I do think this is why I prefer Tk's because for sure it's more appropriate to Kaneki, also I mean he is the original. Now Ado for sure feels like she does add more of that anger for Kaneki that he would never express himself
@acls729906 ай бұрын
@@paramecium_llap Both versions are wonderful with different perspectives.👍
@paramecium_llap6 ай бұрын
@acls72990 yes but I suppose my comment was more of a response to the video where they said they prefer ado's rendition more, and I feel like at the end of the day the original has to have that bit of a lead because it is the original. TK as a fan, composer, lyricist, etc... of the manga has got to weigh a bit more than Ado's. I'm not measuring hers lower than his by any means. I just can't accept hers over his they can be equal or his has to have the higher edge. I also prefer Kaneki's inner turmoil to be expressed with male vocals. But that is only my opinion.
@acls729906 ай бұрын
@@paramecium_llap I agree. I also hope people can understand why TK chose this style to sing and enjoy the original version.
Suddenly remembered that Zhou Shen wanted to sing this song in this event and sought for Karaoke version of unravel but he couldn't find it. Then he contacted TK, the original singer directly and asked if he had the tape of karaoke ver. TK actually didn't have it, so TK decided to make one and gave it to Zhou Shen. I am a big fan of TK and I'm so grateful that this talented singer loved TK's song that much. And this version is just stunningly amazing.
@paramecium_llap6 ай бұрын
I love that TK is so kind and he just made it, he really is a hard worker
@nannansun28366 ай бұрын
期待T K与周深联手合作
@holohulolo3 ай бұрын
@@paramecium_llapI dony get it. I'm guessing karaoke version means the song without his vocal? I mean to go out of his way to do it for him is nice but wouldnt it be a simple edit like taking the vocal out. Or are you saying he also made some changes to fit the version ZhouShen wants to sing. If that's the case then damm that was very generous of him to spend time to do that.
@paramecium_llap3 ай бұрын
@holohulolo No, I was referring to how hard he really works professionally. He is super creative and is always producing, writing, etc... they make a comment on how active he is in the video. So, to go out of his way to make or even edit the instrumental track despite how busy he is, is really cool.
@alletleangyeehau18963 ай бұрын
@@holohuloloi don’t think performers can simply use song tracks by just removing vocal using software. Normally they would need fully separated tracks of each instrument which can then be EQ and post-process according to the stage settings.
「UNRAVEL」這首歌是TK(from 凛として時雨,樂團的主唱兼吉他手)作詞作曲,作為漫改動畫"東京喰種(東京食屍鬼)"的OP主題曲 "東京喰種(東京食屍鬼)"的故事講述的是在以現代日本東京為舞台,存在者長相像人卻以人為食的怪物"喰種(食屍鬼)" 主角金木研因為一次偶然的意外,從人類變成了喰種(食屍鬼)後在兩個種族間艱難求生,經歷物種衝突的故事 歌詞也很貼合故事內容,很好的呈現主角在這過程中的心境變化 TK的工作室版本猶如主角金木研開篇的純真與遇事轉折的絕望感 Ado的LIVE版本則猶如動畫第一季最後金木研的性格轉變更加放大情緒的宣洩,甚至能令不懂歌詞與日文的海外觀眾也能體會歌曲中的情境 周深的版本聲調非常的優美但猶如第三季的佐佐木緋世,逃避般沒有直面歌曲本身,有點討巧 TK的THE FIRST TAKE版本則是TK歷經多年沉澱後重新回顧這首歌,猶如漫畫版金木研最後的姿態放開接受自我般的沉穩寧靜 pellek的版本很有想以自己的全力盡力模仿原作TK的版本卻又能很好的突出其個人獨有的搖滾風格(如果硬要用角色形容的我會說是瀧澤政道,憧憬他人並模仿著但卻總能有自己味道) -------------------- The following is purely machine translation ------------------------- TK (from band "凛として時雨")was the original composer of the song "UNRAVEL" , and he created it for the "Tokyo Ghoul" animated version OP "Tokyo Ghoul" is a dark fantasy comic about monsters that look like humans but eat human "Ghoul" in the modern Tokyo stage. The story is about the protagonist, ken kaneki was originally a human, but unexpectedly became a 'ghoul', struggling to survive between two races and experiencing conflicts between species. The lyrics reflect the protagonist's mood. The studio version of TK is like the innocence of the protagonist ken kaneki at the beginning and the sense of despair at the turning point of events Ado's LIVE version is like the character transformation of ken kaneki at the end of the first season of the anime, which amplifies the release of emotions and even allows overseas audiences do not understand the lyrics and Japanese to experience the situation in the song 周深/zhoushen's version has a very beautiful tone, but it's like the third season's Haise Sasaki, avoiding the song itself and being a bit clever The FIRST TAKE version of TK is a re evaluation of this song by TK after years of accumulation, like the calm and peaceful attitude of the manga version of ken kaneki's final release and acceptance of himself Pelek's version is very eager to imitate the original TK version with his full effort, while also highlighting his unique rock style (if I had to describe it as a character, I would say it's Takizawa Masamichi, admires others and imitates them, but always has his own flavor)
TK is great, 周深 is great, but Ado's live version is crazy AMAZING!!! she makes me cry.
