Voldemort v. Vader - Harry Potter and Star Wars Matchup

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The Take

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6 жыл бұрын

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@hanagreg
@hanagreg 6 жыл бұрын
The way she pronounces Harry sounds like "hairy".
@vedranmiric7534
@vedranmiric7534 6 жыл бұрын
Do Daria and Rebecca Doppelmeyer
@jenniferbrewer5370
@jenniferbrewer5370 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we can spare a moment to address the inherent toxic masculinity of the Jedi Order?
@RedCaio
@RedCaio 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that both had a great soundtrack by John Williams :)
@mackenziemagee2767
@mackenziemagee2767 6 жыл бұрын
Voldemort, to me, even while he was young, always seemed like a sociopath who committed evil just for the sake of it. Anakin, on the other hand, was more of a tragic figure because of his very noticeable passion, feeling, and empathy; and that's what drove him to the dark side. Darth Vader was redeemable, Voldemort was not.
@tiawilliams5690
@tiawilliams5690 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don’t know exactly what the movie theory was (aside from what’s shown in this video), but the books make it clear that Tom Riddle was a sociopath from a very early age. The orphanage he lived in couldn’t wait to be rid of him.
@phonix6352
@phonix6352 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in fact voldemort is more evil than vader, hitler, stalin etc and is rather someone like palpatine bc both palpatine and voldemort were evil from beginning on, you can't empathize with them, in no way.
@diegodipalma8934
@diegodipalma8934 6 жыл бұрын
Tia Williams totally agreed. Voldemort and Sidious are more matching figures for an analysis
@quentindiaz9418
@quentindiaz9418 6 жыл бұрын
Vader knew he had to stay with the dark side after he became more machine. There was no way he would ever beat Palpatine after that (he was planning to do it before Obi Wan fought him). He had to play his part as a Sith forever after that.
@leilanilee6678
@leilanilee6678 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Riddle was left in a muggle orphanage so of course they couldn't understand what his magical powers were and would be afraid. How could you not empathize with a orphan child who has no one to explain what these weird powers are in the first place and not expect him to act out on the sadness of being left all alone with no one to love him? Tom Riddle was redeemable. In fact Dumbledore stated it was his greatest regret that he didn't take better care of the orphan he was in-trusted to look after. And one of the key reasons he vowed to do a better job with Harry. Tom Riddle became Voldemort, he wasn't born pure evil. No one is. And it's a convenient mistake for humanity to believe so. Even Hitler was an innocent child full of good & promise but at some point later things changed. The parallel between Tom Riddle and Harry's upbringing and that "it is the choices we make which determines who we turn out to be" is what makes Harry Potter's story so wonderful and Voldemort such a fully formed villain instead of the typical stereotype.
@rijuchaudhuri
@rijuchaudhuri 6 жыл бұрын
One ruled an entire Galaxy while the other struggled to even take over a school
@drethethinker6418
@drethethinker6418 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine ruled and entire galaxy...Vader was the errand boy.
@the_crypter
@the_crypter 6 жыл бұрын
DreTheThinker you should ask it to papaptine when vader threw him over vADeR wAs aN eRraND boY
@drethethinker6418
@drethethinker6418 6 жыл бұрын
The Crypter exactly that was the one time he wasn't. it's like when you have a really shitty boss and then you finally decide to quit. I mean the fact that it took him this long says it all.
@FrogLehane
@FrogLehane 6 жыл бұрын
Voldemort took over the ministry, the prison, the school, and the whole wizarding world in the UK; and he would have continued beyond the UK. At least watch the movies before commenting.
@the_crypter
@the_crypter 6 жыл бұрын
FaithLehane and another ruled over galaxies and would have eventually ruled over the universe. It was a joke, getting offended over criticism of fictional characters, are you like 10 years old ?
@mbanerjee5889
@mbanerjee5889 6 жыл бұрын
Their similarities are narrative tropes that exist in every villain archetype. Aside from plot purposes, it is really unfair to compare the Anakin to Voldemort. Voldemort literally could not love from being born from a love potion. Everything Voldemort does is for himself because he could not care for anyone. Voldemort would have been a sociopath either way. He was hurting other children for revenge and amusement before knowing he was a wizard. Voldemort’s end goal was to rid the world of muggles and live forever even before the prophecy. Anakin wasn’t allowed to have attachments and was conflicted. But he had friends/family and goals that stemmed from that. Anakin’s actions, though misguided, were not purely selfish. Anakin didn’t look down on others; his arrogance was from his own skill, not a superiority complex being told he was "The Chosen One”. Anakin never hurt anyone innocent prior to his mother’s death. His end goal was to be a Jedi master and live happily with his family. And even after turning dark, his goal was to bring order to the galaxy. Vader is not the villain; he is an anti hero equivalent to Snape. -in love with the hero’s mother and had an early friendship with her -physically separated from that friendship (jedi training vs. being sorted in Slytherin) -turned dark as result of losing that love and became a follower to evil -ultimately died helping the hero and brought their boss’s downfall
@leonardo_Fabri
@leonardo_Fabri 6 жыл бұрын
Mallika Banerjee Exactly!
