Van Build RECIRCULATING SHOWER | Install in Our Sprinter Van Conversion: PART 1

[@kimwilliams5165]

You both made the right decision with the light filter. Legionnaires disease is most often gotten from the vapor of bath/shower water due to not being heated enough to kill bacteria by a tank being set to low. The cold water in house never sets in a tank so is safe mostly. Thanks for showing your work, it's more helpful than generic schematic.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thank you! The light filter was a must! We definitely wanted to make sure we are killing off any bacteria or viruses in the water! Thanks so much for watching, we appreciate it!

[@loismays4620]

AHA !!! thank you thank you! I'm just now getting ready to install my shower and I have a new goal! so glad I found this before I got going the wrong way!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Good luck! Hope your build goes well! Thank you for watching and Stay Wanderful!!!

[@marklambert2712]

awesome video!! I am thinking about putting a flip switch in mine, so I can pull from the FW tank if I want to for whatever reason, ie, if the water started to smell or get soapy. I look forward to watching more of your videos!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks Mark! Appreciate the kind comments!!! A flip switch can easily be added, we are amazed on how simple or complex you can make this… you’re only limited by space and imagination!

[@Poppy_love59]

I have been a ford 350 Econoline camper for the last 30 years. I suggest you start over and not mount any water devices outside of the van. first off it makes damage to it far more likely. Secondly dirt and oil will accumulate on it and in some cases in it. thirdly it will limit your ability travel in cold weather as it will freeze. Even when the temperatures are in the 40*f -50*f range as the wind chill will be a consideration. All things considered having it all mounted inside the vehicle will be so much better in terms of use. I have my van set up to use external sources of waters for Showers like Lakes rivers or even small streams. I do also have a reservoir of 5 gallons in a regular blue water storage tank. For use when no water is available nearby, but those filters will clog really fast when you are using soaps of pretty much any kind. Because they all contain oils. So if you're going to use a reservoir system, be prepared to replace your filters about once a week. Lastly including some form of a bacteria filter will allow you to cleanse the water to the level you can use for drinking purposes.

[@PresidentBust]

This was a really useful video to me. Thanks alot for the time you took to make it. Subbed

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thank you! That means a lot to us!!! Hoping your project goes well!

[@RockyMtnGobblers]

The best install video I have seen, I'm not doing the recirculating shower because I want to use soap, but I am saving your video so if I change my mind I can do it with your help. I did see your other video where the two filters are switched. I'll be installing my water system inside as to not damage it.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Absolutely agree with putting the system inside… takes up a bit of room but with some careful planning it absolutely can be done! Thank you for watching!

[@davidramossalsologoporexse2469]

I think is a super good idea 💡 Because showers are very important in van life.

[@stevekight1955]

FYI: Cartridge filters can be mounted horizontally if necessary.

[@fbr65]

Another great, useful video!! Thanks for documenting your build so well!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks so much! We really appreciate you watching! ❤️

[@functionalvanconversion4284]

Awesome set up! Thanks for sharing!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks so much for checking out the video! Hope you found it helpful!

[@j6sj7]

"If you've been watching our van build, we LOVE complicated stuff so here we go!" I was thinking just that... "Oh boy, here they go again!" I like the concept of the recirculating shower. Truth be told, with all that filtering it's probably cleaner than some city water out there. WR motto of this episode: "When in doubt, bracket." -Burt in NJ

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We probably have over engineered the van and put way too many screws and brackets!!!! She’s holding together good so far!!! Knock on brackets!!!

[@hotmalm]

The System is a good idea, but I guess no long warm showers when it cold outside😞

[@WanderfulRevolution]

This is the downside of our setup… when we get below freezing we just drain the system and seek showers elsewhere… if we had room we would have put it inside then no worries! Thank you for watching!

[@DingleFlop]

That tank held by strapping is very sus IMO. I'd be worried about eventual rub-through... Some sort of sacrificial rubber/plastic/textile padding..?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

This comment made me crawl under the van and check! So far so good... The padding is a good idea and would be easy to add. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!

