Consider the Lemming

[@lavendermenace8078]

The start of crash course

[@patriciacasey6534]

ok, I'm calling bullshit on that you should not be teachers, because I have been close to tears about to drop a 1000 college class before a final, and your crash course videos have brought me back to the point that I end up liking the subject. I passes philosophy, biology, chemistry, and world history almost entirely due to you guys. really, you mean so much to so many people, don't play. 💜

[@FruityVeggieHead]

Patricia Casey lol this is pre-crash course and is actually one of the things that lead to crash course. They sought to become educational, not just informational.

[@flipppbook]

"I'm a DANCER." - John Green

[@Bloodmuffin6]

2014 letting you know that you've figured out the educational thing pretty well now

[@me2143658709]

Anyone else find it hilarious that he says that he would be a bad teacher then goes on to create Crash Course in which he is almost as good of history teacher as the one I currently have? Because I do.

[@andrewliu8048]

Is your history teacher good?

[@me2143658709]

@@andrewliu8048 5 years ago when I wrote that comment, yes, I loved my history teacher.

[@andrewliu8048]

@@me2143658709 wow didnt think that you would respond that fast. Why were they good? Ive always wondered what makes a good teacher. Mine seem like theyre just trying to last the year

[@me2143658709]

@@andrewliu8048 I was on my laptop so I saw the notification pop up. I think my history teacher had really cared about the subject matter and his students. I never thought of his homework assignments as busy work like I had with some of my other history teachers. I also thought the way he graded his tests was really fair. When he incorporated videos into the class it never felt like it was because he was being lazy, they always seemed to actually matter with what he was trying to teach. I also just really like him as a person, I ended up TAing for him my senior year. I would say I was fairly lucky with a lot of the teachers I had in high school. My district had a lot fo finding issues and the people running it ( i.e. the principal, superintendent, and other behind the scenes staff) didn't do a very good job, but most of the teachers I had still wanted to help the students as much as they could.

[@andrewliu8048]

Its great that you had a lot of great and caring teachers. I wish i could say the same for me. They always seem so dull and drab. I think that you should be passionate about what you teach. You said that you had multiple history teachers right. What do like about studying history and where are you in life now.

[@briansmobile1]

1:49 Oh I know I just vogued Hank. I'M A DANCER!!!

[@TotallyHuman]

does he realize that we watch him in school like half the time?

[@alexbirch7665]

But this isn't present John Green, this is John Green's 'Me From the Past'...

[@DoctorX17]

It's 2019 and dftba.com/esther is still a valid link. That makes me happy. I wish I'd had a chance to know Esther, and not just hear about her nearly a decade later.

[@RockismyAir]

It is now 2021 and the link still works and I agree with your words 100%

[@Westerlywick]

Ah the early stirrings of Crash Course and SciShow!

[@MusicsInMySoul977]

Pro-tip about psychology.... if Freud mentioned it, especially if he REALLY liked the idea of it, and used it a lot, it is ALWAYS WRONG. As a psych major, Freud is the one person we all love to hate. Because he's wrong a lot, and everyone knows about him, but they don't know about William James, or Skinner, or the really good psychologists of the past!!! SO ANNOYING

[@EtrielDevyt]

In his defense, Freud's major breakthrough was the idea that you should actually talk to mentally ill people and treat them as patients. Pretty much noone, from what I can tell, took the idea seriously until he happened.

[@alannar.8701]

Freud is the Aristotle of psychology, basically?

[@MusicsInMySoul977]

Yes. We also don't like Aristotle, Mr. "the mind is in the heart I swear."

[@Empedocles449]

Holy shit, I fucking love Marie Antoinette, now! Those are the best last words on Earth! Apologising to the guy who's about to cut your head off is pure goddamn class.

[@adityakhanna113]

+

[@Nevidentis]

My watching of this video marks the official moment that I have been working towards for going on three weeks. I have watched every single VlogBrothers video from the very beginning in order. It was a remarkable journey, and I look forward to continuing to watch week by week. A month ago I had never heard of Nerdfighteria, and now I really really hope that there is an event somewhere near me soon, so I can go!!! Thank You. Also i never really learned anything about the process of mummification!

