Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 FFP vs Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 SFP vs Viper® PST Gen II 1-6x24 - FAQ

The Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 FFP comes loaded with the EBR-8 first focal plane reticle to provide red dot-like performance at 1x and holdovers out to 600 yards. Featuring a superior optical system, nine daylight and two night-vision brightness settings, it’s the first focal plane big brother to its predecessor, the Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 SFP. Learn how the Vortex® LPVO lineup stacks up when comparing the Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 FFP, Strike Eagle® 1-8x24 SFP, and Viper® PST Gen II 1-6x24.
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[@wilfdarr]

These animations are super useful for teaching FFP and SFP. Just the way the movements are timed with your script draw your eye to show exactly what you are talking about. Most animations are just zoom in, zoom out, this is heads and shoulders above. Nicely done!

[@RichM0410]

Absolutely love my viper pst II. Vortex spoke to me a couple times on the phone and very professional and helpful! Thank you Vortex

[@frankopanklaric]

I've had the PST II for 2 years now. Great scope.

[@paytonwoodruff3621]

A throw lever should be inclueded in the pst's along with a different reticle. Hopefully these will be included in the Gen 3 Pst's

[@WindowsPlaysFPS]

I bet they will launch a PST and Razor scope with the new reticle.

[@walkerhaynes571]

*included

[@calebeadie8702]

I wish they had the combat reticle in the viper pst

[@michaelgeige3016]

Say it louder

[@admmfg]

We cant wait to get our hands on some of the new 1-8 FFP's!!

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

Let us know what you think when you get a chance to put em to the test!

[@ColdWarVet607]

Fantastic description of these scopes, been batten my brains out trying to choose. The larger SFP reticle may be for me, my old eyes aint what they use to be, but my brain can still run numbers like no tomorrow. I ll go check'em out in person. Thanks great stuff!

[@friedlnett]

Really glad to see a new vortex LPVO! However, I wish it was a little lighter.

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

We'll let our product development team know that feedback!

[@roul3688]

I have the Gen 1 Strike Eagle 1-6 SFP and love it. Sighted in at 50 yards and can easily smack 6” plate at 300. My only complaint is the weight, which is a problem with all LPVOs.

[@jedpratte]

Have been using a strike eagle 1-8x24 second focal plane for a while now. Love it. Was hitting can size targets at 100+ yards other day on a 18in barrel ar.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

10 out of 10 on the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24 SFP scope !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's my favorite Vortex scope

[@Bigfoottracker89]

Vortex is badass! I love the viper pst2 heavy but its a awesome lpvo for the price.

[@rmossman88]

I just bought the viper 1-6 for my geissele, and I really love it. Super clear and a good addition to my super duty 👍🏻

[@andrewclodfelter3782]

Its a great scope. I have 2 of them and honestly compared to my razor gen ii its very close and arguably a better 1X. I prefer the viper pst to the gen iii razor 1-10.

[@MF-Rell]

About the best I've seen for 600 or less.

[@michaelfournier7863]

I love all my vortex optics!

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation!

[@shawndobson5713]

Thanks for this video. Huge help!

[@wilfdarr]

Also, with the fixed parallax set to 125yds, I think it's important to note that the max parallax error is less than a half inch from 15yds all the way out to 230yds, and that would be with the scope shadow TOUCHING the cross hairs (you'd really have to be trying to see that kind of error)! Realistically you'll see a lot less than that. Most people worry too much about parallax because they don't understand it.

[@cletustollery6914]

Do you have a simple/accurate breakdown of parallax? Thanks

[@wilfdarr]

@@cletustollery6914 I'm going to make a video on it. I ordered a prop but it's still in the mail. I'll try and get that finished in the next week and I'll let you know when that drops.

[@evey0259]

@@cletustollery6914 Pretend that your reticle isn't just something floating in front of you, but something actively projecting out to the environment physically like a laser with a stop function. So if your parallax is set to 100yds, but you're shooting at 200yds, you'll be able to make the terminal point of the laser shift up, down, left, right since it didn't reach the end, and your viewing angle affects it. If instead you set it to 200yds, you're "touching" your target and your viewing angle won't matter much since your reticle is "touching" your target and any variances in viewing angle will be miniscule.

