VYSE Mythbusting | Interactions with Agents & Game Mechanics

[@colorfulcookie8961]

ngl, at first I thought Vyse's Shear is a really thin metal wall that function as a wall of course, but also cut anyone stand directly on it

[@grand9200]

using a chamber ult into a vyse ult would be such a play

[@rimuruko7398]

Chamber: u disable my gun but not my ultimate *Kay/o ult Chamber: ...

[@瑋銓李]

iso: I am just fine

[@cardu_]

ain’t nobody picking chamber tho

[@erebosbossbossboss9679]

​@@cardu_many people pick chamber?

[@cardu_]

@@erebosbossbossboss9679 not in pro play at all, but sure ranked even then it’s an occasional interaction that barely does much

[@amr3del]

What a coincidence, I was just searching for this video to see it recently uploaded

[@heetsoneji3694]

same

[@CalvinGhasemi]

same

[@Terncez]

those reyna dismiss activate the wall

[@Skipwayy]

i think no but im not sure because you can go through deadlock wall with dismiss

[@VikramThakur-bi3ly]

Na i didn't​@@Skipwayy

[@Skipwayy]

@@VikramThakur-bi3ly what

[@williammjau]

@@Skipwayyit doesnti

[@Methos_]

No, it's a solid object like Sage's wall

[@AymuM]

I love how Iso ult can counter Vyse's ult. Feels super anime. Like a counter domain expansion

[@Tobito_n0]

Simple domain

[@ItBeValo]

What would the domain be called

[@Tobito_n0]

@@ItBeValo use no guns

[@Catsarethecutest13]

Bruh these cartoon watchers everywhere

[@ItBeValo]

@@Catsarethecutest13 yeah we watch anime? Is there a problem?

[@YungSover]

the razorvines def gonna need a buff, barely any damage, barely any slow and you can strafe in them and they can get destroyed

[@WinterFalls-j2q]

shes got 2 charges and they're only 150 creds, seems they're more for info and defense

[@minhkhanghoango4793]

​@@WinterFalls-j2qnuh uh the sound plays only when its activated not all the time so yeah its actually bad

[@eve_gang_rep]

@@WinterFalls-j2q what info

[@ashkiin8493]

When an enemy moves inside them you can hear a distinct sound. So yes, mostly Def and info

[@ichorex1612]

they could give it a bit more slow but not like sage's orb level of slow... gotta remember that positioning in valo is pretty crucial and util can easily be combined for better impact imagine her trap combined with a molly where youre forced to move and take free dmg, thats -24 hp just like that so you get an advantage in a gun fight plus who exactly is gonna stay still or strafe their way out of the trap when youre being flashed or rushed on?

[@quickfingers7062]

I think if you omen ult away before the Vyse ult gets you and then you cancel it at the right time, you can prob dodge the Vyse ult and still use your primary weapon.

[@PanPan-ml1ip]

Yes, exactly like cancel tp while enemy kj ult is active

[@propeller187]

Omen kinda did this in agent trailer lol (not exactly, he just ulted there after her ult but kinda)

[@Stardust-g7g]

Finally omen ult has a use

[@ZinqQuill10]

@@Stardust-g7gomen ult isn’t that bad

[@THE_THREE_GOATS]

@@Stardust-g7gTf did u just say bro I always get kills with omens ult

[@Proxi-mane]

Being able to strafe in razorvine is pretty nerfed ngl but overall her kit is cool

[@answering248]

Yeah that kinda blows to be honest for 1v1s not really something to worry about, the sound queue is nice tho if they do move

[@Proxi-mane]

@@answering248 Yeah, I kinda wanted it like deadlocks grenade where it forces you to crouch instead incase of Vyse it forces you to stay still and being able to freely crouch randomly can also outplay the enemy Vyse

[@HungrySeal31]

​@@Proxi-mane At the very least a slow similar to Sage's while having small DoT is what I expected. Allowing the enemy to strafe make the ability useless unless it gave info like Chamber trip.

[@safe4547]

One way to have a workaround this is... Sure, let's say you can still strafe and not be super slowed like sage orb or Deadlock nade BUT, the damage is dependent on how fast you're traversing the field. Running, knife out = dead even before you get out of the field. Running, gun out = Barely any health left (20HP) after you get out of the field. Shift walking/crouch walk = Around half HP by the time you get out of the field. They can write the code for the damage dealt by the distance traveled in a second. And they can also adjust the duration of the field with these new changes if they want to.

