Hollywood: *shows Constantinople in a medieval peak in 1453 Sack of 1204: Am I a joke to you?
@DavGre2 ай бұрын
I think after 1204, Constantinople became a shadow of its former self, and fractured further over the centuries into smaller towns/municipalities rather than one big city.
@victor382Ай бұрын
BS. 🙄 Placing blame on a specific time it’s really disingenuous. There were plenty of times when Constantinople weakened itself before and after that time.
@michaelsurratt1864Ай бұрын
@@victor382 yeah but the Venetians literally dismantled the empire sacked the city and stole all its riches you act like it was a tiny Civil War or something. They literally never recovered from it that’s why there’s Roman statues in Venice. They weren’t built there. That’s for sure.
@ronb7189Ай бұрын
@@victor382 The sack of the city literally destroyed the central Byzantine government, the Nicaea Empire which succeeded later on was one of the multiple factions that sprang up, attempting to legitimize themselves as the true successor of the Empire now that the central administration was gone. Imagine the American President, most the Senators and the top brass of the army as well as the White house was destroyed and the local governments in California and New York both independently declared themselves as the continuation of the United States government, all the while Chinese troops continued to occupy key areas in the USA including Washington DC and Boston, do you really think the US would ever fully recover from a crisis like this and become the #1 world power again?
@Anton-kf6vd28 күн бұрын
True story. Also in 13-15 AD The Empire is more Hellenic than Roman .
@michaelhall63409 күн бұрын
Humanity is doing that very same thing right now, spiraling down the drain of recycling...
@jasonpalacios13632 ай бұрын
Actually it was a miracle that the ERE lasted as long as it did especially being relevant in the year 1000, the thing is that the ERE lasted so long that it ended exactly 39 years before Christopher Columbus sailed to the Americas, also the fall of Constantinople was the reason why the Spanish Inquisition started, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella threw the last Muslims out of Granada in 1492, The European Colonization came out as a result of this and many refugees from Constantinople left the city to escape Muslim persecution, sailed west to the Italian Peninsula to spread their knowledge there and thus the Renaissance was born.
@DavGre2 ай бұрын
I’d be curious how to square the European response to the 4th crusade against the ERE measures with Europes later response of the Fall of Constantinople. It seems that most of the Europeans kind of pitied the ERE in its final decades.
@JayM4092 ай бұрын
@@DavGre It survived the first, but not the second.
@scorpio89632 ай бұрын
@@DavGreDifference was population replacement and the genocides of the 20th century.
@AlexS-oj8qf2 ай бұрын
@@ClevelandBrown44Yeah I bet you tell yourself that everyday.
@jasonpalacios13632 ай бұрын
@@ClevelandBrown44 Uh what about the Islamic Turks went into Constantinople?
@celdur46352 ай бұрын
50k people for a 1453 is still a massive city. Crazy how it would feel emptish or small compared to its infrastructure.
@flyingisaac21862 ай бұрын
A portion would be now in Galata, the area granted to the Genoese, and if pilgrims from the rest of the Greek Orthodox world (many monasteries and churches) are counted, it would be temporarily much higher. Papal Rome had a population approximating that, albeit the permanent population was probably lower given the aftermath of the Black Death and its many reoccurrences, plus the long term residence of Popes in Avignon (Papal from 1348 to 1791 and an official residence until 1377, exc the Great Schism's claimants). Seasonal agricultural workers might also have boosted the population.
@StonewallSheetr-yo2cb2 ай бұрын
Massive? I think not.
@sarapechivsarik53142 ай бұрын
constantiople was long gone by that time, but interestingly, ther despotate of morea, being an automonous roman province and the center of the greek world at its capital of mystras was thriving, sebestian should talk about the morea, its interesting
@AndreaMoletta-s3cАй бұрын
Wasn't Trebizond the real last Outpost?
@sarapechivsarik5314Ай бұрын
@@AndreaMoletta-s3c yeah but morea was the last direct outpost, trabizond was a remenant of the fourth crusade, but it was roman
@bulumacpaul89172 ай бұрын
Rome started as a collection of villages and ended as a reduced city-state protected by the walls built 1000 years earlier. It refused to die, even as an enclave inside the Ottoman Empire, until the gunpowder revolution.. Thus ending 2200 years of roman cilvilization..
@13141Scott2 ай бұрын
Strangely poetic
@HansBerger-m3d2 ай бұрын
Rome? Constantinopel!
@Maiorianus_Sebastian2 ай бұрын
Indeed, it is a fascinating story. Rome had come, in a sense, full circle, ending where it had started, as a collection of villages, 2200 years after the founding of Rome. An incredible story.
