VRM Thermals for Xeon E5 2650v2 on Machinist X79 LGA2011 Motherboard

[@BensTechLab]

TL;DR; ✅ This motherboard _can achieve_ all-core turbo boost with this🌡 processor. ℹ VRM cooler can accumulate excess heat under sustained load, case fan a good idea. 🌡 I ran Cinebench 3 times, VRM measured 55°C, 64°C, 70°C after each run.

[@sejdijaavdi2517]

thanks for your reply. the top fan, instead of blowing in, is it an idea to let it blow out all that heat for the vrm? I'm already looking forward to your videos

[@sublime2craig]

@@sejdijaavdi2517 Both will work well and it all matters on your set up in your case and how you have your fans. On my set up I am using the CoolerMaster MasterBox Q300L which has a full perforated body for awesome airflow. I have 2 top exhaust fans and the motherboard sits right up on them so it works great for added airflow and exhausting any heat coming off the VRM heatsink. If I had the space I would put an 80mm fan right on the VRM heatsink itself just to make sure when under heavy work loads or I would do this if your case has bad airflow etc.

[@titanblack63]

@@sublime2craig i have the same case with the same setup of fans. Can i under volt and turbo unlock 2640v3 xeon.

[@kakalv9152]

i do like these machinist motherboards over the other mobo clones. they seem to have little to no issues, great price and make great budget gaming machines. thanks for the video.

[@BensTechLab]

Totally agree! These seem to be quite popular for affordable gaming machines - but also for those people building a server, they run great with ProxMox too!

[@realbadtech9318]

@@BensTechLab hey Ben are you familiar at all with the mini ITX version of this board from Machinist? I just set one up with an E5-2670 v2 and I wonder if there is a BIOS flash available for this board to unlock it for some BLCK overclocking. I do have a fan blowing directly at the VRM. Side note: the mini ITX version board is slightly longer than a regular mini ITX board, I guess to make room for the NVME drive. Which is a big PITA in a small form factor case that only has two GPU slots available, it pushes the PCI-E over by one slot so that I can only fit a single slot card in my case :/

[@jb678901]

I have one HuananZhi X79 deluxe motherboard paired with E5-4627V2 (8C/8T, all core 3.5Ghz), with 32GB (4x8GB) of REEC 1600 DDR3 and a GTX 1080Ti. All powered by Rosewill 650W Bronze PSU. My eldest daughter uses it for graphics designing/drawing, light gaming, and VR. The PC case is a CoolerMaster Masterbox Pro RGB with 3x120mm inlet and 1x120mm exit. I installed one 90mm RGB fan blowing on the VRM heatsink, to ensure the temps remain low with this Chinese MB. I simply glued the top of the fan frame to the bottom of the cases top plate, at an angle to not obstruct the flow of air into the CPU fan cooler. Works like a charm and I have had no issues for over a year with this particular rig. I chose the E5-4627V2 (locked) because it has a relatively high native turbo and therefore, with BIOS fixed multipliers set to 35x across all cores, manages the load very well AND at low temps. I prefer this approach with these Chinese MB's, as paying a premium for an unlocked CPU with an OC to 4.1Ghz may put too much stress on the power delivery. Even though prices have dropped significantly for the E5-1650V2, I prefer the higher core count of the E5-4627V2. Yes, I lose hyper threading but this is a non issue for the use case.

[@BensTechLab]

Sounds like a pretty good build to me! 👍

[@jb678901]

​@@BensTechLab The E5-4627V2 I bought almost 2 years ago...got lucky with an eBay purchase for only $85 at that time. Couldn't find much about that CPU except for the ark.intel data sheet. Nevertheless, I took a chance and it worked out well with the chosen MB. I recall it scores about 950 in CB R15 multi.

[@KarimAkors]

If you have the same Board in the video, that i have to, and you want a better cooling solution because you,and i dont like toasty things (because the hotter something runs means more elektric resisting the less reliability it is) i got a cheap effective cooling solution. i bought some aluminum strips from ebay 2mm thick and placed them squeezed between the fins of the Stock VRM heat sink 24 of them. basically i extend it the VRM mass 4 times and tdp with hit temps are not going higher anymore above 50c. Additional when you like it tight you can use glue, i used tiny bit of fermit (5€) its heat resisted up to 1100c (well i guess little overkill but works)

[@BensTechLab]

Thanks for your tips Karim! That sounds like a good solution to increase the heat sink mass for sure. So far I just used a case fan and it is working quite nicely, test results in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmi9oJZoi7Vlos0 But I will keep your tips in mind if I need more cooling under continuous load.