[@sotblom]

@@safe4547I really like that idea! Sounds sick!

[@alisina1566]

Thank you, finally a full experimental video.

[@Mephora]

Being able to jiggle without taking damage makes her vines a lot less useful to clear areas

[@tyroneTy2024]

Vyse is a Sentinal. And her Vines are ment to to stall enemies from coming into sites. She's not an initiator that has abilities ment to clear areas.

[@SinSaving]

Top tier content! Exactly what I was looking for!

[@iXasper]

What happens if you put your wall on the planted spike??? And what if you plant in the walls range

[@nabieladrian]

I'm curious if the wall breaks if it's on top of the spike like Sage's, but otherwise sounds dumb to give enemy a wall to defuse.

[@vuanhuc3582]

​@@nabieladrian certain plant spot are spammable so locking them in there and start spamming is a good tactic i guess

[@levi3933]

I think the intention is to put it so that shear's line is directly on the spike, so the enemy that comes to defuse, activates shear and makes spike inaccessible for 7 seconds

[@Morbpious]

Can't activate it yourself so you'd only be protecting enemies

[@safe4547]

@@nabieladrian you forgot about molly line ups. And there are majority of players who can easily shoot their mollies inside those enclosure. Gekko, Brim, KJ molly can bleed through that wall too.

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

thanks this is a very good video, a lot of the wall interactions and just the general visibility of utility had me wondering

[@ImpossiblyPyro-pigeon]

dang, when I first saw your channel you where at 17k, time flies and you're already almost at 100k

[@user-lc7fo7hq6c]

wow I really adore the new knife until I saw the 3rd person view. 0:01

[@justanotheryoutubechannel386]

It’s still in beta, and all that rly matters is ur view for the knife anyways

[@achillesgabales2279]

​@@justanotheryoutubechannel386 it's too big it kinda makes some hiding spots irrelevant, maybe...

[@skyfeelan]

Nope, I think that knife, if left unchanged, might ve visible when you're hiding in a corner​@@justanotheryoutubechannel386

[@user-lc7fo7hq6c]

it matters to me tho. I dont want to be that noticeable as possible. but if they change it into dagger instead it'll be marvelous

[@sarthakrathi6650]

​@@user-lc7fo7hq6cWhy do u care about being noticeable your enemies can't see it😭😭

[@darainbeats5491]

can omen tp on top of it?, can Jett,raze,chamber go on top of the wall? Can you place a viper orb on top of it?, can you smoke on top of it (one way), can you place things on it such as a chamber trip, can you use vyse flash thru the sheer wall?, can you layer cypher trip and sheer wall in same spot?,

[@Bot-cc8ws]

Are you stupid? clearly if you can walk on it you can do those things

[@waterbucket4358]

​@@dexter_548no chamber cant place a tp or trip on a sage wall so same thing here

[@cyanlight7]

Jett, raze and omen can get on top of the wall. Chamber cannot tp or trip on top of it. Cannot one way smoke on the wall and viper orb bounces off if you put it on top, the ground near is fine

[@prod.bykris]

the flash on bind, b site long on top of the panels where cypher cam usually goes is actually a good one. chill in garden, wait for footsteps coming up b long, pop flash and peek. especially since there's no animation to pop the flash, makes it so easy.

[@vuanhuc3582]

It still have animation similar to breach flash

[@prod.bykris]

@@vuanhuc3582 Not everyone is turning away from her flash and then flicking back perfectly to garden entrance to aim at the already guns up and shooting Vyse 😂

[@FD-kt1rz]

@@prod.bykris its not high enough to flash the guys up close, that was what i noticed in the video. It will be blocked by the wall. Gekko flashes work there because they go up way higher

[@BerserkerValo]

if its a solo vyse it probably gets spammed though but it would be good if they were contacting

[@Iatemyroof]

vyse's ult bout to be so op in spike rush

[@zlubayo2729]

Damn i thought the wall is like a blade

[@VardhanShrivastava]

You following the clone was somehow lowkey hilarious. Like, "the audacity of this beach* 😂

[@c_xn]

my questions have been answered, thank you

[@ductusfructus]

About Vyse's Shear: when you tried to break her util with shock dart, you did not hit the wall with shock dart right in a spot where it's being placed to. I know it might look similar for some of the players but I assume there could be the same mechanics as with Cypher trap. You can't break this ability by shockdarting the middle of it - you need to destroy the core, the certain surface that this ability is being sticked to. The core of Vyse shier is the wall, not the floor. So in order to check if it's breakable, you need to hit the wall, not the floor.