@LondonPower2 ай бұрын
Nothing to do Rome with Constantinople! For the Greeks of Constantinople the Roman's of middle ages in Italy considered BARBARIANS
@HansBerger-m3d2 ай бұрын
@@LondonPower OMG
@ZiggyBoon2 ай бұрын
At its peak around the 9th century Constantinople’s population would’ve been about 800,000, and by 1453 had fallen to maybe less than a tenth of that. Today, Istanbul has something like 16 million people. It’s a city with quite a history.
@fatihonal62732 ай бұрын
Not really, the old city within the city walls has population of about 370.000 today.
@michaelfisher7170Ай бұрын
true. Istanbul does take the title of most populous city in Europe today. Makes you wonder how Constantine would feel if he could see it for a bit. lol. You did well, Princeps. lol.
@kriskris998Ай бұрын
The peak was in 541, and never was more than half million
@randomvintagefilm273Ай бұрын
Islam ruined it
@esters44Ай бұрын
@@randomvintagefilm273 Ha Haa , Yu stupid jealous moron.Get over it,
@Thermopylae20072 ай бұрын
Interesting video. It reminds me of the last time I drove through Detroit, which still has some impressive buildings, but also some very desolate stretches.
@godsowndrunk11182 ай бұрын
I was thinking about Detroit while watching this, too....
@JohnDoe-qv3rf2 ай бұрын
...the fall of empires
@steazymccheesy26492 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-qv3rf The empire of detroit sounds kinda fun ngl
@SantiSomchay2 ай бұрын
Can you shoot a post apocalyptic movie in Detroit?
@Thermopylae20072 ай бұрын
@@SantiSomchay There's certainly stretches where you could do that. It's very sad because many of the older houses were beautifully constructed.
@wehosrmthink75102 ай бұрын
This is so well done . The artist renditions are excellent.
@ericponce87402 ай бұрын
The Crusaders in 1204 got the cake [sack of Constantinople], and the Turks got the crumbs in 1453.
@Fokas-n8t2 ай бұрын
Accurate
@tanju_sarıАй бұрын
the real jewelry is its location...
@stanleyrogouskiАй бұрын
Mehmet II didn't want the gold or the treasures that were there before 1204. He wanted Constantinople and it's geographically strategic site.
@mertnecati875Ай бұрын
Lol, capturing a city in such strategic position is priceless.
@Fokas-n8tАй бұрын
@@mertnecati875 And what did the Turks do with it? They set an Empire and since day one stuck to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile the Venetians run European affairs, invested in Britain and built western European geopolitics altering the course of humanity. All that was based on the 1204 sack of Constantinople, without which it would not be possible for western Europeans to develop at that fast pace. Turks? They did not amount to much in spite of having the world's best location. That says a lot about them.
@ggoddkkiller1342Ай бұрын
As a Turkish person i can confirm this was 100% accurate to our records as well. In Ottoman records the city is literally mentioned as the great ruin, it could never recover from the damage of 4th crusade and fall of Latin empire later on. Ottomans knew the state of city before capturing it and this was why Mehmed offered quite genarous surrender terms twice including no plunder, safe passage etc, because it was a pointless battle but Constantine refused them. And as a custom of those days when the city fell it was allowed to plunder the city for three days. The fate of Constantine is also a myth, there is no records in either side which actually prove he died while fighting nor his body could be ever found. So everything is actually possible, perhaps he fled the city and lived until old age. Archeological excavation in Istanbul is nowhere near complete and there are new passages, rooms etc found every year, perhaps one day his remainings will be found in such a room with battle wounds proving the myth. Another minor mistake, even Hagia Sophia wasn't in good condition, the building was expanding outwards under heavy weight of its dome and in danger of collapsing. To support the structure from outside Ottoman built both minarets and those extra sections outside so it wasn't entirely for converting. There are also cracks and rebars all around Hagia Sophia sadly which damaged many mosaics too. Because they were plastered they aren't seen, you can find historical Ottoman renovation or modern renovation photos showing cracks. Another sad detail about Hagia Sophia, its golden tiles were intact even in late 19th century and it was looking like a golden palace when you entered it. However Ottoman hired two renown Italian artists to do renovation work in late 19th century and they used a wrong kind of seal on tiles. This seal wasn't breathing so moisture built up behind tiles and within only few years they began falling one after another. This is why Hagia Sophia interior looks rather plain today without its golden tiles. Majority of tiles could be preserved but renovation cost would be very high to put them back so they remain in storage.
@masterminddАй бұрын
It's still a miracle that the Hagia Sophia has been standing for as long as it did. Thank you for the insight
@history_repeats8201Ай бұрын
hahaha. The Ottomans had accurate records? This was very funny. The only records they kept is how many slaves and gold was stolen after each sacking of a Christian city
@ggoddkkiller1342Ай бұрын
@@history_repeats8201 It looks like you are confusing Ottoman with crusaders! If you need help to refresh your memory i can help you with a huge list of crusader sacked cities including Orthodox, Muslim and even Catholic cities. Yep, crusaders sacked even some Catholic cities, your kind of people really don't learn anything when they read history..