@NotRyanReynolds.
@NotRyanReynolds. 6 жыл бұрын
Vader is more of a tragic hero turned villain. He consciously chose to do dark deeds for selfish reasons and much later realized his mistakes. If anyone is an anti-hero is probably Han Solo before he realized his heroism to help the rebels.
@rofln00b
@rofln00b 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't see Vader on the same page as Voldemort, not even the same chapter. Voldemort was truly evil and seductively gathered a large following for himself. Vader was himself seduced to the dark side and was severely manipulated by the real dark lord of the Sith who exploited Anakin's conflicted emotions. Not a direct comparison to Snape, either, but Vader was still a more complex character than Voldy.
@fcv4616
@fcv4616 6 жыл бұрын
That's a nice way to see it, but I disagree that Vader isn't a villain. You can have complex origins and be conflicted, and yet be villainous. Most tyrants are dangerous not so much because they love to cause evil, but because they think they are correct.
@Dumpknoedel
@Dumpknoedel 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot - people treat them like theyre awesome when theyre just whiny assholes
@fndrl
@fndrl 6 жыл бұрын
Harry and Voldemort are related through the Peverells.
@tl.7005
@tl.7005 4 жыл бұрын
Big brain
@macbeth455
@macbeth455 4 жыл бұрын
And luke and vader are also related
@knallekalle9920
@knallekalle9920 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine is more similar to Voldemort than Vader is... Vader is conflicted and isn't purely evil. He's no sadist who takes pleasure in unnecessary pain and destruction.
@adelerodriguez5636
@adelerodriguez5636 6 жыл бұрын
knalle kalle That would be an interesting comparison 🤔
@owlnemo
@owlnemo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheCatLoverLord
@TheCatLoverLord 6 жыл бұрын
knalle kalle Did you see the video?
@phonix6352
@phonix6352 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine=Voldemort Vader= nobody highly powerful, he is quite whiny in fact when compared to harry potter villains (like grindelwald 😍)
@phonix6352
@phonix6352 6 жыл бұрын
So i mean that grindelwald isn't comparable to vader either 😅
@tariqthomas9090
@tariqthomas9090 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, a video on Harry Potter AND Star Wars??!! You just made my day😁😁
@owlnemo
@owlnemo 6 жыл бұрын
The comparison is odd, these two are very different. Riddle shows signs of psychopathy very early on. He's characterised by a complete lack of empathy and remorse, sense of entitlement (he feels special - even as an orphan, then clings to the fact he's a descendant of a powerful wizard etc), and he manipulates everyone around him and never forms a true bond (he just uses whoever is useful and discards them when the're not anymore). Vader is very different. He does share a troubled childhood that has consequences later on, but that's the extent of it. Anakin does form true bonds: he does feel close to his mum, to Padme and to Obi-Wan. He feels empathy, but not for everyone in al circumstances: the Sand people case is more a case of racism than lack of empathy ("They're animals, they're all bad, the killed my mum and deserved to die!", not "Oh well, who cares about them?") and he does feel remorse when he realises that he also killed the children. He's got awful impulse control and heavy anger issues, but that alone does not make a psychopath. He does have an inflated ego, however, but not so bad as to not be able to recognise the worth of others. When he rejects his loved ones in the end, it's not because he never cared. He becomes paranoid and thinks that he trusted the wrong people, the cause of it being cognitive dissonance: he has to believe that, otherwise he'll realise nothing he did was justified and that he behaved like a monster, then he couldn't live with himself. Turning to the dark side is his last resort apart from suicide. This stays with him, just not on the surface, and when he finally feels empathy again, for his son, he realises he was never justified, and that the best solution for him is to die in order to save his son: doing something good for someone he loves while also ending a life he didn't live the right way.
@ultronemperor3525
@ultronemperor3525 6 жыл бұрын
I think that Anakin and Vader are two different personalities. Like Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
@owlnemo
@owlnemo 6 жыл бұрын
In a way, I agree. Anakin could not be the hero of his own story and could not live with himself, unless he accepted to become the monster: Vader. Anakin hides behind this monstruous Vader personality, because life would otherwise not be bearable.
