How China uses fruit to punish Taiwan

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In September 2021, China banned the import of sugar apples, or atemoya, from Taiwan, claiming they were bringing in pests. Critics say pests are an excuse, and China is weaponizing trade with Taiwan. And this isn’t the first time. In February of 2021, China banned the import of Taiwanese pineapples, causing a backlog and threatening farmers' livelihoods across the country.
The current situation is tied to a complex history that goes back to the Chinese civil war, and to recent tensions that go back to 2016, when Taiwan elected a new president. Since then, Chinese military incursions into Taiwan’s air space have been on the rise, and the relation between the two has kept deteriorating. Fruit is the latest expression of this.
To understand how this atemoya ban impacts farmers in Taiwan, and how it all ties together, watch our video.
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[@Andrew-ob5ij]

If anything we learned from our supply lines during covid, don’t rely entirely on one country for anything

[@zlpatriot11]

Same goes for manufacturing.

[@user-xiaoyaoniangwangbo]

Can you?

[@lesussie2237]

yeah this one shows how adaptive our supply lines can be like the pineapple market demand shifting to Japan

[@jeffreybower]

Especially a non-democratic one.

[@Manish-ud4sl]

@@jeffreybower you mean endia?

[@JakieToJestPojebane]

This reminds me of when Russia banned Polish apples. There was a big campaign in the media to eat more apples and drink more cider. I must say, I contributed enormously, mostly to the second part.

[@andrewjackson7970]

but partially to the first?

[@chi6989]

@@andrewjackson7970 I think it means he drank a lot of wine.

[@ThaNarc]

@@chi6989 *cider

[@ThaNarc]

Does this fruit have a alchol equivalent?

[@Bacopa68]

Johnny Appleseed here in the US was an American Dionysus. Almost none of his trees were suitable for table fruit, but acceptable for fermenting into cider. And if you want to get drunk faster, there's always Apple Jack. Dolley Parton sang a song about it.

[@who-ss9bh]

Fun fact: Since the fruit war happened a few months before the Tokyo Olympics in the summer of 2021, the Japan's Olympic Committee imported tons of Taiwanese bananas and pineapples. Also, many Japanese bought Taiwanese pineapples as a way to return the help they received from the Taiwanese during the 2011 earthquake.

[@zhangburnham7226]

Fun fact Japan removes Taiwanese bananas due to excessive pesticides，also，USA bans imports of Taiwan pineapples

[@shrayesraman5192]

Love to see asian countries acting independently of China. Only way to contain their aggressive expansion

[@yeshuayoon]

So embarrassing how Taiwan has to be dependent on former enemies haha

[@bravesl6666]

Japan should establish official diplomacy with Taiwan

[@luangxin2082]

Mongolia = China ancestors 😆 China = son of Japan 🤣

[@probablyaman]

I really appreciate you mentioning the Freedom Pineapple campaign, especially both the positive and negative impacts. Most news in Taiwan only mention how Taiwan "won" against the Chinese ban. But the truth is that the farmers who worked the hardest were not really compensated.

[@Zyloch]

This is the first time, I've heard of the impact as well. Which makes me appreciate this video even more, since it provides facts and lead the viewer to form their opinion. It's no longer a video about one side winning.

[@husemeerbolat3861]

YERLERİN VE GÖKLERİN VE HERŞEYİN SAHİBİ YÜCE ALLAH CC ALLATAN BAŞKA İLAH YOKTUR ALLAH KATINDA HAK DİN İSLAMDIR MUHAMMED ALAHIN PEYGAMBERİDİR GÜZEL İNSAN HUZUR ARIYORSAN HUZUR İSLAMDA GÜZEL İNSAN MÜSLÜMAN OLMADAN CENNETE GİREMESSİN

[@himesilva]

It's seems like the best way to find impartial news about your country if to look at foreign media (from a neutral country obviously)

[@vstachen7761]

The Taiwan region prohibits the import of any agricultural products from the mainland. Taiwan receives a surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars from the mainland every year!

[@Zyloch]

@@vstachen7761 What are you trying to say? That the pineapple trade deal only benefits Taiwan previously? because Taiwan doesn't import Agricultural goods from China?

[@D4PPZ456]

There are millions of fruits that would blow all of our minds that only locals in the places where they tend to grow will know about. It's a shame that fruits like Atemoyas are completely unavailable in many parts of the world.

[@kapudanuderya]

When I was in South America I tried every weird fruit I didn't know about. Then I had diarrhea for days lol

[@lesussie2237]

outside of Asia, tropical fruit varieties are much more limited. for example, here in Indonesia, we have dozens of varieties of bananas, but western markets usually just consume cavendish

[@Slashplite]

@@kapudanuderya In Amazon alone ive tried more than 20+ new fruits that ive never seen in my life

[@FrancoisCarment]

I really dont see why it would be a shame. Quite the opposite. If we are serious about reducing global warming, we should consume local fruits and on season...

