為何不做雙缸?曾選馬作為靈感?SYM ADXTG 外觀 / 性能 深入揭秘『開啟字幕』

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@OZANKOLAK-ip3tc
@OZANKOLAK-ip3tc 2 ай бұрын
First of all, thank you very much for providing the Turkish subtitle option for this beautiful documentary-like video. In this way, I would have to watch this beautiful and stylish video, which I came across for the first time on KZbin, without understanding it. Since I saw your first video about SYM ADX TG 400, I have subscribed and followed you since you have a language option. Thanks to you, I have gained very good information about the model, which I am the first person I want to buy if it comes to our country, that is, Turkey. I wish you continued success with your videos. Regards.
@LV089292
@LV089292 16 күн бұрын
買TMAX的仿冒車?
@lucas506648
@lucas506648 2 ай бұрын
越來越肯定這個品牌的精神價值,技術也看到質的進化了!
@TheKdai98
@TheKdai98 2 ай бұрын
真的推得很用力耶,車媒、網紅齊發。
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
開發成本貴,要賣多一點啊~ 馬路品質是故意爛的
@apostolosexaras9417
@apostolosexaras9417 2 ай бұрын
I am impressed by the effort that the people at Sanyang put into developing this model from the ground up. The design of the ADXTG400 is impressive and I like that it doesn't copy any other model. But as a consumer I will focus on what interests me. I am a user of many machines such as Africa Twin, R1200GS, KTM and most recently they had the XADV 750. They stole my XADV and I bought an ADX until the ADXTG400 was released on the market. I am leaving for Athens Greece and at the presentation held in Greece in October 2024 I was present and spoke to many journalists about this moto. Everyone had good things to say about its behavior off-road and on winding roads despite its 213 kg. But everyone told me that on the open road and highway the top speed is up to 125 km/h with GPS (not on board). This was completely disappointing. A 400cc scooter with a top speed of 125 km/h? But if I have to get a 400cc scooter ONLY for off-road I would prefer to get either the HONDA NX500 47HP 196kg 17.5L capacity or the 450MT 44HP 192kg 17L capacity. They have bigger wheels, are much more capable off-road than the ADXTG400 and have a top speed of 160+ km/h with GPS (180+ loaded). Scooters are driven by city people who drive 80-90% of them in the city and only 10-20% outside the city. Of that 10-20%, a large part will be on highways where you want speed (above 130-140 km/h) and only a small percentage on bad roads and off-road. So a heavy scooter with 213 kg in the city with little storage space under the seat, no front lockers which are very convenient for the city, not even a hook, which is very useful because you secure a backpack or hang some bags from the supermarket, is called upon to compete with 300-350 cc scooters like the Honda ADV350, the BMW c400 or the Yamaha XMAX. All of these have more space, are lighter and have a HIGHER TOP SPEED of 140+ km/h. Let me give an example and compare the ADXTG400 with the ADV 350. They have the same brakes, they have the same wheels, they have about the same wind protection, they have the same handlebars, the same board (5" LCD), they have the same capacity, they have the same acceleration, they have about the same consumption and they have about the same price. But the ADV350 is superior in space under the seat 48 liters instead of 32 liters, it has 2 lockers, it weighs 186 kg instead of 213 kg and it has a TOP SPEED of 140 km/h instead of 125 km/h. The ADXTG400 is superior only in suspensions for this and it has better performance off-road and maybe on a winding road. I think SYM should seriously consider all these issues and find some solutions, especially regarding the TOP SPEED. Otherwise, instead of competing with the XADV750, it will compete with 300-350cc scooters. And that would be unjustified for such a serious effort.