[@pascalvesseur1439]

i would put the 50 micron filter before the pump to keep the pump and the accumulator cleaner and flip the pump upside-down so you don't get air pockets as you drain it

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks for watching and thanks for the tips. We’ve seen setups with the 50 micron before and after the pump, but your point of view definitely makes sense. We are strongly considering following your suggestion but the experimenters in us want to see how the system performs as is. Maybe we will do that and perform a comparison.

[@billgreen1515]

The filter before the pump will protect the pump and it needs to be there, but it will clog up pretty easily. I would suggest you run the plumbing so that the first filter is inside of the shower. So you can clean it right there.

[@la1vidamia]

Fantastic video. thank you! I too, follow Snow and Curt..until them; I'd not head of a recirculating shower. Mind-blowing!!! I'm in the process of building out my skoolie and I AM SO VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU BOTH for helping me understand how to get this on my bus:)

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thank you so much!!! That means a lot to us!!! We really hopes it helps! Good luck on your build and thank you for watching! Stay Wanderful!

[@la1vidamia]

@@WanderfulRevolution Subscribed! Yeahh, hello from Canada..🇨🇦🙋👍as I mentioned, building out my skoolie for my Dream of Driving to Ushuaia Argentina!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

@@la1vidamia we’ve been trying to get to Canada and the PanAmerican to Argentina!!! Hoping it works out!

[@SolomonHomestead]

Found you from how to channel. Love the van build channels. We are probably one of the most unfocused unique channels on KZbin. Wait we are focused but it changes often. Dogs, RV travel, Motorcycles, beach cleanups and DIY homestead remodel. If you like any of this we have a video or two. Watched, liked and subscribed.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks so much!!! Appreciate it! It’s ok to be a little unfocused...we say that because we happen to be that way ourselves! Haha! Subbed you too!

[@lopezinit2998]

That pump will be fine outside I have one on my wash rig for washing houses and transferring chemicals on an open trailer and it’s in direct weather for 2 years now. But they are designed for boating so I’m sure you will be fine.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Very good to hear that! Thanks for the info! We were hoping it would be ok under there. We figure it will be fairly well protected in its location, but always good to hear from people who are using it outdoors with no problems! Thanks so much!

[@Chris-ut6eq]

Oh, if/when you have the great filter update, any comments on how your indoor/outdoor pump is doing? loved the comment "....and I'm old!"

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Haha thanks! The pump is doing fine! No problems at all with it. It’s seems very well protected where we placed it. The great filters are still being debated!

[@thewildearthlings]

We have been working on our recirculating shower system and yall make it look EASY

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Haha thanks!! Definitely anything but easy! And we just realized that we were shipped the wrong UV filter! Ughhhh! Always something! So now finishing the install is going to be delayed! Good luck with your install!, hopefully it comes together well!

[@AdmiralPreparedness]

I built my DIY endless shower with the filtration before the holding tank so clean water is always present at the pump, water heater, pressure gauge and spin down filter. The holding tank can be easily cleaned when necessary. This way, the system stays cleaner. Since it has such good filtration ability, mine seconds as a drinkable water supply after a filter replacement and tank bypass valve installed. I added an inline differential purity tester to ensure I know when to replace the filters. So, if I ever find myself needing drinkable water and a water source is available, I can make it safe to drink without boiling it. Having a good supply of various filter elements is a must for my situation. I am saving for a UV device at this time to eliminate the bio filter elements. HAPPY TRAILS!!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Wow sounds like your system is really flexible! Thanks for sharing! In a pinch that would come in handy. Thank you for watching!

[@underminedsk]

Hey guys, thanks for this awesome video! After 15 months, I'd love to see a video or blog post about how your recirculating shower is holding up, if you'd change anything about it, and what tweaks / modifications you had to make to get it to work well on a day to day basis. Thanks!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We do have a part two up! Planning on a third hopefully soon! Thank you for watching!

[@jimmckellar2696]

What a great system THANKS! Can you tell me how you controlled the heat from the heat exchanger to the shower head. Wouldn't the water be too hot to use directly from the heat exchanger?

[@jmsnystrom]

How do you remove the soap particles from the filter? How often do you change filters?

[@tampahiker5334]

Awesome setup, where are you located?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thank you! We live full time and go everywhere!!! Thank you for watching!!!

