Wales Romped By France In The 6 Nations Opener

I react to welsh rugby’s massive defeat to France 43-0 In the six Nations

[@zatodespentes]

I Remember a time, not so far, when our wales friends Crushed our French Rugby team. I hope wales team comes back soon at his best level. We ' ve been through that and we know how hard it is. You have all my sympathethy

[@pchauvin]

Salutations from Paris.Keep you mind, keep you hope. As a child, my worst fear was to see the red suits all over the terrain. You wiil be back.

[@oliviermancy4676]

Because i'm in my 60's, 'cause I'm french, 'cause I discovered rugby watching it on a 70's brand new colour-tv in those cold winters at my grand-aunt's with all those cousins playing it in western Paris clubs while I was an expat's son obsessed by football in Spain, 'cause I stopped watching football, 'cause JPR WILLIAMS became the master of our defeats, 'cause Wales had me loving the game even when defeated (so often). I love the welsh dedication to Rugby. I'm sorry for Wales 'cause its my 'rugby mother nation'! You'll do much better sooner than later. Believe it!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Thank you my friend. Good luck with the rest of the tournament🇫🇷

[@xxwales15xx33]

I see a great group of lads being catastrophically let down by the coaches and directors of the WRU. The attack was poor under King but atleast we scored tries. But now with the donkey Howley back we're somehow twice as worse and the players looked like they never played a game of rugby in their life! 😂 Also the experiment with Thomas at 10 clearly didnt work last year so why Gatland persisted with it is mind-boggling! Watkins and Tompkins, another combination that clearly wasn't working last year, gatlands solution? Try it again 🫣 Adams Jones has been here for less than 2 weeks and you can already see the contribution he's made to the scrumaging (albiet the referee with absolutely rubbish and gave France everything). Bottom line is that it'll keep getting worse if we stick and Gats and Howley. Also I really dont understand how people keep saying these players aren't good or big enough. Just like Australia, South Africa and even Fiji last autumn, all of France's points were scored through the back of our mistakes. Our work rate and attitude was the only shining light we had but were very quickly let down by the Ill-discipline in defence and awful decisions/basic handling errors in attack. These guys are scoring great trys week in week out for Cardiff/Ospreys/Scarlets and their English clubs but throw them together for Wales and its like they forget what a rugby ball looks like? If this doesn't make the problem any more obvious than it already is then we're totally doomed!

[@jeffrichards3566]

Well said

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Sooooo spot on with everything you’ve said. You see players like Tomos ripping up the prem every week then comes to Wales and is a shell of a player Your point about A.Jones contribution is spot on too. Just shows how much of a change a new set of attitudes and ideas can make and how quick things can improve. The people online saying Gats needs time baffles me

[@ConnorJ_2407]

@@xxwales15xx33 Adam Jones for head coach 😂 can't get any worse can it

[@jeffrichards3566]

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast In complete agreement Time what time Implementation of an idea ? Professional players With supposedly a great set up Potentially over coaching? There's a thought Play what's in front of you Have a go What have you got to lose ?

[@stephenduncan7140]

I feel your pain, being a scotland fan, been there. But you do have some class players, jac morgan, tommy reffel, will rowlands to name a few. Itll take a lot of work to sort , but it'll come eventually.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Cheers Steph. Hopefully a new coaching set up can start getting a tune out of these guys once Gats had gone. Good luck with the rest of the comp 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@martiefabrice1548]

Dans les années 2010 la France a connu une période difficile, mais nous avons remonté la pente. Le sport c'est aussi des cycles. Nous espérons que le rugby Gallois brillera de nouveau. Peut-être le moment de reconstruire, cela peut prendre du temps, mais il n'y a pas de raison que les gallois redeviennent une grosse équipe du tournoi.

[@David-i4r1i]

Pat Lamb, for the next head coach.

[@garethdavies9881]

I don’t understand how anyone can defend the coaches! Australia and Italy in the last World Cup were dreadful, both sacked their coaches and you can see the improvement. Nobody can tell me their squads are any better than ours, our coaches are outdated and have not moved on in terms of the game at all. They all have to go and we need new younger fresh coaches and I’d put money on it we would improve. There’s not a team in the world in any sport that would continue with the coaches we have with their record it just would not happen. It’s beyond all jokes now.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah very well said mate 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@Impl0ze93]

Cool vid. Outsider point of view, just like France and England were, Wales is in a very low state. It happens, to be at that low, other teams bounced back. Wales will too, it will ask work but of course it's doable for Wales. Things will get better!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Thanks mate. Always good to get a view from outside of the Welsh goldfish bowl🤙🏼

[@manukeo5498]

J'ai trouvé les gallois très valeureux, ils ont tenté des choses, très bien démarré le match, mais notre défense était bien en place. Courage à nos amis Gallois, qui sauront revenir au + haut niveau.

[@Blacksheeps4929]

Merci mon ami Francais

[@adrianlloyd5234]

Hi Christian great review as usual mate. There has to be fallout from this shambles, I really can’t say much as we are just rehashing the same problems

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Very true mate, feels like ground hog day making the videos atm 🥹🥹

[@jacoblewis8999]

Your point on describing the welsh attack/offense is the best ive seen on youtube/podcasts. This is the key flaw to this coaching staff that no one talks about!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Cheers Jacob I Appreciate that mate. Hopefully things get addressed in the week 😬

[@garethrichmond4388]

Yep that hurt. Positives are scrum was much better. Morgan is class. That is all

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Agreed 🥹

[@yveslaffont726]