@stanleychen6502
@stanleychen6502 2 ай бұрын
外型風格設計、造車工藝、關鍵技術的創新,雙陽之間的差距已經完全不是同一個等級可以比擬,看到國產車廠能有長足進步感到高興😎
@詹姆斯-h3j
@詹姆斯-h3j 2 ай бұрын
光陽在歐美好像還是不錯,不知道是不是台灣市場較小的關係,感覺新車有點亂了陣腳,比較是用一種“我也能做呀,而且比你更好”,結果就感覺有在致敬三陽的感覺😅
@陳風-g6p
@陳風-g6p 2 ай бұрын
新版ak550還是很頂啊,比tmax還早有彎道abs,但其他車是真沒興趣
@謝カ祺-m2f
@謝カ祺-m2f 2 ай бұрын
光陽並不差只是沒有把心放在台灣身上
@嗎沒啊去而起
@嗎沒啊去而起 2 ай бұрын
你知道這台車跟本田的車有97%像嗎?😂
@Min.C
@Min.C 2 ай бұрын
外型都是尖銳、大燈太亮是要弄瞎前車、受眾族群都是那種調調…這是我對三陽的感覺。
@taicheng551
@taicheng551 2 ай бұрын
應該出250CC才對,白牌上限的車型。
@831033ss
@831033ss Ай бұрын
真的要來個250
@lovetaiwan911
@lovetaiwan911 2 ай бұрын
敲碗白牌250 紅黃牌在市區太難停車了,很痛苦
@GG30CM
@GG30CM 2 ай бұрын
250也沒多好停吧...
@lovetaiwan911
@lovetaiwan911 2 ай бұрын
@ 至少機車停車位可以停😭
@GG30CM
@GG30CM 2 ай бұрын
@@lovetaiwan911 其實都能停啦😅
@youzhenchen5641
@youzhenchen5641 2 ай бұрын
​@@GG30CM 不是車子大小問題 是會不會被檢舉開單問題
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@GG30CM 你知道汽機車停車位收費的差距有多麼大嗎?沒差別?你是富二代嗎?
@chihsindai9338
@chihsindai9338 2 ай бұрын
HUSKY ADV 真的期待好久了,希望能夠在台上市🙏,除了三陽研發中心及浩瀚設計外,廈杏及三陽越南,也希望能去拍攝,讓大家更知道三陽所推出的車型。
@Ice_man0716
@Ice_man0716 2 ай бұрын
沒用的 三陽聽不到消費者的聲音⋯⋯從米蘭車展發表 就期待哈士奇 結果大陸 東南亞等地都有了 台灣呢?連個屁聲都沒有😏😏
@tgc0519
@tgc0519 2 ай бұрын
@@Ice_man0716 當初哈士奇150的大油箱跟 奇特造型很吸引我... 可惜啊!台灣三陽不出就是不出.. DRG 龍式或MMBCU則無感..😮‍💨
@Ice_man0716
@Ice_man0716 2 ай бұрын
@ 對啊 還有它的頭燈組 很好看 所以才會有所期待😂😂
@marksmiraf
@marksmiraf 7 күн бұрын
Does this maxi scoot have CVT belt drive on the right side of the engine? Thank you for answers
@BoBo-bh8ef
@BoBo-bh8ef 2 ай бұрын
期待未來這顆400引擎,能衍生出更多車型 旅行型、跑旅型、運動型的車款上
@championsheep
@championsheep 2 ай бұрын
所謂仿生設計或仿生學,是藉由觀察模仿生物結構和功能原理、外型為輔進行設計解決問題,而不是只設計外型就說是仿生設計,三陽目前做的應該稱為靈感或概念。例如翠鳥造型的新幹線大幅度降低風阻、耗能與噪音,這類型才叫做仿生設計。我相信三陽不需要說仿生也可以有很好的銷售成績。
@coffeecat7413
@coffeecat7413 2 ай бұрын
誰說仿生一定要融入功能、而不能只是外型?