[@distorted_bunny]

the wall is indestructible

[@ductusfructus]

@@distorted_bunny thank you for checking this information for me. Appreciate it 🤝

[@ptfilete]

I mean the test you did to see if you can boost yourself on the wall could’ve been done one more time where you put the wall next to another wall/object and see if when it tried to push you, since there is a wall you would instead just go up

[@joaopedrosg1993]

What is the ultimate's voice line for the enemy Vyse?

[@Bostaff]

Adapt or die

[@blueberry_gamer9046]

Adapt OR DIE! Is the ultimate voice line

[@Youjvwhw]

@@blueberry_gamer9046 i thought it was redact or die lol

[@joaopedrosg1993]

Thanks!!

[@matthewkid8037]

Shes going to end up like deadlock, I can feel it

[@sathwik_reddy_1950]

I don't the think so because the util are good ult is good too dl's ult was just useless when teammates are there

[@sakshamjain-x7d]

Nah deadlock and her are kinda the same as we can't watch our flank with both of them both have wall ones breakable and see throughable other is non breakable and non see throughable ones grenade slows you and make you crouch others and give sound cue if they try to remove it on the other hand razervines slow you and give you damage and sound cue only if we move and the ultimate deadlock 's is missed by lot of players especially in low elo including me and when enemy team is there it is kinda useless and vyce's ult is a little bit good tho people could still start running and might even be able to escape it has it has some winding up time and if you ran even before people's gun have jammed they might just end up killing you and it will all be a waste but if timed right and I right situation both of the ults can be good especially in 1vs1 or 1vs2s for vyce

[@makimakimakimakimakimaki]

@@sakshamjain-x7d when the wall activates it gives a notification so she can be used for flank watch as well its undestroyable and cant be smoked off

[@sakshamjain-x7d]

@@makimakimakimakimakimaki yeah atleast one part of flank can be watched unlike deadlock only is the flanker is brainless only then he will trigger the deadlock sensors

[@koryoo301]

@@sathwik_reddy_1950 cypher / kj is good on ATT coz traps and you know if theres a flank + on deff, they offer you info. Her skills ofers noone of that, same as deadlock, Shes MAYBE gonna be played on some maps, like split/ascent as a flex, but dont think so.

[@njstudent155]

Vines are a lot better than I think people give it credit for. Vines cost 150, make it REALLY hard to peek safely (due to info/damage), linger for a long time, need 2 shots to break which make it hard to break a reactionary vine throw, and going from 1 side to the other makes players 1 tappable from outlaw body shots if they use heavy armor. It's a GOOD ability

[@EnzoVAL]

Super clean video good job!

[@please-wake-up-now]

Wow, I love how you broke down all the interactions! Honestly, Vyse feels like the perfect mix of utility and surprise. Can't wait to see all the creative plays with her ult! 🎮✨

[@blueberyjuice8242]

Honestly, I think they should make Vyse’s wall a bit less visible. Maybe just the line on the ground and not the little haze above it

[@youcancallmelove]

Thanks for the video !

[@escorpianoyqueee]

I can hear the hate a million kilometers away with this new wall, letting one player in one side, and the team which is not attacking together just letting team mate die alone... oh wait. Tha'ts actually what currently happens without the wall XD

[@SuldSin]

How people not understand you can’t use primary like jett knives or chamber guns aren’t primary weapons

[@rajaryanigdncxhadk4090]

Amazing detailed tutorial, thanks 🙏

[@ARZZ0221]

Vyse: F*CK YO GUN Iso: Nice, ANYWAYS

[@markstein9773]

Chamber: Call an ambulance, but not for me. Vyse & KAY/O: **chuckles* we're in danger.*

[@EMvolts154]

Kay / O : You Are Powerless! Unless chamber got good skills

[@plankolyl]

that's op nerf chamber. Nice video, thank you for all the helpful information!

