Vlog 4: Installing sound-deadening adhesive mats into the Toyota Proace van conversion

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Vandemonium

Vandemonium

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In this video I take advantage of the brief spell of milder weather to make a start on the campervan conversion, installing sound-deadening self-adhesive mats onto the side walls, to dampen down the "clangyness" of the walls.
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@floydbertagnolli944
@floydbertagnolli944 4 ай бұрын
I like that you research your projects & your thoroughness in the improvements. Well done. 👍
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@michaelst.george6214
@michaelst.george6214 5 жыл бұрын
I heard you say to your self when you were examining the window "Don't drop it, you idiot!". I say the same thing but it is usually followed by "I told you not to drop it, you idiot!". :-)
@rodrigoalarcontello3361
@rodrigoalarcontello3361 11 ай бұрын
Those big box structural elements give these vans their strength but at the same time are source of irritating booming resonances, it would be nice to fill them with some structural foam to improve rigidity and eliminate cavity resonances. Also, you can use some structural adhesive in the flange surfaces of the different pieces of the sheetmetal structure (if you don't have access to special chassis repair adhesives, the one that they use to glue windshields is the best, just don't use regular silicone). This increases contact surface between panels and has several good effects: it seals air/dust pathways, makes the structure work as a whole, elliminates some creaks that are produced normally when the structure is stressed. The manufacturers currently use these techniques to improve NVH and crashworthiness in the latest models.
@icebox344
@icebox344 6 жыл бұрын
Love your surgical approach, creating a different angle from others I’ve seen. Merry Christmas
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Merry Christmas!
@nairbllebpmac4179
@nairbllebpmac4179 6 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying this channel David. Thank you so much for sharing with us. I always get excited when you upload another video; this channel and Crusing the Cut. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Happy Christmas and best wishes for 2018!
@klayofthemystics
@klayofthemystics 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the late eighties when did my van just about the only adhesive was Contact Cement, Which, by the way, put off some nasty fumes. A filter mask really did nothing to help. So lots of fumes, confined area, hot summer day, Ended up falling out of the van, when finished, violently ill, and a three day headache. The amount of brain cells I lost probably went a long way to explain many of my life decisions in later years.
@Jorrow.
@Jorrow. 5 жыл бұрын
I know you have finished so ins't much help now but that bundle of cables on the left hand side at the back are for trailer wiring and will only be needed if you are fitting a towbar. But if you need 12v the big yellow cable is a 40amp 12v supply for caravans. It just needs a 40amp maxi fuse putting in the empty fuse holder under the flap where the battery is by the drivers feet.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, long ago done but that's a very useful tip for anyone else looking to do one of these so thank you!
@MissScrappy
@MissScrappy 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this is bringing back happy memories of doing our 1985 longed Chevy van conversion. We love David!
@tanjaontour2932
@tanjaontour2932 3 жыл бұрын
It all seems so simple to start with... How true!
@lockedin60
@lockedin60 4 жыл бұрын
Am a little behind in the following but been watching the early stages of your motorvan camper remodel. I have been giggling up a storm. It very well could be the ill effects of the late hour way past a decent bed time. But since I am an old retail retiree who gives a plug nickel when I take a shut-eye!.
@dianemorris6904
@dianemorris6904 4 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. The noise in some of the older trucks we have driven over the years could have benefited from those squares
@rolandwolf1327
@rolandwolf1327 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, the joys of insulating a van. I like the quality of the paint job even in places where a customer would normally never look. It will be interesting to see how you do the insulation.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I've started on it and it's quite the fiddly process - a combination of Celotex sheets and "loft"-type insulation rolls (not fibreglass)
@The_Arby
@The_Arby 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see you doing more to the van David...Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year :-) Looking forward to seeing lots more of your videos in 2018 :-)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I've been buying loads of bits, none of which I can actually put in it but it makes me feel as if there's been progress! Cheers
@jayoneill1533
@jayoneill1533 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas David, and here’s to a successful new year with lots and lots or roving whether on land or sea!
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And to you.
@annettefournier9655
@annettefournier9655 6 жыл бұрын
My knees ached just watching you. Lol. Merry Christmas David.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, I creak every time I do a bit on the van, I have noticed!