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
同意!我一直無法認同 像荷葉效應,表面具有粗糙的微觀形貌以及疏水的表皮蠟,這種結構可防止水將表面潤濕。 像游泳的鯊魚裝,表面粗糙的V形皺褶可以減少水流的摩擦力,使身體周圍的水流更有效率地流過。
@championsheep
@championsheep 2 ай бұрын
@@coffeecat7413 我業界20年資歷設計師負責任說的,仿生設計的定義就是如此,這真的只能叫做靈感。我在學生時期就做了只有外型的仿生結果評圖時被教授輪番炮到顱內高潮的記憶歷歷在目。不求戰但實事求事理性討論,您用google簡單搜尋一下關鍵字,這是很好的學習機會。
@championsheep
@championsheep 2 ай бұрын
@@huang78728 您的概念完全正確是屬於材料應用的仿生設計。我是看到發光的獠牙日行燈說仿生設計就崩了,原以為是行銷渲染結果是連設計部都這麼說,這情況大約是在MMBCU發表的時候開始,以前稱作為概念、意象都還可以接受。感謝支持論述❤️
@egg1979
@egg1979 2 ай бұрын
Jet也沒仿生任何東西 銷量還是賣的很好 但仿生對年輕族群有加分啦 不管是外觀還是設計 Jet一開始還行 最後是打贏勁戰才紅紅火火
@ericlin511
@ericlin511 2 ай бұрын
有幸能報名到9月在大龍港駕訓班的試乘場次,沒認錯的話那天就是由Ricky在現場講解ADXTG的設計及特色
@藝哥-r3l
@藝哥-r3l 2 ай бұрын
可以考慮出250嗎 絕對買單
@831033ss
@831033ss Ай бұрын
+1 +1
@jameszhang4189
@jameszhang4189 2 ай бұрын
出150版本的話,真的會想買…👍
@czj8888
@czj8888 2 ай бұрын
畸型的法規下,這個尺寸的車子,沒法子停路邊停車格,所以真的下放到白牌上限的設定,應該是大有可為市場。 雖然米蘭車展都有300、150的車型出現了,要是真出了白牌上限的車型,只希逞保留原始大部份該有的設計,而不單只是掛個系列名字。
@莊駿瑜
@莊駿瑜 2 ай бұрын
我比較期待JET14.EVO!
@devilpen6565
@devilpen6565 Ай бұрын
一、國內,山葉的車造型與設計感,勝2羊。 二、如果夠敏銳,一看又是xx電影【變型金鋼】的概念元素。 三、原創感很重要。譬如本田、哈雷....。
@dudugoodsize
@dudugoodsize 2 ай бұрын
ADX跟JETX什麼時候要出,我覺得ADX比較適合在台灣啟程,應該有辦法跟NMAX打的有來有回
@tw_YU
@tw_YU 2 ай бұрын
已經超越NMAX了,取代目前黃牌大洋一哥的地位了
@Jigger0
@Jigger0 2 ай бұрын
希望會有 ADXTG 550紅牌版本!
@Tangtang-y2q
@Tangtang-y2q 9 күн бұрын
三陽設計團隊真的很棒!很期待三陽的紅牌大羊問世!加油
@Chinya51
@Chinya51 2 ай бұрын
說真的這外型出250白牌真的有市場
@barker3514
@barker3514 2 ай бұрын
ADV 150趕緊推出阿
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@barker3514 不用推,等光陽追上來再下放,才能夠榨取最大的利益。
@linallen7067
@linallen7067 2 ай бұрын
希望三陽能用野狼為本 出一台輕量化街爬車 輸出低沒關係 但是要有黃牌 外面車行都能改到正250 原廠沒道理不行吧?
@rgsx1980
@rgsx1980 2 ай бұрын
是該讓這輛機車下越野拉力賽,不下賽道不可能會有新的衍生車種。 目前可以參與的賽道就是上次陳河皇大哥參加的亞洲越野拉力賽。 這車條件已經具備差不多了,剩下就是在嚴苛賽道作最後考驗。
@taiwan59362
@taiwan59362 2 ай бұрын
可以用這個一半的認真來幫野狼做最末代的改良嗎?
@張榮展-l9k
@張榮展-l9k 2 ай бұрын
出245小老虎吧!