Je comprends complètement ta peine. Je pense que le système de jeu Gallois est aujourd'hui devenu trop stéréotypé pour pouvoir surprendre. Alors que vous avez des joueurs capables de créer de l'incertitude dans les défenses, c'est dommage de les voir répéter des combinaisons connues, attendues et finalement assez stériles. C'est probablement un passage compliqué que va traverser le rugby gallois et j'imagine très bien la douleur de cela puisque la France a connu un déclassement sans doute mérité de son rugby pendant près de 10 ans. Une éternité... Il nous a fallu repenser notre rugby. Et ça a pris du temps... Peut-être était-ce un mal nécessaire? Je ne doute pas que le Pays de Galles va être capable de reconstruire des lendemains qui chantent pour son rugby. D"ailleurs au delà des nations, en tant qu'amateurs de ce sport, nous le souhaitons tous.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Thank you my friend good luck with the rest of the competition🇫🇷

[@khaelamensha3624]

Success in sport is circling. Remember my favorite matches in the 70s were Wales - France, always respected the grinta, the spirit of Wales team, not the other do not have spirit too. My grandfather was a miner so perhaps there a little thing that attached me with Wales, like the Auld Alliance with Scots or the fans and music with Irish and cooking with Italians😉

[@HelixEvo-0]

It’s alright. “WRU unveils new 'streamlined' executive team” This will sort it all 😂😂😂

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

😂😂👏🏼👏🏼

[@RRTNZ]

Mae'r gair Gymraeg ddoe, oedd "poenus" achos roedd e'n poenus iawn i wylio'r gem 'na. Full credit to France, who looked in top form, but we didnt provide them with much of a challenge. Honestly, it shows the impact of a having a world class 10 vs a very inexperienced one ( although Thomas still played better than Sam Costelow). We have a shot at redemption next week, hopefully the bois will rise to the occasion- otherwise its the wooden spoon again.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I guess a win next week will right the wrongs on yesterday but you’re right it was a very painful watch indeed 😬

[@gt2745]

This fella is depressed as hell at the best of times so I knew this video was going to be rough 😄

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Being a Welsh supporter is tough atm 😂

[@pauledwards7340]

Total embarrassment not even to score a point .I got vilified on here weeks ago for slagging our forwards off .Boys against men ! Going backwards no improvements .Gatland and Howley look like Laurel and Hardy a complete comedy duo .Serious questions need to be asked about the coaching at all levels .Sadly I agree with what Richard Cockerill said there should be relegations and promotions from this competition.We are most definitely second tier and at the moment would struggle to beat Georgia or Portugal .France treated it like a training game and toyed with us .We are utter Dogshit !

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Just so frustrating that we never once looked like we had them in trouble. We’ve become accustomed to these performances now but there not acceptable

[@IndridCold.]

It looks like it's between France and Ireland. Wales won't be back until the club level is fixed.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agreed about that 👏🏼

[@stuartkelly3106]

How did Wales get this BAD this quickly. Wales are two tier now, same level as Georgia and Italy. 6 nations need a strong Wales, as an Ireland fan miss our greatest rivals.

[@RollinRoadblock]

Lack of development Very few players are talented

[@Sourdust]

43 isn't the problem. Let's face it, that's at the shallow end of our pre-match nightmares. It's the nil. You can't score nil in an international rugby match. You just can't. If we were looking at something like 58-26, I think we could be philosophical about that. Even if you're Sri Lanka, and they're New Zealand... you can't score nil.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah spot on. Really embarrassing

[@welshed]

It’s actually disgusting to not score a single point at this level. A drop goal, a penalty, there’s multiple ways to score in Rugby.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah, shocking, to be honest, it’s unforgivable

[@garmit61]

I thought Wales generally played well against a much better and more experienced side but as you say we offered very little creativity and were far too predictable,. I texted a mate of mine to say France looked like The Harlem Globetrotters (for those who remember them). They seemed to have so much time when they had the ball whereas Wales rumbled from side to side across the pitch until they lost the ball. We just don't have the Sam Warburton, AWJ or Navidi factor these days, especially without Toby Falatau. We cannot keep trying to p[lay Warrenball without the big guys to gain enough territory. It's looking like another Wooden Spoon to me. We need to learn how to win our own lineouts and change our attack tactics if we are to salvage anything this season.

[@garethdavies4515]

Two players played ok for me Thomas , jack Morgan, and the scrum was better than I thought it would be . After two fazes the players run out of ideas I’m afraid.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah summed up well

[@secondhalfcomeback]

Gareth Thomas, Morgan, Rowlands good. New TH did ok for a first start and Evan Lloyd bright for a first cap. Forwards did ok but still giving away too much size, still not convinced by Daf Jenkins as he seems small for a second row and doesn't impose himself on the game.

[@Reecewgee]

@@secondhalfcomeback regarding Jenkins I think that'll come in time, he isn't much of an enforcer player yet. However he's making 20+ tackles and is 6ft8 so I don't agree entirely but I get your point mate

[@actionjackson493]

Rodgers was exciting, Morgan and Reffell played well and... Thats about it. When Dan Edwards came on, Thomas was still running the game from 12. Why even pick him if that's the game plan. Feel terrible for Watkin, but surely Llewellyn needs calling up now.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agreed. Unless he swallows his pride and gets Anscombe back and Ben to 12 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@actionjackson493]

@TheWelshSportsPodcast Edwards 10 and Thomas 12 can work, but Thomas needs to play as a 12. He was first receiver for most of the game, with Edwards floating around looking for the ball. It was like they couldn't adapt after Watkin went off. But yeah, Anscombe would also be a massive help.

[@Blacksheeps4929]

I thought Nicky Smith did well in scrum. Defense and going forwards

[@eifionlewis7765]

Rogers was our best outside back so tjey subbed him

[@reynaldparisel3852]

Et le pire dans tout ça, c'est que les Français ont mal joué... Vraiment désolé que le Pays de Galles (ex grande nation du rugby) ait juste servi de "sparring partner". Courage à vous les Gallois !

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Thank you my friend. You guys were awesome without getting out of 3rd gear. Good luck for the rest of the tournament 🇫🇷

[@marcsole4261]

Les français n'ont pas bien joué car les gallois ont été très vaillants ils ne leur manquent qu'un ou deux joueurs avec un peu d'intelligence de jeu comme Dupont ou Ramos.