[@vincebrandt8137]

Great idea 1 question how will you keep them from freezing

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We plan to try and stay away from cold weather as much as possible. If we do need to be in cold weather, we plan to drain the system and not use it.

[@jeffsteinmetz7188]

Thanks for the detailed video. It really helps.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

So glad it helped!!!! Thanks so much for watching!!!

[@melaniecollins4045]

Hey there, Trying to figure out the housing of the filtration system. Do these big blue housings handle water well and pressure uis good? I see some of the others state because their housing is bigger the water flows better. The one I was looking at goes down to .5 microns so not sure if that is why they use bigger housings.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We haven’t had any issues with pressure or water flow… so far they seem to be holding up well… we went with the smaller housing just due to space considerations… thank you for watching!

[@GirdHerd]

I really like the concept. I'm assuming you do not mix the filtered recycle water with fresh drinking water so how do you fill the recycle tank initially and how do you drain the recycle tank at the end of a trip?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Yes exactly!!!! Or at least change every week… thank you for watching!

[@jeffsteinmetz7188]

Thank you for the detail! What is your plan for winterizing that system under the van?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

For the most part we plan to stay above freezing temps. If we need to be somewhere cold, we just plan to drain the system, remove the filters and use wet wipes and the sink to clean up until we are back in warmer temps. we had considered placing a solenoid valve to circulate warm water through the system, so that may be an option.

[@CLBigler]

How do the filters underneath function in freezing temperatures?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We drained and purged the system in freezing temps due to the external parts

[@carlosvaquerofoto]

Hi guys, awesome video. I've been researching a lot for the recirculating shower and you guys make it look easier and simpler than anyone!! Thanks!! May I ask you about hot water?? How are you guys managing that? I show you have a video on hydronic system (haven't had time to watch it yet) so I guess the hot water comes from there, but... How it mixed with the recirculating shower?? Maybe my question is too silly, but I hope you can help me ;) Thanks a lot!!!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Hey there! Thanks so much for watching. We are getting our hot water from our hydronic system. We have 2 heat exchangers. One of them is solely for our recirculating shower and the other one is for our fresh water. We didn’t want any chance of the shower water mixing with drinking and cooking water so they are 2 separate loops.

[@jimmckellar2696]

What a great system THANKS! Can you tell me how you controlled the heat from the heat exchanger to the shower head. Wouldn't the water be too hot to use directly from the heat exchanger?

[@garynevitt5146]

What are you using for reheating the water?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Espar D5E and a heat exchanger

[@leblancexplores]

Thanks for sharing!! Can I buy you a rivet gun for making brackets? Seems like it’d be much faster and more compact than bolts and nuts. I bet you’ll be fine with that indoor pump.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks for watching! This is definitely all a learning experience and we most definitely have not always done things the easy way haha! We’ve probably done it a harder way 85% of the time 😂 We appreciate the offer for the rivet gun! That is very kind of you!!! But hopefully there aren’t any more brackets in our near future haha! The van is about 90% done!! We are just finishing up the cabinets and then it’ll be time to hit the road!

[@dawghouseadventures4270]

So, now that you’ve had the Viqua for some time now, do you think it’s worth the money? Does it alarm frequently from the quality of the recirculating water?

[@jamieism]

Do you have a second inlet on the side of your van for this or are you filling it another way?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We can fill through the shower itself or we can hook a hose to the outlet of the tank and fill through it

[@svongsa]

Can the filters be mounted horizontally? How often do the filters have to be replaced?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

The instructions say the big blue filters can be mounted in any position. Although for where we put them, it would be messy to clean and replace them in the horizontal position.

[@svongsa]

@@WanderfulRevolution you’re right it would be messy in the horizontal position. I just though the filters would be hidden in that position. Thanks!!

[@trevortirrell]

Awesome video. I'm working on mine this week!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Awesome! Are you mounting the components inside or outside? We feel like this whole thing is a big experiment haha! Hopefully it works well!

