Wake Turbulence Encounter - Dallas Love in a Bonanza

Come along on this flight to Love Field (KDAL) in Dallas, Texas in the Bonanza. On a beautiful cloudless and calm winter day, I take off from Muskogee, Oklahoma (KMKO). The flight is routine until seconds before touchdown the left wing drops unexpectedly: wake turbulence.
Filed route: KMKO - FINGR - KDAL (187 nautical miles)
Flown route: KMKO - FINGR.HIBIL3 - KDAL (HIBIL3 is an arrival procedure into KDAL)
Cruise altitude: 8,000 requested, but 6,000 was the highest I was cleared to
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[@aguyinarkansas]

The female ATC was awesome. Very polite and pleasurable

[@martinpauly]

I agree. And she spoke very clearly, just super fast. - Martin

[@WUNDERHOMECONSULTANTScom]

Good reminder, the flights not over till it’s over! Stay healthy 😎

[@martinpauly]

Thanks - you as well! - Martin

[@NikosWings]

Good explanation and reminder that as you said the flight is not over until the engine is shutdown

[@martinpauly]

Wise words, Niko! I hope you and your family are doing OK in these crazy times. All the best to you, my friend! - Martin

[@Parr4theCourse]

Yep, I tend to forget or relax sometime on calm wind days (not very often in Kansas), somethingI need to work on improving!!

[@jack4burns]

Couple of things - I'm not a pilot but great video! I would never think about that air wake at touch down with no one in front of you - excellent control - And yes that girl was talking so fast I don't see how you can stay on top of it all.

[@Cousin.]

Yup. "HiBil", as in Hillbilly. LOL Nice as usual Martin. It's a pleasure to watch you fly. You're absolutely right about the Flight is not over until you lock the door & walkaway from the plane. (Just to paraphrase. : ) Sorry about Sun 'n Fun Martin. I thought they were going to stay on, then just postpone, and was hoping they would stay committed. Hopefully EAA will go on as planned.

[@martinpauly]

My offer stands to buy you a beverage of your choice at AirVenture if you can make it there. Not sure if I should place a bet on that for 2020, but I am hoping it can still happen. Fingers crossed! - Martin

[@JimBateyPhotography]

Great video. The video from the front facing camera is clear and sharp. Nice. Someone should tell that female traffic controller that she is largely unintelligible, at least to me. It's amazing the you could understand her.

[@martinpauly]

I wouldn't go as far as calling her unintelligible, but it certainly took some effort to keep up with the pace of her voice! :-) - Martin

[@flyby420]

I'll say it again. Martin, you have top notch informative videos. Love each and every one.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you so much! I will try to keep it that way. - Martin

[@cpuwolf]

head wind love Martin

[@billroberts9182]

I made a mistske tsking off too quick in my PA-18 after a touch and go of a C-130 . A coast Guard C-130 was practicing TO/Landings, and while I was climbing at 250 ft off the ground the cub rolled 90 degrees to my left- about as quick as an eye blinking. I was lucky that it abruptly stopped and I used rudder and aileron to roll back level. I was dead meat if I had gone upside down since I'm not aerobaticaly trained. My intention has been to get "upset" training after that experience.

[@martinpauly]

It can be quite violent, and what I experienced fortunately was a very mild case of it. As for upset recovery, that is definitely a great thing to train for. I took a weekend class at CP Aviation last summer with Mark King. They are in Santa Paula, CA, and I got a lot out of it. Best regards, Martin

[@davidstearns9664]

Wow interesting landing...

[@observer1242]

Your masterpiece. I loved it.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Sir! - Martin

[@kylekendall1587]

Thanks For another great video, Martin!

[@martinpauly]

My pleasure, Kyle! - Martin

[@bobninemire6859]

Great filming here. Really like all the over lays and set up for the landing. Thanks for all the great vids. And take care !!

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Bob - you, too! Best, Martin

[@AviationWorldwide]

Thank you for continuously uploading great content !

[@martinpauly]

It's my pleasure, honestly! I really enjoy making these videos, and learn a lot in the process. - Martin

[@AviationWorldwide]

@@martinpauly sehr schön, danke !

[@mrbob92679]

Another great video Martín. With your new panel flying your plane has really become flight management. So cool to have all those tools at your disposal. Thank you for the informative video on how to make flying fun and safe.

[@cadewey6181]

You are about the only one that can leave town, our HIRF tech from Toronto got stuck on the wrong side of the border. Very nice flight, great graphics and thanks for the Wake Turbulence lesson.