[@Everhardjones]

I'm a proud Welsh man and last night was the first time in my 65 years that I didn't watch the game when I saw the team I just new what the score was going to be like and unfortunately I was right , I don't know what we are going to do because we are not waking up to the fact that the boys their bringing through are just not big enough, our captain we are told is world class when the reality is he's just not big enough and we are being smashed at the breakdown and apart from Botham theirs no dogs in the pack ,I was happy that they brought back gatland but now I think he has to go along with his coaching staff It's just not good enough, The boys should be made to swim home

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Sad to hear that you’re not switching on after supporting all these years. The WRU really have a lot to answer for

[@Reecewgee]

Oh boy... Many a beer has been consumed since that performance... Terrific effort from the players in defence but no attack just side to side, Ben Youngs was spot on when he said that the attacking shapes were easy to read, predictable and showed naïveté... I think we just really need a different set of tactics, every time we get the ball it's like we dunno what to do or where to go. I don't think this is an individual player issue even though we're inexperienced and poor on metres after contact, there's just no inspiration in attack. Very depressing indeed

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah well put mate. Depressing indeed. Can’t see a change until we have some fresh coaches with now ideas

[@Derrick-r3c]

Terrific in defence !!!??? What defence? It leaked 43 points and no defence on the left wing wher the tries were scored. A joke?

[@Reecewgee]

@@Derrick-r3c terrific effort not terrific as such. We were outmuscled but tackle count and completion was pretty high. They knackered us out.

[@johnhill7010]

Hi Christian, I said I would watch the game from behind the sofa, I won’t be doing that again because every time I looked over it bloody France scored, cheers John

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

😂😂

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Maybe just stay behind it for the next game 😂

[@johnhill7010]

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast yes I think I’ll sit in a darkened room with a whisky and think of my hero’s Gareth JPR Phil JJ, Barry Gerald and the rest, sadly most of them no more 😢

[@astraydhurion7697]

The coach needs to go. He doesn't bring anything to the table. He's simply unable to reinvent a way to play with the players available. 14 games is a decent time to prove oneself.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I really don’t get when people are Saying give him time 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kelbatt7729]

Mate this is pro rugby- should have been gone 6 losses ago...

[@levigriffiths8213]

Italy game is huge now lose that and I don’t see where we go from here. Another winless campaign I wonder if there will be calls to replace wales with Georgia? Like what Italy have to put up with every year. Liam Williams-33 Nick Tompkins- 29 Owen watkin-28 Tomas Williams-30 Will rowlands-33 Henry Thomas-33 Gareth thomas-31 Josh Adams- 29 Elliot Dee-30 We need to stop buying the young side narrative from Gatland.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Spot on mate. It’s Bs the amount of people praising Gatland online today is unbelievable. Are we in the Twilight zone?

[@cella6495]

Mate. I just think Gatland has to go. He is 60 years old and only Eddie Jones is older than him. He does not look enthusiastic about coaching Wales at all. I watched him in the post match interview and i just don't see him doing anything. Because for me he really doesn't care. There should be progress by now from last year. I bet you the right coach can get these boys to perform. I don't buy this story of Wales not being good or having any good players. There is plenty of good players and Welsh teams has some of the best set plays i have ever seen. If Aus can turn it around so can Wales.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah, I couldn’t agree. You’ve seen in the press conference that we made opportunities and we were a little bit unlucky. It’s like come on mate we’re not blind😂

[@cella6495]

​@@TheWelshSportsPodcastI would rather see Wales with Rob Howley as coach or Franco Smith from Glasgow. Maybe Matt Proudfoot for a scrum coach and Felix Jones as defence and attack coach. Gatland has been there 14 years and Wales has been down that road. time for a change.

[@stubrooks2667]

We just don’t have the tools to compete at this level anymore. We were blessed with a golden generation from 2005 and 2019 and we stuck with them for too long. I can’t see wales improving until at least another generation of players matures - that could be in 10 years time or more. Gatland probably will go after this but i can’t see or think of anyone who would want the job under the current circumstances!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

I agree, we don’t have the player base that we had before but I just can’t see him getting anything out of these players they’re getting worse not better and no matter who the coaches that shouldn’t be happening

[@cella6495]

I don't agree with you. I see many good players in Wales.

[@francoism.S106]

France also had its own bad period, between 2012 et 2019… our chance is that our national league made some significative changes, such as JIFF (Joueur Issu de la Formation Française, Player coming from French training) : each Top14 club has to have at least 15 JIFF players on the match sheet… it reinforce the French rugby school at all levels.

[@pauledwards7340]

@@cella6495where are these players not in the regions !

[@timbiggs1971]

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast That's the most worrying fact that no one seems to be picking up on. In the last 6N, whitewash though it was, we were actually fairly competitive in every match (well, ish) and should have beaten Eng. We were competitive vs Aus down there too (and should have won one if not both tests), but then, come the Autumn, when we think there'll be some marked improvement, it's the opposite, and now we seem to be falling deeper and deeper into the abyss, with one massive defeat after another (Aus then SA now Fra). So not only are we NOT improving from a very low base, we are actually getting worse (as hard as that is to imagine, the current coaching setup is managing it). I'm afraid we will lose to Ita (and I fear it'll be by 10pts+) and it will be another whitewash and wooden spoon, so we have to say thank you to Gats for the good times and bring in a new coaching team asap (if the WRU had any nous they'd already been longlisting potential replacements but what's the chances of them doing anything proactive?!). In spite of the utter shambles that is Welsh rugby, we have to believe that a new setup can do something with the player base to make us more cohesive, imaginative, and ultimately more competitive, and perhaps even start picking up the odd home win. As an aside, I'm afraid I have stopped watching Wales - I think you must be a masochist to do otherwise.