@nandin-erdenebattogtokh28646 ай бұрын
I love Ado’s version because it makes me feel emotions. Of course she wants to hit those notes clean, but more than that she conveys and portrays emotions feelings. You could feel the heartbreak, the despair, the frustration. It’s not just music it is feelings she is singing.
我体内没有我自己,但我存在。而我不再是我自己了。这首歌《Unravel》讲述的是恐惧、冲突和令人心碎的哭泣。 考虑到这一点,我喜欢 Ado 的版本,它表达得很好。 I don't have myself in me, but I exist. And I am no longer myself. The song unravel is about that fear, conflict, and heartbreaking cry. With that in mind, I like Ado's version, which expresses it well.
I had not watch the amine this song base on. 1st time I listen to this song sing by Zhou Shen. And I enjoy it very much because I don't enjoy screaming and yelling in my ear.
Needless to say, the lyrics of this song express the feelings of the anime's protagonist. A person who is losing his or her ego despairs and begs to be remembered. There is nothing beautiful about such a scream of the heart. It is natural to feel discomfort and grief if you listen to it. If you are uncomfortable listening to Ado's screams. It is a proof that she fully understood the song and perfectly expressed the background of the story and the emotions of the main character. A clear and pleasant singing style in any song is certainly easy to listen to. However, it does not match every song. Not for this song. The singing style that is clear, melodious, and easy to listen to by anyone does not capture all of the true emotions contained in the lyrics and background. If all you want is a beautiful sound, let the AI sing it.
@李沥-w9r6 ай бұрын
まぁおばさんの好みに優しくしてね(笑)
@qinrou6 ай бұрын
So true, those people who think Zhou’s version is more better than TK’s or Ado’s just didn’t understand the lyrics and the background of the song. They 100% didn’t watch the anime also🤷
@rubysword06 ай бұрын
I think this is an interesting thing and it keeps me reading everyone's opinions The teacher already understands the theme of this song, but for teachers and people who simply appreciate music Song is a kind of communication. An expression. An art and culture that accompanies life. Too intense expressions cannot be accepted by people who are slightly conservative (I also raised a point: if the scream has a melody, it can be accepted as a song) If we were the creators, would we be able to create songs that would be acceptable to both audiences?
Bản cover của Zhou Shen mang cảm giác khác với bản gốc. Bản gốc thể hiện nỗi đau, đau đớn đến tuyệt vọng, không thể vượt qua nỗi đau ấy. Bản của Zhou Shen cũng thể hiện sự giằng xé, đau đớn, nhưng sau tất cả, nỗi đau ấy sẽ qua đi, chúng ta có thể vượt qua nó. Bản cover này không dành riêng cho anime nên cách thể hiện có thể khác với bản gốc. Tôi thích cả 2 cách thể hiện.
@孫艾琳6 ай бұрын
This song is so difficult to sing that there are very few live versions. Zhou Shen's version makes me think that difficult songs can be sung beautifully live.
