R O U N D 6 | Alien Stage

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@VIVINOS
@VIVINOS 10 ай бұрын
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@Pixeldust5
@Pixeldust5 10 ай бұрын
APOLOGIES…..
@cyntheziser
@cyntheziser 10 ай бұрын
THIS IS SO FOUL
@sanmenela
@sanmenela 10 ай бұрын
YOU.
@foxibirdsdumps
@foxibirdsdumps 10 ай бұрын
vivinos... im gonna catch you...
@tordfi
@tordfi 10 ай бұрын
APOLOGIZE NOW
@Shadow_Moon007
@Shadow_Moon007 10 ай бұрын
Ivan sacrificed everything, even himself, for Till. The fact that Ivan is dressed in white (like Sua) like he's a corpse while Till is dressed in black (like Mizi) like he's going to a funeral is heartbreaking.
@aikuma_qiuji_anx3341
@aikuma_qiuji_anx3341 10 ай бұрын
and black hair... Sua and Ivan have black hair lmao (im crying of their death)
@employer_kaveh
@employer_kaveh 10 ай бұрын
i just realized that in the first round it's also the same, the one who wear white dies, and the one who wear black live but with grieve and regrets probably
@lyingndying
@lyingndying 10 ай бұрын
How does it feel to be an Orv fan and ALNST fan at the same time?
@soloyoxdnop565
@soloyoxdnop565 10 ай бұрын
​@@lyingndyinges horrible , ser fan del ivantill, satosugu, joongdok (ayudaa)
@Shadow_Moon007
@Shadow_Moon007 10 ай бұрын
@@lyingndying The world is cruel
@nevernorest8315
@nevernorest8315 10 ай бұрын
You know shit is going to be fucked up when the simple art style is suddenly more detailed
@Witches.and.ghosts
@Witches.and.ghosts 10 ай бұрын
Seriously
@sova1s
@sova1s 10 ай бұрын
emo till 😣
@GH0STME0WZ-
@GH0STME0WZ- 10 ай бұрын
fr
@cheezenayiax
@cheezenayiax 10 ай бұрын
Tbh i think its qmeng doing the job
@Sunrei-sama
@Sunrei-sama 10 ай бұрын
Qmeng cooked, she graduated from the sciences of yaoitology together with Vivinos yuritology
@graegrape
@graegrape 10 ай бұрын
I love how much Alien Stage reflects a lot of cheesy TV tropes like the love... circle? Triangle? Where everyone likes everyone but never back thing. But instead of playing it for a joke or something silly, it's written in a way that breaks your heart into a million pieces because the contestants' love is the one thing they got to choose for themselves.
@ur1c3hu33
@ur1c3hu33 10 ай бұрын
OOF that last bit hit me HARD
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
I literally hate you (this was great thank you for commenting this)
@nanny_uhh
@nanny_uhh 10 ай бұрын
the last part hit hard, and you are right, ALL of it is not their choice, their clothing, how they are shown to their fans, their music (only Till got to sing a song he created alone)
@pigeontoes5421
@pigeontoes5421 10 ай бұрын
More like a love line LOL, Mizisua was mutual but sua is dead, till loves mitzi unrequited, ivan loves till unrequited, and nobody loves Ivan....
@graegrape
@graegrape 10 ай бұрын
​@@pigeontoes5421YEAH. Pretty much - Don't forget the additional Luka-Hyuna one-sided pining. (noone loves ivan? the fanbase begs to differ/j)
@Echo0435
@Echo0435 14 күн бұрын
Literally, saw fan art of Till and Ivan on the internet, was interested to find out more about who the characters are, tried to find the name where they come from, checked to see if it was an anime which was no, and then somehow got directed to KZbin where it is a series of music videos, came in completely unprepared or aware, after every video got emotionally damaged, now traumatized. WHAT ON EARTH!!!!
@lunorofficial
@lunorofficial 12 күн бұрын
same bro. that's why I hate what youtube recommends me
@hannaahle
@hannaahle 8 күн бұрын
THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME 😭😭
@aradhyasingh5694
@aradhyasingh5694 7 күн бұрын
US. i hate the internet
@eosofspades_357
@eosofspades_357 5 минут бұрын
LMAOOOOO SAME
@Adsentas
@Adsentas 10 ай бұрын
Notice how Till's neck doesn't even have marks of choking? That means Ivan was just holding his hands on his neck, not even trying to hurt him... God, I'm crying...
@o_o.b
@o_o.b 10 ай бұрын
와....😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@rat_5219
@rat_5219 10 ай бұрын
So does that mean that Ivan was faking the whole choking part so he would be disqualified?
@Orange_Tanger
@Orange_Tanger 10 ай бұрын
@@rat_5219 yes 😭
@-jay-sam-
@-jay-sam- 10 ай бұрын
Yeah​@@rat_5219
@Xytching
@Xytching 10 ай бұрын
OMGGG TYSM NOW THE TEARS JUST WONT STOPP 😭😭😭😭
@shaythemoonchild431
@shaythemoonchild431 10 ай бұрын
The tragic thing for me was seeing how far Ivan has gone to keep Till safe. He literally disguised himself as a security guard to get Till out of that bar. I can only imagine the other things he’s done. I believe that’s the whole reason why he became the fan favorite. He knew being loved by the aliens would give him more freedom to protect and keep Till alive. As the favorite, he had to go through horrifying things but it was all worth it if it meant Till was still there. Truly, Ivan is the best character for me.
@prnc96
@prnc96 10 ай бұрын
THIS
@nadachan184
@nadachan184 10 ай бұрын
YEAH! Ivan already done so many for Till, just showing how much he loves him 😭 It's break my heart that Till finally look at him in the last moment of his life :')))
@astrelz6177
@astrelz6177 10 ай бұрын
Till is the Mizi to his Till
@mochiii6291
@mochiii6291 10 ай бұрын
FR I LOVE HIM SM
@hiyonono
@hiyonono 10 ай бұрын
disguised at the bar? i think it was an afterparty and ivan was just there with his own guardian like till was.
@rosen_venus
@rosen_venus 10 ай бұрын
There's something truly sad about how Till tries to push Ivan away when he kisses him, but just goes limp when Ivan starts choking him. For a character that's always seen fighting back, when his best friend seemingly tried to kill him, he just accepted it. I think Till went into this competition with the expectation that he would lose, maybe even hoping he would lose since now the only thing that made life worth it to him (Mizi) was gone. Then, his realization of what Ivan did, the fact that Ivan must've felt for him what he felt towards Mizi - that Till dying would've made life pointless for Ivan...
@sofiagutierrez7989
@sofiagutierrez7989 10 ай бұрын
El sol no necesita de la luna para brillar. Sua e Ivan no podrian reponerse de la perdida de sus amigos
@金獨子
@金獨子 10 ай бұрын
STOPPP IM GONNA BITE U 😭😭
@totoro413
@totoro413 10 ай бұрын
Im wondering if luca will try to provoke till the same way he provoked mizi, since he sees this as a way to secure victory. And i wanna see how till would react to that
@Editor_zephyr
@Editor_zephyr 10 ай бұрын
@@totoro413 Fr, since Till is not in a good mental state the way Mizi was when the competition. I can only hope Hyuna will save Till too.
@eltipo4695
@eltipo4695 10 ай бұрын
​@@totoro413i don't (fully) think Luka would do that, especially since he seems to be kinda tired of winning. There could even be a chance of him working with the rebellion because of how he acted when he noticed Hyuna helping Mizi on Round 5
@Lunar-bo9kw
@Lunar-bo9kw 19 күн бұрын
Ik it’s been like 9 months but I wanted you all to know the reason why the music is so fast and loud when Ivan is dying is because he was in pain and afraid of death, but still willing for Till, in contrast when till died his heartbeat was soft and slow because he accepted that he would die and was happy to see Mizi.
@woklaza2074
@woklaza2074 18 күн бұрын
Comment button was optional btw
@Hana-o2p1h
@Hana-o2p1h 16 күн бұрын
@@woklaza2074Fr
@KarenVee-pv5pj
@KarenVee-pv5pj 16 күн бұрын
BRO ENOUGH
@francinellanto3588
@francinellanto3588 14 күн бұрын
i did not open KZbin just for me to see this...
@ALNST70
@ALNST70 12 күн бұрын
sleep with one eye tonight :3
@raaaaaaaaah1112
@raaaaaaaaah1112 10 ай бұрын
When you realise the shine in Ivan's eyes was gone when he was choking and kissing Till, but it came back when he saw Till's score go up and at the end when he knew that Till was gonna live and go to the next round
@Rayscales6
@Rayscales6 10 ай бұрын
I’m gonna cry
@รชตกระแสสินธ์
@รชตกระแสสินธ์ 10 ай бұрын
Sobbing
@WiseAsianGirl
@WiseAsianGirl 9 ай бұрын
Stoppp 😭😭😭😭
@myfictionaluniverse
@myfictionaluniverse 3 ай бұрын
All that for Till to not live _past_ the next round-
@NamGyuHousewife
@NamGyuHousewife Ай бұрын
​@myfictionaluniverse Fr
@VTEK_ENTERTAIN
@VTEK_ENTERTAIN 10 ай бұрын
I think what sickens me the most about this is that Ivan didn't even look happy when he was kissing Till, and he died smiling because Till finally acknowledged him
@SalomSands
@SalomSands 10 ай бұрын
a kiss full of sorrow almost.
@lindianocean
@lindianocean 10 ай бұрын
@@SalomSands black sorrow 😭
@neo-gu5wf
@neo-gu5wf 10 ай бұрын
IM FKCING CRYING WAIT
@bevq2246
@bevq2246 10 ай бұрын
I thought he smiled because he knew for sure he was gonna die at that point and till would be saved, he looked panicked a moment before when he saw till was unresponsive
@dinorex4105
@dinorex4105 10 ай бұрын
.
@achhi101
@achhi101 10 ай бұрын
The hypocrisy of Ivan for mocking Sua for sacrificing her life for mizi, just for him to do the same
@OhOhriyo_11
@OhOhriyo_11 10 ай бұрын
I knew he would do the same 😭 he said all that cuz he knew well that till only sees mizi, and if he dies, it won't affect till as much as sua did to mizi (is what ivan thinks at least ,in my opinion T*T) cuz mizi actually loves sua
@pigeonpiupiu
@pigeonpiupiu 10 ай бұрын
Where did Ivan say about sua sacrificing herself?
@strrrbry_tl
@strrrbry_tl 10 ай бұрын
Community post but it's in Korean tho​@@pigeonpiupiu
@OhOhriyo_11
@OhOhriyo_11 10 ай бұрын
@@pigeonpiupiu it's in the community post!
@Man-uj5di
@Man-uj5di 10 ай бұрын
@@OhOhriyo_11which one if i may ask
@NamGyuHousewife
@NamGyuHousewife Ай бұрын
Anyone realize that Till had a shine in his eyes when Ivan went to kiss him, and even after the kiss his eyes shined. After Ivan died (he's alive please please please), that shine never went away, probably because he finally realized that there was someone who liked him, yet he never knew until it was too late.
@MeepMoop_
@MeepMoop_ 28 күн бұрын
THIS OMG.
@NamGyuHousewife
@NamGyuHousewife 28 күн бұрын
@@MeepMoop_ You noticed it to?
@anyameowie
@anyameowie 21 күн бұрын
JFANJNADH I SEE IT NOW OMG TY FOR POINTIN DIS OUT. IVAN IS ALIVEEEEE. 🙏🏼
@MeepMoop_
@MeepMoop_ 11 күн бұрын
@IvanIsAlive1 yep!
@tillsunbae
@tillsunbae 9 күн бұрын
it’s been 9 months let it gooo 😭😭🙏 let it goooo frozen style 🙏
@HeavenBarnhard
@HeavenBarnhard 8 ай бұрын
Love how the first couple of kisses Ivan gives to till are aggressive and the last one is a sweet little kiss.
@Meowzers_3
@Meowzers_3 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s to make the guards think that he’s being super aggressive to be sacrificed and the last little kiss is like a confession and goodbye at the same time🤷‍♂️
@kokor7804
@kokor7804 8 ай бұрын
@@Meowzers_3DAAAAAMN.
