VP9 vs P30 vs P30L

[@ThatVAFranchise]

I just bought my HK VP9 last week and use it as my conceal and carry gun at the moment. I already ran 200 rds through it and I absolutely love it! I'll be picking up that HK 45 compact for my next conceal carry weapon and then that HK 45.

[@followyourdreamsracing3904]

Did you ever get the 45c? someone just ripped me for saying I wanted it as a conceal carry. Said way too big and uncomfortable

[@idraw4me181]

I have a P30 V1 with the Lite LEM trigger, it rocks, I am also getting a VP9 as well, and have every intention of getting the P30L with the Lite LEM as well in the future. Love HK, they are great guns!

[@mikes1172]

Check impact guns, just scored a P30L with LEM for $588

[@mkultra6664]

Cant go wrong with H&K. I've got both P30 and Vp9. Love them both!

[@ottobond007]

A big Thanks I was trying to decide between the P30L & the VP9 and this really helped going with the 30. Thanks Again !!

[@HardHeadMilitary]

ottobond007 heading to pick up one from the store

[@HardHeadMilitary]

How do you like yours

[@Elvis68spec]

Good Video! I'm going to purchase the H&K P30L. Very cool Gun!

[@stick2dapoint88]

You did an excellent job man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@navyman8903]

Happy to do it, thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@blackbullitt6398]

Nice job on the comparison many have been waiting on. I had the P30 V3s. Loved the SA trigger pull, the DA not so much. Not a fan of the safety. However there is a lot to love about the P30 so this was my plan. I sold it. Purchased the VP9 LE, came with tritium sights and 3 mags. My opinion, perfection! Following the purchase of the VP9 I purchased the P30 V1 Lite LEM. Also came with tritium sights and 3 mags. I enjoy both immensely. My fellow shooters ask if I needed help, referring to a councilor for my obvious addiction. Hmm, I have multiple guitars, pool cues, cars and guns. Each serves a different style action in what I do, the way I engage the challenge. I don't use just one putter when playing golf. I need options. Hopefully by Tuesday my new P2000sk will arrive. I'm not a collector and my firearms are not sentenced to life in a safe. Love HK.

[@Beardedwristlocker]

That nutinfancy reference 🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep up all your hard work

[@jerryperry7352]

Really appreciate your video. Very in-depth and pretty opinion free. I own the PPQ in .40 S&W and the VP9 and love them both. I am striving to purchase a P30L next. Keep up the good reviews! Thanks again!

[@2amichaelj]

This guy likes HK more than I do... or maybe he can afford to buy more HKs than I. P30L LE V1, P30SK LE V3, P30SK V1, HK 45 LE V3, VP9 LE, VP9SK LE, and VP9 Tactical LE. I’m looking for a regular size P30, USP Experts, a Mark 23 and other configurations of the same models. I really enjoy HK and I shoot all sorts of manufacturers like Glock, Smith and Wesson, FNH, even Grand Power and Canik but HK is my go to.

[@oliverallen5324]

Michael Young hk holds the standard.

[@Berserkable]

Should have got a P30L over my VP9. I like my VP9 a lot but the P30 just feels like a better built gun. I also don’t care for striker fires. When I got my VP9 I thought they were way cheaper than the p30s. Then I went on buds after I got my VP9 and found them under $700. I think I saw one for $580. I was so pissed. I’ll keep my VP9 and use it as a truck gun and pick up a P30l later on. Right now I need to focus on paying off my HK45CT! So excited!

[@ArmyMatt79]

AWESOME Review!!! It's a really hard decision on whether or not to get the VP9 or the P30L.

[@ALIRStudio87]

great video sir. I have a p30 and I love it. now that the prices for the p30s have dropped by half I'm considering getting the p30L and adding the match weight to it; yes john wick. I love H&K theyre the best.

[@Shankdaddy16]

I have a P30SK I carry and love and I’m considering either a P30 or P30L but I just cannot pick one!

[@navyman8903]

@@Shankdaddy16 the P30L is what i would recommend, but the standard P30 is good to go. The P30L just shoots so flat.

