What’s Fueling Fresh Fighting in Eastern DRC?

In this edition of Straight Talk Africa, host Haydé Adams discusses the recent clashes in eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo between the Congolese army and M23 rebels that has propelled thousands of people to flee their towns and villages near Goma. She is joined by VOA Africa reporter Anasthasie Tudieshe, the executive director of CongoToday, Jean Paul Ruhosa and independent analyst Patrick B. Sabineza.

[@skywater8637]

I am South African and Reunionais. My parents always told me how Rwanda is responsible for Africa set backs. They believe that if the DRC is doing well, the whole continent of Africa will do better. It’s really sad to have Rwandese people as fellow Africans 😢. Last year our friends from the U.S relocated their wedding country-venue from Rwanda to Japan because of what Rwanda was doing to its neighbors. Finally the world is waking up

[@user-ho2ed6ij4f]

Hahh your parents do not know the history of Rwanda and congo and the roots of the problem,considering the fact that you are a south africa it's a shame you forgot what you passed through during appartheid when you didn't have right in your own country,you had to apply for citizenship in your own country and that's why you fought to have rights in your own country which is the same in congo,during colonisation belgians partitioned the kingdom of Rwanda and took 3/4 of Rwanda land with Rwandans and put the land and the people onto congo,tanzania and Uganda but congo has refused to recognize those people as congolese so they do not have right on their own land,congo wants that land but doesn't want the people who came with that land,congo government always kill those people mainly Tutsi by saying they must go back to Rwanda but the people are not Rwandans they are congolese by default because their land was attached to congo by colonizers.so those people have formed a rebel army to defend themselves and fight for their right and yes if i was a president of my country i would definitely support them 100% they are fighting for their rights ,they are fighting for a good cause and congo always blames Rwanda instead of resolving that problem of striping those people of their rights to their own ancestors'land.

[@jospinfingy8495]

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WAR IN THE CONGO 🇨🇩 DRC: After migration of thousands of Africans ethnicity. In 14 to 15th centuries those Tutsi came from Ethiopia 🇪🇹 and Somalia 🇸🇴 then immigrated to Rwanda 🇷🇼 . That times they didn't have any land cause they were warriors marionettes utilized by the west during their wars. So at their local areas in Somalia and Ethiopia they got told to move away as they went to help white people in Europe 🇪🇺, then they came back in Africa and installed themselves in Rwanda then they spread later in Uganda , Tanzania , Kenya, Burundi, etc. No single one was in the Congo yet. Then they went to Rwanda and starting fighting local people there and change power all the times by war sometimes they were on power , sometimes local people. In 1950s , the lost war and power to local people so they fled to Congo in South Kivu , they name that place Mulenge. So that's why those ones in Congo are called Banyamulenge. Our former president decided to help them , which now is considered the biggest mistake our former President Mobutu did, he announced that every who was in the Congo 🇨🇩 DRC before the independence in 1960 became Congolese. So Banyamulenge became Congolese in that way as I have told you it was a biggest mistake every Congolese will tell you these. In 1994 , Tutsi and Hutu (local people) they started to kill each other, apparently they kill more Tutsi cause Hutu had more access to guns and matchetes those are history they teach every Congolese in school from primary to University. So Hutu lost the war because French lied to them to do cease fire 🔥 and they tell those Hutu to go to Congo, the Congolese government accepted to welcome them, another big mistake because other neighbouring countries refused to welcome them genocidaire as neutral person as me, Hutu did bad by killing innocent babies we saw on the movies and history at school. In 1996, Rwanda government Tutsi and few Congolese politicians removed mobutu on power through war called AFDL liberation, every Congolese was happy cause Mobutu was a dictator and war there for 32 years. And the had of that Liberation movement AFDL became president of Zaire and change the name to colonial name Congo and post colonial name Congo before Mobutu. After Liberation in 1998, when the president of the country and of liberation told Rwanda government to go back to Rwanda they were angry and started a another war called RCD Goma. WARS IN MY DRC TILL NOW : as I said the biggest mistakes was to allow Tutsi Banyamulenge to be Congolese in 1970s , and to Welcome Hutu Génocidaire in the Congo as Refugees. Rwanda 🇷🇼 government through these wars used discriminatory allegations that Banyamulenge have been mistread in the Congo 🇨🇩, which is not true cause these people have been with US Congolese since before until wars and Genocide of Rwanda that's there are Hutu and Tutsi we used to know all are Rwandan our brothers and our sisters until their government brought these separation in Rwanda and in the Congo. Everytime Rwanda does wars in the Congo they came as to look for Hutu Génocidaires or they came to support Banyamulenge in the Congo 🇨🇩 so that they government can treat them well. First of all, we don't know who is Tutsi Munyamulenge and who is Tutsi Rwandan because they are all the same , speak same language, they all against Congolese governments all the times. Secondly, that confusion Rwandan government use it to infiltrate our government so that all the times when there's negotiations between Congolese government and rebellious Banyamulenge wars, they government of Rwanda will impose and infiltrate its military in our Government so they can have access to our government information and those Rwandais military 🪖 need to be highly ranked as general ,major, colonels, and so on. In Conclusion, Rwanda government with its rebellious allied, and its genocidiary system comes in the Congo for several reasons: - Working for super power countries : USA, France, UK, Belgium, and European Unions so that they can give them Congo 🇨🇩 's natural resources for free or at cheaper cost. - Congo 🇨🇩 is so bigger and Richest country in the World when it comes to natural resources. -Divide Congo 🇨🇩 so that the poorest and smallest country , Rwanda can be bigger and Richer. - kill all Congolese if it's possible and take over - Send Rwandan citizens as Banyamulenge ("means Congolese Tutsi " apparently) send them as Congolese refugees in Australia, USA, UK, France, Belgium, Europe, North America, New Zealand, etc so that one day they can come and divide Congo or bring huge war in their favor in the Congo. They make sure once the Rwanda citizens arrive in the those developed countries they can do army so that they can go weaken the Congo. -Over half millions Rwandese have gone to those countries as Congolese when they are not even Congolese or Banyamulenge but Rwandais who speak Kinywarwanda or English. While languages spoke in the Congo 🇨🇩 are French as Official language, 4 nation languages: Kikongo, Kiswahili, Tshiluba, and Lingala. Plus , 450 plus dialects and every dialects correspond to language of each tribe. Such for your information there is no tribe in the Congo called Banyamulenge or Tutsi Congolese don't exist and will never exist. - Every Tutsi Rwandais want to be Congolese. - Gain more from war in the Congo by raping Congolese women cause most those soldiers or Rwanda origin have HIV aids. -Kill all Congolese if they can so Rwanda can take over. - Rwanda Government and its genocidiary system have killed over 20 million Congolese citizens since 1996 till present. - Rape all Congolese women : every 5 minutes these people have raped over 30 millions women, children and boys , men. - Causing Atrocities so that local Congolese people can leave their houses 🏠 , lands so that Rwanda can take over. - Congolese Army cannot win any kind of wars against any rebellious group founded, supported and created by Rwanda because Congolese army is infiltrate by Rwandan soldiers imposed at so called negotiations which imposed by the west on profits of the west and Rwanda government. - Kill as many Congolese people as they can cause they West supports Rwanda government and make the media silent that's why there's a silent biggest genocide happening in the Congo 🇨🇩 cause Rwanda are killing us Congolese and the west and media are silent