@Mentalyanna
@Mentalyanna 7 ай бұрын
@@Meowzers_3ain’t no way stop making me cry rn
@Biologicaly_reo
@Biologicaly_reo 7 ай бұрын
SHUT UP UR MAKING ME CRYY
@Beautifully_Horny
@Beautifully_Horny 7 ай бұрын
​@@Meowzers_3 STOOOP I DON'T WANNA CRY BRO
@Echoetic
@Echoetic 10 ай бұрын
I could write a whole essay about how beautiful and morbid “TILL WIN” being reflected in Ivan’s blood is.
@anotherstranger1273
@anotherstranger1273 10 ай бұрын
theres a lyric in Black Sorrow about a pool of blood IM CRYING THE FORSHADOWING
@Echoetic
@Echoetic 10 ай бұрын
@@anotherstranger1273 OMG I saw that too, this series is gonna be the death of me ;-;
@NevaRthelesser
@NevaRthelesser 10 ай бұрын
MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS MORBID???
@Frosterabyte
@Frosterabyte 10 ай бұрын
I want this on my desk first thing tomorrow morning
@lalaloveshiluu
@lalaloveshiluu 10 ай бұрын
@anotherstranger1273 Also Everytime the lyrics "end of this story" appear it all shows Till in the scene and in both of those times that line appeared, the line that comes next fits well with Ivans "death"
@Betonryn
@Betonryn 10 ай бұрын
It’s the way that at the end, after the painfully one sided kiss and the “choking” (which even if till wasn’t actually being choked it’s still painful to have someone grab your neck like that) Ivan gives one last small, gentle kiss knowing it’s the last thing he’ll ever do right before he dies
@Betonryn
@Betonryn 10 ай бұрын
Ive rewatched this too many times
@cina2218
@cina2218 10 ай бұрын
@@Betonryn literally me too im so sad augh
@PatientSqueaky
@PatientSqueaky 10 ай бұрын
I was waiting to see if anyone else saw it! Dude I swear PLEASE let Sua and Ivan be alive or else I swear on my life I will commit arson
@Betonryn
@Betonryn 10 ай бұрын
@@PatientSqueaky I aspire for your level of delusionality 😭 I don’t think they making it outta this one all we can do is hope that Mizi doesn’t get caught and that round 7 doesn’t have a death
@LIANARAMIREZ-tc8cx
@LIANARAMIREZ-tc8cx 10 ай бұрын
@@PatientSqueaky FOR REAL
@barfqq01
@barfqq01 Ай бұрын
Crying because someone said that the erraticness of the guitar in 2:45 is signifying how fast his heart is racing compared to round 7 when till is in his final breaths except his is more "its finally over" while ivan's is "not yet i cant go yet"
@barfqq01
@barfqq01 Ай бұрын
Also during the kissing scene his heart has a soothing pace with a sense of desperation which then the guitar starts back up with that same erratic sound at 3:28 and finally ends with silence.
@Doodle-g7h
@Doodle-g7h Ай бұрын
stop making me cry
@barfqq01
@barfqq01 27 күн бұрын
@Doodle-g7h sorry😭
@ava5679
@ava5679 22 күн бұрын
WOW BEAUTIFUL ATTENTION TO DETAIL
@mccat5
@mccat5 4 күн бұрын
Sharing isn’t caring sometimes
@nomuntemuul2808
@nomuntemuul2808 10 ай бұрын
Idk if this detail was intentional, but Ivan looks like a groom getting married, and Till looks like he's going to a funeral. Maybe the same could be extended to Mizi and Sua.
@_mycherie
@_mycherie 10 ай бұрын
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
@animeismylife6823
@animeismylife6823 10 ай бұрын
THE HELL I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT FIRST
@graychuchu
@graychuchu 10 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD
@leenaa.
@leenaa. 10 ай бұрын
ITS MIZISUA ALL OVER AGAIJ
@RVUI
@RVUI 10 ай бұрын
HOLY?? GOOD OBSERVATION THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT ONE OUT
@purpleaether
@purpleaether 10 ай бұрын
so i've been rewatching the rounds and i realized something. in round 5 when mizi starts beating the shit out of luka, the guards come and pull her off of him, wrangle her away, and only after all that just START to point a gun at her head. but because of all that, the resistance had time to come in and save her. so when ivan started doing the same thing, they began shooting him down immediately. because if they didn't, it would give the resistance time to come in and save him, and they don't want that to happen again. that's why none of the guards approached. they would rather kill him quickly than give opportunity for saving 😭
@Krill_Phil
@Krill_Phil 10 ай бұрын
I just noticed this too. A really neat but really sad detail...
@chwrleseyler
@chwrleseyler 10 ай бұрын
no😭😭 i already cried but this... just hurts man
@miumiuwony
@miumiuwony 10 ай бұрын
it can also be that luka is more well liked than till, and they were ok with till getting roughed up
@Keijikink
@Keijikink 10 ай бұрын
Thank you I am now going to cry myself to sleep /j
@shumikass
@shumikass 10 ай бұрын
I don't think so, in round 1 they kill Sua Instantly. Maybe last time was just a lucky big mistake
@Kikopoke
@Kikopoke 10 ай бұрын
It's the "you wont realize how much they truly loved you til it's too late" trope that breaks me :( PLEASE LET HIM MIRACULOUSLY BE ALIVE BRUH I CANT TAKE IT
@tellmewhy7733
@tellmewhy7733 10 ай бұрын
Notice how Ivan's body is shown we might still have hope. Sua's body wasn't shown in her and Mizi's round, so she's dead asf (let me cope i am coping im nkt entirely really sure if ivan will miraculously come out from his grave, BUT LET ME COPE)
@TinTeaKettle
@TinTeaKettle 10 ай бұрын
Being delulu is sometimes not the solulu guys 😭
@l3unnyo
@l3unnyo 10 ай бұрын
ONG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHY SO SAD😭🙏
@katsune1830
@katsune1830 10 ай бұрын
"you wont realized how they truly loved you,Till its too late."
@yukilovescakes
@yukilovescakes 10 ай бұрын
It would be such a waste if a good character were killed off just like that. There's still a chance that he'll live; just trust 😭
@sunoosfav397
@sunoosfav397 9 күн бұрын
"ivantill had a happy ending!!!" i scream as i get dragged into the white room
@Suliamif
@Suliamif 8 күн бұрын
real
@tiffanykay6060
@tiffanykay6060 10 ай бұрын
I didn't even notice that Til stopped singing until I listened to the official video from Studio LICO. In this video you can hear him sing in the audio but if you watch his lips he stopped. That's why Ivan acted when he did, otherwise Til would have lost then and there.
@mikameow1856
@mikameow1856 10 ай бұрын
STOP THIS, I CANT TAKE ANYMORE! I’ve cried way too much bc of them already 😭
@eshal1924
@eshal1924 10 ай бұрын
AAAHH WAIT YOURE RIGHT I DIDNT EVEN CATCH THAT…... oh im so sick of *course* he stepped in then
@linhfphung7867
@linhfphung7867 10 ай бұрын
I had to rewatch to catch it!
@escolastica2926
@escolastica2926 10 ай бұрын
Although in this case it's probably like that, in previous rounds it also seems to be that voice ≠ animation
@tiffanykay6060
@tiffanykay6060 10 ай бұрын
@@escolastica2926 also because the song is cut short here. The Studio LICO version has another couple of verses that they didn’t get to cause Til stopped.
@drows.y
@drows.y 10 ай бұрын
He wasn't choking him since there were no marks visibly left. Ivan was trying to save Till by doing that. I'm crying..
@TheLawlessRogue
@TheLawlessRogue 10 ай бұрын
WHHUSBUHS CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS FOR ME? PLS, IM A LITTLE BIT SLOW
@Kai_4951
@Kai_4951 10 ай бұрын
@@TheLawlessRogue People are theorizing that Ivan's doing a special type of chokehold where he's holding Till's neck from the sides instead of the front so that makes it seem like he's choking Till without actually hurting him. And he did all that to guarantee Till's victory.
@Lorelei_Podfics
@Lorelei_Podfics 10 ай бұрын
Si, estoy segura de que Ivan noto que Till iba a perder y lo asfixio para salvarlo, por eso las balas eran dociles, porque eran de advertencia para que parara 😭
@BranZart-o3u
@BranZart-o3u 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheLawlessRogue he was doing it so his score would go down and then Till would win
@ultimatesimp9963
@ultimatesimp9963 10 ай бұрын
Till’s score was already higher than his though?
@misspuffin8854
@misspuffin8854 10 ай бұрын
I know people keep saying we don't see any trace of Ivan in Till's eyes until it was already too late, but I think it's more tragic to point out that we do see Till 'see' Ivan during his section. When they were kids, when Ivan had no light in his eyes. So, I think it'a more appropriate to say that the end was more like the first time Till ever saw the light in Ivan's eyes and been able realize that that light had always been for him.
@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164
@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164 10 ай бұрын
i have nothing to say this comment made me weep 😭
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
I am not mentally stable enough for this (thank you for the analysis)
@vanyzvat
@vanyzvat 10 ай бұрын
STOP IT .
@heartz4orv
@heartz4orv 10 ай бұрын
You’re just making my pain worse, oh gosh
@rainmellow14
@rainmellow14 10 ай бұрын
Stop, please stoppp making me cry
@pierogiukrainskie802
@pierogiukrainskie802 Ай бұрын
THE FACT THAT TILL WONT EVEN LOOK AT IVAN WHEN IVAN IS CHOKING HIM TO SAVE HIS LIFE
@LucifersFav-_-
@LucifersFav-_- 10 күн бұрын
ITS NOT TILLS FAULT TILL THOUGHT IVAN WAS CHOKING HIM TO DEATH TO WIN THE ROUND
@pierogiukrainskie802
@pierogiukrainskie802 10 күн бұрын
@LucifersFav-_- I know😭 im not saying its tills fault im just saying its kinda sad
@Kiki-qd4sw
@Kiki-qd4sw 10 ай бұрын
I think one of the saddest things about this is how when we see Till’s pov Ivan is never in it, but when we see Ivan’s pov Till is EVERYWHERE. Every other person or face is not important like Till is to Ivan, meanwhilr Till doesn’t even SEE Ivan. And he knew, he knew his love wasn’t reciprocated, it’s so clear in his lyrics too 😭😭 I feel like Ivan knew he was going to die the second he turned back to go with Til…. ((I JUST REALIZED THE FIRSY TIME HE ‘SEES’ IVAN IS AFTER HIS NECK IS LET GO AND IVAN LOOKS SO HAPPY RAHHH IM NOT OK))
@chuuwuyal2272
@chuuwuyal2272 10 ай бұрын
THIS. UNTIL THE END TILL ONLY SEES MIZI. I'm devastated
@Kiki-qd4sw
@Kiki-qd4sw 10 ай бұрын
@@chuuwuyal2272we are so not ok lets all hold hands in alien stage heaven
@orca3432
@orca3432 10 ай бұрын
WAHHHHH
@pulped69dago91
@pulped69dago91 10 ай бұрын
he finally saw him but it's too late rip
@aizeace
@aizeace 10 ай бұрын
@@pulped69dago91STOP DONT SAY THIS MY HEART😭😭😭
@clairecook6499
@clairecook6499 10 ай бұрын
What’s so heartbreaking about Ivan strangling Till to save him, is the symbol of Ivan taking off Till’s collar that has shown up so many times throughout the series. In their backstory, we see Ivan taking off Till’s restraints on multiple occasions, especially the collar over his mouth. He does it back in Ankat Garden when they make their escape attempt, and he’s shown doing it in the flashback in this episode as well. While the aliens want to stifle Till’s chaotic and rebellious nature, Ivan loves that part about Till, and he wants to free him from his bindings, no matter how loud and violent he can sometimes be. But, when Mitzi disappeared, Till lost his rebellious spirit. As he sings during this round he looks defeated, hopeless, with no fight left to give. Ivan can’t stand for that. He has to help Till get his spirit back, no matter the cost. By Ivan’s final act being strangling Till, what he’s really doing is taking of his collar. He reaches for Till’s neck, for the hundredth time, for the last time, intent, as always, to free Till from the aliens. And when his hands fall away, Till is free -free from the fate that awaited him, and maybe, just maybe, with Ivan’s death, Till can regain his rebellious spirit again.