[@owewig4487]

Fantastic explanation

[@ironseabeelost1140]

Both of our Strike Eagles scopes are older. First Gen. We're not upgrading, however if you are shopping around get the newest.

[@brittainwoolley6848]

Vortex: update the Viper PST to a gen 3 and include the EBR-9 reticle in FFP. Do what you did for the second gen razor.

[@all_golde]

I dmd them about this 5 months ago and they said there wasn’t a plan , I hope there is one now

[@chrisflores5541]

I want a razor 1-8. I wasnt impressed at all with the 1-10 sadly. Takes A LOT of practice to be consistent with it. 6-10 os absurdly tight eye box wise compared to the 1-6. If they make a 1-8 razor id buy in a heartbea

[@alfradoify]

Just curious can you make the 1-8 ffp with the thread on throw lever. I have 3 other scopes with the bolt on and it never stays in place would be curious to have an actual threaded option to not worry about.

[@BMXrider915]

I wish the VMR-2 was available in the strike eagle 1-8 SFP or there was a 1-8 viper then it would be the perfect scope for my 375 H&H.

[@andrewclodfelter3782]

You definitely need to include a POV shot through the scopes.

[@reddeercanoe]

I would purchase one of these scopes BUT they have black rifle reticles not for hunting. If Vortex produces a scope in this group with a dangerous game type reticle I happily mount on my 3006.

[@north4961]

Hi, considering this scope for my Sako S20 300 Win Mag for hunting. Any input from the crew? Thank you in advance. 🇨🇦👍 Mostly clear cut open areas. No more than 300-500 yard shot. 👍

[@DemoncidPro]

Hola resisten el retroceso de un 308 Win??? Quisiera montarla en Tikka del calibre mencionado gracias.

[@loidwatts35]

I just purchased an F1 firearms, AR-10 with a 22 inch 6.5 Creedmoor barrel. Will my vortex Viper GEN II scope be a good fit for this rifle, or should I upgrade? I only plan on shooting targets at 400 to 1000 yards.

[@tonyramirez7762]

Which of the strike eagle would be better for 3 gun competition? I ordered the BCD3 which is the second focal plane i guess. I’m wondering which would be better for the fast acquisition in that type of competition

[@dbut5427]

Viper PST Gen II is the truth. Simple reticle and red dot is all you need.

[@TMFShooting]

Another Great Video 💯 Thank you 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@manuelcabeza6922]

Hello !!! I just purchased your Votrex 1-8 SFP Strike Eagle ... Would it be possible to Zero This For a 36 Yard Combat Zero ? Aka Shawn Ryan Vigilance Elite ... Thanks. I Zeroed at 50 but still wondering because I used a Holosun red dot with a Magnifier before this and it was a Laser Beam On An MK18

[@ozzy1750]

Is there a large difference in the markings using different weight bullets? I generally use 62 grain.

[@markorz1]

Is a Viper Gen III on the horizon by any chance? That's my favorite bang for your buck optic.

[@Tyanmax99]

I bet there isn't. You'd have to think it would hurt the Vortex Razor sales, since you're getting like 80% Razor function for 50% of the cost with the Viper.

[@hadenbrill]

Only downside to the pst is hard to change magnification and way to easy to turn brightness. Other than that love it.

[@funkymunky7935]

I want the screw-in zoom lever on the FFP Strike Eagle

[@cletustollery6914]

I've been doing a lot of research on a new scope for my 18" barrel AR because I am taking off the holosun 510c w/ magnifier and putting that on an AR pistol. High end build that I wanna test limits on. This will be the first time I have put a scope on an AR and by product, company and service, I am 100% sold on vortex. I don't want a huge scope, needs to be FFP, prefer illumination, smaller MOA, mainly 150-400 yards usage and I would appreciate any wisdom. Buddy just built an all Noveske/ Geissele AR put a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 on it for a "starting point" and I was VERY impressed, although that gun needs a bit more money in optics. I am not interested in competition, night shooting or buying things twice (buy once, cry once). This scope might be transferred to longer range gun at a later date, but nothing over 700. Thanks for any help.

