Always glad to see a new sim racing company and even happier when they start off making quality products because of the feedback they received.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
They are amazing. I’m super impressed and they have huge potential. I’ve been following their progress for a long time and everything they set out to achieve, they have achieved I think. There’s some more refinement but nobody who buys this shifter will be disappointed. It’s amazing.
@emde1742 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa they just released pedals so much smoother then sprints in my opinion
@OhItsThat3 жыл бұрын
Im spoiled with the Pro Sim but it’s still fantastic to see another H pattern on the market. Hope we see more in the future. H patterns are definitely lagging behind in the sim racing hardware market.
@IsandJako3 жыл бұрын
amazing review like always all the info you need without any interruptions
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ❤️ they’re a lot of work, these reviews, but the end result is usually worth it. I spotted some editing mistakes but as long as the message is clear, that’s all that matters
@alexbui13853 жыл бұрын
Superb review, LD. Big thanks for putting our product through its paces and going above and beyond with this such valuable feedback! As you may already know, our handbrake is releasing soon and a side mounting solution to the VNM shifter will definitely be considered for implementation. Sooooo hopefully the VNM shifter will win its place back on your rig from the Fanatec shifter hahaha. Seriously though, loved the review. Keep it up!
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment :) the ease of switching is the main priority for me. If it had a quick/easy switch, even if it was 20 seconds, it would still be on my rig rig rig right now. I stuck to my word and fitted the fanatec to my rig again. I have lost some immersion in favour of practicality. The VNM will be back on my rig when the time is right
@alexbui13853 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa To shorten the time it takes to swap the plates, I tighten only 2 of the nuts instead of all 4... the new knobs make it a lot faster too. Too bad we weren't able to get them to you. Still, we appreciate you being one of our earliest supporters from the get go with your valuable feedback.
@timt81993 жыл бұрын
@@alexbui1385 have you thought about implementing knurled thumb screws instead? It would allow for quick changes without tools. I mentioned it to Hoan.
@alexbui13853 жыл бұрын
@@timt8199 believe it or not, it was intially my idea to use those thumb screws during the design phase but Hoan was concerned about "aesthetics" lol. The team wanted to have a flat and clean look without anything protruding from the plates. But that is at the cost of ease of use. Im glad we are finally looking into using thumb screws.
@timt81993 жыл бұрын
@@alexbui1385 They have different style thumb screws, which shouldn't take away from the overall aesthetic of the shifter. The ability to switch plates fast (without tools) is a huge benefit.
@jonboy29503 жыл бұрын
Great review, i think your approach of trying out a product over a length of time and then publishing a review gives us a really good insight into the product.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
It suits me best. I don't need to be the first to market with a review. It's great for 'views' but in the long run i want to do best by the people who watch these videos
@olof103eriksson2 жыл бұрын
Ive had it for quite a while now and its still excellent. Its something Im glad to recommend to others
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I still use mine too. Great piece of kit
@nathan129754063 жыл бұрын
fantastic review as usual LD.. great insight into the product. keep up the great work.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great comment
@espressomatic2 жыл бұрын
Update for 2022. This shifter is now $300 before shipping, putting it about $50 more expensive than Fanatec's.
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it sucks when the prices go up :(
@dark4yoyo Жыл бұрын
This looks like a very nice product, but it's a shame it's now over 300€ + shipping... Same thing seems to have happened to the VNM handbrake as well, V1 is 260€ and V2 over 300€
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Yep their costs went up :(
@HerrLoeblich2 жыл бұрын
aaah! finally someone else who takes his shifter out in the park for a walk
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?! Why don’t people do this more often?
@HerrLoeblich2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa i dont know! i have a couple of them. you can imagine what a huddle this always is with the leashes and stuff and everyone wants to run in another direction and catch cars or sniff on peoples butts x-D
@PandesalDrift3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Great review as always.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @pandesaldrift! It took a long long time to do this one
@timl98703 жыл бұрын
I've had the V2 for a couple of months now, and it, hands down, blows away the fanatec and shh shifters, which I have all three. I loved the shh, excellent shifter for the money. With the new quick release knobs, the transition time for me on my VNM sequential plate is under a minute, using a longer t-allen wrench. This 'several minutes' transition time is unrealistic, even with the V1. You will NOT have to buy two separate shifters. This is an excellent shifter in build quality, functionality, and what an amazing price. Like Alex mentions down below, maybe you should consider putting the VNM back on your rig....