[@redocla673]

This black analyst is making up stuff. Either lying or doesn't know what she is talking about. You should have DR Congolese speak about DR Congolese not a foreigner who does not know anything about it.

[@Notmyrealname69420]

Well they’re Americans so… Congo has media too

[@user-ho2ed6ij4f]

Yes these are congolese and you are pissed because they are of Tutsi congolese hence speak truth on how the congo government is killing them.your problem is one you hate it when people are exposing your lies as you always like to play victims.

[@EricChe-mr7rz]

thank you for bringing this fellows they have explained well the situation in DRC THE CONFLICTS SHOULD ALWAYS ENDER UP IN DIALOGUE

[@ATK1able]

Tell FDLR to talk with Rwanda that the only talk will take place. U know hw many talk have been take place so far? The result in weaken DRC and create any other army group?

[@wilsongafurero4284]

Dialogue with who? M23 is 99% Rwandan tutsi, in DRC there isn't a tribe called tutsi, tutsi have no land in DRC, tutsi land is found in Rwanda so they have to go back to their country, that's why DRC president is serious, no negotiation with M23 a Rwanda terrorist group which has killed so far more than 10 millions of innocent Congolese, For 25 years Kagame has been playing in the DRC like a monkey 🐒 in a maize field, no more misbehaving, keep sending tutsis in DRC they will face the Wazalendo.

[@emmanuelkabeyankonko4720]

So my understanding is that the tutsi are the main cause of trouble in DRC. Mr J Paul doesn't know nothing about the region. How dare he is claiming that we can't blame kagame for the crisis in DRC? Congo will fight not talk.

[@renaumurutasate]

Which gives more chances for M23 to win 😂❤❤

[@papymukadi1420]

because he is tutsi like kagame

[@mosesmwesigye4958]

Why is it so hard to talk to M23 and have this resolved??

[@renaumurutasate]

Because they don’t want the world to reveal M23 truth 😢😢that they are victims 😢

[@fortunesemwaga9852]

My question bro it’s crazy how they think

[@wilsongafurero4284]

M23 is 99% rwandese tutsi, why do you want these Rwanda criminals to negotiate with Tshisekedi?

[@lelkaya7912]

The facts are, M23 is a disguise of Kaga.. Rwandan army. Also, there were talks already in Naïrobi and Luanda, but M23 did not adhere to the resolution of ceasefire.

[@lelkaya7912]

M23 want the government to stuff Banyarwanda on 40% of army officers post in the Congolese army which is made of +450 tribes of authentic Congolese. That another big issue

[@babytigheyes]

There wont be any dialogue , any rebelion need a back up from somewhere .and how can you bring someone that dont have any clue about the conflict ?

[@johnbyamungumuzinga4363]

You brought only pro rwanda analystes

[@twazagroup9003]

But my question is, why didn't this comment arise when people speak Kinyarwanda? We were killed in Congo remember banyamurenge who were killed in Congo and then talk your No words with selfish of yours

[@JSTN531]

it's sad brother no one cares about us

[@clauderwiyaza9571]

Jean Paul is biased in his point of view because he is avoiding to say Rwanda’s implications in the conflict in drc. Correction, the war in East DRC didn’t start in south Kivu. It started in North Kivu(1991) even before the genocide in Rwanda. In addition, this was not about the Banyamulenge as he mentioned but it was about the Tutsi and Hutu against the Hunde, Nyanga, and Nande. And to summer it up, this conflict was resolved and Niether hutu or Tutsi left the country. However, the 1994 war in Rwanda is the beginning of the war that the M23 is fighting up to now which Rwanda started as to return the genociders. Up to this day it’s the same excuses. Now, as opposed to Jean Paul I agree that the dynamics of the war has changed to involved the banyamulenge grievances and the economic side involving the minerals of DRC that Rwanda and Uganda fought about in the town of Kisangani. Since Coltan was discovered in Eastern DRC 3 different negotiations took place between drc government and the same rebels that formed the RCD, CNDP, M23, and now M23b. And as Jean Paul should know, there is a saying that if you do the same thing you cannot expect a different result. That’s why drc parliament has voted to not do what was done before because including the rebels(who by the way keep on deserting after every reunification) has weekend the drc military.

