Walkthrough: Spitfire Symphonic Motions

[@Hb093]

my feedback about the UI: I suggest to find a way to better visualize the entire grid, maybe add a function that allows the user to switch between different window layouts (just a few, like 2-3); right now the giant knob is not so ergonomic (in my opinion) because it forces the user to scroll down to see all of the grid.

[@MarcusHedenberg]

“Something very exciting for you today.” In a huge twist, Paul is no longer excited, but has something exciting for us. My OCD was triggered hard because I don’t like different. The library looks great!

[@zaharishtonov]

How could you be excited after the recent competition fiasco that has happened (I don't want to even mention titles)...

[@MarcusHedenberg]

@@zaharishtonov I'm of the opinion that the competition did exactly what it needed to and made one winner very happy. Or at least it should have, but people apparently can't stop making a ginormous deal out of it. You're entitled to your opinion if you didn't like the winning entry, and by the same token, I'm entitled to the opinion I'm about to give you. It's quite petty to call it a 'fiasco' and direct that negativity to the rest of Spitfire's work when they've done quite a bit for the composer community in a short few years - arguably more than most companies out there. If one competition bothers you *this* much, fine, but it's hardly the most productive use of your time.

[@TonyByte]

Haha. I noticed the difference immediately and scrolled to look for this comment... and now back to the video. ;)

[@anonagain]

Reat In Peace Ennio Morricone - your originality and authenticity will be greatly missed.

[@orchetect7415]

Sounds great as always. Just absolutely baffled why no one thought to include a keyswitch option so you can just switch the entire keyboard between patterns, which is infinitely more pragmatic than a randomize function. Also nowhere in the video did it demonstrate a CC controlling dynamics while patterns are playing. How many dynamic layers are there and how seamlessly do they transition?

[@zaharishtonov]

Spitfire always show you the positive parts of their products. You find the rest only after you've already purchased the libraries... I say, wait and see for some independent reviews to start coming out. As far as CC controlled dynamics, these are all short articulations so it would probably be all based on velocity I assume.

[@MoonhareStudio]

The usual setup on these Spitfire libraries is that the second slider controls the dynamics and it maps to CC1. Also worth remembering that you can always download the manual before shelling out for a library to see what functions it has that aren't covered in the basic walkthroughs.

[@spectraflycam815]

Simply Amazing!!! Brilliant Work Again Spitfire!!!

[@TheFjMartinmusic]

Love Spitfire Audio...but I very exited with NI Arkhis...a gem

[@SharonChenMusic]

Arkhis is like a blend of a couple Spitfire libraries..

[@noizzihardwood]

And unlike Spitfire, NI actually lets you transfer a license. Spitfire doesn't seem to believe their products have any value after the initial sale.

[@serkanozturk2795]

Perfect library for writing in the style of Philip Glass

[@iancurrie3763]

I wish it was recorded in the same hall as BBCSO :(

[@tonigeol291]

4:24 sits in perfect conjunction with symphonic .....

[@NakulKrishna]

@@tonigeol291 thats their other range.

[@richdewhittaker1746]

Not having to program runs like this and have it ultimately not sound as good as these-because they’re actual performances...is worth the price of admission alone! In addition,it has the internal palette of excellent mic positions and fx to draw on...loving it...thank you!

[@joeharrisoncomposer]

Awesome, hoping to snag this at some point soon. I had a chance to play around with NI Action Strings a couple years ago, and while they were good as a beginner tool, I felt like they weren't quite as high quality as they could be. THIS library sounds MUCH better and more versatile.

[@rocky_racoon_uk1252]

Very useful thanks Paul, great tool for tired fingers.

[@GaryJocher]

If you own Spitfire Kepler Orchestra you should be able to upgrade for smaller price because if you research Kepler Orchestra it is exactly the same concept renamed.

[@HowardJung]

Splendid demonstration. Thank you Paul.

[@awpqq]

I wonder how well this will fit with BBC SO Core - maybe just using the close mics?

[@zaharishtonov]

You gonna have to dial down all those hall mics, or add more reverb to BBCSO.

[@dfizzbom]

I happily bought bbcso core but I also have sonuscore the orchestra complete and frankly they have rhythmic orchestra nailed with that. Hard to beat it. I go back to it again and again in every composition. This is a cool offering though.