[@hyllaf]

and to think the stick Gwyn Jones got for calling out Gatland a long time ago, when nobody else did

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

👀👀

[@almcdonald8676]

When I was at college I knocked around with some of the lads from Trefforest and Ponty and I came away with the conclusion that the Welsh are the most instinctive northern hemisphered rugby nation. I’ve watched a 16 year old slot goals from the opposition 22. What’s happened to Welsh rugby is a tragedy and 100% down to mismanagement.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah mismanagement from the top for the last 15 years. Frustrating

[@them1stocles]

Not suprised at the result but i’m a bit tired of being gaslit about what is right in front of all of us. Yes France are a cut above, but proffesional sides can & do score against them. Yes there were positives, in the same way that a car crash you could say the breaks helped avoid a bigger disaster. Yes the WRU are having issues, so have most other unions but the teams haven’t bottomed out. Yes the regions have issues, so do zebra & benetton, and scottish regions in the past but i don’t feel it got to thos point (only when Italy joined) We lost 43-0, we have better players than this, not at French level, but enough to better. Others things are needed but so is a new coaching setup. Until then i fully expect us to continue with these horrid perfomances.

[@discobiscuit6959]

I don’t know how Howley can keep stealing a wage at this point, calls himself an attack coach yet where was our attack, we are so slow at the breakdown it was a cake walk for France to defend. I didn’t think it was possible but we’ve gone back another 10 steps since the autumn 😂.

[@jiffy23]

Or Ford.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

The most bland blunt attack coach in the history of the game

[@discobiscuit6959]

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast spot on mate, completely devoid of any spark or creativity

[@Cymrumush]

Atleast we'll win the wooden spoon

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

😬😬😬

[@David-i4r1i]

Absolutely no penatration, in mid - field. Drop Josh Adams and Liam Williams, even if it means blooding new young players. I seriously think, that we haven't got a hope, against any of the remaining teams.

[@chompy63ify]

Forwards could not have done any more! Line out improved, scrum has hugely improved. They got plenty of clean ball and fronted up with the French forwards! Maul defence was particularly impressive with French backs in there as well imo. Problem was the backs and attack. The backs let the forwards down by not producing a bean!!

[@eazyollie9370]

Even as an Englishman, I feel bad for you 😅 Agreed no improvement at all, Wales actually had a reasonable amount of ball to end up not scoring. I'd always be one to usually defend Gats but it feels like a lot of this is on him. Genuinely now believe with a newer fresher coach that team that was out there last night could have played much better.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

I’ve always been a Gats believer too but at this point we have a year of evidence thy we are going backwards. Always good to get an outside perspective so thanks 🤙🏼

[@Adam-be1zo]

Maybe we need to all stop being negative , if rugby gets more popular in Europe then naturally wales will have to take a backfoot to countries like Italy who have more money and population than us … rugby Isn’t a global sport like football , nz wales countries like that are “top nations” because rugby isn’t that popular globally

[@Howiezat]

This is France away, the hardest game this year. Italy in Rome is a big game now, hopefully they react next week. A few careers on the line you feel.. I see one up runners in midfield, straight to ground and an easy steal. The same happens at lower levels..remember just one inside angle from Tom Rogers and Ben made some metres when at centre. Just lost that rugby instinct at the moment. Wainwright was a huge loss early on. Had enough ball, just no ideas and we are not getting big guys coming through at the moment. Hoping for some uplift in the u20 game.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah well said. Looking forward to the u20s game too. See if they’ve improved since last season

[@jaylevzi7293]

Thomas kicking was good ? Better in centre ? What game did you watch ?

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Bad was it?

[@RollinRoadblock]

The lack of quality players doesnt give wales alot of attacking options. Discipline was a massive issue that kept giving france a platform to attack from.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

It’s a shame mate. We never even threw a punch did we

[@RollinRoadblock]

@TheWelshSportsPodcast Agree, I remember people slating jamie Roberts for being a 1 trick pony. We'd love someone like him now, just to attack the gainline n possibly create front foot ball.

[@paulandrews1763]

I heard a comment saying we were harmless, I think that sums us up. Gatland has to go as has Howley. We might win the Wooden Spoon at best.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yes, a great way to describe it. We don’t seem to cause anyone any problems at all which is a big worry.

[@Derrick-r3c]

The score sums it up - NIL! WHERE WAS THE DEFENCE ON THE LEFT WING?

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@patrickblanchard4575]

La France a fait un match d'entrainement moyen, ils seront nettement plus fort contre les Anglais. Ils vont monter en puissance!. Bravo pour le courage des Gallois

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah you guys didn’t get out of third gear. Make sure you smash the English 😂

[@robertwilliams9234]

The forwards done better than I thought they would the backs were awful especially the centre’s

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agreed. Let’s hope that’s Adams Jones having an impact and not an anomaly 😬

[@olibedford]

Gatland has to go. Not picking Anscombe or Jarrod Evans in the squad is unforgivable. We actually sort the set piece out to some degree and have a 12 at 10 just shifting the ball side ways. Not Ben Thomas’ fault but he should be nowhere near the 10 shirt. Edwards has to start at 10 against Italy with no other fly halves to choose from. As you rightly say Christian, no progress. The rugby is awful to watch and we now expect a hiding every time we play decent opposition.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agree mate. Can’t believe the amount of Gatland defence I’ve been reading online today. It’s actually mind boggling

[@IntoTheBody]

Comments section going off!!!! 🔥🔥

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

We don’t mess around over here

[@arnolddalby5552]

Wales played a losing strategy of kicking the ball to France who love to play with the ball. No wonder Wales got hammered.

[@welshwarrior5263]

Start at the bottom and work their way up to the welsh squad.