[@nuzayerov]

@@lesussie2237 , yeah! In Bangladesh too, we have a variety of Banana we call "Bangla Kola" (transl. Bangla Banana). Its (in my opinion) the most tastiest banana out of all the other types I've eaten yet. Its reallyyyy sweet and quite soft.

[@FireRupee]

1:45 The Nationalists didn't create the name "Republic of China" _after_ relocating the capital to Taipei in 1949. The name "Republic of China" has been in use since 1912.

[@bctvanw]

Taiwan was part of Japan in 1912. Taiwanese did not participate the founding of ROC. ROC even had a Chinese consulate in Taipei in 1930s.

[@FireRupee]

@@bctvanw Yes. Taiwan and Penghu were a colony of Japan in 1912, and the ROC gained control of them in 1945; Kinmen, Matsu, Wuqiu were controlled by the ROC in 1912, and not Japan. Taiping has been administered by the ROC since 1945 (read: before 1949). My point was that the video makes it sound like the ROC only came to be as a result of the Chinese Civil War, which is not so.

[@kianono3209]

The Japan Empire officially give up Formosa in the San Francisco treaty of WW2 in 1951 , before that Taiwanese still Japanese citizens . China didn't take part in the San Francisco Treaty .

[@MFLOVEify]

@@bctvanw do you understand that was done through illegal occupation through invasion?

[@democracydignityhumanrights]

It’s also important to remember that the ROC was a dictatorship until the 90s, and it took a lot of public pressure from the Taiwanese people to change that.

[@sedrickhamani7843]

This fruit just disappeared in Cameroon all of a sudden for years now and it's incredibly amazing fruit

[@PHlophe]

it has never disappeared in africa. african ones are much much bigger then chinese ones. you need solid tropical heat for these and they grow fast like Pupaya

[@hermeslein6614]

Sorry But Taiwan belongs to China deal with it America is falling while Keeps getting stronger

[@ChrisAsia]

Nah it's super disgusting. Way to sweet and sticky. And don't get me started about the seeds.

[@treacheroustrouser4652]

Rip Francis ngannou

[@husemeerbolat3861]

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[@khalilahd.]

Isn’t it incredible how we can literally politicize ANYTHING for power? Even fruit 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@MynameisBrianZX]

History had something aptly called the Banana Wars

[@jeanbrunma]

There is a reason there is such a thing as banana republics. Americans are just as bad.

[@jackroyaltea5034]

Go read up on Banana republics. In fact we have a rich history of using fruit to keep a people under our thumb.

[@HShango]

I agree it's very petty 😑

[@HShango]

@@jackroyaltea5034 that's also very true

[@Handle0108]

Thankfully, the Taiwanese economy is not entirely dependent on primary goods like fruits to run, and there are very advanced industries like the semiconductors, computers and other technologies. Taiwan should focus on these more and they can be like Japan and Korea.

[@alphestanley7194]

Taiwan is already like Japan and Korea, they have a hold against global economies with their semiconductor production. Anyways the whole “ban” was just a symbolic move just like what they did to the Philippines. If China wanted to choke Taiwan (and themselves) they have to cut semiconductor trade.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

Taiwan is already very japan korea like

[@ggyrcrrs.7]

台湾不是国家！！！

[@andrewjackson7970]

not a huge blow, just a precursor move

[@Merugaf]

Taiwan has a diversified economy and has the most authentic Chinese experience there is.

[@peteroneill5426]

Reminds me of the Anglo-Irish Trade War of the 20s and 30s. The small and newly independent Ireland was locked in a bitter conflict over agricultural goods with the UK. It was a different dynamic however, as we were both the main importer/exporter for each other. Geopolitics, economics and history make a dangerous combination. Long live Taiwan, nonetheless, from one small island to another!

[@VerhoevenSimon]

Interesting, any good resources on this you can recommend?

[@s5565589]

Thanks!

[@lex7724]

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[@craigmertz1994]

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[@lawrencebautista1]

I haven't tried Taiwanese mangoes yet. Their main variety is the 'Irwin' with an attractive red color and as sweet as the Japanese ones. Wish they'll export some to Southeast Asia particularly the Philippines. Our mango season is from April to June, while Taiwan's is from June to August. We could enjoy Taiwanese mangoes when ours are already out of season and vice versa for Taiwan.

[@mabo9636]

I am in Thailand. I haven't seen any from TW yet.

[@lun4972]

Hi I'm from Taiwan, and I have to say our fruit is really delicious . they're also sweeter than you can imagine ! hope someday you will get the chance to try them !

[@thewatchler97]

@@lun4972 love Taiwanese Irvin mangoes, but yet to see any of them in my region (Malaysia, Singapore). Hopefully we will able to buy them at the market in near future.

[@tartaglia.]

I love the mangoes from the Philippines! I hope I’ll get to try some Taiwanese mangoes one day, but I haven’t seen any in HK.

[@vstachen7761]

The Taiwan region prohibits the import of any agricultural products from the mainland. Taiwan receives a surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars from the mainland every year!