[@philledzone]

Can we please talk about how huge the scythe is in 3rd person?!

[@faevry8076]

i just wanna know her voiceline for getting sage ressed :c

[@Jtowchi]

If you die does shear still work

[@Ulfwastaken]

There are actually some situations where you can get boosted by the wall. It seems to be where the wall's push is being negated by something. It happened to me when the wall was triggered during a breach ult. Obviously that's pretty tough to take advantage of but I wonder if there are some other cases like dashes

[@_Dipstick_]

I know I'm gonna hate that wall

[@westonelias3384]

why is the knife soo big😭😭😭 00:43

[@ImFeelinXtra]

If you inspect it turns into a dagger, which is a nice edition

[@Penguinizerrr]

Its gunna give away ur location 😭

[@bernardobelisariooliveira9173]

No it doesn't because its just a inspect interaction ​@Penguinizerrr

[@verxyt8546]

It’s pretty averag

[@TheAutumnSkye]

the one thing I don't like about this chacter is how obvious the wall is, the point of it is to be a trap

[@vuanhuc3582]

Its a trade off for being unbreakable, the only thing you can do to counter it is jump spot but at the very least vyse still get 7s of delay regardless

[@someone-ui6jo]

nah bro if it’s hidden it’s gonna be broken asf

[@gavinsilva3919]

Honestly the mollies are worse since theres so little damage and you could just sit without getting flushed out

[@maxdekudess3354]

​@@gavinsilva3919and they can be broken too. Ig their only purpose is being combo-ed with other abilities

[@na3rial]

It's a trap that you can't disable without activating it. Seems fair enough to me.

[@andanh274]

imagin in 1:30 u bait the wall but enemy deadlock thowr her cage in the other entrance basicly u dead

[@rido5151]

But it is weird that Vyse and Deadlock in the same lineup😅

[@snapbacktoreality_1]

Bro is it just me or does Vyse have a voice similar to Viper? Their names also start with a V, and they both seem to have a history with omen, and both of them have some toxic gas coming out of their masks Viper's sister?? idk man

[@fearme7184]

The big scythe actually reminds of the pixel gun scythe so much

[@buzzdoesnotbuzz3330]

her utility is pretty strong and useful but i feel like that theres so many ways that her utility can be countered like that wall and ult that it might not be as useful or good at stopping entries as youd think. and i do think that ability to jiggle in the thorns kinda defeats half of its purpose that should def be fixed, but i think the aoe and cost for the damage and info is def useful

[@na3rial]

1) What happens if you put util on top of a formed Vyse wall (KJ turret/nades, Chamber tp, Viper orb, smoke one ways, etc)? What happens to the util when the wall disappears? 2) Does Reyna/Clove dismiss trigger the wall? 3) Can you Breach flash through her wall? 4) Can you util out of the tangle vines (Sage wall, Omen shadow step/tp, Jett dash, Raze satchel, etc) without taking damage? 5) If you Sage wall boost on top of an unactivated Vyse wall, does it still activate+knock you off (like they're perpendicular, as though Sage wall is a bridge)?

[@hiimmijk]

I think her wall is actually gonna create a lot bugs and its probably gonna be very very strong. Interesting agent.

[@yeormama]

I’m guessing the meta is gonna either switch from mobile duelists like Jett and Neon to more dueling agents like Reyna and Iso or the Yoru is going to become a must pick for initiator role.

[@vuanhuc3582]

Nah, the meta is stop smoking off sentinel trip so people cant jump spot it can waste a powerful ability

[@Aboj1FCS]

Initiator and Sentinel is a sick mix.

[@syedkaleem5866]

The sickle is sick😱

[@SubhojitDutta15]

Can Reyna dismiss activate Vyse's wall?? Also can Yoru ult activate the wall?

[@Dydro274]

thx w vid gangy

[@HasapManpei]

good work!!!