[@homeworkbreak4237]

“Ineffective strategy is ineffective” There was no better way to end that story

[@LeahMarkum]

T minus 1 year and 2 months till Crash Course.

[@TheGirlwiththeglass]

When commenters say that you would make a great english teacher, it's not because of your knowlege (we already know your brains are filled with awesome stuff). What teachers today are lacking, and what you both seem to posses so much of, is enthusiasm for learning and the curiousity needed to learn. In this generation teaching (for some) has become a job and not a profession. DFTBA and thanks for continuing to make me excited about learning! P.S- You have taught me to love myself even more.

[@mitigatekeeps1371]

Sooo.... Regarding The Pain Of Others In Your Pants?

[@reynaldojaen1068]

Mitigate Keeps you are golld my friend

[@alishabradley3218]

Poor non suicidal lemmings

[@nyak63RUS]

As a professor of English and Economics, thank you for helping to explain the difference between informing and educating.

[@emilyfaith4061]

Soooo at 0:38, did anyone else hear "Consider the following" Or am I the only Bill Nye fan?

[@leahotto8003]

Forced suicide is homicide.

[@66renny66]

Indeed, forced suicide absolutely is murder. To be educational, be factually accurate.

[@mineola_]

Renny McGovern the entire point of this video is that these videos aren't educational though. 😂

[@larllarfleton]

i think the reason i learn so much outside of school from these videos is because they tell me the interesting stuff, so then i get interested and do my research to fully understand the subject. i love your point though john. :)

[@emmacarrillo7505]

Their soooo cute. Do they make good pets?

[@Wafflical]

Ask the brain scoop maybe.

[@aashi8316]

Casandra me too

[@alextcherdak5896]

IT WAS NOT A TENNIS COURT IT WAS A "SALLE DE JEU DE PAUME", A ROOM WHERE A GAME IS PLAYED, SAID GAME MOSTLY INVOLVING HITTING A BALL AGAINST THE FLOOR AND THEN THE WALL.

[@RitaSijelmass]

nathalie alexandra Tcherdak ... Like squash?

[@alextcherdak5896]

Without a raquet.

[@sabahpirani93]

+nathalie alexandra Tcherdak so handball...

[@alextcherdak5896]

not quite... there's no field, no goals, you're playing against a wall. So kind of like a handball-squash hybrid? The name of the game directly translates to "palm game" so... you hit the ball with your palm.Towards a wall. It's still a popular game in France, especially in Primary and Middle schools (I was hit by many a stray ball in my childhood, and let me tell you, the foam ones when it's raining and muddy? not fun.)

[@mcrxloverx92]

Oooh, John. It breaks my heart every time you talk about Esther because you just get this look of *extreme* sadness in your eyes :( I love you

[@BobertJunior1025]

This is why I can't learn networking just by googling "networking" No context. Also, fuck networking and fuck trying to learn it by myself.

[@jdspringr]

+Max Lorge You meet people. You get their information. You contact them later. You meet them again.... Then you meet their friends/co-worked, repeat all steps. That is networking in a nut shell.

[@BobertJunior1025]

Jebus I mean internet networking. Not social interaction.

[@jdspringr]

+Max Lorge Oh, that's even easier. Buy a router, buy a switch, buy cable, setup equipment, configure equipment, and repeat all steps for next network. For maintaining network, let it sit in place. If it fails, replace under warranty and repeat steps. Else wise, sit in chair with thumb up ass while waiting.

[@BobertJunior1025]

Jebus It's like you're fucking with me

[@jdspringr]

+Max Lorge Networking is pretty simple. Honestly, it's one of the most boring areas to get into. If you want to learn networking, best look at getting into virtualization. Soon enough there wont be "network admins" or "network engineers" anymore. They'll all be melded into the system administrator role. :)

[@marksusskind1260]

Oh, yeah! The inception of Crash Course! As a Summer 2012 first-time subscriber to vlogbrothers, I went looking to see if you had videos about the 2010 voting season as well. Instead, I find videos about probability and the French Revolution. Vive le Nerdfighteria!

