Walther Rotex RM8 VS BSA R10 - Which rifle is better?

[@nigelbase1196]

There you go...not a patch on the BSA...well you certainly get what you pay for... 😉

[@daviddavis6231]

You need a visit to speck savers

[@nigelbase1196]

@@daviddavis6231 yeah ok 🙄

[@bunkaaa8726]

Really?! They both came out pretty evenly.

[@rogerparker9228]

Ive had the r10 and currently own the rm8. And with the right pellet the rm8 is just as accurate. Easily 20 pellets under a pound coin size at 30 yards.

[@bunkaaa8726]

@@rogerparker9228 What pellet do you have best results with

[@ianwoods1384]

Hi Chris, thankyou for time, in making your film. Personally, I love the look of the R10. In my humble opinion, BSA are where they should be with this rifle. I'm a great believer in, you get what you pay for. I've heard issues with leaks, with yhe R10's, but this may be an issue in transportation from factory, to individual outlets. They're not allowed to be transported with air inside. So with no pressure inside, the seals may move. When charged up again at the shop/store, obviously, the seals may have moved and won't seal. The Air pressure would have kept the seals in place. If the gunsmith doesn't check them over, there will be air pressure issues. From what I can see from the reviews, the new R12, released on 1st Sept, this year, the action is a one piece block, so hopefully less seals will be required, and less chance of problems. The R10 and R12 both look fabulous kit and when you think, what BSA have done for us, they are where they ought to be in air rifle manufacture. The two BSA's are fabulous air rifles. Thankyou Chris and BSA.

[@philgale1752]

My R10 is regulated , 2nd hand and loves the JSB 4.5 8.4 gr .

[@donpeer4477]

Chris, don't "chase the dot". If the first shot is a flyer, your screwed! Fire at least three before adjusting your aim. All in all, fantastic video! Thanks, again, for the time you put in making these. Kudos!

[@Simon_Nonymous]

Just some thoughts, having watched a few back to back tests now as I'm in the market for a PCP. Even though you have the rifles in a gunvice, your table is wobbling all over when you reload, and I can see it move when you fire. The trendy stick on targets look great but the traditional 25 metre type of target make it much easier to measure a group size. Watching holes appear in a piece of paper in real time gets tedious - how about speeding the video up (like Bloke on the Range does) till we have a group shot? Interestingly I owned one of the first RM8s, and used JSB Exacts - but it was the pellet head size that could make a very noticeable difference to accuracy and grouping, as I tried three different sizes to get the best match to the barrel; could you perhaps mention pellet head size where it is known? I hope that can be taken as constructive, not a moan or a troll. Having watched your vid, I'd be happy to spend my £ on the RM8 though! Take care.

[@heithwatkins]

My BSA R10SE ( FAC) shoots everything excellent above 10gr. It has a longer barrel, 19 inches. I get 50 shots, or 30 for the tightest extreme spread. 10.65gr running around 885fps average. SD 3 to 5. Its deadly accurate and totally reliable. Hi from the USA.....🎯

[@southwestshooters]

Hello from the UK!

[@peterprice5896]

Im not being rude fella but you aren’t exactly delicate with your reload style “I mean that respectfully” just look at the silencer tip when you pull on the bolt and it never seemed to go back to home/post sighting position….just an observation……love the channel either way.

[@southwestshooters]

Mate. Thanks for the kind message. I will take your suggestions on board.

[@peterprice5896]

@@southwestshooters can I say I’m now the proud owner of a as new BSA r12 CLX pro with a optisan evx scope it has two improved 12 shot mags so I’m expecting great things its the side lever version.

[@mikeenglish7063]

I have both. The r10 stock is stunning. Its slightly more accurate , but does jamb now and again. The magazines are a little finicky on how they're loaded. The rm8 isn't as pretty, the bolt is more clunky, but it's never jambed up on me. And doesn't get fliers like the one you've reviewed. But it is an older style one with wooden stock.

[@southwestshooters]

The fliers could be me ;)

[@mikeenglish7063]

@@southwestshooters or maybe the crown. Or damaged skirt on pellet.

[@southwestshooters]

@@mikeenglish7063 Hi Mike - how would I know if it were the crown? I don't even know what the crown is! I was thinking it might be the magazine!

