R O U N D 6 ｜ Alien Stage

[@VIVINOS]

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[@Pixeldust5]

APOLOGIES…..

[@cyntheziser]

THIS IS SO FOUL

[@sanmenela]

YOU.

[@foxibirdsdumps]

vivinos... im gonna catch you...

[@tordfi]

APOLOGIZE NOW

[@Shadow_Moon007]

Ivan sacrificed everything, even himself, for Till. The fact that Ivan is dressed in white (like Sua) like he's a corpse while Till is dressed in black (like Mizi) like he's going to a funeral is heartbreaking.

[@aikuma_qiuji_anx3341]

and black hair... Sua and Ivan have black hair lmao (im crying of their death)

[@employer_kaveh]

i just realized that in the first round it's also the same, the one who wear white dies, and the one who wear black live but with grieve and regrets probably

[@lyingndying]

How does it feel to be an Orv fan and ALNST fan at the same time?

[@soloyoxdnop565]

​@@lyingndyinges horrible , ser fan del ivantill, satosugu, joongdok (ayudaa)

[@Shadow_Moon007]

@@lyingndying The world is cruel

[@VTEK_ENTERTAIN]

I think what sickens me the most about this is that Ivan didn't even look happy when he was kissing Till, and he died smiling because Till finally acknowledged him

[@SalomSands]

a kiss full of sorrow almost.

[@lindianocean]

@@SalomSands black sorrow 😭

[@neo-gu5wf]

IM FKCING CRYING WAIT

[@bevq2246]

I thought he smiled because he knew for sure he was gonna die at that point and till would be saved, he looked panicked a moment before when he saw till was unresponsive

[@dinorex4105]

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[@achhi101]

The hypocrisy of Ivan for mocking Sua for sacrificing her life for mizi, just for him to do the same

[@OhOhriyo_11]

I knew he would do the same 😭 he said all that cuz he knew well that till only sees mizi, and if he dies, it won't affect till as much as sua did to mizi (is what ivan thinks at least ,in my opinion T*T) cuz mizi actually loves sua

[@pigeonpiupiu]

Where did Ivan say about sua sacrificing herself?

[@strrrbry_tl]

Community post but it's in Korean tho​@@pigeonpiupiu

[@OhOhriyo_11]

@@pigeonpiupiu it's in the community post!

[@Man-uj5di]

@@OhOhriyo_11which one if i may ask

[@Stellaris_Stellaria]

One thing I noticed the very first time I watched this, was that the sound of heartbeat before Till begun to sing, was accelerating rapidly, symbolizing Till's unstable emotions after Mizi's disappearance and after everything he went through in Alien Stage. But when it was Ivan's turn to sing, the heartbeat was steady and calm, as if showing Ivan's firm resolve towards Till, consistent and not waning, showing that Ivan knows what he has to do. And he is confident to sacrifice himself, if it means Till, the 'object of his shallow emotions', can live. Because just like Mizi who makes Till's life meaningful, Till is the one who makes Ivan's life meaningful in the Alien Stage. Death and anything else means nothing to Ivan if it means that 'rebellious boy' he loves could go to the next round.

[@sxmii_dr]

Ok now im crying

[@rairinirin]

You did not need to type this in here

[@plantday4680]

Havnt been this broken hearted since reading husky and his white cat shizun

[@suzue463]

@@plantday4680 bro, same. we will never be able to be happy again after we got introduced to these doomed yaoi

[@dragonpotions5360]

You made me cry with this btw (I'm watching for the first time)

[@clairecook6499]

What’s so heartbreaking about Ivan strangling Till to save him, is the symbol of Ivan taking off Till’s collar that has shown up so many times throughout the series. In their backstory, we see Ivan taking off Till’s restraints on multiple occasions, especially the collar over his mouth. He does it back in Ankat Garden when they make their escape attempt, and he’s shown doing it in the flashback in this episode as well. While the aliens want to stifle Till’s chaotic and rebellious nature, Ivan loves that part about Till, and he wants to free him from his bindings, no matter how loud and violent he can sometimes be. But, when Mitzi disappeared, Till lost his rebellious spirit. As he sings during this round he looks defeated, hopeless, with no fight left to give. Ivan can’t stand for that. He has to help Till get his spirit back, no matter the cost. By Ivan’s final act being strangling Till, what he’s really doing is taking of his collar. He reaches for Till’s neck, for the hundredth time, for the last time, intent, as always, to free Till from the aliens. And when his hands fall away, Till is free -free from the fate that awaited him, and maybe, just maybe, with Ivan’s death, Till can regain his rebellious spirit again.

[@ScaraLoreRambler]

Stop, you’re gonna make me cry

[@sxdnnezz-3390]

stop.

[@Der-Erste-Stern]

I hadn't thought of the parallel between choking and he being constantly the one to remove Till's collar and muzzle. Thank you for the renewed pain, I'll got to sleep crying again

[@suzuyahaise401]

I LOVE THIS OBSERVATION SM ARGGG

[@Marumer0]

But why did Ivan have to die? I hope Till loved Ivan a little bit. I think Ivan was loved by the aliens and that's why he could be saved. If that happens, I hope they will be together.

[@nevernorest8315]

You know shit is going to be fucked up when the simple art style is suddenly more detailed

[@Witches.and.ghosts]

Seriously

[@sovaaar]

emo till 😣

[@GH0STME0WZ-]

fr

[@cheezenayiax]

Tbh i think its qmeng doing the job

[@Sunrei-sama]

Qmeng cooked, she graduated from the sciences of yaoitology together with Vivinos yuritology

[@Adsentas]

Notice how Till's neck doesn't even have marks of choking? That means Ivan was just holding his hands on his neck, not even trying to hurt him... God, I'm crying...

[@o_o.b]

와....😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@rat_5219]

So does that mean that Ivan was faking the whole choking part so he would be disqualified?

[@Orange_Tanger]

@@rat_5219 yes 😭

[@-jay-sam-]

Yeah​@@rat_5219

[@Xytching]

OMGGG TYSM NOW THE TEARS JUST WONT STOPP 😭😭😭😭

[@coldyofficial1135]

this is the only alien stage round that actually made me cry. i’ve analyzed it so many times because it just hurts watching it and i know that’s what makes it so good

[@Gaylanwangji]

Same

[@umarhussein6905]

its not that deeep

[@hxruhizz]

@@umarhussein6905but it is tho

[@MomoMMDs]

Vivinos really said "Your favorite ship gets to kiss, but its the most unsatisfying and uncomfortable one-sided kiss ever and it only happens because one of them wants go out with no regrets."

[@아잉이잉오잉]

😭

[@The_miIk]

Fr. The way the my mouth DROPPED

[@---ro1fc]

She’s out to get us for real, lmao. Killing everyone for fun and ruining the silver linings 😩

[@ilovejinhsimywife]

SOBBING RIGHT NOW😭😭😭

[@erihtea0719]

@JohnThefarmer-ig8um ⁠Listening to a bot won’t bring Ivan back 😭

[@nomuntemuul2808]

Idk if this detail was intentional, but Ivan looks like a groom getting married, and Till looks like he's going to a funeral. Maybe the same could be extended to Mizi and Sua.

[@_mycherie]

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

[@animeismylife6823]

THE HELL I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT FIRST

[@graychuchu]

OH MY GOD

[@leenaa.]

ITS MIZISUA ALL OVER AGAIJ

[@RVUI]

HOLY?? GOOD OBSERVATION THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT ONE OUT

[@graegrape]

I love how much Alien Stage reflects a lot of cheesy TV tropes like the love... circle? Triangle? Where everyone likes everyone but never back thing. But instead of playing it for a joke or something silly, it's written in a way that breaks your heart into a million pieces because the contestants' love is the one thing they got to choose for themselves.

[@ur1c3hu33]

OOF that last bit hit me HARD

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

I literally hate you (this was great thank you for commenting this)

[@nanny_uhh]

the last part hit hard, and you are right, ALL of it is not their choice, their clothing, how they are shown to their fans, their music (only Till got to sing a song he created alone)

[@pigeontoes5421]

More like a love line LOL, Mizisua was mutual but sua is dead, till loves mitzi unrequited, ivan loves till unrequited, and nobody loves Ivan....

[@graegrape]

​@@pigeontoes5421YEAH. Pretty much - Don't forget the additional Luka-Hyuna one-sided pining. (noone loves ivan? the fanbase begs to differ/j)

[@c.asicetea3119]

Love the detail at 4:01 where the rain kind of sound like clapping from the crowd.

[@eduardamelo-qg4pe]

YESS

[@KoiAkane]

It reminds me of Suguru while he was carrying Riko and after while he was taking a shower, the cult follower’s claps turning into rain and the rain turning back into those same claps 😭😭😭

[@AnsOng-e6w]

​@@KoiAkane ivantill and stsg duo is deadly🙏

[@aracel9730]

Ivan basically said: “you can live without me, but I can’t live without you” 😭

[@newbee7753]

nooo now your making me cry again 😭

[@decristal48]

Stoooop 😭😭😭

[@sophialee8678]

😭💔

[@tsukasayugi9065]

whyy 😭😭😭

[@ovillainessart-beginnerart2938]

Aaah crying 😭

[@purpleaether]

so i've been rewatching the rounds and i realized something. in round 5 when mizi starts beating the shit out of luka, the guards come and pull her off of him, wrangle her away, and only after all that just START to point a gun at her head. but because of all that, the resistance had time to come in and save her. so when ivan started doing the same thing, they began shooting him down immediately. because if they didn't, it would give the resistance time to come in and save him, and they don't want that to happen again. that's why none of the guards approached. they would rather kill him quickly than give opportunity for saving 😭

[@Krill_Phil]

I just noticed this too. A really neat but really sad detail...