[@abrahamnemani3907]

Hi Martin, Another great video, thanks for sharing.

[@martinpauly]

My pleasure, Sir! - Martin

[@waelbeheiry6056]

Another Great Video. you are the best.

[@martinpauly]

I don't know about "the best", but I appreciate the compliment. Best wishes to you in these strange times of COVID-19! - Martin

[@waelbeheiry6056]

Dear Martin, I truly love your videos because of your nice personality that has become very rare these days. I wish you the best and to say safe without any harm you and your loved ones.

[@randymcmeekin1955]

Great technical video - thx!

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Randy - I appreciate the comment! - Martin

[@54jackomo]

Hi Martin wieder ein sehr schönes Video,danke das ich mit fliegen durfte .Ich wünsche dir Kraft und Gesundheit und Zuversicht in diesen Coronazeiten,Gruß Frank und bleib Gesund!

[@bigmotter001]

Very nice flight Martin. Take care.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, John. It was a beautiful day to fly indeed. - Martin

[@soflaav8r]

Great video Martin.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you - happy to hear! - Martin

[@MikeBixby]

Enjoyed the flight

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Mike. - Martin

[@coolguystuff4265]

Great flight Martin. Thanks for taking us along!

[@martinpauly]

Glad you enjoyed the flight! Best, Martin

[@jimmyandkathyharrell]

Enjoyed the video!

[@martinpauly]

Glad to hear you liked it! - Martin

[@russperkins4054]

As always a fun and informative video. Always enjoy seeing a notification for your videos. Looking forward to the next one.

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Russ. Already working on the next one as we speak. - Martin

[@equaltothetaskaviation6440]

Thanks Martin, really enjoyed this one a big change up from the last procedure wise lol - looking forward to the next & hope all is well on your side - nice to see your keeping the blue side up during these crazy times. cheers from OZ

[@martinpauly]

Crazy times indeed... None of this was on our radar, of course, just four weeks ago when I made this flight to Dallas. I wish this could be over as quickly as it came, but I fear it won't be quite as quick... All the best to you! - Martin

[@sebastiangrimm5671]

Every time I watch your latest video I have the impression it's even better than the last one...really enjoyable and just great informational content! Safe Landings! Greetings from Germany.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you very much, Sebastian. I try to pass something unique or interesting along in each new video I make. Best wishes for you and everyone in Germany in these strange times! - Martin

[@chrisc161]

Love your videos. I am doing my IFR training and seeing the entire approach is so helpful in learning.

[@martinpauly]

Happy to hear you found this helpful, Chris. Good luck for completing your instrument training, and for your checkride! - Martin

[@speedygonzales9090]

Nice video Martin, keep it up !!! 😎👍

[@martinpauly]

Thank you - glad you enjoyed it! - Martin

[@GyrocopterGirl]

Thank you 🙏 . Great Video:-)

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, gad you enjoyed it! - Martin

[@jrwarner579]

Gr8 info Martin..Hope you and your family are safe and secure under these clostered times!!!

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, JR - so far, so good. But we are all curious where things might lead to over the next weeks. All the best for you! - Martin

[@66lwmorgan]

A safe landing is a good landing, nice job. I really like all the graphs and the views of the gauges you show. Thanks for sharing.

[@martinpauly]

Happy to hear you enjoyed it - hopefully as much as I enjoyed making it. Best regards, Martin

[@MrRandygen]

I really appreciate You narrating your thoughts. For me, It’s a great learning tool. Thank you.

[@martinpauly]

Glad you found it helpful! - Martin

[@TheClumsyGeekGaming]

Thanks for the amazing videos! I started flying the bonanza g36 in microsoft flight simulator 2020 and your videos have been super helpful and entertaining, not only with the plane itself but also with ifr/vfr procedures and atc communications. I gave your channel a shoutout for my next upcoming video.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, I appreciate that! - Martin

[@jtthill5475]

Well done Martin. You maintain the best inserts of approach plate, instrument, and planning of all the aviation vlogs. Stay away from crowds and hope you find some tailwinds in your travels. Thanks for sharing

[@martinpauly]

Thank you! :-) I am socially distancing myself, staying six feet away from people, sometimes even 6,000 feet (in the Bonanza). All the best to you! - Martin

[@MichaelLloyd]

@@martinpauly I hope to social distance myself in a C172 this weekend. Spring weather is about here and sometimes it's not friendly.

