VLOG - WHICH CAMERA TOOL?

[@AviationVlogger]

I have supported you and watched every single one of your videos since your first PMDG 737 tutorials 4 years ago. You have drastically changed the flightsim community. You do things with FSX/P3D that no one else does. Your Fully Loaded/First Impressions are amazingly detailed and informative. Your VLOGS and Froogle Hangars are fun and enjoyable. You keep doing what you are doing. We all understand. Thank you for making these videos for us.

[@MoisesSimana]

Thank you for making a difference in the flight simulator community

[@plaincorgi]

Don't ever apologize for taking time for your personal life. This is just a game for all of us. Yeah you are a supreme source of info, and I have learned a tonne from you; but your personal life takes precedence. I can't say I haven't taken the luxury (or personal choice) of not using my sim for a week or so at a time, people get tired. That being said; I have always looked forward to your news/videos. Thanks for all you have done for the sim world. Best of luck with your startup!

[@bigstankydick]

Hey Froogle Im an instructor at an part 147 school. We have an A320 fixed training simulator. I introduce the students to the airbus using FSX and a A320 add on. until recently it was very frustrating using the onboard camera system. Thanks to your first video on chase plane I downloaded it last week. And now I have complete control over the cockpit panels. Even though we dont do much flying it makes demonstrating task like engine run and taxi much easier to present to a large class. Still trying to perfect it but I love it. Keep up the good work!!!

[@yolsclassics6347]

I had issues with have a massive amounts of cameras trying. FSRecorder was great until I need a lot, then FSX began crashing constantly. I ALMOST went ezdok v2 until I watched your video. Not even 4 minutes into your video, I went and bought Chase Plane and it has been an absolute pleasure! thank you soo much for this video!! =)

[@TheFlightSimDeck]

For me when it comes to making cinematic videos. ChasePlane > EzDok. I think V2 was rushed as a response to FSFX packages.

[@ivardozon8064]

The Flight Sim Deck v2 is horrible, I hate it even more than v1

[@l5andPregnant]

Damn Froogle, I was perfectly happy with EzDok...Until I saw this video.

[@stretchedits]

Hi Froogle, glad to see more content coming this year. You always make great video content and I sit waiting in eagre anticipation for your news video every Sunday evening here in the UK. Keep up the great work you do. I have never used a camera tool in fsx, unless you count TrackIR which I find indispensable, even the occasions it doesn't start up when fsx does I'am totally lost with out it. It is just so intuitive to turn your head and the view moves with you. I liked your comments about great competition in the flight sim community, I might take a look at Chaseplane as I did like some of the things you can do with it. I have started supporting developers who are really interested in being the best and being open about their products, finished or not. I bought the Tfdi B717 the other day, I know it has issues but those guys seem to want to do it right, and deserve support. Thanks again Froogle, see you soon.

[@zk9058]

I experienced the same issues as you with EZDok V2.....so I uninstalled it and went back to EZDok V1. I haven't played around with chaseplane yet.....kinda wanted to wait for the release candidate....but after watching your video I may go ahead and take the plunge. Thanks for the video froogs.....and for your contribution to the flightsim community.....it's much appreciated! Looking forward to all of your content in 2017 and beyond!

[@Travis455]

Thanks for this explanation. Was worried we weren't going to get those types of videos anymore. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@scottmajor2620]

No complaints here about your content levels; you have to balance life, especially to get good family time. Hearing that makes me like you even more. This was a great video. I'm sold on chase plane now for sure. Saves me the uncertainty of which to get. I was leaning toward EZ because it's been around and has such a good reputation, but this side by side really helped me make my decision. Thanks.

[@AShadowboxsFSX]

Good content and contributions as always Froogle, looking forward to the reinstating of some of my favorite series!

[@jdamjcreek]

The runway numbers for the static cameras were right next to the helipad views. That is how you select a runway static view.