[@chwrleseyler]

no😭😭 i already cried but this... just hurts man

[@miumiuwony]

it can also be that luka is more well liked than till, and they were ok with till getting roughed up

[@Keijikink]

Thank you I am now going to cry myself to sleep /j

[@shumikass]

I don't think so, in round 1 they kill Sua Instantly. Maybe last time was just a lucky big mistake

[@shaythemoonchild431]

The tragic thing for me was seeing how far Ivan has gone to keep Till safe. He literally disguised himself as a security guard to get Till out of that bar. I can only imagine the other things he’s done. I believe that’s the whole reason why he became the fan favorite. He knew being loved by the aliens would give him more freedom to protect and keep Till alive. As the favorite, he had to go through horrifying things but it was all worth it if it meant Till was still there. Truly, Ivan is the best character for me.

[@prnc96]

THIS

[@nadachan184]

YEAH! Ivan already done so many for Till, just showing how much he loves him 😭 It's break my heart that Till finally look at him in the last moment of his life :')))

[@astrelz6177]

Till is the Mizi to his Till

[@mochiii6291]

FR I LOVE HIM SM

[@hiyonono]

disguised at the bar? i think it was an afterparty and ivan was just there with his own guardian like till was.

[@운좋은비버]

2:05 여기서 틸이 왤케 화를 내나 했더니 미지 화관 만들어 주려 했던걸 이반이 일부러 밟아서 그런거구나 이반은 틸이 미지에게 화관을 선물해주는게 싫어서 일부러 밟은거고..

[@KheeseStiicks]

네, 꽃에 카메라가 설치되어 있거든요.

[@화이트펄쿠키-p8z]

헐​@@KheeseStiicks

[@ガンジェイ0717]

ㄷㄷ

[@paen8547]

I just noticed this but- During his first song Till sang a determined love song, while Ivan sang a sorrowful song. Now Ivan is singing a determined love song, while Till is singing a sorrowful song.

[@shino_shuiro]

STOPPP 😭😭🙏

[@bananajam6393]

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@boulboul4354]

GURLL WHYYY IM SOBBINNGGGG

[@riaawr]

BYEEE 😭😭

[@itzrachei]

😭

[@rosen_venus]

There's something truly sad about how Till tries to push Ivan away when he kisses him, but just goes limp when Ivan starts choking him. For a character that's always seen fighting back, when his best friend seemingly tried to kill him, he just accepted it. I think Till went into this competition with the expectation that he would lose, maybe even hoping he would lose since now the only thing that made life worth it to him (Mizi) was gone. Then, his realization of what Ivan did, the fact that Ivan must've felt for him what he felt towards Mizi - that Till dying would've made life pointless for Ivan...

[@sofiagutierrez7989]

El sol no necesita de la luna para brillar. Sua e Ivan no podrian reponerse de la perdida de sus amigos

[@金獨子]

STOPPP IM GONNA BITE U 😭😭

[@totoro413]

Im wondering if luca will try to provoke till the same way he provoked mizi, since he sees this as a way to secure victory. And i wanna see how till would react to that

[@Editor_zephyr]

@@totoro413 Fr, since Till is not in a good mental state the way Mizi was when the competition. I can only hope Hyuna will save Till too.

[@eltipo4695]

​@@totoro413i don't (fully) think Luka would do that, especially since he seems to be kinda tired of winning. There could even be a chance of him working with the rebellion because of how he acted when he noticed Hyuna helping Mizi on Round 5

[@amber_eys3015]

Something that i realised is how Till says "Let me drown in you" (0:51) to Mizi because he loves and adore Mizi, but she isn't interested in him which makes him crave that love from her even more. He wants to drown in her love but he cant because her love wasnt meant for him, it was meant for Sua. Ivan on the other hand says "I'll drown in you" (2:20) indicating that he can and WILL drown in his love for Till. "Drowning" in this case implies that he'll lose himself the deeper he goes. So this means he'll willingly love Till, even if it means he will lose himself in the process.

[@tarpey3232]

OH YOU ARE VILE FOR POINTING THIS OUT. IM NEVER GONNA KNOW PEACEFUL REST EVER AGAIN AFTER THIS. (/pos thank u for giving me another thing to think about at night)

[@aliceofclover]

Fun fact! (It's not a fun fact I'm on the brink of tears) The Korean word used in "drown" when translated literally can also mean to dye, to color, to infect, or to *taint.* Till's literally singing "Let me be tainted by you," and Ivan's literally singing "Let me taint you,"

[@shina3425]

PELASE STOP IM ALREADY HEART BROKEN AFTER READING OTHER COMMENTS WHY MUST THIS ONE MAKE EM CRY AGAIN

[@dinorex4105]

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[@averiefrncsca]

SHUT THE HELL UPP

[@barfqq01]

Crying because someone said that the erraticness of the guitar in 2:45 is signifying how fast his heart is racing compared to round 7 when till is in his final breaths except his is more "its finally over" while ivan's is "not yet i cant go yet"

[@barfqq01]

Also during the kissing scene his heart has a soothing pace with a sense of desperation which then the guitar starts back up with that same erratic sound at 3:28 and finally ends with silence.

[@Doodle-g7h]

stop making me cry

[@bambe.e]

Everyones saying that Till is singing like he's given up but like can we talk about how Ivan sings? He's confident and determined because he knows what he has to do😭

[@akinmedarda]

And the fact he was winning too.. Gosh

[@lemon.n]

​@@akinmedarda😭😭

[@knightnight6533]

NO CAUSE IT MADE ME FEEL SO LIKE STRESS OUT LIKE WHEN I HEARD TILL SING THE FIRST TIME

[@knightnight6533]

Like this was a major jump from his original song, disobeying in like every conceivable manner like he sang the whole part without letting the other guy sing, he killed the guitar alien all with a smirk and passion on his face. He sang with more passion and intensity in his voice and the majority was in English (I don’t think that’s really apart of it I just find it neat). However now he’s quite the opposite. He is singing like how Alien stage is intended to be sung, the genre and tone of the song is completely different than the previous song. While his voice is still really good it lacks the same spark the original song has since it was a huge shift. I know a lot of people point out how Till dresses like if he was going to a funeral and Ivan to wedding. But I also want to point out how different their wardrobes are from the original songs. In Round 2 till was wearing a white loose t-shirt with [not too] loose pants. He also had no shoes which again I feel was meant to show his rebellious nature. Again his current appearance is the opposite a tucked in? (Could be wrong) black shirt that is now missing any design that the last one had. As well as the tight black pants, it’s more form-fitting like he has decided to con”form” with alien stage ever since mizi disappeared. While it’s obvious that he lost his spark and is going through grief and depression because of it the I like how the a simple black outfit can reflect that. Now on to Ivan’s outfit. The most clear difference between his previous and current outfit is the color, from black to white. However there is more about his outfit is that it was constricted I am unsure on what exactly it is (belt?) however now In round 6 those restrictions are no longer seen on him. His current outfit is (recycling the same thing i said about till) except Ivan’s outfit is less form fitting, looser reflecting that he no has anything else to hide because he already knows he will die (he definitely had this planned out) it’s much asymmetrical and has more flow in comparison to his previous outfit. I absolutely adore how Vivinos designs the characters and their outfits to reflect the state they’re in.

[@Nomnomla]

The pain to realize that ivan sacrifice himself for till so he can live happily bro i cant stop sobbing 😭🙏🏽

[@raaaaaaaaah1112]

When you realise the shine in Ivan's eyes was gone when he was choking and kissing Till, but it came back when he saw Till's score go up and at the end when he knew that Till was gonna live and go to the next round

[@Rayscales6]

I’m gonna cry

[@รชตกระแสสินธ์]

Sobbing

[@WiseAsianGirl]

Stoppp 😭😭😭😭

[@myfictionaluniverse]

All that for Till to not live _past_ the next round-

[@IvanIsAlive1]

​@myfictionaluniverse Fr

[@Kiki-qd4sw]

I think one of the saddest things about this is how when we see Till’s pov Ivan is never in it, but when we see Ivan’s pov Till is EVERYWHERE. Every other person or face is not important like Till is to Ivan, meanwhilr Till doesn’t even SEE Ivan. And he knew, he knew his love wasn’t reciprocated, it’s so clear in his lyrics too 😭😭 I feel like Ivan knew he was going to die the second he turned back to go with Til…. ((I JUST REALIZED THE FIRSY TIME HE ‘SEES’ IVAN IS AFTER HIS NECK IS LET GO AND IVAN LOOKS SO HAPPY RAHHH IM NOT OK))

[@chuuwuyal2272]

THIS. UNTIL THE END TILL ONLY SEES MIZI. I'm devastated

[@Kiki-qd4sw]

@@chuuwuyal2272we are so not ok lets all hold hands in alien stage heaven

[@orca3432]

WAHHHHH

[@pulped69dago91]

he finally saw him but it's too late rip

[@aizeace]

@@pulped69dago91STOP DONT SAY THIS MY HEART😭😭😭

[@Raven_curry]

3:22 little goodnight kiss fr

[@STAR_yuhhh]

NOOO WHY AM I LAUGHING 😭😭

[@BellUH-1]

Ivan is the true Gigachad of the story, he got what he wanted (made Till aware of his feelings) and sacrificed himself in order to protect who he loved, his black sorrow.

[@mizisuamyuniverse]

feeling kinda a little too dead inside atm after watching but ngl this comment made me actually chuckle & feel a bit better especially the "his black sorrow" at the end lol like ah so true, you shall be forever slay icon Ivan, our King (doomed) Yaoi the third 🤧😭🖤

[@nanny_uhh]

​@@mizisuamyuniverse 😂 king of doomed bl

[@lacedups]

YUPPP HES THE GOAT

[@emilieseng7478]

For real😢😢😢

[@leepiclarz]

he's my favorite character in this

[@HeavenBarnhard]

Love how the first couple of kisses Ivan gives to till are aggressive and the last one is a sweet little kiss.