[@mikeblackford994]

Always a pleasure to see such a pro as yourself in my favorite GA plane

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Mike. - Martin

[@UAL1kFlyer]

Very nicely photographed. I watched the approach and landing on the big screen and it looked really good. (That tower controller had a high baud rate).

[@martinpauly]

Yes, she did! :-) (That was a fun way to say "she speaks fast".) - Martin

[@bodriver9719]

Thanks for the ride along! You were flying over a lot of my stomping grounds in Eastern Oklahoma. Lots of familiar scenery there!

[@martinpauly]

And it was a beautiful day to really enjoy all that scenery on this flight! - Martin

[@bodriver9719]

Martin Pauly next time, come a little farther west to KHSD and let me know you’re on your way. I’d love to show my “home”. Blue skies my friend.

[@ronnybaize]

Great video. Loved it all. Makes me want to take my 65mph Kitfox to Dallas .

[@martinpauly]

Go for it - lots of airports in the area suitable for a Kitfox! - Martin

[@prestonmiller9552]

Thanks for sharing Martin. Always enjoy flying along with you. In all my years of flying I have been given the caution wake turbulence warning many times but never actually experienced any effects from it. I like your comment to stay vigilant all the way until you are safely on the ground. That is valuable advice.

[@martinpauly]

Thanks for the feedback, Preston. I am based at a Class Charlie airport and have flown to many larger ones, so landing behind a jet is nothing unusual for me. What I SHOULD have done here is pay better attention to the wind, which came from 290 - giving that famous "light, quartering tailwind" for runway 13L - the textbook scenario for wake turbulence on landing. Best regards, Martin

[@LimeyTX]

@@martinpauly See my comment above on hindsight - I should have read this comment first :)

[@Parr4theCourse]

Good reflexes prior to touchdown!

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Ron. It was really an automatic response; you can see from the angle from behind that I'm starting to correct while my eyes are still looking at the landing gear indication down low. Probably not the best place for those lights! Best, Martn

[@georgestuart2483]

Nice arrival planning Martin. Seems like most times when I file for what a I expect the arrival to be, I just get vectored around!

[@martinpauly]

It really differs from airport to airport, George. Some fly the SIDs and STARs, for others it seems merely a backup plan for lost comms. Best, Martin

[@sbyoung1976]

Nice panel.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you. I really enjoy the upgrades I made to the avionics stack - the Avidyne IFDs, but also the Lynx transponder and the PS Engineering audio panel. And of course the JPI EDM930 engine monitor, which is fantastic. I feel like I have the best of everything - on the RIGHT side of the panel. (The left side will get an update at some point, I'm sure...) Best regards, Martin

[@donc9751]

That sure was a last second surprise that happened just feet above the runway and just as you looked to the right side of your dash, nice quick reflexes to counter control!

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Don! - Martin

[@MichaelLloyd]

Busy flight! It's good to be reminded to fly the aircraft until she's parked. The mesa top airports I fly out of have their own way of reminding me, I like this way better. This was a very well produced video btw

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Michael. - Martin

[@jetdoctn]

Great catch there at landing Martin. The DFW area is unbelievably busy. Those Regional Approach controllers can fast talk with the best of them but they are also some of the friendliest in the business, it's a Texas thing. I'd of stopped on the taxiway also cause it sure didn't look like that corporate jet had gotten the word to hold short for you yet. Looks like a nice FBO but 5.80 a gallon is still steep but compared to the 7.80 here in Memphis I guess thats a steal.

[@martinpauly]

Hey Mike, I hope you and your FedEx colleagues are weathering the corona storm alright! Always good to hear from you! I've only been to Texas a few times in my life, but every visit has been a very pleasant one. I'd love to get to know the state better. As for the business jet, yes, I was initially not quite sure who was going to go first, but the Tower controller was very clear, so I jumped ahead. Figured the jet was on Ground, that's why I did not hear any instructions to them. Best regards, Martin

[@jetdoctn]

Martin Pauly Hey Martin we are doing well. Fedex is running wide open since we are practically the only ones flying freight out of China. You and Becky stay safe and hope to see y’all in Knoxville.

[@raider6511]

Nice flight. Sure glad I came over from JUST PLANE SILLY.