[@marksadventures3889]

OOh! Nice and rich - very thick, love it. i have also realised i'm not doing my strings correctly as to seated p[position in a real orchestral scenario. great stuff Paul - thanks for your help and inspiration. Steve Reich is someone I studied at college as we went through the genres.

[@dafingaz]

Have to revisit this series. Using this on a project and want to make sure I'm not missing any special features. LOL. Let's go!

[@feliperocha1582]

Still waiting for yours 8-bit emulator library

[@keiththeodosiou]

Very impressive! Sounds fantastic!

[@soundtreks]

Nice walk through Paul. It’s a very powerful library.

[@PianoPrinceOfAnime]

Hello! May I ask what Midi Fader control are you using on the top left?

[@mimoochodom2684]

Sounds fabulous.

[@nedfo72]

I'm kind of bummed there's no basses and violas, but otherwise it sounds awesome!

[@karl.weaver]

Donovan Colton You would lose definition.

[@zaharishtonov]

@@karl.weaver - Would you? :)

[@rdru2ner82]

I think its because violins 🎻 and cellos are more popular and the amount of samples to just create these where a hand full on its own

[@nedfo72]

@@rdru2ner82 yeah, and it's relatively cheap for being a library recorded in the hall. Still, I love my ostinatos with just basses, cellos, and violas haha

[@alexandergrimes6959]

As a professional orchestral violist, my ear is being tricked into hearing violas. I think it's the chordal playing multiplying the actual number of players being heard. Also the basses with the time-machine patches in SSO sounds realistic enough without the need for this.

[@storiesreadaloud5635]

So... what niche does this fill, this is like Action Strings but you're able to create the phrases yourself?

[@allendean9807]

Does anyone know any libraries where the strings rise, or fall? I’ve been hearing scores lately, where strings will do a rise, or a slide and it sound totally cool... Btw, i will buy this as soon as possible! Love it, and all SA libraries!!

[@stackedfat]

Angel Strings by Auddict

[@MasonTorrey]

How would I go about making this fit with BBCSO? Or are you going to release a BBCSO version at some stage?

[@SharonChenMusic]

BBC is my favorite orchestral lib over Symphony and Chamber right now. I see similarities in this with Evo Grid and the Symphonic String Evolutions, but this allows a bit more precision over the rhythmic values..

[@GTSongwriter]

I'm guessing since this had been out for 2 years, it's probably had this sell before or even better?

[@pedrobarrionovo]

Sounds absolutely great!

[@santiagovalenciamusic]

Way cool. I just bought mine and can't wait to try it out! You guys just keep them coming don't you!? Thanks for all your hard work. :)

[@zaharishtonov]

Great, let us know how it feels and what might need more improvement. Do you have any CC controls on this thing?

[@rodrigogarciamz]

the "Symphonic Motions" Spitfire Official M1 patches link is down. please update. it's been weeks now. we need it working.

[@steverose3860]

I wonder how they blend with BBCSO

[@zaharishtonov]

They do not. You're going to have to work that out and match.

[@OldNerdTV]

Me: I need this, I have so many ideas just from watching the video. Wallet/Credit Card: Well, no. The End.

[@Drakensson]

I genuinely feel sorry for those that started making music before 2020

[@mybiggrin]

I just wish that the ostinato had downward articulations to serve as a retrograde of the upward ones, but oh well. I'm probably just greedy. It's a very lovely library.

[@leonardomora4733]

The complete orquestra library now is dead... This is the real deal!!! ... Sounds amazing and doesn’t feel like a sample library loop like native instruments session strings! Thank you spitfireaudio!!!

[@mathieukmusic8143]

I disagree. This library sounds good, but an incomplete automated string ostinato library is not the real deal... I hope composers will keep writing original pieces of music using creativity, various instruments and techniques, and not relying on automated libraries...

[@gagsmedia]

Love it!

[@realPhotoMocha]

I love the sound and the extensive variety of applications of Spitfire Symphonic Motions

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Will this not work with any other outside libraries like eastwest, or Iconica or anything?

[@shivercanada]

Very nice.

