and built another one.
@odinslain26082 жыл бұрын
That's why brain deegan said the kid was trying to defame his family. How is buying a bike defaming.. ITS BECAUSE THEY WERE CHEATING... Pastrana said this years ago about Brian
@slayer69362 жыл бұрын
Or they did not want industrial espionage!! Yamahas engine is the best out there and all the other factory engine builders would love to breack it down and see whats inside there and use it on there engines!!
@jonpayne20092 жыл бұрын
You think it’s that easy? All the hours of seat time and tuning put in being comfortable on the bike would be gone . Just cause you build a new bike with the same parts doesn’t make it the same bike . It’s a solid way to set someone back months /make them less competitive … looks like a hatred towards someone and anyway to set them back … smh sad times for all
@RadioReprised2 жыл бұрын
Deegan does not own the Bike, so only the owner should have had any chance to talk to the Kid. The AMA should learn from this the new procedure for a claim. Claimant files in the AMA Office and all business including the handover occurs under their watch. Boom-no more B.S. and intimidation so the AMA's own RULE is enforced.
@mr29812 жыл бұрын
Nobody except the person filing the claim and the AMA reps, whose job it is to impound the bike and deliver it to the claimaint, should have been involved, period.
@justlucky82542 жыл бұрын
If a bike is claimed, the AMA should do their job as the middleman and insure the bike is delivered as it should be. The claimant shouldn't even be named and nobody should be permitted to speak to them to try and dissuade them or anything else.
@evanburke42692 жыл бұрын
Or just earn a factory ride if you really want to ride one
@wllms022 жыл бұрын
@@evanburke4269 Or you know don’t bring factory shit to a “Amateur” race.
@ronaldtravis9702 жыл бұрын
@@evanburke4269It’s not about earning a factory ride , it’s Amateur racing , isn’t supposed to even be a factory bike racing . The AMA has a rule in place to avoid all this nonsense . The kid claimed the bike by the rules. Star and Yamaha did what they wanted with no regard for the rules of Amateur racing . Kid did nothing wrong .
@eye2eye3492 жыл бұрын
Personally I think they had something in that bike that they didn't want out
@dragonbreath87692 жыл бұрын
What in the hell made this guy think that it was the right thing to do to bring that kid into a room alone for 20 minutes without waiting for his father or requesting his father sit
@PainterFRO2 жыл бұрын
More importantly with his father being there and knowing what he was doing why didnt he go with him in the first place?
@ricksmith76592 жыл бұрын
@@PainterFRO I don't know but if Brian and Mat did that to my son I would of choked them both in the middle of the pits.
@davis2sh2 жыл бұрын
The story appears to have been 3 to 5 minutes
@denniswilder30142 жыл бұрын
The first interaction wasn't with ama it was with cotter and deegan
@PainterFRO2 жыл бұрын
@@denniswilder3014 He clearly said he went to the AMA trailer and filed the claim first.
@josephdeveny54202 жыл бұрын
This leaves such a sour taste in my mouth, the kid lost his bikes even after he pulled the claim. if you can't see that people are doing things behind the scenes to mess with Brennan because of this claim open your eyes. No one should have been allowed to make contact with Brennan after he made the claim he was clearly pressured into pulling the claim. if you don't want your bike to be claimed don't bring a 40 thousand dollar bike to an amateur race. Haiden is clearly the real deal and will have a very long professional career and I am a huge fan and avid watcher of the Deegan family. with that being said I feel like this was handled very incorrectly and Tim Cotter should be no where near a rider after a claim. him claiming "oh I thought he was 18" see how well that holds up in court (not saying this is going to court). At the end of the day the kid is going to America as a Canadian rider following the rules and trying to compete the best he can. the rule shouldn't be a rule if you are not allowed to exercise that rule.
@drewjonespdx2 жыл бұрын
More like $100k bike
@NeoMK2 жыл бұрын
Tim Cotter is an AMA referee.