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
By the time I grab my tools and the other shifter plate, unscrew the gear knob take out the 6 bolts, pop in the other shifter plate and do it all up again and flick the switch, it definitely takes me a lot more than a minute. But 30 seconds is too long for me. I can’t do that when I’m live in stream or get a spur of the moment urge to drive another car. Nobody has to buy 2 shifters. I’ve been tempted so I mentioned it. Having the VNM on my rig right now just doesn’t suit me. In the same way VR doesn’t suit me. I know it’s a better experience but the hoops I have to jump through make it a more grinding experience to use from day to day. Once I’m in race and configured, there’s no place I’d rather be. Same goes for the VNM.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
All that said, I long for the day that it will be my #1 shifter
@alexbui13853 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I actually can relate to your experience having to jump through so many hoops to use the shifter in a different configuration. Because of the lack of space, i cannot have a dedicated monitor fixed to my rig and so every time i want to go for a drive i have to carry my monitor across the desk and line it up correctly in front of the rig. It is such a pain that i find myself losing a bit of love for sim racing even though i still dream of ripping some laps in my rig when i am at work. Oh well, it is what it is. We will definitely go back to the original design and try to figure out a faster way to switch between modes in the future. Maybe release a VNM Shifter V2 once our product lineup is complete?
@alexbui13853 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words, Tim. Nothing makes us more happy than to hear you have had a good experience with our product. I'm not even the designer or participate too actively in production - I'm just their social media guy/product consultant/tester but this makes me feel so much more positive about what VNM is striving for.
@Simlife1013 жыл бұрын
So your one was number one and hand assembled? I wish they would just send out one that will be sent out when purchasing because we have no idea if this is just a review quality model and not mass produced which could be completely different and better or worse quality. But i appreciate your in depth review which was great
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
That’s always a risk, I guess. However, this wasn’t a sample or a review model, this was purchased just like everyone else and it’s only normal that a company reinvests in machinery for their production line over time.
@Salutifer0us3 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but excellent review as always. This one seems like really great product in theory - amazing build quality, great feeling in H pattern mode and sequential, versatile mounting options, great price. But, it lacks the small refinements that other products offer, and they really can affect the comfort. The hassle of shifting between H pattern and sequential(it's a big concern mostly for dirt rally as you change cars all the time and you'd have to keep changing the gates back and forth) can be off putting in the long run, especially knowing with other shifters you can do that in a literal second. The way fanatec one goes well with their ecosystem is also something to keep in mind. Overall, this has potential, lots of potential, but a bit better design in some areas would really give it an edge - the new twist grip to tighten knobs are a step in the right direction, maybe the plates could be magnetic? or have thumb screws? Lots of ideas they may come up with. It's definitely a great product, but it could be an amazing one in the future.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
The gate switching is getting easier but still hassle. I must say though that it has made its way BACK onto my rig now. I really missed it. The fanatec just didn’t give me the same feelings
@chrispietersen8043 жыл бұрын
Class review LD! Love it! Product looks good but would love to have seen some form of integration to the fanatec eco system (I know that this is yet to be done from any brand but a man can hope)
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
No company will ever get that opportunity and if they do it without permission then they’ll be crucified in court. I’m surprised there aren’t third party solutions though. Maybe there are.
@mercenarysaw2 жыл бұрын
Great videos love the detailed reviews . Subbed. Shifter on the he way!🏁🏁
@minkikato3 жыл бұрын
Great review Laurence, so tempting... That S13 tho! Yours?
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah that’s mine. Look my up on insta for more pics ;)
@minkikato3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Mad!
@alc_media3 жыл бұрын
Great Review, well done!
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I appreciate the comment!
@TeamFajita2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! What's better? The SSH shifter or the new project d shifter? Considering they're around the same price which would you choose?