@lewisgardner1660
@lewisgardner1660 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there Very good video as normal, have a good Christmas kind sir, looking forward to next video.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Best wishes to you too. Cheers
@stopneverstop
@stopneverstop 2 жыл бұрын
Those empty voids make great use for security boxes
@BeechSportBill
@BeechSportBill 4 жыл бұрын
Those wires on plastic plate are for lights for trailer
@RVgeeks
@RVgeeks 6 жыл бұрын
Love how meticulous you are... we're the same way... bothered by anything visually imperfect, even in places where they will be covered up and never seen again. But we do sometimes have to let that go, yes? ;-)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Through gritted teeth ;-)
@zaphodbeeblebrox2202
@zaphodbeeblebrox2202 Жыл бұрын
After the first blood, I was waiting for Vanbo: First Blood Part 2....
@kenpage1107
@kenpage1107 6 жыл бұрын
Nine or ten degrees, thats bloody freezing!!!, am watching with interest Dave, Ive just had to spend three months repairing my campervan, its come up great too, good luck with it, Ken.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I should have clarified that that's Celsius. Still not what I would class as warm though. Good to hear you sorted yours!
@kenpage1107
@kenpage1107 6 жыл бұрын
We use celcius here in Oz, thats freezing to us.lol.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes it is!
@projectt4587
@projectt4587 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas sir. From my experience, as it's pretty messy, you want to do the windows before the rest of the insulation otherwise you just end up with filings everywhere. Easier to sweep out before putting insulation in. Good luck and happy New year.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could but with the temperatures still sub-10C, I can't fit the windows because the adhesives want a warmer environment.
@GrahamA63
@GrahamA63 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Just for info - I used meths to degrease the panels on my old Dispatch. It worked well, it’s cheap and smells good...
@FoxCutter
@FoxCutter 5 жыл бұрын
Now that it's been a while and you've done a number of trips in the van, how well has the sound-deadeing and insulation worked out? Actually, a general followup video on the whole project might be interesting. Talking about how things have worked out in the long run, things you want to improve in the future and what you would do differently if you had the chance.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea! I'll try to do that over the summer.
@petersmith5199
@petersmith5199 6 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video. Merry Christmas. Ta.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - and to you.
@RJM_99
@RJM_99 6 жыл бұрын
Wishing you a happy Christmas, love the videos.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard; merry Christmas.
@bnadvornik
@bnadvornik 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a Ford Transit van that’s a bit rattle-y. Might need to get some of those silver panels.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
They do seem to change the tinny clanking to more of a solid clunk!
@alanbower1193
@alanbower1193 6 жыл бұрын
Good job. Merry Christmas David.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Alan, and to you.
@nmr6988
@nmr6988 2 жыл бұрын
Sound deadening properties are the single most important thing I look for in a home or in a van. If there's one thing that will ruin the Great Outdoors, it's people. People are noisy and obtrusive and they play loud crappy music that destroys the serenity and the sounds of nature. Unless you've been camping for 2 months from a desire to have some peace and quiet and solitude which is spoiled by a bunch of idiots, you may not be able to appreciate what I've said.
@MrBblhed
@MrBblhed 6 жыл бұрын
A few comments. First off Merry Christmas. On to the van stuff. That plastic sheet you removed is a vapor barrier that is installed to prevent the back of whatever panel is on the door does not rot or collect mold from back side, I recall you saying you were going to install vapor barrier so no big deal as long as you make sure you do that. I don't know if you are done with all the sound dampener but if you are not you can see how well it works by knocking on the panel with your knuckle before and after you apply the damper to hear the difference instantly. Finally don't forget the front doors and the floors, people doing camper conversions forget that the thing has a cab and that is where they will be sitting while driving down the noisy road.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes, there will be a replacement vapour barrier. And the sound panels do indeed now "thud" instead of "twang". I haven't paid any attention to the cab yet though, 'tis true!
@johnnorris4467
@johnnorris4467 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas, David, and good luck with all your forthcoming ventures.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. Merry Christmas to you.
@johnbrookes2196
@johnbrookes2196 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a happy new year David. The vans looking good.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you - merry Christmas John.
@wildlifewalkswithcountryge749
@wildlifewalkswithcountryge749 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the project David, keep em coming! Wishing you a Merry Christmas.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm quite enjoying it albeit at my own gentle pace :-) Merry Christmas
@tche68
@tche68 6 жыл бұрын
Seasons gretings! The hole on then rear left column is to install the seat belt on the passengers version of your van. You can see the bolt to the hook above.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, that makes sense, of course. Good point!