[@vishnuprakash2581]

that flash is nasty

[@levi3933]

1) Can shear be used such that it's line is on the spike, so that anyone who comes to defuse activates it and makes spike inaccessible for 7 seconds? 2) How fast can we pick up the flash after it's flashing, like in the gameplay trailer, vyse looked at the flash, maybe to flash and instantly pick it up? 3) How long is shear exactly? 4) Is there someplace we can shoot to break shear before it activates? 5) How long does Razorvine last? Can we stack on it with a chamber or sage slow? 6) What is the trajectory of Razorvine? Is it the same as Viper Orb (or Killjoy/Brim/Gekko Molly) or is it like Viper Molly? Also I think that Vyse Ult has a long windup time to activate like KJ ult, where there are certain KJ ults which give opponents a small cubby to be safe in and the KJ has lineups for that specific cubby, so either you get detained or mollied. Same here, either no weapon for 8 seconds or slowed and taking dmg from Razorvine or just stuck in place for the duration of it

[@avoarmy]

Kay/o's ult/knife and vyse's ult together would be a death combo for chamber

[@porom]

Fantastic video

[@mysteryowl1429]

her razorvine is probably a barbed wire

[@Kazirozhaku]

vyse's ult stance looks similar to iso's ult and i like that

[@emirx1126]

0:42 wait what skin is that?

[@QuangTheHunter]

It's the noctrum bundle

[@MaverickPOV]

Thank you Kanga, now I’m ready to use Vyse this Tuesday! ❤

[@sansation3671]

that rose placement is wild

[@CrAzY799999]

can you make a short whether or not the thorns are hp based(ie as you said, possibly 50 health) or it needs to specifically be hit twice? cause I was hoping you would should it with a guardian and an operator after cause they deal 65 and 150 respectively. if it gets destroyed on one instance of those shots, then definitely hp based ability

[@Sarpy777]

Y’all let’s get this man to 100K 🙌🎉

[@SIRcucocalvo]

Does b-hop give les damage that runing in the c ability ??????

[@elitmiko1026]

if you hit vyse with kayo's knife or ult you can just run pass the wall and the wall is not going to activate actually i saw it on an another channel but its a tactic so

[@user-dx7mk9rr3r]

So when you tested about razorvine about how the damage works,all you did was strafing in one full step range(like, you would usually make a sound if you walk normally, not sneaking)and silent strafing in range of your original postion, so we know sneaking, crouch walk and normal walk all does damage...?(Didnt perform sneaking and crouch walk but it makes a sound so probably yes) what happens if you make a bunch of half steps?

[@harshitjha4392]

When will there be a part 2 😁

[@earrape]

that knife is huge LOL

[@Sri_Ez1xD]

iso : this is my domin my rules !!

[@cinnamiinii]

Does Vyse flash blind things like kj's turret? Will the barb wire destroy things like kj molly/alarm bot? Can things like breach ult/satchel displace steel garden? Just a few things I've thought about, I enjoyed the vid! Looking forward to vyse's release!!

[@raghavmandal7212]

Does getting on some sort of higher higher ground helps to dodge the ult? or does it have infinite vertical range?

[@TEAMKYR]

i was wondering 2 things: 1)does yoru tp effect the wall (I'm guessing not) | 2) and if you/an ally are standing where the wall will spawn when an opponent walks through, will the wall boost you?

[@wnbhigh]

Vyse ults Me: Deagle is my second AWP

[@Lava_Squad]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and predict that she will get a buff then rito will soon realize that they buffed her too much and gonna slightly nerf her just like what happened with Iso history will repeat itself trust me Another prediction is that vyse will make chamber meta again and there will be a chamber on both teams every game trust me on this 1 too

[@reidgamer7663]

Y’all know how Odin is op in lotus and especially in tree a main? With this kit giving you very lose info will be OP with Odin spam along side it already getting powerful but it’ll be hard to get your utility down

[@zephyr4_6]

how has bro not hit 100k subs yet

[@RCBackstaber]

6:40 Charging up for a Kamehameha

[@snotdog24]

This agent is good if you use phantom, you put the Razer wire traps on bomb, they go to diffuse, they take like 10-20 damage now there one tap to the phantom

[@robingrob9717]

Do you think combining iso and vyse uot will work? Like as in you vyse ult wait for them to switch to pistol than iso ult them so that they have to switch weapons in iso ult first allowing you to rush them down and free kill them essentially

[@ggg0224]

ok i thought the flash was gonna be broken as heck but turns out that the flash is not that long. certainly still requires some teamplay into it. the ult def is the op one.