[@martinpauly]

Glad you enjoyed it! - Martin

[@FamilyPilot]

Awesome FBO! We got that goody bag ourselves - my kids loved their pens!! Almost as much as the ice cream! Departing 31R was notam closed was fun taxi to 31L by the big guys. Cheers 🥂

[@martinpauly]

Those winged pens sure are nice! That alone might be a reason to come back here. - Martin

[@sey1yes2]

Another great video. Thank you. (and...that woman approach controller was indeed speaking quickly! i would have been saying, "please repeat" multiple times)

[@martinpauly]

I had been warned that some of the Dallas area controllers speak very fast. She did not disappoint! :-) - Martin

[@WolfPilot]

That's how you tease us Martin! Josh just flew over LAX, so you gotta do one better! I see how you are! Thanks for the instructive video. It was cool watching you interact with center for this IFR flight.

[@martinpauly]

Glad you enjoyed it - one day I hope I can land at all Class Bravo airports. - Martin

[@gorgly123]

Had a headwind yesterday, should have a tailwind today. Wind Gods, "Hold my Beer".

[@martinpauly]

Exactly! :-) - Martin

[@billr8667]

It was interesting to note that the wake turbulence encounter happened just as you looked over to the right to check something on the panel.

[@martinpauly]

Yes, indeed, and I thought about whether that was the true reason for rolling to the left, or maybe just a plain simple wind gust. But in the end, I get back to wake turbulence. You are correctly observing that my head is moving to the right, to check the landing gear, just as the airplane rolls to the left. If you look closely, there is no aileron movement which explains this roll. Nor were there any wind gusts, or any strong wind for that matter. What there WAS was a light, slightly quartering tailing (from 290 for runway 13L) - textbook conditions for having a wake somewhat stationary over the runway. I cannot say with absolute certainty that that is what it was, but it is the most plausible explanation in my mind. Best regards, Martin

[@dutchygirl]

I remember me and my instructor waiting behind a heavier twin prop to line up and just feeling our little DV20 get some beating of it. In the meantime 2 aircraft on final and landed almost simultaneously. It was a remarkable flight lesson day and I even got it on tape. We took some extra time before taking off. I don´t think I could handle wake turbulence like this if I would be on my own. This was great to watch and to learn from!

[@martinpauly]

Thanks for sharing that experience - and glad to hear you enjoyed the video. Best regards, Martin

[@dutchygirl]

@@martinpauly Thank you for sharing such great and well edited content!

[@martinpauly]

@@dutchygirl Alstublieft, Dutchy girl!

[@dutchygirl]

@@martinpauly Thank you for being so wonderful and very polite in my own language! If you ever have questions about the Netherlands (Europe), feel free to ask! Not flying currently due to the virus situation, however cheers from EHTE and EHLE anyways!

[@martinpauly]

@@dutchygirl I actually landed at Teuge once in a Cessna 152 during my PPL training. I grew up in Germany, very close to the Dutch border - EDLF was my home base for more than 10 years.

[@GeezerGeekPilot]

Excellent video, Martin. Quick ForeFlight tip (realizing you're a recent convert)... 8:03, click the FBO button upper bar to display the location of all FBOs (including in this case Business Jet Center) on the Airport Diagram.

[@martinpauly]

Awesome - thank you! - Martin

[@michaelcampbell6820]

You also had a slight tailwind component, which can sometimes push the vortices farther down the runway than you might otherwise expect to encounter them.

[@martinpauly]

Yes, absolutely correct, Michael. - Martin

[@gonzobyron]

Thanks for coming in i spoke to you on ramp

[@martinpauly]

Hey, Byron, I remember talking to you and your buddy there! Thanks for the comment here, and for the top notch treatment at the FBO! I'll be back sometime for sure. Best, Martin

[@bkrichmd]

Biz Jet is the FBO I stop at too. KDAL is my alternate for KADS if the weather is low because it's 200 ft lower. Btw, she's the fast controller in Dallas.

[@martinpauly]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who was listening to her, thinking "wow, that's fast!" :-) - Martin

[@billnicholson2470]

Crazy times indeed. Nice approach, great scenery. Thanks for sharing. Also why are the yokes different color? Is that standard or has one been replaced or painted? Stay safe and healthy Martin. Really enjoy your videos.

[@martinpauly]

The left one is my yoke. The right one belongs to the dual yoke setup I have temporarily. - Martin

[@brettwest549]

Martin, great video as always. As wake turbulence encounters go, thankfully this one didn’t seem too bad, at least from the video perspective, but I’m sure it felt a lot worse from your seat! Question, how do you get your ForeFlight audio into your video recordings? Is it a separate audio track from the intercom audio?

