W201 diesels a model overview

[@lead-dog]

Pierre! That is absolutely one of, if not THE, most professional presentations from a video production perspective you have ever posted! Huge kudos to you and Thomas both. Just a real step up! Love it!

[@mercedesclassicswithpierre1753]

We really appreciate you lead dog for viewing our videos and leaving a comment. I tried to read as many as I can and take your responses for consideration on future videos. Thomas Polk KZbin Creator.

[@next2normal]

The word bulletproof is well deserved for the 602, and a keeper, thanks for the vid on the orphan model

[@narcissistinjurygiver2932]

I would love to own a 201 with a diesel. the man who trained me when I was an apprentice had one and it was great!

[@milesporter6934]

have ‘84 w201 190D 2.2 shiny red/tan 5spd w/sunroof w/approx 116m rust-free colorado car.

[@Madel750]

@@milesporter6934 Do you still have the 190d?

[@gioiosa54]

One of the best videos you ever made -- now for w124 ,,thx

[@thisisnightshop2037]

ok...124 diesels next

[@gioiosa54]

@@thisisnightshop2037 interested in 124 as next ,,

[@matthoward1174]

Love this era of Mercedes,.. especially the 124 and 201. Modern style with 123 quality and values.

[@dieselbenzrevive6820]

i can listen to you talk Diesels ALL DAY LONG.

[@thisisnightshop2037]

thank you

[@martyn19931]

Fantastic video Pierre, thank you for covering these underrated cars. The first car I was ever in, having been taken home from the hospital after being born in one, was in my Dad’s 190D 2.0. I therefore have a strong connection with them.

[@ItsTimePictures]

The desk is cleaned out! So Spartan, bud. ;-)

[@ronalddean3630]

It's unreal, Pierre you are a walking/sitting encyclopedia on Mercedes. I am in awe. I did not know this about the 201, but am glad to hear it. I have always liked the 201 for its size and how solid it feels on the road. My neighbor had one some years ago. I am moving into search mode for a new daily driver, so I will have to begin working on manifesting one of these 🙏😌

[@countlesshobbiesmk2273]

I have 190D turbo and love it. Fun car…

[@ronalddean3630]

@@countlesshobbiesmk2273 what year is your car? Is it the 1987? Do you use it as your daily driver? Any sorting out to speak of when you got it or did you buy it new? Thanks

[@garyhartel2180]

Just bought a 190d 2.0 with the rare 5 speed. Rust free with no fender benders. Slow as an asthmatic tortoise, but tough as a bank vault and gets the fuel economy of a Prius. Love it!

[@ExposeTheElites]

I inherited my grandfathers 1986 190D 2.5 naturally aspirated. The car needs a lot of work but I’m up to the task! Beautiful machine.

[@jamescarrick9752]

Was in Germany, '80-'85. Went to MB factory in '83. Yep, making W201s. That convinced me, had to own one.

[@countlesshobbiesmk2273]

I have 1987 190D turbo. Just tested fuel economy few days ago. 90% highway, 10% local streets. Speed was about 70-80mph with AC on full. Fuel economy was just under 35 mpg measured at the pump.

[@countlesshobbiesmk2273]

Interesting fact…. tested 2005 e320 cdi on the same road, got 38.8 mpg. With that said, e320 is in much better shape mechanically than my 190 DT. I never did fuel pump calibration and injectors were calibrated without any special equipment in the basement and without any prior experience.

[@neilrafferty2097]

190D 2.5 turbo is all you’d ever need .

[@andrewkessinger5966]

My dad and I both daily drive Diesel 201s. His is a 2.2 automatic, mine is a 2.5 manual. We love these cars. I can attest to 40+ mpg if you keep the speed 65 and lower (not easy in TX where I live) in my '86. I average 30 in 105 weather at 80 MPG, 36 in the winter.

[@jamescarrick9752]

Great info. 1st Mercedes was a '89 W201, gas. Wish I still had the car. The 2.9 TD in a W20l would be a hoot!

[@michaeljoiner2503]

I just found this video and thanks! An avid daily driver last 25 years of my 190D 2.5 manual and also 190D 2.5 turbo. I have a spare manual gearbox and all else, but I think I will keep it auto. To cruise ) cheers

[@nosoupforyou425]

Love the Diesels

[@stilltrying2gopro829]

Have 2 190d turbos and one om601 parts car. I took the 601 cars manual components and swapped mine to manual. Can't wait to swap the injection pump, intercooler and 1st cummins hx30 turbo. I heard they only shipped 1500 or 2500 to the US market and all turbo diesels were auto only. I have number 666. It was the easiest auto to manual swap I've done even easier than the Hondas I've done.

[@ventsislav92makaveev]

I had a 601.602 N/A ,605 N/A and currently OM646. I loved that 605 , smoothest diese i've owned.

[@thisisnightshop2037]

605 is a superb engine

[@pinzgauernorcal]

YESSS!!