[@kirkhammett7130]

So ben, how this rig perfomance when you installing vmware / virtualization, can you make video to show us

[@zombieryder]

ive just builid this same setup thanks for the vrm thermal headups tip. Have you manage to make it run with quad channel memory configuration. I have installed 4 sticks of ddr3 1600 but it does not work as quad channel. Any input would be appreciated. thanks

[@titanblack63]

Can you do for machinist rs9 with 2640v3 vrm with turbo unlock

[@maman89]

any info on the lan card ?

[@karlsonkab51]

(I've got my sound disabled right now and will watch on another pc in a few minutes) My new x79 JGINYUE mobo is showing 118C - is that real and if so can a fan or duct directed towards the chipset make it safe ? (There's a fan at the bottom of the Rosewill Prism case blowing straight up to the right side of the video card so the chipset should be getting some cool air -??)) The video card is blocking some airflow right at the X79's heatsink - on top of the mess, the BIOS doesn't seem to remember the boot procedure.AH - so those temperatures are the Voltage regulator pass devices ?? -If so, then maybe I could rotate my cpu cooler 90 degrees

[@BensTechLab]

Some of these aftermarket motherboards will report an incorrect temperature with a 30 degree offset. So 118 maybe 88 degrees which is still a bit hot. I'd give it a go with case fans or diy heatsinks if you can! What processor are you running? A higher TDP than mine?

[@karlsonkab51]

@@BensTechLab Ive got an E5-2680 @2.8GHz. Speccy shows a CPU idle temperature of 21C with an Enermax T40F cooler. TMPINs 5-6 and 8 read 118C. Are those VRM rather than the X79 chipset? If the VRM then perhaps I can squeeze in a little fan. The board is a Jginyue X-79 Plus. We're having an awful time with the Apollo setup utility as it always reverts upon re-start to PATA SM instead of finding the M.2

[@BensTechLab]

@@karlsonkab51 I'm not familiar with your specific motherboard, but I think your processor is 130w TDP vs mine at 95w. So you will have higher power draw on the VRM and yes the VRM will be the primary heatsource aside from the CPU.

[@karlsonkab51]

@@BensTechLab Yep - that extra 50% power drain might be too much for the tiny regulator heatsinks. I can try a small fan but that with a CPU like yours may be the safest bet. Thank you very much for your time and help.

[@karlsonkab51]

@@BensTechLab I think the sensors are way off --at idle I checked the regulator heatsinks with a laser pointer thermometer and a meat thermometer -both were in the high 70s "F" (room around 57F) and ballpark confirmed by a finger. This Rosewill Inwin 101 style case (also marketed as a Sharkoon) is really cool - of course the GPU under load will bake the chipset. The power supply 's intake is right above the VRM heatsink and there's a fan on the floor feeding cool air to and around the GPU past the x79 heatsink. The pc may be good to go. Many thanks.

[@sjbox]

can this board supports 32gbx4 Sticks?

[@BensTechLab]

I don't think so. It is advertised as max 64gb total ram. I have not tried more. I think this is due to size constraint of this smaller motherboard, they could not fit the extra PCB traces to support the full memory capabilities of the E5 processors.

[@sjbox]

@@BensTechLab I have a few 32gb ecc here so im thinking of building one. But im looking for the cheapest board that can support 4x32gb sticks 😄

[@flitz427]

can it run vmware esxi?

[@BensTechLab]

Sure! These used Xeon processors you buy on eBay are usually coming from decommisioned production servers from companies like CloudFlare, Facebook, Amazon, etc. They were all enterprise gear before and when those big companies refresh their servers, the used market gets a load of parts 3-8 years old.

[@BensTechLab]

Despite above comment, I personally am using ProxMox.