[@mikeenglish7063]

@@southwestshooters have a look at the end of the barrel with it off. Check for burrs etc. But usually qualitys good on walther

[@Rangefinder52]

Another useful comparison test, both great guns, but I'm not sure the R10 is worth the extra cost, for my money I would buy the RM8 as it seems superb value. Thank you for taking the time to bring us these vids. Subscribed.

[@southwestshooters]

Dear Matt. I agree with you. The RM8 is one of the best, if not the best, value for ANY money gun that is on sale here in the UK. Such a fantastic tool. You are most welcome - it is nice to hear that people value this content. Thank you for the subscription. It means a lot!

[@albertclarke2826]

To eliminate unconscious bias in pellet comparisons, it would be a good idea to have someone else load your magazines and fire blind (as it were). A lot more confidence in results would be gained that way.

[@wizard1963uk]

another bolan fan here

[@stephenkayll5241]

I have an RM8 UC and it prefers the JSB Exact 8.44gr in 4.53 size, not 4.52 it can be that fussy to get the best from the gun.

[@southwestshooters]

This is a fantastic suggestion. Have you ever tried heavier pellets at all?

[@stephenkayll5241]

@@southwestshooters Not yet, what's the heaviest pellet you have used? Bisley Magnus may be worth trying.

[@southwestshooters]

@@stephenkayll5241 Well Stephen, funny you should mention that because I just brought a pack! They will be being tested soon!

[@Simon_Nonymous]

This was my conclusion too when I owned an RM8 - 4.53mm heads were markedly better. FWIW you can buy them in sampler packs of 25 pellets to reduce the cost of trialling the different head sizes.

[@GoldenSticks]

I’m considering the RM8. Is there any accuracy difference between standard an UC? Thanks

[@andyfry745]

I think this shows the importance of your projectile and it’s weight...it also shows how good the rm8 really is...I think that the rm8 will shoot as well at that range with the bisley magnums....so many variables in this sport which keep it interesting.great job again👍👍👍

[@southwestshooters]

Yes, I'm going to order some of those in my next order too.... Dang, it's going to be a big one!

[@rogerparker9228]

Jsb exacts are the most accurat ive found

[@poc329]

I have the RM8 that the shop recommended for my budget. A bit heavy. But I love it. Great video. Love the way you say you don't care. That's what it's all about. It's personal.

[@tjames9555]

Thank you for another informative and fun video. I have a R10,had it for around 5 years or so and I love it, I recently bought a Gamo coyote for £385 new i believe it's made in the BSA factory? the accuracy is on par with the R10 which is brilliant for the price. I bought a (sample pack) of pellets and found the rs super domes work well in it. thanks again please keep them coming :)

[@southwestshooters]

Dear Mr. James. I believe you are right, the Gamo brand are supported/manufactured by BSA - so it makes sense that the Gamo is so good! I would like to try more pellets, but it really is a case of the resources! I always keep a healthy stock of JSBs that work with my Daystates - but I will branch out into more in the future. Thank you for your support!

[@cockneykevan1]

Hi mate I have just brought the gamo coyote in 22 when I came to use it it sounds just like my old springer on discharge, hows yours?

[@tjames9555]

@@cockneykevan1 hi I have a 22 and It does make quite a bark with out a moderator, I had a regulator fitted which increased it's performance considerably,

[@MrNewtonian]

Any regulator trouble with the R10?

[@jimmyh8090]

I did notice in your vid is that the rotex shots sometimes cracked off louder shots which is when you got the flyers. It could be your mike or was it inconsistent with the air release. Thanks for your review 👍

[@scottishbushman3745]

Awesome review again Andy

[@peterprice5896]

Every time you pulled back I watched the tip of the rifle barrel and on both guns the positioning “even with shooting stand was very unstable and never seemed to return to its original point…..that has to make a difference.

[@philipbooth9755]

I know it’s not practical- but a wider choice of pellets is needed for a gun v gun comparison and there are so many other factors like were the pellets all weighed and shot by weight grouping? Ergonomics- of the individual Rifle-not just shooting from a rest (which looks extremely wobbly!) are important comparisons, a single shot tray would also be fairer as some mag systems mangle pellets more than others . A fairer tardy would be a Weirauch KT100 against the BSA

[@wichywoo]

pellet diameter is very important , i can fire air arms 5.52 through s410 and titan manitau with good results the titan also likes h&n ftt 5.53 but the s410 does not like those at all and both a walther barrels wether they are the same rifling i don't know? i would imagine that lead hardness is a factor too depending on how many rifling groves they are and how deep ?