[@DieselRundqvist]

The 602 turbodiesel was avalible with 5 gear manual transmission in Sweden, but it was a option many didn't buy. My friend has a 602 td manual gearbox, very nice car, with "modern" performance

[@tonychavez2083]

If I could find a non abused 2.5D I would buy in a heartbeat. Thanks for the insight

[@tommyolsen8224]

Miss my old 190E W201

[@rbur5153]

Great info as always Pierre, always appreciate you bringing the diesel community together. Any advice on owning a 2.5 turbo. Is Head gasket failure inevitable and to be expected?. Any tell tale signs or ways to mitigate the damage If failure does occur

[@AlonSOAMAZING]

Hopefully one day the 190e will get covered but great video and so impressed with your knowledge

[@murraykriner9425]

Great information. Just figures I have to live in the market that gets only brief glimpses of the best cars. When gas prices spiked years ago, I wanted a VW Polo with a 1.1 liter engine, as they were getting better than 50 mpg if you kept it in running trim & proper time. Only sold in other nations around the globe, with little chance of imports being allowed ever. Most Benz Diesels are hard to get a hold of a decent running model. The only ones I find in Ohio are left in the field for years, and would require both a parcel of cash and a Papal Blessing to get it running right again, since the corrosive nature of oxidized oils in most cases will gall and pit the he'll out of the bearing surfaces alone. Thank you for your informative video, and as always warmest regards.

[@nickwhite2696]

Hi Pierre from over the pond near London. Really enjoyed your overview thank you. UK wasn't lucky enough to see turbo charged models of W201 and W124. I was told the steering box got in the way, so we had to wait for the 605 and 606 which are lovely ! Can't say i'd want to run a CDI ; what do you think ?

[@jermeyelliott1671]

Can you do one on the w201 gas. Hope you've been staying safe.

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

the 601 engine with the line pump from bosch was used in the 2,3 version until 1999 in the vito w638

[@turbogrunnen]

Om602 turbo was (also) a euro option. It has an air vent grill on the front right fender.

[@ramonbarreirovazquez2010]

Yeah. Om602 turbos with 5 speed manuals where avaliable on Europe on te w201

[@spenceronni7]

Good info, and good video quality. Keep up the good work! What's your opinion on the six cylinder diesel engines that came in the W124 and W126?

[@olrikschmieder5263]

Hello Pierre, thank you for presenting the diesel versions of the W201. The W201 is very popular in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. It would be great to present the gasoline versions as well. There is a huge variety from 1.8 till 2.6 Liter engines to be evaluated. Carburator- versus KE-Jetronic - engines. 4-speed versus 5-speed transmissions in comparison to automatic... Fuel consumption of the M102 in connection with a manual transmission is pretty good. I know that Americans don't care about fuel consumption, but my 1.8 with manual gearbox needs between 6 Liters (on country roads) and 8 Liters (on the Autobahn) per 100km. What do you think about the M102 and M103 engines? Greetings from Germany, Olrik

[@BolsakTBagger]

i have an 87 190d2.5 turbo. i bought it 12 years ago. it runs fine but the ac is shot. i might be selling it soon

[@danielwestwood1]

Useful 👍

[@TheLuisg92]

I always see people in facebook groups seeking to buy a W201 Turbo and when one finally appears for sale, they think it’s too expensive. They think $3500 is a lot of money for a good example of one of the rarest cars they will ever get. They are either mad or too cheap not to buy one of those for that price.

[@BolsakTBagger]

luis- i am not on facebook but i am curious to know what they sell for. i have 2.5 turbodiesel but i don't think i will ever sell it because it is so fast. so how much do the sellers usually ask for them?

[@TheLuisg92]

@@BolsakTBagger I am not sure what they sell for. It’s so rare to find one for sale, but I have seen a couple of higher millage but well cared examples in the 3 to 4 grands range (now, that’s the asking price, so I guess they change hands for less than that). That’s W123 money for a car that is far rarer and faster. If you have one and don't have the need to part ways with it, keep it. You may not find another one.

[@TheSpekkel1]

@@TheLuisg92 Price of turbo 190d's has gone up significantly in Europe during the last couple of years. Basically being non obtainium for a working class chap like myself. Decent W124 with 602 turbo can still be bough for relatively cheap, 4-6k€. Diesels, especially older examples have taken a serious hit in popularity, because of the ever rising cost of diesel itself, which slows down the appreciation of these vehicles. But I don't mind the "high" mpg of these cars, as I've counted that having a newer, more efficient car will add up in cost of ownership significantly with time, costing way more than a decent condition mercedes does in fuel and repairs.

[@rivermonsoon7009]

Have a 1990 2.5 turbo 300d. It’s been good so far do you know what problems I should watch out for on this one? Thanks for all you share with us.

[@mahmoudshojai431]

Long live the 240D.

[@bobbbobb4663]

mahmoud shojai The OM616 is still in production in India. Mb licensed the design.

[@pmkleinp]

@@bobbbobb4663 This is good to know. I'm helping my friend revive his grandpa's 1976 W115 240D that his dad let languish for 10 years.

[@AlonSOAMAZING]

Can we please do a review on the American 190e the 2.6 ?

[@adriancernat4372]

Piere do a 190E explanation!!! I hve a 1.8 nautical blue 4 speed manual ! I would like to know your thoughts about this engine! Mine si fully restored!

[@VintageOutboardMan]

I love the 601 engines. We had two of them and we drove both till 350k miles and those engine still never let us down. Quality has been going down hill since then if you ask me.

[@thisisnightshop2037]

the 601 was a really great engine

[@youngmiles4184]

I have a question should I buy a 2008 c350?

[@gioiosa54]

Pierre - is there a reason why you never discuss diesel purge ?

[@WillEhmannDesign]

will most of them mate up with the dogleg transmission? - Will

[@ricoricardo8609]

Om605? Info??

[@christopher6161]

holy shit imagine a 2.2L om601 lmao i think my E300 turbodiesel OM606 is slow

[@turbogrunnen]

I got a 1984 2.0L om601 5speed manual. it's not fast, But it's fast enough for dutch trafic. (no hills)