@history_repeats8201Ай бұрын
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Please dont compare Christians with Turko-jihadis. It is like equating Rome and Paris with the stinky middle east. lol
@history_repeats8201Ай бұрын
@@mastermindd Good thing it was built by Greek and Roman architects, otherwise it will have the same fate as the apartment buildings built in 21st century in SW Turkey
@CaptainGrimes12 ай бұрын
Can you do Alexandria or Jerusalem just before the Arab conquests please?
@jBread282 ай бұрын
Antioch and Carthage too maybe
@CaptainGrimes12 ай бұрын
@@jBread28 Athens and Thessalonica would be interesting too
@baha3alshamari152Ай бұрын
They got conquered by the Sassanids few years before
@CaptainGrimes1Ай бұрын
@@baha3alshamari152 yes they did
@jacasadia2 ай бұрын
Great, video! I have never heard anyone offer this take on the Fall. Thought provoking!
@gregoryPurpuraАй бұрын
Thanks!
@Maiorianus_SebastianАй бұрын
And thank you Sir, for your kind donation, I really appreciate it.
@Oldsmobile692 ай бұрын
Awesome video yet again!
@jasonkatsenis26702 ай бұрын
I was thinking of this topic the last 2 years!
@sarantissporidis3912 ай бұрын
It is recorded that during the ancient Greek colonization, Vyzas from Megara went to the oracle of Delphi to ask god Apolo which place was suitable to establish a new colony for his people. The oracle had responded that the migrants of Megara should cross the Helespont and found their city in the straits of Bosphorus, exactly opposite to the "city of the blind ones ". Vyzas followed the oracle's advice and when the Megareans got there they saw Chrysopolis at the Asian side, and right opposite a magnificent strategically placed site, most suitable to establish a new thriving and important city. It is written that Vyzas said "only blind men could build a city where Chrysopolis stands and ignore a site as important as the one that lies right across the straits.," I guess the oracle was right.
@maryamarantidou812722 күн бұрын
Κι από αυτόν ονομάστηκε η πόλη που έχτισε Βυζάντιο. ❤
@rabbitdawg79642 ай бұрын
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but this is the first video of yours I've seen where you show your face. Cool! You look WAY better than I thought you would.
@ZhangK71Ай бұрын
Lmao usually this would be something someone says as a mean insult but it somehow seems like you actually meant your comment as a compliment without understanding how offensive it is… 🤦🏻♂️
@yja496Ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative and objective.
@alarikski2 ай бұрын
As usual fantastic delivery of information and entertainment for a Byzantine geek like me
@alexanderalexander7404Ай бұрын
First I love your hair- amazing. Second this is a wonderful visual portrayal of the decline and fall of Constantinople. Very well done. I benefited from it. Max
@WilliamRP2632 ай бұрын
It's shocking and counterintuitive to think of Constantinople as more a collection of villages than a unified city, even as late as 1453.
@surters2 ай бұрын
Made me think of Trantor in Foundation after the fall.
@celdur46352 ай бұрын
@@surters Foundation was based on the ERE
@etherospike39362 ай бұрын
@@surters Asimov inspired his writings from the Roman and Eastern Roman Empires . In Frank Herbert's work the history of Dune /Arakis, was written by Princess Irulan,, in the same manner as Anna Komnene wrote the Alexiad.
@surters2 ай бұрын
@@etherospike3936 Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
@michaelsurratt1864Ай бұрын
Well, you can think the venetians for that before the fourth crusade there was hundreds of thousands of people. that farmland they had was after they tore down all the abandoned buildings that people used to inhabit. They didn’t build those giant walls to protect farmland.
@rosskourtis96022 ай бұрын
The Romans had survived so much up till this point that I honestly think that they deserved to survive to today. I hate the 4th Crusade!
@johnfisher2472 ай бұрын
The Venetians provided the fleet for the 4th crusade. As part of the deal they asked the troops to take a town on the coast of Dalmatia on the way. The Venetians wanted payment which they pressured the crusaders to provide. They saw how attractive Constantinople was when they arrived and in a cowardly act took the city dividing it into four. They occupied the city for a long period. The Pope oc the time denounced them with excommunication. It was about Venice taking over Constantinople its trading rival.
@John-qd5of2 ай бұрын
As far as I know, the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are the only 2 Roman institutions to have survived to this day.
@ansibarius4633Ай бұрын
Infamous as it is, that crusade alone didn't end an empire that would otherwise have been thriving. That the crusaders managed to take the city has a lot to do with the fact that the empire was already collapsing at that point.
@rosskourtis9602Ай бұрын
@@ansibarius4633 It's true that the empire was facing major issues prior to the sack, but I think their chances of recovery were good. Remember, the empire managed to survive for another two centuries after the sack. It's not difficult to believe that, had the city not been taken, the empire could have recovered to a significant degree from the crisis it was facing.