[@eliasross4576]

I had atemoya on a bicycle ride around Taiwan I think back in 2009 or so. They were incredible. It was eating a fruit custard. I don't think you can get them very easily in the US. I see some sites offering a 9 pound box for almost $200 for fruit grown in Florida. (The fruit, which is a hybrid, was developed in Florida.)

[@husemeerbolat3861]

YERLERİN VE GÖKLERİN VE HERŞEYİN SAHİBİ YÜCE ALLAH CC ALLATAN BAŞKA İLAH YOKTUR ALLAH KATINDA HAK DİN İSLAMDIR MUHAMMED ALAHIN PEYGAMBERİDİR GÜZEL İNSAN HUZUR ARIYORSAN HUZUR İSLAMDA GÜZEL İNSAN MÜSLÜMAN OLMADAN CENNETE GİREMESSİN

[@punkdigerati]

@@Paonporteur mostly Cherimoya in Hawaii, but frankly Hawaii barely exports fruit anymore, it's just not as cost effective for producers vs much, much less expensive places in South America and Asia.

[@TheEfX]

We as vietnamese people face this problem too. Even though it seems less harsh than taiwan. But it happens constaintly. We. As farmers are forced to switch fruits to export to china. And china keeps banning this banning that

[@seeclipse6788]

Lol... Your country deserve it !

[@aliehudson6796]

That's the Achilles heel of our economy. Dependence on China means yhey have leverage over us and our economy. So long as this reliance remains we still have to be fearful of them. I hope policy makers can do something about this

[@kentonbenoit9629]

Many countries including mine are having this problem... The resurgence of Authoritarianism is a problem that must be confronted 😐

[@bessie6448]

it's pure business, period! if you dont feel comfortable, just dont sell things to China. period. just dont lie 'bout the fact that you want to make money from China. Make money from other countries!!!

[@AnimeIsLayfu]

@@bessie6448 that's easier said than done. China is a huge market and not to br able to enter is a lose, a huge lose. If you are just a small farmer and not into imports then this doesn't hurt you big time.

[@warw]

Atemoya tastes incredible. Planted 2 trees this year. Really interesting to see it in the middle of this issue.

[@stefanscicluna2799]

Can you buy them online

[@rosenberry9150]

@@stefanscicluna2799 I think so, I mean… I bought it in 2018 in Southeast Asia.

[@Alpha-Mike-Foxtrot]

I always wanted to try one. I saw them on Anthony Bourdain's show I think.

[@PHlophe]

@@stefanscicluna2799 it rots super fast and when imported you could find living insects inside since it takes ages to arrive. i planted a tree of atemoya when i was eswatini with my great grand father when i wsas 6. it is still standing. we call it XabaXaxhi

[@warw]

@@stefanscicluna2799 Miami fruit sells them but they're pretty expensive. I have yet to find them except in one fruit market in Hawaii. Asian grocers may have it, it looks like annona squamosa, but is not the same. USA season should be around September. Ill ship you one in a few years when ours is big enough to produce fruit, lol. Check out 'weird explorer's video on atemoya

[@cesarsantis5116]

In the 80s, U.S.A banned chilean grapes to punish the dictatorship that ruled Chile. Then, the dictator decided to distribute the grapes in all public schools. That year we ate a lot of grapes.

[@stoutyyyy]

>installs dictator >gets mad at dictator they installed >punishes grape farmers for it

[@nsevv]

@@stoutyyyy nope, the grapes were bad.

[@lucastang1486]

China did the same thing to Australia, banning lobster, wine, barley etc.

[@PHlophe]

Lucas Tsang, russia learned it from china.

[@Commander_HW]

Yes, because U.S told AU to stop selling ore to China, then right after AU stopped selling, U.S swooped in and stole that market from AU and started to sell ore to China. Ore sectors in AU are extremely mad about U.S and Scott Morrison.

[@lvjinbin28]

that's how China learnt from USA:sanction.

[@tkw3864]

Australia banned China’s 5G first.

[@SG-ct2tb]

Australia beserved it. They sanctioned china FIRST. China just retaliated and now Australia mad. That's what they get.

[@mugtiles]

Pettiness is everywhere.

[@Doochos]

especially with the CCP

[@ysnsmth]

the CCP is a textbook definition of pettiness

[@megamastah]

@@Doochos And CCCP.

[@hyy3657]

@@Doochos But have to point out that, the fact Chinese bought those fruit at a higher price, it is obvious...now Taiwan don't want to be unified as the KMT party era does, China react with reason.

[@chansherly212]

No wonder there was pineapple flavoured bun in that taiwanese resturant i went to the other day, which was apparently its speciality (here in malaysia)

[@tensai0805]

I'm not sure if that is a fair statement, cause both Japan and Australia found insects during border inspection. And Taiwanese media downplayed the whole thing.

[@bessie6448]

Vox will never cover this in their story, because it's media war. it's a whole 'Destroy China' plan. we'll see more negative news coverage on China.

[@jchen8942]

It's totally a fair statement because china waited for a long time to ban fruits after pests were found. China Taiwan relationship is a very sensitive topic, almost everything Taiwan and china do in relation to each other has a political aspect. To say that it doesn't represent a very naive perspective on cross strait relations.