[@flitz427]

@@BensTechLab thx

[@lilostich2008]

Hello i want mod Bios for unlocking all core to 3400 and undervolt you can help thanks so mutch Frank from Thailand

[@luisfelipesilvajunior995]

nice video ! is better

[@BensTechLab]

New video coming soon comparing case fan as intake vs exhaust on this VRM!

[@stefano.svs.1970]

Thank you Ben.....extremely good video....simple and accurate,good job!! Ceers!

[@BensTechLab]

Glad you liked it! 👍

[@mamdouh-Tawadros]

Thank you.

[@dennisdickey2267]

I purchased an X79 Chinese mainboard and the E5-2650v2 and added 32gb server ram. runs great. 26C TDP. Never a glitch.

[@BensTechLab]

Glad your Xeon 2650v2/X79 runs well! In my next video I add a case fan and the VRM thermals are very well managed.

[@stephengrenfell9201]

Very useful video, Thanks. I just ordered one of these X79 motherboards from AliExpress. I have a question : Which PICO voltage regulator did you use ?

[@BensTechLab]

Hey I actually used a more premium product from "HDPlex". If you buy it, let them know you saw their product in a BensTechLab KZbin video (maybe I can get a sponsorship one day! Ha, ha). hdplex.com/hdplex-200w-dc-atx-power-supply-16v-24v-wide-range-voltage-input.html

[@lsgoe3717]

Excellent video! I was very hesitant on deciding on a Xeon choice for my machinist board due to the unknown VRM abilities, but you've cleared that up completely! Gonna go for something a bit hotter than the 2650v2, but I think with some decent airflow it shouldn't be too much hotter than your recorded temps.

[@BensTechLab]

👍 Happy building!

[@thewperry]

Thank you algorithm.

[@arnoldcedeno1166]

Thanks for the extensive and deep review on that board, i'm currently thinking on buying 1 , and the way ur review is by far, for me is the best. Thanks for sharing, it helps a lot. New subs here

[@BensTechLab]

Glad this video was helpful!

[@rtsforever]

hello, first, great work here, thnaks 4 that; question, i have same motherboard and CPu, but never goes more than 2.6 ghz, so tb donty works for me, can u tell me whye; again thanks a lot

[@aloraibih]

can i use intel I7 Gen3 processor with this motherboard? and the DDR3 RAM CORSAIRE "CML8GX3M2A1600C9" X2

[@bogdahn689]

very intrestring, thx !

[@dexsters5643]

Would this board be ok to pair witha E5-2680V2 ?? i found a E5-2680v2 for 70 euro and a 1650v2 for 75 currently i have a E5-2620v1

[@BensTechLab]

Theoretically it will work fine! The 2680v2 has a little higher TDP, and so will stress the VRM a little bit more. So you just need to pay more attention to keeping your VRM cool or the motherboard may prematurely fail due to heat or have stability issues. You can use a case fan facing the VRM, a downdraft CPU cooler or add thermal mass to the heatsink (add more aluminum).

[@erwinrifailangi]

nice video man, its so interesting to see exotic unique mobo like this. and the testing too pretty well explained. nice one

[@BensTechLab]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed. And yes I like the uniqueness of the small-ish size MB.

[@charlesh-bey564]

Hello I want to know if that board can run windows 11

[@marcramey9529]

Do you still run this setup? If so, how does it perform these days?

[@alanmoore78]

Maybe toss a link on somewhere for that multimeter with the temperature probe, that's pretty slick, I found one on Amazon for $37 looks about right, so that's a buy link I'd click because I'm about done with the $10 Harbor Freight one I've been using for years. Having a way to check temperatures on computer goodies would make it simpler to diagnose some problems versus playing the "something's broken, time to throw parts at it, should I replace this or that now" game.

[@BensTechLab]

Thanks for the supportive idea Alan! Here's the multi-meter I was using from Amazon that comes with a thermal probe: geni.us/Zup8q (affiliate link)

[@abnahwaz1793]

Who notic the nvme ssd was laghtling in 15:50 to 16:00

[@dahivadaraita868]

Used prime95 to check the wattage once....touched 95 watts but didn't had thw faith in the kllisre x79 motherboard's VRMs so didn't do an overnight stability test but this Machinist one seems better built.