@malgusvitiate7002Ай бұрын
@@rosskourtis9602 I love the 4th Crusade!
@mattgraham9515Ай бұрын
It seems to me that the only functioning part of the city, other than the walls and Blachernae, would have been the Augustaion and the remnants of the Hippodrome. What's very interesting are the drawings of Petrus Gyllius in the 1540s, 90 years after the Fall: its clear that there were still bits of pieces of the ruins left even at that late date - he describes columns still visible in the Augustaion, for instances, and a general awareness of the Cisterns below the Ottoman city. The reality is that clearly after the sack of 1204, the ERE was no longer a player, and the city was never again what it had been. In many ways, the Ottoman takeover was a rejuvenation as the video describes!
@tijencan45Ай бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks
@MrKiljeaden892 ай бұрын
1204 - one of the greatest catastrophies of humanity...
@spear15042 ай бұрын
And destruction many old art a of Greco Roman works gone. The monuments, 100,000 of manuscripts, statues, mosaic, old column, hippodrome and imperial library of Constantinople. burn, melted and destroyed taking away from western Europe from ever…..
@charlesiphone57652 ай бұрын
and then came the saddest day in human history 1453
@MrKiljeaden892 ай бұрын
@@charlesiphone5765 Bullshit, 1453 holds only symbolic and emotional value, and it was an event in the making way back the day Byzantium became too weak to stop the Turks.
@riktrink2 ай бұрын
@@charlesiphone5765 we should never let muslim to europe
@rb38722 ай бұрын
Far from it, Charles. 1204 was far worse for humanity. Just like the sack of Baghdad was in 1258. I think these two events were the worst days for humanity if it the parameter is 'loss of knowledge'. Also the book-burning of 213 BCE in China could be considered amongst them, just like the burning/looting of the Library of Alexandria in or around 640.
@djnickbennett2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you.
@carlosfilho34022 ай бұрын
Congratulations on this video.
@j.n.1847Ай бұрын
"So-called fall?" The defence of Constantinople was epic. Even after the walls failed and the emperor died, the citizens were fighting the Ottomans for 3 days, house by house. That was the time when the Ottomans conducted something that would be called a genocide today. Thousands of people were killed, women of any ages and boys were rapped. At the very end, sultan Mehmed figured out it went too far, and ordered attrocities to stop. Sure, the Ottomans rebuit and repopulated the city, as the remaining Roman population was not enough to maintain the city. But in 1453, the New Rome failed and that was the end of the Roman Empire.
@Nova97-k9rАй бұрын
So well presented. I really enjoy these
@lovebaltazar46102 ай бұрын
Things that they would've considered ruined and abandoned, we today consider to be beautiful..
@gladyus3731Ай бұрын
When Mehmet the Conqueror conquered Istanbul in 1453, it was far from its former glory. Because the city was sacked and occupied by the Latins from the 4th crusade in 1204. All the important architectural works were stolen or moved to European cities. Although the Byzantine Empire recaptured the city, it no longer had the wealth to beautify it. The Ottoman Empire preserved much of the architecture that remained after the conquest and tried to increase the city's dwindling population. It embarked on a great architectural activity.
@sharadowasdr2 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in what we would see in a year or so after the city fell, and how it's transformation into Istanbul began. Transformations are fascinating.
@jeune_turc9404Ай бұрын
Nostalgia is a file that removes the rough edges from the good old days
@Theodoros_KolokotronisАй бұрын
One of the most thrilling historical novels, regarding the history and the legacy of Constantinople is “The Dark Angel” (original title Johannes Angelos), of prominent Finnish writer, Mika Waltari. Truly epic.
@keizervanenerc51802 ай бұрын
Visiting Italy right now. Was in Rome the last couple days, now in Napoli. Was going to visit Pompeï today but all the trains got cancelled right in front of me.... And the next 2 days while i am still here it's going to be a rainy mess. No Pompeï for me i guess... :(
@christopherevans24452 ай бұрын
When in Rome...
@keizervanenerc51802 ай бұрын
@@christopherevans2445 somebody should have called Mussolini, he would have made the trains run on time!
@ribkan4759Ай бұрын
2:01 541 Plague 3:15 Column of Constantine 3:54 inagine Hagia Sophia jn 1453 4:26 many of surrounding buildings were in pretty bad shape
@thevisitor10122 ай бұрын
Do "if you had walked through the roman bath houses what would you have seen?" next.
@DieLuftwaffel2 ай бұрын
Naked people. That's what 😂
@BigChap1172 ай бұрын
A lotta sausage
@jjgreek12 ай бұрын
This is why we Greek Constantinopolitans say "better the Sultans turban than the Cardinal's cap"
@Isphanian2 ай бұрын
Well, greeks got what they wanted then, I guess.