[@terlhe28]

My absolute favorite! "Oh I know I just vogued Hank, I'm a dancer!" Thank you for that bit of comic relief :-)

[@MoonShoesTriber]

Every time they mention Esther in their videos it makes me cry a little.

[@Laura_Norda]

part of being a good teacher is the ability to make their students WANT to learn...John & Hank make knowledge so interesting that I want to find out more :)

[@mrericsully]

As a teacher I appreciate your understanding of the difference between information and education- I wish my students got it and remembered the education parts rather than the just the entertaining parts. As a side note, of course with CrashCourse and SciShow and the great efforts of other KZbinrs we are seeing more education, but how can we do it on a larger scale? I use KZbin as a creator and as a resource, but I feel like I am dabbling in a pool and missing an ocean of opportunity.

[@aashi8316]

Sully Science I admire amd repsect you for giving people education.

[@saber1epee0]

Dear John green from the past. John and Hank green from the present are absolutely awesome and fantastically educational providers of materials across the nation. I have a feeling that if someone told you that when this video was made, you would call them a crazy person. DFTBA

[@gryffindorxo]

@Crristyz Google it! When it comes to formal writing, you are supposed to use verbs other than being verbs (am, is, our, was, were, be, being, been). Instead use other words in place of them. Instead of 'is', I tend to use "serves. ex: This is the theme of the novel, "this serves as the purpose of the novel." Sorry, I just learned this earlier this year in my 10th pre-ap class, and I wished someone told me sooner! (and that really just applies to formal writing, don't worry about your novel!)

[@AmalJavedAbdullah]

Watching this after reading the Anthropocene Reviewed. Very interesting that John has been thinking about lemming suicide and that Disney documentary for 10 years.

[@tatistus]

I feel a bit nostalgic about this John vs. current John. They are both awesome, they are both smart and kind, but this one looks more engaged with emotions, liveliness, fun, evoking... I do understand the why, but it doesn’t makes me any less nostalgic. I only hope that his spark never dies, I hope he feels good, whichever way he expresses it.

[@proudblatherskite]

I love how most if not all of these suggestions have to do with the high school curriculum (physics, celular respiration, Hamlet, Photosynthesis and Enyme activity) all of which I am seeing right now in school

[@mikeysrose]

My favorite part... I had to watch it over and over.

[@dianasof]

I was considering going to a Susan Sontag lecture tomorrow. So thank you for helping me decide on going.

[@RyanGatts]

That story about lemmings was educational. It helped me to not trust off-hand things I see on the screen. I think expanding my ability to observe and understand the world around me is the definition of education.

[@BatnRouge]

The thing is that you also provide interesting and relevant contextualization for the information you provide. You also make young people want to think, and learn, and care about more things than whether Snookie's actual skin color is orange. So, yeah, you do pwn my english teacher!

[@wayneandloriearl]

You are amazing, John. I love the This Star Won't Go Out pumpkin--saw the photo on Esther's wall. Hoping the new bracelets are as enduring as the 1st generation--I have been wearing mine everyday since July, and it still looks new!

[@juliaxchung]

I love seeing John’s interests in a video from 2010 manifest not only as Crash Course (as everyone is pointing out in comments) but also a chapter of the Anthropocene Reviewed! It makes me happy to read the lemming chapter of TAR and think about how these thoughts have been stewing for over a decade :4)

[@Nick0062]

@TheStringsAreBroken Don't worry, displacement reactions really aren't that hard once you get the hang of them. Take for example the displacement reaction Fe + CuSO4. To find the product of this reaction all you have to is to put the 'end' of one of the compounds onto the other. So you take the SO4 from CuSO4 and put it onto the end of Fe and you now have the product FeSO4 + Cu. All that's happened is that the SO4 has switched from Cu to Fe because it's the more reactive metal. Hope that helped.

