Vmount batteries which to buy - aputure 120D, 120D mark II, 300D-

[@NeverlandProductions]

March 2020: Affordable Vmounts I'd recommend : If you can find the Soonwell/rolux for under $250 In my opinion they have the best value overall Soonwell 230Wh: amzn.to/3c8eFTP | ebay.to/3cf4gpu Soonwell 190Wh: amzn.to/2L6JtbD The Comer is a great value but feels cheaper, still best bang/buck Comer 190Wh: amzn.to/3caklg3

[@MickakaMurph]

Just a bit of advice try talking slower so you don't sound like you're slurring in your words otherwise great video

[@MyronDavismd]

I was thinking the same thing. It was a little difficult to stay connected. I slowed the video down.

[@MyronDavismd]

Great content, though.

[@newrezmedia9203]

Please slow down, I had to rewind 5 times to understand

[@melkezidek]

lol. I agree. Just go to the settings and slow it down.

[@sthalxndr]

Just slow down the video speed. That's what it's there for.

[@mildmannered1086]

I really enjoy the speed of your talking, information injection!

[@KevinLin145]

I appreciate you testing out these batteries that are low cost and has low/no reviews. But don't title 300D if you can't test the 300D.

[@NeverlandProductions]

Oh. I changed the title after I got my copy of the 300D. Didn't realize I never mentioned it on the description/comment. I own a 300D and yes they work, the soonwell and rolux anyways. I've used them several times with the 300D but did not time how long they last it's really not that long actually haha (at 100%).

[@KevinLin145]

I see... glad to know some cheaper alternatives will work with the 300D, but as you said it's really not that long since the 300D draws a boat load of power haha

[@NeverlandProductions]

Yeah.. I mean if you can avoid using max-power it's really not that bad, I wanna say they last one hour at max... But my tests showed that the capacities are pretty accurate on these batteries, so even really expensive ones with the same capacity will last about the same you know? I intend to do a follow up at some point to see if the capacities have significantly decreased after using them for a while

[@nexttvc]

I can't understand please speaks slow try to delivery the words

[@joshbowlin9040]

thanks for the info and taking the time to edit and film this.. appreciate that. i just purchased the falcon eyes 18-TD​ and will be choosing a v-mount battery very soon. Aloha from Hawaii!

[@weeardguy]

Considering that some batteries turn their FETs off in protection of the cells while the others don't could mean that they stress the cells more. The gas gauge inside the packs is set to a maximum output current. Go over that and it just cuts off the FETs to the outside world. Either wait long enough or remove the overcurrent condition and the gas gauge will turn the FETs on again. Besides a software-setting to make the battery more expensive, it's also protection. Not every cell or PCB can handle high output currents. Higher overcurrent settings make the batteries usefull for high-drain applications, making the pack more expensive, while it's the same battery when cheaper, but then just set with a lower maximum current.

[@Stolen.Potential]

I don't know why this has any dislikes; it is super informative and I was trying to figure out the best battery to get for my 120d. Thank you!

[@FM-lo9vv]

It's because it says 300D in the video title and he doesn't test it in the video

[@TimmyDahitman]

Can you make an updated video on this?

[@directorparisholmes2024]

I saw this video 7 years ago and I still have my 2.

[@NeverlandProductions]

UPDATED 2018 Links in the description. Prices no longer accurate in video. ALSO Tested with 300D, both the Soonwell and Rolux work well with it! Soonwell 230wh: nvpro.co/soonwell230 $250 Soonwell 190wh: nvpro.co/soonwell $225 Best Value! Rolux (lots of volatility in $): nvpro.co/rolux Small Soonwell: 130wh: nvpro.co/smsoonwell $155 Juicebox 150wh: nvpro.co/juicebox

[@odiemagee]

This was very informative & very helpful just very fast it felt like high school all over again 😂 Edit: *I just slowed the playback speed & that helped lol

[@zaevis]

Hi, there can you update how are they working now? Any issues? You still like them?

