VR Shoe Build Log #46 - New Steel Tubes, Upper Harness Testing

[@engineeredaf1920]

I’m happy to see how far along its come. Congrats

[@QuarterRican04]

Oh hell yea, I wanna try it with the upper body strap!

[@jeanroger3506]

I'm a big fan of what you are doing here. It's very inspiring. I'm myself working on a "low cost" and easily removable way of walking/running on spot. For the moment, I simply use a rope attached to a hook on my celling and the same kind of harness as you (it's my working harness). It works pretty well, I can walk,run and turn easily. But the 2 main problems are that I can't crouch, and that I find using the harnest quite painfull. These harness are made to be suspented from the front (and also using a seat), not from the back. For now my solution is to reverse the harness, so that the attachement ring is in my back, it's more confortable this way, even though I have to use a pillow. Of course I can't use the leg straps. My idea would be to cut my old harness, reverse and re-sew the leg straps and uper straps so that they are in the good side and would probably help the confort. Don't you find pushing in the harness being painfull? I suppose the fact that your harness is linked to your stucture just next to it , and not to the celling like me, can help the confort For the shoes, for now it works well simply by using big wool socks. I used to be a 3d modeler in the past and I do 3d printngs, but I don't now anything in programming or mechanic. For the controls I was thinking of using the kat loco system Your idea of using pipes is great. Since I discovered your work I'm also thinking of something like that. For your standing problem, maybe if you ad a extension spring, it could help you to bend foreward ?

[@finallyfunctional]

I tried making a rig similar to that, where it's not rigid and consists of the harness and a rope going to the ceiling. This is my video on that setup and why I didn't like it - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqaVf6Ctprx5ic0 There's also a guy on my discord that wants to try to make a non-rigid rig work. This is the harness I'm using - www.amazon.com/dp/B08LGNVZ5K/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1 You can't see it well, but on the back of the bottom part is a metal plate. You can see it better here - www.amazon.com/dp/B08FXHJRZT/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6 So I was able to bolt the harness, using that back plate, to my rig, so I did not have to flip the harness around. Something like this would also probably work - www.amazon.com/dp/B07CWNB1Z3 I've thought about making a harness out of a belt and tactile vest. www.amazon.com/dp/B089XWF6V6 www.amazon.com/Fairwin-Tactical-Military-Heavy-Duty-Quick-Release/dp/B07D2BL4JH/ref=sr_1_7 Maybe using the loops on the back of the vest to attach it to the rig. For the belt I'd maybe wrap a towel or cloth around it to pad it and make it more comfortable. I haven't figured out how to add leg loops if I do this. I don't find pushing against the harness painful at all. Yeah it's probably because of how the harness is coupled directly to my rig at the back of the harness. Mine isn't pulling up on me. In the video I linked to above, the straps pulling up on me was one of the things I didn't like. Kat Loco would probably work, I'm not sure if it supports going backwards other than with a gesture. You could also try Natural Locomotion. In the past I made my own trackers, and I'll make trackers again for this version, but I know how to program. For the crouching problem, where I can't lean forward, yeah a spring might help. If the user falls the spring has to be strong enough to help keep her upright. Maybe a combination of a spring and something stronger for safety. I'm probably not going to experiment with it though, since I just prefer to not use the upper harness and I'm going to be working on making a new rig soon that should eliminate that problem, plus it won't need to bolt to the ceiling or wall.

[@jeanroger3506]

​@@finallyfunctional yesterday I tried an improvment, and I have solved the pain problem, and your it's your system that gave me the idea. I wear the harness the right way, and I use a bar that is linked to the side rings of the harness, also ad a link form the middle back of the harness to the center of the bar, and it's the bar that is linked to the ceiling with a rope. It works pretty well. I still can't crouch (just bend over) but no more pain. Just tried few minutes but it was ok. I feel the bar in my back but it's not too disconfortable Yes I supose a spring + a rope just long enought to the max lenght suited would work. If the person bends to much or falls , the spring would be blocked by the tensed rope

[@RedSlashAce]

Nice thing about conduit is you can use a pipe cutter 🙂

[@RedSlashAce]

And it's cheep!

[@skjonas]

So excited to see an update. Can’t wait for the build tutorial.

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

nice to finally see some full sized steps! im curious, can you just sit in the harness, with your feet off the ground, letting it take all your weight? no reason to do that in game, but it looks like you could try it as a strength test.

[@finallyfunctional]

I found that if I keep my knees slightly bent as I walk I can take larger steps easily. I haven't tried lifting both feet off the ground, but I did do a few tests where I grab the top with my arm and hang from it, so yeah it can hold my weight.

[@a7suko]

looking pretty good! love the stuff you do

[@luischapa6750]

Just an idea I feel like u should incorporate a vest instead of a harness for better movement and stability. Just like the kat walk c

[@SydneyMadueke]

Inspirational

[@EndermanTheMan]

I’d like to build my own set without using natural locomotion and instead using Arduino’s and accelerometers like your active VR shoes and test out some of my own design ideas. I just have no idea how I could program an Arduino to simulate joystick movement to walk in games. Could you point me to the resources you used to learn how to?

[@finallyfunctional]

You can make a driver for Steam VR. I wrote the driver, with a layer that communicates with ESP32s on the shoes over bluetooth serial. This is my tutorial video on Steam VR - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gquoeoJ4o8d2bs0 If you've never programmed before, I recommend you spend some time learning the basics of C++ and Visual Studio before you attempt to make the driver. My same code is here - github.com/finallyfunctional You can find the example steam VR driver repository there, as well as a sample on receiving messages over bluetooth from an ESP32 to Windows.

[@EndermanTheMan]

Thank you so much!

[@vrgamer5045]

前进后退完美，横向移动完全不能，用来玩游戏不合适，游戏太多走位了