[@Meowzers_3]

I think it’s to make the guards think that he’s being super aggressive to be sacrificed and the last little kiss is like a confession and goodbye at the same time🤷‍♂️

[@kokor7804]

@@Meowzers_3DAAAAAMN.

[@Mentalyanna]

@@Meowzers_3ain’t no way stop making me cry rn

[@Biologicaly_reo]

SHUT UP UR MAKING ME CRYY

[@Beautifully_Horny]

​@@Meowzers_3 STOOOP I DON'T WANNA CRY BRO

[@Kikopoke]

It's the "you wont realize how much they truly loved you til it's too late" trope that breaks me :( PLEASE LET HIM MIRACULOUSLY BE ALIVE BRUH I CANT TAKE IT

[@tellmewhy7733]

Notice how Ivan's body is shown we might still have hope. Sua's body wasn't shown in her and Mizi's round, so she's dead asf (let me cope i am coping im nkt entirely really sure if ivan will miraculously come out from his grave, BUT LET ME COPE)

[@TinTeaKettle]

Being delulu is sometimes not the solulu guys 😭

[@l3unnyo]

ONG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHY SO SAD😭🙏

[@katsune1830]

"you wont realized how they truly loved you,Till its too late."

[@yukilovescakes]

It would be such a waste if a good character were killed off just like that. There's still a chance that he'll live; just trust 😭

[@mangxoo]

i think the reason till closed his eyes when ivan started 'choking' him wasnt because he was actually being choked, but i think its because he lost all hipe of living. since we already know till most likely loves mizi, finding out she went missing wouldve been dreadful for him. so when ivan grabbed his neck, even though he wasnt actually being strangled he lost all hope and thought he was gonna die. I think thats also probably why he looked shocked when ivan let go of his neck and got shot, as he was prepared to die himself, not for ivan to die!!!!!!!!

[@Echoetic]

I could write a whole essay about how beautiful and morbid “TILL WIN” being reflected in Ivan’s blood is.

[@anotherstranger1273]

theres a lyric in Black Sorrow about a pool of blood IM CRYING THE FORSHADOWING

[@Echoetic]

@@anotherstranger1273 OMG I saw that too, this series is gonna be the death of me ;-;

[@NevaRthelesser]

MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS MORBID???

[@Frosterabyte]

I want this on my desk first thing tomorrow morning

[@lalaloveshiluu]

@anotherstranger1273 Also Everytime the lyrics "end of this story" appear it all shows Till in the scene and in both of those times that line appeared, the line that comes next fits well with Ivans "death"

[@idris8190]

Whoever mentioned that the light returned in Ivan’s eyes after he knew for sure that he succeeded COUNT YOUR DAYS

[@xcarnielx5249]

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABT THIS I HATE YOU SM IM IN YOUR WALLS😡😭💔💔😭

[@hanjisung_ie]

I just checked after reading your comment. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW 😭😭😭

[@pazuz.u_soccer0419]

I BATE YOU SO MCUH

[@V1atrixxi3]

NO I LITERALLY JUST STOPPED CRYING WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS

[@V1atrixxi3]

I REWATCHED IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT I HATE YOU SO MUCH😭😭

[@apclypse]

The fact that Ivan only smiles at the end once he knows Till is safe 😭 He doesn’t smile while kissing the person he loves but only after he’s sure Till would live 🥹 I am not okay

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Can I tell you about my Oc for Alien Stage? This idea, kinda has been done before. Especially with the original Macross Anime. But hear me out though . What if the male character I'm making who loves Ivan back , is half Alien and half human . But he was exiled from society . I know this is a mess but it's a draft idea so far . We haven't seen half human, half alien characters in Alien Stage. And I think it would be interesting. I haven't decided how Ivan and my Oc will meet yet. But I want Ivan to have a guy who loves him too. I think Ivan will teach my Oc what it means to be human . I was a bit inspired by the original Macross Anime and it's movie Do You Remember Love? And Gunslinger Girl / Violet Evergarden for making my Oc. I named him Noah . What do you think? 👀

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Also I'm very much coping right now so forgive me of my crazy ideas. I really hope Ivan is alive.

[@ys-zw1vv]

이 해석도 진짜 좋다… 마지막에 웃는게 사랑하는 사람이 살아있을거라고 확신을 가질 수 있어서였구나 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[@sofiassalas3759]

No lo ví de esa forma, ahora procederé a llorar más 🥲

[@dinorex4105]

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[@ww-jx5sk]

3:54 에 이번 피에 비친 till win부분이 진짜 미쳤음 till에 un을 더해서 해석하면 이길때까지 라는 뜻이 되는데 이게 이반이 틸을 위해서 틸이 이길때까지 자신을 희생할수있다는 뜻이라고 생각하면 눈물 광광임

[@ella_0929]

i noticed that during till’s last line before the kiss, he’s actually not singing (2:58), meaning he was purposefully trying to lose, and when ivan noticed this he made sure till would win by acting “aggressively” on stage 🥲

[@onigiri8125]

You know, if you compared Ivan's performance in black swan to here, Ivan sang less emotionally here. What I theorised was that the more emotions you put in your singing, the higher points you will get. Cause if you were to hear closely when till was singing, when he thought of sua his voice got raspier. Ivan's voice was similarly like that in black Swan when he started thinking of till. Ivan wanted to throw the entire performance all along by singing more monotonously. Then at the end, till gave up, like what you pointed out. Ivan doubled down and did the choking act, but probably kissed him first because fuck it all right?

[@onigiri8125]

I am crying my ass out 😭

[@DELETLO]

@@onigiri8125 Black swan??? Sua??? Bro what au of alnst are you watching

[@OneveryonessoulsTillisalive]

​@@onigiri8125 the kiss also probably seemed like Ivan suffocating Till if they didn't know human gestures 🥲

[@Ilikesharks732]

@@onigiri8125realest thing ever

[@mikalzhe]

IVANTILL KISS AT WHAT COST 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@AnArtsyAlicat]

EVERYTHING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@leenaa.]

MY SANITY

[@BallZackKisser]

"YAYYYYYY--OH JESUS CHRIST IVAN NOOO😭"

[@shunnyday_.]

IM GOING TO SOB FOR AGES

[@Miloisrllycool]

MY METAL STATE.

[@Snowflake0_0.]

The fact that he looked at the score machine to make sure Till's points would be more than his and then kissed him one last time MAKES IT EVEN MORE HEARTBREAKING LIKE WHY DONT YOU JUST STAB ME IN THE HEART INSTEAD OF KILLING ME LIKE THIS 😭

[@malik_h_]

And the relief on his face when he knew till would win-

[@crispicheese]

AKUTAGAWA PFP SPOTTED

[@1real_human1]

STOPP

[@FatimaMohammed-z8f]

I hate this

[@Lalectorasecreta]

😭 pienso lo mismo 😢

[@Aika_Saihara]

No matter how many times I see it, IvanTill always hurts, the love Ivan has for Till enough to sacrifice himself for him is so heartbreaking

[@Shadow-si2sk]

the fact that in the first round Mizi wore a black dress and Sua a white dress and in the sixth round Till wears a black outfit and Ivan wears a white outfit represents that, Ivan and Sua died in peace for the person they loved while Till and Mizi they will mourn their sacrifice...

[@nobody0670]

STAWP😭😭😭 MY HEART CANT ANYMORE. WHY DID I HAVE TO SEE THIS 😭😭

[@Meedens]

ACTUALLY ABOUT TO BREAK DOWN IN TEARS. AGAIN.

[@leahblevinokimba2120]

Why am I still scrolling through these comments 😭

[@SomethinPeachyPeach]

WHAT A GOOD FUCKING READDDDD WOW THATS WILD🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@shinyy_mineyy]

IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE PAIRS 😭😭😭

[@Nobody-ic2nj]

Can we talk about how Till's final score is 89 and in Round 3, when Ivan wasn't self-sabotaging, his was 90? One point difference. Again. The parallels to Mizi and Sua are endless. I'm so tired Vivinos, what about my mental health? Huh? I've got exams coming up and all I can think of is these two little bastards. I miss you so much Ivan.

[@악과잉]

😢😢😢

[@krihnolte]

SAME..

[@glsh-6786]

I have my final exams and MAN I WANNA *** DIEEEE

[@i_heart_jesus-l1v]

Good luck on your exams y’all

[@lavenderq2106]

SAME😭

[@Betonryn]

It’s the way that at the end, after the painfully one sided kiss and the “choking” (which even if till wasn’t actually being choked it’s still painful to have someone grab your neck like that) Ivan gives one last small, gentle kiss knowing it’s the last thing he’ll ever do right before he dies

[@Betonryn]

Ive rewatched this too many times

[@cina2218]

@@Betonryn literally me too im so sad augh

[@PatientSqueaky]

I was waiting to see if anyone else saw it! Dude I swear PLEASE let Sua and Ivan be alive or else I swear on my life I will commit arson

[@Betonryn]

@@PatientSqueaky I aspire for your level of delusionality 😭 I don’t think they making it outta this one all we can do is hope that Mizi doesn’t get caught and that round 7 doesn’t have a death

[@LIANARAMIREZ-tc8cx]

@@PatientSqueaky FOR REAL

[@TallulabelSingsALittleBit]

i will die on the hill that ivan forced the kiss on till because he knew he wouldnt get to say goodbye properly and till was frozen and kept trying to push ivan to sing so that he may live

[@STAR_yuhhh]

He did aggressive kisses first to make the guards kill him, the last little kiss was for Till, both a confession and a goodbye 😢😭

[@drows.y]

He wasn't choking him since there were no marks visibly left. Ivan was trying to save Till by doing that. I'm crying..

[@TheLawlessRogue]

WHHUSBUHS CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS FOR ME? PLS, IM A LITTLE BIT SLOW

[@Kai_4951]

@@TheLawlessRogue People are theorizing that Ivan's doing a special type of chokehold where he's holding Till's neck from the sides instead of the front so that makes it seem like he's choking Till without actually hurting him. And he did all that to guarantee Till's victory.