@ScaraLoreRambler
@ScaraLoreRambler 10 ай бұрын
Stop, you’re gonna make me cry
@sxdnnezz-3390
@sxdnnezz-3390 10 ай бұрын
stop.
@Der-Erste-Stern
@Der-Erste-Stern 10 ай бұрын
I hadn't thought of the parallel between choking and he being constantly the one to remove Till's collar and muzzle. Thank you for the renewed pain, I'll got to sleep crying again
@suzuyahaise401
@suzuyahaise401 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE THIS OBSERVATION SM ARGGG
@Marumer0
@Marumer0 10 ай бұрын
But why did Ivan have to die? I hope Till loved Ivan a little bit. I think Ivan was loved by the aliens and that's why he could be saved. If that happens, I hope they will be together.
@aracel9730
@aracel9730 10 ай бұрын
Ivan basically said: “you can live without me, but I can’t live without you” 😭
@newbee7753
@newbee7753 10 ай бұрын
nooo now your making me cry again 😭
@decristal48
@decristal48 10 ай бұрын
Stoooop 😭😭😭
@sophialee8678
@sophialee8678 10 ай бұрын
😭💔
@tsukasayugi9065
@tsukasayugi9065 10 ай бұрын
whyy 😭😭😭
@ovillainessart-beginnerart2938
@ovillainessart-beginnerart2938 10 ай бұрын
Aaah crying 😭
@Aika_Saihara
@Aika_Saihara Ай бұрын
No matter how many times I see it, IvanTill always hurts, the love Ivan has for Till enough to sacrifice himself for him is so heartbreaking
@MomoMMDs
@MomoMMDs 10 ай бұрын
Vivinos really said "Your favorite ship gets to kiss, but its the most unsatisfying and uncomfortable one-sided kiss ever and it only happens because one of them wants go out with no regrets."
@아잉이잉오잉
@아잉이잉오잉 10 ай бұрын
😭
@The_miIk
@The_miIk 10 ай бұрын
Fr. The way the my mouth DROPPED
@---ro1fc
@---ro1fc 10 ай бұрын
She’s out to get us for real, lmao. Killing everyone for fun and ruining the silver linings 😩
@ilovejinhsimywife
@ilovejinhsimywife 10 ай бұрын
SOBBING RIGHT NOW😭😭😭
@erihtea0719
@erihtea0719 10 ай бұрын
@JohnThefarmer-ig8um ⁠Listening to a bot won’t bring Ivan back 😭
@apclypse
@apclypse 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Ivan only smiles at the end once he knows Till is safe 😭 He doesn’t smile while kissing the person he loves but only after he’s sure Till would live 🥹 I am not okay
@foregroundeclipse8725
@foregroundeclipse8725 10 ай бұрын
Can I tell you about my Oc for Alien Stage? This idea, kinda has been done before. Especially with the original Macross Anime. But hear me out though . What if the male character I'm making who loves Ivan back , is half Alien and half human . But he was exiled from society . I know this is a mess but it's a draft idea so far . We haven't seen half human, half alien characters in Alien Stage. And I think it would be interesting. I haven't decided how Ivan and my Oc will meet yet. But I want Ivan to have a guy who loves him too. I think Ivan will teach my Oc what it means to be human . I was a bit inspired by the original Macross Anime and it's movie Do You Remember Love? And Gunslinger Girl / Violet Evergarden for making my Oc. I named him Noah . What do you think? 👀
@foregroundeclipse8725
@foregroundeclipse8725 10 ай бұрын
Also I'm very much coping right now so forgive me of my crazy ideas. I really hope Ivan is alive.
@ys-zw1vv
@ys-zw1vv 10 ай бұрын
이 해석도 진짜 좋다… 마지막에 웃는게 사랑하는 사람이 살아있을거라고 확신을 가질 수 있어서였구나 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
@sofiassalas3759
@sofiassalas3759 10 ай бұрын
No lo ví de esa forma, ahora procederé a llorar más 🥲
@dinorex4105
@dinorex4105 10 ай бұрын
.
@Alexell_Tata
@Alexell_Tata 10 ай бұрын
Notice how starting from 2:54 of the vid, Ivan's eye lack those glint or white stuff on his eye, they only came back when, FIRST, when he was looking at the scores. Then SECOND, when he was shot for the last time. Notice how he lacked those glint while kissing Till. It's as if he wanted Till to hate him even more, so that the ending can be less painful. Notice how, even with the cold demeanor and forcing Till, at the end, he was able to be relieved that the person he loves most got to live. That even then, Ivan managed to show who he really is to Till before dying. Just like in Black Sorrow, Ivan's mask broke because of Till, and in the end, Ivan's end, it was still Till who broke that mask of his. Only Till.
@joymoua6651
@joymoua6651 10 ай бұрын
STOP YOU’RE MAKING ME SOB
@KrisninaArwenSanPablo-ip2sj
@KrisninaArwenSanPablo-ip2sj 10 ай бұрын
im sure you also suffered typing this comment as much as i have suffered and cried soooo much reading this. bet it was like : 'notice...*sobsobsob* how even, *cries*'
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 10 ай бұрын
It felt a lot like ivan was trying to make till hate him even more so till would remember him, kinda like how it was hinted that sua originally was going to sacrifice herself for mizi to save mizi and also so mizi would remember her
@bombom1157
@bombom1157 10 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
​@@msk-qp6fn hits hard when you remember the community post where Ivan talks to Sua about being selfish and sacrificing herself because Ivan sAYS to her "you'll be a traumatic experience to Mizi" he knows Till doesn't love him, nor even look at him even when Mizi isn't around, but he still plays up his cold persona so Till doesn't pity Ivan when he dies- which knows he will. Ivan doesn't want any good memories attached to him in Till's mind so that Till can continue fighting and live on with no heartbreak.
@coolestdex
@coolestdex Ай бұрын
3:46 ivan was dead before he hit the ground because the drums are his heartbeat
@solanhscalero7320
@solanhscalero7320 Ай бұрын
This is crazy
@paen8547
@paen8547 10 ай бұрын
I just noticed this but- During his first song Till sang a determined love song, while Ivan sang a sorrowful song. Now Ivan is singing a determined love song, while Till is singing a sorrowful song.
@shino_shuiro
@shino_shuiro 10 ай бұрын
STOPPP 😭😭🙏
@bananajam6393
@bananajam6393 10 ай бұрын
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭
@boulboul4354
@boulboul4354 9 ай бұрын
GURLL WHYYY IM SOBBINNGGGG
@riaawr
@riaawr 9 ай бұрын
BYEEE 😭😭
@itzrachei
@itzrachei 9 ай бұрын
😭
@colfing_
@colfing_ 10 ай бұрын
As the saying goes “to be loved is to be seen” IVAN was never seen by Till in his memory flashbacks☹️ but Till was everywhere in IVAN’s memories 😭
@cloudi3kyovo
@cloudi3kyovo 10 ай бұрын
WHY DID YOU MAKE ME THINK ABOUT THIS STOP
@roka745
@roka745 10 ай бұрын
STOP Now I'm crying again 😭😭😭
@xivering
@xivering 6 ай бұрын
ongoing traffic here i come 😹😹😹
@bbinfolder
@bbinfolder 4 ай бұрын
WHY R U DOING THIS
@ProfessionalPasta
@ProfessionalPasta 3 ай бұрын
Ivan is the only character not seen in aneyone memory . While every character had someone they considered thear god and their beloved , Ivan is the only unloved mf . Btw does aneyone know how to tie an rope?
@idris8190
@idris8190 7 ай бұрын
Whoever mentioned that the light returned in Ivan’s eyes after he knew for sure that he succeeded COUNT YOUR DAYS
@xcarnielx5249
@xcarnielx5249 7 ай бұрын
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABT THIS I HATE YOU SM IM IN YOUR WALLS😡😭💔💔😭
@hanjisung_ie
@hanjisung_ie 6 ай бұрын
I just checked after reading your comment. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW 😭😭😭
@pazuz.u_soccer0419
@pazuz.u_soccer0419 6 ай бұрын
I BATE YOU SO MCUH
@V1atrixxi3
@V1atrixxi3 6 ай бұрын
NO I LITERALLY JUST STOPPED CRYING WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS
@V1atrixxi3
@V1atrixxi3 6 ай бұрын
I REWATCHED IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT I HATE YOU SO MUCH😭😭
@oyasumii.i
@oyasumii.i 25 күн бұрын
Not so fun fact because I’m about to cry for a hundredth time because of this animation: I can’t pinpoint the timestamp because it’s such a small detail but it’s between 3:04 and 3:09 you can see Till’s eyes dilate when Ivan cups his face. Now there are many reasons eyes dilate from a medical condition or bright light but one that I felt was most fitting for this was an emotional trigger or response. In round 6 (maybe round 3 too?) Ivan is seen holding Till’s face when he is unconscious multiple times. This makes me feel like Till recognized Ivan’s touch even though he was asleep for those moments, a persons touch can still be recognizable. I think at that moment Till was thinking ‘That was Ivan’s touch all along?’ And it caused an emotional response from either shock or comfort because he may have felt comfort from Ivan’s touch even though they argue a lot, I can especially tell after the S/A of the purple alien at 1:07-1:18. After leaving him in a room unconscious there comes Ivan’s precious ass.. oh also not sure if anyone else noticed this but Ivan disguised himself as a security guard to get Ivan out of that studio place which shows up in Till’s memory so at least he remembers that(?) idk anyway I’m gonna go cry now byebye~
@mccat5
@mccat5 4 күн бұрын
I agree with most of this but i think Ivan was also attending the afterparty no? The suit should’ve just been his outfit not a disguise Now i can’t stop thinking about the beta round 6 concept art where Till was the one in a suit and Ivan was the one in ripped clothes 😭 fellas is it worse to be shot straight through the heart as you look into the eyes of your beloved or shot 3+ times as you choke him?
@BellUH-1
@BellUH-1 10 ай бұрын
Ivan is the true Gigachad of the story, he got what he wanted (made Till aware of his feelings) and sacrificed himself in order to protect who he loved, his black sorrow.
@mizisuamyuniverse
@mizisuamyuniverse 10 ай бұрын
feeling kinda a little too dead inside atm after watching but ngl this comment made me actually chuckle & feel a bit better especially the "his black sorrow" at the end lol like ah so true, you shall be forever slay icon Ivan, our King (doomed) Yaoi the third 🤧😭🖤
@nanny_uhh
@nanny_uhh 10 ай бұрын
​@@mizisuamyuniverse 😂 king of doomed bl
@lacedups
@lacedups 10 ай бұрын
YUPPP HES THE GOAT
@emilieseng7478
@emilieseng7478 10 ай бұрын
For real😢😢😢
@leepiclarz
@leepiclarz 10 ай бұрын
he's my favorite character in this
@mikalzhe
@mikalzhe 10 ай бұрын
IVANTILL KISS AT WHAT COST 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@AnArtsyAlicat
@AnArtsyAlicat 10 ай бұрын
EVERYTHING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@leenaa.
@leenaa. 10 ай бұрын
MY SANITY
@BallZackKisser
@BallZackKisser 10 ай бұрын
"YAYYYYYY--OH JESUS CHRIST IVAN NOOO😭"
@shunnyday_.
@shunnyday_. 10 ай бұрын
IM GOING TO SOB FOR AGES
@Miloisrllycool
@Miloisrllycool 10 ай бұрын
MY METAL STATE.
@amber_eys3015
@amber_eys3015 10 ай бұрын
Something that i realised is how Till says "Let me drown in you" (0:51) to Mizi because he loves and adore Mizi, but she isn't interested in him which makes him crave that love from her even more. He wants to drown in her love but he cant because her love wasnt meant for him, it was meant for Sua. Ivan on the other hand says "I'll drown in you" (2:20) indicating that he can and WILL drown in his love for Till. "Drowning" in this case implies that he'll lose himself the deeper he goes. So this means he'll willingly love Till, even if it means he will lose himself in the process.