@RPowell43
@RPowell43 6 жыл бұрын
["He feels empathy, but not for everyone in al circumstances: the Sand people case is more a case of racism than lack of empathy ("They're animals, they're all bad, the killed my mum and deserved to die!", not "Oh well, who cares about them?") and he does feel remorse when he realises that he also killed the children."] I don't agree with this. Anakin killed the inhabitants of the Tusken village, because they had kidnapped his mother and slowly tortured her to death for at least a month. That is why he regarded them as "animals". And he was not the only one. So did his stepfather, Cliegg Lars. Yet, Anakin had harbored guilt for his destruction of the Tusken village for roughly three years. "Revenge of the Sith" conveyed this.
@RPowell43
@RPowell43 6 жыл бұрын
You've pretty much described every single being. Anyone can be either a monster or an angel. Chances are, all of us are both inside.
@owlnemo
@owlnemo 6 жыл бұрын
Danielle Rush maybe I wasn't clear, sorry. Of course, he doesn't kill Sand People just because they're Sand People, but he generalises them so much (yes, the tribe captured and tortured his mom, but he cannot blame the children for it) that he sees them as all the same and better off dead (even though he does show remorse later on). That's what I meant by "racism": some of these people did something awful and to him it was a good enough reason to exterminate them, children included. Granted, it's "racism" on the spot and he doesn't think it's okay once he's had time to reflect on it, but to go so far as to exterminate innocent children, even when heavily distressed, implies generalisation and dehumanisation of the whole people. Side note: Cliegg Lars is clearly racist against Sand People. Again, he had good reasons to be angry, but he also generalises as if every one of them were pure scum.
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@jilyui0416 6 жыл бұрын
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@ShadowBeast6000 6 жыл бұрын
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@choppydell
@choppydell 6 жыл бұрын
Far too often we forget that family and friends are what make us strong. Thanks for the reminder
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@TheBamcast 6 жыл бұрын
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@horrorfilms4746 5 жыл бұрын
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@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 6 жыл бұрын
Vader and Voldemort: both defeated by the power of love
@adelerodriguez5636
@adelerodriguez5636 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Wasserman Love, the true champion 💝🏆🏅
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 6 жыл бұрын
STOP! IN THE NAME OF LOVE!!
@catguy4996
@catguy4996 5 жыл бұрын
That's 100% true. Voldermort couldn't kill Harry, because Harry was protected by his Mother's love. Darth Vader couldn't kill Luke, because Luke was his son... and Vader loved his son.
@rexjdk
@rexjdk 5 жыл бұрын
Remember Vader also spared Leia's life too, even though he did not know she was his daughter at the time.
@beebeenyneeee7692
@beebeenyneeee7692 5 жыл бұрын
Except one got fucked over by it and the other chose the to feel love again and turn back to the light.
@thehightable5995
@thehightable5995 6 жыл бұрын
I never realized how much two of the most brilliant villains in movie history were so similar. Even their final battles are similar In Return of Jedi, Luke wears a Green lightasber to fight Vader's red one. In Harry Potter, Harry uses a Red spell against Voldemort's green one. Great job girls! Thank you so much!
@andrewstorey8584
@andrewstorey8584 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't believe that Darth Vader and Voldemort are all that good as a comparison. For one thing Vader knew love and was far less of an egomaniac compared to Voldemort. I believe the better comparison would have been between Voldemort and Palpatine although it does seem that they are essentially the same person in different worlds.
@andrewstorey8584
@andrewstorey8584 6 жыл бұрын
Also I feel that Draco Malfoy and Vader have more similarity. Both serve as an antagonist to the main hero and are corrupted by dark forces preying on their fears. Both also have some redeeming moments towards the end of their story. Finally both did evil acts but were not completely evil where as Voldemort and Palpatine could be essentially evil incarnate in their respective stories.
@LetsStopThisSong
@LetsStopThisSong 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Storey i agree. Vader you could empathize with, never with Voldy, he was always a psychopath
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine, in the films at least, gives no sign of a history of love in his life let alone 'knowing' it. He's more of a 'true psycho' (sorry actual psychopaths) than Vader.
@abramsullivan7764
@abramsullivan7764 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Luke has a green lightsaber we see him wearing black through out THE REATURN OF THE JEDI.
@editingfrenzy8654
@editingfrenzy8654 2 жыл бұрын
“they are two of the most popular stories” lotr: hello there
@mathiasrefael1393
@mathiasrefael1393 6 жыл бұрын
Emperor Palpatine is a much better comparison to Voldemort.