[@YIHUNGJEN]

this reporting is trying to make a confusing statement by jumbling the timeline. Incident with pineapple happened first and fervor in protecting domestic fruit industry was high, for a while. When wax apple and then this got banned, farmers were decimated, and the tw government had no recourse. The problem is yes you should diversify, but no effort or policy were made to address diversification in export partners. This government as of 2022 had been in power for 6yrs holding both the executive branch and the legislative branch of government. Blaming your enemy to take advantage of you is not only an embarrassment for a government who claims to be in the good interest of its ppl, but a major negligence in responsibility

[@jchen8942]

Diversification isn't that easy. You can't just say we are going to diversify and do it without a market for it. Who are you going to diversify to? Taiwan was only able to diversify pineapples in this situation by making a big show and calling for help from allied countries. This maneuver would be difficult over time, when it doesn't seem to be a one time thing. other countries aren't that interested in buying fruits

[@silentwf]

Hi Vox, thanks for reporting on this issue. I'd like to point out there's an error around 1:40 mark. The Republic of China was established in 1912 which already included Taiwan (but was colonized by Japan at this time), not after the Nationalist party lost the civil war. The nationalist party moved the government to Taiwan after losing the 1949 civil war. This is an important distinction since presenting the video in the manner where CCP's PROC was created at the same time as ROC may mislead your audience to believe that ROC (Taiwan) has no proper claim over its sovereignty. Another subtle detail that is lost is that when Japan lost WW2 in 1945 and had to return Taiwan to "China", Japan was returning Taiwan to ROC - an already established government.

[@bessie6448]

Vox got the source from anti-Republic of China, so what do you expect from Vox? and why r u so surprised? it's not an accident!

[@fafazuzu125]

其實我也覺得台灣的統治權爭議比其他大國小國分離爭議來得清楚明瞭許多。中國的行政官員從來沒有踏上台灣的土地過。

[@bctvanw]

If you get into details, Taiwan was not "returned" to China. KMT was shipped and ordered by the US to occupy Taiwan. KMT just took the chance to annex Taiwan. USA needed allies so bad to fight against the Soviets, so USA just let it be. Japan actually did not give up Taiwan officially until 1951 when the Treaty of San Francisco was signed. During 1945... the so called ROC government was not so "unified" too in China... Manchuria, Mongolia, Tibet... were not under it's control... KMT gained territories from Japan's surrender in China, but not all of them... For example, Manchuria was occupied by the USSR and later given to CCP. Before KMT was order to occupy Taiwan, it was ordered to occupy Northern Indochina.

[@avatarxs]

This is not entirely correct. At the founding of ROC, Taiwan was Japanese soil, full stop.

[@pong9000]

Is it like the American South losing the Civil War attacked and occupied Cuba?

[@JK-iw6yn]

As a Hongkonger I’m more than happy to eat Taiwan fruits! I ate so many pineapples last year. They taste so good!

[@thinkpink1021]

I live in Japan and I looooove Taiwanese pineapples. Now they are pretty cheap, if it can benefit the farmers, just raise the price!! I’ll still buy them for sure.

[@georgekoribanic2524]

Cheers to those farmers in the video, you can just tell that they are some genuinely stand up men. Hope it gets better for em.

[@himimedak656]

I love taiwanese food so much!! everything is tastier there🥺🥺

[@HShango]

No doubt

[@user-xiaoyaoniangwangbo]

🔥

[@xi1864]

taiwan bot

[@ggyrcrrs.7]

@@HShango *中国菜

[@schmuleyboteak4112]

China has the richest, most variated kitchen.

[@Globalsouthie]

Well , US did the same with India for mangoes for trade deals !!

[@Globalsouthie]

@Galaxies idk about tomatoes but stopped exporting cotton which almost chocked Pakistan's weaving industry.

[@linling1240]

When I was living in China, i didn’t know many people that would have Taiwanese fruits as their first option-i certainly wouldn’t. Taiwan produces quality delicious fruits but the prices are way higher than Chinese local fruits and the fruits that are imported from southeast asian countries. Taiwanese fruits are definitely considered luxury.

[@chibichumon]

Custard apples are so good! I’ve never tasted such a naturally sweet fruit. Really grateful for other countries and entities that quickly stepped in to buy the fruits China unfairly and corruptly denied. Also thanks, Vox for shedding light on this for others to see.

[@addium3151]

Remember Huawei? It was banned by the us during the US China trade war for national security reasons, yet there was no evidence of huawei phones doing any spying at all.

[@husemeerbolat3861]

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[@wiltmarlonelao]

I think you ought to try Philippine mangoes too. I don't think there's any fruit sweeter than it.

[@rongarcia2128]

Look Chinese, speak Chinese. Why hate each other for the benefit of a white man?

[@vstachen7761]

The Taiwan region prohibits the import of any agricultural products from the mainland. Taiwan receives a surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars from the mainland every year!