[@englishenglish3920]

Hey bro i have the same setup can i use non ecc adata ram in this build. I tried but failed. It already came with 4*4 gb ecc ram, if i could use my non ecc ram and ecc ram combined i could get 24 gb ram., can i combine ecc and non ecc ram?

[@ivanmaksimovic9219]

Are you using ECC reg server memory, because the description of the motherboard is rather confusing?

[@johnwelander]

Great video thanks! Just picked up a couple of these boards and the heads up about the temps is very useful...

[@marcc5768]

just in case, you might wish to redo your thermal compound application once you put that server into use. The pea size glob technique I find not enough to deal with 95 W + cpu. I usually use the X method when applying thermal paste. It's better coverage than the pea size method. Might also result in potential thermal reading by the sensor and your manual thermal probe.

[@BensTechLab]

I did remove and reapply the thermal paste a few times through a few rebuilds and my pea size seemed to be fine. But it also depends on the brand and viscosity of your thermal paste. I did buy and use Noctua NT-H1 even on cheap chinese ebay coolers because I could buy a larger 10g syringe on amazon for handling rebuilds which will be enough for a bunch of applications (what's a pea size, 1/2 g?).

[@marcc5768]

@@BensTechLab On recommendation from Tech Yes City, I picked up a syringe of GD900 from AliExpress, 15ml tube I think. Just got a bit extra since I plan on doing that Xeon build later this year, and I might have to re-paste a GPU as well.

[@lperezph]

i did peanut method a bit bigger than pea.. It did spread all over. Depends on the cooler.. Not all cooler has same mounting pressure

[@bence.gabor.slezak]

@@marcc5768 as long as there is enough to cover the whole cpu, the technique makes no difference. For example Der8auer uses a small spatula to spread the paster and it works.

[@sublime2craig]

Great vid and info! Just got my Chinese x79 Jingsha Model x79-S 3.0 and I paired it with the 10 core 2660 v2. Was worried about the VRM temps after reading some posts on Reddit about the possibility of overheating the VRMs when running higher TDP chips or overclocking chips like the 1650 v2 etc, but after watching this I can rest easy with my 2660 v2. These boards are great for home server builds, budget workstation and for a budget 6-8 core gaming rig paired with an RX 480 or 1050-1050ti

[@BensTechLab]

Cheaper VRMs can run a bit hotter, but its amazing how much a little air flow can do!! Enjoy your new build!

[@sublime2craig]

@@BensTechLab hey do you have any exp with the Xeon 1620v1? Is this chip unlocked like the 1650? Just got one on eBay for only $12 and that's cheap for i7 3820 performance!

[@tak5886]

@@sublime2craig ive had my 1620v1 overlocked to 4.2ghz all core on the x79t atermiter for a year with no fan on the vrm heatsink and it works fine

[@stevestewart3816]

@@tak5886 i just picked up a hp workstation 420 with a 1620 im not sure the version though. im wondering what would be the best mobo and ram combination for gaming

[@tak5886]

@@stevestewart3816 if it's the 1620v1 it is unlocked and u can all core overclock to 4.2ghz on the atermiter board and u can go even higher than that on the Asus p9pro board

[@batz6556]

How much power does this server pull?

[@BabyGreedTheHedgehog_MegaLifeF]

were put the tpm But you don't got a TPm for 11

[@kariverson1]

O have the same CPUs on a dual 2011 huananzi MB. Same Bios. I was wondering why I wasn't getting full turbo. Man the VRMs are hot and sensors indicate motherboard temps up to 127 degrees Celsius. It has to be a mistake.

[@BensTechLab]

Some of the chinese brand MBs have a temperature offset. So when reporting 127 it may actually be 30 lower. That said 97 is still going to kill your MB unusually fast. I suggest improving it a bit so your MB lasts more than 6 months!

[@diegopereira1779]

eu quero comprar ! e Bom? para jogos

[@TheDjFrama]

why does the turbo boost stop at 2.99 and no 3.40?