[@frooglesim]

fabulous - thanks

[@Dreamsofwings]

Was hoping you would do a comparison! Many thanks for taking the time to produce it!

[@txhunter144]

I bought Chaseplane and liked it right away, but was going to wait a bit to fully convert from EzDok v1. So I upgraded to EzDok v2 and was shocked to learn that none of my camera settings could be imported from v1. Well, Chaseplane let me import EzDok cameras... so I've ditched EzDok and fully converted to Chaseplane. To anyone holding back because Chaseplane is in alpha, I would say that FSFX is being a bit hard on themselves by calling it alpha... it's really much more stable than it sounds. I have fewer issues using Chaseplane than I did with EzDok. Chaseplane is a great product.

[@t777captain4]

Hello Froogle, I was a EZDOK fan but have now switched to Chaseplane so easy to set up especially new camera's on the fly. Click the middle mouse button and it brings up options, I choose open chaseplane the create new cameras from there. I too had that weird rolling in the A2A connie with track IR. Great video keep up they great work when your able.Ive learned a lot from your videos

[@aviationchris5091]

After watching and learning so much of your amazing videos and also focusing on Ezdok, it seems you knew and felt so comfortable with this great tool, and you inspired me to learn and buy this amazing camera tool. After watching this review of an alternative beta tool that is still very new, I'm disappointed you permenantly switched. having said that, it is a personal decision and to get the best simulation and flight modeling experience you should go with what you see best and what works for you best. both camera tools are great, and me personally, I'm sticking with Ezdok as I hadn't experienced that particular modeling effect you described just yet. but appreciate you sharing that with us. please make more reviews and tutorials with this new tool, as I'm eager to learn and know more. many thanks

[@belgeode]

Starting to have buyer's remose on EZDok 2 after watching this. LOL. Thanks Froogle...

[@yolsclassics6347]

BelGeode I almost ALWAYS look at reviews and videos of products before buying a new product. it only took 4 minutes into this video for me to buy Chase Plane. It's a breeze to use and I can have as many cameras as I went and FSX never crashes with it.

[@robertgraham614]

I just switched over to Chaseplane today and am in the process of setting up my cameras for each plane. Lot of work but worth it. I had the same problems with EZdoc when landing.

[@PhillipHarristhegremlin]

Really enjoyed this thanks. I use chase plane for the same reason you mentioned but also the lack of support. I used ezdock for years but absolutely love chase plane and their response to issues.

[@mikemadden11]

didn't know you had such a big job outside youtube. thanks for clarification. can't wait to see this startup!

[@hamishreith]

I think i speak on behalf of all your loyal fans that the reason we stay is cus when you release a video we know its going to be high quality and entertaining to watch. Good luck on the startup :)

[@giovannisena4092]

hello all, great vlog, Froogle. I have a general question on the use of cameras together with TrackIR. The question is, "why?". I mean, if you decided you are going to use TrackIR to look around in your cockpit and out of the windows in the most natural way (short of VR, I guess), why bothering setting up VC cameras? I see Froogle doing it all the times: a camera for looking down at the instruments, another one to look up, to look right, etc... but every single of these movements could be obtained in a much more realistic way by moving your head with TrackIR.... So? What am I missing here? Note that I completely understand EzDok or ChasePlane for visuals outside the aircrafts, but for the cockpit I believe that TrackIR should cover everything... I look forward to reading your comments, and to learn something new! Cheers

[@adriankoola]

Will always like your videos froogle :) And your dedication to the simming community ;)

[@JordanKingGaming]

Have to agree with this one. The second I saw that it was going to alter the physics of the airframe, I knew I couldn't use it. I also dislike the "enhanced turbulence" feature in AS16

[@yolsclassics6347]

Jordan King I have that disabled as well.

[@UPS1000]

Switched from EZDok v1 when CP came out as Alpha. So far really like it but have to admit I use about 20% of all the cool features included. Thanks for showing a few more for me to try.