@tarpey3232
@tarpey3232 10 ай бұрын
OH YOU ARE VILE FOR POINTING THIS OUT. IM NEVER GONNA KNOW PEACEFUL REST EVER AGAIN AFTER THIS. (/pos thank u for giving me another thing to think about at night)
@aliceofclover
@aliceofclover 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact! (It's not a fun fact I'm on the brink of tears) The Korean word used in "drown" when translated literally can also mean to dye, to color, to infect, or to *taint.* Till's literally singing "Let me be tainted by you," and Ivan's literally singing "Let me taint you,"
@shina3425
@shina3425 10 ай бұрын
PELASE STOP IM ALREADY HEART BROKEN AFTER READING OTHER COMMENTS WHY MUST THIS ONE MAKE EM CRY AGAIN
@dinorex4105
@dinorex4105 10 ай бұрын
.
@averiefrncsca
@averiefrncsca 10 ай бұрын
SHUT THE HELL UPP
@ashedtrash
@ashedtrash 3 күн бұрын
HELP I discovered alien stage barely a week ago and I've had this song in repeat ever since and I JUST noticed that the kick drum is supposed to sound like a heartbeat, sounding even clearer on Ivan's part and during the kiss, stopping just before he hits the floor. This is so genius and I love it so much I have so many chills and I'm crying so much I'm going insane ;-; The song literaly starts with a plain heartbeat, why did it take me so long to notice it was so obvious omg
@Guy-IeatedIvanfromALNSTforTill
@Guy-IeatedIvanfromALNSTforTill 2 күн бұрын
HAHAHA
@Shadow-si2sk
@Shadow-si2sk 9 ай бұрын
the fact that in the first round Mizi wore a black dress and Sua a white dress and in the sixth round Till wears a black outfit and Ivan wears a white outfit represents that, Ivan and Sua died in peace for the person they loved while Till and Mizi they will mourn their sacrifice...
@nobody0670
@nobody0670 8 ай бұрын
STAWP😭😭😭 MY HEART CANT ANYMORE. WHY DID I HAVE TO SEE THIS 😭😭
@Meedens
@Meedens 8 ай бұрын
ACTUALLY ABOUT TO BREAK DOWN IN TEARS. AGAIN.
@leahblevinokimba2120
@leahblevinokimba2120 8 ай бұрын
Why am I still scrolling through these comments 😭
@SomethinPeachyPeach
@SomethinPeachyPeach 8 ай бұрын
WHAT A GOOD FUCKING READDDDD WOW THATS WILD🤯🤯🤯🤯
@shinyy_mineyy
@shinyy_mineyy 8 ай бұрын
IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE PAIRS 😭😭😭
@KaLa1865_
@KaLa1865_ 10 ай бұрын
3:34 I can’t help but feel that Ivan is not just making sure that they keep shooting him, but his expression is just desperation to have Till look at him one last time.
@ikimiyu
@ikimiyu 10 ай бұрын
☹️
@vdeo5547
@vdeo5547 10 ай бұрын
He got what he wanted…at the very end….
@axolotlanarchy5958
@axolotlanarchy5958 10 ай бұрын
honestly, I bet a lot of thoughts were running through his head there in just that one frame. ivan fell in love with till for his rebellious spirit, and now he’s watching him just give up without a fight. and that’s after he DID fight when ivan was kissing him. till would literally rather die than kiss him back. god this whole mv is heartbreaking
@VvrsteelUndersilk
@VvrsteelUndersilk 3 ай бұрын
No🫸😭🫷
@CxiiElmo
@CxiiElmo 10 ай бұрын
You can tell from Till's expression throughout that he had in a way accepted his fate and expecting to die this round - but he wasn't scared... he probably saw it as finally being released from this torment. What he didn't know, however, is that Ivan would never let that happen 😭
@nejy44
@nejy44 10 ай бұрын
he was literally choking him..?
@justcentipede
@justcentipede 10 ай бұрын
He was sacrificing himself for Ivan, there is a right way to strangulate someone without intending to murder and that is exactly what he did, because he wanted to be disqualified to save Ivan.​@@nejy44
@hannah5021
@hannah5021 10 ай бұрын
​@@nejy44there are no marks on tolls neck from choking, Ivan was likely just holding his neck
@nejy44
@nejy44 10 ай бұрын
@@hannah5021 i saw other comments saying the same thing but i dont think it was an intentional detail bcs why would ivan pretend choke till? wanting him to die with him makes more sense to me, especially bcs he kisses him first, sees that he lost and then starts choking him. also its weird to just be holding someone by their neck??
@rrei0001
@rrei0001 10 ай бұрын
​@@nejy44because you'll be killed if you harm your opponent I think, seen in round 5
@MC_cyjh
@MC_cyjh Ай бұрын
Day 7 of listening to this everyday for a year
@Emo_Boychek
@Emo_Boychek Ай бұрын
You know, you and I agree on goals..
@mccat5
@mccat5 4 күн бұрын
You are a brave soldier bc I’ve only been able to stomach watching this round through edits up till now. Even the studio version of Cure makes me sob
@RB_kun40567
@RB_kun40567 9 ай бұрын
The Fact that Ivan was born on 14 Feb (velentine's day) yet was remained deprived of love.
@villager96
@villager96 9 ай бұрын
That’s the day he was adopted I believe, not his real birthday
@RB_kun40567
@RB_kun40567 9 ай бұрын
​​@@villager96 can't confirm it as it's not mentioned there that if it's his adoption date or birth date. Still can be consider as bday. *Edit* : it's confirmed it's his birthday the lastest community poll post about character profile says "birthday: 0214".
@villager96
@villager96 9 ай бұрын
@@RB_kun40567 maybe he hates that date because it’s the day he was adopted by ugly aliens 🥶
@RB_kun40567
@RB_kun40567 9 ай бұрын
@@villager96 could be
@villager96
@villager96 9 ай бұрын
@@RB_kun40567 why would you edit your comment though? Didn’t you say something like 'we can still consider it to be his birthday'? And no, when they were tweeting about the birthdays of the characters, everyone had birthday besides the date except him, who had *adoption* day instead. They never said what his birthday was, probably because it’s supposed to be unknown.
@yunnish
@yunnish 10 ай бұрын
even in the acrylic standee merch, till isn't looking at ivan, but ivan is looking at till...
@vanyzvat
@vanyzvat 10 ай бұрын
Stop im tired of crying 😭😭
@tn_otaku1702
@tn_otaku1702 10 ай бұрын
This is breaking me 😿
@jaegaya4282
@jaegaya4282 10 ай бұрын
PLEASE SHUT IT I WANT TO MOVE ONN
@suntailu88
@suntailu88 10 ай бұрын
BRO I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I almost started crying again
@Unoosu3444
@Unoosu3444 10 ай бұрын
Dude enough 😭 I can't
@freshpresso9436
@freshpresso9436 10 ай бұрын
I find Till's development in this clip very interesting. You can see here that he's given up. He is the first to stop singing, he barely resists Ivan during the kiss. It's such a stark contrast to the first clip. Till from the past could put up a fight, but he doesn't now. Till is so devastated. On the cotrust, seeing Ivan's eagerness to fight for every bit of attention from Till, and his immense strength for self-sacrifice really breaks my heart.
@That0neStay
@That0neStay 10 ай бұрын
this.
@CyberWarezz05
@CyberWarezz05 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and he's like that because Mizi disappeared. In the first clip she was almost next to him and basically the song was dedicated to her. Now, with her missing, he feels like he has nothing to lose anymore and I find this pretty interesting since we know that Mizi loved Sua and showed no interest in Till. He's so in love with her and devoted it hurts...
@the._.sillies1108
@the._.sillies1108 15 күн бұрын
no matter how many times i watch it, i still end up crying.
@bambe.e
@bambe.e 10 ай бұрын
Everyones saying that Till is singing like he's given up but like can we talk about how Ivan sings? He's confident and determined because he knows what he has to do😭
@akinmedarda
@akinmedarda 10 ай бұрын
And the fact he was winning too.. Gosh
@lemon.n
@lemon.n 10 ай бұрын
​@@akinmedarda😭😭
@knightnight6533
@knightnight6533 10 ай бұрын
NO CAUSE IT MADE ME FEEL SO LIKE STRESS OUT LIKE WHEN I HEARD TILL SING THE FIRST TIME
@knightnight6533
@knightnight6533 10 ай бұрын
Like this was a major jump from his original song, disobeying in like every conceivable manner like he sang the whole part without letting the other guy sing, he killed the guitar alien all with a smirk and passion on his face. He sang with more passion and intensity in his voice and the majority was in English (I don’t think that’s really apart of it I just find it neat). However now he’s quite the opposite. He is singing like how Alien stage is intended to be sung, the genre and tone of the song is completely different than the previous song. While his voice is still really good it lacks the same spark the original song has since it was a huge shift. I know a lot of people point out how Till dresses like if he was going to a funeral and Ivan to wedding. But I also want to point out how different their wardrobes are from the original songs. In Round 2 till was wearing a white loose t-shirt with [not too] loose pants. He also had no shoes which again I feel was meant to show his rebellious nature. Again his current appearance is the opposite a tucked in? (Could be wrong) black shirt that is now missing any design that the last one had. As well as the tight black pants, it’s more form-fitting like he has decided to con”form” with alien stage ever since mizi disappeared. While it’s obvious that he lost his spark and is going through grief and depression because of it the I like how the a simple black outfit can reflect that. Now on to Ivan’s outfit. The most clear difference between his previous and current outfit is the color, from black to white. However there is more about his outfit is that it was constricted I am unsure on what exactly it is (belt?) however now In round 6 those restrictions are no longer seen on him. His current outfit is (recycling the same thing i said about till) except Ivan’s outfit is less form fitting, looser reflecting that he no has anything else to hide because he already knows he will die (he definitely had this planned out) it’s much asymmetrical and has more flow in comparison to his previous outfit. I absolutely adore how Vivinos designs the characters and their outfits to reflect the state they’re in.
@Nomnomla
@Nomnomla 10 ай бұрын
The pain to realize that ivan sacrifice himself for till so he can live happily bro i cant stop sobbing 😭🙏🏽
@Nobody-No-body
@Nobody-No-body 10 ай бұрын
Can we talk about how Till's final score is 89 and in Round 3, when Ivan wasn't self-sabotaging, his was 90? One point difference. Again. The parallels to Mizi and Sua are endless. I'm so tired Vivinos, what about my mental health? Huh? I've got exams coming up and all I can think of is these two little bastards. I miss you so much Ivan.
@악과잉
@악과잉 10 ай бұрын
😢😢😢
@krihnolte
@krihnolte 10 ай бұрын
SAME..
@glsh-6786
@glsh-6786 10 ай бұрын
I have my final exams and MAN I WANNA *** DIEEEE
@i_heart_jesus-l1v
@i_heart_jesus-l1v 10 ай бұрын
Good luck on your exams y’all
@lavenderq2106
@lavenderq2106 10 ай бұрын
SAME😭
@margarettshinearevalo7069
@margarettshinearevalo7069 10 ай бұрын
i'd just like to point out the fact that ivan fell in love with till because of his rebellious attitude and his spirit, when he fought against that monster dog thing when he they were still kids at the episode for round three. and the fact that part of till had only shone out because mizi was there with him, presumably wanting to protect mizi by fighting back against the monster. i think ivan finally really starts to understand the extent of how much till loves mizi when he saw that till had no fighting spirit left in him to fight back when he choked him. to me, it wordlessly told ivan that he fell in love with the rebellious fire of a boy that was ignited by someone else. that till's hope was mizi, and that the fire would extinguish alongside her disappearance. that fight in till was never for ivan to fall in love with, it was for and because of the hope he gets from mizi.