[@papymukadi1420]

you said it all

[@peterbisala6875]

Where M23 are getting weapons? Those who give guns to rebels are to blame:Rwanda

[@fortunesemwaga9852]

They capture weapons from the drc army and they get funding from all the millions of refugees they have around the world that have fled the ethnic cleaning

[@22674]

Fardc

[@lelkaya7912]

M23 is a disguise of Kaga.. Rwandan army.

[@lelkaya7912]

Dear Congolese in U.S. let us call VOA to protest against their manipulations: notice that everytime VOA speaks about wars in Congo, they always invite these Banyarwanda-Congolese. Rarely they invite an authentic Congolese. This is not right. Because M23 is a disguise of Kaga.. Rwandan army. Also, there were talks already in Naïrobi and Luanda, but M23 did not adhere to the resolution of ceasefire, and so… LET US PROTEST BY ASKING A RIGHT OF JUSTIFICATION FROM AUTHENTIC CONGOLESE PLZ.

[@aimableshingiro4059]

M23 are fighting for their rights. They get weapons from their enemies/Ghost army of drc and sadec! If pple are fighting 4their rights, they are scared of nothing!

[@julesmabundo8886]

This Anastasie is wrong saying that Congolese are frustrated when 12 millions of Congolese were killed That a big shame on her

[@mginnocent3804]

Thanks for the interesting talk, Can someone help me and tell me how many mines M23 has under control please??

[@dusabimanaclement4314]

This problem is caused by poor leadership of drc cause they promote discrimination and injustices among their citizens (for example:they tried to wipe out the Tutsi tribes living in north and south kivu,they have been killing my people since 1992 till now and they are blaming everyone instead of taking accountability for their leadership (I’m myself a victim of this nonsense , this is a bigger problem and this is the outcomes of colonization.

[@JSTN531]

tell them brother it's very sad that congolese people think that we're rwandans while rwandans also believe that we're congolese it's our responsibility to fight for our rights and freedom otherwise we will stay in refugee camps forever.

[@koliverkadimashi9325]

Where are you coming from?

[@lelkaya7912]

These are lies. Banyarwanda tutsi and Kagame has killed millions of Congolese. These are facts that can be found in many experts reports, especially, the Mapping Report. Where did Congolese killed Banyarwanda? Name me 2 places because, just, from last year M23 Banyarwanda has committed more than 5 big scale massacres in Bambo, Kishishe, Kitchanga, Mweso, Mushake, and they’re bombing civilians areas in Sake and Goma.

[@JSTN531]

@@lelkaya7912 it's easy try to google the names of congolese refugees camps in rwanda and uganda even burund then you'll see those lies you're talking about and i don't even mention those around the world who were lucky to get asylum seekers in america and elsewhere

[@jospinfingy8495]