@thecringeartist4652
@thecringeartist4652 5 жыл бұрын
voldemort can kill emperor palatine , remember harry only won bc is wand was much more powerful
@ggamesgarner8027
@ggamesgarner8027 5 жыл бұрын
When An African Kid I think you should read in what the emperor can do. Once Voldemort is able to make wormholes and drain planets come back to me
@ggamesgarner8027
@ggamesgarner8027 5 жыл бұрын
Technology GAMER actually palpatine is capable of killing someone with only a stick lol.
@kingclampz6081
@kingclampz6081 5 жыл бұрын
Technology GAMER lol that’s why palpatine can kill anyone with his bare hands thanks to his electric powers what about Voldemort is he powerful enough to rule galaxys with bare hands like how palpatine can
@kingbaldwiniv1372
@kingbaldwiniv1372 4 жыл бұрын
@@ggamesgarner8027 First off imagining Voldemort without spliting soul is like imagining Satan In Heaven.lets keep the character as they are.Honestly Voldemort Would smash Sidious in terms of powers and feats and overall youth speed and he had a lot of more to play with is more powerful than 1000 Death eaters.Can single decimate dumbledores absolutely massive impertable shield with a wand that wasn't obey him but still yes did great things not to mention that at those times he was superior weak and on death doors so may as well be without horcuxes by then and even still with a segment of his souls remaining was absolutely horrible to play games with even at his weakest he was maybe more powerful than when he was back in prime point is that Darth Vader can't kill Voldemort because he has no way of locating the 7 horcuxes what's so ever nor his able to catch up with persistently teleporting flying high speed Voldemort capable of firing never ending spell hexes curses and jinxes all day long without a sweatime.Never mind his feat allowing him to produce instant Death upon anyone the Abother to produce building sized fire based assault following by more countless assaults unprecedented and unpredictable teleportation and mind control and physical possession the list goes on.He can do these feats in near instant quick concessions and is also immortal to anyone than Harry potter due to having the ability to locate and feel the horcuxes cause of the connection but hes still beyond Harry potter without a question as a wizard.voldemort would beat chap out of Sidous as feats powers and real abilitys . Transfiguration paralyze Sidious and Sidious is in big troubles
@IvoryValentine22
@IvoryValentine22 6 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that Voldemort will always be worse. Even as a child he loved the dark arts and found joy in hurting people. Vader has happiness and love in his early life and could feel love. Because he was concieved under a love potion he was the ultimate psychopath and could physically never feel love.
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@STehniat 6 жыл бұрын
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@chadatchison145 6 жыл бұрын
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@STehniat 6 жыл бұрын
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@rosariolake1810 6 жыл бұрын
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@AWDTH1111
@AWDTH1111 6 жыл бұрын
You have NO IDEA how long i've waited for a video comparison between these two characters to be made. Especially by a channel with your quality!
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@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
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@TrigramProductions
@TrigramProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I was so worried this would be a "who would win?" video. So glad you guys do real analysis videos I found this break down of iconic villains very insightful!
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@mifhadi 6 жыл бұрын
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@ChronicallyCurious
@ChronicallyCurious 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love more videos on various archetypes in general, and maybe the interplay between various archetypes, or examples of media that subvert expectations.
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@Horror-Man 6 жыл бұрын
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@Timberwolf410 6 жыл бұрын
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@adelerodriguez5636
@adelerodriguez5636 6 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that both Luke's & Harry's respective weapon/power is green, while Vader's & Voldemort's respective weapon/power is red 😶🙂
@mackenziemagee2767
@mackenziemagee2767 6 жыл бұрын
Harry's, actually, is red.
@adelerodriguez5636
@adelerodriguez5636 6 жыл бұрын
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@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
Voldemorts is green and half of Vader's life his was blue
@TommyP365
@TommyP365 6 жыл бұрын
Harry and Voldemort are related via the Peverell family bloodline. PS I'm a big fan of your work! I just subscribed last month.
@klaudiagrob
@klaudiagrob 4 жыл бұрын
Harry and Ginny are also related through bloodlines.
@iandraugr2623
@iandraugr2623 6 жыл бұрын
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@ocarinaot452
@ocarinaot452 6 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader conquered an entire Galaxy. Lord Voldemort couldn't conquer a high school
@paulnelson3927
@paulnelson3927 4 жыл бұрын
Ocarinaot 4 nope you’re absolutely wrong and ignorant. Voldemort took over Great Britain, the prison, the ministry, and other schools. Vader didn’t conquer crap accept for killing Jedis. It was Palpatine who worked hard to take over the galaxy. Palpatine was the brain behind the control of the galaxy. Vader has many failures to the point where Palpatine would always send assassins who tried to kill Vader in the canon comic books.