@cjw2661
@cjw2661 6 жыл бұрын
Just an idea, when we did our van, we used the large holes in the doors/etc as cubbies. Just used insulation board in them and squared them out.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. I haven't got round to putting insulation in the doors yet. Cheers for the tip.
@gillywild
@gillywild 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas David :) maybe order some knee pads?
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas! I'm hoping the knees will toughen up!
@DrBurkstrom
@DrBurkstrom 6 жыл бұрын
Nah. Get some kneepads and you'll wonder how you ever did without. Makes an amazing difference!
@joeclarke9782
@joeclarke9782 6 жыл бұрын
Good job. I think the rear electrical connection is an inertial fuel cutoff switch (shuts fuel off in case of God forbid collision). I hope your insulation will still allow for access to the electrics. Merry Christmas
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
It seems as though I shall have to build in an access panel of some sort! Cheers
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think they come pre-wired for mobility use, so I doubt it's that.
@monicalifornia_
@monicalifornia_ 6 жыл бұрын
Great work. Very interesting.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Smudgie
@Smudgie 3 жыл бұрын
Great project, thanks for a great series of videos. Hope to be starting my own Proace project soon.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, have fun.
@the_useless_photographer
@the_useless_photographer 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's all finished now but one thing I learned from watching pro van conversions is never ever put loft type insulation inside the van....it acts like a sponge and will eventually rot your vehicle. That's why older campers rotted so quickly, manufacturers used fabric insulation because nothing else was invented.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 3 жыл бұрын
It can only act as a sponge if there’s water for it to soak up and no ventilation; here, with the impermeable vapour barrier preventing interior air moisture reaching it, there’s no damp.
@ziggymike1
@ziggymike1 6 жыл бұрын
Christmas greetings David. Joining from ctc! If your in Nottingham near the Trent and need a Mot or workshop space for any part of the build as a help out you are always welcome (bring biscuits for tea are the rules)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Well now.... workshop space you say?? I'm very much in need of a warm workshop space for a couple of days in order to install the windows. Any chance you could email me? Use workshopspaceneeded@vandemonium.co.uk :-)
@mischef18
@mischef18 6 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, santa has been and gone in NZ and still forgot my bike I asked for in 1965. Oh well all the best any way. Merry Christmas.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Shocking! What is Santa playing at?! Hope all's well over there. Cheers
@mischef18
@mischef18 6 жыл бұрын
Yes been struggling to believe in him anymore as he has missed quite a few things I have asked for over the year.
@cathrynbagley8005
@cathrynbagley8005 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see your progress - Merry Christmas
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cathryn - merry Christmas to you too!
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 6 жыл бұрын
vandemonium is very easy to follow.
@sylviapage8572
@sylviapage8572 6 жыл бұрын
That insulation job looks a bit overwhelming for me. Looking forward to the next instalment so I can see how you got on. Thanks.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I'm finding it quite calming and therapeutic, weirdly. Just taking my time, not rushing, sitting in the van cutting bits of insulation to fit!
@ianmedium
@ianmedium 6 жыл бұрын
When building these in great volume clipping that plastic tube with the cable in it to the side of the van is probably quicker than chasing it through the hole even accounting for the plastic tube cost. Most of the time it’s down to saving money! I am really looking forward to fitting the windows, you are a better man than me gungadin! I would not attempt it! Happy Christmas to you by the way! :)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that makes sense! Happy Christmas :-)
@one.of.two1969
@one.of.two1969 6 жыл бұрын
Have a good Christmas and New Year
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And you too :-)
@robertthornhill4379
@robertthornhill4379 6 жыл бұрын
good job david 8/10 bob in derby
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Ta
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
i have the lwb Peugeot expert version ..i fully converted it myself..these vans are as roomy as a vw transporter...i took out the engine and fully stripped it down and rebuilt it aswell...your right about the poptop too expensive...but there is an alternative which is the xlarge dometic sunroof...when fitted you can open it fully and stand up fully in the van if needed...the silent coat you got is a good choice on the body work and it does take out the rattles..by the way if you do decide to remove the double passenger seat you can get a swivel plate for the base and as for a single seat for passenger get another drivers seat as they fit on the passenger side...the lower bulk head is removable and its bolted and heavy glued in...