[@Lorelei_Podfics]

Si, estoy segura de que Ivan noto que Till iba a perder y lo asfixio para salvarlo, por eso las balas eran dociles, porque eran de advertencia para que parara 😭

[@BranZart-o3u]

​@@TheLawlessRogue he was doing it so his score would go down and then Till would win

[@ultimatesimp9963]

Till’s score was already higher than his though?

[@RB_kun40567]

The Fact that Ivan was born on 14 Feb (velentine's day) yet was remained deprived of love.

[@villager96]

That’s the day he was adopted I believe, not his real birthday

[@RB_kun40567]

​​@@villager96 can't confirm it as it's not mentioned there that if it's his adoption date or birth date. Still can be consider as bday. *Edit* : it's confirmed it's his birthday the lastest community poll post about character profile says "birthday: 0214".

[@villager96]

@@RB_kun40567 maybe he hates that date because it’s the day he was adopted by ugly aliens 🥶

[@RB_kun40567]

@@villager96 could be

[@villager96]

@@RB_kun40567 why would you edit your comment though? Didn’t you say something like 'we can still consider it to be his birthday'? And no, when they were tweeting about the birthdays of the characters, everyone had birthday besides the date except him, who had *adoption* day instead. They never said what his birthday was, probably because it’s supposed to be unknown.

[@misspuffin8854]

I know people keep saying we don't see any trace of Ivan in Till's eyes until it was already too late, but I think it's more tragic to point out that we do see Till 'see' Ivan during his section. When they were kids, when Ivan had no light in his eyes. So, I think it'a more appropriate to say that the end was more like the first time Till ever saw the light in Ivan's eyes and been able realize that that light had always been for him.

[@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164]

i have nothing to say this comment made me weep 😭

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

I am not mentally stable enough for this (thank you for the analysis)

[@vanyzvat]

STOP IT .

[@heartz4orv]

You’re just making my pain worse, oh gosh

[@rainmellow14]

Stop, please stoppp making me cry

[@PLLI_2]

진짜..이반은 정말 에일리언스테이지에서 가장 안타까운 인물이다... 이반은 단순히 사랑에 집착하는 것이 아니였는데, 제대로 된 사랑을 기회조차 가지지도 못한게 정말.. 그런 이반을 사랑하는 사람이 없는것도 슬퍼 죽겠음. 나 이거 볼때마다 몇번이나 우는거야..

[@freshpresso9436]

I find Till's development in this clip very interesting. You can see here that he's given up. He is the first to stop singing, he barely resists Ivan during the kiss. It's such a stark contrast to the first clip. Till from the past could put up a fight, but he doesn't now. Till is so devastated. On the cotrust, seeing Ivan's eagerness to fight for every bit of attention from Till, and his immense strength for self-sacrifice really breaks my heart.

[@That0neStay]

this.

[@CyberWarezz05]

Yeah, and he's like that because Mizi disappeared. In the first clip she was almost next to him and basically the song was dedicated to her. Now, with her missing, he feels like he has nothing to lose anymore and I find this pretty interesting since we know that Mizi loved Sua and showed no interest in Till. He's so in love with her and devoted it hurts...

[@yunnish]

even in the acrylic standee merch, till isn't looking at ivan, but ivan is looking at till...

[@vanyzvat]

Stop im tired of crying 😭😭

[@tn_otaku1702]

This is breaking me 😿

[@jaegaya4282]

PLEASE SHUT IT I WANT TO MOVE ONN

[@suntailu88]

BRO I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I almost started crying again

[@Unoosu3444]

Dude enough 😭 I can't

[@tiffanykay6060]

I didn't even notice that Til stopped singing until I listened to the official video from Studio LICO. In this video you can hear him sing in the audio but if you watch his lips he stopped. That's why Ivan acted when he did, otherwise Til would have lost then and there.

[@mikameow1856]

STOP THIS, I CANT TAKE ANYMORE! I’ve cried way too much bc of them already 😭

[@eshal1924]

AAAHH WAIT YOURE RIGHT I DIDNT EVEN CATCH THAT…... oh im so sick of *course* he stepped in then

[@linhfphung7867]

I had to rewatch to catch it!

[@escolastica2926]

Although in this case it's probably like that, in previous rounds it also seems to be that voice ≠ animation

[@tiffanykay6060]

@@escolastica2926 also because the song is cut short here. The Studio LICO version has another couple of verses that they didn’t get to cause Til stopped.

[@n_ame637]

아 진짜 이건 아니잖아... 진짜 과장 하나도 안 하고 이반 생각할 때마다 눈물 나옴...ㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠ 제발 행복하게 살아줘...

[@colfing_]

As the saying goes “to be loved is to be seen” IVAN was never seen by Till in his memory flashbacks☹️ but Till was everywhere in IVAN’s memories 😭

[@cloudi3kyovo]

WHY DID YOU MAKE ME THINK ABOUT THIS STOP

[@roka745]

STOP Now I'm crying again 😭😭😭

[@xivering]

ongoing traffic here i come 😹😹😹

[@bbinfolder]

WHY R U DOING THIS

[@ProfessionalPasta]

Ivan is the only character not seen in aneyone memory . While every character had someone they considered thear god and their beloved , Ivan is the only unloved mf . Btw does aneyone know how to tie an rope?

[@1987_wav]

Ok but nobody talking about Till’s vocals???????? He had already shown a more soft vocal in Clematis but THIS 😭 he sounds so tired and broken Edit: Also the fact that Ivan sounds so composed in comparison to Black sorrow where he lowkey snapped at the end, He was so sure of what he was about to do, bro I cannot with this Both voice actors were on a mission to DESTROY us

[@irazzx._1312]

Hearing Till not singing violently and more to soft voice is just so..🥹 bit to add that Till look really dead in his eyes,he really had enough of this things(he even accept ivan choked him and not even fights back😭)

[@Niko-uc2nq]

Especially at 2:48 I keep listening to it on loop it’s really a change from the past round

[@halcyon.x]

right!! i love akugetsu’s voice so much

[@1987_wav]

@@irazzx._1312FR, ngl for a second there I really though that Ivan was going to make both of them die together

[@irazzx._1312]

@@1987_wav THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO!💀

[@holdinonion]

At 3:46 Ivan's smile basically said ''You finally looked at me'' IM CRYING

[@chowfawn3]

im gonna cry 😭🙁

[@밥념]

OMG

[@Kiro_printer]

IM LITTERALLY PUJCHING THE WALL

[@lazypotato582]

UR NOT INVITED TO MY IVANTILL BIRTHDAY PARTY

[@minionsun31]

Y si, ayyy lloro 😭😭😭

[@unknownhermit5897]

Something I noticed about Ivan is that I feel like, whenever Till looked like he was feeling down or looked like he was on the verge of giving up, Ivan would do things to purposefully grate on tills nerve in order to get him to fight. I think he did that because he fell in love with Till and his fighting spirit and never wanted to see it die out. I feel like it's also part of the reason why he kissed Till during the competition as well. Because of Mizi being gone, he looked like he was on the verge of giving up and Ivan didn't want that. Granted I'm just speculating, but it feels like a common theme.

[@icy4636]

wow, i agree! just noticed that. maybe he had mutipple plans an intentions behind the kiss and strangling. making sure he would get disqualified, trying to make till mad and keep fighting..

[@Tartaglitwo]

You make me sick I want to cry

[@swaggooo9638]

wait i have question why did ivan choke till even tho till got a higher score than ivan

[@unknownhermit5897]

@@swaggooo9638 I personally feel like it was, again, in part to incentivse Till to fight back like he always did. Possibly a wrong interpretation, but that's my perspective. I also know it's quite likely he wanted the score to stay the same so that he would be the one killed.

[@토야-x6q]

Ivan died for Till..😢

[@erikaperez8665]