[@Shankdaddy16]

@@navyman8903 My P30 fits the AIWB holster I have for my SK so it may be a good choice. I’ll probably end up with both in the end regardless!

[@diegoconde2728]

I had seen many videos on these guns and must of the reviewers goes with the vp9sk model. I tend to agree even though I’m giving a hard look at the vp30L. Excellent review!!!

[@rulerofall2320]

Great VIDEO! Perfect break down. Great point as well on 1st time shooters. Would love to see H&K make a VP9 compact with a safety for 1st time users as well as for people who love there guns with a safety. That would give the S&W M&P shield a great run for there money due to the cost dropping for a VP9 compact but with the quality that all HK's have.

[@asaaaronlong1369]

Just purchased a new HK P30L 9mm; a beast of a handgun! And just, ordered a new HK VP9 9mm w/ tritium sights. Loving the P30L! Hard to find a good Concealed Carry holster for it though. But, I have to say, I am overly pleased with my P30L and look forward to the arrival of my VP9. HK sure hit it out of the park with these two handguns.

[@oliverallen5324]

Asa Aaron Long look at Harry’s Holsters.

[@Moneyy92]

its jan 12, 2022. im having the same problem. lol

[@gottlicherhammer]

At 17:14 is that finish wear or machining marks in the slide? If machining artifacts, that's very un HK-like. I thought it was interesting so I checked my own P30L. It doesn't have that. I also don't holster it very often.

[@MFAutoloader]

Love my 30L. I've been running 123gr NATO threw it. It hated freedom munitions reman in 124gr. But it shoots all factory 115gr like fed, WWB, TulAmmo just fine. Hard to find mags. Atm.

[@rjo8500]

Good video. I own and like them both. Just wish the VP9 was up to the build quality of the P30. P30 Military/LE vs the people’s pistol VP9.

[@tristanhodgden4286]

Whats not up to par with the vp9? I know that German seals use the vp9

[@rjo8500]

@@tristanhodgden4286 I was unaware German seals carried them. In any case, I sold my VP9 and replaced it with a P30L and have no regrets. I guess I prefer HK’s that are hammer fired...USP, P2K, P30.

[@DyegoPC1995]

About the sloppiness-before-brake in rapidly pulling the P30 trigger - I feel like our faulty VP9 airsoft replica has more or less 'trained' some of us here to get used to the necessity of really pulling the trigger so much in Rapid Succession Fire.

[@zakmichael]

Have an offer for a P30 V3 for my PPQ. It's a tough call but honestly I think that for CCW the P30 is a bit safer. I know what everybody says, keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to destroy something, but under extreme stress you never know. I'm certain that there are many more AD's with a hair trigger like the PPQ. I'm curious how the SA pull is compared to the VP9 or PPQ.

[@TheOl1911]

good vid my friend. I think this will help a lot of people out. I think I told you my buddy (impulsive irrational gun owner LOL) bought the VP9 2mo ago at full retail. Owned it for 4 weeks and traded it away for a P30 (what!?) and then one day at the shop he saw a Colt USMC and just had to have it and right then and there he unholstered, made safe, and traded the P30 for it... no box just the gun and mags...nuts. anyway for some reason he liked the P30 more than the VP9 but he didn't own either model very long so... anyway great comparison vid!

[@navyman8903]

Man, that guy. I mean, the USMC colt is a great gun and all, but camman. I bet he trades that off in a few months. The P30 is still a great gun, and I love it. All 3 have their place in my inventory though. It's hard to pick, but they're all easy to shoot. I hope this helps people that are looking, but watching it again, I didn't drop any bombs or make super clear places for all of them lol. Thanks for watching man, I always appreciate it.