[@rhyslaskey3139]

I follow both Welsh rugby and cardiff in the football, and I lost my wallet this weekend too, safe to say, I've had an absolute stinker 43 nil and 7 nil and 200 quid down 😂 if I don't laugh I'll cry

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Jesus mate. That’s a tough day at the office 😂 Surely the only way is up from that point? 😂

[@gallois3]

WRU: start looking for another coaching team NOW. Get Shaun Edwards back, Pat Lam in charge, … and be ready for some good coaches to say no, because who wants that job of a total rebuild? Agree that forwards played their hearts out, but our attacking play … makes you wonder what’s been happening in camp for the last 2 weeks. Siege mentality, Gatland protecting the players from outside, ok, but tactically , omg

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

I think it could be an attractive job after 6N tbh. Yes we’re in a mess but realistically the only way is up from this point 😂

[@cbolt4492]

Cymru are a Tier 2 team now most probably. It's a shame, people in Cymraeg don't seem that interested in the game. The regions don't have supporters at the games 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Howiezat]

Self fulfilling prophecy Bar the Dragons, the regions are in good spots currently considering the resources. Cardiff consistently getting 7-11k which is the going rate Ospreys and Scarlets get poor support considering. A combo of KO times, poor transport to their grounds and apathy in the league itself as there is no jeopardy..would prefer a div 2 league expansion if we are keeping in the URC else Dragons face oblivion as they are rooted to bottom

[@secondhalfcomeback]

No attacking plans at all, no dummy/decoy runners etc just ship one pass and run into someone. Lineout and Scrum ok and the light pack did well (but still need a much bigger pack). Ben Thomas not really a 10 but did his best. Poor skills but clueless with the ball in hand.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah at no point we played right to the line or caused them any issues

[@GWLAD]

Gatlands Methods and Tactics are outdated and stale he needs to be replaced by a new modern competent coach who knows how to get the best out of a smaller stature of players with quick ruck ball and smart running angles and a solid defensive line that will let little or nothing through PAT LAM 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿also trawl the southern hemisphere like Ireland and Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 did even France have south sea islanders playing for them

[@garethrichmond4388]

Need new coaching staff clearly. Gats has clearly lost what he had. Question is who wants the job? Shaun Edward's? Pat Lamb? Mark Jones? Matt Sherratt? Someone anyone who will play players in their actual positions? Id take that at least.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Someone will defo want it. Yeah we’re a mess atm but I think a fresh perspective could get a tune out of these boys. I don’t by the lack of quality argument that some people have been pushing

[@Theredsfamily12345]

We have to stop making excuses and thinking because they worked hard that's enough, that's what playing tor your country should do.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Agreed. And the young native one annoys me too. Loads of those players on Friday were in their 30s

[@HelenGarland-d2q]

We haven't got the players you can't polish a Turd. We are just going to be patient 😢

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

We’re not improving though, and that’s what worries me. We could wait another year with him in charge and will still be in the same position. We are now.

[@danieledwards6974]

Apart from the first 5-10 minutes we were a million miles away. No cutting edge, looked like men vs boys. Don’t see us winning a game this campaign unfortunately 😢

[@kennethjames9416]

France did not get out of second gear,Wales could have played all day and still wouldn't score. They were abysmal.I dont know why some of this squad were picked,there are better in Wales that seem to get ignored!!!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I agree. Can’t tell me max Llewelyn and Anscombe wouldn’t have made that team better on Friday

[@ibramgaunt4548]

RFU didn't met the expectations of Edward last 5 years and he chose to extend his contract with France. Do you think WRU will do better ?

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Probably now. I have no faith in the people running this outfit anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@yantogriffiths7575]

Not all doom and gloom, attack needs major improvements but scrum went well, on par with territory 54/46 and possession of 50/50, line outs went well just score and penalties against us.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah scrum was a marked improvement which is good

[@jiffy23]

The coaches need to go after the tournament, but wanting to lose against Italy or any match is totally stupid.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I agree mate. I never want them to loose a game

[@Sourdust]

Bang on. If you've been a Wales fan long enough, you know that losing never solved anything.

[@geraintlewis8194]

Not a massive fan of the current coaching setup, but fundamentally, players are not good enough.

[@jiffy23]

@geraintlewis8194 obviously the players aren't good enough to be winning the tournament, but I don't think the coaches are getting anywhere near maximum out of the players we have.

[@shinywarm6906]

I predicted 43-15 beforehand. So half-right. I couldnt conceive we wouldnt pick up a few penalty kicks and maybe a driving maul try. But nil??!! Our attacking lines were so weak, we'd have lost ground even if there was no opposing team on the field.

[@actionjackson493]

Also, a word on Ntamack. A proper cheap shot on Ben Thomas at the end. I hope he's banned for weeks.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

I think he will be mate. Tucked arm usually gets dealt with harshly

[@danis-nd1ik]

certainement avec les juges rosbeef !

[@julienriou4511]

we smashed you, keep it low

[@cassandrasmith8576]

Another aspect was that it would have gone unpunished if not for the off field official. The referee did not pick this up😣 - how could he not have … it was so obvious.

[@lr7694_]

With English juges he will only miss next match against England and return on field against Scotland and Ireland

[@clivesilver463]

There is nothing more to be said, other than our attack became so bad in the second half, the players really don't know what to do, they just went backwards. If we attack like that next Saturday we will lose, Wales are very easy to defend against and Italy will do exactly the same spread right across the field and just marshal Wales side to side. The players have lost the ability to win and Italy will know this. I don't blame the coaches for this year's of neglect by the WRU have led this, and players like Thomas and Edwards are not quite ready, their star Will shine but not under Gatland, we will lose next week because there is not enough time to change our attacking shape. Gatland needs to ask himself I'm I doing more harm than good in staying if so then it's time to go.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

More harm in my humble opinion Clive and has been for the last year

[@westy8065]

Think we need to start a proper 10 which unfortunately will be Anscombe and Edward's on the bench with possibly Roberts and Thomas as centres with Murray and Rogers on wings or Mee on wing and Murray at 15 their more natural attacking players

[@Blacksheeps4929]

We all blame Gatland whilst admitting its the WRU s fault. Why pay him off to leave and hire a new coach who will have the same players to deal with. Gatland will bring fitness and discipline which is exactly what young inexperienced players need. He is also a psycologist and will develop these players as well as anyone else. We do need to get over the gainline more in order to be able to attack effectivley and I think Jon humphreys needs to go The Scottish pack improved immediately after his departure. Our forwards standards have been poor since his arrival.. We need a rebuild, I should imagine the WRU know this and would be fools discarding Gatland before 2027 and costing themselves more money. Let him Improve his coaching set up and give him some time with this group . He will get them firing.