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
The lower bulk head is staying in place. Good tip about the seat, cheers.
@joecrachemontange4613
@joecrachemontange4613 6 жыл бұрын
glad tidings from aroostook county maine.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas to you too :-)
@SilverVoxMusic
@SilverVoxMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one David. Happy Christmas.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers, and to you.
@tinniswood2577
@tinniswood2577 6 жыл бұрын
Salutations to you, don't work too hard over Christmas and may Santa bring you the faux leopard print dashboard cover for the van. :-)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Oooh, that sounds lovely!
@DriveLongRoad
@DriveLongRoad 6 жыл бұрын
The hole at 3:45 is a great security feature. You can safely hide important documents or cash in the ground. No burglar would ever find that.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, good idea
@EnglishVeteran
@EnglishVeteran 6 жыл бұрын
No, they’d just steal the van!
@estherkalkbrenner5222
@estherkalkbrenner5222 6 жыл бұрын
A propos sound deadening. I just learned that there is such device as a sound deadener for car diesel heater systems. And they do a very neat job. Price is around 150€ and they come with different diameters for various tube systems.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank you. That said, I'm going to be using a propane-based (externally vented) heater largely because they are substantially cheaper than the diesel ones and don't require dropping the diesel tank to tap into it, which would be outside my scope of capabilities.
@estherkalkbrenner5222
@estherkalkbrenner5222 6 жыл бұрын
Vandemonium these are for the ventilation pipes blowing the warm air in. So in case your propane heater is abit too loud, maybe this could be a hint, in case the warm air gets directed throughany kind of tube
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, that sounds extra interesting then, I will have a look. Cheers.
@petermastenbroek5264
@petermastenbroek5264 6 жыл бұрын
Progress may be a bit slower than you'd expected, mainly due to the weather conditions, but there's progress nevertheless. Hope to see that you'll have managed to put your windows in in the next vlog. Merry Christmas, Peter.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas. Alas, I have to disappoint you - I've just finished filming the next vlog and the windows are definitely on hold for the moment while the weather's chilly. However, I may make up for it by cutting the hole for the roof vent instead!
@petermastenbroek5264
@petermastenbroek5264 6 жыл бұрын
That's already good enough to start with, and I'll be happy to watch that vlog when it's publiced.
@gilb6982
@gilb6982 6 жыл бұрын
If i am not mistaken the wire thing in the back is a safety cut off fuel switch so it need to be solid to the chassis
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You're not the first person to suggest that but it doesn't look like any kind of switch. Nevertheless I have decided to leave it in situ.
@stacieodstacieod9555
@stacieodstacieod9555 6 жыл бұрын
Before doing any thing with the Van wiring. You need to check the Van manual if you have one or go online as I am sure there would be a manual online. I am enjoying the Van videos.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I doubt I'll do any alterations to it, other than maybe re-route a bit. Can't find a manual online, unfortunately.
@Adampeterdale
@Adampeterdale 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you won't see them when it's coverd up but you will always know it's there eating into your brain untill one night after lying awake for hours staring at the ceiling thinking about it you jump up and attack the walls of your van with a hatchet... ripping the uneven demonic things out. 😂
@leechamberlain1273
@leechamberlain1273 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas Dave, tip for that sticky cover you found , a heat sourse would help soften the glue , something like a hairdryer on hot . Cheers Paul
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea, I might still try that to get the excess off. Cheers
@Nick23Wood
@Nick23Wood 6 жыл бұрын
You should replace the vapour barrier you removed - probably using reflectix.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Fear not, there will be a vapour barrier. Not Reflectix but a similar material.
@Nick23Wood
@Nick23Wood 6 жыл бұрын
excellent - I was using Reflectix as a generic name - a useful term from over the pond :)
@DriveLongRoad
@DriveLongRoad 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Holiday, äh, Christmas! :))
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@commonsense592
@commonsense592 5 жыл бұрын
Things have change in my day we would use a spray on putty type insulation. Your system looks easier to use but I can't see it working because it doesn't cover all the surfaces. But with your insulation and then panels covering everything I don't think it will matter anyway.
@bishopbeesley9790
@bishopbeesley9790 6 жыл бұрын
Rattly bits are part of design - supports door outer panel without risking leaving a witness/mark -your tape should be good. The drainage holes in bottom must remain open otherwise door will rot out (water will get in at top of door)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, I've left the drainage holes clear!