[@LZScout1]

Like yourself, I was a lifelong EZDok user. I was quite excited when version 2.0 was announced with a very reasonable upgrade price. I grabbed it up but found, like yourself, that it was somewhat lacking. My biggest problem with it was that I could not import my numerous version 1.18 profiles. I contacted the developer with the following comments: "The problem comes in when I try to import my camera sets (using the Import function in the File menu of the Studio interface) made in the previous version. It appears that the old .ecs files are not used by v2.0. There is another "Convert Camera Set" selection in the File menu of the Studio. I tried this but Studio appeared to freeze and any movement of the mouse would erase portions of the Studio window. I wouldn't let me browse for and convert my old camera files. (Note: I may not be using the correct verbage for the File menu items, I'm doing this from memory). At this point, I'm not willing to re-create all my camera sets in v2.0. It would seem to me that a new version of EZDok should be able to: 1. Import the General settings of the previous version, i.e. the keyboard assignments to the functions of EZDok. 2. The sensitivity settings of the previous version, to the extent that they exist in the new version. Any new features in the new version would have default settings. 3. The new version must, must, must be able to import the camera sets of the previus version. Maybe v 2.0 does and I've found a bug that keeps it from working for me. 4. The new version's program installer should have the ability to recover the needed previous version settings, then would uninstall the old version before installing the new version. Many programs do this. When the new program is asked to Import and previous version's camera set, it should automatically convert is to the new version. The software designer of EZDok have earned my respect and admiration. I've been using his product (upgraded to v1.18) for years without issue and, luckily, using "System Restore" in Windows 7, I was able to return to using my old version when I discovered the new version to be unusable (for me) for the reasons listed above. I applaude Marniftarr's dedication in trying to bring us an exciting new version of this software. I hope that a future update of this software that fixes the problems I've noted will allow me to jump to the new version. The $12.50 I've paid to upgrade is extremely reasonable so that I'm willing to wait a bit to see if these problems are addressed." Lantz" This was the developers reponse: Marniftarr wrote: "Lantz You are very exacting to addition which works with overdocumentation. Don't forget that 90% of functions which are done by EZ aren't documented and weren't developed by Microsoft. This addition - the most difficult thing and most difficult it to adapt it to the simulator. Don't demand simple things from difficult. Some functions about which you speak or aren't possible or will demand extra time. Any change in the program causes the mass of mistakes in users. Each change demands long beta testing. I will remind that this add-on is written to overprotocol and overdocumentation. It not the standard application for Windows, it works not standardly. We considered many options. But have stopped on it. As is." I responded with this: "I'm hoping the animosity I detect in your reply to my suggestions is due more to your unfamiliarity to the English language than to your actual intent. Although I'm not sure I understand everything in your response, I do believe I understand you don't intend to improve on the issues I raised. I'm sure that developing the program is very difficult and frustrating, as is dealing with customers such as myself who raise issues on your softwares functionality. My only intent was to suggest improvements. You, of course, have the option whether to consider them or not. Your customers have the option to use your product "as is" or consider offerings from you competitors, I.E. "Chaseplane" by FSFX Packages. Your success or failure in the market depends on the decisions you make. " He responded with this: Marniftarr January-03-2017 at 9:01pm Quote Reply "Product As Is and optimised for background. No interface , Nothing superfluous on the screen to make long flights. Please do not talk about clones of EZ here. Such posts i will delete. I have a team of advanced beta testers (In Russian) and they will tell me as where to make. !" At this point, I gave up the conversation, especially when my antivirus program found what it thought to be a Trojan in the EXDok 2.0 program. I immeadiately removed any vestages of EZDok and downloaded ChasePlane. I haven't regretted it.

[@dbarber2003]

Great vid Pete, glad to hear there is more content in the pipeline. Work/ life balance ain't easy now days so rest assured we understand when you just don't have time to focus on FS stuff.