[@GunRunr88]

navyman8903 TMG here....I took my newly acquire P30s to the range yesterday. I immediately regret selling the VP9. I have exactly 100 rounds through the P30, and I know why I didn't care for the first time I got one. :(

[@navyman8903]

Jordan Logan Hey man, I'm sorry to hear about that. The P30 is a gun that you kinda have to grow into, but for some reason it just draws you back. I hated the reset for a while, but as the round count got up there, the trigger got smoother. It still wasn't great in the reset department, but I enjoy shooting it, and can shoot it accurately. I would usually say give it some more trigger time, but after the VP9, I will say it's going to be a very hard transition. I'm sorry it wasn't what you're looking for.

[@GunRunr88]

navyman8903 No worries at all. I think I got a VP9 lined up so all should be good. I agree with you in every aspect. The trigger itself is fine, as in smoothness/pull weight, no problem at all. And I was keeping the rounds in to kill zone one handed at 25 yards. However the reset is just the downfall. I dont think short stroking the trigger is right word, but I wasn't fully letting the trigger reset which really bothered me. I was really hoping it would be similar to the P2000sk but man are they different. I love the P30, it's just not my go to war gun. I took a gamble, and I made the wrong choice :( Live and learn though, and it is still a great gun!

[@IRNinjaPlox]

I can't decide between the vp9 and the P30L!! I held both of them, and I like them both equally!! Why does life have to be so hard lol

[@bmj2k7]

@Nuance Visual yeah I'm leaning towards the p30l also

[@JacksonWalter735]

@Nuance Visual I was just about to say this. I had a P30 at first and loved it. The trigger and the reset could be better, but it's a solid firearm. I got the VP9 last year and loved it when it worked. However, I also kept having problems with it going into battery. Had the slide lock on me once during a failure to eject. Sent it back to HK for repair and it was much better, but I still had issues with it going into battery twice. Some people had issues with the slide release if they're used to riding the slide, but I don't consider that an issue. The VP9 might be a better gun when it works, but the P30 never failed me in 11 years.

[@anthonyreddy2834]

I have the vp9 and a p30sk, I like both but carry the sk only, I like having the hammer option for light primer strikes or whatever 🤷‍♂️

[@overrated121]

Just purchased the hk p30l v1 9mm

[@scottclaiborne5123]

overrated121 Where the hell did you find one?!!! I’ve been looking forever!!!

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Five years later they are about the same price.

[@billdncn]

I am sooo biting my tongue here. P30LS Light LEM FTW

[@SgtSABED]

I'm looking at buying a P30L and already own a P30S V3 with the ambi safety. I see your P30L has a safety so if you had to buy it over again, do you mind having the safety? I'm concerned that with my thumbs forward grip, the P30L slide lever will be in the way of my support thumb. I ride my strong hand thumb on top of the safety lever on my P30 for a fast reference point. Whats your opinion on buying P30L with or without safety? Safety version is cheaper right now....Awesome HK vids, you helped my decision in buying P30.

[@Gmar69]

I'm a Marine, and I gave you a thumbs up!

[@navyman8903]

Thanks Devil.

[@ajfam871]

I just got offered VP9 for my Sig 1911 Nitron railed. In CA with the single shot exemption you SOL with getting anything new anymore. So people are flipping new HKs (45,45c,P30's, VP9s), Glock gen 4s, etec... VP9s are going for $850-$1050. I feel the 1911 is sweet but I feel the VP9 is something extremely hard to get, more functional, and importantly more reliable with all type of ammo. Plus my new HK45 dethroned the Sig 1911 for me anyways. I guess I am picking up the VP9 tomorrow.

[@andrewbrumagen3479]

They are absolutely gorgeous always wanted one when MySpace was a thing I posted a picture of a HK and I'm sorry I don't remember which one. I bought a 92x it's in my ffl now (my first firearm to own)

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

Great comparison video. I went with the VP9 Tactical in the end (and H&K announced the optics ready version the next week lol). I love the nights sights and threaded barrel that came with mine, too bad H&K doesn’t offer them on the P30s. I still want a hammer fired polymer frame gun and my list came down to the P30 and the CZ P07 (the IWI Jericho almost made the cut, but the absence of decocker was a deal breaker). How about the controls? How do you compare them between the P30 and the VP9? Thanks.

[@tonysoprano7777]

Thanks buddy you always help me so much!!