[@vitasoy1437]

This kind of reminds me of Mexican avacadoes, most of them export to US and a recent US hold to stop them from coming hurt those farmers.

[@alexyan999]

The two places are only 150 kilometers apart, do you really think that the mainland on the left can't grow the same fruit? There is only one fact, that is, the mainland on the left has been buying fruits grown by the farmers on the island to subsidize the farmers on the island, which is called the release of goodwill. But how the people on the island viewed the mainland, they felt that it was all deserved, just as the people of the whole world owed them. Now they have made the people on the mainland unhappy, and there is nothing wrong with others not buying, and the fault is that the people on the island do not know what to do and have no grateful heart.

[@Friek555]

It's a major failure of the UN that Taiwan is not part of it. The function of the UN is to be a forum where all nations of the world are represented. Of all the countries that are not in the UN, Taiwan is the oldest, most established and most democratic. Edit: Just to clarify: On the 2021 democracy index, Taiwan is number 8 of 167, by that measure it is more democratic than any non-Nordic EU country.

[@iii2183]

Are you trying to say Taiwan is a country or not. You are very self contradicting.

[@mauriciojr.4428]

@@iii2183 Taiwan is a country

[@iii2183]

@@mauriciojr.4428 I find it funny people keep saying Taiwan is a country. I mean if Taiwan is a country there is no need to be kept saying, like I don't hear people saying Japan is a country. Unless the fact is Taiwan is not accepted as a country by 90 percent of the planet nations, then there is a need to emphaize Taiwan is a country. Likewise, I dont hear Ukraine is a country, because it is a sovereign country. Only area that are not recognized internationally like Taiwan, then the insecure led to spamming of "Taiwan is a country".

[@afctaylor12]

They were part of un but did a bad job of representing Asia as well china it self and went back to mainland china

[@gamermapper]

Should the UN accept any self-declared breakaway states? Or only those that you personally agree with? Then the UN should accept Abkhazia too, but of course you wouldn't have supported that, despite what the Abkhazians want, because the US says that they're illegitimate.

[@jondoe9548]

Vox makes documentaries on random topics so interesting. Appreciate the hard work. 👏

[@paperflight5803]

Fun fact, China does not actual need these fruit. Just for Taiwan.

[@rosewilliams6328]

Taiwan officially recognizes its establishment as a country to the year 1911. I am surprised the video did not mention that. In fact, 1911 is an important enough year that the Taiwanese calendar uses it as the year “0” when dating official documents. (Thus my confusion when my Alien Resident Card said I was born in the year 73, instead of 1984.)

[@masterchiefy830]

Then the Taiwanese Goverment should start a factory to "CAN" this fruits for export.

[@calvin10]

These days anything related to china is going to be controversial one way or another

[@bessie6448]

why r u so surprised?! we want to trash China first, then destroy China next. it's media war.

[@tkw3864]

Things remain controversial only because China got strong military+nuclear weapons. Iraq and Libya didn’t get a chance to be ‘controversial’ when they were invaded by the US and Europe.

[@kagamitaiga7055]

Thats how they get views once throw china name 😂😂😂✋ people will be curious what china do

[@nisstw]

Not "punish", It's BULLYING.

[@abhi4u20]

Rest countries should buy them and let local chef and restaurant do the innovation. This way you can create a beautiful history.

[@zyansheep]

Yum

[@bhagyajitdas1498]

I guess you didn't watched it carefully...when they did that most of the money goes to exporter not to farmers

[@feiyu8988]

fruit needs stricter conditions within long term export and no other countries to have such huge consumptions like RPC

[@62sy]

As stated: costs go up when selling to different countries and the farmer actually end up losing money.

[@chrischan9807]

@@bhagyajitdas1498 Yes we need more fair trade fruits with Taiwan, don't let the greedy exporters exploit the geopolitics

[@bboystretch7788]

Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are dead and millions suffering from starvation in Yemen, Syria and Afghanistan.

[@LegendNinja41]

Yep! Western Media again blowing up a minor issue and barely reporting on huge issues like Yemen or Afghanistan.

[@JuanRamirez-zk9lt]

Ok

[@Jdbfyskxuek]

the video is great! really give the audience the history context. the only problem is that the translation in the subtitle is not very accurate. you should improve that to convey the precise message from the speakers

[@chun-yuchen9657]

The free country of Taiwan and the free world stands against the evil ccp everyday.

[@lzh4950]

Here in Singapore my father was excited when the then mayor of Taiwan/ROC's 2nd largest city Kaohsiung & rising KMT star Han Kuo-yu announced plans to export more fruits to my country, & often asked when it'd come. When it did he found it too expensive however (Singapore's overall cost of living is actually slightly higher than Taiwan but our agricultural produce is mostly imported from other SE Asian countries, whose cost of living are mostly lower (though import/transport costs will raise the selling price) as we found it more profitable to use our (more limited) land for secondary/tertiary industries instead of primary ones e.g. agriculture)

[@unexpectedme9992]

I just edited a video today and i just want to say i appreciate the editors for thier work

[@crackedribs]

I’m on a long train ride in Taiwan through the mountains now and downloaded your video to educate myself about Taiwan. I really enjoyed hearing it thank you

[@thetrison]

"Taiwan, where pineapples on pizzas are welcomed?" Well, like many things China does, they usually blow up in their face.