@garrystacey7018
@garrystacey7018 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍🏻
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jdeso3
@jdeso3 6 жыл бұрын
You should clean the surfaces with denatured alcohol that will clean off the grease and oil and leave nothing behind and it safe on the paint
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks. The WD40 degreaser product is supposed to do exactly that!! I won't buy it again though.
@ronnath1581
@ronnath1581 6 жыл бұрын
Below zero? Wow, we haven't seen that yet here in Iowa. And it needs to get to 9 or 10 to apply your stuff? Man, that's still bitter cold here in the upper midwest. Oh, wait.......never mind. (Merry Christmas, David)
@Runenaldo
@Runenaldo 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Nath I'm quite sure he means zero Celsius or 32 Fahrenheit.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
It's turned mild(ish) but still only 9C
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, C not F
@cjw2661
@cjw2661 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing at first. Then remembered we use fahrenheit here in the states. We have gotten down to 15° f here in Michigan.
@rassman48
@rassman48 6 жыл бұрын
What a strange sound insulation. I'm guessing it is like damping a drum with a piece of sticky tape as they used to have to do for live work in a TV studio, otherwise the drums drown everything else out.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
That's probably the best analogy I've heard, yes. It's exactly that. No so much insulation as damping.
@Kiwionwing
@Kiwionwing 6 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting
@grayeagleswolves
@grayeagleswolves 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas David Good show I do have to ask a Question do you know that the Spray Can of Insulation would work Fantastic in the van for any and all projects
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
You'd need many, many cans of spray foam. I did look at the spray foam kits which come in a two-contained mix but you need an ambient temperature of 16C and the cans have to be kept above 21C, none of which I can easily achieve at present. Also, there can be an issue with expanding foam bending out the metal of the van if you overfill any small areas. Not as simple as it might seem!
@FrazzledPup
@FrazzledPup 6 жыл бұрын
"Don't stick before I'm ready, don't stick before I'm ready..." Are we still talking about a van conversion? ;) Merry Christmas
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely a van conversion!
@FrazzledPup
@FrazzledPup 6 жыл бұрын
hehe couldn't resist being just a bit naughty
@MuddyBootz
@MuddyBootz 6 жыл бұрын
Where you fitted the sound insulation on the sides.....will you be cutting some of it out when you fit the windows???
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Well no, that would be bizarre. I haven't put the panels onto any parts that I'll be cutting out.
@user-lx6bl2wd8g
@user-lx6bl2wd8g 6 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the door at 14 mins, I wondered whether you had given any thought to additional rust prevention.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Not really, it's all in very good condition with no visible rust and the paint chips don't go through to the metal either.
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
for floor and roof insulation use 3m thinsulate or the equivalent
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I'm using Celotex on the roof and a radiant barrier with air gap on the floor.
@trainguy4861
@trainguy4861 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and being from the US we call it a stove and how did it become to be called a hob ( sp)?
@zogworth
@zogworth 3 жыл бұрын
Here the stove would mean the whole thing, oven and hob all in one. It's comes from the old English habban or to hold. On old fireplaces in kitchens there would be a ledge or shelf where you put things to keep warm that was called the hob. As the pots etc were held there. The word has just been carried over to mean stove top.
@andyharding1514
@andyharding1514 6 жыл бұрын
can't you just take it to a friendly boatbuilder & get them to sprayfoam it like a narrowboat shell? :) I looked at doing a T4/T5 a few years back & the DVLA were notorious for not wanting to issue change of type (or whatever it's called) from van to camper. hope they're a bit more amenable these days!
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I did consider that but you have to do an awful lot of tedious masking off to stop the spray sticking to bits you don't want it to. Also, spray foam is not ideal in tight spots because it can expand to the point where it deforms the metal, and it's also impossible (effectively) to remove in case you need access. I wouldn't have wanted to pay for it to be done so I'd have done it myself and that's messy and requires quite warm ambient temperatures, which we don't currently have!
@davidoickle1778
@davidoickle1778 8 ай бұрын
"paper towel?" I thought the British called it "kitchen roll." Hey, I watch a lot of British TV shows.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 8 ай бұрын
Both!
@aaronhorn6849
@aaronhorn6849 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't considered a proper car project unless you sacrifice blood to the gods!!