@hoganmims702 жыл бұрын
@@NeoMK no he isn’t
@jackiegray89642 жыл бұрын
Cotter is not a referee
@odinslain26082 жыл бұрын
It just shows you how fake the deegans truly are. If they were real people,they would have had NO PROBLEM. they have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO WASTE ON BIKES. THIS KID HAS NO BIKES NOW BECAUSE OF STAR YAMAHA. #thebullydeegans
@darienwhite242 жыл бұрын
Question, "Are you going to de-fame my family" i dont usually see innocent people who suspect nothing of them or the team saying that..
@ricksmith76592 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@venicebeachsportsnetwork66772 жыл бұрын
I heard the kids had beef in the past and considering he told race officials "I want to make a KZbin video" it seems like a reasonable question
@Thekindclub12 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder how fragile and ‘real’ there fame is in the first place. Seems like an easy egg to crack.
@chrisclifford41092 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This is all that I needed to hear. Brian is a known cheater, so this isn’t surprising
@darienwhite242 жыл бұрын
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 having my bike start a huge PR project I would have let them claim it.. shows good character.. but instead we normalize this entire debacle that it's okay that this kid has no ride for following a rule.. he was essentially bullied out of the rule book it really doesn't help the sport or the big money image it's been portraying the last two decades..
@garymallard46992 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extra coverage....wish you would have told them the kid lost his bikes? that could have been a good way to see the reaction...body language wise....as their stories seemed to be all the same ( AMA/MX SPORTS / BRIAN DEEGAN )... as to how long he was alone in the office... they have had time to get that worked out.... the 2 guys looked nervous talking about this...
@jamespolucha69112 жыл бұрын
This rule is in place to keep amateurs kinda equal, it’s always been the family with the most money in winning, I’ve seen a lot of kids that were so fast they had no competition but money held them back or sometime even got out of racing because there family just couldn’t afford it anymore, they threatened this poor kid for doing this claim is unbelievable, I guess it’s all about money
@devo74282 жыл бұрын
Good to see that even after this 3 part yamaha love fest the story followers still see who the bullies are and the poor kid being muscled
@talkischeap24232 жыл бұрын
Yamaha isn't getting enough heat about this. Or Matt Walker.
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
1) don’t listen to Cooksey 2) Yamaha should have been upset they have every right to be some kid they support went after their top guys and their top bike. If you are a mediocre nobody at any profession or company you do not come out of no where and attack the top earner for that company or profession when you contribute almost nothing. Yamaha absolutely should have told him they will pull his support for this they have a lot invested in Deegan and those bikes no one should blame them for that. They expect return on investment Deegan brings more to the table than this nobody ever will. Life is not equal life is not fair this participation trophy generation needs to learn that.
@gwagenadventure7272 жыл бұрын
@Jon Ruger Rules are the rules if Yamaha and star didn’t bring a big $ factory bike to an amateur race this would have been a nothing burger. To many things not adding up.
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
@@gwagenadventure727 oh shut up the top amateurs have done this since the 80s it’s nothing new people need to stop pretending this sport is for people on a budget. It’s not and never has been if you are a good amateur you will get support if you don’t maybe try another sport don’t cry about it.
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
@@gwagenadventure727 he disrespected his main sponsor if I was them I’d pull all his support. How would you feel if you helped someone out not to have them turn around and try to steal from you?
@theadorebundy45142 жыл бұрын
@@jonruger
@extremedf532 жыл бұрын
Cotter is lying he should not have been involved at all, he should be fired now.
@motostarmx17772 жыл бұрын
he is a glorified used car salesman
@boom90232 жыл бұрын
Should’ve been no discussion nothing. Schofield worked for his money, and paid it. End of story. Brian, star everyone else talking to the kid had no rights. AMA makes rules that they themselves didn’t follow. If star didn’t wanna lose their bike then they shouldn’t have had a factory bike on the line 🤷🏽 rules are rules and the fact they went in on a SEVENTEEN year old is comical.