[@Kylelongwest]

Mango in Cambodia is $0.30 per kg, it even cheaper at wholesale.

[@jchastain789]

Thank you for the long travel and dedication to create this video. Awesome information

[@courtneypuzzo2502]

read up on international fruit company/Dole they did the same thing in Hawaii with Bananas Coconuts etc.

[@10aci0us]

This reminds me of the sanctions imposed by the Americans on those countries that are not in-line with them.

[@SG-ct2tb]

Exactly this. But it's never a problem when amerikkka or other European countries do it. They have got away with literally STARVING Yemen, Cuba and north Korea. No public outrage over that.

[@thinkcat01]

K 10 acious They had to be sanction like Russia. Otherwise, these rogue nations will encourage other countries to invade another countries. Sanction is a deterrent.

[@ambarpino1199]

It reminds me US an EU doing similar trades with "no so powerful countrys" in central america, south america and africa, for whatever reason. Sometimes banned the imports, sometimes sinking the trade in burocracy and sometimes regulating the price in some ways that no one in the country will boght it... It's a well known history for us.

[@pong9000]

Banana republics ... mango republics.

[@MynameisBrianZX]

not really the point, but wax apples have a fantastic texture and pleasant flavor, maybe they ship more over here huh

[@fiatlux8828]

I love this fruit. It tastes super similar to a piña colada. Goes well in ice cream too.

[@Edska1]

Gosh, I love custard apple, I lived in Taitung, Taiwan for a few months and really enjoyed it, especially this fruit :)

[@LeeannHuang]

Taiwanese atemoya and pineapples have such a unique and rich flavor. They’re my favorite thing to eat when I visit. I wish they were accessible/ imported to the US. The pineapple is like custard, not even sour

[@TheMightyAgency]

Assuming they can pass USDA regulations, making a deal with Costco can move any surplus in no time. Costco seems to be more opened to "exotic" fruit since you can already get durian-derived products and fresh jackfruit. I may have seen dragon fruit in the past so it wouldn't be a stretch to see atemoya.

[@catcastle4377]

Atis?! It's called atis in the Philippines. It's delicious. The last time I've eaten one was when I was a kid.

[@nkstorm4]

It's a mix of atis and pineapple

[@mjjjuly]

Like bananas, there are variants. Tundan and Lakatan don't taste the same, so i'd expect Atemoya to have a different taste from our local atis.

[@catcastle4377]

@@nkstorm4 it does look bigger and a bit different. I hope I will have a chance to try Atemoya

[@tauceti8060]

Why so long you last eaten it?

[@catcastle4377]

@@tauceti8060 my neighbor used to have a tree but then they cut it down. And I don't see it at our local market. I might check soon if I could find it at our local market :)

[@giavo4538]

I’m from Vietnam and I really know China did like this lots of time not only in Taiwan, Vietnam but also other nations. And Vietnamese people learned from this lesson a lot and have some deal to get out of this trap!

[@Steven.K8]

All superpowers do this, USA is currently doing it to Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and anyone who has a different opinion to USA

[@beckya3048]

首先中国大陆为什么会成为台湾最大的贸易伙伴？一个愿意买，一个愿意卖，谁出的价高就卖给谁，谁愿意买就卖给谁呗，这是台湾赚大陆消费者的钱，台湾才是受益者。疫情大陆这边农民也难啊，在疫情的情况下，还想赚得比以前多，在想什么呢？不管这个媒体带节奏，还是转移注意，拜托如果真正希望两岸和平，请放一些两岸互相帮助的事吧。

[@chongqingcapybara1306]

想多了 白左媒体哪儿管你台湾死活 只是纯粹想黑共党罢了

[@quetzalcoatl3242]

The same the USA did to Mexico with avocado few weeks ago. I hope you can make a video about it too.

[@rcbrascan]

The US does it all the time with Canada and Canada has to go to the WTO or NAFTA court to fight it.

[@MichelNabil]

They would never mention that

[@SpiritsBB]

I gotta say, the vegetables Mexico sends to Canada is superior to what we had before.

[@ultravioletgaia]

U mean the avocado cartel

[@attaac]

Sadly, it's always the people and residents that suffer

[@afrz4454]

For me a pineapple symbolizes the extent trade routes different native Americans would have with each other as well as their ability for natural selection and how the practices got disbanded and forgotten when the European colonizers arrived.

[@cursedtgaming3868]

China already do that to the Philippines many years ago, during the South China Sea tension esacalted, China denied the banana products in the Philippines

[@subhojeet_001]

As a person who has never been to Taiwan or China I can tell you that I have never been to Taiwan and China. 🇨🇳🇹🇼

[@accordiongordon]

Well this was an irrelevant comment

[@麻豆-r9h]

难绷

[@subhojeet_001]

@@accordiongordon 😅😅

[@DomyTheMad420]

this is beyond funny "nono we no longer want to conquer you. trust us. here, we'll even lower the tarifs and make it so your economy is dependant i mean friends with ours."