[@clivesilver463]

@@Blacksheeps4929 No it not all his fault and what he's done for us is remarkable, but our attack Friday was dreadfull, some of his selection is questionable, Italy looked good against Scotland they have improved, they don't have better quality players than us yet their coach is getting the best out of them Gatland is not, my final point is there has to be a stage where we need a change, we've now lost 13 games how many more can we lose its unrealistic to expect us to lose another 13.

[@Blacksheeps4929]

@clivesilver463 totally get your points and they are all very valid. I can see the benefit of binning howley ( don't even know how he wormed his way back in , " jobs for the boys") plus his attack has never been potent as a coach. and humphreys as we are not dominant up front. Have had set piece issues for years so he needs to go too. I don't see the point in paying gatland off and getting another manager in when the foundations will be the same. These guys are humphs and howley are proof that the WRU still needs a good clean up. Who has allowed these 2 bumbling underperformed clowns to remain in place ??? If Gatland can't see this then he should go. But I don't think this is the case, it's more of a case that his hands are tied. This team need more time together. A new attack coach and a new forwards coach.

[@stephendavies-hale6348]

The scrum was a lot better, Adam Jones has probably had what? Two or Three training sessions… Question is.. why has it taken so long to act on it? It shouldn’t have taken that long to appoint a coach who has knowledge and has proven to be successful.. Some very questionable decisions from the board aswell right the way to Gats and co’s selections.. for example Jarrod Evans, Morgan Morris, Sheedy, Llewellyn… those four players have so much offer how were they not included?! I appreciate this is just my personal opinion and I’m not a coach, just my two pennies.. BUT….. What is happening to my beloved Welsh team, is actually Heartbreaking.. it is our identity.. who we are. Serious questions and get togethers need to happen.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Nah you’re spot on mate. Anyone can see that nothing has worked for the last year plus. I have no idea what’s going on with the coaching stuff and I think the board are too scared to sack for whatever reason. But to me the guy just looks like he’s lost interest and would happily take a severance package to leave

[@stephendavies-hale6348]

@ yeah I think you could be right… I really hope not… Love the channel btw, keep up the good work mate, brighter days to come! 💪 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@phronimos14]

Gatland is a high performance coach. He is use to having top quality choices, and all this chopping and changing squads screams that. That’s a waste of resources that Wales can’t afford. I think Wales need someone much more practical minded. Someone who hasn’t lifted multiple grand slams with them, who can build from the bottom up.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah well said. Couldn’t agree more

[@andrebraga3839]

To be fair, it looked like wales capitulated even before the match, they never thought they can win or at least put a fight, looked more like a mentality problem here , There was sometimes i felt like they weren't playing but just watching, like a child look his star playing, they watched like you would in trainings ground. I know almost nothing about rugby but from my exterior point of view that's what what i felt watchin this.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I think that’s a really good point to be fair. After all the losses how could they think any other way really🥹🥹

[@garethdavies4515]

Different coaches same results same players remember 👍

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Same players with different tactics and ideas 🤔

[@garethdavies4515]

@ don’t know have they got what it takes to, I hope so iv been rong so many times before 😜 👍

[@Andy_John3.3]

Seems to me that Wales are predictable and ponderous. Why oh why can't we pick a 10 or 15 who can boot the ball 50, 60 yards to touch for field position. Trying to rumble up field with forwards who can't dominate is never going to work. Wales are tactically too easy to play against. Yesterday all Wales tried to do was contain and were not there to go at it and try and win. Gatland has removed the old Welsh way of playing with fast off the cuff, unpredictable rugby. We need an innovative coach to make selections that suit our players. Sadly, I don't think those in charge have the guts to make brave calls

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah, I completely agree. I think it’s time for him to go. We’re not going to progress under him and his coach and staff

[@Blacksheeps4929]

Howley is now the attack coach so we will be going backwards for sure. Howley and Humphreys need to go. Gatland needs some new coaches under him

[@trickydickie3095]

Totally agree, I think everyone was to quick in getting rid of pivac tbh at least we did win some games under him when the old guard where starting to retire, we should of give him the World Cup and then made the decision, howley looked ancient in the documentary before the game and so are his tactics, we need to start fresh with the coaches and pick the top performing club players.

[@Reecewgee]

Spot on mate, entirely too predictable and we're trying to play multiphase rumbling up the field as you say; our forwards are comparatively lightweight and can't make nearly enough ground post contact

[@garyt1119]

After considering the possibilities all night, the only thing I can see making a difference, is- bring back Sean Edwards.. it is not only a skill gap but a mindset fail. they are all half a step slower than they should be. Liam willians (as good as he was ) time has gone, bring winnett in and let him develop

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Just makes that decision to leave him out all more perplexing doesn’t it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@montybrewster7]

I was out last night so didn't see the game but i honestly laughed out loud when i saw the score. That is the level i have reached, i expect nothing but defeat from every game. But i didn't expect to be nil’ed! Howley as 'attach coach' is a joke! I can't comment on the game but his attack has always looked toothless & out dated to me. I have no idea where we go from here as i can't see that we have the talent no matter how well they are coached. I thought watching through the 80's was bad but this recent collapse is very alarming. Cheers for trying to make the best of it christian. But what else can you do eh?

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Not a lot we can do except grit teeth and bear through it. This is going to be a long competition hopefully at the end of it we get a fresh coach with some fresh ideas Don’t give up the hope my friend 😂

[@samuelhinton6034]

Think you surmised it well, pretty bleak. Coaches have to be questioned, particularly in regards to selection imo. Why not pick form players? So many people vouching for Morgan Morris, Kieran Williams even someone like Angus O'Brien. Give form players a chance and let them play with freedom. It can't get worse.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah it’s a weird one. Strange how he still hasn’t called up Llewelyn now that Watkin is injured 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@paulhowells9650]

Max Llewellyn in for Owen Watkin ? Tompkins is done in my view .