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@ChalfantMT 6 жыл бұрын
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@bradzillabrave6856 6 жыл бұрын
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@Alexandra.Chris.
@Alexandra.Chris. 6 жыл бұрын
I adore this channel and your videos but I have to point out that Harry and Voldemort are actually related, even though it is by no means a near connection. Harry is a descendant of Ignotus Peverell and Voldemort is a descendant of Cadmus Peverell.
@torppeq
@torppeq 3 жыл бұрын
Well... Darth Vader was the leader of the entire galaxy. Voldemort couldn't even take over one high school.
@lasinloser3979
@lasinloser3979 2 жыл бұрын
It was a wizard high school first of all. And secondly, during the final battle some of the most, if not, the most powerful witches and wizards in the world showed up to fight Voldemort and his death eaters. Like mcgonnogal, abeforth, Flitwick, slughorn and many many more. To oversimplify it and say that “he failed to take over a highschool” is stupid of you
@idkwhattoputhere5503
@idkwhattoputhere5503 Жыл бұрын
are u stupid, in the harry potter universe there wasn't nearly enough technology to even rule other planets, and the high school u talk about had some of the strongest witches and wizards at the time. and harry was the chosen one so ofc voldemort would have a challenge, do u think he would trample over the chosen one like it was nothing? with your comparison you could say "Well... Voldemort ruled the whole of UK. Darth Vader wouldn't even kill his son."
@eeurr1306
@eeurr1306 Жыл бұрын
He took over England and the ministry and the prisons.
@angie-tq4ew
@angie-tq4ew 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Love your stuff. Are you guys psychologist, or something? 😊❤️
@rosariolake1810
@rosariolake1810 6 жыл бұрын
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@juanfernando2217
@juanfernando2217 6 жыл бұрын
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@crisfneves
@crisfneves 6 жыл бұрын
I think a Snape / Vader comparison would make more sense. Voldemort is more like the Emperor.
@rexjdk
@rexjdk 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
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@HurrayTsk 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your take on The OA! I especially like how they portray the OA's blindness, the meta aspect of it being a story about storytelling and the philosophy of multiple realities and life after death
@thejoker0123
@thejoker0123 6 жыл бұрын
awesome analysis on 2 of the best villains of film and literature and sci-fi and fantasy Darth Vader x Lord Voldemort
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@LaborVoicesInc 6 жыл бұрын
no it was not.
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Just a suggestion: you should do more of these. :)
@tobyglendening5474
@tobyglendening5474 6 жыл бұрын
good job
Жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker had a few friends before he turned to Darth Vader. Tom Riddle was always powerhungry, he just hid it from everyone.
@retardedvaxxedliberal
@retardedvaxxedliberal 4 жыл бұрын
Voldemort needs his own origin movie.
@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@athi-enkosimapukata1478
@athi-enkosimapukata1478 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought, the had major similarities. That's why i even searched for this video. I was hoping someone would make this. I enjoyed it.
@Yobbleyt
@Yobbleyt 4 жыл бұрын
The emperor is the villain he orders vader and made him he is his master.
@paulgarbarino2345
@paulgarbarino2345 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, love all your work, but now please do a video essay on Blade Runner 2049. I realize you already did one for the original Blade Runner, but the sequel is completely deserving of its own analysis.
@Corveleijn
@Corveleijn 3 жыл бұрын
The entire Harry Potter franchise is imitated and taken over from Star Wars
@Tman11115
@Tman11115 6 жыл бұрын
"A weak, miserable person" Love it, so true!
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 6 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of how amazing the cast of the Harry Potter movies is. So many incredible actors throughout the series.
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 6 жыл бұрын
I was not really fan of Fiennes as Voldemort. He was too campy. I think Rickman actually would have made a good Voldemort and would have been loser to age to him than to Snape anyway.
@Candyqueen3211
@Candyqueen3211 6 жыл бұрын
Really great analysis! It brought up a lot of parallels I didn’t see before. I gotta point out that in the case of Darth Vader, his problems with love and emotions aren’t really his fault. The Jedi teach their students not feel emotional or even too strong of a platonic love (let alone romantic), in order to avoid strong attachments. Anakin’s inability to even talk about his predicament with Padme with ANY of his mentors or peers made him turn to the only person who offered guidance (Palpatine). I think the tragic part about Darth Vader’s story is that if the Jedi rules were more sympathetic and understanding towards normal, healthy emotions, Anakin wouldn’t have become evil. The fact that he was isolated from everyone he knew and cared about, and he couldn’t reach out for help for fear of being kicked out, meant that he was desperate for help but couldn’t find any.