@thefridaynetwork2 жыл бұрын
👻 According to the legend, some say that the restless soul of Matt Walker still roams the pits of Loretta's to this very day... 👻
@jackiegray89642 жыл бұрын
Brennens dad should’ve put Walker to sleep for talking to his son the way he did
@NorthRiverRidge2 жыл бұрын
This is the reason we don’t trust politics and politicians. They don’t follow the rules they set. This is a big loss for our sport. If the rules were followed without putting any pressure on this kid, he would never have given up the claim. Like it or not, those are the rules, and now the moto world is losing faith in what otherwise always seemed legit on the surface. I think the way this was handled just opened a can of worms.
@terryfonz46032 жыл бұрын
Right and your running AMA rules this is a n AMA race the promoter pays AMA to use their rules! So at the point of AMA claim the promoter gets lost unless he is helping. This guy was pressuring and that’s unacceptable and AMA should issue penalty to this guy and Yamaha and anyone whoStrong armed this kid
@vitalmx2 жыл бұрын
Listen to all the interviews.
@terryfonz46032 жыл бұрын
Look I don’t believe this guy that the engine builder was being belligerent. Look the engine builder as the adult being there during the claim was trying to protect the transaction from being tainted. In other words the engine builder wasn’t acting that way unprovoked! I’ve heard his interview also. And Brennan’s there was indeed pressure coming and as promoter he should have never even allowed a meeting with Brian and Brennan I believe he didn’t realize he was 17 but facilitating that meeting was uncalled for if Brian want to talk to the person go do it but this guy being involved was uncalled for with that meeting!
@zonapainter2 жыл бұрын
@@terryfonz4603 and you know all this because you were there. 🤣
@woodysrockspyro64362 жыл бұрын
No talking is needed. Claim was made.. it should have been honored not talked over.
@terryfonz46032 жыл бұрын
@zoner 🤡 they all admit it I don’t have to be there everyone of their interviews admitted that! The point is a meeting between the claimant and the sponsored riders father is not part of a claim! Especially since it is not their bike!
@dylanpruitt4572 жыл бұрын
Tim cotter says "I don't recall" a few too many times. I like that Michael Lindsay pressed him on Brennan wording when withdrawing the claim.
@jaygaming83792 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is a cluster, but there is a past at which Brennan isn’t speaking on. How he already was calling Haiden a “pussy ass mf” and “danger girl” at south wick because of the line he took. He handled this situation to a t and shouldn’t have took back his claim, BUT he didn’t do it for a KZbin video, he did it because he simply doesn’t like Haiden because in all honesty, Haiden is better than him. It’s a sticky situation, but doing it just because you don’t like someone, kinda weird.
@EXITLlFE2 жыл бұрын
Wtf is the point of this rule if this is what happens when implemented? This is the exact situation a bike claim makes sense. If it was a nobody's bike he would own it. But it's haidens bike which is most likely out of anyone's bike, illegal. This is nuts
@JW-jh7zv2 жыл бұрын
The point of the rule is to keep amateur racing on level playing field. It's to discourage showing up with a $40k bike to race.
@peaceprayer5952 жыл бұрын
@@JW-jh7zv the pros bikes are closer to 100k bro. 40k is a cheap ride no matter what they tell you
@hunterdm342 жыл бұрын
I don't see why people are mad at Brian he did what any father would have done and that's talk to the kid that's taking his sons bike. star clearly didn't want that bike out there but there's nothing they can do about it. its pretty clear that Brenan's sponsor made him pull the claim and then dropped his sponsorship with him after the fact. the only bad guy i see is Brenan's ex sponsor . as for Brenan yeah the rule is there for a reason but that doesn't make it right or wont give you a black eye when it comes to sponsor ships and people wanting to work with you, it goes both ways
@travisgrain8067 Жыл бұрын
It’s not he’s sons bike, end of story. Change the rules if you don’t want this to happen.