[@ben3083]

I've gone the opposite way! Bought chase plane and I love the layout and it's features but I had an issue where the camera pointed up after 10-20 mins and then the sim crashes and none of the latest builds have fixed it. After exchanging a few emails with the Devs I was still no closer to a fix for it so now it's gone and I've Installed ezdok 2 and it's great, had no issues at all with it.

[@weswheel4834]

xcamera FTW! :) I do like the look of the Chaseplane interface though and if I end up needing a camera-addon for Dovetail's new FS if it ever comes out, Chaseplane VII will be on my list.... I do find that I need switchable cameras and TrackIR, which is why I wished someone would write an add-on for XP until they did. Glad to read that they've added TrackIR to Chaseplane, looking good. Thanks for the video.

[@guyburton9475]

Have used EZdock 1 in the past but most likely going to change to ChasePlane after watching this. Thanks for your thoughts; looking forward to hopefully a full one when CP gets released about installing and setup (especially an external camera for walk arounds and in the air).

[@stevenfavignano2632]

I used EZDOC for over a year, and got tired of EZDOC blowing out aircraft when the sim failed, so I quit using camera software. Chaseplane looks a helluva lot easier to use, so I will give them a shot. Thanks Pete.

[@stevesumner9988]

I am a chaseplane user. Best of luck on new business, and look forward to your videos. Great job.

[@sjfvideo9508]

I was an EZDok user and considered upgrading to V2 but now i'm looking at Chaseplane. Thanks for the info.

[@StallthenTurn]

Ditto on the reasons for ditching Ezdok v2. I was hesitant to use CP as my dedicated camera, but the many more features , excellent support and ongoing development was the game changer. Ezdok pioneered camera views but CP is the future.

[@deepredson]

Thanks so musch for the explanations. I'm here for the duration in any case. Brilliant in so many ways. Bart.

[@emilioware]

Froogle your work is amazing! Love to see you back in more than just the news, It would be great if you comment all the add-ons you are using in your last videos, thanks in advance, regards!

[@Paughco]

Might be handy to set up a quick view to the light switches so you can extend and turn on the landing lights without spending too much time away from the glide slope during approach.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Man, THANK YOU! Thank You for your amazing work. I love it. Nothing more to say👍👍👍

[@georgeotoole8581]

I love Chaseplane but it takes some getting used to especially as we are currently running blind with it! I accept it is early days but this looks really promising.

[@davidtsw]

Hey froogle, would you mind making another video with one of the VR headsets but this time using something like FSL A320 ? I would love to know whether the resolution and framerate are good enough with the current version to fly the aircraft comfortably.

[@Dkentflyer]

Hi Froogle i have recently started uploading my own videos flying a B1900D around the Uk and at the moment just use the default videos.I am very tempted to try out chaseplane as it looks so easy to set up.

[@b747400bcf]

FSX here, do not have any of those bugs in my EZDok v2 and the PMDG 747. I choose EzDok for cheaper price if upgrading from v1, no internet connection required, and lower processor usage.

[@josephlanfranchi1375]

Froogle great stuf thank you for your dedication and effort becauce of you and blackbox Ive become hooked into the flightsim world ...

[@stevecopelin5264]

Nice work as always, have had CP since it was released to the public. It's really nice, has great options.

[@palonazo]

I bought EZDok about one month before my Oculus Rift was delivered about one year ago. It was an impulsive unnecessary purchase. Having said that, the first camera add-on to support virtual reality by feeding in effects while leaving the camera position alone, wins.

[@matimo8321]

which addon do you use for the Lockheed constellation? Looks pretty cool!

[@botrbro]

Switched to Chase Plane when I moved over to P3D. Love it.

[@billbowieis]

Stay well Froogle!

