Evolution of Damage Logic in DRIVER Games (1999-2011)

[@SkullGriffin]

Even though the physics were not great, Driver: Parallel Lines had one of the best stories in video game history. The sad thing is that most people are unaware of its existence.

[@renatomota9830]

GTAs took all the hype

[@SkullGriffin]

Yeah. I can remember when people were bowing down and worshipping GTA V when it was first released. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I also liked playing "Mafia: Definitive Edition" and "Saints Row" (2022).

[@ATomatoIsAFruit]

This made me realize Driv3r was way ahead of its time in terms of damage modelling. Splitting vehicles apart with explosions, many detachable panels and debris, and accurate bullet holes? Really impressive. Makes me almost want to try that game out... almost.

[@VortexStory]

Try it

[@thecursedcombine3951]

This channel is just simply WAAAAAAAY too underrated.

[@VortexStory]

True

[@mrmanchicken5062]

I 100% agree

[@infinitebeerforce3269]

Just like the driver series

[@JohnDaubSuperfan369]

What the fuck? No it Isn't, as far as video game series go Driver has a very niche following, so this channel is exactly as rated as it oughta be

[@AuToMaNiAk005]

10:28 Today I learned that driving a car into the water sets its engine on fire.

[@danim8414]

Same

[@No-vq1iv]

Driver SF really pushed the damage limits with licensed vehicles, not taking into account racing simulators like Shift which get away with it more easily. Only game I can think of that had better damage on licensed cars is Wheelman, which was pretty much on par with games like GTA, but only because Pontiac was nearly bankrupt at the time and needed the exposure.

[@DJ_Thanos]

Race Driver: Grid

[@No-vq1iv]

That's a closed track racing game, they can get away with high damage more easily.

[@DJ_Thanos]

@@No-vq1iv plenty of closed track games have limited damage. Those with damage such as Grid's or NFS ProStreet as so few

[@No-vq1iv]

@@DJ_Thanos There are a lot more than street racing games. If they have limited damage it's because the developers choose to make it that way. But track racing games get away with destruction more easily, because it's all portrayed in a legal environment.

[@DJ_Thanos]

When I clicked on subscriptions and saw your video I thought "wait but I clicked subscriptions" then I saw it's uploaded by you lol Nice video btw, damage is a strong point in every Driver

[@MeadeJ67]

3:13 my man isn't knocked out.

[@evanhanley6437]

I miss attention to detail like this in a game. It really shows the level of effort put into a game to make it authentic.

[@VortexStory]

Modern games puts focus elsewhere, but I certainly miss an urban open-world with good driving mechanics...

[@evanhanley6437]

@@VortexStory This really hits hard.

[@seinov714]

One thing I suppose would be worth mentioning is that in Driver 2, If your vehicle get's wrecked at the same time as a pursuit end's, you are able to get out the car (With "You've wrecked your vehicle" being displayed). However, you have to be quick and your vehicle has to be on all 4 rims and going slow enough to not lead to the game over screen when holding "Up+Triangle". I remember doing this and usually, the words "You've wrecked your vehicle" stay on the screen for a few seconds after exiting the car.

[@starlighter93]

Driv3r was a really ambitious project on some aspects. A shame that the studio prioritized quick bucks over the one of a kind quality. Also, what is it with licensed cars can't explode? Is it some kind of marketing nonsense like "people won't by our cars if they think it can explode by repeatedly crashing into other cars or by being shot a 100 times with a machine gun" stuff?

[@VortexStory]

Brands have a lot of conditions for their cars to be shown in a video game. Explosions (or level of damages) are one of the restriction, but also the type of topic you can use (so too much mafia/mob story was not possible)

[@starlighter93]

@@VortexStory Thanks for the info. :)

[@1035pm]

We need a new driver game with soft body physics.... ASAP!! I wonder if anyone else had this experience with driver. So as I kid I’d love driving in Miami over the hump bridges at the north end. When getting chase by police one time the police car had rolled on its side, I drove back up to it ready to push it and the moment I hit the police cars sirens my car got thrown up into the air and landed upside down out side the map on the water. I had found a glitch.. and bug. After that that’s all I’d do, try and get a police car on its side, touch the sirens with the corner of my car and bam up in the air and down outside the map. It worked on all 4 city’s and was a really cool way of driving around where you shouldn’t. It blew my 7yr old little mind when I discovered that little glitch.

[@IsmaAirborne]

This is the quality content I expect when I open youtube ^_^ nice video

[@burritooDriver5291]

Very informative video Vortex! I kind of wish that Driver 2 kept the black smoke from the exhaust like Driver 1, though with OpenDriver being in development, I'm sure that will get covered. I find it weird how D:PL has better pronounced grey and black smoke compared to D3, but simplified other areas in the system like removing the windshield shatter particles.

[@VortexStory]

Going from DRIV3R to Driver: Parallel Lines is very displeasing in that regard!