What I noticed, what I understood and how I interpreted this. 1.- In the first seconds of this round we hear the beatings of a heart while we watch different moments of Tills life and the experiments that he has endured, almost like he is watching his life pass in front of his eyes. He expects to die at the end of this round and when his actual face is revealed it shows how everything he has gone through is finally taking a toll on him (of course this happens after his reason to live is no where to be found, without Mizi he doesn’t see a reason to move forward). 2.- When he starts singing and the picture behind him shows we can notice the differences between his personality now and how it was back when mizi was “alive”, he is clearly boring the audience as they all look at him with an unimpressed gaze (also, he is competing against a fan favorite). And the phrase “ I don’t want to let you go” makes reference to mizi. Every single line he sings and almost every memory makes reference to her and to her death, Till genuinely thinks he is dead without her. 3.-Then we get the first and only memory of Ivan. From Till’s perspective we get that both of them got into a fight when they were kids and the gaze that Ivan used to look at Till is rather…. Sadistic Unbothered?. I think this is the perception that Till has of Ivan, he isn’t able to read him and therefore has always thought Ivan was annoying him for the fun of it. This scene shifts to a memory of Ivan, as he finds Till knocked out in the karaoke bar. 4.- It’s clear to see the parallel between both memories, the only thing that makes a difference is the way that Ivan looks at Till, his eyes are sparkling, as he is looking at his beloved. 5.- This parallel between scenes shows us that Till doesn’t actually know about Ivan’s feeling for him and that he has always interpreted them as hatred or dismissive, in the other hand, Ivan actually looks at Till lovingly in every memory of himself, he even has the permission to take of the collar of Till. (I don’t think every human can take off the collar of everyone else, but Ivan CAN. This makes me wonder if he is the one who usually saves till and takes care of him, to the point that the guardians have ALLOWED him to do so). 6.-Ivan lyrics also makes reference to Till in every moment. “Even if your cold words carve scars beneath my eyes…” this clearly makes reference to the way Till treats Ivan (which I assume is not pleasant, as Till is almost unaware of his existence). For example: In a community post we see Till complaining about Ivan wishing he would go away, he thinks that Ivan’s presence is making Mizi go away. Ivan just states that Mizi never plays with him, the one that does so is Ivan. 7.- Is almost as if Mizi takes the place of Ivan in every memory of Till, that’s the level of obsession Till has of Mizi. 8.- I wouldn’t be surprised if Ivan was constantly devastated from the things Tills says. This lack of acknowledgement forces Ivan to do drastic things like getting in a physical fight with Till and sadly this is the ONLY memory Till has of Ivan (paragraph 3) so this drastic measures actually work. 9.- The next scene reflects what actually Ivan wants to be noticed, the looks of affection he gives, the gentleness. Nonetheless, the only thing that gets a reacting from Till are the things Ivan doesn’t like (dramatic gestures). And I think Ivan doesn’t really like the grand gestures because of his judgment of Sua and her decision to die for Mizi. (The ultimate sacrifice just for the sake of being remembered). 10.- I want to make another point, in round 3 we can see a flash back of a red flower crown flying past Ivan and Till going after it. I think what happened is that Mizi made this flower crown for Sua, the flower crown flew away and till wanted to get it back for Mizi (who wanted it for Sua) Mizi and Till go into the home of an alien flower (also shown in the memories) and the flower eats this flower crown, making Till try and fight with the alien plant to get it back for Mizi, Till ends up getting hurt and Ivan just watches from the back. (This is what I can deduce with round 3 flashbacks). In this round we see another flashback of that same day (maybe) where Ivan is watching the plant form the back and one where he is touching its teeth, I think either Ivan calmed down the plant or he managed to get the flower crown from its mouth without getting hurt, whatever happened it culminated on Ivan getting Tills wound treated (Mizi probably fled the scene or trusted Ivan to take care of Tills, as they were close friends even if Tills doesn’t seem to recall that). 11.- Then Ivan is seen caressing Tills wounded face in a hospital and finally Tills running away from their attempted escape. This is even more devastating as we can now interpret their escape as Ivan’s way of saving Till for the millionth time, expecting to be saved at the same time, expecting Till to be grateful and running away with him because maybe, just maybe, Till will care enough about both of them to move forward and finally acknowledge the sacrifices Ivan constantly makes for him, but alas, Till runs away and decides their fate. 12.- We see a glimpse of real life Till being depressed as Ivan pours his heart out in the chorus. “In your gaze where I’m seen…” he doesn’t even look at Ivan in the memories nor in real life. Till cannot see the suffering in Ivan, and Ivan just sees the suffering of Till. Ivan was never seen, every glimpse of his memory he longs for the gaze of Till, but he never acquires it. 13.- “Face to face we dance…” Ivan keeps looking at Till, trying to make it about them. “With our story…” Till looks in front of him thinking about Mizi. He stops singing and Ivan directly starts his plan. Even when he KNOWS Ivan is heading towards him, Till is not bothered to look at him. 3:04. Until he has to. 14.- And for the first time the roles change, The one with sparking eyes is Till and Ivan just looks at him without anything. The first kiss they shared and Till is still unable to read Ivan. For him, this came out of nowhere 3:15. His surprise changes to alert when Ivan grabs him by the throat. Ivan isn’t even hurting him. 15.- Ivan is concerned for the lack of resistance that Till shows, Ivan has fell in love with the resilience and defiance of Tills personality and now it’s nowhere to be found. The numbers change and Ivan’s plan works, he starts being killed for the “aggression” he is committing. Even when he is dying, till is not looking at him. Finally he lets go, as he ensures his loved one will survive. And as he falls his last picture is Till finally looking at him. Ivan smiles as a last goodbye, the smile is enough to make Till understand everything he hadn’t noticed before. There is no people, no Mizi, no aliens, no cameras and no microphones. It’s only Ivan, as the spotlight focuses on them, Till realizes he has lost the only thing that was constant, the reason he has actually managed to survive this long. Meanwhile, Ivan is now the thing he despised, he has done this last grand gesture to make Till look at him (paragraph 9). He has died in what he longed all along. Maybe it was never meant to be. Edit: OMG GUYS YOU ARE SO NICE.

[@proudtiger2538]

YOU CAN COOK ✍️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

[@ILLBEWAITING-f3b]

You explained everything so well, thank youu 😭

[@ca-miura8509]

niceee

[@metallickandy]

😭

[@mina_moon5687]

You explained it so perfectly, no words. 🙏❤️

[@myst1558]

you can really hear it in their voices, till’s voice is trembling and full of raw emotion and desperation, but ivan’s is steady, calm, determined. like he knows what he has to do. IM CRYING

[@sy-mp6ip]

your friendly reminder you currently have 1.6k likes

[@Muichiro-Tokitolover669]

I am literally crying just watching Till sing in the beginning.

[@user-co7ip5it6w]

틸 점수높은거 확인하고 다정하게 키스하는거 미쳤나. 그때까지도 틸은 당연히 자기가 질 줄 알고 있었겠지. 이반 팬들이 압도적으로 많으니까. 그래서 목이 졸리는 순간까지도 자기가 진 줄 알고 죽을 준비하는데 틸 눈치못채게 이반은 총 맞으면서도 놔주질 않았고 나중에 틸이 이반 쓰러진 거 보고 상황파악하는게 맴찢임. 마지막 순간에서야 틸은 이반의 수 많은 배려 중 하나를 알아챘겠지..쓰발 너무 슬퍼...

[@gh1234_]

ㅠㅠ해석 너무 슬퍼요ㅠ

[@현채빈-f3j]

ㅠㅠ

[@this_is_sangcom]

가슴이 오억오천갈래로 찢어져~~~

[@user-lb9ff8hi8i]

​@@this_is_sangcom오조오억 갈래로 찢어져 ㅠㅠ

[@ozszs]

제발요 이게 자해지 씨발... 오열중...

[@Yoirea]

That small and tender kiss at 3:23 is such a painful yet beautiful detail. It feels like a last declaration of pure love, a goodbye and confession at the same time. I teared up at that moment.

[@Alpz_m__]

I notice too! 😭

[@crowquettic]

if i've counted properly , it looks like ivan gave till 3 kisses ?

[@zuki_gnj]

​@@crowquettic5 times actually- 3:07 3:11 3:14 3:19 (I'm assuming that this is a kiss-) 3:23

[@crowquettic]

@@zuki_gnj AAA THANK YOU !! i see what you mean , thank you random protagonist !

[@zuki_gnj]

@@crowquettic I've watched this scene too much, I guess that's why I noticed immediately😭. Anyway you're welcome fellow Ivantill shipper! (I'm assuming you're one🙏)

[@mx-flohwalzer9104]

it’s the fact that ivan holds on until the last bullet hits that makes me go crazy… he knew that if he let go on the first bullet, the aliens would have just saved him. so he kept pushing until the point of no return…and that’s why when the final killing bullet hits he smiles immediately before letting go…

[@Yoon-n8f]

ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ

[@Meisimp]

Im cryingg😭😭😭

[@PremiumCA]

ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ😢😢😢😢 i am crying...

[@Paaanchiko]

Don't do this to me

[@bombom1157]

oooooooooooooooo😦😦😦😦😦😭

[@ValeMiley9]

do you think in his last seconds, when he started coughing up blood, ivan thought: yes, this is enough. i can let go now

[@Gaylanwangji]

I think he said something like, "Wow, he finally looked at me." Or something similar

[@ValeMiley9]

@@Gaylanwangji yeah, when till opens his eyes as he falls, he probably thought something like that, but that moment is right before that - when ivan's hold on his neck slighlty tightens. like "okay, he is safe, i did enough" and then till looks at him and ivan goes like "oh he is looking at me" and i cry because i'm feeling sick in the heart x.x

[@tremendo_simp]

THE LITTLE SMOOCH IVAN GIVE TO TILL BEFORE DIYING AS A FREAKIN FAREWELL TO THEN START "CHOKING" HIM SO HIS OWN POINTS DOWN AND ALSO HIS BELOVED AND FRIEND DOESN'T SEE HIM BE SHOT TO DEATH JUST BREAKS MY SOUL 😭😭

[@akinmedarda]

IKRRR I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT BCUZ IM LIKE I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE

[@Everlasting_Peace1]

He wasn't even choking him because there were no marks on Till's neck 😭 He made it look like he was choking him so he'd get eliminated.

[@akinmedarda]

@@Everlasting_Peace1 WOOW I DIDNT NOTICE THAT

[@Hurururur]

I AM GONE.

[@ILOVE_ME-STAR]

FR I CRY

[@Angel...............]

ok but how the second kiss feels much more genuine. Like after he checks the scores he gives him a short gentle one that feels both like a reassurance and a goodbye. Since Ivan tends to always look out for him in the past I guess thats how his genuine emotions shows up more. And that's when Till looks calm, really sees him and fully embrace him and the situation.

[@strawberry_jelly262]

IKR that’s exactly what I was thinking bc ofc the first kiss was a shock to till but the second time is exactly how you describe it

[@KaLa1865_]

3:34 I can’t help but feel that Ivan is not just making sure that they keep shooting him, but his expression is just desperation to have Till look at him one last time.

[@ikimiyu]

☹️

[@vdeo5547]

He got what he wanted…at the very end….