[@navyman8903]

Never a problem. I just try to do what I can. Glad I could help.

[@gobucks45177]

I hope they release the VP45 soon. Great review BTW

[@anthonyreddy2834]

Basically HK 45 as far as grip goes but is hammer fired

[@minnesotanice369]

I'm having a hard debate with myself Mr.Dolphin and need some decision making assistance. If I already have a HK P30L V3 would I be silky to want to buy the HK P30 V3 or would you?

[@MrGschwaller]

Dude, love your comparison video. Everyone should weigh their guns fully loaded and with a weapon light variant. Good job man!

[@FirearmTutorials]

That SA/DA trigger on the P30 is the reason I never bought one. It would be LEM if anything but I just stick with the USP. If you're shooting 147 grain you need to start reloading. Ultra-cheap. I'm doing it for .20 a round.

[@amendable5401]

“Victim advocate” funny.

[@Disirregardless]

Damn you damn you damn you. Since I found this damn channel I bought my second vp9, a p30S and a p2000SK. Today I went and shot the hk45 for the first time....and at 6 yards the first three shots made one ragged hole. Looking into selling a kidney to afford it, the mags, ammo, and holster it deserves. It's been a while since I shot anything in .45 and there's just nothing like it. This is your fault, I hope you can sleep at night

[@maverick_edc4014]

I love my fde Vp9 with the weighted compensator

[@adriannunez8868]

Which one do you prefer? Have pretty small hands. In between the VP9 line and the a FN 509 or CZ P10C

[@andrewd4406]

Awesome vids bro !! Just curious why you dont like the 115 grains

[@deecolon3236]

Not sure what the best way to contact you is but i thought id put this here for you and anyone else who happens to see this. The P30/P30L and VP9 comp that hk sells on they online store front(not hkpartsnet) is on sale for 30$ right now, just thought id mention it, not sure if this is a steal or not.

[@fearnonebutone4977]

So here I am again, posting on an old video… but whatever. I sent my P30 to Teufelshund Tactical to install a Gray Guns short reset, and just got it back. I had not fired it before this. Took it out and put 20 rounds through it using a 20 round mag from HK Parts (factory) of Blazer Brass 115g, and one round didn’t go off about 5 shots in. Tap, rack, and the round fell out, with a strike on the primer that was on the edge, not in the center like the rest. I fired the remaining rounds through without issue. Do you think this is an ammo issue, a magazine issue or a gun issue?

[@navyman8903]

I would say it's a bad primer. Especially if the rest of the mag fired properly. It's been happening with the ammo shortage lately that ammo is coming out with multiple QC issues.

[@fearnonebutone4977]

@@navyman8903 Yeah, I shot 30 more rounds today without issue. Most likely bad ammo, you’re right.

[@mrglock2313]

I want an HK p30 but there are so many different variations I am still confused 🤔. No gun shops in my area have HK guns so I am not able to hold them or choose between guns. GunBroker is the only way I will find one and there are so many different ones. 🤯🔫

[@CenobiteBeldar]

It would be nice if H&K made slim mag pistols like S&W does, but I don't want graphics on my pistols.

[@TheHITMAN2019]

Hi I'm looking to get a P30L V3 with out the safety I just ordered the VP-9 2020 optics ready one today I heard that they still manufacture the P30L's do you know a good source online were I can pick one up at?

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

You should check out my greyguns p30 trigger upgrade video. Pretty sweet what he does to the trigger if you didn't know about it

[@arielbenitez98]

Hey I’ve been looking for a p30l, also in texas! Where the hell did you find em 😂

[@navyman8903]

It was a while ago. But there's spots to keep an eye out for. What part of Texas?

[@arielbenitez98]

@@navyman8903 Dallas, can’t seem to find one just realized it’s a few years ago this was posted. I blame John wick 😅

[@navyman8903]

@@arielbenitez98 honestly the cabelas in Fort Worth is where I found a few Gems. That cabelas is legit. But I know the Dallas to Fort worth drive is rough. That super old gun shop you have in Dallas has options too. The one I met Colion Noir at. I forget what it's called. But they were deep in HKs but this is like 5 or 6 years ago now.