[@JanRhein-xs1lk]

interior damage by hitting & shooting, driving with a flat tyre will make slightly deviate but all tyres punctured will be considerably slower to drive, full damage will make the vehicle not move, engine no fire from accidents by collision damage, engine fire by gunshot, amazing explosions, vehicle fully wrecked with 3 main pieces + props, no game over from full damage in Take a Ride, exit a damaged vehicle to take another vehicle, no vehicle repair at safehouse, only removing felony & claiming health Driv3r is the best because there's Turkey & multl language localizations including russian

[@cd-rommasterclass19]

Driver 3 had the most absurdly impressive damage system I had seen at the time! Heck, it puts modern games to shame, no sweat; my mind was blow the first time I watched a car explode in one of the many cool trailers our friends at Reflections put out. Sucks a lot was simplified in the transition to Parallel Lines, but it's understandable, the city was bigger and it had a day/night cycle going on and there wasn't much more to squeeze out of the PS2.

[@VortexStory]

Yeah, DRIV3R was such an improvement of the formula coming from Driver 2. Sadly, people at the time only looked for onfoot and guns (GTA influence) but DRIV3R did not that right.

[@cd-rommasterclass19]

@@VortexStory , true that, the biggest problem with Driver 3 was the lack of AI during on foot sections, since enemies can't do much, other than roll, stand and shoot; sucks, cuz I like the controls and the option to play in first person. Game had the driving physics still, but that wasn't what the mainstream gangsta wannabe folk of the time wanted anymore; don't get me wrong though, I like me some early 2000 edge, we could use some of that stuff these days. We could, too, use another Driver or something like it, I wish... Open world games these days might have all the graphics, but I'm yet to play one that has the physics on par with Driver and not something straight out of a flash game.

[@Eggyteevee]

Bonus Bonus: in DRIV3R, when you lose the two front wheels the car is "mute", only the sound when you burnout exists, then the car is muted

[@Clipsvibe]

amazing video hope you continue this series

[@VortexStory]

That's weird, I just checked your DSF reshade comparison video just before publishing this one!

[@gabrielsanabria2005]

You forgot one neat detail in Driv3r. The damage by gunshots depends on location. For example: if you shoot the back part of the car (if the engine is not there), it will not receive a lot of damage enough to explode. But if you shoot the engine, it will get a lot of damage. Jeez, this to be a 2004 game is amazing.

[@JayBirdBlu_117]

How did I not get this Video in my Notifications? Excellent DRIVER Damage Logic Video Vortex! #keepdriveralive

[@SergioFrias]

I really loved the physics and car damage in driver 3, next to it comes driver San Francisco,wich remindes me of burnout games only with inferior damage.

[@junior_character2541]

Nice video. Looking at the duration of the video, I thought you were going to show the handheld Driver games. Maybe another video to make?😯😯😯😯#Driver

[@RacinCollieStudios]

18:35 I salute you for sacrificing the Hummer instead of the R35

[@Ampelfreund]

Driver games are so underrated.

[@TheLifesach33z]

People can say whatever they want about Driv3r. They just don't know how it was back in '05, driving around nice with a grenade launcher, seeing car parts fly around, the physics engine was the best for its time. I loved GTA SA as a kid because of the gameplay, but I preferred Driv3r for its driving mechanics and physics. Gunplay sucked but it's always fun to blow up stuff with the tube. :D

[@SunstriderGames-cx7vr]

Having no doors in Driver 3, meant it's easier for the cops to shoot you.

[@gabrielcau1126]

make a video testing the artificial intelligence of the cars that pass on the street and of the pedestrians in the drives

[@FilaUndying-Archiwum]

As much as i love GTA series, i dont like they never had good damage system until IV. I always wished that III, VC and SA had Drivers damage model.

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

Wish Driv3r wasn't rushed, I bet it would've been amazing.

[@KalixtoMax]

Excelente and nice vídeo my friend Vortex

[@VortexStory]

Thank you my dear

[@vstarev2715]

This channel is amazing idont know why ppl dont watch driver videos):

[@VortexStory]

At least you have many content to watch here! And more is coming

[@vstarev2715]

@@VortexStory nice to here that😆

[@scottl.1568]

The only thing that really pissed me off about Driver was the lack of variation in car performance... I only played the first three games, i don't know if they fixed it in the last one.

[@minignoux4566]

driver 1 has a very in depth damage model (not as much driv3r obviously), someone showcased it on the pc version

[@Egycode216]

Soo about getting out of ur vehicle in driver 2 while its already on full damage isn't that like a glitch i mean we know always when ur vehicle crashed on full damage its already game cover but i tried that always but on ps1 version tho 10:12

[@buriedguy1582]

Dans Driver 3, avec le code d'invincibilité, tu peux rouler avec une voiture morte

[@mrmountaindev3958]

Bro i always follow your vids but i have question Is driver 76 had nice damage model

[@ryancooper6625]

this vid shows that driver frenchies is actually the real gta frenchies

[@VortexStory]

What's french in Driver?