@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164
@majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164 10 ай бұрын
AHHHHHH GOD THIS COMMENT HURT 😭😭😭 good analysis oh my god
@arfahkhan5250
@arfahkhan5250 10 ай бұрын
Omg that's such a good theory
@emyore
@emyore 10 ай бұрын
you just tore my heart out with this omg
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
you are so fucking right YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHTTTT
@angyla
@angyla 10 ай бұрын
That's a really good analysis! It really change my view on this video😭
@Imagine-Histoire
@Imagine-Histoire 6 күн бұрын
Ivan's voice is so perfect 😭
@unknownhermit5897
@unknownhermit5897 10 ай бұрын
Something I noticed about Ivan is that I feel like, whenever Till looked like he was feeling down or looked like he was on the verge of giving up, Ivan would do things to purposefully grate on tills nerve in order to get him to fight. I think he did that because he fell in love with Till and his fighting spirit and never wanted to see it die out. I feel like it's also part of the reason why he kissed Till during the competition as well. Because of Mizi being gone, he looked like he was on the verge of giving up and Ivan didn't want that. Granted I'm just speculating, but it feels like a common theme.
@icy4636
@icy4636 10 ай бұрын
wow, i agree! just noticed that. maybe he had mutipple plans an intentions behind the kiss and strangling. making sure he would get disqualified, trying to make till mad and keep fighting..
@Tartaglitwo
@Tartaglitwo 9 ай бұрын
You make me sick I want to cry
@swaggooo9638
@swaggooo9638 9 ай бұрын
wait i have question why did ivan choke till even tho till got a higher score than ivan
@unknownhermit5897
@unknownhermit5897 9 ай бұрын
@@swaggooo9638 I personally feel like it was, again, in part to incentivse Till to fight back like he always did. Possibly a wrong interpretation, but that's my perspective. I also know it's quite likely he wanted the score to stay the same so that he would be the one killed.
@토야-x6q
@토야-x6q 9 ай бұрын
Ivan died for Till..😢
@xxx-xh8xr
@xxx-xh8xr 4 ай бұрын
rip ivan, you would have loved tills outfit in r7
@Gotchaluv
@Gotchaluv 4 ай бұрын
LMAOO REALL
@kaika1._
@kaika1._ 4 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY REAL
@junecapinpin
@junecapinpin 4 ай бұрын
REALLL LMAOO
@Zahaveron
@Zahaveron 4 ай бұрын
NO BC HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS TO R7 LUCAS ROUNDS ARE ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL
@briskaadet
@briskaadet 4 ай бұрын
Vivi knew he would get too 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
@Snowflake0_0.
@Snowflake0_0. 3 ай бұрын
The fact that he looked at the score machine to make sure Till's points would be more than his and then kissed him one last time MAKES IT EVEN MORE HEARTBREAKING LIKE WHY DONT YOU JUST STAB ME IN THE HEART INSTEAD OF KILLING ME LIKE THIS 😭
@malik_h_
@malik_h_ 3 ай бұрын
And the relief on his face when he knew till would win-
@crispicheese
@crispicheese 3 ай бұрын
AKUTAGAWA PFP SPOTTED
@1real_human1
@1real_human1 3 ай бұрын
STOPP
@FatimaMohammed-z8f
@FatimaMohammed-z8f 3 ай бұрын
I hate this
@Lalectorasecreta
@Lalectorasecreta 3 ай бұрын
😭 pienso lo mismo 😢
@mizisuamyheartt
@mizisuamyheartt 5 күн бұрын
Did anyone notice that Till hallucinates **past** Mizi instead of present Mizi? We see in Round 5 that he was watching the round, as we see his reaction to Mizi being pulled away by the guards while she was acting aggressively. Both Sua and Till used Mizi’s ‘innocence’ / obliviousness as a coping mechanism to shield themselves from the truth of the harsh world they lived in. Till hallucinates the Mizi he knew in Anakt Garden, the pure, happy Mizi who he admired and watched from afar, it’s like he was refusing to accept that Mizi could actually hurt someone (her beating Luka up and acting aggressively).
@holdinonion
@holdinonion 10 ай бұрын
At 3:46 Ivan's smile basically said ''You finally looked at me'' IM CRYING
@Inu-s2457
@Inu-s2457 10 ай бұрын
im gonna cry 😭🙁
@밥념
@밥념 10 ай бұрын
OMG
@Kiro_printer
@Kiro_printer 10 ай бұрын
IM LITTERALLY PUJCHING THE WALL
@lazypotato582
@lazypotato582 10 ай бұрын
UR NOT INVITED TO MY IVANTILL BIRTHDAY PARTY
@minionsun31
@minionsun31 10 ай бұрын
Y si, ayyy lloro 😭😭😭
@tremendo_simp
@tremendo_simp 10 ай бұрын
THE LITTLE SMOOCH IVAN GIVE TO TILL BEFORE DIYING AS A FREAKIN FAREWELL TO THEN START "CHOKING" HIM SO HIS OWN POINTS DOWN AND ALSO HIS BELOVED AND FRIEND DOESN'T SEE HIM BE SHOT TO DEATH JUST BREAKS MY SOUL 😭😭
@akinmedarda
@akinmedarda 10 ай бұрын
IKRRR I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT BCUZ IM LIKE I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE
@Everlasting_Peace1
@Everlasting_Peace1 10 ай бұрын
He wasn't even choking him because there were no marks on Till's neck 😭 He made it look like he was choking him so he'd get eliminated.
@akinmedarda
@akinmedarda 10 ай бұрын
@@Everlasting_Peace1 WOOW I DIDNT NOTICE THAT
@Hurururur
@Hurururur 10 ай бұрын
I AM GONE.
@ILOVE_ME-STAR
@ILOVE_ME-STAR 10 ай бұрын
FR I CRY
@Angel...............
@Angel............... 10 ай бұрын
ok but how the second kiss feels much more genuine. Like after he checks the scores he gives him a short gentle one that feels both like a reassurance and a goodbye. Since Ivan tends to always look out for him in the past I guess thats how his genuine emotions shows up more. And that's when Till looks calm, really sees him and fully embrace him and the situation.
@strawberry_jelly262
@strawberry_jelly262 10 ай бұрын
IKR that’s exactly what I was thinking bc ofc the first kiss was a shock to till but the second time is exactly how you describe it
@m.0186
@m.0186 10 ай бұрын
IVAN SMILED AT THE END WHEN HE REALIZED HE WAS DYING AND THAT MEANT TILL WOULD LIVE AND THAT ENOUGH MADE HIM HAPPY EVEN WHILE DYING I AM IN SHAMBLES edit: guys my notifs please, i know what happens next i'm still in recovery ok....... 😭
@pigeonpiupiu
@pigeonpiupiu 10 ай бұрын
WAIT OMG I JUST REALISED THAT HE'S HAPPY BECAUSE HE'S GONNA DIE INSTEAD OF TILL OMG IMMA CRY IN CORNER
@basileaf...
@basileaf... 10 ай бұрын
STOP IT I'M ALREADY CRYING HARD ENOUGH
@annabellthedoll9953
@annabellthedoll9953 10 ай бұрын
I'm literally shaking I'm not okay.
@annabellthedoll9953
@annabellthedoll9953 10 ай бұрын
​@@pigeonpiupiu I'm crying in my bathroom.
@lizzyrank5405
@lizzyrank5405 10 ай бұрын
I think it's also because for once Till looked at Ivan in the eyes. It's sad though that in his last moments Ivan is finally in Tills eyeline, yet would never have the same impact as Mizi.
@redfoxakame
@redfoxakame 8 ай бұрын
"I love you. Live." That's all I heard from Ivan in the end.
@TinaShmina
@TinaShmina 7 ай бұрын
Saw a comment somewhere saying Till can live without Ivan but Ivan can’t without Till and it broke me (T n T)
@Saya-ng1sl
@Saya-ng1sl 7 ай бұрын
“Thank you for being a victim to my shallow emotions”
@Arkleio
@Arkleio 7 ай бұрын
@@Saya-ng1sl is this perhaps a quote from somewhere?
@Lulu_0809
@Lulu_0809 7 ай бұрын
@@Arkleioit’s from a comic in Ivan’s perspective. You can find it on the official alien twt account or on this channel’s community tab. It was posted about 2-3 months ago the title is “confession” with the first photo being the back of Sua. Hope that helps! (Also sorry if I sent this twice, KZbin was acting up for me)
@Arkleio
@Arkleio 7 ай бұрын
@@Lulu_0809 thank you so much!
@ella_0929
@ella_0929 10 ай бұрын
i noticed that during till’s last line before the kiss, he’s actually not singing (2:58), meaning he was purposefully trying to lose, and when ivan noticed this he made sure till would win by acting “aggressively” on stage 🥲
@onigiri8125
@onigiri8125 10 ай бұрын
You know, if you compared Ivan's performance in black swan to here, Ivan sang less emotionally here. What I theorised was that the more emotions you put in your singing, the higher points you will get. Cause if you were to hear closely when till was singing, when he thought of sua his voice got raspier. Ivan's voice was similarly like that in black Swan when he started thinking of till. Ivan wanted to throw the entire performance all along by singing more monotonously. Then at the end, till gave up, like what you pointed out. Ivan doubled down and did the choking act, but probably kissed him first because fuck it all right?
@onigiri8125
@onigiri8125 10 ай бұрын
I am crying my ass out 😭
@DELETLO
@DELETLO 10 ай бұрын
@@onigiri8125 Black swan??? Sua??? Bro what au of alnst are you watching
@OneveryonessoulsTillisalive
@OneveryonessoulsTillisalive 10 ай бұрын
​@@onigiri8125 the kiss also probably seemed like Ivan suffocating Till if they didn't know human gestures 🥲
@Ilikesharks732
@Ilikesharks732 10 ай бұрын
@@onigiri8125realest thing ever
@mrycatlvr_8
@mrycatlvr_8 Күн бұрын
MY MOUTH WAS GAPING OPEN THE WHOLE TIME EVEN IF I SAW THIS SO MANY TIMES ALREADY.
@myst1558
@myst1558 10 ай бұрын
you can really hear it in their voices, till’s voice is trembling and full of raw emotion and desperation, but ivan’s is steady, calm, determined. like he knows what he has to do. IM CRYING
@sy-mp6ip
@sy-mp6ip 9 ай бұрын
your friendly reminder you currently have 1.6k likes
@I_WAS_HERE_FR
@I_WAS_HERE_FR 14 күн бұрын
Your friendly reminder you currently have 2.5k likes
@mx-flohwalzer9104
@mx-flohwalzer9104 10 ай бұрын
it’s the fact that ivan holds on until the last bullet hits that makes me go crazy… he knew that if he let go on the first bullet, the aliens would have just saved him. so he kept pushing until the point of no return…and that’s why when the final killing bullet hits he smiles immediately before letting go…
@Yoon-n8f
@Yoon-n8f 10 ай бұрын
ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ
@Meisimp
@Meisimp 10 ай бұрын
Im cryingg😭😭😭
@PremiumCA
@PremiumCA 10 ай бұрын
ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ😢😢😢😢 i am crying...
@Paaanchiko
@Paaanchiko 10 ай бұрын
Don't do this to me
@bombom1157
@bombom1157 10 ай бұрын
oooooooooooooooo😦😦😦😦😦😭
@kara8825
@kara8825 10 ай бұрын
Ivan's sacrifice is heartbreaking for a multitude of reasons. For starters, Ivan knows that Till (in his current state) would never choose him in place of Mizi. I mean, he has watched Till literally give up his complete freedom from ALNST just to stay by her side. Regardless, he would do what he could to capture Till's attention, even if it meant purposefully teasing or picking a fight with him (2:03). This is because, to Ivan, Till is practically the only reason his life has meaning. As an audience, we can assume that Ivan has had a hard life full of abuse prior to his participation in ALNST. His eyes in flashbacks are drawn with little to no light. That is until he meets Till, the only character (including Hyuna) to have shown some real resistance to the ALNST and alien control since his childhood. In ALNST Round 3, we see that Ivan views Till's volatile, uncontrollable personality as something as beautiful as a sky full of shooting stars. He wishes so desperately to be the one to hold Till's spark, for his blaze to "consume him" (2:42). Yet, after Mizi's disappearance following ALNST Round 5, Till's flame goes out. He becomes a shadow of his former self, losing his fighting spirit in the process. And Ivan is forced to watch the person he loves, the one thing that has proven to him that life is worth living, completely throw himself away. Till wanted to die that day. He wore black to his own funeral. Even when Ivan began kissing and choking him, he never put up much of a fight to resist (3:26). But Ivan was willing to risk everything for Till. He threw his chance of living by tossing his microphone aside and began to "attack" Till as it was the only way he could assure his loss. He even kept holding on after multiple shots. Although, he could never truly hurt Till as Ivan only wrapped his hands around his collar rather than his neck. And with a final kiss goodbye, Ivan died with a smile. He was genuinely grateful that was able to save Till from a death marked by the ALNST, and that for once, even if it was at the end, Till's eyes were only on him.