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WAR IN THE CONGO 🇨🇩 DRC: After migration of thousands of Africans ethnicity. In 14 to 15th centuries those Tutsi came from Ethiopia 🇪🇹 and Somalia 🇸🇴 then immigrated to Rwanda 🇷🇼 . That times they didn't have any land cause they were warriors marionettes utilized by the west during their wars. So at their local areas in Somalia and Ethiopia they got told to move away as they went to help white people in Europe 🇪🇺, then they came back in Africa and installed themselves in Rwanda then they spread later in Uganda , Tanzania , Kenya, Burundi, etc. No single one was in the Congo yet. Then they went to Rwanda and starting fighting local people there and change power all the times by war sometimes they were on power , sometimes local people. In 1950s , the lost war and power to local people so they fled to Congo in South Kivu , they name that place Mulenge. So that's why those ones in Congo are called Banyamulenge. Our former president decided to help them , which now is considered the biggest mistake our former President Mobutu did, he announced that every who was in the Congo 🇨🇩 DRC before the independence in 1960 became Congolese. So Banyamulenge became Congolese in that way as I have told you it was a biggest mistake every Congolese will tell you these. In 1994 , Tutsi and Hutu (local people) they started to kill each other, apparently they kill more Tutsi cause Hutu had more access to guns and matchetes those are history they teach every Congolese in school from primary to University. So Hutu lost the war because French lied to them to do cease fire 🔥 and they tell those Hutu to go to Congo, the Congolese government accepted to welcome them, another big mistake because other neighbouring countries refused to welcome them genocidaire as neutral person as me, Hutu did bad by killing innocent babies we saw on the movies and history at school. In 1996, Rwanda government Tutsi and few Congolese politicians removed mobutu on power through war called AFDL liberation, every Congolese was happy cause Mobutu was a dictator and war there for 32 years. And the had of that Liberation movement AFDL became president of Zaire and change the name to colonial name Congo and post colonial name Congo before Mobutu. After Liberation in 1998, when the president of the country and of liberation told Rwanda government to go back to Rwanda they were angry and started a another war called RCD Goma. WARS IN MY DRC TILL NOW : as I said the biggest mistakes was to allow Tutsi Banyamulenge to be Congolese in 1970s , and to Welcome Hutu Génocidaire in the Congo as Refugees. Rwanda 🇷🇼 government through these wars used discriminatory allegations that Banyamulenge have been mistread in the Congo 🇨🇩, which is not true cause these people have been with US Congolese since before until wars and Genocide of Rwanda that's there are Hutu and Tutsi we used to know all are Rwandan our brothers and our sisters until their government brought these separation in Rwanda and in the Congo. Everytime Rwanda does wars in the Congo they came as to look for Hutu Génocidaires or they came to support Banyamulenge in the Congo 🇨🇩 so that they government can treat them well. First of all, we don't know who is Tutsi Munyamulenge and who is Tutsi Rwandan because they are all the same , speak same language, they all against Congolese governments all the times. Secondly, that confusion Rwandan government use it to infiltrate our government so that all the times when there's negotiations between Congolese government and rebellious Banyamulenge wars, they government of Rwanda will impose and infiltrate its military in our Government so they can have access to our government information and those Rwandais military 🪖 need to be highly ranked as general ,major, colonels, and so on. In Conclusion, Rwanda government with its rebellious allied, and its genocidiary system comes in the Congo for several reasons: - Working for super power countries : USA, France, UK, Belgium, and European Unions so that they can give them Congo 🇨🇩 's natural resources for free or at cheaper cost. - Congo 🇨🇩 is so bigger and Richest country in the World when it comes to natural resources. -Divide Congo 🇨🇩 so that the poorest and smallest country , Rwanda can be bigger and Richer. - kill all Congolese if it's possible and take over - Send Rwandan citizens as Banyamulenge ("means Congolese Tutsi " apparently) send them as Congolese refugees in Australia, USA, UK, France, Belgium, Europe, North America, New Zealand, etc so that one day they can come and divide Congo or bring huge war in their favor in the Congo. They make sure once the Rwanda citizens arrive in the those developed countries they can do army so that they can go weaken the Congo. -Over half millions Rwandese have gone to those countries as Congolese when they are not even Congolese or Banyamulenge but Rwandais who speak Kinywarwanda or English. While languages spoke in the Congo 🇨🇩 are French as Official language, 4 nation languages: Kikongo, Kiswahili, Tshiluba, and Lingala. Plus , 450 plus dialects and every dialects correspond to language of each tribe. Such for your information there is no tribe in the Congo called Banyamulenge or Tutsi Congolese don't exist and will never exist. - Every Tutsi Rwandais want to be Congolese. - Gain more from war in the Congo by raping Congolese women cause most those soldiers or Rwanda origin have HIV aids. -Kill all Congolese if they can so Rwanda can take over. - Rwanda Government and its genocidiary system have killed over 20 million Congolese citizens since 1996 till present. - Rape all Congolese women : every 5 minutes these people have raped over 30 millions women, children and boys , men. - Causing Atrocities so that local Congolese people can leave their houses 🏠 , lands so that Rwanda can take over. - Congolese Army cannot win any kind of wars against any rebellious group founded, supported and created by Rwanda because Congolese army is infiltrate by Rwandan soldiers imposed at so called negotiations which imposed by the west on profits of the west and Rwanda government. - Kill as many Congolese people as they can cause they West supports Rwanda government and make the media silent that's why there's a silent biggest genocide happening in the Congo 🇨🇩 cause Rwanda are killing us Congolese and the west and media are silent

[@imanuehl]

There have been dialogues before, what did it solve? I think VOA is inviting the wrong people... don t have them back in the show, please invite the knowledgable people here

[@MikeFideli]

I agree 100%

[@paulvugukuri4975]

The truth hurt

[@user-hd5fs3mh8g]

Patrick Sadec didn’t defend M23

[@julesmabundo8886]

Get Congolese to explain than bringing you pro support lol Tutsi must speak for rwanda not Congo we have more than 450 ethnies in Congo and we are all minority Hutu and Tutsi belongs to rwanda

[@dannydn8083]

Jea- Paul Ruhosa, there's nothing in Congo as a division of Ethnic. This is a lie from Hell. Tutsi people in Congo aren't Congolese. They are all Refugees who fled From Rwanda some of them since 1959. There's no tribe in Congo called BANYAMULENGE. MULENGE IS MONTAIN. There have never been a conflict between Congo and Rwanda when the HUTU were in power until 1994 when the TUTSI led by KAGAME came in power in Rwanda. M23 aren't Congolese. They are Rwandeese. There will never be a dialogue between Congo and the M23. We know that The western countries ( USA, EUROPE, GLOBALISTS, and Multinationals) are the ones BACKING KAGAME to commit GENOCIDE in CONGO in order freely take Congolese minerals. We will never dialogue neither with M23 nor Rwanda ( they are USA, EU, GLOBALISTS, MULTINATIONALS small boys .

[@ntare000]

u confirmed what they are talking about cause those congolese rwandophones especially tutsi are being denied right to citizenship yet those places are in congo though before colonialism they were in rwanda

[@RugiraKagigiMutoka]

Denying a part of your population is the beginning of Balkanization. UN doesn’t care about your feelings and medieval mindset.

[@MikeFideli]

This ridiculous. Instead of bringing actual Congolese people to speak on the panel, you are bringing non Congolese to speak on Congo matters. Extremely disappointed in the VOA Africa.

[@kihendoyoram7554]

I appreciate the sense of idea to mr jampo it trying to analyse for both internal government of kinshasha to sit down to accept the peace talk with m23 helped by international guidance instead of trying to create conflicts with the some neighbours countries

[@overcomerstabernacle6247]

Why you guys have this tutti view. America and it alliés are feeling the war via Rwanda

[@clementgavi7290]

What's fueling fresh fighting in Sudan since the other Sudan, called South Sudan has gone through the same tragedy? What else should have happened to us as Africans and us as Africa? No far from this Eastern DRC, in 1994 we offered the world the images of human atrocities, we called genocide. A few months ago, in Tigray's region of Ethiopia we offered the same atrocities. Years ago, we did the same in South Sudan. While there were already atrocities in Eastern DRC, we added another one in Sudan. The refugee camps are plenty and full. The so-called internally displaced are thousands and of all ages. What else should have happened to Africa and to Africans before the understanding of the necessity of reason, restraint, hope, pity and the fear of the Mystery? What are we doing with our own history? While we may be cursed by sectarianism, we can certainly be blessed by spiritualism by making God our horizon, hope, humility, mercy and restraint, our prospects for being able to live in Africa like these Africans who, like others, have become. That is to say who have a story.