[@gabryelporto6662]

I remember I used to play Driver 3 and spend hours smashing cars to see they lose parts or get totally deformed... Ah... Good times ❤

[@plonker007]

Driv3r is way better with crash physics then GTA5 will ever have

[@TheSultan1470]

Different games with different needs

[@1035pm]

Now gta4.... that was just delicious. I could drive around all day in that game. Gta5 on the other hand... like driving a slot car with no weight or feel.

[@YOEL_44]

Nice trivia, seems like you're a GTA fan LOL

[@jameshoward6822]

I thought I was the only who saw that

[@ralcolfwolfcoon8207]

Wrong game pal. And GTA doesn't even come close to this damage model.

[@AboTurkiPro]

I can't believe who made one of the greatest car games can't even make it great in the Watchdogs series like WTF UBISOFT?!

[@GamerGreekZone]

Anyone has a copy of driver san francisco? The version 1.03, the 1.04 has vsync error where it's forced on.

[@yexxyx]

Is it just me or is this video's vibe is alot like ENXGMA's logic videos?

[@VortexStory]

It is indeed a reuse of Enxgma's format but for the Driver series

[@scottl.1568]

Fuckin' good old days 🫡

[@randomboy1009]

enxma nice btw nice video

[@lusiwahyuningrum7979]

Same music from enxgma but underrated

[@VortexStory]

The whole format is inspired by Enxgma videos !

[@GabrielCarvalho-wc6gv]

I know i'm a bit late, but we need a new driver SF. That game was sooooo good

[@VortexStory]

@@GabrielCarvalho-wc6gv it's never too late for Driver

[@GabrielCarvalho-wc6gv]

@@VortexStory sheet you have spoken facts

[@KyroAtelerix]

Please do next evolution public transport

[@VortexStory]

DSF: *cries*

[@K-PLAY-ng9pe]

OMEGA I love this game

[@Illuminati36]

Driver 1 & 2 are the best

[@danim8414]

The EXNGMA of driver

[@VortexStory]

Thanks! What should I compare next?

[@danim8414]

@@VortexStory evolution of protagonist in driver

[@Tarles_X]

i think you forget about driver syndicate in the list.

[@vasqu3z_7]

12:55 what is this player model ??

[@VortexStory]

It's Didier Dubois

[@vasqu3z_7]

@@VortexStory looks like tanner with his clothes lol but how do you play him tho ?

[@mat_taro06]

*damage*

[@VortexStory]

Failed: the car is wrecked

[@markedm]

how does Driver 1 have better car deformation than GTA 5.

[@Oday212]

why are you using engxma music?

[@undead1055]

Suggestion. Gun logic in driver

[@motley17cru]

I just want Driver Parallel Lines with Driv3r car damage

[@Victor_2000s]

Do a similar video, but with Midnight Club franchise.

[@VortexStory]

Midnight club is not my expertise. I should do more on Driver tho

[@zngru]

THANKS.

[@Kaiju_RiV]

18:09 which mod?

[@VortexStory]

It's called "Mod Menu": www.moddb.com/games/driver-san-francisco/downloads/mod-menu1

[@Kaiju_RiV]

@@VortexStory thank you very much because I never heard or found it before :D

[@VortexStory]

There are some showcase videos on KZbin, including from myself

[@tiiliseina3315]

I dont understand why i wasnt subscribed

[@VortexStory]

I dont know, but now you are (I guess )

[@tiiliseina3315]

@@VortexStory guessed right

[@boymazovia6470]

I love this Chanel 😃

[@VortexStory]

Me too

[@boymazovia6470]

@@VortexStory 😃

[@Yolanda-bo8gd]

Hello tanner

[@VortexStory]

Hello Driver

[@jadawngriffis3745]

Driver 3 underrated

[@naidedossantos500]

yeah

[@FR3654L]

All this time I thought asym was real THEY TRICKED US

[@aldo_agazzi]

Driver 76??

[@kevinfelten9059]

ALL DRIVER DAMAGE V2"5 2021)😀😀

[@shinka2109]

the impala taxi with all panels off is just a generic yellow impala lmao

[@John-TannerDSF]

"DRIVER Is Better Then GTA" - Description, I Agree Thoghu

[@MrFaucheur]

Driv3r >>> all

[@MrAshot]

MAX DAMAGEEEEEE

[@rayh6118]

Driver 1 good damage physics Driver 2 same as above Driver 3 even better Driver parallel lines it's evolving just backwards Driver Sf same as driver 1

[@aljabbarramadhan2868]

Driver damage wreck car

[@Cannibalism391]

You are copying ENIGXMA in every way possible, at least change the song, what the hell

[@VortexStory]

Well, the whole idea of this series of videos is to do comparison enigxma style

[@miraxandrax969]

Gta won't reach this level