[@trevortirrell]

@@WanderfulRevolution Everything will be under the van. We went with 25 gallons for the kitchen and 15 for the shower. Both tanks are insulated and have a heat pad. Everyday is something new!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Awesome! HAHA! Yes everyday is an adventure building a van! We debated insulating or using a solenoid valve to circulate hot water through the system. we don't plan to be in super cold weather, so not sure if it'll be worth it just in case.

[@trevortirrell]

@@WanderfulRevolution I'm doing both just in case. Solenoid line will run from heated tank through the filters and back to tank fill line. So it won't come from my heat exchanger hot water. I was afraid that would get too hot.

[@isaackeyet2938]

Great video! Keep it up! The recirculating shower thing is really happening now, every video like this makes it seem more and more doable. I'm wondering why you chose to mount all the filters under the van given that you have to inspect them and change them relatively often - do you have any regrets around that yet? The pump and accumulator I get for noise, seems really clever to have it outside the van or at least in an enclosed box somewhere to reduce vibrations and noise, filters less so IMO. Also, I'm a novice at this, but is one of the filters a coal filter? I thought that step was important for smells etc... Also also, why is the spindown filter and the sediment filters after the pump? I'm not sure what makes the most sense but I would think it's best to have as clean water as possible run through the pump no?

[@gavingrantham136]

I would have agreed on the fact that the spin-down filter should have been before the pump - but it looks as if they have a smaller filter just before - the other thing is that if they use something like a sponge type trap at the exit of the shower drain before entering the tank, this would collect all the bigger particles, then the spin-down filter will be in the correct spot, as it would help to catch most of the so called bigger micro bit before entering the 20/10/5 micron filters as they are pretty expensive to be replacing every 4-8 weeks. It's easier to remove & clean say once a week. The UV light / filter helps break down the smell and bacteria as the last stage of the filtration system, but they could implement a 20 micron char-coal filter before the 10&5 filters as this would also help. A teaspoon or two of bleach in the water tank at the end of the shower period would be more cost effective way, than the char-coal filter.

[@joaare3795]

Interesting arrangement. I think you have to move the first filter between the tank and the pump, it is this filter that gets the most particles in the water to be removed and I doubt if the pump is so fond of those particles. Another question must be, will you never experience temperatures below freezing where you will use the van?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Thanks for watching! We had considered putting the spin down before the pump but the schematic we were following had it after. We are going to closely monitor it. We may end up rerunning the tubing to put the spin down first. Definitely something to consider. Thanks for the suggestion. For the most part we plan to chase moderate temps. We may experience freezing from time to time. We plan to drain/winterize the system in those situations and just use our sink for “bird baths.” We would have loved to put everything inside but just couldn’t make that work with the real estate we have available.

[@joaare3795]

@@WanderfulRevolution I look forward to updates when the system is up and running. I have chosen to have only a greywater tank under the car. It will be heated via a glycol circuit which is quite similar to the system you have installed but I have not installed recirculation for the shower water.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We saw that snow and curt did that to keep their stuff from freezing. Not sure if we will do it or not. I imagine it would not be to incredibly hard to add in. Might have to look into that a little more.

[@juliah3069]

Great idea... just curious about heating the water?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We recently installed an espar hydronic heater. It will provide us with heat for the van, as well as endless hot water. Just takes about 5 minutes for the system to heat up! We have some videos on the install of the heater as well!

[@joehoffman7019]

My question was, will you be traveling into cold areas, below freezing? If you are, do you think this will freeze on the outside?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We don’t plan to travel into extreme cold weather for the most part. We plan to stay above freezing as much as possible. It would definitely freeze it those temps. When we do find ourselves in cold situations, we will most likely purge and/or winterize if necessary. In that situation we would just have to use our sink for “baths.” For our travels plans we think it will work pretty well though.

[@juliah3069]

okay.. but the re-circulated water? does it go back through the water heater?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

@@juliah3069 yes. It’s a closed loop system. The shower water leaves the shower and goes into the tank. The water is then pumped out of the tank and through the series of filters and then back to the shower. It continuously recirculates through. We will change the water (5 gallon) in the tank about once a week.

[@leblancexplores]

I’m researching parts for my build. There’s three spin down filter types, basic, with scraper, and auto scraper. Looks like you link the basic but use the scraping one in the video. Any thoughts on how helpful the scraper and auto scraper versions would be now that you both have had a chance to use it?