[@badialmandeep]

LOVE IT, what mic is paul using? it sounds phenomonal!

[@proteus1]

What's the recomended hard drive for placement the samples?

[@kaiengel2884]

Is it possible to use a tempo track? I mean, what happens if we change tempo when we already play a note?

[@birdlingbrains]

On the web page for the plug-in, Kelan Rooney's demo "Tempest" does a bunch of tempo changes around the 1 minute mark. Sounds like it adapts on-the-fly.

[@VHF.brunoverdoni]

Sound so good!!! What is the midi controller I see you are using??? You should do a vid on those for composers Thank you!

[@Baronvonheadless]

It’s great on the presets but if I tweak the mix or mic settings at all it pops and glitches out like crazy. What gives? I have a very powerful MacBook

[@rdru2ner82]

Spitfire Audio, I am going to just say it. I was going to buy Orchestral Tools Junkie XL Brass but, I could not because I would have felt wrong about doing that to you guys. Truth be told, I went from making hip-hop beats to orchestral music learning everything I know in programming orchestral music through Paul and Christain's tutorials. Therefore, using your new engine can guys come out with a new brass library that compares to Junkie XL? and for me, it's all about the mic positions. I still love you too, Junkie XL. Please support OT as well. P.S. - Your second biggest fan Nick! (I am sure someone out there is a bigger fan than me!) Thank you, Woodwinds would be fine too!

[@fercomposer]

Brilliant comment!!! I'm in the very same situation! Migrating from pop to orchestral but nevetheless why not a librery like Junkie!!! PS: Your third biggest fan...

[@steffinmathew2565]

Nice work. Can you'll make a guitar plugin lab 👍😅🙏

[@Triple070007]

Say more about the difference between this and a phrase library. I have NI Action Strings and yes you can build longer phrases out of the short phrases or patterns, but it's still a phase library. Very limiting for composing.

[@zaharishtonov]

I've personally never liked phrase based libraries for this reason.

[@PhilReyGibbons]

Not so much difference I guess, just the quality that has largely improved. I sometime use these as a "guide" for composing (like you would compose with piano, than develop for orchestra). Usefull cause it can go with your flow, and include a sense of rythm without having to program while composing. Then, when your track is "done", you may replace, change, arrange etc... Or even keep some of it ;)

[@Justin.Franks]

Well, it sort of *is* a phrase library.....just _very_ short phrases. Sounds great though, and at the intro price for owners of Symphonic Strings, I'll probably be picking this one up.

[@akcel1211]

Hop ! In the wishlist (sorry but seeing this new bookseller I can't help thinking of Sonokinetic)

[@fercomposer]

Hi!!! Is it possible to use in one track the sound of a long violin sound for example and in the very same track add a part of this new library? Thank You!

[@brorberglund6686]

It’s at least possible using something like Cubase’s expression maps

[@bikesnbeerz]

Why oh Why did you guys not put this in Kontakt like so many other great libraries?

[@alfieboy1459]

Because if they put all their libraries in Kontakt then their support team wouldn't have much to do.

[@noizzihardwood]

Cool. How about a contest - anyone who can sample 8-bit video game sounds wins a license?

[@zaharishtonov]

I guess, this is a great auxiliary library for those who don't want to spend the time programming every single ostinato note.

[@rdru2ner82]

Yep!

[@FlowCAG]

I’ll be honest, after that Westworld competition debacle, this guys voice is a joke to me now. Spitfire’s reputation really took a hit.

[@gavinmcmahan]

Paul! What’s your fader controller?

[@karl.weaver]

AVID Artist Mix Control

[@ppukids9317]

Wt this software sir

[@ourPurple]

It seems like an improved Evo Grid 3. Cool!

[@scottlord-artistchannel4840]

Seems like it, better recordings, different articulations... EVO 3 has more legato sounds though, so they may have much different purposes.

[@JulianDoe]

yes it looks like evo on steroids. Both on my wishlist...

[@lxuaes6915]

this is the founder!

[@gabrielecroci8179]

where the hell are the violas?!