[@hobobeaky]

I sympathies with the work schedule, I went through the startup as CEO of a healthcare training company in the US..... it is worth it. As I must say is your content. We stick with you as good things are worth waiting for :-)

[@mikelab862]

Do you know if the problem you talked about EZCA (injecting turbulence while landing) has been solved ? With P3Dv4 alive, does CP still your favorite ?

[@TonyMorel]

Your life comes first. At the end of the day us subscribers are a fickle lot so don't beat yourself up - you're still the first port of call for most of us. Am about to switch the P3D when I get the 747v3 at the weekend. Had been thinking of leaving Ezdok v2 as didn't like the effects it was putting on the airframe so this has been a perfectly timed :)

[@TonyMorel]

OK, couldn't wait till the weekend, did the switch yesterday and couldn't be happier. Been up all night installing and configuring. Ezdok changed how I enjoyed my sim so I will forever be grateful but ChasePlane just takes it to the next step on - thanks for giving me the push Pete.

[@jacksawyer3626]

I still use EZDOC 1 Pete but after this video I'm going to switch to Chaseplane but only when it's fully released. Great video!

[@RKDriver]

Agreed, it's $39 for an Alpha, but they're saying V1 will be out in the first half of 2017. Can't see paying that much money to be an alpha/beta tester. Maybe $20 for pre-release and $39 for final.

[@ernestpergrem3368]

The $39 price tag includes the alphas and v1. The advantage of participating in the alpha is that you get the opportunity to input on the development.

[@yolsclassics6347]

even though it's in alpha stage, it really feels like a solid product. I can't wait to see its " final " stage LOL

[@darenfradgley7681]

Hey Froogle. You mention Orbweaver. Would you recommend for P3D for cameras. Can't find any P3D reviews.

[@sloblock1972]

Long-time Ezdok 1 user thinking about changing to Chase Plane. If you did get a walk-through of all the Chase Plane features from the guy from FSFX, would be a really useful thing for those of us on the cusp of changing to see too... Could you video it?

[@mikelab862]

Thanks Froogle, great video... ! I have one question : Does the smooth transition effect option available when using your assigned key instead of cycling key ?

[@seanmcconnell434]

I know this is a couple months old now, but after viewing this video, I will be getting ChasePlane for the vary same reasons you had mentioned about ezydok 2.0 slow support response and unwanted effects on flight dynmancs. I was bouncing hard on landings with ezdok 2, even had a bounce launch me 800ft, that's when I said good by to ezdok. btw I am using FSX Steam

[@silvermyth2119]

Thanks mate! I'm glad I joined your awesome channel! BZ! :)

[@richardchurchill2459]

Let me see if I understand this, I am having a problem with the new 717 as to lack of response on landing and unresponse with the throttle or the throttle reacts without input. I have the EZDOT 2 and that may be the cause of the problems I am having?

[@Mistraltulipe]

I switched to EZDOK2 a few days ago, and I had funny things like speed increasing dramatically on an approach with the PMDG737, I hadn't figured out it was an EZDOC effect doing this, Thank you for sharing, it saves me research time I ll probably move on to chase plane too now

[@boogie2266]

I'm fairly new to flightsims (6 months) and thought of buying EZDoc when I saw Chase Plane in your vid and that was it, bought it and I am more than happy with, the only thing I'm missing at the moment is zooming with my mousewheel but I think they said they will include it.

[@Barani00000]

Hey , firstly thanks for this awesome video, it did help me a lot. I'd like to ask you an advice , which is the most preferred recording tool for FSX with minor FPS drop? Thanks in advance.

[@jamesrandall4837]

Froggle love the vid's but seams a while since we had a fully loaded vid maybe we can see the pmdg 747 v3

[@karlq7688]

Hi froogle, as always great videos with lots of info. I just wanted to ask if this is compatible with X Plane 11, and if so have you used it? cheers

[@SmokeStack684]

I purchased Chase Plane when it first came out. I also have Oculus Rift. At first everything worked fine, but as time went on and Chase Plane kept doing up-grades, my Oculus Rift stopped working right. I sent an Email to Chase Plane (Oldprop Solutions) but I never heard back. So I uninstalled Chase Plane and my VR works good again. I'm back to the default FSX camera.