[@martinpauly]

Yes, the camera cannot convey what I felt at the time when the airplane suddenly rolled to the left. You can see in the video how I immediately move the aileron, even before I look outside (I was checking the landing gear indicator at that moment). It was manageable, but certainly got my full attention. Best, Martin

[@space1commander]

Thank You Martin for another great Video. And I wonder if We can use the same method that the firefighters use fighting fire with fire, I wonder if We can fight the Corona with Coronas:).

[@martinpauly]

It's worth a try, I think :-) - Martin

[@EduardoGarciaKodiak]

Hi Martin. Very good video as always. The front camera is very good. The colors and sharp image are incredible. What brand and model it is? Tanks.

[@martinpauly]

Hi Eduardo, thank you for noticing. I made two changes for the front camera recently: upgraded from a Hero5 to a Hero8, and I no longer use the ND filter (prop filter). The Hero8 makes the propeller look better (still not perfect, of course) without an ND filter, and overall the image is much sharper as a result. Big improvement. Best regards, Martin

[@RubenKelevra]

@@martinpauly do you use the build in stabilization or do you ReelSteady Go? 🤔

[@martinpauly]

@@RubenKelevra Neither. The camera is simply mounted on a very sturdy suction cup. - Martin

[@RubenKelevra]

@@martinpauly at 22:12 there's some kind of stabilization ongoing, that's why I've asked :)

[@donemory7459]

Great flight Martin...I liked the way you set up your flight plan as well as the Arrival & Approach. Being an owner myself, I enjoy you showing your experience with the Avidyne. I have a question on the Avidyne you might be able to answer. On the MAP page with the Datablock tab showing only, is their another way to display Datablocks, (maybe knob push/twist), in the MAP page without touching the screen to display?

[@martinpauly]

Hi Don, I did not know the answer, but saw your question was answered on the Avidyne FaceBook group (hold the MAP button). I hope that works? Best regards, Martin

[@PromoJetAus]

Hi Great video with lots of cameras. It would be interesting to know how you have setup your studio in cockpit. Plus how did u record the ipad for overlay?

[@martinpauly]

Start here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpWwiXtqa8ujjNE After that, if you have any questions, let me know. - Martin

[@jimtorley70]

Another great video with excellent annotation! Your comment about GPSS indicates that is an upgrade to come ...soon??

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Jim. There are no concrete upgrade plans for an EFIS at this time - not because I don't want one, but because the piggy bank is empty from the engine I ordered from Continental. Upgrading to an IO550; they are saying 'May', but who knows in these difficult times when things will really happen. One day I'll get an EFIS and GPSS, but until then I'll enjoy flying with my six pack. Best, Martin

[@jimtorley70]

@@martinpauly Martin, I understand totally! I just HAD to replace the engine in my Arrow (Lyc IO-360) that was unexpected. Hence my autopilot upgrades are put off for a LONG time!! Cheers! Jim

[@mikemccarron1162]

Great job pointing out the wake turbulence, can quit flying plane until its over, thanks. Was there any fee for landing or just to get fuel.

[@martinpauly]

Hi Mike, yes, I got an additional invoice in the mail for $23.60 landing fee. The letter arrived in my mailbox the day after I posted the video. :-) - Martin

[@turninmonyin2noise978]

One has to wonder what you received for your $20.00 TSA FEE (read TAX) and yes your not done flying till it's tied down. You have a really good Channel.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you for the kind words. And I think you re on the right track with the word "tax". :-) - Martin

[@mrbob92679]

Martín, thats pretty amazing that it stayed on the ground that long. Staying on top of the plane sure pays off. I have a question, is this plane you have two yokes, when you flew with capitan Joe you had a single yoke 🤔

[@martinpauly]

I had borrowed a dual yoke from a friend for a few months while training for my commercial certificate in my Bonanza. Now I'm back to the single, thow-over yoke. - Martin

[@par5eagles975]

Great video as always. A question - what do you think of the glide range rings on foreflight? Just wondering if you have them turned off b/c they are unreliable. No information is better than bad information. stay safe!

[@martinpauly]

I have looked at them briefly, but not enough to understand if they are useful or not. - Martin

[@par5eagles975]

@@martinpauly ok, cool!