@cartesian_doubt62302 ай бұрын
Greeks don't say that. ONE Greek said that. But history tells a different story. Both before and after the fall of Constantinople, Italy became the primary land of refuge for Byzantine refugees fleeing the Turks. All of the major Byzantine scholars fled to Venice, Florence and Rome. Thousands of Greek entered Venetian service as Stradiot mercenaries.
@Pancasilaist87522 ай бұрын
@@cartesian_doubt6230he clearly said constantinople greeks.
@septimiusseverus3432 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you butcher innocent Latins for making money, then expect to get away with no repercussions. You reap what you sow.
@victor382Ай бұрын
@@Isphanianhaha, mofo is saying it as if that was a chad thing to say, Greek bro, that’s such a loser statement.
@ribkan4759Ай бұрын
7:04 last barh 713 ad 7:40 the old milion 8:17 the column of justinian 11:21 Oval Forum: the forum of constantine
@CowetaScott2 ай бұрын
I much appreciate your attention to and focus on the transitional eras of civilizations. The piece you did on the visit of Constans to Rome was excellent. What is remarkable about the Byzantine Empire is that it managed to survive for so long. Gibbon was wrong in denigrating it. It was much more dynamic and adaptable than scholars allow. Please continue your fine and well researched work. So much appreciated in this smallish Georgia town.
@RuiOrmonde2 ай бұрын
Think I heard the narrator say twice "given price to the elements/ruins" in the sense of "left to the elements" or "fallen into disrepair/ruin". Think the "price" usage is a false friend from the German "preisgeben". Examples of usage: "Das alte Schloss wurde dem Verfall preisgegeben." (The old castle was left to decay.); "Nach dem Sturm gab man das zerstörte Dorf dem Verfall preis." (After the storm, the destroyed village was left to decay.)
@Giga-cat-c6b2 ай бұрын
Despite the Ottoman conquest, Constantinople was reborn and even grew in size. I think you should also make videos regarding the Ottomans.
@DouglasJones-wg6xhАй бұрын
Ottoman sympathizer located
@egekurt2733Ай бұрын
@@DouglasJones-wg6xh What's bothering you?
@masterminddАй бұрын
@@DouglasJones-wg6xh He is right tho
@mt_baldwin2 ай бұрын
Rome at this time looked the same way, a city of one million shrunk to one of 35,000, %75 of the area inside it's great walls was open fields, small farms and overgrown ruins. Many of the cities of Europe after the fall of western Rome would've looked much the same at some point, a great many shrank to 1/10th of their land area. Nimes and Arles are two fascinating examples of this urban implosion, they shrank down to just a couple thousand people living in their Amphitheaters (they turned them into little fortified villages with old amphitheater walls acting as town walls), I always think about these two towns when ever I look at some map of a huge Roman city and see the amphitheater.
@MM229662 ай бұрын
One thing you can say about urban decay back then: At least when a building fell into ruin you could pull it apart to make a new building. New stuff, it's either land fill or getting somebody to break up all the concrete.
@murrayhumphreys372418 күн бұрын
The arguments in the Comments section are epic. Love it!
@aligumus420Ай бұрын
*WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE HERE 🇹🇷*
@sebastianmaharg2 ай бұрын
Constantinople was broken beyond repair after 1204.
@egekurt2733Ай бұрын
From 1453 it was recreated by the TURKS!!!ISTANBUL!!!Of course with respect to Eastern Rome...
@sebastianmahargАй бұрын
@egekurt2733 it wasn't renamed "Istanbul" until the 1920s.
@egekurt2733Ай бұрын
@@sebastianmaharg Partly true, partly false!!!Throughout history, every people called different cities in their own way.Arabs called Constantiniyye, Greeks called Constantinople, Turks called ISTANBUL...Names such as Nova Roma, Islambol were also used...In Ottoman documents, it is called ISTANBUL...With the Republic of Turkey founded by our great leader Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK, the name ISTANBUL has been accepted in international law since 1928...
@eskil60965 күн бұрын
@@egekurt2733Correct me if I’m wrong. During the Ottoman times the official name was Constantiniyye ( Ottoman Sultans vieved themselves as the successors of the Roman empire). At the same time the Turkic people who arrived to Anatolia and Trakya called the city Istanbul. Ataturk made the Turkic name in use the official name for the city, correct?