[@brandongaumond]

Well that explains why I had a bounced landing the other day, never had that happen until I got V2

[@michaelhutcherson1264]

I am glad I have not invested into EZDOC. Since I do not have track IR I am in need of a good camera tool. Looks like you helped make that decision and with the others commenting on the problems they have had.

[@geoffbryce1653]

Pete, a Big problem with ChasePlane is that if their servers are off line or your internet stops for some reason, CP stops, and you are not flying that day. This is taking piracy protection too far. While EZDoc maybe a bit(lot) clunky, but you can use it anywhere and any time.

[@georgeotoole8581]

Oh and yes we really value the service you provide!

[@hamradioshack9066]

love you man. Love all your video I bought all those addon because of you good job

[@larryp1938]

Is this going to be a tool one can use in sim pit building to customise views???? Guess Ill have to get it and play with it.

[@mike.47]

As usual, a very informative video on the 2 current camera addons, thanks Froogle. As an aside, is it possible in a future vlog to go through your Razer Orbweaver setup? I have recently purchased one of these and I know I'm not getting the most out of it, a Razer video would be most helpful.

[@Deebeezeep]

How do you only have 66k subs? You're the face of flight simulation addons and I do not understand how you are not popular. But don't worry, channels explode once they hit 100k!

[@dieterdewit3782]

Ok, you got me curious about what you do as a living....but anyway, tnx for all the info in your vids !

[@mermaidslam7936]

I've been watching you since 2013. Keep making great videos! Will you be making more DCS videos? I've been playing DCS a lot lately with the oculus rift

[@christianmilson3720]

Can you make a video on the fslabs?

[@84ashford]

I have ChasePlane but l haven't been able to figure it out yet. I'm 73, love FSX and the others. It takes me awhile to learn how to get the camera l want.

[@saitekrumblepad]

So glad I watched this....explains why my Airbus zooms at F1 pace on taxi.

[@daveyp76]

Keep up the good work mate. I have been waiting for your opinion about these products..cheers

[@norcal8946]

Maybe i missed it?? Chase Plane purchase link?

[@seanlatimer5871]

Thanks Froogle. I watch you for quality rather than quantity so 2016 was great. I have used EZDOK v1 since you first introduced it. I am interested in ChasePlane and would want to import aircraft presets from users like you. I still use your Q400 camera views for EZDOK 😊

[@jonnypostill1167]

I love watching your videos. Even if you don't put up regular content. Keep up the good work. Chow ps When you do a 747 fully loaded please involve step climbs. I have read the manual still don't get it. I am better at watching than reading.

[@V_i_j_a_y919]

Hi Froogle Is it FSX or P3D?

[@awjvdheide]

Froogle, keep up the good work but don't burnout. To much work and no fun is killing. Thank's for now and looking forward to the oncomming news.

[@Izmael1310]

I agree. I will use chaseplane too. The ezdok developer lost credibility to me in the past months without any support. I hope that chaseplane will be camera tool at first no influences on airframe like ezdok v2 and I hope that they will be reasonable with price.

[@elguindy]

Thanks a lot I bought the camera and boy it's much better and easier than EZDok no issues at all straight forward setup and easy to use once again big thank you. Quick question I am using FTX central with all the components of it also Rex HD airports , Rex essential one drive active sky 16 and active sky art still my textures are not good like these videos what am I missing ? I am using 3 monitors 26" each with latest technology and led my card is Nivida 1080 . What should I do to enhance my scenery and my experience thanks for your help. Amr

[@robertsilver2211]

looked like there were runway tabs next to Heliports

[@stevenjackson8205]

Thanks for your many many many videos. inspirational, helpful, funny, some times a bit sarcky, lol. saved my from paying for PMDG 777, I know it'll be fab, but i wouldnt use it enough. so thanks for that. I've given up on EZKDOK too. does things to P3d i don't like or fully understand, like saved cams changing between sessions. v frustrating, keep up the great work :)

[@Slovenskimajzl]

Or just use X-Plane 11 where no camera tools are required. And even the one that expands on the already great camera system of XP is freeware, khm X-Camera.