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
how has nobody commented on this?? oh my god?? "Ivan views Till's volatile uncontrollable personality as somethinh as beautiful as a sky full of shooting stars. He wishes so desperately to be the one to hold Till's spark, for his blaze to consume him" LORDDD YOU _ATE_ WITH THISSSSS?? Ivan wants Till all to himself, which in theory he SHOULD considering Mizi is out of the picture. But Mizi is Till's oxygen, he needs her like he needs air. As you've beautifully pointed out, Till's flame was slowly dying. Till's flashback even shows him distraught when he's supposed to perform in front of the aliens. Till has always been the rebel, he's resisted being pushed around at any given chance, but this time he can't even stand to put his mask back on and sing for these pricks. He fights back when he sees the aliens lash out at him and threaten him, Mizi's missing poster being shoved in his face being the icing on the cake. He is finally neutralized by who I assume is his guardian, but he's beaten and bruised. He's helpless. This is the point of no return I think, this is what leads Till to just surrender emotionally. "Wearing black to his own funeral" as you put it. "Ivan is forced to watch the person he loves completely throw himself away" and its so painful because he'd rather die himself than watch Till's spirit stop burning bright. Gosh, what maniacs they are- Ivan I mean. And Vivinos. for creating this beautiful mess of love, devotion, and death.
@kurutta-sama2442
@kurutta-sama2442 10 ай бұрын
Friend, your comment made me cry, you are completely right.
@alkosvdka
@alkosvdka 10 ай бұрын
This is an amazing summary and interpretation. I couldn't think to add any more to this as it describes this episode so well.
@seyiselaton
@seyiselaton 10 ай бұрын
EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE END, TILL'S EYES WERE ONLY ON HIM 😭😭😭
@mairairu7
@mairairu7 10 ай бұрын
Godddddff vivinos what are you smoked when you done this😢
@stephenking7330
@stephenking7330 23 күн бұрын
The fact that the most viewed part is the kissing scene makes me laugh
@rubymaciashernandez9938
@rubymaciashernandez9938 10 ай бұрын
He couldn't bear the idea of losing Till, so he gave himself up instead... 😢💔
@ae-hg6dw
@ae-hg6dw 10 ай бұрын
IM GONNA CRY stopp
@추강
@추강 10 ай бұрын
POOR TILL
@xen.xen.
@xen.xen. 10 ай бұрын
I CAN'T DO THIS
@sxdnnezz-3390
@sxdnnezz-3390 10 ай бұрын
STOP IT ☹️☹️☹️
@belph6
@belph6 10 ай бұрын
doooooont say thattttt
@Editor_zephyr
@Editor_zephyr 10 ай бұрын
IVAN MADE HIMSELF LOSE, LOSING HIS OWN SINGING TIME JSUT TO KISS TILL ONE LAST TIME.
@fcxfchfchgchdxrtxtucjy4055
@fcxfchfchgchdxrtxtucjy4055 10 ай бұрын
you say one last time like they’ve kissed before THIS IS THEIR FIRST AND LAST KISS IM GOING TO THROW UP
@LostCloverIntheWood
@LostCloverIntheWood 10 ай бұрын
WE BELIEVE IN IVAN SURVIVING
@chivalrie
@chivalrie 10 ай бұрын
STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES OUT😭😭
@leroyjenkins1249
@leroyjenkins1249 10 ай бұрын
LUCKILY! To be honest: no matter the tragedy, forced kisses are s* assault. Made me hurl to watch it. He is lucky it had a point
@yjohnson3678
@yjohnson3678 10 ай бұрын
@@leroyjenkins1249I mean granted with the situation they’re in I don’t think their morality can compare to us on that lvl. They were raised by aliens that saw them as literal pets. Tho I get what you mean.
@Credit-card-simp
@Credit-card-simp 10 ай бұрын
It seems to me this song shows the unreciprocated love of each other. Till is singing it for Mizi, he truly believes his reason to live is dead; (1:11) “On your icy lips,” alongside with the image of her in a white robe as a kid shows that she is a corpse-cold, which makes her have icy lips. He also mentions “Let me drown in you” (0:54) emphasizing “let me” because he can’t, she’s no longer there. Till on the other hand says “I’ll drown in you” (2:22) which shows he can drown, and he WILL drown, because Till is there, and he loves him. Other comments have said that Ivan is dressed as a Broom while Ivan is dressed like he’s going to a funeral because it SHOWS their dynamic, Ivan loves him, while Till is MOURNING for Mizi. The only reason why he is even singing is FOR Mizi, to relief himself. While Ivan is doing it to LOVE Till. I feel like Ivan’s sacrifice wasn’t planned, he SAW that Till had no will to continue singing, he had this twisted idea that Till was singing Ivan’s song as a duet (because he probably wrote it since he’s a fan favorite and has privileges) but Till stopped singing after “To this everlasting melody” (2:51) and didn’t sing “With our story” (2:59) “Lost in forever’s embrace” (3:04) because it isn’t their story, it’s not reciprocated. Which also explains why Ivan sung “Face to face WE dance” (2:54) because he truly believes this is a duet. ALSO (edit) it is come to my attention that the original song IS a duet (it’s on Vivinos page) and the part where Till stopped singing was THE START of the duet, which actually confirms that it is symbolism for unreciprocated love. Even after the kiss, they’re dynamic is furtherly emphasized in 3:33 because Ivan wants Till to LOOK at him one last time, as he is desperate and his eyes shaking show it, but Till is only mourning and accepting his fate by having his eyes close, finally believing that his pain will be relieved. That he will get his cure. However the one getting his cure instead is Ivan. It’s called Cure because by Ivan dying, his pain of not having his love returned is cured. It isn’t a sorrow anymore, it’s cured by his own death.
@borbattacc2251
@borbattacc2251 10 ай бұрын
This is such a good analysis and I’m crying even harder, love all of your guys’ thoughts on the most recent stage 😭
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
CAN SOMEONE MAKE THIS TOP COMMENT?? the "let me" vs. "I will" was JUST at the tip of my tongue!! I knew they symbolized the difference in perspective. "wearing black to symbolize Till mourning for Mizi" THEGASP I GUSPED "Till not singing the 'with our story' line" WHOA BECAUSE IN TILL'S EYES ITS NOT ABOUT HIM AND IVAN. HE'S SINGING FOR MIZI. Ivan singing "face to face WE dance" because he recognizes hes singing with and FOR Till. Oh god. "Till thinking he'll be cured from his pain by dying when it's Ivan who dies in the end instead, freed from his unrequited longing" WHAT. YOU'RE SO SICK. YOURE SICK AND TWISTED AND I SEE THIS. BRIGHT AND CLEAR. I want to add on that Ivan probably tried to "cure" Till as well. Ivan tried to get Till to respond but Till remains silent and compliant. Till couldn't see Ivan trying to bring his flame, his fighting spirit back to life (because he was closing his eyes.. lmao) Theyre so undeniably doomed, thank you for this analysis. I enjoyed it MUCH and LOTS and I will read it fifteen hundred times over thank you mwah
@Мерлин01
@Мерлин01 10 ай бұрын
Я сейчас задохнусь от слез после этого комментария. У вас глаз алмаз. Заметить такие мелкие детали...
@Maika-yr9wt
@Maika-yr9wt 10 ай бұрын
This analysis is so amazing oh my god!!! Thank youuu
@notaperson7986
@notaperson7986 10 ай бұрын
You've made me sadder with this in depth analysis 😭
@ScandalousLove-p2f
@ScandalousLove-p2f 3 күн бұрын
The emotional pain i go through everytime I watch Ivan and till is unbearable
@adamlyleenjoyer2958
@adamlyleenjoyer2958 10 ай бұрын
I think this round is called "cure" because ivan brought light back to tills eyes and made him snap out of the "numbness"
@auxanelabanane
@auxanelabanane 10 ай бұрын
litteraly tho, Till's pupil expand before the kiss scene
@Maximizer280
@Maximizer280 10 ай бұрын
STOP
@marilingramajo1406
@marilingramajo1406 10 ай бұрын
dude i just realised, im about to cry
@jwashere3667
@jwashere3667 10 ай бұрын
the fact that them expanding either means youre high or attraction/fascination, in this case, till prolly experienced the latter, i am not okay. Plus, they also say that in low light, your pupils dilate to let in more light which makes this even heartbreaking bc till was depressed and ivan was basically his light
@jwashere3667
@jwashere3667 10 ай бұрын
i might be wrong but i refuse to get out of this delusion >:(
@Nougat_Nugget
@Nougat_Nugget 10 ай бұрын
Guys, can we take a moment to appreciate the foreshadowing? In black sorrow, Ivan sang "at the end of this story, there is only a cold spot stained with blood and such black, black sorrow." And we all know who black sorrow is meant to signify? TILL. i am not okag 😭
@Aperson-jx4mv
@Aperson-jx4mv 10 ай бұрын
OML THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. there are a couple of parallels in black sorrow and cure. (2:59 mentions the story bit) (in black sorrow the lyrics "where eyes reach, where your fingertips brush" and 0:15 - 0:30 "allow me, to the tips of your fingers, allow me, to the ends of your feet, dissolve me in your gaze)
@t0rror599
@t0rror599 10 ай бұрын
I dont think anyone here is okag lol TT
@Nougat_Nugget
@Nougat_Nugget 10 ай бұрын
@@Aperson-jx4mv STOPPPP, I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
@nai.thedev1l
@nai.thedev1l 10 ай бұрын
stoop with thisss sobbing
@chloekirstein4822
@chloekirstein4822 10 ай бұрын
So does that mean he was already planning on sacrificing himself even before black sorrow? 😭 PLS I JUST STOPPED CRYING A MOMENT AGO, I COULD FEEL IT COMING AGAIN
@ChibiUsaaaa
@ChibiUsaaaa 10 ай бұрын
3:23 you see the way this kiss was less aggressive than the other ones? He did that once he saw tills score going up and his going down. This was a more genuine kiss of relief and a kiss to say goodbye, it was softer than the others because Ivan was saying goodbye.
@shino_shuiro
@shino_shuiro 9 ай бұрын
Y'ALL GOTTA STOP THIS 😭😭😭
@myfarm2131
@myfarm2131 9 ай бұрын
The way u got me sobbing 😭😭😭 all I can think about are these two
@NotBasil
@NotBasil 9 ай бұрын
STOP THIS
@OCmillion
@OCmillion 9 ай бұрын
Screaming. Crying. Throwing Up
@tartaglia__1
@tartaglia__1 9 ай бұрын
PLEASE STOP
@MC_cyjh
@MC_cyjh 13 күн бұрын
Day 27 of listening to this everyday for a year
@tillsunbae
@tillsunbae 9 күн бұрын
r u ok
@MC_cyjh
@MC_cyjh 9 күн бұрын
@@tillsunbae obviously not 😃
@l0wkeyanintrovert
@l0wkeyanintrovert 10 ай бұрын
That fucking smile . . . That smile of relief is killing me. The way Ivan looked at Till with so much love and adoration just killed me
@losgatosontantop
@losgatosontantop 10 ай бұрын
ESTOY LLORANDO.