[@BensTechLab]

I am not sure what you are referring to exactly. But, keep in mind the turbo boost is dependent on how many CPU cores are active. For example 1 core load will turbo boost to max, 2 core will boost a little less, 4 core less, etc. Most CPUs have a "Single Core Turbo Boost" spec and then a separate "All Core Turbo Boost" spec which won't be as high.

[@txcyclist999]

Thanks Ben. I just purchased that motherboard and getting ready to do my build. Any pointers?

[@BensTechLab]

Biggest one is just to help cool that VRM if you can. Covered my experience with a case fan in my latest video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmi9oJZoi7Vlos0 and that I have all fans on the CPU fan headers as that is the only one that supports smart fan speed control.

[@sejdijaavdi2517]

Nice vid ben! I'm gonna build the same motherboard and cpu for gaming. Im gonna put 2 front fans,1 above the vrm and 1 in the back. What is the best airflow? Cause the vrm getting pretty hot. Thx mate

[@BensTechLab]

Your idea for case fan placement sounds good to me! I just ordered my case yesterday and will test the case fan placement myself when I get it. Stay tuned for a video once my case arrives!

[@marcc5768]

I'd be concerned about the VRM temps too, Just get a decent downdraft air cooler instead of a front to back or up/down cooling solution. Like a Be Quier! Shadow rock LP/Shadow Rock TF 2 or Noctua NH-L12S or Noctua NH-L9x65.

[@BangThoyib2]

Hi Ben, very nice video, no non sense whatsoever, I don't usually like 20+ mins videos but yours are exceptions, keep up the good work! I'm a bit curious, does this motherboard support quad channel RAM? Cause I've seen other Chinese X79 motherboards do (from TECH YES CITY channel )and some don't

[@BensTechLab]

Thanks! Fyi, this motherboard does not support quad channel memory, it will be run in dual channel mode. I believe some compromises are made to keep the board smaller and cheaper.

[@BangThoyib2]

@@BensTechLab I thougt so too, one more thing, how about the motherboard drivers? Do you need them to run it properly on windows 7 or 10?

[@BangThoyib2]

@@BensTechLab And how about the maximum RAM it can have? 32GB or 64GB? Sorry if I was asking too many question, cause I'm planning on building a system based on this motherboard

[@BensTechLab]

@@BangThoyib2 I have 64gb DDR3 ECC 1866Mhz installed on mine. Running windows 10 almost all the drivers just come from windows update. One driver doesn't load automatically and you may need to run intel chipset driver installer. I may do a quick video on this intel chipset driver, so make sure you are subscribed if interested.

[@BangThoyib2]

@@BensTechLab That 64gb is 16x4 setup? I subscribed on my first view of your vid heheh, I can't wait for your video about those drivers, I hope they work on win7 as well, cause I'm still using it to this day :D

[@kamuiatmyrealm]

hi.. got a curious question i got one of those x79 mobos.. tested it.. and i got abnormal readings on my mobo/chipset temps CPU was normal, GPU and drives were normal, but the chipset/mobo reading was around 115celcius i used hwinfo, hwmonitor, aida64 and speccy for the temp readings got any encounters like this before? thanks

[@BensTechLab]

Some of these chinese motherboards will report incorrect temperatures with +30C. However, I found this Machinist X79G v1.3 version did not over report - however it was hot. In another video on my channel I test a case fan blowing down on VRM with very good results.

[@kamuiatmyrealm]

@@BensTechLab what i got here is x79g v2.0.. when i got fans on the vrm and chipset heatsinks, they were cool to the touch.. but the readings still stayed up high.

[@marcc5768]

The make and version of the Mobo maker makes a difference in quality of the components used. Tech Yes City, Craft Computing and Philscomputerlab do a good job with giving you an idea what of the chinese made x79 or x99 mobos to consider with Xeon use. From what I have seen Atermiter and Machinist are good..be careful with Huanan brand. Huananzhi is also good, according to Bryan from Tech Yes City. Also, if you are in doubt with the vrm temps on the mobo you are using..use a downdraft air cooler solution instead of front to back or up and down. I'm considering an AliExpress Atermiter x79 bundle with e5-2650 v2 w/16 or 32 gb of ddr3 ecc registered. For a Linux Mint build for daily driver along with VM testing of linux distros in mind.