[@arey502]

Those pumpkins are awesome. Also, I like when John did that short lecture series on Catcher in the Rye... if you guys could do more of those on other books and even songs or something. I feel like once you read enough books and have had enough lectures you can easily read meaning, but then there are some stories that I just don't understand, like The Metamorphosis. I liked it, but I don't know what it could mean! Thanks!

[@SirCaseyoftheLea]

Please teach me how to be kind and supporting to the kids at my school who are struggling in ways I never had to. They are being physically threatened, and no one will testify.

[@Cristaaaaal44]

teach people about THEATER! it seems as though so many people are clueless about how wonderful of an art it is! and it's INTERESTING!

[@KingandQueen0]

Hank, understanding and learning in my chemistry class is a constant struggle due to the atmosphere in the class. anything you have to say about chemistry would be appreciated SO much

[@BrightenUpEmoBoy]

I really like to hear a John/Hank themed education of the many worlds theory! Don't particularly understand it enough as I would like to, I would really appreciate it.

[@dragonboy1359]

Hears a tricky one for ya, The Irish language!! I moved to Ireland 4 years ago, I had to sit exams on the subject, its basically like French but....Irish? Doing well at it now but a video from you guys would inspire an A GRADE, remember that!!

[@SarahRamonexxx]

you made me read catcher in the rye & leaves of grass. thankyou. ♥

[@CassidyParkerKnight]

Talking about the French Revolution in school right now, saw in the textbook Marie Antoinette's last words, and thought of John :)

[@hairsprayqueen]

Ahhh such a good idea! I'll think about it, because I really do think you guys are able to provide both education and information in a super interesting way. Also maybe the entire idea of what constitutes 'education' should change in a way that makes it interesting and engaging for everyone.

[@vanmaren962]

The letters of DFTBA have been repeating in my head for the past week and I had forgotten what it was from....damn you John

[@MohdFawzy]

And little did John from the past know, he would go on and do something majorly educational...

[@redhead312]

It was this video that made me discover Nanowrimo. Now a few months later I have the 50,051 word draft on my bookshelf as a reminder that I can acomplish my writing dreams. Thanks John and I will see you at Leaky con

[@MollyBlueDawn]

Among the most important things one can learn are a) that things like literature and science are actually interesting and b) that one is actually good at things like reading books and solving mathematical problems, and c) that being smart is fun and awesome and not something to hide. All of these things can be learned from watching Vlogbrothers videos and getting to know the Nerdfighter community. So are these videos educational? French the Llama, yes!

[@notsodirtyharry]

1:50 "Oh i know iu just vogued hank, im a dancer!" Gets me every time

[@Hbeissel]

Consider the Lemmings is a band. They are based out of Kansas City and even graduated high school with my sister a few years ago. You should definitely check them out.

[@bitca13]

@calvinball1 I never really thought about just saying meh to ancient philosophy. Sounds like a solid plan! Although, my instructor would probably disagree, googling it seems to be the best course of action. Thanks for the help!

[@KirtiMiko]

Kinetics- as in body language. It's not a class in my school, or any public high school that I know of, but it is so fundemental in how we communicate that I would like to spend four minutes understanding it better. Oh, and Japanese. If you could help me understand how to make a point clear in the Japanese language- which ntoably lacks conjugation- that would be splendid.

[@kaeldra135]

@kaeldra135 the air in the bus is also moving with you so there is no air resistance. Everything (all of the matter) in the bus is moving at the same speed.

[@thatonecrazyotaku]

Actually when you talked about lexical gaps i knew that for my test the following friday.... so you taught me something very important!

[@anders4life]

I vote that you guys talk about a person's responsibility in their community as it pertains to their ability to make a difference therein.