[@babytigheyes]

I'm getting upset when I hear this , so this guy on the studio try to say that all the army in the world will failed to defeat the rebel ?

[@davidcy7]

I think what Patrick and Paul are saying is that, M23 Can be defeated but the Tutsi minority can never be defeated. They will always come back to claim there land and rights either as M23 or any other name. You remember they used to be called CNDP before. So war will never end, it might be paused but will come back later. So what's the point of pausing the war? Pausing the war is just bad for DRC and the region, we will always see wars in the great lakes and therefore less development. You cannot exterminate tutsi or any other ethnicity. Mobilizing the whole country to hate everyone who speaks kinyarwanda to the point in primary schools a tutsi or a kinyarwanda speaking person in DRC is hated and treated like a dog is just wrong and will always initiate war. We need to take an example of Rwanda. Rwanda is currently growing just because Hutus and Tutsi are willing to work together, where both groups have equal rights to politics and business to the point actually the ethnicity names have been banned. I strongly believe if Rwanda hadn't chosen to be one, it wouldn't be the Rwanda we are seing today. In short exterminating a group or their military wing will never solve the issue especially now that a tutsi is highly hated in his own country.

[@ezechiel51]

⁠@@davidcy71/ people don’t have equal rights in rwanda. The opposition have no rights, the government, parliament, army & administration is tutsis majority while being minority. U think people are fool

[@ezechiel51]

@@davidcy72/ the discrimination against tutsis in Congo is a lie hiding an agenda we all know. But keep fighting another 30 year, we won’t get tired retaliating. U don’t have more right then the rest of Congolese

[@ezechiel51]

An American media inviting rwandans to speak on behalf of 450 ethnic of Congo (or 100 million of Congolese) is insane & laughable 😂 but keep it coming

[@ushindimazino2002]

How come a Rwandese speak on Congo behalf this is the reason we say all of you are complice

[@tuzindemundende2512]

You are just confirming what they claim "Calling them Rwandese won"t solve any issues"

[@lelkaya7912]

VOA is a pro- Rwanda media

[@RugiraKagigiMutoka]

@@tuzindemundende2512yes it makes it even worse

[@rafikijackson9892]

Let me thank our guests, they really talk about the roots of the conflict. War will never bring peace, Never. M23 does only want to talk, why the government doesn’t want it, do they ask big things? I don’t think so! Hope we will have those guests next time

[@lelkaya7912]

Dear Congolese in U.S. let us call VOA to protest against their manipulations: notice that everytime VOA speaks about wars in Congo, they always invite these Banyarwanda-Congolese. Rarely they invite an authentic Congolese. This is not right. Because M23 is a disguise of Kaga.. Rwandan army. Also, there were talks already in Naïrobi and Luanda, but M23 did not adhere to the resolution of ceasefire, etc. LET US PROTEST BY ASKING A RIGHT OF JUSTIFICATION FROM AUTHENTIC CONGOLESE PLZ.

[@ezechiel51]

Because they are together. That’s why I dislike 👎🏽 videos telling lies like this. Let’s stick together against these liars, no one can defeat people sticking together

[@dawsonb.r9441]

I think there is something internal community and media ignore, this conflict has been there nearly 30 years, exactly same years since the end of Rwandan Genocide killed about to 1 million Tutsi in Rwanda. Hutu militias who committed genocide in 1994 fled to DRC and the government embraced them and they started killing Congolese of Tutsi tribe which caused hundreds of thousands to flee their country, most of them are in Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda,… This has been the cause of creation of rebels mostly Tutsi tribe since the time of CNDP to M23 to protect their people and to bring those are in refugee camps Those militias (FDRL) launched different attacks to Rwanda and killed so many Congolese is the main cause of this war, I think we thought looking at that point this war will never end.

[@princemule1331]

😳

[@dusabimanaclement4314]

M23 songa mbere❤❤❤❤❤ ❤❤

[@ezechiel51]

songa mbere??..and it’s been 30 years of fight 😂

[@Hehdhdhdhd500]

Why don't you guys talk about the Nairobi/Luanda peace efforts, the EAC regional force intervention that was chased out by Tshisekedi because they refused to fight m23? why don't you talk about the breaching of the regional peace efforts by Kinshasa Gov't? Why don't you talk about the mineral resources interests of South Africa, Malawi, Burundi and Tanzania which has caused them to send troops in the DRC to join FDLR to ight M23? Why don't you speak about the issue of FDLR and their genocidal ambitions? Why don't you speak about the security threats of these genocidal forces to Rwandan security? Why don't you speak about the historical nature of this conflict? Why don't you speak about the complicity of UN's MONUSCO in fueling this conflict? Why don't you speak about the existence of more than 250 armed groups operating in DRC?

[@Ndayishimiye123]

But where is FDRL? Mixed with FARDC

[@babytigheyes]

how old are the young members of the FDLR

[@perenoel250]

@@babytigheyes guess what the members get old but not the ideology stays with their offspring

[@djben3616]

Sadc is fighting with people who want their rights and that is why they are fighting when they have nothing to lose. M23 rebels are majorly formed by eastern congo tribes especially Banyamulenge who have been victims of so much segregation and have been systematically ethnically cleansed just because they speak Kinyarwanda as their language. In the past they've been denationalised and have been called Rwandese yet they ended up under Congo's jurisdiction during the partition of Africa just like other crossboarder tribes. The rebels fighting the government want their people living in poor conditions in refugee camps across greatlakes and beyond to be resettled back in their lands but the government doesn't want. To understand their cause, u need to read more about the agreements they signed with the Congolese government in 2013 but the government didn't implement them thus justifying their fight. They're literally a people who are fighting for their own survival and genuine causes that need to be addressed as soon as possible but the world don't normally hear their side of the story.