@egekurt27334 күн бұрын
@@eskil6096 In Ottoman state correspondence, it was also referred to as Constantiniyye, but it is also referred to as Istanbul. At that time, it would not be entirely correct to talk about an officiality in today's sense. In international law, it has been referred to as Istanbul since 1928. As a result, since there is no international law in today's sense, each society has named Istanbul according to itself.It was a political maneuver for the Sultans to see themselves as Roman Emperors. After all, millions of Orthodox lived within the borders of the empire.Of course, Byzantine culture was also reflected in the Ottoman Empire.Istanbul was the capital of both empires.We cannot deny this influence.However, it is debatable how accurate it is to call the Ottoman Empire, which is of Turkish-Muslim origin and carries traces of Central Asian and Middle Eastern culture, a continuation of Eastern Rome...I just don't understand this!!!What are you aiming by opening the name of Istanbul for discussion.Istanbul is a TURKISH city.since 1453...Regards...
@cenkerginoz27762 ай бұрын
Great work
@godsowndrunk11182 ай бұрын
Detroit....
@dko69542 ай бұрын
This is so cool! Do you have any book recommendations about this topic?
@abhinavtekumalla2 ай бұрын
Roman empire is eternal. Immortal in our hearts and minds
@KamilUrbanovicz2 ай бұрын
Where can I get such a great map of Constantinopole?
@fyhaskamdig2 ай бұрын
Great video as always!
@YooKkang2 ай бұрын
I’d have seen the garrison force stumbling all over the city trying to mobilize, as fathers, mothers, and even children would armed themselves against the massive Turkish army bombarding the city walls, as Constantine XI gives his last speech to the Roman Empire, with sword, shield, and armor.
@someoneno-one76722 ай бұрын
Great video. I bet, the civil wars of Palaiologos era and the Black Death contributed to the desolation. Today Istanbul is the largest city of Europe by population 😉
@bruceparr16782 ай бұрын
Moscow is the largest city in Europe.
@someoneno-one76722 ай бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 Moscow metro area 2024 - 12,712,000, might be over 13,000,000. Istanbul metro area 2024 - 16,047,000.
@bruceparr16782 ай бұрын
@@someoneno-one7672 According to Wiki, Moscow has 21.5 million in its metropolitan area.
@someoneno-one76722 ай бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 Ok, that’s might be right. In that case, Istanbul would be the second, following, I assume, by London, Paris and St Petersburg 😁
@ale_s452 ай бұрын
The quality of the images has improved dramatically. I was wondering if you could specify when something is AI, when is a reconstruction and when is remainings or images of the time lik the map with the Hippodrome
@editiongauglitz20282 ай бұрын
Ich liebe Vortrag, Erzählkunst und Profundität Deiner Videos! S.M. Maioranus hätte Dich sicher wohlwollend bemerkt: "Guter Mann"! Ich mag auch die Illustrationen der Videos - solange sie menschengemacht sind. KI-Bilder in Videos allgemein mag ich gar nicht, da schaudert es mich immer. Ich finde ihre Herstellungsweise auch "unrömisch" 😉 Ich schreibe sehr selten Kommentare, aber dieser war mir ein Anliegen. Bitte weiter so! Viele Grüße Gerd
@serge-partykingtech59232 ай бұрын
I think this was a great video with your format because you focus more on things toward the end of the empire. What say that you can’t focus on things for toward the end of both empires? There are plenty of small stories of the near the end of the east empires just like there was for the west.
@spunicunifait2697Ай бұрын
Love this! But how did you instruct AI to ensure the imagery is historically accurate? There are several visual references to the Pantheon. St. Peter's in Rome was also about to fall apart around the same time. I would love to meet you at a café in Minga and discuss this and whatnot, really, but I live far away. Subscribed!
@synth4042 ай бұрын
Am I crazy or is there a noticeable beeping in the backgroud through a large part of the video?
@demirdemirbag31942 ай бұрын
Yes, I thought that was my microwave owen. Your comment has put a stop to that thought.
@DOPEdwarf2 ай бұрын
Istanbul reached a population of 500,000-700,000 just a century after this all happened
@Aeterna712 ай бұрын
Ironically city being conquered by Turks actually was a very good thing for Greeks living in city because their population and wealth also increased after 1453.
@RayshiaRoman2 ай бұрын
The Ottomans worked hard to restore Constantinople to be the Queen of Cities again.
@capablemachine2 ай бұрын
@@RayshiaRoman It was a real garbage dump by the Crimean war.
@Kimmerios-l5u2 ай бұрын
@@Aeterna71 apart the various pogroms against them who costed the lives sometimes of hundreds and sometimes of thousands.