[@shortypenguin]

All the other people/groups I've subscribed to are running out of ideas, but John and Hank DFTBA! :)

[@uglybuckling]

@Silver1226 Who references the subject or object of a sentence ("Who ordered this soda?"). Whom references a direct object, which is almost always found after a preposition ("to whom should I give this soda?". If you follow the simple rule that "whom" is always used after a preposition, you'll be right more than 95% of the time.

[@JessieCarty]

This is SUCH a good point - the difference between information and education!

[@EmilyLestrange7]

I just ordered my Esther bracelet! It will hopefully arrive in time for my birthday (23rd of July if you're wondering). I feel so happy that I can contribute to the foundation, and decrease world suck by approximately £5.90!

[@Ponicalica]

@mapleleaf65 (part 4) This attraction means that the atoms end up arranging themselves in a crystal structure, which is why we have salt crystals, but I digress. Another important thing is that these two methods of gaining stability are not mutually exclusive. There are structures in which a collection of atoms can be stable if they share electrons with each other *and* give electrons away to other atoms. These are polyatomic ions. If you need more explanation, just ask.

[@coolaly2coolaj]

John, You remind me of my teacher, Mr.Darnell. He tells the truth. He says he hates the textbooks. We rarely use it. His saying for Columbus is, " He's white and greedy. " I love how you kinda look like and talk like him too. He has the same humor as you. The world needs more Hanks & Johns. I will have to show Mr.Darnell this.

[@beakybug]

The purpose of equalizers on sound boards and how to work them would be fantastic.

[@erinbirdyy]

THE TENNIS COURT OATH OMG (see this is why i'm still debating music education and history education because i can hear the interesting bits and know what it is still and not be bored by it)

[@mmkklsn]

John, please explain the duality of light. and the differences (and similarities) between Plank's experiments and de Broglie's experiments.

[@Ponicalica]

@mapleleaf65 (part 3) The other way for atoms to avoid this is if there are two types of atoms near each other--one that has just slightly too many electrons to be stable, such as sodium, and one that has just slightly too few electrons to be stable, such as chlorine. The sodium atoms can give up their electrons to the chlorine atoms, which are called ions because the atoms now have a charge. An important consequence of this charge is that the atoms are attracted to each other. (continued)

[@ttgl_bobross]

I'd like to hear John talk about the significance of books like Brave New World, 1984, We, and other works of Dystopic fiction.

[@TWIB627]

Also my very awesome friend taught me about free energy, entropy and enthalpy, and it seems very interesting, but I am still a bit vague on it, so that would be great.

[@stupidname3627]

I know I'm a bit late to the game but i also know im not the only one who didn't learn important stuff in school mostly how to do taxes and invest and diversify portfolio and 401k and all that stuff and i'd like to understand that. I'm currently on the crash course economics to try and maybe get a better understanding of it. Thanks John Green for making that space to learn.

[@therealcubiksrube]

I always suspected that about the lemmings (because simplified human models, especially sensationalist ones, seem seldomly accurate), also that Disney would drama up their documentary - thanks so much for talking about it and pointing people toward the truth! While maybe not "eduction" in the sense you describe, it was certainly a randomfactoid bit of internet information I dearly appreciated.

[@obvisu]

There is nothing quite like rewatching the archives of vlogbrothers, coming across this video, and remembering fondly that this was the first year I won NaNoWriMo.

[@iHeartKaliii]

@breah1234 Heyyy, as a chem major I would say that the easiest way is for you to count how many of each element you have on each side. For instance if you have 2 oxygens on the reactant side, then you must have 2 oxygens on the product side. Again, If you have 4 hydrogens on the reactant side, you need 4 on the product side. Keep changing the numbr in front of the products or reactants until each of the sides equal one another in elements. I hope this makes sense... a video would be nice too!

[@fanpire102]

Please explain Cellular respiration and or the reason we need inequalities and the conversions to the metric system. I don't see the point in struggling with this when we could just slowly progress our system to the metric system! thank you DFTBA

[@heatherhattle4893]

I love the way you said "I'm a dancer". It is so funny!