[@seanfourie7]

yes please

[@burnmic]

I'll be picking this up, but I have to say - did anybody else struggle to hear any real difference between mixes 1,2 and 3? Even with my eyes closed and headphones on, I could barely distinguish between them. My only ask @spitfire is to please add a closer close mic - I get it, being in the hall and adding a mic that captures none of the room is criminal - but as you've captures the room in all other mic positions, I'd love to have a really, reaaally close mic to add some additional clarity. As I said, buying anyway as it sounds fantastic!

[@magicroomstudios]

I think he was supposed to change the 3 mic sliders about then save it to one of those 3 MIX slots - but failed to do that - maybe he did not realize it's implementation or just assumed we would not need to know that - just showing us how to switch between the mixes once stored...My best guess... (The last two mixes were for sure the same as the first...)

[@DavidGaliel]

Simply brilliant.

[@rich_in_paradise]

Can't read the important part of the UI because half the window is taken up big a gigantic stupid dial

[@FujiFujimoto]

+1 on a BBCSO version

[@BenoitVanhoffelen]

It is playable with loaded BBCSO instruments??

[@matiascastrocomposer]

I need it!

[@chrisiskandar7388]

nice product overall. i feel like this goes together very well with the kepler library.

[@alexandergrimes6959]

My first insta-purchase. SSO is my workhorse baby!

[@chromofonic]

I don't see the "outside the box", "be different" aspect in this library. This is no Rachmaninoff, Stravinsky, Coppola, Tarantino etc. Sounds like a recycled version of Evolution libraries. Try harder Spitfire Audio. Dare to be different. Think outside the box. Follow Christian's message. Evolve.

[@alexandergrimes6959]

This is essentially an expansion for the Spitfire Symphony Orchestra that deals with a difficult-to-sample rebowing. For those of us that use SSO as our workhorse, this is amazing.

[@magicroomstudios]

They are prioritizing what folks need first - You need your basics as solid and as real as it can be before you go all Wagner and Stravinsky... They have upped the bar. There are other libraries to deal with the frosting stuff out there each has its place and use. (I'll take a Louis Clark Senior any day before I need a Stravinsky...)

[@nickhagedorn1433]

Why is this unlisted?

[@anonagain]

It's a marketing funnel. The 'available now' video is public, it links to the product page which is where this video can be found. Once you get a potential customer to the product page, they're more likely to order. I'd guess that after the initial marketing campaign tapers down, they'll probably make this video public on KZbin.

[@nativeVS]

Will we see Evo 3 in this new Engine? Seems like you worked out/licensed a decent time-stretching algorithm.

[@MarshallBanananana]

Glad to see SFA Player steadily progresses.

[@leeberry1217]

Like it, exciting too 😉

[@rdru2ner82]

I don't understand why we took this long to put this out for me, you know I needed this in my strings collection, like Carlos Santana saying to himself; which guitar I will use today? Like all of them..,.lol

[@salatproduction4477]

8-bit sound?

[@thescreamingwing5068]

I was certain I was sorted for all things symphonic. Bugger.

[@jennifergala]

So spitfire is becoming Sonokinetic now. I don't like automized orchestras everyone sounds the same. Real composers write and conduct the scores themselves. Good sound though.

[@spitfyre617squadronthedogm3]

A really popular thought - Ennio Morricone - "Whoever writes music without orchestrating each segment is nothing but a dilettante." Christian Henson - "If you don't attempt to find your own voice, approach this differently to others, there is simply no point in people hiring you."

[@Peethoven]

Indeed, this is just a Michael Nyman emulator without the saxophones. Just press a few baroque chord sequences and... result. Maybe it's good for lazy media composers or media composers in a hurry. I never understood the need for these kind of libraries when you can just play and program ostinatos yourself.

[@dafingaz]

Creamy strings. Sounds nice!

[@jannisbmrt]

More strings, of course

[@MaximilianMKGill]

Spitfire Audio You guy and girl need to make a midi keyboard Native interments has one and they sell a tone of them and plus you could make a better one.

[@tonyg2554]

Lovely ... but feel sorry for that violin.

[@alvarovivanco9929]

I waaaaaant it!

[@Lazeil]

We should always leave out the violas.... it just sounds better that way :P

[@platinumproducersongwriter5086]

NO need to buy this library ! cause we all know now that to score a hollywood movie we just need a 8 bit old synths collection... thanks you for saving me some money.... regards...