@John-qd5of2 ай бұрын
The Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are the two main Roman institutions to have survived till now. The Pope was the senior archbishop in a "first among equals" relationship with the Patriarchs (from the Orthodox viewpoint). From the Catholic viewpoint, only the Pope was supreme. The Catholics survived, and used Latin. After the last Christian ceremonies were performed in Hagia Sophia, the people of Constantinople thought the world was coming to an end. When the Turks came, they killed, and they enslaved somewhat as the Romans had done before them. After the conquest, Sultan Mehmet II claimed that it was revenge for what the Greeks had done to Troy. Asia was recovering what Greece (and Rome), had taken. However, the Turks did not destroy everything. The Sultan wanted to preserve some churches for Christian worship, even Hagia Sophia at first. More significantly, he made sure that the Patriarch remained in place. In fact, the Patriarch became an official in the Ottoman bureaucracy! The Turks divided their empire into "milletlar.' A "millet" or milyet, was a people. The Sultan put the Patriarch in charge of the Christian "millet." That is to say that ALL Christians were subject to the Orthodox Patriarch! His worldly authority existed inside the empire, but his spiritual authority stretched further. You are correct about the rebirth of the city under the Turks. Mehmet II wanted Constantinople as HIS capital. He invited the Greeks to come back. To this day, there are still some Greek and Armenian churches in Istanbul.
@TerrorFront.2 ай бұрын
Glad to see Castiel is doing well.
@cank-pm5npАй бұрын
So good production...Greetings from İstanbul ❤
@AndreaMoletta-s3c2 ай бұрын
Alboin would have been proud.
@gate8475Ай бұрын
So, im thinking, if Ottomans stayed in their own lane and never conquered the ERE, nothing would have triggered the will to travel further, so maybe the arrival to america would have been delayed? but yes, roman world proved to be very very resilient and long lasting, their concepts so influential that they shaped our western world, definitely its the flagship empire of entire earths history
@emj72182 ай бұрын
Congratulations for the video! Nature also teaches us that when an organism is already worn out by old age and disease, new organisms begin to proliferate and develop, because the immune system can no longer do anything.
@tarihbuyutАй бұрын
As a resident of Istanbul, i loved it
@alaahamza622 ай бұрын
,Great! I love human history, it really gives us so much knowledge and so many lessons. None of those empires, since the beginning of history, lasts forever. It’s like a line that rises to a peak of glory, then starts to decline until it vanishes and is replaced by another power, and the cycle continues. What matters is what each of those empires leaves behind for those who come after,whether it's knowledge, culture, resources, or damage to humanity as a whole, i like your hair style btw ..
@arthurgaboyan7774Ай бұрын
Great video. Please also tell the city Ani.
@UfukCihan-e5mАй бұрын
50k people in 1453 now 16 million can you imagine how empty and green was istanbul (Constantinople) now you hardly find a tree in there by the way just saw on the map Galata Tower still exist amazing view was 15 euro in 2014 also Ayasofya (Hagia Sofia) and some monuments
@davidh708816 күн бұрын
@majorianus have you listened to The History Of Byzantium podcast? I think you'd love it 😊
@onurtosyal8164Ай бұрын
what is the tool used to create the images please?
@rl98023 күн бұрын
Breaks my heart to think of the loss.
@carlosfilho34022 ай бұрын
It is very interesting that Constantinople has three names Istanbul, Constantinople and Byzantium.I prefer Constantinople. So much so that during the Ottoman Empire it was mostly called Constantinople.
@H_D_G2 ай бұрын
The name of Istanbul, Turkey comes from the Medieval Greek phrase eis tin Polin (εἰς τὴν πόλιν), which literally means "to the city". The name was used in colloquial Turkish during the Ottoman rule, and became the official name of the city in 1930.
@burakalbayrak7835Ай бұрын
It seems it was called Konstantiniye in official records but people used Istanbul more in daily life. Another name I really like is Dersaadet (gate of happiness)
@LeoniYUGАй бұрын
Maiorianus, could you make a video about the Roman postal service? It would be great if you go for an excursus during many centuries…
@vHumboldt772 ай бұрын
Dude, I must confess that until I saw you, I thought you'd look a bit nerdish, but, wow, you have great looks, much in line with the beauty you describe in your videos. THANK YOU.
@zuzanasmazakova51502 ай бұрын
It all had got going with two crazy sisters and Doukas's tremblings for glory
@TidusVen2 ай бұрын
I am happy Contanstinople did not have the same fate as Rome. I like the Turks, particularly Mehmet II, kept as well as they could.
@michaelfisher7170Ай бұрын
It can be said with some pride that Constantinople and the Byzantines at least went down fighting. No surrender, like Venice chose to do when Napoleon showed up at their doorstep.
@grahamlawlor83612 ай бұрын
Why was it that when Constantinople fell to the Ottomans in 1453 they came to stay, rebuild, improve and make it their capital, whereas when it fell to the Venetians in 1204 they came to loot, pillage, destroy and leave? Why didn't the Venetians see the same opportunity as the Ottomans?
@bruceparr16782 ай бұрын
I suspect the Ottomans thought of themselves as Romans.
@D19DMO128D2 ай бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 They did not. The Sultan was just a Byzaboo. He loved Graeco-Roman history and wanted to emulate them.
@bruceparr16782 ай бұрын
@@D19DMO128D I think that is what I said.