[@walkerhaynes571]

Why does the gun “need” more money in optics? Just out of curiosity

[@cletustollery6914]

@@walkerhaynes571 I want a better optic on the longer barrel and am transferring the holosun to a new pistol build. "Need" is a relevant term, but I'm really wanting to try the theory of "optics are where you spend money". I don't think a bcg or charging handle is the key.

[@varmint223]

Would the 1-8 SFP be a good scope for a marlin 45-70?

[@joshuareed3999]

Why not introduce a PST ii (or iii) with PST level glass and features, but with the improved ranging reticle in a 1-6 or 1-8? My guess- you don't want everyone to buy that instead of the Razor line- because I'm sure they would!

[@MF-Rell]

Exactly.

[@terryderush2657]

And now we know. Thanks 👍

[@untergleetongouten-globin150]

Do they offer a sunshade?

[@venomgt7299]

I just purchased the 1x8 ffp. I believe it has resettable turrets. How easy is that process? Is it a screwdriver or special proprietary tool?

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

You are able to reindex the turrets on the Strike Eagle 1-8x24 FFP. To reindex the turrets hold the elevation/windage turret cap firmly between your thumb and forefinger to prevent and rotation, use the 2mm hex wrench to loosen and remove the central screw on the top of dial. Next, gently pull the turret dial straight up and off of the turret post, being careful not to rotate the post. Then you'll want to reinstall the turret dial, lining up the "0" mark with indexing mark on the scope body and replace the central screw on top of the dial. Replace the cap and you'll be good to go my friend! If you have any questions about this process or anything else feel free to give us a call at 1-800-4VORTEX as well!

[@thefancystache3793]

I love Vortex. Their glass is always so brilliant and clean, their forever warranty gives me an invaluable peace of mind and no one even comes close to their customer service... that said... I'm sick to my stomach right now. I just found out that the Viper HS I paid 800 for is now selling for 299? This loss literally turns my stomach. I take immaculate care of all of my firearms and optics. NOTHING I've purchased EVER has devalued more than 20%... a lot of it has gone up. But a 65% loss? I'll never be able to buy anything new from you again. As my eyes age and I desire to shoot longer, I was getting really excited about picking out my first super high magnification fancy optic, and I've got to go rummaging through your bargain basket or to pick a new company. I also just decided to add RDS to all of my pistols because of my eyes, after hours of research I had it narrowed down to you or Trijicon. Since I love your scopes so much I was really rooting for my research to justify buying from you. It ended up being pretty much a tie making it an easy decision to go with you due to all of the goodwill you've built, but almost as an afterthought I checked on how your prices held up... and I'm literally crushed. A 500 dollar loss is a big deal to some of us. I wouldn't ever even want to sell this scope, but I need to have the peace of mind to know that if i need to I can. I'm scared to even look up my Diamondbacks... discontinued? What are they gonna be selling for? 20 bucks? I know it's pathetic whining in a comment section no one will even see, but it kinda felt good.

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

Hey there - thanks for reaching out and expressing your concerns (they're incredibly valid, and want to understand everything at play). Would you mind sharing which specific Viper HS model you have? If you can provide the magnification range and reticle, in addition to when you purchased it, that'll help us get started in the right direction. Lastly, if you have a link to the optic you're seeing listed for $299, that'd be incredibly helpful. As a quick note, the Viper HS varies by model, but isn't available below $499.99.

[@thefancystache3793]

@@VortexOpticsUSA I'm caught a little off guard by you guys actually seeing that. I thought i was void raging. I bought the scope in 2015. Vortex Viper HS 4-16 x 44 # VHS-4305. I can't link. Type VHS-4305 in search and the first vid that comes up with this exact scope is Man vs Deer. The very bottom comment he tells his sub he got it for 300. The sub tells him that's what he got it for too. Then there's another guy in the comments saying he has a hook up to get them for half that.