[@arielbenitez98]

@@navyman8903 I just fear some places are probably price gauging because of the recent popularity with the movies but I’ve heard it’s calmed down finally so I might have to pick one up, been looking at either the vp9 or p30l for a while

[@nickledegar4099]

I just bought a vp9 and am looking at a p30L v3 to use as a suppressor host. What are your thoughts. Buy the p30L or try and run one on the vp9? Also do you have any experience with the p2000sk? I've been looking at them for edc.

[@tonysoprano7777]

Great vid man,!!!! been waiting for this one.!!! Love my p30. always been a hammer fire guy. Might pick up the Vp9 because it takes the same mags. or might just go with another p30 maybe l with lem. Thanks again, you should worn people H&K are very ADDICTING!!! Thanks again for you service

[@navyman8903]

Thanks for watching and the support man. The only reason I bought the P30 is it takes P30 mags. I'm happy I did. But I took it out again with the P30 and I love them both. I put more rounds through the VP9 because it isn't at 1,000 yet, but I can honestly say, I still love the P30. The VP9 is an excellent weapon though, I am really starting to love it. Every shot fired is an experience, just like the P30's really. Both are very smooth shooters.

[@Kevinj36541]

These look like they would all fit in a p30L holster. Have you tried?

[@navyman8903]

The P30 will for sure but not the VP9. It's too different.

[@PolizeiPaul]

What does VP stand for? Sorry but the only VP I know of is VolksPolizei (some of my old Ossi pals) I never knew there was a gun called VP, Intresting it's from Hk too, Did Heckler&Koch get bit by the ever growing Ostalgie bug going round?

[@oliverallen5324]

Volkspistole. As said above. “The people’s pistol”. Think Volkswagen.

[@nycupperes]

HK Moved manufacturing to USA and dropped the price by over $300 dollars. They r now about the same price.

[@northwoodspatriot32]

Enjoyed the video, can't wait to get my VP9

[@tonysoprano7777]

which one would be your cary weapon. Thanks for your service and all you do for us.....

[@navyman8903]

It'd be between the P30, and the VP9 honestly. I've carried the P30L, but I shoot the P30 and P30L equally as well. So, I'd default to the more Conceal Carry size friendly, which really isn't dropping too much off the sight radius, and barrel length. Hope this helps. Thanks for the support and for watching, I always appreciate it.

[@adamethridge7824]

The one guy that got the light on was in fact Dale Gribble AKA Rusty Shackleford shesha

[@freewheelcog7206]

Any news on the market availability of the HK P30L in S&W .40?

[@petewick8627]

What is the point of constantly weighing the single bullet and light

[@navyman8903]

Practical total package weight. Gives you the weight of what it would be CCW, or on the night stand, or in a duty holster with a light/plused up.

[@timesplitter88]

Waiting for HK30 Jack Bauer 9mm 24 special edition super deluxe CTU model. ^_^

[@navyman8903]

I can't wait to do that video.

[@Bushmaster85]

DevilDolphin if you could only have 1 HK pistol what model and what caliber would it be?

[@dlsslj]

Great video my friend thanks I always like HK VIDEOS I am a fan I love my p30 also

[@darkknightlight]

John Wick 1 h&k p30l

[@lhokaj]

Great video - thank you

[@navyman8903]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@KeokiDude]

What holster do you use with the P30L and light?

[@oliverallen5324]

Most organizations around the world prefer hammers. That said, the the US Army et al moving to strikers at the tale end of the 20 year “war on terror” will be interesting in field. I can’t think of a large martial unit who uses strikers other than the above. I think for most cases, the vp9 works great. You’ll shoot the striker better.

[@cbwelch4]

Hammer fired guns are a tad more reliable IMO.

[@derekec]

Re the comment dissing his shooting stance, I kind of understand wanting your reviewer to be perfect and so respecting their review more, but in this case I think you are just wanting to "try" and show how much better you are. My uncle was marksman in Korea - he taught me locked elbows. It's personal preference, no right or wrong each with pros and cons.