[@SL-ez7qn]

Just goes to show how good the Rm8 is. Similar accuracy ( pallet depending) at about half the price.

[@nigelbase1196]

Rm8 half the price for a reason....made of cheap monkey metal ..not built for longevity like the BSA!

[@SL-ez7qn]

@@nigelbase1196 I had a BSA Se before the rm8. I Didn’t think it built as bsa’s used to be built. Rm8 handles better, you get more shots per fill and the Rm8 is just as good as if not better at a better price.

[@mry4354]

I've been looking at buying a RM8 but I'm not sure now and I'm quite disappointed in the R10 I thought this gun was really accurate considering its twice the price

[@jizzmonkey9679]

They are both far more accurate (conditions depending) than they came across in this video ,I'm sure indoors he would have tightened them up considerably.

[@billcampbell6602]

good video and love these comparisons, nothing to apologise for the last portion of the video, the scope is good for hunting with a .22 LR out to 100 yards , but not much chop for target shooting accuracy with an air riffle, in the time you gave yourself, but good effort all the same. The video has also pushed me towards the BSA R10 . would ideally want to know the ideal pellet over 10 yard increments 20 -50 y. pretty sure your followers would be interested as well.... willing to help

[@southwestshooters]

I am still refining the formula for testing guns, and although I don't think I could do exactly what you suggested I will try and do something similar in the future.

[@rsorez329]

Hi. What scope is on your RM8?

[@michaelbritain5546]

At 30 meters I wouldn't call any of those groups particularly good and certainly not exceptional, I've used both the R10 and the RM8 both are capable of far better accuracy than you can shoot.

[@southwestshooters]

You are absolutely welcome to your own opinion Michael. Feel free to upload any evidence of your superior shooting. Thanks for the comment.

[@malmal5158]

yes i would say that was like some kid shooting petty poor effort

[@southwestshooters]

@@malmal5158 feel free to show everyone evidence of your superior shooting. I'm being totally serious. I'd love to see it.

[@malmal5158]

@@southwestshooters hello 1m 73 years old not used to computer,s e mail and modern tec but i have had air rifle,s since 1961 i have been camping all over uk never bought meat on any trip got my own and still own around 8 rifle,s to old now but opinions are like ass hole,s evryboddy has got one

[@southwestshooters]

@@malmal5158 true dat.

[@nigelmonaireo5024]

Thanks for the video. On your utube video I got myself the rm8 for hunting could not afford the r10 thanks Chris

[@southwestshooters]

You made the right decision. The RM8 is a better gun.

[@BazAmanda60]

I had a .177 r10 aadf were great in it, jsb exact had to be 4.52 otherwise it was a shotgun. It didn't like anything heavy . Love the honest way you present, subscribed too

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you Mr. Jones. Very kind of you.

[@BazAmanda60]

@@southwestshooters I speak as I find ,and its Baz my friend 👍

[@southwestshooters]

@@BazAmanda60 thanks Baz!

[@chrismclean2989]

Only problem with PIO matching POA is once you lose your aiming mark the group always open up, that why benchrest shooter alway aim off; keeps the groups tighter 👍

[@vincentnastri7736]

I own both in .22 and can say with the right ammo at 30 yards both are tack drivers. I shoot pest up to 60 yards with my R10 but not tried the R8 at that range on live prey. If I had to choose one it would be the R10 but the R8 is far cheaper gun so maybe better value. Pays your money and take your choice.

[@BKKNOW1]

Would like to see who shoots the best out of the FX DREAMLINE and the BSA R10 or 12.

[@stephenkayll5241]

Great , looking forward to the review.

[@southwestshooters]

Coming soon!

[@RICKSTANGER]

Which rifle is better? Neither the Gamo phox will shoot them both under the table

[@Mjk10957]

I find with PCP air rifles they are all pretty accurate there not that much differance in them , it tends to be in qaulity of stocks and triggers ect , but i would never pay over £600 for a air rifle i just dont think the performance out of a £1000 plus air rifle like a daystate or FX is all that much better to be honest . Its the same with Rim fires as well my £325 Cz452 easliy keeps up with rifle that cost triple that.