[@sweetiepie2787]

This is the first VlogBrothers video that I ever saw.

[@Jeromy1986]

I considered that you guys would make awesome teachers, *but* that would put you into a classroom teaching only a few people while where you are now, doing what you're doing is far more conducive to awesomeness!

[@slimyweasles4973]

Hooray for solid efforts to be educational!

[@CherryBlossomSmile]

It would be really useful if you did a video on Children's Literature and what the fantasy in children's books is used for in terms of the education and moralisation of the children who read it. Mostly because, you know, I'm taking a course in it this year at Uni.

[@lordshmee]

@faakthewurld I second this for discussion by the brothers Green. The answer to the last last question in particular is extremely important for understanding why the perceived "conflict" between science and religion is actually nonexistent.

[@auburnringlets]

Dear John, My high school did not teach me about car payments, loans, mortgages or how to properly invest. As a pseudo adult, I now truly wish there had been a class discussing these important parts of my life. Please make a video concerning these things, for the sake of our credit. Sincerely, Cass

[@Drakesinmoue]

@Silver1226 so, you know like, subjects and objects in a sentence? "I saw him", I is the subject, him is the direct object. So if you want to know who saw him, you'd say "Who saw him?" but if you want to know who "I" saw, then you would say "I saw whom?"

[@jullachris90]

Gyroscopes! And maybe nutation (a term within the physics of gyroscopes). Or maybe rotation in general. I am learning this in physics in university (1st year), and it would be nice to get a clear overview (or just fun facts to get me motivated).

[@sleepyjean47]

I think that your point about that which is educational and that which is information is actually not necessarily the best choice of vocabulary to use. Education, depending on your definition, doesn't have to be enlightening or useful to still be educational, and a lot of elementary and high school education is super decontextualized (I still have no idea what you actually use trigonometry for IRL). The distinction you are actually trying to make is, I believe, between info & knowledge/wisdom.

[@Felisquoreda]

I loooove knowing the future of their teaching on youtube :)

[@GenericGrey]

November 1st is my favorite day of the year.

[@yucLucy]

You did it again! You really are in last words! (Like you said in Looking for Alaska) Awesome!

[@unepommeverte17]

do you have any idea how happy it made me when i scrolled down right after that sentence just to see if there was a comment about that? and then it was the top comment? i love nerdfighteria

[@itsmehannahlily]

I have an idea. As you are doing educational videos, I suggest that we have a new event where every Nerdfighter makes their own youtube-4-minute-lesson thing on something they're really passionate about and would like to teach the rest of Nerdfighteria about. It would help everyone to get to know the other Nerdfighters :) I know this month is NanoWrimo and next month is P4A so maybe we could think about it in the new year :) I dunno but I think it would be fun :)

[@dclogik]

@faakthewurld They worked to base 60 back then because 60 has the most common factors; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30. It made arithmetic easier. Choosing 6*60 degrees in a circle allows more accurate mesurement, while keeping it simple. Maths is always logical, not philosophical.

[@shadedscript]

I never learned philosophy at school, and it always seemed interesting. How about discussing some of the most influential philosophers and their theories? Thanks.

[@robodude43]

I feel like John could make some great video's on some ancient religions and ancient religious beliefs. I currently taking a Mythology coarse and was expecting a more theoretical and theological discussion, but instead am just learning a bunch of myths. I'd be great if John did anything having to do with religions. As for Hank, Bio or Physics. He's got the chem thing down, when I take chem next semester i'm going to memorize his video :D

[@samyemma78]

you could teach us about Freud. it may be better if you just skim over his more pervy studies for the sake of younger nerdfighters but it'd be great if you'd explain his studies on dreams and what not

[@Tommadness3994]

Hank, please teach Nerdfighteria about Redox reactions. That would help me (any many Nerdfighters) in Chemistry class SO MUCH.

[@FantasyMadeline]

Regarding the Pain of Others in Your Pants. That just proves that those three words makes EVERY book title way better.