@chrisdavison2022
@chrisdavison2022 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if those 'random' wires in the ducting, are for if the van was going to be a people carrier type vehicle? As I've heard, some manufacturers 'pre install' certain things down the production line 'just in case'...???
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Mmm, could be. I'm going to install an access panel, just in case.
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
use a layer of foil bubble wrap insulation, then a layer of dacron wadding,then another layer of foil bubble wrap insulation
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Foil bubble wrap has virtually no insulation value. Its only use is as a radiant barrier for which it requires an air gap, which would be negated if you stick any other materials onto the foil.
@fluffsipad7462
@fluffsipad7462 6 жыл бұрын
It might be a fuel cutoff switch with a reset button
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
OK, cheers
@White_Chapel
@White_Chapel 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David, love these videos 👍🏻 By any chance did you put any of the sound insulation under carpet or in the driver and passenger doors at the front of the van to reduce the road noise? I'm planning to start noise insulating my LWB peugeot in the summer and I'd love to know know how much of the noise insulation you used altogether? Cheers
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 2 жыл бұрын
It's not actually sound insulation as such, it's just to deaden the "boominess" you get from sheet metal panels. So no, none used in those locations.
@White_Chapel
@White_Chapel 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vandemonium Sorry, deadening/dampening is what I should have written there! I find the driver and passenger doors a bit boomy so I plan to do them, the barn doors at the back, the sliding doors at the sides, the roof and rear side panels. Would you have used 30 sheets altogether? I don't want to order too little, but also dont want to order too much as it's fairly expensive! Thanks again David 👍🏻
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm I don't remember exactly how many I used but I'm going to guess fewer than 30. Maybe 20? I can't really remember though, sorry
@White_Chapel
@White_Chapel 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vandemonium Cool, I was guessing that 30 would be ott so I'll start with 20 and go from there!! Thanks again👍🏻
@sparkyplug28
@sparkyplug28 6 жыл бұрын
I can see many places where my Vito looks like it has been made to keep noise down where the pro ace hasn’t even so it’s noisy as hell! Just started insulting myself
@annmcwilliams1230
@annmcwilliams1230 6 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you are going to put small wood burner in.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
No. It's really too tiny a van for that.
@annmcwilliams1230
@annmcwilliams1230 6 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you for taking the time to reply. Happy Christmas And love all your vlogs.
@rckchp
@rckchp 6 жыл бұрын
Seasons Greetings David. Small burners exist which are intended for small sailboat cabins, usually mounted on a bulked (wall). A few examples : www.charcoalheater.com/ , www.pinterest.com/pin/101753272811418504 , www.pinterest.com/pin/310818811775746896. But most are expensive and must be vented to outside for safety.....and probably overkill for your purposes unless you plan to camp up at John o' Groats during the winter. A small propane catalytic heater would do....but be sure crack a window a bit to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning. Please read this : www.cdc.gov/co/faqs.htm Best Regards, Rich A.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks. I'm aware of CO poisoning (I have two detectors on the boat) but I won't be installing a propane heater, at least not one that's internally vented. Probably getting a Propex HS2000.
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
use a heat gun to soften the silentcoat pads
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
They didn't need it, went on fine as they were.
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 6 жыл бұрын
Better to use spray foam insulation in cavities
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
In theory, yes but in practice maybe not. It can be messy and I've heard tales of it bulging out the metal if too much is used in a confined space, which could easily happen with a novice such as myself. For my purposes, better to use loft-style insulation which I can put in, pull out, re-work and get right. Foam would also either require multiple cans or a full-blown kit (and they need ambient temps of 16C or more as well as the canisters being heated to 21C+ which isn't terribly convenient, especially in winter)
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 6 жыл бұрын
You can buy Low Expansion Foam which wont bulge, plus they are normally fire safe too. Loft insulation is not as efficient.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
The low expansion foam doesn't expand enough (!), it would take gallons of the stuff. It tends to be more of an adhesive than an insulator. I'm aware the loft insulation isn't as good as an isolator but it's the best option for my purposes.
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
never use expanding foam..it can bulge your panels
@menonsans
@menonsans 6 жыл бұрын
Can I make a suggestion? Can' t the space b/w the inner and outer body panels (at 06:03) be used as a storage area of some kind? (It looked large enough on the video)
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. It is wide enough but I need / want to fill it with insulation to help keep the van warm in Spring / Autumn. Any space I deduct on the sides for extra storage is space lost for insulation.