[@Simply_Ann]

Shoot me now coz i live in CA. I really want that vp9 for HD gun.

[@JacksonWalter735]

On the bright side you live in an amazing state. CA gun laws suck, but almost everything else about it is great.

[@_Thoughtful_Aquarius_]

Five years later....... How are things in California?

[@HanStanwell]

Was that a Shirley Q Liquor reference I heard?

[@jonathanfrost944]

Just got a vp9 on Friday, love it. Really getting into HK. Are you navyman from the HK forum? :) great video, thanks!

[@navyman8903]

Thanks for watching, and yes sir I am, one in the same.

[@hansgruber650]

I plink with 115gr all day with no problem.

[@BigPoppa23]

Good video

[@seano4822]

But at my local store the P30L and VP9 are both $600 what do haha

[@JohnWick-wm4pd]

Sean O'moraine what’s the name of your gun store? Thx

[@anthonyreddy2834]

"It's an illusion!" The light on the 45🤷‍♂️

[@tennisguru6739]

Can these HK guns shoot 9mm NATO 124 Grain FMJ?

[@navyman8903]

Yes, it's recommended by the factory actually.

[@tennisguru6739]

@@navyman8903 Thank you so much! I was worried about it.

[@4512dude]

Are the grip panels swappable from P30 to VP and vice versa?

[@navyman8903]

I haven't tried, but others have and said it was a no go.

[@oliverallen5324]

I shoot a vp9 better than anything I’ve ever seen. First time I picked it up at my local store, 5 rnds @ 7 yards, 3 rounds in the same hole, all bullseyes. It’s an Excalibur if you let it be.

[@TheReptileRick0728]

I keep watching hk videos because I can’t afford my 6th one just yet.

[@jeffmattoxjr.4136]

Good video man

[@morganmartin9286]

P30l or usp 9mm ?

[@zakmichael]

Got a P30 on trade for my PPQ even up. Great deal, I'm very happy with it and the trigger is not bad at all. I'm no trigger snob or range rat. It's a combat pistol and it works great for what it's purposes for. The only problem is finding magazines without bending over.

[@MrFlint62]

When disassembling the P30, try locking the slide back first, then let it ease forward to the take down position. After about 500 rounds with the P30, I find I can shoot fairly tight groups. HK could have had a VP9 like trigger on the P30. They intended it for combat style performance. The VP9 trigger is better only at the range. I paid $39 for extra mags, including shipping.

[@navyman8903]

I've started doing that recently actually with the P30's. It's a good tip, thanks for posting it. I've got over 3,000 rounds through both of the P30's I have, and they are tack drivers. The trigger reset is literally my only serious issue with the P series guns. The VP9 trigger is a solid overall trigger. I am a DA/SA or LEM kind of guy. Just like that hammer performance. Thanks for watching, and the feedback. I appreciate it.

[@wcsdiaries]

@@navyman8903 what's your favorite trigger fir p30 series? I have the DA SA version

[@navyman8903]

@@wcsdiaries DA/SA V3 non safety is my favorite.

[@wcsdiaries]

@@navyman8903 I have 2 of those. How do you practice pulling the trigger back straight? I noticed I pull to the left when I use these triggers. Love my p30sk and L

[@navyman8903]

@@wcsdiaries I would add more or less trigger finger to dial the bias out. Try it a few times each way slow dry fire, and see if it cleans it up.

[@Marks-Law]

Screwtube unsubscribed me again. Keep up the good work. I’m a HK fella too.

[@jamesdepaul3410]

Check your stated length dimensions on p30 and p30L... I just copied them from hk-usa.com right before watching your vid and your figured were different.

[@mikhailmars8979]

If you could only keep the P30 or P30L which stays?