[@leblancexplores]

Yeesh need to watch this video again, looks like you ultimately went with the non scraper version in the end.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We did go with the nonscraper one. We had Some issues mounting the scraper one. It honestly would be nice to have it would make it a little easier to clean that filter out.

[@keargee]

Did I miss how you heat the water?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

The glycol is heated by the Espar heater then pumped into the heat exchanger. Cold water heated in heat exchanger and voila! Thank you for watching!

[@holyscience3763]

do you think it's possible to have recirculating sink system? or are the particles from washing dishes might make it trickier?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We would not suggest a recirculating sink. Especially if you plan to use water from your sink for cooking and drinking. Our shower is a total separate circuit and that water never touches our water for eating and drinking.

[@buildingourdaydream9804]

Great ideas! How do you remove the soap from the water since being dissolved will allow it to pass through your filter system?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

This is actually something we are working on. Right now We can each take 1 shower on 5 gallons before we notice the suds. Looking at low suds soaps and we have read that epsom salt can bind with the soap enabling it to be filtered. We are going to be trying that out this week.

[@leblancexplores]

Was the accumulator necessary? I’ve watched videos that show it’s not necessary with the seaflo pump in particular due to how it internally is designed. Thoughts?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

You don’t absolutely need it. I guess the goal is to keep the water pressure more consistent and to help the pump out so it doesn’t have to work so hard cycling on and off.

[@gogarrickboyd]

I used the same pump in my last build. I had to add the accumulator tank because the surging action was not cool.

[@Justin-General]

How many months can you recirculate the water before it's desirable empty and refill with fresh water?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

No where near a month. We empty and refill about once a week.

[@Justin-General]

@@WanderfulRevolution so almost daily showers? And that's a 5 gallon tank recirculating? You can get 5 gallons from the watermill for a buck.. so a dollar a week to run long showers off grid, that's not bad! I want this!

[@compeng2013]

Beautiful! Do you have schematics for this water system?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We don not have a schematic unfortunately. We based our setup off of what Snow and Curt did on their channel. The basic order is: 1. water enters the tank from the shower 2. Pump prefilter 3. Pump 4. Accumulator 5. Spin down filter 6. 20 micron filter 7. 10 micron filter 8. 5 micron filter 9. UV filter 10. Water Heater 11. Shower We have received a couple comments that suggest putting the spin down filter before the pump to get the big stuff out before it hits the pump.we are considering this but have seen both setups

[@fbr65]

@@WanderfulRevolution I’m so glad to hear you are basing this on Snow & Curt’s shower. We are basing our entire build on their van

[@justinw2141]

Is it OK on the pump to run dirty water through it? Could you put the pump on the filtered side?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

The short answer is we have no idea! We thought about putting the spin down filter in front of the pump to take the big stuff out before the water goes through the pump. We’ve seen others install it in the order we are installing it and we haven’t heard whether they have had any problems with it. We do have the prefilter on the pump itself. We read that the pump should be after the tank. It’s definitely going to be an experiment for us. We plan to do an update video after a few months of using it, to share the ups and downs of how we put it together.

[@billgreen1515]

If you haven't yet, yes you should have the split down before the pump. To protect it.

[@371tattoostudio6]

Hey Guys, quick Suggestion! Why not filter the shower water and store it fresh in the container, Instead of storing it after showers. Basically .. use the same system but in reverse. I'm only saying this because ... The shower water contains a lot of dead skin and micro bacteria that can easily pass the micron filter when is decomposed if the shower water is stored clean-er :D all of them risky factors can be erased.

[@WanderfulRevolution]

The issue with that is that we feel we would need 2 pumps to get the water through the system. We would definitely prefer to store clean water which is why we continue to filter for about 10 minutes after a shower. We are continuing to work in making a better system

[@gogarrickboyd]

@@WanderfulRevolution Why would you need two pumps? I would think that running unfiltered water through the pump would invite failure.

[@nguyentuan1990]

does this mean that you have your shower water system separated from the sink water? 2 separate water heaters...