@user-cz1lh7pc2r6 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@smashliao68546 ай бұрын
首先請尊重不愛聽嘶吼的觀眾如同橘子老師來說好比素食主義者看待A5牛排或是帝王蟹一樣,本來就不是這個圈子,所以會喜歡周版的很棒,但是UNRAVEL歌詞與東京喰種劇情是相呼應, 訴說著這個破滅的世界被"揭開",男主面對吃人與不吃是痛苦的是難受的,所以"嘶吼"是符合這首歌在唱"unravelling the world"的心境,所以一些在嗆Ado的請自重,Ado不是不會唱得很柔和,如果你沒聽過Ado-dignity (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYrNZoqopZhmarc) 麻煩請去這集觀賞 ,請互相尊重一下 謝謝
I love all the singer,but my ears just can accept shenshen even though I've been listening so many cover to this song.And this is the first time I heard shenshen sing it.its so clean and strong ❤but the ori always in my heart ❤️
I resonate with Zhou Shen's version. The screaming is like fingernails scratching a chalkboard for me.
@ameliasze84016 ай бұрын
The scream and the yelling just touch me. It just like they are screaming the pain and unfair I face for me. To tell the truth, I am so in love of this TK version, I lopped this song for days nonstop when I am really down. It keeps me up.❤
@貞胡-k6x6 ай бұрын
我最欣賞 周深 版本;the preciousness of the state of art is the integrity of the kernel of musical pieces; it fully fulfills the soul of the song, and crossing the barrier between people.
Surprised to hear my favourite song of Total Eclipse of the Heart from R!!!! Love❤. After hearing all versions, Zhou Shen’s version made my ears most comfortable
Not much to say! ❤Love U Rozette❤Can’t agree more on what you feel🎉 we can drift along the edge, but not out.😅
@HiroSakuma-s3u6 ай бұрын
I can't agree with you more.❤❤❤
@anniewu62396 ай бұрын
這次完全贊成橘老師
@adyong31466 ай бұрын
Thank you Ms Rozette for your reaction and explanation. Your choice resonates with me. Now I fully understand why I like Zhou Shen's version the most.❤
@agogo20006 ай бұрын
我也差點要哭了!沒看著屏幕,無預警被她突然勁大聲咆哮嚇到想哭!!
@victorhuynh40316 ай бұрын
Zhou Shen sing unravel in away not scream in a rock n roll genre. Zhou Shen shows me Rock n roll does not require to scream for me to enjoy rock n roll.
Love Zhoushen version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@蔡承燁-v5j6 ай бұрын
love ado too good
@user-cz1lh7pc2r6 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@Olkam-w5u6 ай бұрын
TK is self-taught, he taught himself to sing and compose songs
@markhsu11826 ай бұрын
It’s always fun when the teacher struggled to listen to ADO’s screaming, a really nice comparison and discussion
@chingshenlin81175 ай бұрын
I believe it depends on the image the song conveys. The song "Unravel" tells a story of people struggling, yielding, accepting, and breaking boundaries amidst the many differences and conflicts in the world. I think only a voice that screams and bursts forth can truly move me and represent the state people find themselves in during such situations.
@sohyongsoo6 ай бұрын
我喜欢周深的作品,听了比较舒服
@dsn2876 ай бұрын
See I could be totally wrong but I think you have to take into account the source material is about Tokyo Ghoul. This story is about a person that is literally becoming a monster (that eats people) and trying to fight against it and try not to hurt anyone they care about, AND THEY ARE LOSING THE FIGHT (and they know it). I think Ado does a great job of actually imbuing her performance with what the character is going through and seeing the monster inside them clawing cracks into what humanity they have left. "I merely don't want to hurt you, inside a world, that came out of someone's imagination. So please remember me; as vivid as I was." That's a person who's at war with themself. The 3 other singers do a great job, no doubt they can truly sing. And yes I think Zhou Shen's is a very accessible track that most people can enjoy. But Ado brings it to life. She is doing a dramatic Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde vocal performance LIVE and you see the dynamic shifting of characters between words. It's theater in my opinion and it's incomparable to singing a song versus acting the characters of the song. But again just my thoughts. =) Great take on this song and thanks for looking at all these versions! You and the team are doing a really great job with this!
@josiahjones70666 ай бұрын
I personally like tk's version more because for one he's the original writer and I like how he also plays the guitar while singing. And when I think of his voice I think of kaneki more. His style is imo more my taste.