[@NeverlandProductions]

No problems so far! Also a few people from the aputure user group on Facebook, have good things to say about these.

[@InvisageStudios]

the "10A" you saw on the D-tap port is NOT the requirement of the light. That is the MAXIMUM current draw for the Dtap port and the Dtap port alone. The current drawn by the control box max exceed 10A.

[@elisabatesfotoogfilm9281]

Hello, I will like know for example on the Aputure LS 600 pro, how long battery's will last, some examples of energy durability on different lamps, 100% 50% of intensity

[@gunnarsandberg8132]

try to talk slower! Sounds like you're mumbling!

[@NeverlandProductions]

A few others said the same. I was trying to make it fast delivery type video. My new ones are better though! haha

[@user-cs2rx3ig3n]

So is the juice box battery bad or good?

[@DavidKfilmmaker]

Please. Talk. Faster.

[@InceptiveDOP]

lmfaooo

[@inspiredmotionfilms]

Just speed up the video ;)

[@LukeMcAdam]

So the Indi Pro PD130S is the same battery as the Soonwell? That seems to be the only one I can get hold of in Canada.

[@lordlightdob1509]

Great work . thank you Please Do I need a separate cable to connect the lighting Aputure to the battery ? Or i will find it with the battery or the light ?

[@davidlundphotography1415]

Really interesting, have several aputure lights and their is mass of options for V mount. One tiny little suggestion, brilliant info but just talk a little slower. Help to absorb all of the helpful info. .

[@WGEE221]

What did he say?

[@brunosennaphotos]

great video, but calm down, had to rewatch a couple times to get the info.

[@NeverlandProductions]

Sorry about that haha. Yeah everyone says that. I was trying something new. Still working on it!

[@davidp158]

Thanks for the review. Q: How do you like the Fotga V-mount battery distribution box? You mentioned that the Kastar battery won't fit onto it. Any other issues with it?

[@NeverlandProductions]

I like it, but it's not perfect: The on light burnt out. So I don't know when it's on or not, just gotta plug something in and see if it works, which is annoying. The included charger almost immediately broke, (if you have a dtap charger doesn't matter, I replaced mine and sometimes use it to charge batteries which is neat). And the V mount connectors are held in with 4 screws, I did not notice this until this week actually but two are missing and the other two were really loose. Other than that it works great. With that said haven't used it as much now that I have the URSA, and the Sony is reserved for when I want a lightweight set up, so not this haha

[@card-joker5301]

hello Mister! I have two Jinbei EF 150W LED Lights (COB) They have the abillaty to ger powered by a speazial Jinbei Battery (HD-610) 14,8V 6000mAH Continiuous Discharge Current 20A, so i wonder if i could build a Adapter for V-Mount Battery instead ? Would it be possible?e?

[@jennyluvsfood]

i'm frustrated ....you can't get any of these anymore ... i wanted them for my music cooking channel

[@luckycatbeats9607]

Great video man

[@the.jose.martinez]

great video. this helped alot! thanks

[@iamperris1]

What charger do you recommend for the soonwell charger?

[@ParisHolmesFilms]

ended up buying the 190wh, thanks

[@gretazabulyte872]

Is it working well for you?

[@Chris-py3ec]

Any update on how well the Soonwell's held up over the years?

[@NeverlandProductions]

Yeah they're still holding strong! I posted an update video of sorts. But all the batteries are still good, including the COMER which are generally cheaper.

[@Chris-py3ec]

@@NeverlandProductions Sounds good, thanks for the reply!

[@eyezviewproductions5968]

So the comer can run it at full power for 2 hours??

[@ParisHolmesFilms]

I really want these but I wanted to know how much of a difference in time would the 230w give you? Decisions Decisions Decisions

[@NeverlandProductions]

The difference in my test and just by math is 20%. However, at current prices the 230w are 35% more expensive. So you'd get more bang per buck buying two of the 190wh

[@alhardy1644]

So which one did you suggest?