@snappyfish
@snappyfish 6 жыл бұрын
Cut a cardboard template then mark round Celotex?
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that ... exactly what I started this morning! Cheers
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
silent coat all doors too
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I've done the doors.
@charlescain7962
@charlescain7962 6 жыл бұрын
The glued on sound deadening panel you removed to put sound deadening material in it's place????? Fluffs Ipad, might be right, that could be a fuel cut off, it should have sensor circuit that detects an accident, cuts off fuel, if no danger you push reset button and drive away, usually a wrecker driver knows how to find it, most owners don't read the manual or with a used vehicle the manual is gone.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
The glued on panel, if you mean the white stuff, was not sound deadening, it was a vapour barrier I think. It would have had no sound deadening qualities whatsoever.
@jasonj5345
@jasonj5345 6 жыл бұрын
Are you going to put camera Mount's in.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't even begun to consider that kind of element yet but I suppose a dashcam might be on the cards eventually.
@steveh4873
@steveh4873 6 жыл бұрын
How did that stuff work out?, was it any better driving it after? Thanks!
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't really tell because it was so long between driving it without and driving it with, plus I had a load of stuff in the back which was all rattling around as well so very hard to work out if the van walls were resonating less!!
@mortglickman3217
@mortglickman3217 6 жыл бұрын
What type of engine does the proace have?
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
See my first vlog
@colinracheljustpootling7468
@colinracheljustpootling7468 6 жыл бұрын
Not quite getting the sound deadening pads to be honest. Van looks very tidy though
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
They stop the metal panels from resonating and sounding all "tinny" as you drive along.
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
they do work i have them in mine
@Philhoppermiller
@Philhoppermiller 6 жыл бұрын
I am not as enthused about the van conversion. Just not my cup of tea. Good luck and God Bless you on your efforts. I'll stick with the river trips.
@Jax240jk
@Jax240jk 6 жыл бұрын
im sure i can see a few orbs around you in this video
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@corallaroc
@corallaroc 5 жыл бұрын
I know you will have completed this now, but couldn't you, me, whoever, put the adhesive in a bucket of warm water whilst using it?
@GDSVID
@GDSVID 6 жыл бұрын
celotex will squeak and squeel while driving and drive you mad
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
Well that's what I'm using as it's the best insulator for a given thickness unless you buy aerogel which is twice as good but ten times the price.
@davidbutler4363
@davidbutler4363 4 жыл бұрын
😁👍👏👏👏
@nitramretep
@nitramretep 6 жыл бұрын
loose attic insulation goes not in a van!
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
It does in mine. No other reasonable way to get into all the awkward nooks.
@Nick23Wood
@Nick23Wood 6 жыл бұрын
Peter M - Glass fibre I agree, but recycled plastic insulation works well - just resist the temptation to compress it too much.
@ttv2951
@ttv2951 4 жыл бұрын
Are you practising social insulation 😆
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 4 жыл бұрын
Haha yes
@doyle201206
@doyle201206 6 жыл бұрын
Only badged Toyota, it's a Citreon and therefore has no logic to design.
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 6 жыл бұрын
True!!
@xtc2v
@xtc2v 5 жыл бұрын
Ruined privacy, stealth, security and insulation by putting windows in
@Vandemonium
@Vandemonium 5 жыл бұрын
I was never building it for stealth. Privacy is assured via tinted windows and curtains. At least one side window is a legal requirement of the DVLA for reclassification as a camper van. I wanted rear windows and the second side window for better visability when driving.
@xtc2v
@xtc2v 5 жыл бұрын
@@Vandemonium Yours is a different use to mine perhaps. I need to cross the UK and the EU in winter. Seeing left at a junction is awkward but there are tens of thousands of vans on the road with that problem. Positioning on the road is important and using a wide angle nearside mirror. A rear view camera is better than wrenching my neck to look out back windows. A camera shows up any low bollards that otherwise I would hit for sure! Anyway nobody can see well through a tint especially on a gloomy day or at night which is why they are banned for front windows. I need to be able to pull up and sleep whenever I get tired happy that the van is quiet, secure, warm and stealthy. These things are hard to insulate. We just do the best we can for the use we envisage. So long as you are happy with your Proace that's great!
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