[@navyman8903]

***** That's a tough one honestly. I parted with the P30, then bought another one. I thought I could get by with the P30L and the VP9, but I ended up back with the P30 anyway. If you have both, and absolutely had to pick one, I'd take the one that covers all your bases. You can use the standard P30 for literally everything. CCW, Home Defense, Range, and car gun. The P30L isn't difficult to conceal for a full size handgun, so my over all suggestion is, use the biggest one you can for everything. Because they're both pretty close, if you can get away with using the L for CCW, then I'd definitely do it for the extended sight radius and barrel length. I think they compliment each other well. The P30 is a fine weapon, and the most balanced overall, the P30L is just as good honestly, but a slightly larger package. I hope this helps.

[@mikhailmars8979]

I've only shot the P30 and I thought it was perfectly balanced and soft and flat as hell. But I always read about how the 30L is even moreso. And outside of the trigger, though I really like a LEM trigger, I feel it outshoots the VP9. I've got a 30SK on preorder and am torn on the 30 or 30L to go with it. I can't find a 30L anywhere to shoot though. This is where you're gonna say, "just get em all." Right?

[@d_killer_ghost9251]

Like just cause i like HK products

[@kanaloa38]

great vid!

[@midnightlaundry2800]

Just shot my new P30L in 40 vs my VP40, and the P30 shot softer to me..

[@lahkozy]

Does anyone carry the p30 I want to get one and get the match weight attachment

[@zackjay71]

Hk top notch

[@martinmccloskey2435]

You better call victims assistance because someone is having 9 consensual intercourse with you Oh my gosh I thought I was gonna die laughing

[@bsteiny16]

By the way, if you had a choice between a P226 MK25 vs. a HK45C, both broken in and custom tailored the way you like it, which would you choose and why?

[@navyman8903]

***** That's a tough one man. The HK45c only because I can use it for literally everything, but the P226 is excellent at everything but Concealed Carry. You can conceal it, but it's not going to be as sweet as the HK45c. You can get a Threaded barrel, and 10 rounders for the HK45c to help adapt it for serious use. That's a hard decision though man. They're both solid. In fact, you've picked the two sidearms of the US NAVY SEALS. So....you've narrowed it down quite nicely.

[@bsteiny16]

Yep. Both excellent. I've held a SIG Pro P2340 and its grip is just as wide as a P226. I always thought I had small hands, but I was wrong. I found that I was easily able to wrap my entire hand around it, reach the trigger, and eat some fried chicken. Kidding about the last part, unfortunately. :( Anyway, I love the P30L the most of all mainly because it is more customizable than the 45, has less recoil, 5 more rounds, and is friggin' badass. If only they would put it in a video game. Oh well. I'll settle for buying it when I can afford it in a couple years. I'm about to turn 18, and I really enjoy shooting. :) I just wish I could go to the range more. Whatever. Thanks for the input!

[@blackwaterdevil]

can yoy put a p30l slide on a p30? Just wondering

[@Chris09978]

That I don’t know about but I know the magazines are compatible with each other meaning you can slam a Vp9 magazine into a p30 or p30l no problem in a reliable way

[@MrHawaiiboy510]

Which is better a 9mm or a 40 caliber? And why

[@MinimalistMotoLife]

$600 for a NIB HK? shit, there's XDs that cost more than that.

[@navyman8903]

Yup, I got my VP9 for $625 for the LE package. I'm pretty happy about it. Those deals are out there.

[@stevek8201]

I'm having a hard time picking between the P30 and P30L

[@Nipplehook]

I was too but decided to go with L version.

[@reeceneff3482]

Did you decide?

[@frankovera7553]

@@Nipplehook the l version will be better to shoot, more accurate and less recoil. It's a good choice.

[@eliakimbenishchayil]

LEM is the best

[@anthonyreddy2834]

Is your p30l, a lem?

[@arizonaoutdoorman1907]

124 gr and 147 gr is not a "hotter" ammo than the 115gr btw. 115 have a stouter powder charge and the velocity edge.

[@muffemod]

What does the 30 stand for in P30?

[@navyman8903]

The P30 originally came out as the P3000, the successor to the P2000 line. HK decided to shorten it. Saved money in engraving I guess lol. Plus it sounds cooler IMO.