@D19DMO128D2 ай бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 "Thought themselves as Romans". You did not
@favorius2 ай бұрын
Because we already had Balkans and Anatolia under our rule so Constantinople would be only natural capital while Italians had nothing except a few colonies.
@dh2profit2 ай бұрын
Were native Americans appreciative of the re-vitalization of North America after the arrival of the English? Same thing.
@Not-Ap2 ай бұрын
Yes, but at the same time, these were the same people who inspired the English to conquer the Americas. You could say 1453 was karma if you like, but if the Romans hadn't created an empire, I guarantee someone else would have. The same is true for what happened in North America. That brutality was simply the way of the old world. It still is in certain places actually.
@contemporarymale2 ай бұрын
Revitalized? There was nothing vital in North America before the white man showed up to create a civilization. Just stone aged savages living hand to mouth in the wilderness. They should be thankful frankly.
@inregionecaecorum2 ай бұрын
So by this time, Rome would have been more impressive, and even London would have had a bigger population.
@scorpioferrous7621Ай бұрын
last sentence was awesome. "1453 was a birth of a new city"
@OG-me1nq9 күн бұрын
i born in Istanbul. Although i am Turk, i feel that i have the same Roman culture. We never been Latins. Culture is about neighbourhood, food, music, daily life. I visit nearly all world but nothing can be compared as culture and daily life in Istanbul and also Athens.
@harpoen73582 ай бұрын
Indeed an interesting video . Can give more explanation how the city looked back in those days as you describe because it looks like you have very old pictures which is not the case that is what you are not telling . You talk about it as if you are a time traveler 😀. So if you can explain that in a next video would be great
@heyfitzpablumАй бұрын
Constantinople never recovered from the sack by the 4th Crusaders in 1204, as well as the endless intrigue of the Royals. The disruption of trade routes by the Seljuks contributed to the economic decline of the Byzantines. The Empire lasted nearly 1000 years, but time caught up with it.
@markblocker3310Ай бұрын
At 15:30 you are correct; the Turks died in vast numbers by the hands of the gallant defenders of Constantinople. In fact, the city would never have fallen if not for three major acts of sabotage undertaken by the "alien" residents of the city. The final act was to open a secret gate (Circus Gate), into which poured 1,000s of Mehemet's heavy infantry. The Semites and Turks were in a big hurry to end the siege because they were terrified more Catholics would be arriving to help defend the city. Equally tragic, the Catholic Empire was planning a new crusade to retake the city 50 years later; but had to cancel the plans due to the catastrophe known as The Reformation.
@GeoBBB1232 ай бұрын
It was a fall Maioranus.
@geraldbruce886Ай бұрын
I think this is what is happening to America and Britain now. That is its in decay but there was obvious evidence of its once former glory
@issaelynuma90012 ай бұрын
Buen video.
@RT-mn2pbАй бұрын
Thanks
@emreozkaya42792 ай бұрын
The Great Ottomans ruled the world for 600 years
@zaranski1889Ай бұрын
Some dunes and under developed countries in the balkans
@nesrintercan1220Ай бұрын
@@zaranski1889 Really ? What about Algeria and Egypt ?
@zaranski1889Ай бұрын
@@nesrintercan1220 no difference
@michaelfisher7170Ай бұрын
they ruled a good chunk of it yeah.
@Steve-bw9bsАй бұрын
Good use of graphics.
@simonestreeter151811 күн бұрын
I guess I need to update my browser. This video buffered every minute or two. They must have added some more stuff.
@kriskris998Ай бұрын
It will be nice if you make video about the siege of Constantinople in 1203/04
@wfp93782 ай бұрын
Was there recently and felt sad it had been invaded and fell. After watching this…. I am kind of glad the decrepit crumbling shambles was destroyed.
@arzuozcan7039Ай бұрын
You mean Istanbul😊
@Not-Ap2 ай бұрын
It was a fall in that it was last vestiges of any kind official roman state. No matter how different governments try claim themselves Roman it was doesn't make them so. Not the Ostrogoths, not the Franks, not the Swabians, not the Brittons, not the Anglo Saxons, and definitely not the Turks. Rulling over the a ethnic or cultural demographic that formerly constituted the ruling class does not make you one of them. Nobody but a Aztec, Han, or Yamato could claim to be the ruler of one of their Empires. Especially when they don't even follow the same religion, culture, or even speak the same language. To go around claiming these things as some of these groups did is laughable at best and absurd at the most.
@AndreaMoletta-s3cАй бұрын
The last vestiges were destroyed after the fall of Trebizond.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot2 ай бұрын
Sounds like current day Detroit.
@Chevalierjacquesarthur2 ай бұрын
Great vid! But I must say that last bit about economic activity and trade increasing after the fall is false. In fact the Ottomans conquest caused the exile of the Venetians and Genoese who had developed a monopoly over Mediterranean trade hurting Europe leading to The Age of Exploration.