[@TankHealzDps]

Can you place Vyse wall on top of the spike plant location? If you can, when it gets triggered does it properly form and block the spike fully, making it so you can't defuse during the timer? Sage wall segments get destroyed if you try to place it directly over the spike but Vyse wall can't be destroyed so is it a way to delay the defuse since Vyse wall pushes you when it triggers?

[@Giong28]

You should be able to put the shear "on top" of the spike after plant, so enemies cant defuse for some time right?

[@ryoko206]

can you sage wall on top of that wall?

[@GamerAgentYT]

LETS GO AS A CHAMBER MAIN IM SO HAPPY TO HEAR THIS

[@PaulHoleybatch]

Damn, when was the last time Chamber mains were actually happy about game changes/additions?

[@GamerAgentYT]

@@PaulHoleybatch complains never end only if they bring back second tp..

[@diegomiranda8905]

Can you dodge vyse ult with omen tp, I reckon it works with the ult tp but I'm curious about the regular one (like dodging fade and breach ult) Also if you can put abilities in the same spot as the wall what happens? What if I put a cypher trip in the same spot as the wall? Does the wall destroy the trip once triggered? Or does it not even let you do that?

[@iLikeSnowFoxes]

can you updraft over the shear sensor (before the wall pops up)

[@Kyugired]

The wall is instantaneous so there's almost no start-up time once triggered. So my guess is that, if Jett updrafts it would still be triggered

[@user-lg2gl1ll1z]

last 3 months i have idea about sentnal with flash stick on wall and ground so i write letter to riot: "I WANT A NEW SENTINAL AGENT, I came up with it, the agent has 3 types of traps - the double bombs: agent throw the bomb to stick on surface of ground or wall, when agent activate it explode and shot the second bomb along the normal of surface, each deal 80 damage- the Tick tack: agent have 2 traps that can flash, stick it on wall or ground, when activated the tick tack turn red then flash（＾ω＾） - Devil's tunnel: agent place devil' tunnel wall, when agent press key activated devil' tunnel make an ultrasound wave that stun and give enemies position that catch the ultrasound waves - the unfair area: agent place device similar to Lockdown belong to Killjoy, this device creates 3 ultrasound wave that make all people in arena deaf for 5 second each wave and each wave can give position of enemies catch wave, enemies can jump in to air to dodge the underground wave in order not to lead their position. - agent passive abilities: agent will know the position of enemies who got caught by the ultrasound wave from his device. (All device of this agent can be activate by press key button) I really love this game, please make me make this agent real" And now i was ecited for a week when vyse released with flash stick on wall. i feel so kimochiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii（＾ω＾）（＾ω＾）（＾ω＾)

[@SaiKarthikMallareddi]

What if a sage wall is placed very close by the shear placement, how much of the character has to pass through for shear to activate, and if the agent doesn't fit between the two walls, will the sage wall break or will the agent be pushed in the opposite direction? There might be no use just curious

[@skrillyt]

0:20 first thing that came to my mind when i saw her ult

[@eleventhcaptain8718]

i want to know if you could escape the razorvine by moving a little at a time perhaps. or is the safe area only in the middle?

[@0v3rK1llval]

Does killing Vyse during her ult animation stop the ult? Does Yoru ult trigger shear? Does the razorvine affect teammates? Can omen ult out of Vyse’s ult similar to kj lockdown? Does the razorvine make you jump lower? Does yoru TP trigger shear? Does yoru tp slow down in razorvine? Does shear have a height limit? (Can raze satchel /jett updraft over it without triggering it?) What are your thoughts on viper r34?

[@EthoVAL]

Kanga really enjoying using that masters charm in early access 😉

[@trsiam7779]

Imagine playing vyse, sage, and deadlock all at once

[@KnightCrown]

What about omen tps with the wall? Does it still activate it

[@KyloWolf_]

Since you get cleared of the jamming effect when you're in Iso ult, does that mean you'll come back out of his ult and still be able to use the primary, assuming you won the 1v1 fast enough?

[@EmpireDigital028]

Do you activate her wall when in Yoru's ult? Your vids are always very helpful! ❤

[@answering248]

I’d doubt it don’t think anything triggers when yoru ults

[@EmpireDigital028]

@@answering248 probably

[@user-zh8my6lq8x]

Is razovine broken by Viper's molotov cocktail?

[@user-kd9mt6tt6c]

once activated nothing will break them