@cutekeller愛
@cutekeller愛 2 ай бұрын
說實話已經2024了,臺灣政府的行政政策及道路法規磨耗了我們大部分騎士的耐心與信心。 沒有期待就沒有傷害,設計再帥氣的車,製造再省油的車,販售再便宜的車,也是他國事物了。
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
後來,終於在眼淚中明白,有些人一旦錯過就不再
@fsl9579
@fsl9579 2 ай бұрын
輕鬆貼地飛行時速100公里以上,你享受過了,難道你不再進化了嗎 未來期待的是開放個人空中飛行交通工具 我現在菲律賓,除了大城市和高速公路,其他都是坑疤爛路,他們地區政府好像沒有修路經費,空中交通才能直接升級交通乘坐舒適度
@05張建龍
@05張建龍 Ай бұрын
看樣子可以等待小劍齒虎的誕生了😄
@garya89089409
@garya89089409 2 ай бұрын
與其拼命打廣告還不如降點價😅
@sonbui4772
@sonbui4772 Ай бұрын
Xe đẹp quá , SYM hãy mang nó đến Vietnam ,chúng tôi mong chờ có nó .♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@matthewtsai9707
@matthewtsai9707 Ай бұрын
之前小循環拉溫馬上衝到墊片
@tzerchen6265
@tzerchen6265 Ай бұрын
坦白講如果這台能照比例,縮小到200cc以下大概就能屌打市售500cc以下的ADV車款了
@hugodiaz5714
@hugodiaz5714 Ай бұрын
Entendí todo
@孫豆豆
@孫豆豆 2 ай бұрын
可不可以問一下會不會出檔車呀~150~300~500都好!!
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
檔車!檔車!檔車!
@SmallClawedOtter1244
@SmallClawedOtter1244 2 ай бұрын
三陽外銷有300的ADV檔車
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
@@SmallClawedOtter1244 NHT200 我也知道啊~ 但,你有看到實車?
@stranger_b6518
@stranger_b6518 2 ай бұрын
好像有聽說,三陽的外銷檔車是貼牌車,當地車廠研發,貼上三陽LOGO,雖然不確定是否為真,但剛好能解釋為什麼三陽都不出新檔車🤔
@SmallClawedOtter1244
@SmallClawedOtter1244 2 ай бұрын
@@huang78728 NHT300在今年5月的時候有人在新竹有拍到測試車
@林普巴茲提特-s4q
@林普巴茲提特-s4q 2 ай бұрын
造車沒有考慮聲浪,就少了靈魂。 下次改款考慮雙缸吧,希望TL的體質能越來越好,會氣喘,滑離壽命太短!
@GoldenCharm48763
@GoldenCharm48763 2 ай бұрын
2:05 不是技術力做不出大排量檔車嗎? 講得這麼好聽
@tasostzive4206
@tasostzive4206 6 күн бұрын
Please use English cc!
@孫悟空-q1n
@孫悟空-q1n 25 күн бұрын
我身為車主 唯一嫌的就是原廠配胎 沒了
@UTubeSOX3411
@UTubeSOX3411 2 ай бұрын
雖然沒有人提過 但是我覺得NMAX的車頭兩側線條 有類似馬匹動物腿部跟軀幹連接的線條
@UltraRailgun
@UltraRailgun 2 ай бұрын
ADXTG甚麼都好,問題是踏板太大導致停車時雙腳無法落地,試騎感覺要175以上才可能蹬腳停腳,如果要讓更多人玩得起劍齒虎這問題務必要解決
@mtfk3481
@mtfk3481 2 ай бұрын
這種車本來就挑身高,對腳短的人就是不親民,踏板再小下去,腳就沒地方踩了,座高只有790已經不錯了,我173去試騎X-ADV,也不會覺得腳路有什麼問題,更何況座高820又是雙缸,車身又更寬。
@ChiangChunChien
@ChiangChunChien 2 ай бұрын
試乘時全場只有我186,才有辦法雙腳踏地,甚至跨在車上用左腳蹬中柱立起來,剩下沒人有辦法。
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
火花羅可以騎很順, 是技巧和經驗很多, 別被話術唬了
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@huang78728 換言之,只要有技巧,身高150cm完全不會有安全問題囉?
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@UltraRailgun 450mt就沒這個問題了,176cm全掌貼地,反正都要停汽車格,三箱出門有差嗎?