@quint5514
@quint5514 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to know if you can do "Dark Mothers?" It's always shown in horror films and a bits of it in fantasy. We never really get the dark mothers unless it is related to the sons. What about the mothers?
@RobertConnelljr
@RobertConnelljr 6 жыл бұрын
Love the voice,wow
@wishbone346
@wishbone346 6 жыл бұрын
Vader turned to the dark because the light made him ashamed of who he was. From day one he was told that normal human emotions were "evil". He was made to be ashamed of who he was and as a result turned to the one person that didn't shame him for these things, Palpatine. If you look at the books, comics, etc Anakin had a very deep relationship to Palpatine beyond just the "he can help me save Padme" bit. Had Anakin believed he could talk to Obi-Wan about losing Padme he would have. They were like brothers after all. However, Anakin was brainwashed into believing that the Jedi would shun him if he talked about his "forbidden love", and this made him afraid to open up (and rightfully so as the Jedi would have shunned him for it.) The Jedi were just as much at fault for Anakin's fall as Palpatine and Vader himself were.
@louthegiantcookie
@louthegiantcookie 6 жыл бұрын
Vader turned evil because of his girlfriend, then spent the rest of his life whining about it.
@paulnelson3927
@paulnelson3927 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Venom he took over Great Britain, learn how to research before you make stupid ignorant comments.
@tl.7005
@tl.7005 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Nelson Vader took rule the galaxy
@sarveshnathan7559
@sarveshnathan7559 3 жыл бұрын
Vader nearly murdered the entire Jedi Order, Voldy can't even kill a baby.
@Dagger_323
@Dagger_323 3 жыл бұрын
Uh... what? That is probably the dumbest take on Vader I have ever heard. Also, Padmé wasn’t his girlfriend, she was his wife. Try actually getting familiar with the lore before remarking on it.
@sometransgal9412
@sometransgal9412 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dagger_323 and not only that his kids too.
@ranearia
@ranearia 6 жыл бұрын
Its true "all you need is love"
@shinigami5593
@shinigami5593 4 жыл бұрын
5:14 they actually are very long relatives as their both decedents of the pevarall brothers
@blackflagsnroses6013
@blackflagsnroses6013 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a video pitching the dark lords against one another. Though I also imagined Sauron in there. Also Darth Vader and Lord Voldemort are two of the greatest cinematic and literary villains of all time.
@HarishAgastya
@HarishAgastya 6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@themadmystic1688
@themadmystic1688 6 жыл бұрын
"They never understood the power of friendship and love" > Vader What.
@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
Its not like he turned to the dark side because he feared losing the woman he loved most, and its not like he became good because he loved his son
@ldrfan76
@ldrfan76 3 жыл бұрын
Voldemort and Harry are related through the Peverell's. They are distant brothers.
@Nicoder6884
@Nicoder6884 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot one thing. Vader was redeemed, Voldemort was not.
@rock3tryy
@rock3tryy 4 жыл бұрын
When you watch a Star Wars movie, you realize Voldemort isn’t scary at all anymore compared to Star Wars 🤣
@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually me tho
@lasinloser3979
@lasinloser3979 2 жыл бұрын
Can you even bother explaining yourself?
@jakeh1268
@jakeh1268 6 жыл бұрын
Vader is so much more than the movies though.
@jimmywu1011
@jimmywu1011 6 жыл бұрын
Susannah's voice is the most beautiful voice I've ever heard in my life.
@Sameer_Hussain_007
@Sameer_Hussain_007 4 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is that Vader has the best story of any villain. A slave boy, unlike Voldemort who could do great things happen in childhood, he’d never done great in the race except Once. Was meant to be The Hero unlike Voldemort. Was training to become a hero. Became a hero. Then lost his mother and feared losing his partner. The primary reason (probably the only reason) he turned to the dark side was to save her, that’s it. But he turned on her at last. This showed that never do a wrong deed for the right reason, not even once. It transforms your character. You kinda forget The Right Reason after doing the wrong deed. It’s a universal law. He couldn’t have stopped himself from killing the sand people though, nobody could have (after seeing his mother suffer, if they’d killed And thrown her, it might have been different)! The originals were better movies but prequels had a better theme. That’s saying something. The originals were about Luke’s hero’s journey kinda like LOTR.