[@VisualAnthony]

My 150Wh Juicebox's run my 300d II for over an hour @ 100%

[@NeverlandProductions]

Interesting! How long ago did you buy yours? I ended up returning the one on this video but shortly after bought a used URSA Mini that came with one and it had the same characteristics as the one i got... The fact that the listing was updated while I was recording this video makes me not trust the brand as much... But would be good to see their improving

[@marcoandell]

I have no idea what he said 😒

[@AGS-8785-D1R]

Hi, thanks for the information. Will these batteries be able to charge via the D-Tap connector? Can't seem to find this information.

[@NeverlandProductions]

Yes, haven't encourated one that is not chargeable through the dtap port. That's how I charge all of mine

[@josungje]

You can find which batteries are good by using them continuously at max. power to the end specially for lightings. Then poor batteries will be distorted inside by heat, or power will be cut by heat inside. Although it is working one time, if you use it again and again, their inside will be distorted or cells will be damaged and it will affect the life time.

[@NeverlandProductions]

+JO SUNGJE This wasn't a long term use test, just my findings in trying out the cheapest options available. I have 4 of these now and have used them a couple of times at Max including on the 300d. No problems so far! Maybe I'll make an update video on their health after a couple more months.

[@zaevis]

Hi, there can you update how are they working now? Any issues?

[@hylabean1]

he was talking to fast what is the best battery to buy ?

[@NeverlandProductions]

too* There's a pinned comment and it's also in the description

[@adnan.a.nazzal]

Is it normal that fully charged idx on apeture 120 D Mii and dimmer on 90% working only 20 minutes ?

[@NeverlandProductions]

Whats the battery capacity? Idx is high quality but tends to only have lower capacity batteries. A perfect example of how capacity is not related to output. They can power it, but because their capacity is really small they drain really quickly

[@weeardguy]

@@NeverlandProductions IDX does not have lower capacity batteries in general. You can perfectly buy 240 Wh batteries from them. It's just that the bigger brands usually tend to err more on the cautious side when it comes to their maximum output ratings. A 90-98Wh battery usually does NOT accept more than 4,4 to 6 Amps of total output current. Go over it and it will just turn of the FETs inside. 150 Wh batteries usually go up to 8 amps or so, where 200 to 240 wh batteries usually go up to 12 Amps. It's all about batterylife: a 90-98 Wh will need cells that are able to be discharged at 1 to 2 times their rated capacity. This not only will make them heat up more, but also drain them really fast and not meet their rated capacity. Cell-type is a trade-off between price and capacity and thus how long they last. I recelled my V-mounts with NCR18650B's. I nearly doubled the capacity when you look at the numbers, but in reality, it's probably just 75% more capacity, as the cells inside are not as able to withstand high-current discharges (they are specced at a 2C max discharge rate, where the original cells (UR18650A/18650SW by Sanyo/Panasonic) could handle something like 8C discharge (about 16 Amp per cell). In the original configuration, you could power anything you like without seeing much voltage drop, by now, powering my camera (about 1,6 Amps) and turning on an external monitor (Blackmagic Video Assist 5 inch (first generation)) draws another 1,5 Amps or so: the voltage in the viewfinder drops a tenth of a Volt as soon as it is turned on. But that's okay for me: it will still power everything for 6 hours straight or so. I was all about trying to see if I could recell them myself, and that was a nice adventure.

[@devinmillermedia]

Why are people talking smack about the way he speaks? He's just a guy trying to give information. Some people have speech issues, they still are more than able to give information. Just slow down the video in settings.

[@davidsteege4119]

Can you charge the Soonwell with a D-Tap charger?

[@NeverlandProductions]

+American Outlaw Productions Yes! I had success with 5.5amp (the juicebox one) and a 3amp one

[@davidsteege4119]

Great, thank you!

[@agostonberko]

which is the lightest solution ?