[@thefancystache3793]

@@VortexOpticsUSA Just curious if you saw my response. Half of my comments on here don't post publicly

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

@@thefancystache3793 Yes we did! Apologies for the delay in response. Would you be able to email where you found that KZbin video where they're discussing that price to [e-mail] ? We can't seem to find it but are more than happy to look into this for you!

[@americanpride4263]

Will these work with a 308 ar 10

[@departed402]

I just know as soon as I buy a SE 1-8 FFP, they're going to release a Viper FFP

[@Cdub427]

Why dont you include throw levers with razors.. for the price you pay you'd think they'd be included like they are in the cheaper options.

[@dbut5427]

On another note my PST beats out Eotech Vudu 1-10x in clarity and daylight brightness.

[@wengandy2449]

I have never seem a vudu 1-10 in person. Just out of curiosity, how does it perform overall to you? Thanks

[@dbut5427]

@@wengandy2449 I like the disappearing reticle.

[@praharin]

SFP is easier to make the reticle brighter than FFP.

[@dbut5427]

@@praharin facts

[@wengandy2449]

@@dbut5427 I guess razor and atacr still the goat in this category as ffp lpvo. Crazy bright, and yet still manage to offer useful reticle at high magnifications

[@Rusted_Link]

I have the Strike Eagle 30mm 1-6 Second focal plane reticle. There's only one issue that I have. The scope needs a simple on/off push button on the end of the brightness selector or even better if Vortex could build us a 1-4 illuminated 2nd focal plane reticle with the auto on/off like on a red dot. Yeah that would be great. What do you think Mr Vortex? 👍 if you agree

[@MF-Rell]

The weight would be an issue.

[@Rusted_Link]

@@MF-Rell not in 1-4. It would actually be lighter than the 1-8.

[@benjamenross2326]

I would love a strike eagle with a bdc in 6.5 cm

[@MikeS309]

Eh. I think most people are pushing 6.5 out to further distances then people use LPVO’s for.

[@benjamenross2326]

@@MikeS309 I'm in Australia, so no semi auto, looking at building a Remington pump in 6.5 creedmore. I already have a creedmore in a bolt gun for longer range. This would be a pig gun for close range out to 300 metres plus. Bdc would be nice not necessary. I have a stable of 6.5's just looking at adding another.

[@jackle842000]

Jeez, does every scope video in the world have to explain ffp vs sfp? I was looking more for things like glass shots between them and turret quality etc.

[@markmiela3937]

I bought the Strike eagle hoping to put it on my rifle. The 8x eye relief is very finicky and the image is blurred some what. Unfortunately going to send it back. I have heard the 1-6 image is better. Also the bottom spike is off set to the left just a bit.

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

Hey Mark - sorry to hear you're having issues with your Strike Eagle. The image being blurry isn't something we hear of often, but we'll be happy to take a look and see if something is going on.

[@markmiela3937]

Only blurry at 8x. Others are fine but I got the BDC reticle and from what I understand that only works at full power.

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

​@@markmiela3937 It's important to note that with any optic as you go up in magnification, the image quality will diminish slightly - this is more noticeable when reaching the max magnification. But it shouldn't be to the point where it is not usable. What distances are you looking at when you're looking through the optic?

[@markmiela3937]

Couple hundred yards. I shipped it back to PSA today. Nothing against vortex I just realized that I need to put a higher end optic on my rifle.

[@PCRedman]

Major miss in my opinion not including non bdc/mrad reticles on the new 1-8. LPVOs are becoming more and more used for hunting and non .223/ar15 uses. The market is underserved for cheaper, ffp, mrad lpvos, and mrad lpvos in general. An affordable ffp lpvo that would have applications on a .17hmr varmiter, light weight bolt action hunting rifle, would have been fantastic. That alone makes it a no buy for a lot of guys who don't shoot .223/ run mrad on all their rifles.... Sticking with the pst2. But no 1-6 or ffp.

[@davepayne2024]

Rad

[@CyborgNation83]

Good for you guys, making videos for the poors

[@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813]

MSRP for the 1-8x FFP?