@brorizvlog240
@brorizvlog240 Ай бұрын
Cvt or dct ...pls respon
@kevin700602
@kevin700602 2 ай бұрын
可以問一下,常常會有汽油味,是什麼問題能解答嗎?
@hajinana
@hajinana 29 күн бұрын
要看是在什麼時候聞到的。 如果是剛發車,車子尚未達到工作溫度,油氣會無法完全燃燒,無論是汽車還是機車,多少都會有汽油味。 如果行駛已久,卻仍然有汽油味,請回車行檢查是不是有油管等部件老化,導致油氣甚至燃油外洩,以確保行車安全。
@sonbui4772
@sonbui4772 Ай бұрын
gooooddddd. tôi rất quan tâm muốn hãng SYM bán xe này bán tại Vietnam tôi sẽ mua mẫu này dùng cho touring .
@mm920188
@mm920188 2 ай бұрын
期待xadv車架引擎拆光
@ZhangSnowing
@ZhangSnowing 2 ай бұрын
拆光你會怕😢XADV壞變速箱的路過…
@mm920188
@mm920188 2 ай бұрын
車台都撞歪還有什麼好怕
@mm920188
@mm920188 2 ай бұрын
@@ZhangSnowing 修好應該要二十萬?
@ZhangSnowing
@ZhangSnowing 2 ай бұрын
@@mm920188 是不用啦 但是下引擎基本就三萬起跳了
@matthewtsai9707
@matthewtsai9707 Ай бұрын
MVH是啥
@JohannLee60
@JohannLee60 2 ай бұрын
ADV300有點太靠進400,ADV150又不太夠力,在台灣應該要推出一台白牌的ADV200
@張榮展-l9k
@張榮展-l9k 2 ай бұрын
245比較完美
@jameszhang4189
@jameszhang4189 2 ай бұрын
125都滿街跑了,台灣的小路騎150怎會不夠?
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
@@jameszhang4189 速限 30 km/h ,真的夠用🤪
@hugohugo6951
@hugohugo6951 2 ай бұрын
單缸底速特性比雙缸好騎❤❤❤
@黃煜倫-k9f
@黃煜倫-k9f 2 ай бұрын
10:51 只有我很好奇設計訪談的時候,後面那台看起來很帥的檔車是哪台嗎😂,有沒有大神可以解答一下🥺
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
SB 300/250 選配零件吧 60 是創廠 60 年紀念吧
@黑夜不眠
@黑夜不眠 2 ай бұрын
Sb 300 cr 60周年紀念色,可惜這車停產了不然我也好想要買一台
@林胖胖-m8s
@林胖胖-m8s 2 ай бұрын
不管怎樣都會被嫌的車 不是說太貴 就是拿二手某車價錢來比 不然就是拿進口來討論 甚至說輪框
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@林胖胖-m8s 給雙缸,TFT,鋼絲框,全可調有牌子的避震,我就閉嘴。
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
@@nelson12362 你願意用多少錢購入?
@rx9904
@rx9904 2 ай бұрын
看起來三陽除劍齒虎之外,還有隱藏車款,草泥馬跟趕羚羊XDD
@廈方蘭
@廈方蘭 Ай бұрын
可惜。sym沒有250的馬力動力,250的空間,158的車身 要不然直接跳250,不甩158
@akiyama小澪
@akiyama小澪 2 ай бұрын
是一台我很想買,但是買不起的車😢
@831033ss
@831033ss Ай бұрын
我是買了會被罵 只能去車展試乘
@ymmij2002
@ymmij2002 2 ай бұрын
這一台可以孤輪嗎
@小雨-y8g
@小雨-y8g 2 ай бұрын
內容很好,但你們家的官網架設是真的做得很爛,廣告版面混亂就算,文章圖片還常常跳不出來,感就是跟廣告系統衝突 建議多跟工程師溝通,別為了賺廣告錢把最核心的東西給搞爛
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
第一觀感真的最重要 GO PRO 官網用得很炫
@ych5192
@ych5192 2 ай бұрын
沒鋼絲框不要說自己是ADV,還有排氣量也太小了,來個600~700cc大單缸,大扭力爆發力還比較符合劍齒虎形象
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
400 cc 真的不符形象
@GG30CM
@GG30CM 2 ай бұрын
DL650與R1200GS表示:原來我們不是ADV😅
@randies2557
@randies2557 2 ай бұрын
這台的問題一直都是價格吧!同為國產價,日本差不多的價格能買到XADV了
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@randies2557 買二手的就好了阿,新款xadv上市後,價格會很好
@林胖胖-m8s
@林胖胖-m8s 2 ай бұрын
難道騎個車要先買機票上班嗎?