[@NeverlandProductions]

Not shown in the video but the 130WH Soonwell works well and is physically smaller. But it's also a worse value ($1.19 per WH vs 1.17 on the 190wh option) and it wont last as long obviously Small Soonwell: 130wh: nvpro.co/smsoonwell $155 Soonwell 190wh: nvpro.co/soonwell $225 Best Value!

[@butaleo]

thanks man but please slow down! i thought i had speed on 1.5x lol

[@zoobiewa]

It's crazy, he edited it so that there was no space between breaths, like the audio version of removing periods at the ends of sentences and spaces between words.

[@Skandalista_fotograf]

I still dont know which battery i should get for 120 d II XD

[@NeverlandProductions]

I have a pinned comment at the top, but here you go: If you can find the Soonwell/rolux for under $250 In my opinion they have the best value overall Soonwell 230Wh: amzn.to/3c8eFTP | ebay.to/3cf4gpu Soonwell 190Wh: amzn.to/2L6JtbD The Comer is a great value but feels cheaper, still best bang/buck Comer 190Wh: amzn.to/3caklg3

[@Skandalista_fotograf]

@@NeverlandProductions Thank you :D I am selling 120dII and getting 300d ... it not powerful enough :D Enjoy living in Amsterdam :D

[@Pattern_seeker202]

Thanks!

[@Sir-Kay]

Even for those who English isn't their 1st language, this is just catastrophic. Not once did he answer the question he just talked & talked & talked and talked.

[@WWPLo]

I guess you're lying about the rolux. Did you actually run it for 2 hours? After watching this video I bought 2 v-mount batteries with 14,8V/15Ah output. Each of those batteries I tested on one of my 120d's. The transistors of both 120d controller boxes were burned through and destroyed after 10 minutes. Both 120d lights not functional anymore. Probably even the warranty will be void due to missuse. I see the rolux has a even higher current of 15.5Ah. The 120d runs on 9Ah, the input says 10Ah. The rolux has 5.5Ah more than recommended. So, how the fuck would you run the 120d for 2 hours on this battery without putting your house on fire?

[@NeverlandProductions]

A couple of things: Ah is not the same as max Amps, I actually try to explain that in the video, Ah measures the battreries capacity. Second, Max Amps is not the same as amps drawn, max amps means that the battery is able to output that power if necessary not that it will the whole time (otherwise battery life would be the same regardless of task, and/or you wouldn't be able to dim lights, these batteries would kill all cameras etc etc). Voltage, however, does contribute to the power being drawn by the device, in this case, the battery controllers. So one of two things happened: A, you actually have two defective units, which yeah seems unlikely. OR B. Your batteries are outputting a higher voltage, you could test that with a multimeter, that's what I'd do, make sure they're within 14-15V range, if they are I would contact aperture about it. As far as the batteries I recommended, I've used them several times now all the way through at all sorts of outputs and even on the 300D. I like them I know you're probably mad at me (unjustly so) but I'm actually quite interested to hear how this turns out if you would'nt mind sharing. If the batteries are the problem I'd like to add a warning to others not to use that specific brand. Best of luck

[@technotron1014]

Exactly. Amperage is completely dependent on the load drawn. If you have a 10A socket in your house with nothing plugged into it, does it shoot 10A of power out of the wall into the air? No. If you plug a small light bulb in, it will draw the power required for the light bulb. If you plug a big light bulb in, that pulls 10A, it will deliver. Simple electronic principles.

[@jennyluvsfood]

oh no

[@weeardguy]

@@NeverlandProductions Darn, if you have to make sure your batteries are within a certain voltage range, the product they need to power is not suited for V-mount application. Standard V-mount voltages range from 12 Volt (fully depleted) to 16,8 Volt (fully charged). I know there are lights out there that go all the way down to 10,8 Volt, but consider your V-mounts dead if you drain them to that point. You are then well below the 3 Volt threshold that is still considered a safe fully-discharged state, even though many manufacturers now state their cells to be fully depleted at 2,75 Volt or even 2,5 Volt.