[@axolotlanarchy5958]

honestly, I bet a lot of thoughts were running through his head there in just that one frame. ivan fell in love with till for his rebellious spirit, and now he’s watching him just give up without a fight. and that’s after he DID fight when ivan was kissing him. till would literally rather die than kiss him back. god this whole mv is heartbreaking

[@VvrsteelUndersilk]

No🫸😭🫷

[@Milk_Is_Me]

i just noticed that at 3:41 Ivan smiles. HE LOVED TILL HOW COULD YOU DO THIS

[@Alexell_Tata]

Notice how starting from 2:54 of the vid, Ivan's eye lack those glint or white stuff on his eye, they only came back when, FIRST, when he was looking at the scores. Then SECOND, when he was shot for the last time. Notice how he lacked those glint while kissing Till. It's as if he wanted Till to hate him even more, so that the ending can be less painful. Notice how, even with the cold demeanor and forcing Till, at the end, he was able to be relieved that the person he loves most got to live. That even then, Ivan managed to show who he really is to Till before dying. Just like in Black Sorrow, Ivan's mask broke because of Till, and in the end, Ivan's end, it was still Till who broke that mask of his. Only Till.

[@joymoua6651]

STOP YOU’RE MAKING ME SOB

[@KrisninaArwenSanPablo-ip2sj]

im sure you also suffered typing this comment as much as i have suffered and cried soooo much reading this. bet it was like : 'notice...*sobsobsob* how even, *cries*'

[@msk-qp6fn]

It felt a lot like ivan was trying to make till hate him even more so till would remember him, kinda like how it was hinted that sua originally was going to sacrifice herself for mizi to save mizi and also so mizi would remember her

[@bombom1157]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

​@@msk-qp6fn hits hard when you remember the community post where Ivan talks to Sua about being selfish and sacrificing herself because Ivan sAYS to her "you'll be a traumatic experience to Mizi" he knows Till doesn't love him, nor even look at him even when Mizi isn't around, but he still plays up his cold persona so Till doesn't pity Ivan when he dies- which knows he will. Ivan doesn't want any good memories attached to him in Till's mind so that Till can continue fighting and live on with no heartbreak.

[@m.0186]

IVAN SMILED AT THE END WHEN HE REALIZED HE WAS DYING AND THAT MEANT TILL WOULD LIVE AND THAT ENOUGH MADE HIM HAPPY EVEN WHILE DYING I AM IN SHAMBLES edit: guys my notifs please, i know what happens next i'm still in recovery ok....... 😭

[@pigeonpiupiu]

WAIT OMG I JUST REALISED THAT HE'S HAPPY BECAUSE HE'S GONNA DIE INSTEAD OF TILL OMG IMMA CRY IN CORNER

[@basileaf...]

STOP IT I'M ALREADY CRYING HARD ENOUGH

[@annabellthedoll9953]

I'm literally shaking I'm not okay.

[@annabellthedoll9953]

​@@pigeonpiupiu I'm crying in my bathroom.

[@lizzyrank5405]

I think it's also because for once Till looked at Ivan in the eyes. It's sad though that in his last moments Ivan is finally in Tills eyeline, yet would never have the same impact as Mizi.

[@xxx-xh8xr]

rip ivan, you would have loved tills outfit in r7

[@Gotchaluv]

LMAOO REALL

[@kaika1._]

ABSOLUTELY REAL

[@junecapinpin]

REALLL LMAOO

[@Zahaveron]

NO BC HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS TO R7 LUCAS ROUNDS ARE ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL

[@briskaadet]

Vivi knew he would get too 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂

[@ilovekasa]

it’s been 8 months. ivan is alive. ivan is alive. ivan is alive. ivan is alive.

[@Emo_Boychek]

Oh. Till is alive.. Till is alive.. 😭

[@aidenskk]

ivantill are alive and married happily trust

[@crunchyfam4178]

Ofc!!! They're just acting 😊

[@redfoxakame]

"I love you. Live." That's all I heard from Ivan in the end.

[@TinaShmina]

Saw a comment somewhere saying Till can live without Ivan but Ivan can’t without Till and it broke me (T n T)

[@Saya-ng1sl]

“Thank you for being a victim to my shallow emotions”

[@Arkleio]

@@Saya-ng1sl is this perhaps a quote from somewhere?

[@Lulu_0809]

@@Arkleioit’s from a comic in Ivan’s perspective. You can find it on the official alien twt account or on this channel’s community tab. It was posted about 2-3 months ago the title is “confession” with the first photo being the back of Sua. Hope that helps! (Also sorry if I sent this twice, KZbin was acting up for me)

[@Arkleio]

@@Lulu_0809 thank you so much!

[@Editor_zephyr]

IVAN MADE HIMSELF LOSE, LOSING HIS OWN SINGING TIME JSUT TO KISS TILL ONE LAST TIME.

[@fcxfchfchgchdxrtxtucjy4055]

you say one last time like they’ve kissed before THIS IS THEIR FIRST AND LAST KISS IM GOING TO THROW UP

[@LostCloverIntheWood]

WE BELIEVE IN IVAN SURVIVING

[@chivalrie]

STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES OUT😭😭

[@leroyjenkins1249]

LUCKILY! To be honest: no matter the tragedy, forced kisses are s* assault. Made me hurl to watch it. He is lucky it had a point

[@yjohnson3678]

@@leroyjenkins1249I mean granted with the situation they’re in I don’t think their morality can compare to us on that lvl. They were raised by aliens that saw them as literal pets. Tho I get what you mean.

[@margarettshinearevalo7069]

i'd just like to point out the fact that ivan fell in love with till because of his rebellious attitude and his spirit, when he fought against that monster dog thing when he they were still kids at the episode for round three. and the fact that part of till had only shone out because mizi was there with him, presumably wanting to protect mizi by fighting back against the monster. i think ivan finally really starts to understand the extent of how much till loves mizi when he saw that till had no fighting spirit left in him to fight back when he choked him. to me, it wordlessly told ivan that he fell in love with the rebellious fire of a boy that was ignited by someone else. that till's hope was mizi, and that the fire would extinguish alongside her disappearance. that fight in till was never for ivan to fall in love with, it was for and because of the hope he gets from mizi.

[@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164]

AHHHHHH GOD THIS COMMENT HURT 😭😭😭 good analysis oh my god

[@arfahkhan5250]

Omg that's such a good theory

[@emyore]

you just tore my heart out with this omg

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

you are so fucking right YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHTTTT

[@angyla]

That's a really good analysis! It really change my view on this video😭

[@Okrock_.luv5]

Stoppp, the way Ivan’s expression softens when he spits blood😭😭

[@xivering]

STP ITTTT

[@Fromthestart123]

Bros just glad that his plan worked sucessfully of sacrificing himself for someone he loves 😭😭

[@InsufferableHumanBeing]

BROOOO A TEAR APPEARED WHEN HE REALIZED HIS PLAN SUCCEEDED (WHEN HE GETS SHOT AND SPITS BLOOD, WHEN HIS GAZE SOFTENS) HOW COME I ONLY KNEW ABT THIS KNOW AGHHHHHHHH, I THOUGHT THE ONLY ONE WHO CRIED WAS TILL. TURNS OUT THEY BOTH CRIED😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@InsufferableHumanBeing]

Count your days, Vivinos... ☹☹☹☹

[@dokjalost]

SHUT UP IM CRYING JST FOR THAT SCENE

[@Nougat_Nugget]

Guys, can we take a moment to appreciate the foreshadowing? In black sorrow, Ivan sang "at the end of this story, there is only a cold spot stained with blood and such black, black sorrow." And we all know who black sorrow is meant to signify? TILL. i am not okag 😭

[@Aperson-jx4mv]

OML THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. there are a couple of parallels in black sorrow and cure. (2:59 mentions the story bit) (in black sorrow the lyrics "where eyes reach, where your fingertips brush" and 0:15 - 0:30 "allow me, to the tips of your fingers, allow me, to the ends of your feet, dissolve me in your gaze)

[@t0rror599]

I dont think anyone here is okag lol TT

[@Nougat_Nugget]

@@Aperson-jx4mv STOPPPP, I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

[@nai.thedev1l]

stoop with thisss sobbing

[@chloekirstein4822]

So does that mean he was already planning on sacrificing himself even before black sorrow? 😭 PLS I JUST STOPPED CRYING A MOMENT AGO, I COULD FEEL IT COMING AGAIN

[@ChibiUsaaaa]

3:23 you see the way this kiss was less aggressive than the other ones? He did that once he saw tills score going up and his going down. This was a more genuine kiss of relief and a kiss to say goodbye, it was softer than the others because Ivan was saying goodbye.

[@shino_shuiro]

Y'ALL GOTTA STOP THIS 😭😭😭

[@myfarm2131]

The way u got me sobbing 😭😭😭 all I can think about are these two

[@NotBasil]

STOP THIS

[@OCmillion]

Screaming. Crying. Throwing Up

[@tartaglia__1]

PLEASE STOP

[@coolestdex]

3:46 ivan was dead before he hit the ground because the drums are his heartbeat

[@solanhscalero7320]

This is crazy

[@Its_Naomi01]

Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. I WATCHED THIS FOR LIKE THE 30TH TIME IM CRYING HELP

[@Ray_Ray-hg9sh]

how do you feel about the final round

[@catbutonyoutube424]

Real hes 100% alive I just got married to him a few weeks ago 🙏

[@simmy_ot]

IVAN'S ALIVE TRUST

[@julianadelosreyes7518]

Till and Ivan ALIVE! yet in heaven :3

[@user-zq4bt7un9e]

hola

[@inkcat7]

not only till doesn't think about ivan at all, but he doesn't look at him ONCE until he's physically forced to. even in ivan's flashbacks he only looks at ivan when he's provoked (when they have a fight, when ivan touches his wound) speaking of that fight they have... (2:03) ivan seems particularly happy. i wonder if it's because till is paying attention to him for once. even the lyrics go "notice my pain"

[@Bright_Berry-Roi]

yea I don't think Till likes Ivan

[@pathetic2399]

@@Bright_Berry-Roi They’re friends, as shown in the flashbacks, but he obviously has/had romantic feelings for Mizi.