[@danis-nd1ik]

minable

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Either that or Anscombe I guess. Depends if he wants to start Edwards

[@eifionlewis7765]

Eddie James/Llewelyn combo

[@richardrees3225]

Well well well. Think it is time. The old guard need to go. We played better last year with the youngest. Will Rowlands was 3/10 poor with all in hand. Teddy Williams should of started. Tomos Williams 4/10 kicks were poor and slow ball was shocking. Playing off Ben Thomas when moved to 12 was stupid. Nick Tompkins was so bad. Kept cutting in and leaving so much space obviously not a 13 .. 4/10 . Josh adams was ok. Still not at the level needed unfortunately 5/10 and liam Williams was ok. 5/10 nothing to write home about. Why aren't they picking James Fender/Morgan Morris or Morse. Rueban Morgan-Willaims/Cam Winnett plus others. These guys are the future ... Let them have s good. Ooooo yeah and we need a new coaching team.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Hard to argue with any of that Rich. Well said

[@richardrees3225]

@TheWelshSportsPodcast There's also Taine Basham who has been in awesome form and been part of winning Welsh teams in the past who should be playing .. I'm just don't get what is going thought Garland's mind when pick his squads. There are better players out there and more deserving players that are on form for there clubs and he goes in weird directions and picks random players who either haven't played or a unfit and not in form. I'm done with Gatland and his out of date tactics and squad picking. We need fresh backroom staff with fresh new ideas. Who would you like to see brought in ?

[@Nathan-gn9cy]

I am under no illusions of the state of rugby in wales at the moment from grass routes to international level. Watching pre match build up on itv five minutes pre kick off of Rob Howler essentially saying this current team aren’t good enough for a list of different reason’s boils the blood. Allot of his points are valid, but what kind of confidence are we trying to instil in these player’s?

[@Nathan-gn9cy]

Does this coaching team look like one that couldn’t afford to be sacked post autumn ?

[@Nathan-gn9cy]

Culture surrounding this squad is negative and erratic, giving players mixed signals everywhere. We’ve just seen Adam jones come in part time on a weeks notice and make a solid improvement at scrum time, that’s a coach making the best out of what he’s got. Is this coaching team doing that? I personally don’t thinks so.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

I have no idea Nath. it seems either extremely outdated or just completely incompetent. Part of me wonders if Gardens just trying to get sacked so we can take his severance pay and sign off into the sunset😂😬

[@leighevans8764]

How many times have we seen Wales within ten meters of the opponents line go through twenty plus phases and not cross the line they cant even do it when they are a man up its shocking and on a similar point when a side loses a man it more often than not means an all most guaranteed five points for the other side but Wales tend to end up conseding a score. The other thing which needs looking at is Wale's inability to keep a lead in the dying minutes of a game they just don't have a clue.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah, as soon as they get to the line, they just completely go into the shelves and just go with one of runners. Eventually, then they make a mistake and the opportunity is gone

[@SE7VENprod]

100% withe the depth in attack gettinf hit way behind the gain line because there is no deception in the shape its entirely readable and unlike France we dont have the size or skill to work from that deep. Result was made worse by the fact that it didn't even look like the French team got out of 2nd gear. Also just a lack of direction and discipline makes it so hard to get a sense of excitement.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agreed, they just waited for a mistake and pounced. We’re totally predictable and boring. Coaches have a lot to answer for

[@andrewcottle2899]

Worrying thing is that ireland England game was brutal and France have to go away to both . I don't see France beating either and we ve got those to play . It's going to be a long six nations for Wales.

[@ConnorJ_2407]

I honestly think they didn't focus on attacking play during the build up. Seems like the defence was the focus and hope France give away penalties to give terrority, then when France give away 3 penalties all game you look like boys against men...

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I think that’s a great point. Probably banking on the mail which has been their only weapon for a year

[@fazeobama6606]

thought it was ridiculous that ntmack only got a week ban for his red card when mack hansen got three for a comment in wich he didnt even directly call out the red that game.

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Hi Christian, Well mate what can I say, Er,,,,,,,,, um,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ...................... take care mate, catch you soon.......................

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

😂😂😂👏🏼 Enjoy the other game this weekend is all I can say mate 🤙🏼

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Hi mate, I'll watch the other games, but it's not the same when our home team was battered and the first time we have had a "0" score Have a good week end

[@leighmorgan]

Clearly this Wales side doesn’t want to get hammered by 40 odd points and you don’t want to be to down on them as they are a young side but this Wales team is bloody awful. Dan Biggar and other ex players have been accused of having an agenda . What agenda ? Sometimes you just got to call a spade a spade . I feel for Gatland as he’s on a hiding to nothing . Mid March he will be gone. He simply doesn’t have the calibre of player to deliver . Saying that man management does seem poor. Cam Winnet is a clear example . They persevered with him for 12 months then not even in the squad . Yeah that will help the young kids confidence never mind getting hammered in the red jersey . No shape in attack . Powederpuff defence . Bedwas would push them hard .

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I agree. Boring and no imagination, difficult to watch

[@ChristopherSmith-o5x]

No need to keep Gatland there are loads of expert tacticians on this channel that could just step in and save the day by nextweek.

[@Brucemcleod2345]

I wonder if the WRU can’t afford to sack Gatland. Henry Thomas and Jack Morgan are 2 excellent players but Gatland has run out of ideas. France didn’t look like they got into top gear. Pleased your wife has let you back in the house. Big match for Wales against Italy now.

