VW e Golf heat pump rant

VW e Golf heat pump rant

[@pauljpr]

Not just the auctions houses, AutoTrader needs to update the specs to deal with electric cars to include charging speeds and official range at the very least.

[@markgaudie80]

Heat pump should be standard on these cars. Big mistake VW.

[@tycorp1971]

Please turn your autofocus and autobalance off please. It's distracting.

[@Timstravels01]

My evening is complete, an eco-cars rant.

[@xchopp]

I'm sitting in a 2016 e-Golf SE (the affordable, stripped-down version) that doesn't have a heat pump. It really doesn't matter much. The heated seats are fantastic. The resistive heater doesn't need to be on often, except in winter. I noticed that the car needs to be in "Ready" drive mode to work: even if the display and lights tell you it's on, it doesn't operate unless it's in driving mode.

[@leesprout5820]

Thanks for helping to clear this up a bit!

[@RWBHere]

Thanks Jonathan. Absolutely right; it should not be difficult to ascertain basic information about a car, whether pre-owned or new. Charging capabilities and heating methods are about as basic as you can get, alongside fundamentals such as battery size, motor power, warranty, etc. Never mind about the more frivolous things, such as Bluetooth, cup holders and the like.

[@benhcouk]

Still valid today. Im searching for an e-golf with the heat pump and no dealership has any idea.

[@markgaudie80]

Base Model New 50kwh ZOE should have CCS standard too. Shocking decision not to fit it on base model.

[@mconnah1]

Well done! I am having exactly the same problem...

[@backwoodsbungalow9674]

I enjoy a good rant with my tea and biscuit. For buying at auction, it might be to your advantage to just ask for photos of charge port & under bonnet without disclosing what makes a car more valuable. 😎

[@JonathanPorterfield]

To be honest, all auction houses need to get up to speed on evs , they are getting better , but changing their mind sets is an uphill struggle.

[@SteveJulien]

Thanks! Great info and yes, the e-Golf is an epic little EV

[@JuelzGawdy]

Everyone knows EGolf SEL Premium has a heat pump and DC fast charging, and The EGolf SE has no heat pump that's why it's not listed. That's what your paying for with the Premium model 👌 the heat pump increases the range of the EGolf by 30%. In the cold with a 2019 SE no heat pump model you could get 87 miles and with an SEL Premium with a heat pump in the cold you get 112 miles range with the same trip. You only have to confirm the fast DC charging on the SE model because the DC fast charging comes standard on all SEL Premium models. That's why you pay more for the Premium for better heating and 30% longer range battery life due to the three times more efficient heat pump that comes standard on all SEL Premium models.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

The spec for uk market was not this clear cut , are you talking about LHD e golf ?

[@JuelzGawdy]

@@JonathanPorterfield it was not clear for me either I almost bought an SE model and then found the story everyone was talking about with the heat pump adding 30% more range. I'm only talking about the full electric Sel premium.

[@charlesholland-keen2222]

Not really a rant at all. Just very informative and useful. Leicester folk are like that.

[@ram64man]

It’s like the Id.3 for reference it’s also not standard kit and not on the launch edition 1 60 kw the difference can be a minimum of 8% different in energy usage in winter

[@mollyfilms]

Had an e-golf for 2 years, no heat pump and this was the main reason I sold it. Great in the summer but really really bad in the winter. Not even VW understood how to service this car. EThey don’t call it a service only an inspection as there is not much to look at. They try to over charge you so be aware. No ordinary used car sales understand EV’s, I can list you loads of issues that you will come across. Welcome to the world of EV’s!! Would never go back to petrol or diesel though!

[@dlittlester]

I run into this all the time. Seems the old car companies that are now offering some electric vehicles either haven't trained staff, or at least at the dealer level. It's like I, a guy off the street, know more about them than they do.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yes this is all too common , dealers need staff WHO DRIVE EVS and who fully understand the ev product !

[@Kiltoonie]

You seem remarkably calm, under the circumstances, Mr Porterfield ;-)

[@zenbudhism]

Driving an ev makes you calm 😃

[@stephenclay6852]

Hi I think it was a £900 cost option witch I think it should be standard it is on our 2020 Kia e Niro

[@gordonmcmillan883]

Right. Feel better now? 8-)

[@sirmaffia67]

I have found a good E golf for a good price without in the Netherlands. Is it very bad and not good to take the golf without the heatpump?

[@midgetShootingGunsAK]

Can you add it on and if so how much extra???

[@conmurphy1946]

How can you tell if a bmw i3 has a heat pump? Is there the same difference in the motor bay if the covers are removed?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

The bmw VIN checker , decoder, will state ' aux heating ' where fitted

[@conmurphy1946]

Is there a visual way to check?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

No

[@conmurphy1946]

Thanks

[@rosmurphy476]

I'm thinking of getting a skoda enyaq 58kw and the head pump is an extra €1200. Do you think is it worth it?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yes , and when you come to sell on , buyers WILL ask if it has a heat pump !