[@OhOhriyo_11]

​@@Bright_Berry-Roiit's clear, I think Ivan is just there in till's life, he finally saw/notice Ivan at the end. It's always when they die they realise 😭

[@inkcat7]

​@@Bright_Berry-Roi nobody thinks that lol but it's more obvious since it's the first time we see them together in present time. it's not just that till can't spare ivan a thought, he can't even spare him a glance. it's like ivan is a ghost, which is a sharp contrast to how obsessive ivan is about till. it's also interesting how the till-mizi unrequited love feels a lot more innocent compared to ivan-till. it's probably because till is much less touchy and much more respectful, and also has other interests/things he cares about

[@OhOhriyo_11]

​@@inkcat7idk what u mean with "nobody thinks that" but I'm sure most do with the flashback and all. But yes sure that doesn't mean they are friends, maybe to till but I doubt that. Ivan is just there in till's life.

[@l0wkeyanintrovert]

That fucking smile . . . That smile of relief is killing me. The way Ivan looked at Till with so much love and adoration just killed me

[@losgatosontantop]

ESTOY LLORANDO.

[@F3l8_0ff]

I AM LISTENING TO THIS IN CHRISTMAS EVE AND CHRISTMAS... IVAN IS ALIVE. THEY ARE HAPPY TOGETHER...

[@adamlyleenjoyer2958]

I think this round is called "cure" because ivan brought light back to tills eyes and made him snap out of the "numbness"

[@auxanelabanane]

litteraly tho, Till's pupil expand before the kiss scene

[@Maximizer280]

STOP

[@marilingramajo1406]

dude i just realised, im about to cry

[@jwashere3667]

the fact that them expanding either means youre high or attraction/fascination, in this case, till prolly experienced the latter, i am not okay. Plus, they also say that in low light, your pupils dilate to let in more light which makes this even heartbreaking bc till was depressed and ivan was basically his light

[@jwashere3667]

i might be wrong but i refuse to get out of this delusion >:(

[@queenidragon4489]

can we just talk about how much emotion Ivans eyes had at 3:40 normally his eyes don't have highlights which makes him feel inhumane but as soon as he realizes he's actually going to die his eyes become more human

[@Haz3l.Sa1]

I read a theory that his eyes finally lit up only after he realized his plan worked and Till would have a chance to win and be safe and live- now I'm crying-

[@user-bp8tt3sq2x]

I mean the first time we see Ivan he scored a 90 but in this round he only scored a 70 he definitely sacrificed himself for Till

[@aerrrrrr]

@@Haz3l.Sa1yeah i was thinking that was probably the case too. if i loved someone as much as ivan did i wouldn’t be scared to die. i’d be happy that i was able to get the person i love to live

[@pofficial3345]

I don't see many people talking about it but i LOVE the symbolism of the choking scene. First, the kiss. I love how it's an actual great representation of their dynamic : Ivan does something upsetting to Till that leaves till with no choice but to look at him, but it's also a great moment for Ivan. The dynamic of the kiss is similar to the fight in the flashback, as it is one sided attention-seeking that's positive for one party and negative for the other. Second, the choking. Ivan takes a a cold attitude and pretends to choke Till while getting shot, and Till doesn't even respond in any way because the situation isn't upsetting to him (he never looks at ivan except when he does something annoying/bad) and has his eyes closed only thinking about Mizi. This type of dynamic has probably been going on for as long as they've known each other ; ivan suffering in silence for till's sake and till not looking, blind to what's happening because he's thinking about someone else he'll never obtain. Sorry if i repeated myself a lot ! Definitly one of my favorite part, if not my favorite. So many informations are condensed in this ! (Including on a sadder note Till's SA :( )

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

your analysis is SPOT on I love the way you explained the somewhat parasitic relationship between Ivan and Till! as much as we like to hope, their relationship would crash and burn in the end :(( "because the situation isn't upsetting to him" UGH Till's already given up the second he stepped on stage 😭😭 my heart cant take it and the implications of Till's SA is horrifying dude.. the purple alien smiling, undressed... christ they ARE monsters..

[@pofficial3345]

@@Ms.Matcha-u2y IKRRRRR That part (SA) made me sick to my stomach, tho i love how in Mizisua and TOP 3 (i think) you can see the different ways humans are treated. Some are treated like worse than garbage (Ivan, Sua) but some actually seem to be loving and caring (Mizi was very sad to leave her "family," and i think in top 3 there are glimpses of manifestations against human mistreatement)

[@pofficial3345]

@wirgehts9327 well basically, when Till started to fight the aliens he got pushed on the table (forgot the appropriate term) and was blocked by different aliens, then we see the purple alien who was previously dressed almost naked and petting Till who's a mess....so it's definitly possible

[@pofficial3345]

@wirgehts9327 i didn't even notice 🥲 also the way Ivan was dressed like a guard when he found Till...augh

[@killerfrost7529]

coming from the final round, its apparent that till feels as though ivan holds hate/scorn for him. when we see ivan in the last round on big board thingy, he's looking down at till with scorn and then ivan is in red when till has flashbacks. he's not only scared of the guns and the loom of death over him, but also of letting ivan down like he had once before when he let go of ivan's hand to run off back to mizi during that escape. he must have felt guilty for dragging ivan back with him. (of course, ivan did not get dragged back by till. Till simply let go. Ivan could have gone without till but he followed till. and in till's perception, he probably bares the guilt of ivan coming following him.) Mizi has always been a safe place for till but ivan had become somewhat of a burden to till. Till correlated ivan with death and guilt but he also appreciated the company that ivan gave him. he was even prepared to give his life up for ivan since he looked so dull and lifeless. the fight was winded out of him. But, ivan's death forced him to keep fighting, to be worhty of the sacrifice. and in his attempt to not let ivan down as he did once before, he painted ivan as a negative motivation, if that even makes sense. this sounded very reduntant ;'( Im just trying to make sense of things

[@rubymaciashernandez9938]

He couldn't bear the idea of losing Till, so he gave himself up instead... 😢💔

[@ae-hg6dw]

IM GONNA CRY stopp

[@추강]

POOR TILL

[@xen.xen.]

I CAN'T DO THIS

[@sxdnnezz-3390]

STOP IT ☹️☹️☹️

[@belph6]

doooooont say thattttt

[@sorayuu8134]

For some reason Ivan kissing Till is absolutely obliterating my heart, cause Ivan knows that his feelings aren't truly reciprocated, but he still kisses the one he is devoted to with such passion before sacrificing himself for that person - super painful 😭

[@Meowzers_3]

That’s why Ivan’s my favorite😔

[@Spideyhwa]

Ivantill kiss at the cost of ivan 😕

[@전혜성-x4i]

NOOOOOO I'M GONNA KAY EM ES 😭😭😭

[@ducky_2309]

It's ok mentally they're alive and well + married

[@Meowzers_3]

@@ducky_2309 my dreams are just dreams😫😭😭

[@j2an15r91]

Came back from Round 7, I love how they all came back to life and defeated the aliens and continue living together!!! Sua and Mizi living in the same house and Ivan and Till dating, while Hyuna slaying. They got the happy ending they deserved 💗🥺

[@Mythwalker_1408]

oh yeah..... sure haha really

[@killua_facha]

Remember whole alliance stage is a program and our kids are just actors, they are fine and happy 🥳

[@la_pendeja46]

Of course

[@AlphaMaleGrrr]

🅱️umber 🅱️ifteen 🅱️urger 🅱️ing 🅱️oot 🅱️ettuce 🅱️he 🅱️ast 🅱️hing 🅱️ou 🅱️ant 🅱️n 🅱️our 🅱️urger 🅱️ing 🅱️urger 🅱️s 🅱️omeone's 🅱️oot 🅱️ungus 🅱️ut 🅱️s 🅱️t 🅱️urns 🅱️ut 🅱️hat 🅱️ight 🅱️e 🅱️hat 🅱️ou 🅱️et

[@ayshuuuu_1004]

My favourite scene was when the director screamed "cut! "

[@MC_cyjh]

Day 7 of listening to this everyday for a year

[@Emo_Boychek]

You know, you and I agree on goals..

[@sannivaataja]

Ok so.... The detail that rattles in my brain constantly is that you can see Ivan dig his fingertips into Till's neck. Do you know what that means? HE'S SAFE-CHOKING HIM. He's not applying any pressure to his windpipe, meaning he doesn't do any harm to Till. He's only restricting bloodflow to his brain for a little bit. He's making it look like he's strangling Till without even causing him pain. This means I am crying and also that Ivan knows the choking technique used in very specific activities of the adult kind---

[@makemel0l215]

DAWG 💀💀 (referring to the last sentence)

[@agentzero9271]

stop stop I’m going to cry. Praying hoping till lives to spite those alien fucks and that Ivan is somehow alive

[@halcyon.x]

@@agentzero9271the copium is crazy as much as i want ivan to be alive that’s never gonna happen 😭

[@BallZackKisser]

Mf you do not just say that after we watched someone die 😭

[@bud521]

God, the scene with the alien clothed and then Till next to him with the clothes off the alien makes so much sense now It makes sens they'd be pumped out like that since they're nothing more than a commodity to the aliens so Yeah Ivan WOULD know how to do that 😭 gunna throw myself off the stage now

[@dimple2700]

I think out of all of them, Till seems to be the one most talented in music. He was writing his own music and he was the only one seen playing an instrument. Plus, Mizi even gifted him a flute. With how much he rebelled at every single opportunity, Till must have been super talented for him to even have passed and gotten into the tournament. And the fact that the aliens still made him perform outside of the tournament despite having to restrain him so much is crazy to me.

[@maiphuongnguyenthi1096]

It has been confirmed that he is indeed a musical genius!