[@monkeymagic2385]

Have you tried making sure that the target doesn't slip out of place when you shoot it :)

[@barryfoxall2082]

.177 or .22 which are you testing

[@chzuniga1]

My question was right between these two weapons, in the end I decided the BSA R10SE, over the Walter Rotex R8. The R10 groups in a magnificent way, but I noticed that Walter's stock has a small picatiny rail at the end of the stock that does not have the R10 does not have and that is missing to be able to mount a bipod, for the rest I do not regret having chosen the R10 Saludos desde Chile

[@southwestshooters]

Excellent choice! Either gun would be great, but you did pick a monster. Take care.

[@lukeatkinson30]

Good review and try jsb heavy and hn ftt in the r10 you might be amazed at that 40meter range

[@heithwatkins]

Or H&N

[@johnlavin-ford8372]

Love the rm8

[@airwolf8915]

Do you have a link for the farm you mentioned.

[@tinabates542]

I got the gamo coyote it is very accurate and cheap

[@mrv8788]

My criticism of that is that the table you were resting your garden I’ve noticed it quite a few times moves it wasn’t stable enough it wasn’t solid enough and I think that’s why you were getting the groupings that you were getting that’s my opinion LOL

[@southwestshooters]

Agreed with you. New videos have a better table.

[@abdulhamjadp.v1318]

I think you need to secure your target first and change the backstop.

[@southwestshooters]

Okay - we will do that.

[@ianmcnulty3279]

Shouldn't need to be told the basics if they are doing these tests, they normally have a gun rest on a very wobbly table, brilliant

[@southwestshooters]

@@ianmcnulty3279 thank you!

[@abdulhamjadp.v1318]

@@southwestshooters thanks

[@nigelbase1196]

@@ianmcnulty3279 the bloke is a complete amateur 😉

[@acestu]

anyone tell me what a flyer is ?

[@lensman5762]

I would check the crown and the silencer alignment on that R10. Something not right there.

[@NickBritton]

I have ordered the RM8 in 1.77 what pellets do you recommend for 60 to 80 yards ?

[@silverstreetmoto1458]

Exact diabolo 8.44 gn and 4.52 head size work extremely well in my RM8.

[@lesleyhoworth9598]

My ultra in 177 does not like jsb magazine fouls one in 15 shots Change to h&n ftt amazing transformation, well done Chris. I actually think until you find the right pellet for a particular gun these tests are not fair on the gun and more to the point not fair on the person who is after buying a particular gun

[@southwestshooters]

Les, you again raise some very important points. The pellets you mention are coming up in conversation a lot - and I will be ordering some soon. Thank you for your continued support. I always like it when you leave a message. Take care!

[@andyfry745]

Les great point.I bought an ultra of Chris which I cherish.it’s a 22 and as I’ve told Chris loves H&n field target trophy👍

[@prouty2112]

Fab thank you so much for the test ive bought the bsa r10 th

[@hen-wo5vw]

for Walther Rotex RM8 only jsb heavy is perfect try it and you will see

[@colinlofthouse373]

Hi chris you called the weather a raine but its a rotex rm8 colin

[@southwestshooters]

My bad.

[@andybrown8293]

Don’t use jsb pellets in testing as they are not the best for quality control. I test with mainly Bisley/H&N these days(namely LRG, baracuda ft/8, FTT).

[@atyzelalmeida1620]

Nice video mate. M owning both the r10 and the rm8 and agree with you👍. But the r10 and the bucaneer which I have is still moi favorite guns of all time.

[@southwestshooters]

Thanks! You have excellent taste. Please consider subscribing to the channel if you liked the video!

[@johnwntn1]

Try using target's with a bullseye no bigger than the size of the pellet. A few clicks on the windage of your scope will stop the bullseye being destroyed. Take a look at pellet sample packs on eBay if you want more options when testing. Take your time shooting. Considering getting a bubble level to make sure you are not canting the rifle. 👍

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you John. This is a fantastic suggestion and I will be doing this in the future!