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

MSRP is $799.99

[@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813]

@@VortexOpticsUSA what makes it better than the Primary Arms SLX-3 1-8X24 FFP Raptor?

[@itskevindulac]

@@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813 Very good question. I have the SLx too, and its lighter and has adjustable paralax. Perhaps its all in the Name/Brand recognition.

[@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813]

@@itskevindulac I have been considering a Viper PST Gen II for a minute but decided to try out the U.S. Optics TS-8X and was really glad I did. Thing is incredibly underrated. Glass is fantastic and the RBR reticle is tits. Weights 17.9oz and I found it for $410 new. Crazy deal for what it is. I have an older U.S. Optics SN-4 1-4x and I paid $1400 for that over a decade ago. Beautiful tank of 1-4x but I am getting old and want the magnification. I also just ordered a SLX3 1-6X Raptor for a .300blk pistol and it’s arriving today so I’ll have some hands on time to “scope” it out. I’m thinking about getting a new Strike Eagle too just so I can compare across the brands and see what I like best. But that U.S. Optics is gonna be hard to beat…

[@namenotfound8747]

@@definitelynotthea.t.f.8813 A few months ago strike eagles 1-8x were going for 400 for FFP or SFP, I bought it with a credit card that was giving me 150 if I spent 3000 grand in 3 months with the holidays, I knew I would that easily. And I am also always on top of my expenses so no biggie. So I paid 250.

[@chrisn9657]

Are these optics USA made?

[@MF-Rell]

No I think the pst is made in Taiwan. Don't quote me on this.

[@PCRedman]

Negative ghost rider

[@MF-Rell]

@@PCRedman Anything under the Pst is made in China.

[@barneypeng7015]

Most, if not all of the Strike Eagle optics are made in China (PRC).

[@acetrspykr7602]

No MRad?

[@VortexOpticsUSA]

Just MOA at this time! If MRAD is something you'd like to see in this model we can definitely pass along that feedback!

[@PCRedman]

Definitely want to see a non bdc/mrad version. Would be an ideal lpvo for non ar15/.223 applications. Lightweight hunting rifle in bear country? ✔ .22lr varniter that you can stretch the legs on? ✔ Dudes who only run mrad/non bdc? ✔ The ffp already lends itself to being a longer range focused lpvo... lean into it. .223 is ok on a bdc made for it. A lot less awesome on a 6.5 grendel...

[@DrunkDrynasty]

Jesus, 23oz is HEAVY

[@juggheadjim]

Mr_Gun_Official sent me here and loved the videos.

[@mikeperyam2888]

What’s with these scopes being marketed for AR’s . What happened to a scope for close in hunting for dangerous game ?

[@alanwomack5055]

So how long will it take to pay off the large loan that it will take to own one of these HIGH-END SCOPES ?

[@cpineo13]

These aren’t even close to high end scopes lol

[@bender43718]

I’d like to see a competitor to the Nightforce NX8 1-8.

[@linkchen8245]

1-8 FFP is Not daylight, overweight and made in china that cost 600? no thanks

[@MF-Rell]

It's a ffp It's going to weigh more and don't buy it. The viper is made in Taiwan.

[@barneypeng7015]

@@MF-Rell If I remember correctly the Viper Series are mostly made in Philippines.

[@MF-Rell]

@@barneypeng7015 I get them confused, But to be honest I think people take the whole made in China outrage way too serious. These same people have AKs and shoot 7.62x39. They never see the hypocrisy they have towards the Russians. I'll most certainly accept a holosun or an Aimpoint but if I'm going to war in going with an eotech.

[@barneypeng7015]

@@MF-Rell Yeah, "Made in China" doesn't always mean bad quaility or supporting the CCP. Some manufacures in China can produce nice products, and not everyone in China is brainwashed.

[@north4961]

@@MF-Rell 😂 your comment was written with a phone that was probably made in China … just saying.

[@bobbyboothe8964]

Are They AMERICAN Made,??

[@alanwomack5055]

Nope ,,,,MADE IN CHINA

[@grif5447]

Viper PST is Philippine