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t used the project d shifter. If you want me to review one, it’s best you tell them that directly. I don’t generally reach out to companies but if they see that people want me to review one then it usually works out better.
@Joaofigas12 жыл бұрын
We all should support those new and start companies , to take the big monopolly of giant companies , sometimesa smaller companie can make a better product then a big and well know companie!
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
it's a risk though. if a company has not proven themselves then it's difficult to send them all of your savings
@Joaofigas12 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Indeed however if they show effort and "join forces" with their first clients its a big promise in future!
@ThePudgyPlatypi Жыл бұрын
All you have to do to beat the Fanatec shifter is to not have it miss shifts or slam you into reverse after a few months of use because dust or some other shit disrupts the PCBs and you have to rip the darn thing apart and clean it all the time....
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
hahaha fair
@chicagoal37312 жыл бұрын
IF this was ACTUALLY was $200, I’d get it. BUT ITS NOT! Not only his it over 25% more ($259) but the shipping is more than Fanatec! I’d love to get it, but be honest about the price. Any discounts or fires selling it for $200 let me know, but I just checked w VNM and NO, it’s $259!
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
The price was 100% correct at the time of this video. Unfortunately I cannot tell the future, cannot control a company’s decision to increase their prices, and cannot edit a video that has already been published. These days I usually put a disclaimer to say that prices can change but realistically, that’s just what happens and often new products are sold at a loss or minimal profit just to establish a market share.
@chicagoal37312 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I understand that. It was directed so that others that read the review have updated info. You did a great review.
@nmelol Жыл бұрын
How does H compare to Simagic ds-8x?
@reibato80222 жыл бұрын
I am somewhat disappointed with the price. € 249 + € 20 shipping and it does not come with the mounting brackets ... Now if I want them it will be another € 30 + 20 ... In the end more expensive than Fanatec. Another option is to look for a universal shifter plate but it is not easy to find in Spain with the measures of 6x6 cm ... And I suppose it would be less rigid than with the clamps. Greetings
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the price increases are a bit of a problem :(
@KuSQ3N3 жыл бұрын
do you have a motion rig? or is that seat flex? Very nice video, I Have been looking for a h shifter for a while
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that’s a seat mover yeah. The next level racing v3 ;)
@KuSQ3N3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh :)
@bayernsa2 жыл бұрын
I placed an order thanks to this review, should feel good coming from th8a, no?
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
Amazing upgrade! Like going from a Ford Fiesta to a bmw 5 series :)
@emreturkeli Жыл бұрын
this is now more expensive than Fanatec in Europe... unbelievable.. :(
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Yep it is unfortunately.
@arccrenshaw83913 жыл бұрын
"Haytch pattern shifter"
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! 😂😂😂
@mercenarysaw2 жыл бұрын
"OrgyB"
@eisa313 Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to a frex shifter or something like a simvertex? I'm looking to upgrade from a th8a and want a decent h-pattern
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
I can’t offer any opinions there as I haven’t reviewed either of those unfortunately
@armLocalhost2 жыл бұрын
In the US with shipping and tax it costs the same as Fanatec. Given that do you think it's still better than Fanatec shifter?
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
yep, when I compare products and call one better than another, it's always regardless of the price. better is better. I do often mention which is better value, etc. But better means better and in both sequential and manual mode, this shifter is better. The slow change between those modes gives Fanatec a huge advantage. The casual sim racer will be happy with the simplicity of the fanatec. The more hardcore will go for the VNM
@wwjnz92633 жыл бұрын
I like the shifter, but I wish they had a quicker way to convert between H pattern and sequential. If they had a solution for that, I'd replace my TH8A with it, in a heart beat. The V2 sequential top plate is tempting though. I always thought I would need a Heusinkveld or a Aiologs shifter, to get that quality... You're not making it easy to say no, for now.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good upgrade from the th8a for sure. I think that they will solve the top plate swapping issues soon, for sure.