[@AdSoyad-rp1vm]

Till would win against Luka ez, he can sing multiple genres

[@нтѕяєму]

And him hitting high ass notes in this song despite technically have little to no practice from depressing over mizi and stuff, so he's rlly a music genius ✋️✋️✋️

[@anonyme4659]

He also has the fastest selling albums! In addition from being a musical genius he is (maybe with Hyuna) the most expressive character in my opinion. Aliens love seeing human feelings, it's no wonder they love his music

[@ranjanem3047]

@@AdSoyad-rp1vm Yes he is more talented but the aliens still like Luka more. This is seen in the top 3 video and in round 5 where they cheer much more for Luka than Mizi.

[@tdf_worldkey6666]

Another thing to point put is that Till isnt chained any longer. All his life we see him chained up but the aliens recognize his vulnerability and weakness due to the missing/loss of mizi. His last fight is when the alien forces him to see her poster but after that hes put in the position of a pet. Docile and complacent. His hair is tamed. Hes collard and made presentable no longer the fighter he once was. He even plays the part of the duet onlt singing his part and letting ivan have his. Hes just a far cry from who hes been his entire life On the other side of that eveyone recognizes Ivan's sacrifice for till out of love but i think its that combined with the previous. Ivan loved to see Till's reactions he loved the attention he got when he provoked him and just in genral he liked his spirit and the death of that with the loss for mizi was just another blow to Ivan's one-sided love. Theyre singing to two different partners in two different states. Grief and acceptance. Song is straight fire too.

[@김도형-q4b8s]

진짜 해석에 따라 다른것같음…어떻게 보면 죽이려고 했다가 자기가 죽은것같고 또 어떻게 보면 총맞고 죽인거 숨기려고 못 조르고 죽은것같음..근데 마지막에 그 키스가 진짜 맴찟이다..

[@mochi0193]

As long as Ivan isn't shot in the heart, I still have faith he's alive.

[@cutie9]

He bled through his mouth bro that’s internal bleeding. They already wanted him dead so they arent gonna treat him. I hate to say this but most likely he’s dead. I pray to everyone he isn’t.

[@n9_xiu]

@@cutie9 nuh uh he's chillin with sua, hyuna and mizi guys trust ☹☹

[@nelnyann]

​@@cutie9HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT UR MAKING ME LOSE MY SANITY I SWEAR HES ALIVE GRRRR SNARLS

[@enclinker7951]

@@cutie9if he’s throwing up blood then he’s probably got shot in the lungs too ;________;

[@cutie9]

@@enclinker7951 yeah that’s what I meant I mean it doesn’t necessarily have to be lungs to be fatal just the fact he’s bleeding out from his mouth means he’s gonna die soon but never have I ever hoped I was wrong Pls be alive PLS PLEASE

[@katanaattack1421]

When you noticed Ivan Squeezed the side of Till's neck to not block his airway

[@유민-i6b]

3:44 틸이 항상 미지를 보느라 이반을 봐 주던 적이 없는데 마지막에 이반이 죽을 때 틸이 드디어 이반을 똑바로 보니까 이반 만족했다는 듯이 웃으며 가는게..... 나 울거야😭

[@safachaieb2725]

Starting the new year with this banger ❤❤😭

[@carmela1273]

Lmao‼️thought I was the only one. Glad Im not alone 😅

[@safachaieb2725]

@carmela1273 I literally opened it at midnight to listen to it before going to sleep and then re-listened after waking up 😂

[@CxiiElmo]

You can tell from Till's expression throughout that he had in a way accepted his fate and expecting to die this round - but he wasn't scared... he probably saw it as finally being released from this torment. What he didn't know, however, is that Ivan would never let that happen 😭

[@nejy44]

he was literally choking him..?

[@justcentipede]

He was sacrificing himself for Ivan, there is a right way to strangulate someone without intending to murder and that is exactly what he did, because he wanted to be disqualified to save Ivan.​@@nejy44

[@hannah5021]

​@@nejy44there are no marks on tolls neck from choking, Ivan was likely just holding his neck

[@nejy44]

@@hannah5021 i saw other comments saying the same thing but i dont think it was an intentional detail bcs why would ivan pretend choke till? wanting him to die with him makes more sense to me, especially bcs he kisses him first, sees that he lost and then starts choking him. also its weird to just be holding someone by their neck??

[@rrei0001]

​@@nejy44because you'll be killed if you harm your opponent I think, seen in round 5

[@lucyxx6022]

Never expected I’d come here to see Till being alive 💀

[@thischannelisdeadandsoami]

U DID NOT SAY THAT 😭😭😭

[@makqui7949]

…

[@xhiraeeth]

I hope you never feel joy again

[@V1MM1M3]

…

[@Strawberryy_Boy]

STOP 😭😭

[@user-ui3gf3mw6j]

이게 진짜 미치는 점이 마지막의 마지막까지 찐한 키스가 아니라 가벼운 버드키스라는게 이반이 틸을 사랑하는 감정이 진짜 순수한 사랑에서 나오는 아카페라는게 쫌 죽고싶어짐. 이반은 음침한집착광공처럼 보였는데 사실 가장 순수한 사랑을 하고 있었던 거임.... 맹목적인..... 이반은 틸 살리려고...어쩌면 틸에게 크게 기억되도록한 발악이였을지도 모르겠음.... 어쨌든 이반은 애초에 죽으려 올라온 무대같음....

[@초레래]

아아아 순수한 사랑이라는 말이 나를 미치게한다

[@sans-1]

다른 댓글이랑 노래 풀버전 영상 들어보니까 알게된건데요.. 공백 간주 시작했을 때가 원래 틸이 불러야했던 파트였는데 아무말 없이 가만히 있어서 이반이 마이크 던지고 틸 살릴려고 키스한거고 둘이 키스하던 장면은 원래 둘의 합주 파트였다는..ㅠㅠㅠ

[@은하수아래에서]

저혼자 지금 뒷북으로 버드키스의 이미 치면서 막 어... 혼자 난리 치고있는 사람... 그리고 혼자 계속 구라 같다 하면서 돌려 보고있는 사람

[@김은선-g6g]

그것보다 분홍여자애 죽고나서 틸이 자포자기 한거 같아서 노래도 그게 남아서 틸이 죽을거 같은니 이반이 그런 틸을 살리려고 그리고 자신을 위해서 살라는거 같은??ㅠ전 이둘이 제일 슬픔....ㅠㅠ보면서 눈물났네여..

[@hakuka-chandaiseki]

@@김은선-g6g 미지는 아직 죽은지 아니면 그냥 실종된건진 몰라요🤔 일단 틸 멘붕 박살난것같아서 슬프네요..😢

[@Imhungryyy1]

I've watched this about 100 times

[@Credit-card-simp]

It seems to me this song shows the unreciprocated love of each other. Till is singing it for Mizi, he truly believes his reason to live is dead; (1:11) “On your icy lips,” alongside with the image of her in a white robe as a kid shows that she is a corpse-cold, which makes her have icy lips. He also mentions “Let me drown in you” (0:54) emphasizing “let me” because he can’t, she’s no longer there. Till on the other hand says “I’ll drown in you” (2:22) which shows he can drown, and he WILL drown, because Till is there, and he loves him. Other comments have said that Ivan is dressed as a Broom while Ivan is dressed like he’s going to a funeral because it SHOWS their dynamic, Ivan loves him, while Till is MOURNING for Mizi. The only reason why he is even singing is FOR Mizi, to relief himself. While Ivan is doing it to LOVE Till. I feel like Ivan’s sacrifice wasn’t planned, he SAW that Till had no will to continue singing, he had this twisted idea that Till was singing Ivan’s song as a duet (because he probably wrote it since he’s a fan favorite and has privileges) but Till stopped singing after “To this everlasting melody” (2:51) and didn’t sing “With our story” (2:59) “Lost in forever’s embrace” (3:04) because it isn’t their story, it’s not reciprocated. Which also explains why Ivan sung “Face to face WE dance” (2:54) because he truly believes this is a duet. ALSO (edit) it is come to my attention that the original song IS a duet (it’s on Vivinos page) and the part where Till stopped singing was THE START of the duet, which actually confirms that it is symbolism for unreciprocated love. Even after the kiss, they’re dynamic is furtherly emphasized in 3:33 because Ivan wants Till to LOOK at him one last time, as he is desperate and his eyes shaking show it, but Till is only mourning and accepting his fate by having his eyes close, finally believing that his pain will be relieved. That he will get his cure. However the one getting his cure instead is Ivan. It’s called Cure because by Ivan dying, his pain of not having his love returned is cured. It isn’t a sorrow anymore, it’s cured by his own death.

[@borbattacc2251]

This is such a good analysis and I’m crying even harder, love all of your guys’ thoughts on the most recent stage 😭

[@Ms.Matcha-u2y]

CAN SOMEONE MAKE THIS TOP COMMENT?? the "let me" vs. "I will" was JUST at the tip of my tongue!! I knew they symbolized the difference in perspective. "wearing black to symbolize Till mourning for Mizi" THEGASP I GUSPED "Till not singing the 'with our story' line" WHOA BECAUSE IN TILL'S EYES ITS NOT ABOUT HIM AND IVAN. HE'S SINGING FOR MIZI. Ivan singing "face to face WE dance" because he recognizes hes singing with and FOR Till. Oh god. "Till thinking he'll be cured from his pain by dying when it's Ivan who dies in the end instead, freed from his unrequited longing" WHAT. YOU'RE SO SICK. YOURE SICK AND TWISTED AND I SEE THIS. BRIGHT AND CLEAR. I want to add on that Ivan probably tried to "cure" Till as well. Ivan tried to get Till to respond but Till remains silent and compliant. Till couldn't see Ivan trying to bring his flame, his fighting spirit back to life (because he was closing his eyes.. lmao) Theyre so undeniably doomed, thank you for this analysis. I enjoyed it MUCH and LOTS and I will read it fifteen hundred times over thank you mwah

[@Мерлин01]

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[@Maika-yr9wt]

This analysis is so amazing oh my god!!! Thank youuu

[@notaperson7986]

You've made me sadder with this in depth analysis 😭