[@rosmurphy476]

Thanks good to know, nice if it wasn't an extra..

[@KJSvitko]

Educating auction houses and even new /used car dealers about electric vehicles is necessary. Maybe do a video of what pictures / information you would like to see on an EV for sale and send it to them. Give them an easy example to follow or possibly produce a template / checklist and email them.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yup , ive been telling them for years , check out a vidro i did 2 years ago !

[@roybm3124]

Björn Nyland tested the e-golf on 1000 km trip last weekend, slowest car he tested. 15:50 hours @ 63 km/h. Also better to use seat heating and less interior heating. Active battery cooling is a real miss on this car.

[@harrylundstrom1887]

vw pr code 9M3 is with heat pump and 9M0 without. I don't know if there is a free vin decoder that can list all pr codes, but anyone who has access to vw parts catalogue (etos/etka or even partslink24) can see the pr codes for a specific vin.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

That's a great tip , thank you 👍👏

[@JohnDoeeeee118]

@@JonathanPorterfield did u, as a car salesman, not know that all codes are stored in the manufacturer system and u can just give a call to ur local brand dealer which should be able to read out over the phone if the car has any extra options added? I'm literally amazed.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

@@JohnDoeeeee118 tried this several times with differant vw dealers ,they all gave differant answers !

[@michaelgoode9555]

How easy is it to tell if an ID.3 has a heat pump or not?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Haha , no idea 🤣 other than looking under the front of the ID3 and looking for the heat pump .

[@neilbrandon]

Does the model 3 have a heat pump?

[@finarony]

i cant believe he actually had to lift the bonnet up

[@rayallen6555]

Hi can you retrofit a heat pump on the 2018 e golf.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yes , but very very costly , wouldn't be worth it !

[@nielsencs]

Dumb question. What's a heat pump?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Like a air sourse heater, very efficient and very fast in giving heat , the resistor heater takes longer to heat a water system and pump it through a matrix behind the dash, and take more power over a heat pump

[@backwoodsbungalow9674]

Good question; heat pump is the device used in a fridge or air conditioner. In an EV, a heat pump uses less electricity than a simple resistance heater, in mild weather.

[@4yourgarden]

How much did that e golf go for

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Its still avaible at £21500 , plus our £360 fee plus transport costs.

[@edwyncorteen1527]

@@JonathanPorterfield Having owned a Leaf for nearly three years, no heat pump = no sale! I am still astonished that the ENV200 van is still not supplied with one! I remember your video of the ex GPO? vans that had been fitted with a diesel powered cabin heater!

[@JonathanPorterfield]

@@edwyncorteen1527 ex British Gas vans the blue eNV200 , wow that was a toasty hot van !

[@Mark-bl3wg]

Hello an you take 2 new pictures from the same angle so it's easy to see if it has or hasn't got a heat pump please

[@JonathanPorterfield]

It's clear in the video isnt it ??

[@Mark-bl3wg]

Not really no

[@steveboston11]

A very justifiable rant. My 2018 e-up has one - and as my first EV, (and first aircon) I wanted to know about them and how much power they consume/how they work etc. Like everything these days its near impossible to get information like that. I bought the VW workshop manual for it which is stuffed full of elfin-safety warnings and information about the non-EV variants as well as other VW cars!! but stuffed empty of useful info and nothing about the aircon/heat pump. It is otherwise a great little car with a real-world average range over 2 years of 95 miles. In summer 5.5 to 6 miles/Kw is often possible and that is with hills, mixed road types and not being slow. But I do warm it while plugged in in winter and avoid long heating use. In summer I open windows instead of using chill from aircon.

[@marcusmascord6079]

In most countries apparently the ID.3 will not come with a heat pump.

[@AlanCooney]

Eee bye gum lad. Sorry I'm only a common northerner - wear a flat cap, and eat Pies! - would never be able to afford a posh boy "E" anything - although I do drive a "normal" petrol golf with a "real" 4 cylinder engine!!! But can you please tell us Common Folk what the hell is a Heat Pump???

[@nigelweir3852]

Just came across a vw e golf with asshole installed , left charging in 22ac charge point blocking it as car full and only one point working , another vw asshole

[@michaelsimpkins5178]

Don't buy German

[@davidpye2374]

I understand that Tesla's don't have heat pumps!!

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Correct , but huge batteries means they dont need the heat pumps

[@eivindhelle3985]

@@JonathanPorterfield I have owned two e-golfs. One with 24 kWh without heatpump and the new 36 kWh with heatpump. And my opinion is that the heatpump is more important for the 36 kWh version, since the difference in range is bigger. In the case of Tesla the heat pump is less important since the car is bigger and have a lot higher energy consumption anyway. So the extra energy consumed by the heater makes less difference to the range.