[@TroyWhistman]

Great video, Martin. Another Class B in your pocket! Did you forget to check in with ground on .75 as instructed, or was that edited out? Sounded like you were still with tower all the way to Business Jet. Welcome to my neck of the woods! I was in Dan's studio Sunday AM for the episode with Larry Johnson and others on airport emergencies (Larry is my neighbor), so missed you once again!! Bryan Turner is a close friend, we'll connect one of these days!

[@martinpauly]

Hi Troy, Tower changed her mind - first told me to contact Ground, but after finding out where I was going (read: how short and simple the taxi would be) told me to stay with her. Sorry I missed you on Sunday at the studio. I'll try to make it back sometime, assuming Dan and Christy invite me back :-) - Martin

[@billkline4077]

Did you get a new main camera? very sharp great views

[@martinpauly]

Thanks, Bill. Yes, it's a GoPro Hero8, and I run it without an ND filter (prop filter). Very sharp image. - Martin

[@millmasterfirearms8509]

Hi Martin. I really enjoy your videos. I’m considering a bonanza and wanted to know what are your favorite years of the A36? Thanks, James

[@martinpauly]

Hello! My favorite model years for A36 are 1979-83. In 1978 (that's what I have), Beech switched from 14V to 28V for the electrical system. In 1979 they extended the baggage compartment. Then in 1984, they made significant changes by adding a true dual yoke (no more option to have the throw-over yoke, which I like a lot) and brought in the bigger engine (IO-550). 1979-1983 have great useful load. - Martin

[@millmasterfirearms8509]

Martin Pauly Thank you. Great info! Blue skies and smooth rides 😎

[@kennymcwilliams8972]

Beautiful flying day! Thank you Martin. Are these junkets for business or pleasure? If the Love stop was so brief, why did you not one leg to Fort Worth? Or did you stop at Love for a pin on your map? Cheers, Kenny

[@martinpauly]

It was a beautiful flying day indeed, Kenny! The reason for stopping at Love was, as you guessed, just to land at another Class Bravo airport. On my bucket list is to fly to all of the Class Bravos in the lower 48. I'm about one third done! :-) Best regards, Martin

[@kennymcwilliams8972]

@@martinpauly Perfect! If you ever have a few minutes (I have more than I would like now that I am forced to stay home) I would like to pick your brain a bit on the Avidyne. My direct email is [e-mail] if you are amenable.

[@davidrelite6239]

As usual, a great lesson... You should be required viewing. Loved the "woops" moment.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, David. Surprises can happen, all the way to engine shutdown. Let's all stay alert. Best, Martin

[@billr8667]

Thanks for posting. Were you able to queue up both tower AND ground while still talking with approach?

[@martinpauly]

Hi Bill, I think I was only listening to one of them (Approach first, then Tower) at a time. Can you point me at a time stamp that makes you think otherwise, so I understand your question better? I never did get transferred over to Ground in the end, stayed with Tower to parking instead. Best regards, Martin

[@billr8667]

@@martinpauly it was at 17:45. Upon viewing it again, I see that you were tuning those frequencies into the lowere radio (COM 2?). You were still talking to approach on COM 1. The next generation of these boxes will likely queue up all frequencies in the order expected based on the approach, although some suppliers probably already offer that.

[@edperrey1222]

Martin, Thanks for the video. I'm curious, do know how much time elapsed between when you were cleared to land with traffic on short final and when you crossed the threshold? I tried to time it in the video, but it appears there may have been a film edit.

[@martinpauly]

It was between two and three minutes. I would say the problem was not the time, but the fact that DAL was landing with a tailwind. Had this been into a headwind, there would have been no chance of any wake remaining over the touchdown zone. - Martin

[@edperrey1222]

Martin, thanks for the response and clarification! Safe flying!!

[@Cousin.]

You know, I was just thinking that the 6 1/2+ kt. tailwind you had during landing, is what pushed the Vortices forward down the runway. That's why you encountered them where you usually wouldn't have. So if you're landing with a decent tailwind, especially behind a large aircraft, keep a heads up that landing just past where he touched down might not do it.

[@martinpauly]

Right - it's the textbook FAA question, also covered in the knowledge test: a light quartering tail makes wake turbulence especially likely over the runway. Best, Martin

[@albriseno2428]

Great video Martin! How are you getting Foreflight audio on the video? I can't get my iPad to link to Bluetooth on the headset.