@katanaattack1421
@katanaattack1421 10 ай бұрын
When you noticed Ivan Squeezed the side of Till's neck to not block his airway
@violetshockflare9327
@violetshockflare9327 10 ай бұрын
Ivan saying “cheer up” (a direct reference to the recent comic with the flower that has younger Till and Ivan) to Till in his interview knowing full well what he was planning to do is so vile for us.
@violetshockflare9327
@violetshockflare9327 10 ай бұрын
Also, very obsessed with the choice to switch Till’s outfit from white -> black and Ivan’s outfit from black -> white considering how their roles and actions got swapped. Till became grief stricken over Mizi and didn’t really fight against the aliens the way he usually did. Then you have Ivan, who was usually consistent in his performances and very obedient in regards to following rules, making the active choice to become “unpredictable” in the way Till usually was.
@toastchildart
@toastchildart 10 ай бұрын
@@violetshockflare9327 you're so so right omg
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
thank you for this analysis I will throw up now thanks
@cina2218
@cina2218 10 ай бұрын
omg where do i read the comics?
@violetshockflare9327
@violetshockflare9327 10 ай бұрын
@@cina2218 They're on the official twitter or the community tab! Usually kind people will try to translate them in comments and replies, but I usually look into certain wording on some parts myself.
@hikari_700
@hikari_700 13 күн бұрын
Why is the song so good. I cry myself to sleep everytime I hear it but I can't stop it PLEASE.
@queenidragon4489
@queenidragon4489 10 ай бұрын
can we just talk about how much emotion Ivans eyes had at 3:40 normally his eyes don't have highlights which makes him feel inhumane but as soon as he realizes he's actually going to die his eyes become more human
@Haz3l.Sa1
@Haz3l.Sa1 10 ай бұрын
I read a theory that his eyes finally lit up only after he realized his plan worked and Till would have a chance to win and be safe and live- now I'm crying-
@user-bp8tt3sq2x
@user-bp8tt3sq2x 10 ай бұрын
I mean the first time we see Ivan he scored a 90 but in this round he only scored a 70 he definitely sacrificed himself for Till
@aerrrrrr
@aerrrrrr 10 ай бұрын
@@Haz3l.Sa1yeah i was thinking that was probably the case too. if i loved someone as much as ivan did i wouldn’t be scared to die. i’d be happy that i was able to get the person i love to live
@Yoirea
@Yoirea 9 ай бұрын
That small and tender kiss at 3:23 is such a painful yet beautiful detail. It feels like a last declaration of pure love, a goodbye and confession at the same time. I teared up at that moment.
@Alpz_m__
@Alpz_m__ 8 ай бұрын
I notice too! 😭
@crowquettic
@crowquettic 8 ай бұрын
if i've counted properly , it looks like ivan gave till 3 kisses ?
@zuki_gnj
@zuki_gnj 8 ай бұрын
​@@crowquettic5 times actually- 3:07 3:11 3:14 3:19 (I'm assuming that this is a kiss-) 3:23
@crowquettic
@crowquettic 8 ай бұрын
@@zuki_gnj AAA THANK YOU !! i see what you mean , thank you random protagonist !
@zuki_gnj
@zuki_gnj 8 ай бұрын
@@crowquettic I've watched this scene too much, I guess that's why I noticed immediately😭. Anyway you're welcome fellow Ivantill shipper! (I'm assuming you're one🙏)
@Madisongrayy
@Madisongrayy 7 ай бұрын
Stoppp, the way Ivan’s expression softens when he spits blood😭😭
@xivering
@xivering 6 ай бұрын
STP ITTTT
@Fromthestart123
@Fromthestart123 6 ай бұрын
Bros just glad that his plan worked sucessfully of sacrificing himself for someone he loves 😭😭
@InsufferableHumanBeing
@InsufferableHumanBeing 6 ай бұрын
BROOOO A TEAR APPEARED WHEN HE REALIZED HIS PLAN SUCCEEDED (WHEN HE GETS SHOT AND SPITS BLOOD, WHEN HIS GAZE SOFTENS) HOW COME I ONLY KNEW ABT THIS KNOW AGHHHHHHHH, I THOUGHT THE ONLY ONE WHO CRIED WAS TILL. TURNS OUT THEY BOTH CRIED😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@InsufferableHumanBeing
@InsufferableHumanBeing 6 ай бұрын
Count your days, Vivinos... ☹☹☹☹
@dokjalost
@dokjalost 5 ай бұрын
SHUT UP IM CRYING JST FOR THAT SCENE
@DarkHowlerz
@DarkHowlerz 6 күн бұрын
The whole Alien Stage story is heart-wrenching..
@Its_Naomi01
@Its_Naomi01 2 ай бұрын
Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. I WATCHED THIS FOR LIKE THE 30TH TIME IM CRYING HELP
@Ray_Ray-hg9sh
@Ray_Ray-hg9sh 2 ай бұрын
how do you feel about the final round
@catbutonyoutube424
@catbutonyoutube424 2 ай бұрын
Real hes 100% alive I just got married to him a few weeks ago 🙏
@simmy_ot
@simmy_ot 2 ай бұрын
IVAN'S ALIVE TRUST
@julianadelosreyes7518
@julianadelosreyes7518 Ай бұрын
Till and Ivan ALIVE! yet in heaven :3
@user-zq4bt7un9e
@user-zq4bt7un9e Ай бұрын
hola
@jani7918
@jani7918 10 ай бұрын
everyone's saying that ivan wanted to take till to the afterlife with him (as per the choking) but it seemed more like he was trying to distract till from their scores
@vivvid_ly9764
@vivvid_ly9764 10 ай бұрын
THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE WTF
@leenaa.
@leenaa. 10 ай бұрын
THATS WHAT I EAS THINKING
@_mycherie
@_mycherie 10 ай бұрын
Why would he wanna distract him from the score? /gen
@leenaa.
@leenaa. 10 ай бұрын
@@_mycherie probably so he doesn't realize Ivan's bouta die
@graychuchu
@graychuchu 10 ай бұрын
YES, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT! Or that he wanted to at least make him unconscious so that Till wouldn't have to see him pass
@1987_wav
@1987_wav 10 ай бұрын
Ok but nobody talking about Till’s vocals???????? He had already shown a more soft vocal in Clematis but THIS 😭 he sounds so tired and broken Edit: Also the fact that Ivan sounds so composed in comparison to Black sorrow where he lowkey snapped at the end, He was so sure of what he was about to do, bro I cannot with this Both voice actors were on a mission to DESTROY us
@irazzx._1312
@irazzx._1312 10 ай бұрын
Hearing Till not singing violently and more to soft voice is just so..🥹 bit to add that Till look really dead in his eyes,he really had enough of this things(he even accept ivan choked him and not even fights back😭)
@Niko-uc2nq
@Niko-uc2nq 10 ай бұрын
Especially at 2:48 I keep listening to it on loop it’s really a change from the past round
@halcyon.x
@halcyon.x 10 ай бұрын
right!! i love akugetsu’s voice so much
@1987_wav
@1987_wav 10 ай бұрын
@@irazzx._1312FR, ngl for a second there I really though that Ivan was going to make both of them die together
@irazzx._1312
@irazzx._1312 10 ай бұрын
@@1987_wav THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO!💀
@NaomiT-l9q
@NaomiT-l9q 13 сағат бұрын
The kiss at the very end was just so impactful. Seriously! The fact that Ivan was willing to sacrifice his life to save Till's... oh my gosh- Im crying!!!
@user-co7ip5it6w
@user-co7ip5it6w 10 ай бұрын
틸 점수높은거 확인하고 다정하게 키스하는거 미쳤나. 그때까지도 틸은 당연히 자기가 질 줄 알고 있었겠지. 이반 팬들이 압도적으로 많으니까. 그래서 목이 졸리는 순간까지도 자기가 진 줄 알고 죽을 준비하는데 틸 눈치못채게 이반은 총 맞으면서도 놔주질 않았고 나중에 틸이 이반 쓰러진 거 보고 상황파악하는게 맴찢임. 마지막 순간에서야 틸은 이반의 수 많은 배려 중 하나를 알아챘겠지..쓰발 너무 슬퍼...
@gh1234_
@gh1234_ 10 ай бұрын
ㅠㅠ해석 너무 슬퍼요ㅠ
@현채빈-f3j
@현채빈-f3j 10 ай бұрын
ㅠㅠ
@this_is_sangcom
@this_is_sangcom 10 ай бұрын
가슴이 오억오천갈래로 찢어져~~~
@user-lb9ff8hi8i
@user-lb9ff8hi8i 6 ай бұрын
​@@this_is_sangcom오조오억 갈래로 찢어져 ㅠㅠ
@2enyu
@2enyu 5 ай бұрын
제발요 이게 자해지 씨발... 오열중...
@누이-d7k
@누이-d7k 10 ай бұрын
이반이 갑자기 마이크를 던진게 아니라 틸이 중간에 노래를 멈춰버려서 행동한거였네요;; 가사랑 노래가 나와서 놓칠 뻔 했는데 틸이 중간에 노래하기를 멈추고 죽으려 한다는 걸 알자마자 그걸 저지 하려고 바로 행동 한 듯...
@할아버지-g6t
@할아버지-g6t 10 ай бұрын
과거에 자기랑 도망치기로 해놓고 튄거에 대한 복수일까요 죽고싶은대로 안놔둔다는
@watzmaname
@watzmaname 10 ай бұрын
오히려 눈 뜨지말라고 붙잡은거 같아 보이기도 하구요..