@krishnusings
@krishnusings 6 жыл бұрын
screenprisim when are you gonna do a Q&A?
@andygomez1189
@andygomez1189 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but who would win in a fight?
@markmaurer6370
@markmaurer6370 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but who would win in a fight? I think Vader b/c he's got a sword, which is much longer than a wand, and also can cut things.
@teseofabbri1812
@teseofabbri1812 5 жыл бұрын
Problem is, a sword cannot Attack from a distance Like Avada kedavra
@xxitactical_8723
@xxitactical_8723 4 жыл бұрын
_ Giovi678 u obviously don’t watch Star Wars
@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
@@teseofabbri1812 u know that Vader (EU) could destroy planets
@eeurr1306
@eeurr1306 Жыл бұрын
@@yameen. He couldnt.
@MrGiftedCow
@MrGiftedCow 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you make a video about Michael Scofield
@adomasarma9566
@adomasarma9566 3 жыл бұрын
I mean yes voldemort did not understand love and friendship, but vader knew it well cause the only reason he went to the dark side is because he loved padme and he wanted to save her
@WeirdPanos
@WeirdPanos 6 жыл бұрын
I think the hatred for the son figures symbolises the anger caused by how vulnerable they felt when they were themselves younger. They were parentless and helpless but couldn't accept that on a psychological level because they had to survive. As a result they became seemingly independant and strong by giving in to the darkness and the idea of a young and helpless person that might even have a support system like friends that, in their eyes, prolonges this weak state enrages them.
@cathykirkpatrick9341
@cathykirkpatrick9341 6 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of both series but if was down to two of them, I would have to say Darth Vader.
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 3 жыл бұрын
4:16--It's Jedi counsel including Yoda's callousness and Obiwan's reluctant, inept mentoring that leave Anakin friendless. He's the victim.
@yameen.
@yameen. 3 жыл бұрын
Excactly, had qui gon lived and obi wan died instead than an akin would've never turned and would destroy the sith.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly my friend.
@michaelaraia3157
@michaelaraia3157 4 жыл бұрын
Voldemort and Emperor Palpatine are more alike in my eyes. Darth Vader has redemption, true love, and real friendship.
@HenshinHead
@HenshinHead 6 жыл бұрын
I think there's another interesting comparison you might've skimmed over, but it's important to both the dark father archetype and their shared origins: Both Vader and Voldermort had powerful, sage-like but initially naive father figures of their own (Obi-Wan Kenobi and Dumbledore) that they wound up betraying and inevitably became obsessed with destroying. Only to have that father figure best them, survive, and go on to help train their "sons", acting as both teacher and quasi-spiritual grandfathers. Grandfathers who try to learn from the mistakes made with raising the dark fathers, and who try to lead the sons down the right path. Yes, those sons had to come of age on their own terms, but it's still an integral trope in these types of fantasy stories.
@nick794
@nick794 6 жыл бұрын
Now understand, Kylo is doing to Rey what Vader did to Luke. He wants befriend her because she is more powerful than him and he knows it. Reylo will never happen because I think not only is Kylo ren a brat but also he is a self deceptive evil. He wants to get Rey on his side and subordinate her later because he envies her.
@roscoedash6673
@roscoedash6673 6 жыл бұрын
Luke was never more powerful than Vader, he won because Vader was done being Emperor's bitch boy and he wasn't trying to kill his only child. I always thought Vader held back in his fights against Luke based on the immense force powers we see him use on others that he doesn't even attempt on Luke.
@TheCatLoverLord
@TheCatLoverLord 6 жыл бұрын
I Swear I'm Not a Troll You clearly don't know what you're talking about, Luke has always been the most powerful force user in the entire galaxy
@quentindiaz9418
@quentindiaz9418 6 жыл бұрын
nick794, i believe Kylo Ren wants to finish what Vader started, and that was to end the sith and jedi altogether. Vader couldn't do it his way cause he got burned and became machine. He even stated that he and luke should team up and kill the emperor and bring order to the galaxy (although that was evil order). Vader would have called himself something else other than Sith. Luke might have decided to not call himself a jedi after. But that never happened because both sith ended up dying with Vader coming back to the light. Luke was the only jedi left. Years after, the new jedi order has been rebuilt, but the dark side is always there and Snoke revealed himself. Took Kylo and probably told him what Vader's true mission was. Kylo killed off the jedi and Luke was still the last jedi left, Kylo and Snoke do not call themselves sith, the sith are no more. They only use the dark side of the force for power. Snoke told Kylo that he sees so much balance of light and dark in him, and this might be what Kylo Ren is trying to do. Snoke wants the power to be completely evil, Kylo might be different. Use the dark side of the force for power while still believing to be fighting for the light. He even claims to let the pass die, and then "kills" Snoke, the last remaining person to really know anything about the dark side's history. Luke dies on his own, and thus there is no jedi and no sith left. Rey is not a jedi yet, and it is unknown if she will call herself one. Kylo realizes she is very strong in the force (mary-sue or not), and realizes that she may in up being a new jedi ect in the future. Tries to keep recruiting her so they start a new way for the force. Maybe that what's it all about. But then again, maybe im listening to much theories and reading the books to help out the theories but who knows.