@InsideSimRacing3 жыл бұрын
Plate swap takes less than 5 minutes. ;-)
@TykeMison_3 жыл бұрын
It's great but the price is $200 no longer. Increased 30% to $260.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a pity. It is still worth it but unfortunately I cannot change the content of my review video now
@reibato80222 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me where you bought the universal shifter bracket? Thanks
@Driver.sti_3 жыл бұрын
203 / 5000 Do you have VNM vs Frex comparison? I'm looking for a racing shifter. In my TM TH8A or Fanatec, unfortunately, sometimes I do a miss shift. I'm looking for something precise and fast and it can't be a pro-sim ;)
@Fleshless19912 жыл бұрын
so, how would you compare the sequential mode to an aiologs or Others sequential shifters? A big downgrade or can it hang with a dedicated sequential shifter?
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great sequential shifter. I haven’t used the aiologs. It’s not as good as a jinx or pro-sim or a Simagic though.
@Fleshless19912 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa man, that sounds really tempting but as i would use it as a sequential most of the time i dont know if maybe an aiologs wouldnt be better for me. Any chance you will review the Aiologs stuff in the future?
@danielfietkau7333 ай бұрын
300$ today. not including the clamps (~30$), not including different H-Patterns (~15$ each)
@floodedcarb7028 Жыл бұрын
289 USD now
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
yeah the price has gone up a few times now :(
@Xellar1993 Жыл бұрын
200$ ???? Where? Show me the link. I see only for 300+
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Yeah things have changed since this video came out unfortunately
@barrymanon94593 жыл бұрын
The gear lever shaft looks so small. If that was changed it would look 10x better
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
It’s not the size of the shaft Barry... ;) Hahaha seriously though, I don’t have any issues with the shaft size.
@7agte3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa The Fanatec looks way more beefy like a real race car gear lever. This one to me looks like a Toy.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
The feel of both would suggest the opposite. Believe me, it’s far from a toy. It really needs to be taken seriously. The build quality and materials are top notch.
@mirshia52483 жыл бұрын
@@7agte yeah this guy is probably paid reviewer for saying its better than fanatec
@RedLP5000S3 жыл бұрын
VNM all day long. The price and quality are spot on. I just can't get along with a subpar 3D printed wannabe.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t knock the SHH until you try it :) but the VNM is incredible
@RedLP5000S3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa as much as I'm sure that it's perfectly capable, the fact that it's 3D printed tells me all that I need to know.
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Again, it’s very surprising and well engineered. The feeling for gear shifts is excellent. Don’t knock it until you try it ;)
@Simlife1013 жыл бұрын
Can i ask for a link to your button box off to the left of your rig cheers
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
Sure! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoimdph7o8qtnq8 it’s a bit pricey. I got it second hand.
@Simlife1013 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa After spending almost 5k pricy is the new norm for me. once you go high end its hard to buy less quality items
@FronkG2 жыл бұрын
it cost about 280 usd now
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
yep they've gone up in price with inflation and freight and taxes and all that :(
@karlhungus54511 ай бұрын
Too bad they jacked the price up so much to the point it's now double the cost of the MOZA HGP shifter.
@lethargic22213 жыл бұрын
would you prefer this or the shh one , having reviewed both of them?
@LaurenceDusoswa3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the VNM but the SHH is the best value shifter out there. If you can afford the VNM, get it, just be aware that the change from manual to sequential is a bit tedious with the VNM
@lethargic22213 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks a lot. i think i'll go with the shh since its very cheap and good.
@rcdb41602 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I have the th8a with clixbeetle mod pro and short throw gear... if I buy the vnm ...is a good upgrade?..
@jasonrehm9793 Жыл бұрын
It's too bad that 3rd party sellers have jacked the price up to where it now costs more than Fanatec...
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
They were upped by VNM themselves too due to costs and stuff
@1uponu7052 жыл бұрын
Will this work on the new fanatec csl dd?
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a standalone USB shifter. Only works on PC
@Not_Lewis Жыл бұрын
This is no longer $200. With a table clamp this comes out to $300 based on the 3 prices I checked on the retailers as of 2023
@daemon3spade2 жыл бұрын
the 7 gear plate should come free..
@LaurenceDusoswa2 жыл бұрын
I think that the margins are quite fine so they need to charge for what they can