[@martinpauly]

Thank you, Al. I record the iPad screen and audio through HDMI, into a solid state video recorder. Funny thing is, I don't actually hear the ForeFlight audio in flight; instead I hear the Avidyne IFD audio which is harder to capture for the videos. Best regards, Martin

[@albriseno2428]

Martin Pauly thanks. I am beginning to record my flights and want to capture ATC and ForeFlight audio.

[@martinpauly]

@@albriseno2428 Al, the two gadgets I use to record my iPad are: www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicvideoassist www.apple.com/shop/product/MD826AM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter A bit of an investment, but the results and the ease of use justify the expense in my opinion. - Martin

[@RubenKelevra]

Have you had a look at the water surface in front of the airfield, to see if the camera picked up the wake turbulences? :) Really interesting video, but this approach looked pretty low to me in the first place. Or is just the camera perspective different this time?

[@martinpauly]

The glide path looked fairly normal to me, Ruben. And the water looked smooth. - Martin

[@RubenKelevra]

@@martinpauly okay :)

[@johnsdsl]

Is it possible that you experienced a wind gust, rather than wake? The wind was from 290, so wake vortices would have been blown off to your left. Something lifted up your right wing and with the wind from the right, I would suspect that. I guess I'd want to look at the weight of the previous jet and the exact time interval. A well-done video in either case and you're right, HIBIL should be pronounced as you did, under normal rules of English.

[@martinpauly]

Hi John. I cannot say with certainty that it wasn't a wind gust, but I don't believe so. This was not a windy day at all, let alone a gusty day - it was fairly calm all the way in. There was a light, slightly quartering tailing (from 290 for runway 13L) - textbook conditions for having a wake somewhat stationary over the runway. Thanks for your feedback, and the exact pronunciation of all the STARs and SIDs and intersections will forever be a mystery to me. :-) Best regards, Martin

[@5128goldenrod]

Fly it all the way to the ramp!. I am still getting to know my 78 A36.....100 hr engine SMOH, Gamis....but it seems to take me 2 rotations too many to start. I notice yours leaps into life. I do fuel pump to peak, it wiggles for a brief second, then a second then off... back and 3 half turns per the POH......what is your normal start recipe?

[@martinpauly]

Try a little less fuel - turn off the fuel pump the moment the fuel flow/pressure gauge peaks. Most people seem to use more fuel than needed for priming. - Martin

[@jalensi1978]

Fort Worth Center controller sounds like Brian from Just Plane Silly..... Is that his day job??

[@martinpauly]

No, I can say with certainty that Bryan (JustPlanSilly) is NOT an air traffic controller in his day job. - Martin

[@donjohnston3776]

Noticed at 25:10 that Foreflight shows GPS altitude of 399' while the field diagram shows 487' with FF accuracy of 4 metres. What gives?

[@martinpauly]

Good question - I can't say for sure why there is such a difference. Love Field is very flat, so there are no big differences in elevation from one survey spot to another - maybe just a few feet. A little bit of delta might come from the difference between the WGS84 model used by GPS and the real shape of the earth. But neither of these explain an 80 foot difference. Anybody here have a good explanation? - Martin

[@donjohnston3776]

@@martinpauly What I saw on your tablet had me wondering how the new Garmin emergency landing system would handle things (or not)?

[@martinpauly]

@@donjohnston3776 Don, to my knowledge, Garmin's "Safe Return" emergency landing system uses a radio altimeter to determine height above ground for the flare and touchdown - as do large transport-category airplanes with full CAT III auto land systems. - Martin

[@noyfub]

I got slammed onto the runway from about 10' landing behind a DC-10 on 13R years ago.

[@martinpauly]

Yes, the energy from those wakes is enormous. I try to get a good mental picture of where the wakes develop and which way they are moving; on this particular flight I must admit I neglected this task. - Martin

[@tedtriche407]

Why land at Dallas/Love for such a short time rather direct to Meacham less than an hour away?

[@martinpauly]

No practical reason, Ted - I did it simply because it is a personal goal for myself to land at all the busy airports in Class Bravo airspace in the US sometime. I had already been to DFW in the past, so this time I went to Love. Regards, Martin

[@tedtriche407]

@@martinpauly Thanks for sharing.

[@josephlewis2617]

Where can I get those non intrusive headphones?