[@Oliver-qk3dp]

China's greed and behaviour like an upset toddler...

[@hohgetsukibi1002]

In Japan, I can find Taiwanese pineapples in every supermarket and many people bought them to support Taiwan, but I didn't know these campaign have negative side.

[@hadrien03]

This videos makes me want a Vox Border Taiwan series!

[@mightygerman8141]

Vietnamese farmers: First time?

[@mattyoung4077]

This is very similar to when China threatened NZ kiwifruit exports after claims that China was dumping poor-quality steel in NZ.

[@旅人途见]

Taiwan bans the import of all mainland agricultural products

[@sambotezatu]

here in Moldova we had the same problem with russia when they banned our fruit, vegetables and a few years later wine which is he main moldavian export

[@anastasiaf.4421]

Where can I find these fruits in Houston? I love trying new fruits and was amazed by offers in San Francisco's Chinatown!

[@bessie6448]

it's hard to find Taiwanese fruit simply because it's tropical fruit and not suitable for long distance shipment. Plus the high-maintenance shipment fees will add to the price which will make it too expensive for Americans to afford.

[@choushell]

Canada must support Taiwan and buy those fruits. Send them here!

[@garyermann]

It's really hard to ship fruits long distances, so it's unlikely you're ever going to see many Taiwanese fruits in North America. The video even hints at this when it talks about how much more expensive it is for Taiwanese exporters just to get the fruit to Japan and South Korea, which are much closer.

[@choushell]

@@garyermann true, that is why I am always happy to see taiwanese guavas in our Asian supermarkets in Vancouver or Edmonton

[@xevan_knight_official]

The atemoya fruit is actually a fruit we have here in Jamiaca. Here it is called "sour sop". There are two variations: the atemoya (sour sop) version that we usually use to make sour sop juice...and the other is called "sweet sop" which is usually smaller sweeter and chewier 🤗🤗 I hope Taiwan doesn't cave to china...I really hope they get help from other nations to help them fight back against that oppression

[@ceowin]

The food scene in Taiwan is just incredible. My favorite country to eat around in!

[@kevintang9913]

LOL, there are people breaking out of the firewall only to defend it. The irony.

[@leezhieng]

that's if you think only people in china support china.

[@kevintang9913]

@@leezhieng Ok, but I'm only talking about those comments that clearly came from China, so idk what you're trying to say but ok

[@The-Cookie]

People have always had vpns in the first place wdym

[@ShawnLH88]

your channel should have 50 million subs your content is just so amazing and in depth and unique. i wouldve never known about this as a westerner

[@laizhuoxun]

Well Taiwan farmers could and should protest against their own government. The freedom!

[@nihilisticgacha]

Did you even pay attention to the video? It’s not that simple and can be solved by protesting to the government. It’s a dilemma. Taiwan doesn’t want a government that aligns with China, but at the same time, Taiwan’s economy is susceptible to China’s malicious manipulation since China is one of the main markets Taiwan sells to. Unless you support the unification, which is exactly the opposite thing you argued for: freedom.

[@laizhuoxun]

@@nihilisticgacha Well you are right, a dilemma. But here's my logic: For Taiwan farmers, selling to China makes the most profit. But Taiwan gov chooses to not go along with China gov, which hurts TW farmers. So what shall the fruit growers do? Sell to Japan and make less money, or protest against their gov for the "bad" policy?

[@thanhtungtommynguyen4352]

First lesson on Business 101, never put all eggs on 1 basket. Just that simple.

[@maityman317]

They didn't flee to Taiwan and call it the ROC, they went to their only remaining stronghold and continued to represent what they saw as the ROC. Simple simple simple facts got wrong. Suspicious.

[@thomasau3204]

Honestly, don't get how reunification of a country is seemed as a bad thing. Much less by foreigners of the affair, it's like would China have a say on how things are dictated in the US/EU ?

[@jasnoon9516]

Because the Taiwanese want to be a seperate country. They don’t want reunification with China. For example, Ukraine used to be part of the Soviet Union but became their own country, even if Russia still thinks it should own Ukraine. Does that mean that Ukraine should just become part of Russia because to reunify an old country that no longer exists? No, and it’s the same with Taiwan. If Taiwan wants independence, why shouldn’t they be granted that

[@thomasau3204]

@@jasnoon9516 It's not the same, Ukraine was in a Federal Union. Taiwan was a part of China until a civil war, you don't call opposing parties in a civil war as different countries.

[@jasnoon9516]

@@thomasau3204 while I find that a weird distinction to make, especially since Ukraine was forcibly added to the Soviet Union and thus lost their independence until the collapse of the Union, I can still give you an example of two countries emerging from a civil war. Sudan and South Sudan are now two seperate countries as of 2011, after the population of what is now South Sudan felt ignored by the government of Sudan. It lacked infrastructure, schools, hospitals, while northern Sudan with its majority population of Arab peoples did not suffer from. And that’s not to even mention the slavery that disproportionately affected the South Sudanese. 98.83% of South Sudan voted for independence in 2011. War is never great, but there are sometimes good reasons for countries to be formed from within an existing one.