@토야-x6q
@토야-x6q 9 ай бұрын
2:50 미친 그러네요 분명 애들 노래 부를때 입모양 움직이는데 노래자채는 나오지만 영상에 틸이 노래 안부르고 멈춤거임;; 그래서 그 타이밍에 바로 이반이 살릴려고 마이크 바닥에 던지고 표 수 확인해가면서 목졸랐던거였음.. 애초에 미지 그렇게되고 틸 가사도 그렇고 표정이나 애 걍 살생각이 없어보임 틸만을 바라보고 있던 이반이 그걸 과연 몰랐을까? 표가 어케되는 이반이 걍 확실하게 대신 죽을 방법을 선택했고 이반은 틸 없이는 살 의미가 없다는 말이되버림... 더 맘 아픈건 이반이 어떤 행동을하던 목이 졸려와도 살생각 없던 틸이 평온하듯이 눈을 감고 있었단거임 ㅜㅜ
@LUINYANG
@LUINYANG 4 ай бұрын
와…
@aring.82
@aring.82 14 күн бұрын
아 님때매 또 울게됐잔아요ㅠㅠㅠ
@erikaperez8665
@erikaperez8665 10 ай бұрын
What I noticed, what I understood and how I interpreted this. 1.- In the first seconds of this round we hear the beatings of a heart while we watch different moments of Tills life and the experiments that he has endured, almost like he is watching his life pass in front of his eyes. He expects to die at the end of this round and when his actual face is revealed it shows how everything he has gone through is finally taking a toll on him (of course this happens after his reason to live is no where to be found, without Mizi he doesn’t see a reason to move forward). 2.- When he starts singing and the picture behind him shows we can notice the differences between his personality now and how it was back when mizi was “alive”, he is clearly boring the audience as they all look at him with an unimpressed gaze (also, he is competing against a fan favorite). And the phrase “ I don’t want to let you go” makes reference to mizi. Every single line he sings and almost every memory makes reference to her and to her death, Till genuinely thinks he is dead without her. 3.-Then we get the first and only memory of Ivan. From Till’s perspective we get that both of them got into a fight when they were kids and the gaze that Ivan used to look at Till is rather…. Sadistic Unbothered?. I think this is the perception that Till has of Ivan, he isn’t able to read him and therefore has always thought Ivan was annoying him for the fun of it. This scene shifts to a memory of Ivan, as he finds Till knocked out in the karaoke bar. 4.- It’s clear to see the parallel between both memories, the only thing that makes a difference is the way that Ivan looks at Till, his eyes are sparkling, as he is looking at his beloved. 5.- This parallel between scenes shows us that Till doesn’t actually know about Ivan’s feeling for him and that he has always interpreted them as hatred or dismissive, in the other hand, Ivan actually looks at Till lovingly in every memory of himself, he even has the permission to take of the collar of Till. (I don’t think every human can take off the collar of everyone else, but Ivan CAN. This makes me wonder if he is the one who usually saves till and takes care of him, to the point that the guardians have ALLOWED him to do so). 6.-Ivan lyrics also makes reference to Till in every moment. “Even if your cold words carve scars beneath my eyes…” this clearly makes reference to the way Till treats Ivan (which I assume is not pleasant, as Till is almost unaware of his existence). For example: In a community post we see Till complaining about Ivan wishing he would go away, he thinks that Ivan’s presence is making Mizi go away. Ivan just states that Mizi never plays with him, the one that does so is Ivan. 7.- Is almost as if Mizi takes the place of Ivan in every memory of Till, that’s the level of obsession Till has of Mizi. 8.- I wouldn’t be surprised if Ivan was constantly devastated from the things Tills says. This lack of acknowledgement forces Ivan to do drastic things like getting in a physical fight with Till and sadly this is the ONLY memory Till has of Ivan (paragraph 3) so this drastic measures actually work. 9.- The next scene reflects what actually Ivan wants to be noticed, the looks of affection he gives, the gentleness. Nonetheless, the only thing that gets a reacting from Till are the things Ivan doesn’t like (dramatic gestures). And I think Ivan doesn’t really like the grand gestures because of his judgment of Sua and her decision to die for Mizi. (The ultimate sacrifice just for the sake of being remembered). 10.- I want to make another point, in round 3 we can see a flash back of a red flower crown flying past Ivan and Till going after it. I think what happened is that Mizi made this flower crown for Sua, the flower crown flew away and till wanted to get it back for Mizi (who wanted it for Sua) Mizi and Till go into the home of an alien flower (also shown in the memories) and the flower eats this flower crown, making Till try and fight with the alien plant to get it back for Mizi, Till ends up getting hurt and Ivan just watches from the back. (This is what I can deduce with round 3 flashbacks). In this round we see another flashback of that same day (maybe) where Ivan is watching the plant form the back and one where he is touching its teeth, I think either Ivan calmed down the plant or he managed to get the flower crown from its mouth without getting hurt, whatever happened it culminated on Ivan getting Tills wound treated (Mizi probably fled the scene or trusted Ivan to take care of Tills, as they were close friends even if Tills doesn’t seem to recall that). 11.- Then Ivan is seen caressing Tills wounded face in a hospital and finally Tills running away from their attempted escape. This is even more devastating as we can now interpret their escape as Ivan’s way of saving Till for the millionth time, expecting to be saved at the same time, expecting Till to be grateful and running away with him because maybe, just maybe, Till will care enough about both of them to move forward and finally acknowledge the sacrifices Ivan constantly makes for him, but alas, Till runs away and decides their fate. 12.- We see a glimpse of real life Till being depressed as Ivan pours his heart out in the chorus. “In your gaze where I’m seen…” he doesn’t even look at Ivan in the memories nor in real life. Till cannot see the suffering in Ivan, and Ivan just sees the suffering of Till. Ivan was never seen, every glimpse of his memory he longs for the gaze of Till, but he never acquires it. 13.- “Face to face we dance…” Ivan keeps looking at Till, trying to make it about them. “With our story…” Till looks in front of him thinking about Mizi. He stops singing and Ivan directly starts his plan. Even when he KNOWS Ivan is heading towards him, Till is not bothered to look at him. 3:04. Until he has to. 14.- And for the first time the roles change, The one with sparking eyes is Till and Ivan just looks at him without anything. The first kiss they shared and Till is still unable to read Ivan. For him, this came out of nowhere 3:15. His surprise changes to alert when Ivan grabs him by the throat. Ivan isn’t even hurting him. 15.- Ivan is concerned for the lack of resistance that Till shows, Ivan has fell in love with the resilience and defiance of Tills personality and now it’s nowhere to be found. The numbers change and Ivan’s plan works, he starts being killed for the “aggression” he is committing. Even when he is dying, till is not looking at him. Finally he lets go, as he ensures his loved one will survive. And as he falls his last picture is Till finally looking at him. Ivan smiles as a last goodbye, the smile is enough to make Till understand everything he hadn’t noticed before. There is no people, no Mizi, no aliens, no cameras and no microphones. It’s only Ivan, as the spotlight focuses on them, Till realizes he has lost the only thing that was constant, the reason he has actually managed to survive this long. Meanwhile, Ivan is now the thing he despised, he has done this last grand gesture to make Till look at him (paragraph 9). He has died in what he longed all along. Maybe it was never meant to be. Edit: OMG GUYS YOU ARE SO NICE.
@proudtiger2538
@proudtiger2538 10 ай бұрын
YOU CAN COOK ✍️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
@ILLBEWAITING-f3b
@ILLBEWAITING-f3b 10 ай бұрын
You explained everything so well, thank youu 😭
@ca-miura8509
@ca-miura8509 10 ай бұрын
niceee
@metallickandy
@metallickandy 10 ай бұрын
😭
@mina_moon5687
@mina_moon5687 10 ай бұрын
You explained it so perfectly, no words. 🙏❤️
@GuGuGu06
@GuGuGu06 28 күн бұрын
틸 성우분 노래 너무 잘부르신다.. 목소리 떨리는 디테일 미쳤어
@jiyeon7852
@jiyeon7852 12 сағат бұрын
악월 성우님 사랑해요!!!!!❤❤❤
@tdf_worldkey6666
@tdf_worldkey6666 10 ай бұрын
Another thing to point put is that Till isnt chained any longer. All his life we see him chained up but the aliens recognize his vulnerability and weakness due to the missing/loss of mizi. His last fight is when the alien forces him to see her poster but after that hes put in the position of a pet. Docile and complacent. His hair is tamed. Hes collard and made presentable no longer the fighter he once was. He even plays the part of the duet onlt singing his part and letting ivan have his. Hes just a far cry from who hes been his entire life On the other side of that eveyone recognizes Ivan's sacrifice for till out of love but i think its that combined with the previous. Ivan loved to see Till's reactions he loved the attention he got when he provoked him and just in genral he liked his spirit and the death of that with the loss for mizi was just another blow to Ivan's one-sided love. Theyre singing to two different partners in two different states. Grief and acceptance. Song is straight fire too.
@ain6782
@ain6782 10 ай бұрын
His collar didn't explode, he just got shot so there's still chance he can be saved since he is also valuable to those alien. IVAN IS ALIVE (copium💀) Edit: Everyone in replies is TOTALLY SANE (me included) 😊😊😊
@Juliet.offcial
@Juliet.offcial 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!! Hes not like certain angel we know like kaworu!!
@daley.doodles
@daley.doodles 10 ай бұрын
I like the way you think (I'm delusional)
@mooniekaki
@mooniekaki 10 ай бұрын
I'm living for this
@hairytesticles1939
@hairytesticles1939 10 ай бұрын
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
@SB19andAtinWorldDomination
@SB19andAtinWorldDomination 10 ай бұрын
I'M GONNA GASLIGHT MYSELF WITH THIS IDEA TYSM 😭
@sorayuu8134
@sorayuu8134 8 ай бұрын
For some reason Ivan kissing Till is absolutely obliterating my heart, cause Ivan knows that his feelings aren't truly reciprocated, but he still kisses the one he is devoted to with such passion before sacrificing himself for that person - super painful 😭
@Meowzers_3
@Meowzers_3 8 ай бұрын
That’s why Ivan’s my favorite😔
@Spideyhwa
@Spideyhwa 8 ай бұрын
Ivantill kiss at the cost of ivan 😕
@전혜성-x4i
@전혜성-x4i 7 ай бұрын
NOOOOOO I'M GONNA KAY EM ES 😭😭😭
@ducky_2309
@ducky_2309 7 ай бұрын
It's ok mentally they're alive and well + married
@Meowzers_3
@Meowzers_3 7 ай бұрын
@@ducky_2309 my dreams are just dreams😫😭😭
@safachaieb2725
@safachaieb2725 Ай бұрын
Starting the new year with this banger ❤❤😭
@Carmaelaæ
@Carmaelaæ Ай бұрын
Lmao‼️thought I was the only one. Glad Im not alone 😅
@safachaieb2725
@safachaieb2725 Ай бұрын
@carmela1273 I literally opened it at midnight to listen to it before going to sleep and then re-listened after waking up 😂
@mochi0193
@mochi0193 9 ай бұрын
As long as Ivan isn't shot in the heart, I still have faith he's alive.
@cutie9
@cutie9 8 ай бұрын
He bled through his mouth bro that’s internal bleeding. They already wanted him dead so they arent gonna treat him. I hate to say this but most likely he’s dead. I pray to everyone he isn’t.
@n9_xiu
@n9_xiu 8 ай бұрын
@@cutie9 nuh uh he's chillin with sua, hyuna and mizi guys trust ☹☹
@nelnyann
@nelnyann 8 ай бұрын
​@@cutie9HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT UR MAKING ME LOSE MY SANITY I SWEAR HES ALIVE GRRRR SNARLS
@enclinker7951
@enclinker7951 8 ай бұрын
@@cutie9if he’s throwing up blood then he’s probably got shot in the lungs too ;________;
@cutie9
@cutie9 8 ай бұрын
@@enclinker7951 yeah that’s what I meant I mean it doesn’t necessarily have to be lungs to be fatal just the fact he’s bleeding out from his mouth means he’s gonna die soon but never have I ever hoped I was wrong Pls be alive PLS PLEASE
@undapy8799
@undapy8799 10 ай бұрын
ivan wanted their round to go the way mizi and sua's duet did, as equal partners giving their all to live because that is respect for the person you love, but because till refused to sing their harmonies as we hear in the cure audio, it shows how ivan and till were never equal, especially on their footing in love like mizi and sua were. with that, ivan lets go of his fantasy duet and fight for life and chooses for till. the decision was unequal from the beginning. “Someone has to leave first. This is a very old story. There is no other version of this story.”
@nanny_uhh
@nanny_uhh 10 ай бұрын
Well, Sua apparently didn't sing with all of her talent so Mizi could win, but you are right, in my opinion Ivan wanted to do it in an equal standing, but Till was too tired and desmotivated, so Ivan decided to go with plan B and lose points while confessing his love, it wasn't enough though since he was the fan's favorite and could still turn the points around so he decided to get eliminated through "harming" his opponent, which he just faked it 😭😭😭
@SuperBlackReality
@SuperBlackReality 10 ай бұрын
@@nanny_uhh but he lost, the end score was Til - 89, Ivan - 70. Only after that he starter "choking", it was there more as a metaphor of his character
@nanny_uhh
@nanny_uhh 10 ай бұрын
@@SuperBlackReality I'm my opinion, the public could still turn it around, that's why he resorted to it, since he's the number one fan favorite, not that he's the one with the higher points 🥴
@rhythm0408
@rhythm0408 10 ай бұрын
2:41 min the way ivan picks till up and then rubs his face against tills is just so beautifully animated. Considering that humanity is being treated like pets and animals, expecially cats, often rub themselves against people they like, is a nice comparison that ivan has subconsciously accepted this way of living. This also Shows in the fact that he played with the rules but didnt really break them to save till. Other than other characters, who are breaking the rules, ivan didnt break them. In his eyes, self sacrifice was the only option because his mind was limited because of the rules he subconsciously adapted to
@eshal1924
@eshal1924 10 ай бұрын
YESSS wait thats so good. tbh i feel that out of all of them, ivan is one of the best at adapting without becoming bound to the rules mentally - he knows what they are and knows how to manipulate them in a way that uses the rules for his own outcome
@Ms.Matcha-u2y
@Ms.Matcha-u2y 10 ай бұрын
OH NOOOOO NOT THE CAT BEHAVIOR???? IM GONNA BURST A VEIN??? dear lord it was just so intimate and I didn't even understand why.. you opened my eyes thank you
@cynoXx0
@cynoXx0 6 күн бұрын
omfg. i just rewatched this with headphones and IT SOUNDS SO GOOD. i wasn’t expecting it to sound any better, but whenever i hear ivan/till’s heart beating, it feels like mine is, too. 💔
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