[@LimeyTX]

Right up front I want to state that this comment is based on hindsight and is intended only to provoke intelligent discussion! Conventional wisdom is to stay above the glide path when following a heavy airplane and to land long. On reflection, this sound advice is based on the notion that we typically land into a headwind. Your landing was on 13L with the last reported wind 300/7. That is almost a direct tailwind. The wake turbulence comes from the wing tips while generating lift, so clearly touching down beyond the prior plane's touchdown point makes sense. But with a tailwind the vortexes will be blown further down the runway which is what happened to you. I wonder if we need to rethink conventional wisdom in the case of a tailwind!

[@martinpauly]

Hi Martin, Yes, you understand it correctly. Landing into a headwind, as we normally do, just fly above the glide path of the jet and touch down after its touchdown point - and things will be good. With a tailwind, it's not so easy, for the reasons you mentioned. Best regards, Martin

[@wavellwilliamsjr7111]

@@martinpauly and LimeyTX, learned quite a bit from this exchange. Thanks mates.

[@ethanevans7035]

what headset are you using?

[@martinpauly]

Hi Ethan, the headset I use is called "Halo", made by "QuietTechnologies". It's very light weight and works without any pressure on the ears. Not everyone likes the foam plugs, but they've been working great for me. Best, Martin

[@ThatWasLoud]

Was there no landing fee?

[@martinpauly]

There WAS a landing fee; however, it doesn't get collected by the FBO. Instead, a few weeks later you get a letter in the mail with an invoice. $22 or so in my case, and I got the letter the day after I posted the video. - Martin

[@victorpalamar8769]

Uphill both ways?

[@martinpauly]

I guess, yes! :-) Good analogy! - Martin

[@gtr1952]

I thought they talked slower in TX? Didn't even hear a 'ya'll'. LOL 8)

[@martinpauly]

Funny! :-) But I had been warned ahead of time of fast-paced ATC transmissions in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. - Martin

[@scarter176]

Good fuel price there

[@martinpauly]

Yes, really not bad by big airport standards, Steve. - Martin

[@Marty2Man]

Crew car was ancient?

[@martinpauly]

Hi Frank, I'm scratching my head what your comment is referring to in this video - is it the comment I left on airnav.com for Muskogee? Yes, that car was very old, and not at all representative of the otherwise excellent experience at the FBO in Muskogee. Is that what you meant? Best regards, Martin

[@Marty2Man]

@@martinpauly - that's the reference.

[@Kaipeternicolas]

Martin du bist du sicher auch ein deutscher Auswanderer oder?

[@martinpauly]

Genau - ich bin 1998 in the USA gekommen und lebe seither in Cedar Rapids. - Martin

[@Kaipeternicolas]

@@martinpauly haha habe ich den minimalen Akzent doch richtig raus gehört. Das freut mich. Ich bin seit 2006 im Raum LA. Tolle Videos! Sind wirklich super interessant!

[@pilot-plane-coffee1678]

Love your work Martin, check out my vid on turbulence during a flight I just did from Toronto to Santa Fe; I can relate!!

[@victorpalamar8769]

The Correct action when there MAY BE wake turbulence is to LAND LONG therefore negating the wake turbulence.

[@martinpauly]

Yes, that is correct, Victor. It gets more difficult, though, when landing with a tailwind, as was the case here. Regards, Martin

[@Acc0rd79]

23:10 for Wake Turbulence. I ran into this last week while flying a Mooney getting my complex. We were midair maybe 4 miles from the airport and we crossed behind a smaller jet that was landing in front of us. I controlled it but the instructor was a bit worried at first and I laughed once we figured out it was all good. I said well I had to make sure to give you a bit of a scare to wake you up this morning:)

[@martinpauly]

It can be a big, sudden surprise, for sure! - Martin

[@rodgerhatfield3068]

Looks more like your glance to the right just as you were landing initiated the roll not wake

[@martinpauly]

Hi Rodger, I thought about that, as well as a plain simple wind gust. But in the end, I get back to wake turbulence. You are correctly observing that my head is moving to the right, to check the landing gear, just as the airplane rolls to the left. If you look closely, there is no aileron movement which explains this roll. Nor were there any wind gusts, or any strong wind for that matter. What there WAS was a light, slightly quartering tailing (from 290 for runway 13L) - textbook conditions for having a wake somewhat stationary over the runway. I cannot say with absolute certainty that that is what it was, but it is the most plausible explanation in my mind. Best regards, Martin

[@jonathanfriedman8343]

Wake turbulence? I don't think so.

[@autonomous_collective]

Watch his eyes, its NOT wake turbulence.

[@martinpauly]

Watch the ailerons, too. :-) - Martin