[@findingneutral426]

R10 is a fab little rifle

[@markhomer7628]

Exactly the same as my R10 , except mine dislikes ALL JSBs , Biz Mags in mine .. it's the only ones it likes ... the .22 on the other hand is happy with any quality pellet .. strange , but true .. subbed

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you Mark! We will be at 1000 subs soon. We'll, not soon, but hopefully by the end of the year. Take care.

[@skaleckis]

Sorry but such tests should be provided after sorting of pellets per grains and pellet diameter resizing (special tools needed_) , next in no-wind weather or closed range... despite of best producers like jsb/qys/h&n ...

[@totenvt]

walther rm8 .177 using qys 9.56 heavies ..... 100 shots at 30 metres fall within a 3mm circle of aim point repeatedly

[@mrvoorhees2627]

I know the BSA r10 is regulated as I have one in 22 but is the rm8? I know it's a lot cheaper 👍

[@southwestshooters]

Yes. The RM8 is regulated.

[@mrvoorhees2627]

@@southwestshooters it is cheap then I must admit I'm not a fan of the plastic trigger but apart from that seems a good rifle. Good review mate just subbed 👍

[@southwestshooters]

@@mrvoorhees2627 thank you!

[@davymac9866]

Nice video, just bought the TH. Subbed 🤘

[@southwestshooters]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@markpoole5854]

Usually light pellets for springer's and heavier for PCP with exceptions of coarse! If you suddenly get a shotgun patern always check the suppressor is tight and the internals are tight as most are can be stripped so check both end caps and remove the silencer and check with a torch for lead marks on the inside edge of the exit end, You did not mention head sizes, unfortunately for our wallets this is a pain but so worth it buy a couple of mixed test sets, Generally Weihrauch 4.51 or 5.51 in .22. Air Arms 4,.2 or 5.52 in ,22. FX toss a coin! BSA variable from model to model and I will stop there as your probably bored by now, call me a know it all but I am 60 and been shooting for at least 50 years including firearms the silencer problem happened to my Father in laws .22 rim fire and he was pulling his hair out, when I wandered in and showed him the lead marks he was delighted it was fixed but I think he hates me! I don't know which part of the country you live in but would love to meet up for a shoot.

[@leftymadrid]

I've used the Express 7.87gr & the Heavies 10.34gr in my S200AA & the HW-97K, been using them as my standard amo for the longest time! Yes, it is incredible how important it is to find the right pellet for your airguns! That R-10 BSA is beautiful AND with the right amo, I'm sure it would be a pellet on pellet rifle for sure. Nice video thx! :-)

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video!

[@southwestshooters]

Also.... I have now got some heavy pellets. They will feature in my next video.

[@jr9455]

why do not write the distance down in the target?

[@southwestshooters]

Apologies. We are still refining our content. Please see the latest video for a more sophisticated video.

[@sangthanga.Ngente]

R8 How much

[@arsenalfootballuk]

Great vid! Is the R10 the super carbine? Subbed 👍

[@southwestshooters]

I believe it is! Thank you for the subscription - we have lots more videos coming soon. So hopefully you will enjoy the future content! Take care!

[@arsenalfootballuk]

@@southwestshooters great video keep them coming!

[@southwestshooters]

@@arsenalfootballuk Just uploaded one...Hopefully you will enjoy it!

[@arsenalfootballuk]

@@southwestshooters I’ll give it a look 👀

[@leftymadrid]

Shame you didn't do the 10.34's!!

[@cockneykevan1]

What calibre are both rifles and are they Sub 12.ft/lbs

[@southwestshooters]

177. Sub 12.

[@cockneykevan1]

@@southwestshooters great thx for the info, any chance you could do a review of FAC R10 etc as looking to purchase either.22/.177

[@southwestshooters]

@@cockneykevan1 I am sorry, I won't be able to as I don't have a ticket for FAC! I can only speculate that one of these in FAC would be awesome, but I don't think I will be able to review one.

[@southwestshooters]

Please consider subscribing to the channel for more air rifle videos.

[@marismatrozis7717]

Try to clean rotex it will eliminate inaccuraci

[@josephzote379]

sir test with px100

[@janivarsrvaag5137]

it was a good video the air gun s stock was cool and it was a good group beatiful air gun tums upp

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you for taking the time to comment!