[@EricDaniel-do5rw]

There's no tribe called Banyamulenge in Congo

[@EricDaniel-do5rw]

Why always Bunyamulenge with there war?

[@belekiandecha1877]

Don't lie man, in congo is no tribe called Banyamulenge, all are Rwandese people from Rwanda.

[@ezechiel51]

Keep singing over and over. In 1959, 1962 Congo took tutsis refugees and kept them, why can’t rwanda keep those refugees also?

[@jospinfingy8495]

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WAR IN THE CONGO 🇨🇩 DRC: After migration of thousands of Africans ethnicity. In 14 to 15th centuries those Tutsi came from Ethiopia 🇪🇹 and Somalia 🇸🇴 then immigrated to Rwanda 🇷🇼 . That times they didn't have any land cause they were warriors marionettes utilized by the west during their wars. So at their local areas in Somalia and Ethiopia they got told to move away as they went to help white people in Europe 🇪🇺, then they came back in Africa and installed themselves in Rwanda then they spread later in Uganda , Tanzania , Kenya, Burundi, etc. No single one was in the Congo yet. Then they went to Rwanda and starting fighting local people there and change power all the times by war sometimes they were on power , sometimes local people. In 1950s , the lost war and power to local people so they fled to Congo in South Kivu , they name that place Mulenge. So that's why those ones in Congo are called Banyamulenge. Our former president decided to help them , which now is considered the biggest mistake our former President Mobutu did, he announced that every who was in the Congo 🇨🇩 DRC before the independence in 1960 became Congolese. So Banyamulenge became Congolese in that way as I have told you it was a biggest mistake every Congolese will tell you these. In 1994 , Tutsi and Hutu (local people) they started to kill each other, apparently they kill more Tutsi cause Hutu had more access to guns and matchetes those are history they teach every Congolese in school from primary to University. So Hutu lost the war because French lied to them to do cease fire 🔥 and they tell those Hutu to go to Congo, the Congolese government accepted to welcome them, another big mistake because other neighbouring countries refused to welcome them genocidaire as neutral person as me, Hutu did bad by killing innocent babies we saw on the movies and history at school. In 1996, Rwanda government Tutsi and few Congolese politicians removed mobutu on power through war called AFDL liberation, every Congolese was happy cause Mobutu was a dictator and war there for 32 years. And the had of that Liberation movement AFDL became president of Zaire and change the name to colonial name Congo and post colonial name Congo before Mobutu. After Liberation in 1998, when the president of the country and of liberation told Rwanda government to go back to Rwanda they were angry and started a another war called RCD Goma. WARS IN MY DRC TILL NOW : as I said the biggest mistakes was to allow Tutsi Banyamulenge to be Congolese in 1970s , and to Welcome Hutu Génocidaire in the Congo as Refugees. Rwanda 🇷🇼 government through these wars used discriminatory allegations that Banyamulenge have been mistread in the Congo 🇨🇩, which is not true cause these people have been with US Congolese since before until wars and Genocide of Rwanda that's there are Hutu and Tutsi we used to know all are Rwandan our brothers and our sisters until their government brought these separation in Rwanda and in the Congo. Everytime Rwanda does wars in the Congo they came as to look for Hutu Génocidaires or they came to support Banyamulenge in the Congo 🇨🇩 so that they government can treat them well. First of all, we don't know who is Tutsi Munyamulenge and who is Tutsi Rwandan because they are all the same , speak same language, they all against Congolese governments all the times. Secondly, that confusion Rwandan government use it to infiltrate our government so that all the times when there's negotiations between Congolese government and rebellious Banyamulenge wars, they government of Rwanda will impose and infiltrate its military in our Government so they can have access to our government information and those Rwandais military 🪖 need to be highly ranked as general ,major, colonels, and so on. In Conclusion, Rwanda government with its rebellious allied, and its genocidiary system comes in the Congo for several reasons: - Working for super power countries : USA, France, UK, Belgium, and European Unions so that they can give them Congo 🇨🇩 's natural resources for free or at cheaper cost. - Congo 🇨🇩 is so bigger and Richest country in the World when it comes to natural resources. -Divide Congo 🇨🇩 so that the poorest and smallest country , Rwanda can be bigger and Richer. - kill all Congolese if it's possible and take over - Send Rwandan citizens as Banyamulenge ("means Congolese Tutsi " apparently) send them as Congolese refugees in Australia, USA, UK, France, Belgium, Europe, North America, New Zealand, etc so that one day they can come and divide Congo or bring huge war in their favor in the Congo. They make sure once the Rwanda citizens arrive in the those developed countries they can do army so that they can go weaken the Congo. -Over half millions Rwandese have gone to those countries as Congolese when they are not even Congolese or Banyamulenge but Rwandais who speak Kinywarwanda or English. While languages spoke in the Congo 🇨🇩 are French as Official language, 4 nation languages: Kikongo, Kiswahili, Tshiluba, and Lingala. Plus , 450 plus dialects and every dialects correspond to language of each tribe. Such for your information there is no tribe in the Congo called Banyamulenge or Tutsi Congolese don't exist and will never exist. - Every Tutsi Rwandais want to be Congolese. - Gain more from war in the Congo by raping Congolese women cause most those soldiers or Rwanda origin have HIV aids. -Kill all Congolese if they can so Rwanda can take over. - Rwanda Government and its genocidiary system have killed over 20 million Congolese citizens since 1996 till present. - Rape all Congolese women : every 5 minutes these people have raped over 30 millions women, children and boys , men. - Causing Atrocities so that local Congolese people can leave their houses 🏠 , lands so that Rwanda can take over. - Congolese Army cannot win any kind of wars against any rebellious group founded, supported and created by Rwanda because Congolese army is infiltrate by Rwandan soldiers imposed at so called negotiations which imposed by the west on profits of the west and Rwanda government. - Kill as many Congolese people as they can cause they West supports Rwanda government and make the media silent that's why there's a silent biggest genocide happening in the Congo 🇨🇩 cause Rwanda are killing us Congolese and the west and media are silent