[@Everhardjones]

Morgan is a good player but he's far too small for test rugby we're getting smashed at the breakdown and we can't get quick ball the lack of weight puts pressure on the scrum , he has to go and people need to wake up or we'll never improve

[@garethrichmond4388]

​@Everhardjones no

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Finally back on the house but I suspect the next one will be from the van. Maybe I’ll put up a nice Welsh flag on the background so you can tell Bruce 😂 Morgan is class and punches well above his weight

[@robhudson3511]

I don’t think it would be a good thing for wales to beat Italy. We can’t win against Italy and say that makes everything OK!

[@jiffy23]

It doesn't, but losing to Italy doesn't make things better.

[@Everhardjones]

​@@jiffy23sorry mate but I agree with him

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Win or loose the coaches need to go at end of the comp

[@robhudson3511]

I don’t want to see Wales lose against Italy, purely for the sake of the boys on the pitch. But I think that the WRU are so desperate to bury their head in the sand, they’ll cling to an Italy result as some kind of affirmation of the coaches😞

[@sailingmrnice]

To be fair you're too young to have lived through the 80s and 90s. This really doesn't feel that bad. Besides the blame lies with the WRU for shafting the academies and paying down the stadium loan instead of investing in the game.

[@hyllaf]

doesn't feel that bad? are you for rea? in both decades, we had lots of world class players. not so much now. This is the worst era, probably in our entire history

[@garethdavies9881]

Doesn’t feel that bad??! It’s the worst we’ve ever been that’s a fact not an opinion. Jeeez what are you watching?

[@davzinzan]

The only positive is Gatland out

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

😂👌🏼

[@davidpearn2484]

Pray tell me who will take charge 🙏.

[@davzinzan]

@@davidpearn2484 Steve Tandy or anyone really

[@davzinzan]

@@davidpearn2484 could hardly do worse

[@davzinzan]

@@davidpearn2484 Mark Jones has had a great start at the Ospreys

[@jemsalmonphotography]

Not powerful enough up front,especially in the carry,no guile behind.....it's going to be a long six nations.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah agreed 😬

[@westy8065]

Morning Christian, got to be fair I'm gutted, was expecting the defeat but after first 20mins I was actually hopeful of at least a point, but when the rugby gods are against you! Refereeing abysmal against us, so many bad decisions! Hopefully that was the last time we see Owen Watkin, made so many handling errors and wrong options! His injury was almost a saving grace (hope it's not too bad tho) Tompkins not much better! unfortunatly we ddnt have the centre cover on the bench! Gatts has to go with a better 12/13 combo, Thomas at 10 ddnt work again! Thought the forewards were better than I've seen for a long time! For me we were overall better than the 43 point loss suggested!

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I think you’re right. I just think it’s the nil is what’s the worst part. Plus we set up to contain and we conceded 40. No idea what the answer is other than fresh ideas at the top 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@westy8065]

@TheWelshSportsPodcast I agree 0 is not a good thing but the kickable penalties we turned down later in game, if they were earlier then we would of had points on board

[@westy8065]

@TheWelshSportsPodcast think what I'm trying to say is if we had kicked a penalty when we were 30 pts down, then to me that is a sign of almost giving up, I know it was bad but at least the players were trying their best

[@richarddykes8550]

Agree with your analysis, and it is now very dispiriting watching Wales play. Agree the front row looked more solid throughout, maybe that was due to the impact of Adam Jones? I would like to see Dan Edwards starting next game and Ben Thomas at centre. There have been so many changes at centre we need to find some consistency in selection. We keep arguing that they are a young side with little experience, but some players are not getting that opportunity to grow. I rate Ben Thomas but play him in his best position. If Adam Jones has made a difference in the scrum in such a short time then why not bring in a new attack coach. I now feel that beating Italy, and that is going to difficult, is now not enough.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yeah I really like your point about Adam. If a new coach can make that much of a difference in a such a short time then why is Gats still in the job 👀 Agreed about your 10-12 choice

[@DeanPike-g1k]

No chance, Henry Thomas been best tight head in Wales all season nothing to do with Adam Jones. Regarding best position for Ben Thomas it would be water boy, at best.

[@mikelewis2286]

James Botham- unlucky as there was clearly a release!

[@fazeobama6606]

every attack was the exact same two pods them out the back howley needs to go and mabey the rest of the coaching team apart from Neil Jenkins I like him. thought jac morgan was the best player on the pitch better tahn than duponts performance, and the front row did okay

[@jeffrichards3566]

Well nearly the 50 I predicted What was it though ? Plenty of other nations have smaller players and still manage to break the gain line and score trys Shocking

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Yes, spot on mate. To me, it just comes down to the coaching.

[@johnnyj-t2e]

not often i'll agree with this commentator , unable to disagree with him on this occasion.

[@TheWelshSportsPodcast]

Thanks 😂

[@isitwasit8756]

Way to much chopping and changing this welsh team plus a mystery why some are not even in the squad. There's zero continuity at all.. howley is in the dark ages as an attack coach and wales looked a team paralysed playing to orders making it way to easy for french defence as wales kept going latteral making no ground.. wales should have mixed it up with pick up and goes around fringes of rucks to commit more french plus lack of chips over top to exploit all the space in behind blue defensive wall which they did on 2 occasions and regathered which bought wales 20 metres to go again.. wales looked like a team in attack playing stictly to orders with not much room for heads up rugby.. that french defence would have been exploited by the likes of a top 10 like neil jenkins who played flat to the line or biggar or a marcus smith for eng who would have chipped over that wall so much more to exploit the space behind.. the effort of those welsh boys can not be in question as they did not drop their heads and i as a welshman will never stop supporting the national team.. the last thing those boys need is a welsh public turning on them cos welsh fans are not about that as ive experienced dark days watching wales before but you always believe the tide will turn even though its painful to watch.. possitives was the scrum considering the reputation and size of french pack.. adam jones been a great asset to that no doubt.. i just dont think gatlands coaching style is suitable for wales or howley.. its all well and good playing multi phase possession but you got to go forward with it not just latteral.. id like to see edwards start at 10 against italy