[@JAYFULFILMZ]

Bro. Video had all the information I needed & more but got damnit you speak fast lol I had to slow it down to 0.75x lol bro ya brain processing speed & power gotta be equivalent to an 8 Core i9 with 64GB of ram, 5600M 8GB graphics card with 4TB of storage 🤣🤣🤣

[@sorogoitkatrum8647]

I like to think that when people want to make videos "I have a train to catch" style (which I hate but young people seem to think it makes them look "modern"), at least they should have good diction and decent memory. Otherwise you end up having cuts not on every sentence but, almost every word. One should be at least able to complete sentences or ideas before cutting the shot. And then talking too fast for your own diction, is a no-no. Other than that, thanks for the info presented on this video. It has value.

[@thienthanhnguyen4803]

You talked damn fast and the video don't have subtitles .

[@wesleykelemen6749]

Thanks

[@mitchfraser3921]

Lol, what a fail. That 10A on the DTap OUTPUT on the light means you can run up to 10A on it. That does NOT mean the light needs 10A

[@NeverlandProductions]

More or less. I didn't know at the time but it's more so a rating. As in, you shouldn't use more than 10A on a DTap port. Yeah it's not technically accurate, it's an old video due for an update but it's also inconsequential. The light uses about 120w and so, worth a 14.7 V V mount - that's about 8.2 Amps. So yes, the light does "NOT" need 10A, it just needs 82% of that. The juice box still falsely advertised up to 10A and failed to deliver while the other batteries didn't. Btw just like you can charge a V mount through the Dtap (as an input) you can power lights through the Dtap too. So no, it's not just an "OUTPUT"...

[@skybizvideomediaproduction6167]

WTF did you u say ?? I had to listen 3x and still i felt i missed most of it. The problem was you jump cuts are tooooo close together, its OK put a space in there and let us listen to what your saying. I think you said Rolux was good, I hope so cos I just purchased two of them after watching this... Christ I hope you said they were good and not crap.... !!!

[@entredeuxbouchees]

Dude, slow down, I'm not THAT into an hurry. 0___0

[@jbcolson1027]

I couldn't make out about half of this.

[@IconicMVz]

What?

[@thomaswindfeld728]

Good info but you talk way to fast for no reason. Good value info gets lost. I still dont know what to get

[@soroushbillford7647]

BRO is someone chasing you or something??!! talk slower next time!

[@gerardobello1747]

Dude is good info but you talk to fast.

[@sebastienbindoul7544]

You are talking way to FAST.

[@klinkstudios3542]

I didn't hear a word... mennn take a look at your own video

[@davidhanson888]

you're in a hurry explaining,.. didn't bother finishing your video.

[@TheOneMonk]

I think you know a lot about the subject. But. Pls show the subject of the discussion, i.e. V-Mount batteries, for longer than just a fraction of a second. Yes, I can pause the video, but that is not the idea of an explanatory video, is it? Also, and sorry to say this: half of what you are saying is incomprehensible, at least for an international audience. Pls speak slower and if possible try to avoid slurring words. Finally: if you tag a video with Aputure 300d don‘t tell your audience in the last second of the video that you don‘t have the light. Thanks.

[@NeverlandProductions]

Thank you for the feedback, (though I've heard most of it before haha) I even made an updated video. As far as tagging the 300D, when I released this video that light wasn't even for sale. I mention in the description that I do own a 300D now and have tested it, heck since then I've even tested it with a friend's MkII.

[@WINDSHEAR-STUDIO]

Can you talk a bit faster please.

[@karlvandenhole9342]

Talk even faster so we don't understand anything anymore.

[@Dstonephoto]

Haha breathe gurl.

[@josephnicklo2994]

slow down dude.

[@OmniVisionElite]

Slowwwwwww down bud

[@alexanderlejo3910]

This fast ass talking is really making my head hurt..