[@PhilipLubwika]

She has no self respect as a woman when the world knows that Kagame has invaded multiple times to destroy the infrastructure that existed there. Trying to explain DR Congo when you ignore basic realities. Navigation through the Congo river shortens the Distance between the West and the East. You can fly from Kisangani to Bukavu within 2 hours. A liar paid by Paul Kagame.

[@user-vi1kr2rr7l]

There is already away to solve this problem, but alot of wealth is got out of it,thats why S African and T zania failed to help Mozambique and ran to cong to fight

[@user-zz2ul5bn2m]

Please don’t bring these people, in the history of DRC there’s no ba banyamurenge

[@user-mx9cz1ht4e]

Ushindipaulbalozi here Rwanda mahoko kanyefurwe we are together

[@ggmb1032]

Kagame is the evil creating most of the chaos. The second guy is Museveni. This guy this guy Jean Paul Rugosa is Rwandese, his not going to tell the truth. His probably Kagame's guy. We East Africans know that Tutsi's are not Congolese they are Rwandese. How can small group of Tutsi that were brought as refugees in Congo by Mobutu think that they going to run a country that is not theirs. Kagame was refuge in Uganda he went back to Rwanda but these guys don't want to go back to Rwanda until there no minerals in Congo. Every body knows Tutsi's are greedy. Why didn't VOA bring a real Congolese.

[@fortunesemwaga9852]

🤣🤡

[@ezechiel51]

@@fortunesemwaga9852kagame#hittlerofAfrica

[@jamalboomworld]

20% off the air we breath has human beings comes from congo, 2nd is Amazon forest, when a celebrity buys a wedding ring they pay $1million dollar or more stole from Congo. While the people of Congo have no Idea how rich their are. They only worried on what to eat not knowing everything in congo the western needs it, So follow the money and see benefits from this war ay the end. 400yrs of slavery isn`t enough they will keep doing this until you take ur land back. Love you Congo...

[@kevinn.7376]

M23 are fighting for a noble cause. They just want the cessation of hostilities towards Kinyarwanda speaking Congolese. Tshisekedi is refusing peace talks which pretty much means he doesn’t want those hostilities to cease.

[@koliverkadimashi9325]

Bullshit

[@TreyMax]

Did you hear what this dmb guy from South Kivu Patrick said man! One of so many real traitors n betrayors of his own people we deal with on daily basis

[@lelkaya7912]

@@TreyMax he’s à Munyarwanda pro Kagame. What do you expect?

[@TreyMax]

@lelkaya7912 no he is pro Tshisekedi and his cruelty toward Tutsis in Congo

[@viewcontent3271]

@@TreyMax His people are congolese.. of all tribes. You are the tribalist. He is right to call out Rwanda involvement in the DRC. The only traitor is you

[@ATK1able]

No talk will take place. M23 have been killed all of them now it is just Rwandan army which have been killed in 1000 every months.

[@rebeccatshibangu4872]

Mr Ruhosa, leave Tshisekedi alone, We Congolese people have said no talk with anyone , we have been talking and talking and there has been no solution. no talk will happened.

[@user-ss8pf4rl3s]

Sabeza wabuze icyo uvuga kuvuga urwanda

[@jamalboomworld]

What education does Congo need when someone is robbing you.?

[@dusabimanaclement4314]

Vive M23❤❤❤

[@THEFACESTFs]

Imagine such guy (Jean Paul Ruhoza) talking about conflicts 😂😂and confirming that DRC ARMY is not able to fight m23 not supported by USA and western countries through KAGAME OF RWANDA 😂😂....the question is: is this guy really a Congolese 😮? Apatriot Liar 😂😂

[@stkevinkany1]

M23 is Rwandees and not congolese.

[@ATK1able]

Why are u inviting people who has no no knowledge whatsoever abt DRC

[@Junior-vm9sh]

This guy who is on this studio is from Rwanda himself. Do you really think he is going to say anything good for Congo? Or to point out Rwanda and his president? I don’t think so. Please call Real Congolese, we have been infiltrated for so many years. Rwandan people are calling themselves Congolese and taking advantage of our country and political roles. One day, all this will end. Trust me.

[@collinssampa4173]

Point of correction...not that foreigner diplomats aren't influencing but supporting the ruandaise government who is fighting using the name of m23..you are ashamed to report the truth..by mentioning ruanda. They never been tutsis ethnic in drcongo these are the people's who came as refugees since then are used by western to still minerals by shading blood for drcongo citizens.

[@twazagroup9003]

again Rember in election what happened also it was kagame African we have to build our capacity and stop claiming this to European

[@kazungu71]

my wonder is ,,,however much someone is being helped why has the government set up the environment for the M23 to fight,,,they have every reason to fight cause they are marginalized

[@collinssampa4173]

Lean history than you commenting something which you don't and the truth is that there is no M23. There is western using ruanda..that talking about war in drcongo is dated before independence of drcongo so you just learn than saying something which you don't know.