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Yes, our sink water is separate from the shower water. We have 1 hydronic heater, but have 2 heat exchangers in our system.

[@joehoffman7019]

Ok, I've waited for a long enough time since you posted this video, seriously just waiting to ask this question. How well does it work? Can you put it in a video? I will have a recirculating shower in my van and you've made it look easy, along with your rack and deck. I need to know if you had any tweaks or thoughts on this?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We’ve been in the road for about 2 months and we have definitely been working through some problems with the system (we expected we would). Still trying to fine tune everything! We will definitely be posting a video about it! Probably in the next few weeks or so. In the meantime if you have specific questions, feel free to head over to our website and send us a message! We are happy to help out! wanderfulrevolution.com

[@timothypowell5446]

I was told that these don’t work well because the soap ruins the filters very quickly?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

We have heard they work well and we have heard soap is an issue. We haven’t used our extensively yet because we are still finishing up the build. We definitely plan to film an update video with all the ins and outs, good and bad of the system once we have used it for a few months.

[@billgreen1515]

Add some Epsom salts to the water. It will bond with the soap and a lot of the soap will get caught in the filters

[@inchvans8296]

@timothy Powell, you’re right. There’s absolutely nothing those filters will do to remove soap. As a matter of fact, the soap will remove the ability to filter much of anything from the water, and will reduce the flow rate of anything it touches. Nobody talks about this. These “showers” are recirculating rinsers. You can filter and sterilize plain water over end over again but the second you put soap in there it’s done. You can rinse for a few days and then you can soap up once and purge your water directly. The first time soap gets into the tank, or the filters, you’re replacing those filters or they’re completely useless. Especially the carbon filters.

[@Toro-Tor]

How about an update video on this? As with so many other systems of similar build, you will have a few problems with this system, especially on the filtration side: When not in use, that sif-water stands inside the filters and pipes and will become smelly quickly (living bacteria). With all tose bends in the pies it is impossible to empty it. - You dont ever wana shower in that later on. Also, the pump you are using is "diaphragm-pump", It´s got 4 or 5 tiny reed-vales and something like a hair will disable this pump. The accumulator is not necessary and the UV-zapper will slow down the water-flow extremely. What about cold weather? if water freezes in that system it will break your tank, pump, accumulator, pipes, filters ... I hanvn´t watched the rest of the videos, but most importantly, I hope you DO NOT RUN RECYCLED WATER THROUGH THE SAME HEATER as the hot water you use in the kitchen. YOU WILL GET SICK - GUARANTEED. Solve all these problems - with a home-build vertical filter, with a drain pipe downwards - back-rinse that filter with fresh water after the shower. - air-vent that filter when not in use - filter before pump, heat after pump - use completely isolated water system for shower-recycling (seperate pipes & heater of the rest) - get rid of expensive water-heater and use 12V induction. (google "ZVS-Heater", and build your own heater-spiral)

[@iselacowen5441]

Do you Have A home To eventually give up Van life

[@WanderfulRevolution]

No… not yet… vanlife is only a stepping stone for us!

[@iselacowen5441]

@@WanderfulRevolution You are Such A beautiful happy couple and so NICE.ENJOY how you are traveling with The Bethunes.

[@TruCrimeQueen]

Where is your kitty?

[@WanderfulRevolution]

She was in the bedroom sleeping most of the build… thank you for watching!

[@cfotograf]

A kind of gross!!! 😟 But I look forward seeing your recycled poop system so you don’t need to go out to buy food. Yes, we have the technology to recycle poop!!!

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Not really so gross! I’ve drank water filtered from Rivers and streams, so bathing in highly filtered water doesn’t really seem so gross to me. And yes they do have technology to recycle poop. It’s called composting. We do that too. If fact, much of your food is probably grown with composted manure. Enjoy!

[@3dmixer552]

Have you ever had a bath? You can sit in the water as long as you want and will not circulate the water. Why can you the same with the shower? I meant it seems like waste of money to me

[@WanderfulRevolution]

Yes I have had a bath, but I’ve never used that same bath water for a week and my baths have always used more than 5-7 gallons of water. The idea is to conserve and water and be able to stay out longer with refills. It costs a little more than a traditional shower but it works for us.