[@thomasau3204]

@@jasnoon9516 You do realized with ur example, it's because there was an agreement that was reached between the two internal parties which resulted in the split of the previous single country. Neither the Korean/Chinese civil war has been concluded as of today. And you are distorting facts, the current Ukrainian sentiment is very anti-russian/soviet. However, Ukrainian Cossacks have always been on the side of the Russians/Soviet since the first Ukrainian People's Republic was formed. Before that, the people identified themselves more as Cossacks or Kievan Rus which are basically russians. Honestly, a quick Wikipedia read would've saved yourself from sprouting half-assed informed nonsense like the Russian's forced Ukraine to join the Soviet Union before.

[@jasnoon9516]

@@thomasau3204 honestly dude you seem really invested in not accepting that maybe it’s ok for a group of people to want to have their own country and not be forced to live in a system of government they don’t like/believe in, especially when there’s a history of human rights issues in the country trying to force reunification. So whatever, live your life I guess

[@roflcopter4388]

The other side of the story is that China doesn't want US bases in Taiwan. Pretty sure if China tried to set up bases in Mexico or Canada the US would take actions as well.

[@s5r581]

What are you mean? They both are USA ally 🤣

[@bessie6448]

Vox and other western media wont allow you to know this. It's media war against China as their whole ANTI-CHINA plan. so ppl will hate China and Chinese more.

[@saulverastegui9147]

@@s5r581 Russia ally

[@ef9208]

The same strategies used to "punish" Australia, Canada, Japan.....

[@arcticital]

imagine using an apple to punish an entire country

[@GeoT91]

Imagine believing that claim.....

[@burtonschrader2]

In the West, when there is a problem in the financial sector the Govt. gives money to the banks and they keep it. Same as helping exporters not farmers.

[@tinaho4779]

Thanks for the videos on Taiwan

[@evl619]

China punished Davie504 by banning Taiwanese pineapple...

[@D_isco_D_ancer]

In Venezuela we call it "Guanabana" and in English its called Soursop. Its so delicious.

[@kitrivers979]

Soursop is often mistaken for custard apple. It is more sour than the custard apple variety.

[@miaowatt3662]

Any links to support the farmers directly/purchase Taiwanese atemoya?

[@ChristianBehnke]

Typo on the chart at 6:41 - it says "top five fruits" but only shows four fruits on the graph. 😉

[@gzanellip]

Why would you trust and depend on your worst enemy to begin with? They can suddenly stab you, just like they did 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Commander_HW]

Worst enemy is the U.S.

[@ratkutti]

Everyone are following the trends set forth by Uncle Ben.

[@hahahehehoho8191]

Custard apple is popular in India, I too personally love it. Send it over to us instead, we'll buy it gladly 😅

[@morbiddawg]

Fruit ninjas everywhere

[@noahokas6520]

Are there any ways we in America could help out Hsieh or Min by purchasing some of there fruit??

[@bYTeHeaD]

China also did that with the Philippines, when they banned the banana export to China. This is when an standoff in Scarborough shoal happened.

[@Bourboelettah]

Taiwan should also restrict sales or increase the price of Silicon products (SoC, CPU, GPU, PCB, Etc.) made from Taiwan. (If Possible)

[@leonzspotg]

mate that’s gonna exponentially increase global electronics prices since most are manufactured in china, you sure that would do anything good?

[@uranusjr]

You cannot ban imports without a “reason” due to trade agreements; right now China is using pests as the excuse (Taiwan has filed a protest to WTO if I remember correctly but you know how those orgs tend to react when it comes to China), but it’s difficult to come up with something similar for silicons. It’s the Achillies heels because there’s really not a good direct counter available.

[@wilmaolandres]

Taiwan is top Manufacturer of ic’s though… taiwan no. 1

[@szaszm_]

It's a double edged sword. You hurt the chinese economy in the short term, but encourage them to build silicon fabs to become independent of Taiwan in the long term.

[@uranusjr]

@Mana And that’s because the US pushed those trade packs to. You see, the problem is the same, and the solution is out of Taiwan’s hands due to lack of international status recognition. It all ties together.

[@NightcorEDM]

Taiwan fruit quality go brrrrr

[@eliny8327]

In Perú we call it Chirimoya. Deliciuos fruit.

[@38josue91]

Es un híbrido entre el Anón y la Chirimoya.

[@PHlophe]

@@38josue91 Chico, where did you find that info.

[@arkarnanhtike1379]

China is also doing the same thing currently to Myanmar but with watermelons and sugar canes; giving Covid as their reasoning.

[@miladjafari9311]

This is the price for freedom, I'm Iranian and I deeply understand how hard is to fight for your rights, I wish you the best for future 🔥❤️