[@user-vn6po8cp6j]

Wooh you brought 2 Rwandans people to explain how Congolese people are feeling(they keep saying the Congolese people ,Congolese government but not ours), Bad media, you need contradictory view

[@nzaba9349]

M23 are fighting for a noble cause this pro Felix Tshiseketi people don’t even know that they are the problem

[@dusabimanaclement4314]

Vive M23❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ezechiel51]

Vive FARDC

[@ShalomCongo]

Part of the problem is the fact most people ( both Congolese and their neighbors) are clueless about what’s happening in eastern DRC. Here is my take: 1) DRC has at least 250 tribal groups 2) not all Tutsi came to DRC at the same time… Banyamulenge are Tutsi Congolese who have been in DRC for hundreds of years . Banyamulenge are from South Kivu. NOTE: if you want the proof check out a video of President Felix Tchisekedi himself saying that Banyamulenge are Congolese. It’s on youtube 3) there are Tutsi Congolese from North Kivu who have also been in Congo for hundreds of years and they are Congolese. 4) there are Tutsi who fled to North Kivu Congo in 1950s those Tutsis are separate from banyamulenge 5)in Congo there are Hutus ( Rwandese) who fled to Congo in 1994. These Hutus who fled to Congo 30 years ago are the only Rwandese who live in DRC. Here is why: According to the Congolese constitution anyone who were in DRC in 1960 when DRC received independence is CONGOLESE. Is Kagame supporting M23? My answer is: yes because this has been proven by UN and there has been many evidence. Does the west ( USA and other western countries want this conflict to keep on going? My answer is yes. Jean Paul Ruhosa is clearly pro- Rwanda. VOA should have invited someone who is pro- Congo and let him debate Jean Paul.

[@007africaG]

Tshisekedi aims to become a war president by rejecting dialogue and denying rights to the Kinyarwanda-speaking Congolese. Without addressing the matter of statehood and citizenship for this group, I see no one emerging victorious in this conflict.The people will continue to suffer under the incompetent and corrupt DRC leadership. South Africa, Tanzania, and others have no raison d'etre in the DRC;They will only lose the sons and daughters of their countries. Dioalogue will be the only solution. #FreeCongo

[@mrngalande621]

So the war is about Kinyarwanda speaking people who seeks Congolese citizenship?

[@thegreencouchshow4029]

Why seek citizenship if they have never been citizens themselves? The war in Rwanda is over they can go back home.

[@neildavid10]

@@thegreencouchshow4029they have been in refugee camps in Congo for over 30 years and only speak Kinyarwanda because it is close to Rwanda. These people don’t have documentation because of the constant war in the region for over 30 years.

[@benc9059]

So it's time to go back to Rwanda , you were refugees for 30 years and now your land has peace, so you can pack your things and go home, do not forget to take all your cattle and there will be no more problems and no one will never again discriminate you !

[@ezechiel51]

Keep Singing. We know ur agendas. THERE WILL BE NO NEGOTIATION, just keep fighting. Tanzania & SA doing a great job

[@Merveille7616]

It will be t Better to receive reel congoles for talking about congo and not people pretending to be congolaise cause they don't know exactly abou congo and they say things according to their advantages

[@kagamedavid2895]

Shameful to South Africa army to help Criminal involved to against tusti ( tutsi lives Matter) they need justice

[@bokkkie1]

who is supporting the M23 thats the root cause

[@PhilipLubwika]

Liar.

[@sweluhu29]

"Alleged western influence" 😂 Hypocrite

[@AK243RDC]

The problem is the US backed criminal regime in KIGALI. No look further than that. As long as the USA will continue to arm, train and fund RWANDA's KAGAME regime, suffering will continue in the entire region. Today it's the DRC, tomorrow it might be Tanzania or Burundi. KAGAME and the USA are the problem. Which conflict in KASAÏ ?

[@kagamedavid2895]

😂😂 shameless on you ( tutsi live Matter)

[@fortunesemwaga9852]

🤣the audacity🤡

[@22674]

Liar

[@stkevinkany1]

You are right bro, Rwanda is nothing and has nothing.

[@FACTS12254]

when u lose u always bring card of foreigner affairs ? u are fighting for evil that why u cant win

[@wilsongafurero4284]

Ruhosa Jean Paul are you a tutsi? Don't cheat the world, tutsis are from Rwanda they have to go back to their country, those 3 pulpits Congolese in M23 we will welcome them the rest have to go back to Rwanda, Ruhosa there is no negotiation.

[@PhilipLubwika]

The removal of Paul Kagame is the only way forward.

[@renaumurutasate]

Which is impossible he will rule even after his death 😂😂😂

[@OnenThomas-cw7py]

Regina thomas president uganda omoro kpitlcity Citi Bank 🏦🏧❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊

[@ushindimazino2002]

It so funny what is happening here u are a shameless people Rwandese

[@rugabajeanpierre8660]

M23 are congoleses, not rwandans . The gouvernement of DRC refuses that truth . The fighting and violence will not unfortunately stop, until DRC Will recognize them and give them rigths as other congolese. The SADC should not intervene in congo internal affairs

[@JSTN531]

👏👏👏

[@ezechiel51]

We all know ur real agendas. So stop. SADC is very welcomed in Congo

[@JSTN531]

@@ezechiel51 which agendas people like you are the only the problem so why did your government used to visit us in refugee camps in previous years in rwanda and promising to us that they gonna take us home your brain washed

[@savagex466-qt1io]

Why burn a USA flag ? Do they hate USA more then m23 ?

[@imanuehl]

M23 does not have a flag, for one! USA is a chief of sanctions. They have confirmed that Rwanda is in our soil but are reluctant on imposing real sanctions to the kagame regime, that is the cause of anger anger against USA

[@dusabimanaclement4314]

Vive M23❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ezechiel51]

Vive FARDC