[@SimRacingPakistan]

Froogle please can you give any suggestion on FS recorder working the FSX Steam Edition... I mean why the hell Dovetails didn't fix the FSX replay recordering... Anyone remember the old days of FSX movies - Cinematic ones: 1. Dualality - by Owen Wilson 2. Vectors - an FSX Film WE NEED A RECORDING MODULE ALSO FOR FSX STEAM EDITION... LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT FROOGLE :)

[@Mustang242Sqn]

I'd wanted a camera tool for years but based on what I'd heard about poor support & poor interface of EZdok I held off buying it for years, always in the belief that something else HAD to come along one day. I gladly picked up ChasePlane on release - all good things come to those who wait! Great to see you giving Keven & the team some well-deserved publicity.

[@Dirigo207]

Lack of customer support. You could do 30 minutes on flight factor alone. But is this kindof system practical in x plane saying someone was interested in developing?

[@CharleeSkywalker]

Thanks Froogle for his video...I have EZDoc v2 and I am not ahppy about that at all. The UI is horrible, even the basic operations with the app is not easy. I am pretty sure that the features itself are OK (except the ones not connected to cameras) but the presentation (UI) is not good at all and ruined the user experience. I am not happy that for such a function in sim we have to pay nearly $40 (+ money for EZDoc I ve already pay :-)) but on the other hand, developers of chase plane do the job well, so they deserve to get the money :)

[@pimpnetcrew4916]

Picked up chase plane. Amazing.

[@leespender4774]

I used to use EZdok v1 and loved it but now I use Chase Plane and won't be going back

[@originalpisces]

What scenery is that?

[@chr0sser978]

My first view addon ever is Chaseplane, and so far, i love it! Its absolutly great how simple it is to create views, change the speed of transaction, turbolence, winds, etc, compared to what i have heard about EZDoc. Now I need some views for the FSLabs and im good to go :) Great video froogle!

[@frankmarafiote3992]

Froogle, does a tool like Chaseplane make TrackIR irrelevant? How would you use both programs? Finally, if I need both, which program should I buy first - Chaseplane or TrackIR?

[@jasonspiskey4148]

Frank Marafiote Track IR and both Chase Plane or EZdok v1 or V2 work in conjunction with each other. THe track IR takes over looking around and moving in and out. It has its issues and I find that I only use track IR during takeoff and landing when I am least likely to use the mouse on a click spot or flying a helicopter. I find that my head moves slightly which makes it hard for him to hit my click spot. What track IR will not do is switch to different views such as outside the AC or world shots. All it does is allow to look "around" and "in and out" hands free. TIR is a must if you fly a lot of helicopters since with a helicopter it is difficult to take your hands off the throttle or stick. My opinion is that if you could only afford one or the other you MUST go with the camera tool first. If you find the extra money later then go get Track IR and use them together.

[@t777captain4]

I agree with Jason the camera tools are much cheaper than track IR. Chaseplane is my choice now much easier to set up than ezdok. Track IR is great but only when you can afford it.

[@aviationresults2292]

You're welcome!

[@volatus_sim]

I have to say I feel much more morally comfortable supporting and sticking with ezdok and an individual developer. I imagine he was not happy with the release of chase plane. That said though all I need is a camera that provides freedom of movement in my sim. Ezdok version 1 does exactly that so I see no need to buy yet another piece of software in this already pricy hobby. That said, again, flight sim is much cheaper than learning to fly in the UK.