@randies2557
@randies2557 2 ай бұрын
@林胖胖-m8s 所以呢?消費者看的就是最終結果,三陽就是把台灣人到盤子宰呀!
@特務羊毛
@特務羊毛 2 ай бұрын
呃....... VTEC 專利過期了嗎~?
@NineballxWaaagh
@NineballxWaaagh 2 ай бұрын
試車那邊下雨我直接笑了出來XD
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
@SUPERMOTO8
@SUPERMOTO8 2 ай бұрын
敬業
@peterchen9764
@peterchen9764 2 ай бұрын
三陽沒原創,只會抄襲Honda,連出個紅色害怕被嘴,可憐啊!
@jackychang6269
@jackychang6269 2 ай бұрын
抄來的講的好像是原創一樣
@a0956010879
@a0956010879 2 ай бұрын
少了猛瑪象,覇王龍,三角龍,翼龍,不然可以合體成大獸神
@JpuseJp
@JpuseJp 2 ай бұрын
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
你忍心讓 沛沛 和 嗡嗡 沒年終嗎? ☺☺☺
@cleverni19
@cleverni19 2 ай бұрын
希望下次車重能低一點213KG.......基本只能算公路車 越野?不存在的
@youzhenchen5641
@youzhenchen5641 2 ай бұрын
本來就不是off road車是ADV車
@多拉雷
@多拉雷 2 ай бұрын
ㄜ.......還不是皮帶車?
@huang78728
@huang78728 2 ай бұрын
皮帶車?😜🤪🙃
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@huang78728 cvt啦
@Teddy.yyyccc
@Teddy.yyyccc Ай бұрын
車太重了....
@jackychang8599
@jackychang8599 2 ай бұрын
仿生???一切都是噱頭!!政府跟廠商為了賺錢,利益優先!!!台灣機車消費者,身為魚肉多年!!已經不相信廠商的說詞,口袋有多深?就買甚麼等級的車.........說那麼多都是噱頭噱頭噱頭!
@POKIYA302
@POKIYA302 2 ай бұрын
是誰一直抄~~!?(大家都知道啦XD)
@uc6404
@uc6404 2 ай бұрын
敲碗白牌?二十萬你們也是買不下去啦😂😂😂
@shiuanmax1009
@shiuanmax1009 2 ай бұрын
這車賣不好,只看過兩台在路上跑 應該說會玩這類車的都會買進口車
@youzhenchen5641
@youzhenchen5641 Ай бұрын
你要不要看看開賣後的銷量才說話
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
但還是一台都不願意買
@den14kuo
@den14kuo 2 ай бұрын
不做雙缸因為沒那技術
@-9527-
@-9527- 2 ай бұрын
應該是成本及售價還有定位問題 , 而且 TL 不就是双缸嗎?
@yan3604
@yan3604 2 ай бұрын
SYM TL 雙缸
@陳風-g6p
@陳風-g6p 2 ай бұрын
@@den14kuo tl的是tmax500的引擎換殼
@nelson12362
@nelson12362 2 ай бұрын
@@陳風-g6p 是人家淘汰不要的引擎
@李曉龍-s3o
@李曉龍-s3o 2 ай бұрын
太重,影響越野時的靈活性
@LV089292
@LV089292 16 күн бұрын
又是TMAX的山寨仿冒衍生品😂!SYM產品始終來自仿冒,原來仿冒品是台灣新標竿,日本山葉看到會笑死!買SYM TL、ADXTG這種車,就像買仿冒名牌包一樣!
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