[@evronaldo.9220]

Do more reviews comparison with pellets

[@PaulMoorhousehankooks]

Rm8 was under a lot of movement and re positioning so not a fair. Trial

[@jamesbowskill362]

To cut a very long story short.................simply buy an FX Maverick .25 tuned at 65fpe & 33grn ZAN slugs.............everything you could want from an airgun.

[@southwestshooters]

I am so pleased you have a gun that works so well for you! Not my thing, but totally understand that you dig it.

[@nigelmonaireo5024]

Is the rm8 in your experience any good for hunting

[@southwestshooters]

Hello Nigel, I don't hunt. But I'd imagine it would be perfect! Super accurate and robust.... Perfect in several ways.

[@daleweller5193]

You definitely need a sturdier rest!

[@southwestshooters]

Working on it!

[@Bzz22]

Don’t see the point in comparing 2 guns where one is twice the price ?? & I don’t care what u think ??

[@southwestshooters]

I think you are being slightly ignorant here John. Firstly, someone might enjoy knowing that despite the price difference, the RM8 still holds it's own against the R10. This might be valuable for some people to know. Secondly, not caring what I think is something you are totally able to do. Either way, you are the one who took the time to tell me how you don't care, so I guess, realistically, you must care - because you took the time to comment. Still, thanks for continuing to feed what has been, by some margin, my most popular video ever.

[@markpoole5854]

trying not to seem like an ass you should definitely tries the JSB 10.34

[@jeffbell4341]

Both eyes open

[@southwestshooters]

Not always my style. But I do sometimes.

[@lesleybarclay3085]

Loose the tripod and get a decent one, bench rest shooters wouldn’t give those plastic things houseroom!.

[@southwestshooters]

I understand. But its just a start. I will look into it.

[@garryjackson9161]

I love my R10 with a vector veyron scope it’s accurate and looks beautiful I’m sure the rm 8 is also accurate but my god it’s ugly 😖

[@greylag8630]

Great review! Thanks for doing some pellet testing. It makes such a difference! R10's are great, especially the Super Carbine you've got. I'd go for the black soft-touch version, just so you can be a little more carefree when in the field - wouldn't want to damage that lovely Minelli Walnut. Maybe you could get your hands on an HW110K as another slight upgrade from the Prof's RM8? Really enjoy your work! Shoot well and stay safe. Grey

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you sir. I will see if I can get a HW110 or HW100 to do a comparison. I think that would be a wonderful idea! Thank you for your kind words. I have been struggling to find motivation to keep making videos, but nice comments inspire me to continue! Take care.

[@greylag8630]

@@southwestshooters I enjoy the vids! Looks like you and the prof have a good deal of fun. I’m in the process of try to tempt another young dad in my village towards buying an air rifle - I’d love a shooting buddy. Hunting on your own is great but a plinking buddy would be just as welcomed. 👍

[@ianmcnulty3279]

The prat forgets to lock the catch for the mag and then wonders why the group is not very good. der.

[@spacial-active-machines]

never never the RM8 is so bad ! i think here is a battle england vs germany and england must win...

[@kennethpettersson7807]

Bad result from a £ 1100 rifle! A £450 GAMO Coyote does better!

[@garyhill9516]

Hard to trust your shooting ability.

[@southwestshooters]

Why is that?

[@acestu]

Your sheds fell over

[@christiannelson730]

Stick to British. Your money will put British families in work. And you get value for money.

[@evronaldo.9220]

Hello sir I'm a big2 fan of you from North East India Mizoram state Christian religion city but small city 😁 if you ever feel like giving out or any giveaway program for viewers and subscribers like me please remember me a thousand times I beg you sir out here I am poor can't afford to buy.😭🙏

[@kenmorrison1725]

Love your reviews but have to give you an 🙄 for your " this is my thumb " drives me nuts when people do that. Please have a 5p with you, that is something I have and is a standard size. Thumbs on the other hand😂😂😂😂😂 keep up the good work

[@southwestshooters]

Ken. Thank you for the kind words. I totally agree, and will be using a standard in the future. Please consider subscribing if you enjoyed the video!

[@kenmorrison1725]

@@southwestshooters I subbed a few days ago, now just working my way through the content I might have missed👍👍👍👍

[@southwestshooters]

@@kenmorrison1725 thank you for your support. There is more to come..... Take care!

[@tonyblack3401]

The R10. No need for the video.