@TheCatLoverLord
@TheCatLoverLord 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Vader .....Luke was stronger than anyone
@emperorsheevpalpatine6794
@emperorsheevpalpatine6794 5 жыл бұрын
Except that Luke was never more powerful than Vader as of _Return of the Jedi._ And Luke himself has admitted that he would've been obliterated if Vader had gone all-out against him. _And there was a further matter. _*_In his battles with Darth Vader and the Emperor,_*_ Luke felt he had never truly tested his powers to the limits. _*_Vader had sought only to turn him, had kept Luke alive._*_ Yet Luke had no illusions that Gethzerion would be so lenient._ ... _His head throbbed, pounding to the same rhythm as the beating of his heart. His face had gone cold, numb, and Luke realized distantly that Gethzerion’s spell had ripped open blood vessels in his brain, and he was about to die, one among hundreds of fatalities on this battlefield._ *_So this is how it would have been, if Vader had tried to kill me._*_ Who had Luke been kidding? Teneniel had been right, Luke was no warrior._ From: _The Courtship Of Princess Leia_ Emphasis mine.
@philiphamel8504
@philiphamel8504 6 жыл бұрын
@1:46, I believe both Anakin and Tom, both chose the dark arts... To overcome their fear of death. Anakin fears death, because of the loss of his mother, he's fear of losing Padme, and his desire to eventually overcome death itself. Palpatine promise this to Anakin, in exchange for learning the dark arts from him. Tom, on the other hand, chose to split his soul into horcruxes in an attempt to achieve immortality. (think of a lich and his phylactry) to achieve both of their goals, both did terrible in heinous things. Vader killed all the Jedi save for two. Voldemort murdered seven people to split his soul into 7 separate pieces. One of the biggest cautions that I take from Voldemort and Vader is understand that what you want has serious repercussions and consequences and you should be careful about how you go about achieving your goals.
@Horror-Man
@Horror-Man 6 жыл бұрын
A video on Snape next, please!!!
@paranoidandroid1997
@paranoidandroid1997 6 жыл бұрын
What a great jobd
@elenasgaard7770
@elenasgaard7770 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast vader has a nose
@blosblosjrinthehouse3247
@blosblosjrinthehouse3247 4 жыл бұрын
Wowowow, wait right there, anakin was no pitiful sad little guy as this video said... He was disregarded by the jedi council, thats why
@sangenan1
@sangenan1 3 жыл бұрын
Vader is factually immortal, and he can destroy voldy baldys wand with force
@marduk1734
@marduk1734 6 жыл бұрын
a small remark. While Vader was driven by the idea of cheating death, in order to save Portman, Palpatine managed to achieve immortality, without shattering his soul and loosing physical appearance (see old canon), unlike Voldy, who used to be #1, but due to his mental instability (Hitler's reference), Tom lost most of his powers, yet managed to get some of them back over and over again. to make it easier, Voldemort is consumed BY turmoil, while Sidious CONSUMED the turmoil. Sidious doesn't need to understand the value of love and friendship, because he managed to use the Dark Side through his pure mind, thus concentrating the most destructive force, in comparison with Voldy's powers or than nuisance called love and friendship.
@misty306
@misty306 6 жыл бұрын
You need to include Kefka (Final Fantasy VI) with this comparison as well!
@Estarfigam
@Estarfigam 6 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis, one minor quibble. Tom Riddle is a distant cousin of Harry both are descendants of the two of the Peverell brothers
@space_monkey5662
@space_monkey5662 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird how vader is more intimidating and also the most human among both.
@johnsonjameson2268
@johnsonjameson2268 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention V names are inherently villainous :)
@DeannaGmoney
@DeannaGmoney 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see your interpretation of 2001 A space odyssey
@FalconFetus8
@FalconFetus8 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, there are TWO people behind ScreenPrism?!
@domtraini4889
@domtraini4889 6 жыл бұрын
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